WEBVTT - Preseason Power Rankings 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to NFL Daily, where the twelves can send their

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<v Speaker 1>complaints to Nick Shook, the author of the Power Rankings.

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<v Speaker 2>Not me, I'm the host.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Greg Rosenthal, host of this show, NFL Daily. But

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shook is going to be one of the hosts

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<v Speaker 1>of the Power Rankings show, and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the NFL channel. That doesn't start till the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first Power Rankings are out with the author

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shook. He's taking over the franchise for the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six. A lot of responsibility there, And yes, Shook,

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<v Speaker 1>you came out swinging by putting the defending champs at

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<v Speaker 1>number three on your first Power rankings.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare you? Frank?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what, It's the inverse of what Uncle

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<v Speaker 3>Ben once told Peter Parker. Instead of with great power

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<v Speaker 3>comes great responsibilities, with great responsibility comes great power rankings.

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<v Speaker 3>Right in this first one right here, I'm taking swings.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to upset people, but I'm follow in

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<v Speaker 3>my heart, I'm laying the table, setting it for how

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<v Speaker 3>I think this might play out before we even get

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<v Speaker 3>done with preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, if you don't want to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of a Nick Shook swing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a powerful man.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy, at least for now to be across

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<v Speaker 1>the country from you and poke you on these power rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are already out on NFL dot com. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>check them out, but everyone who likes to digest these

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<v Speaker 1>things audibly or on video. Thank you for checking in

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, and you can also join us if you're listening.

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<v Speaker 2>On Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday evening, Nick and I will be joining you live

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<v Speaker 1>at seven pm Pacific, ten pm Eastern to go over

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<v Speaker 1>all the preseason Week one games and update you on

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<v Speaker 1>the news. This show is all about the rankings, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start with the top three because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the Seahawks discussion right away. The Rams

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<v Speaker 1>are number one, the Broncos are number two, the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>are number three. I'm starting at three because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that is extreme spicy to put a team that is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially bringing back almost everyone that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant was a good safety, and you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>lose Kenneth Walker, but this is a young, balanced team,

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<v Speaker 1>as deep a defense as we've ever seen, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best Super Bowl champions at least according to the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>It like DVOA and whatnot of the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten twenty years. I get putting the Rams over them,

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<v Speaker 1>but putting them at three is bold enough that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to explain yourself shuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's either that or I go chalk. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going chalk here because I actually have some seven

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<v Speaker 3>times Chock is right. Yeah, sometimes Chock is right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't. It wasn't just to be a contrarian either.

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<v Speaker 3>I have some semi legitimate concerns about how this backfield's

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<v Speaker 3>going to shake out. That's a lot of responsibility, responsibility

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<v Speaker 3>to put on Jerry and Price as a rookie right

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<v Speaker 3>out of the gate. You don't know when you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get Sharpenny back. You lost Walker in free agency. It

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<v Speaker 3>just feels like a thinner group than I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to see for this team. And otherwise, yeah, everything else

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty much pretty good for this group. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Darnald, can he continue to find the success he

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<v Speaker 3>did last year. Let's not forget that they did lose

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<v Speaker 3>their offensive coordinator do a head coaching job with the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders and Clint Kubiak. Let's not overlook that and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe Bryant left, boy A Mafe left, Rik wooland left,

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<v Speaker 3>so there were a few guys that you have to replace.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're not quite as deep as you were before.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand they're the rgning champs and they wear the

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<v Speaker 3>crown that they earned, and they definitely earned it, that

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<v Speaker 3>is unquestioned. But I do believe going to this season

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<v Speaker 3>that the Rams have something to say about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>the team in front of them, the Denver Broncos, also

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<v Speaker 3>have something to say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this brings up a philosophical question I'll hit you with.

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<v Speaker 1>First week, you're doing the power rankings. This season obviously

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't started. What's the difference between like predictions for the

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<v Speaker 1>season and like just ranking where they're at now, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know clearly you're high on the Broncos in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess the issue I had with it was

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<v Speaker 1>man on paper, it's hard for me to question much

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<v Speaker 1>about the Seahox, And you're right about the backfield Jendarian Price.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, he's been out of practice three or

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<v Speaker 1>four days. He's never carried a full workload. Suddenly you're

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<v Speaker 1>down to like George Hallani, you know, potentially starting there

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<v Speaker 1>are potentially holes in this team.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet have you been watching Hard Knocks shook? I

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<v Speaker 2>have not spent a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know why, because I've been spending some time in

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<v Speaker 3>this and some other things that'll be just described later,

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<v Speaker 3>explained later life things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And frankly, it's shook week on the podcast, it

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<v Speaker 1>shook year on the podcast and throughout NFL media. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've been very busy. Look, that show is making me

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<v Speaker 1>even more of a believer. Something about Mike McDonald, the

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<v Speaker 1>way this team is practicing as one, as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>they play, all those veterans. Just seeing DeMarcus Lawrence and

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy and Derek Hall and you know, Leonard Williams

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<v Speaker 1>altogether just gets me fired up. And I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think it's strengthly a little disrespectful, because I

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<v Speaker 1>really do believe that them in the Rams are are

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<v Speaker 1>far and away the best two teams going into this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's how last season ended, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it's a huge gap. And then it's opinion

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<v Speaker 1>after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, So what I'm hearing right now is that

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<v Speaker 3>you are taking the bit of propaganda bait that comes

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<v Speaker 3>before every season with a Hard Knocks team, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the defending champion.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't get to see that on Hard Knocks traditionally.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, I'm okay with that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you with Mike McDonald because I saw a clip.

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<v Speaker 3>On social media today this morning of him getting after

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Hall for getting too close to Sam Donald and

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<v Speaker 3>tossing him out, not completely out of practice, but getting him.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the field, and I was like, Oh, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an intensity that I like about the spin.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch that clip the spin on Sam Donald's passes. I

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate this show for making me enjoy the Donald experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are looking rose colored glasses, you think, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he takes some of that confidence and free wiggling play

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<v Speaker 1>and he establishes a better baseline. But it's totally fair

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<v Speaker 1>the controvert thing. And I don't think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get go too long about the rams at one. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a loaded roster. Also, are you just anticipating Donald

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<v Speaker 1>is on the roster when putting in one?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they? Did he even need to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>roster to put in one? It was just all part

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<v Speaker 2>of the expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>I included it in the little blurb underneath, And did

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<v Speaker 3>he need to be on the roster. No, because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that they need like Aaron Donald of what

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<v Speaker 3>we knew before. He can be rotational slash guy who

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<v Speaker 3>is thirty five years old and comes in and makes

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<v Speaker 3>a few big splash plays and it still makes them better.

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<v Speaker 3>But I fully anticipate that he's gonna be on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Roster make the case for the Broncos at two. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I start to struggle, and it'll it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to a larger point I have about the power rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very difficult before the season, like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>tough division. They're going to have to go win in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you had him three, I wouldn't have blinked, deny,

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<v Speaker 1>But what is your reasoning and your belief that they

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<v Speaker 1>are at this level kind of the inner circle Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl contenders?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the thing with power rankings is it always

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<v Speaker 3>involves a little bit of projection, And so I'm projecting

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<v Speaker 3>a few things that we did not see happen last year,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that one bo Nicks is healthy for the

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<v Speaker 3>absolute final game of the year. Because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>him the ANFC Championship game, they very well could have

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<v Speaker 3>been in the Super Bowl last year. He's back healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he picks up right where he left off.

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<v Speaker 3>They hit their stride offensively in the second half of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, which is a big reason why he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>climb higher in the QB Index for most of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>because they were just so lackluster until they really needed

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<v Speaker 3>it for a lot of the season. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that the offense and the way that he performed in

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<v Speaker 3>the back half in the playoffs is what I expect

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<v Speaker 3>them to be throughout this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the return of JK.

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<v Speaker 3>Dobbins, who promised to everybody in Denver that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to play a full season. I'll have to see it

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<v Speaker 3>before I believe it, but if he can actually play

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<v Speaker 3>a substantial portion of the season, that makes their running

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<v Speaker 3>back room a lot better than it looks on paper

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<v Speaker 3>right now. So that's two big reasons, because the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of this offense continuity is there. Oh and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>they went and got Jalen Waddle and added him to

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<v Speaker 3>the receiving corps, which makes this offense better as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's already one of the most complete defenses in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have any questions about them as long

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<v Speaker 3>as they can stay healthy. So on paper, they look

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the most complete teams in football, and

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<v Speaker 3>they just have to answer or fill in those little

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<v Speaker 3>gaps that were created last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why they end up at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think offensive line, defensive line, continuity and talent is

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<v Speaker 1>top and so they deserve to be this high. Four

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<v Speaker 1>through six. I'm going to group together because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of gave the Eagles at four, the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>at five, and the Ravens at six a totally understandable

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<v Speaker 1>bump of If I'm saying, like the best teams of

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<v Speaker 1>this decade, if I'm making a list, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>these are three of the four Eagles, Bills, Ravens, Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>are obviously number one on that list. We will get

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<v Speaker 1>to the forty nine ers in a little while, who

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<v Speaker 1>maybe would be there close in the top five. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of trusting the consistency and the expectations are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely high. And when it comes to the Bills and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens specifically, you're betting on quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>But what kind of separated.

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<v Speaker 1>These three teams for you from the rest of the pack,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I tell you, man, it's crazy. After these top three.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have shaken up four through fifteen. I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe you could have shaken up four through fifteen in

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<v Speaker 1>a different order, and you can make the case for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is it about these teams just to group

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<v Speaker 1>it in a certain way that got them this high.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny because I did not do this entire

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<v Speaker 3>thing in sequential order. I got done with the first three,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to four, five, and six, and I went,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm gonna start from the bottom, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went and took care of thirty two through twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight because I was I had such a hard time

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out exactly who I wanted at four or five, six,

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of knew I went in Jacksonville at seven, right,

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<v Speaker 3>which that's a preview of what's to come later in

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<v Speaker 3>the show, of course. But I was conflicted about the

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles at four, and I think the consistency that they've

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrated in this last decade is exactly why they ended

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<v Speaker 3>up this high. It's it's kind of a battle between Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>do I believe in the Bills. Yes, they went and

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<v Speaker 3>got DJ Moore, But I've had enough reason to think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, every year's high expectations, Are you actually going

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver? Do I believe in them enough to put

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<v Speaker 3>them at four? I don't think so. Even though they

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<v Speaker 3>have Josh Allen, they got James Cook, you add more

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<v Speaker 3>into that mix. I love their two tight ends. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>else right. And then I was like, do I believe

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<v Speaker 3>in the Eagles? And I thought, well, the vibes and

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<v Speaker 3>then I wrote this right around the start of training camp,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least started working on this around the start

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<v Speaker 3>of training camp. Throughout this last week, I thought, Man,

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<v Speaker 3>the vibes in Philly are unusually high. Like the energy

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<v Speaker 3>there is very, very positive, which usually isn't the case

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<v Speaker 3>with this team. And it seems like moving on from

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<v Speaker 3>aj Brown kind of put them in a new position

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<v Speaker 3>where they can you know, the skies have opened, the

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<v Speaker 3>cloud is gone, and everything's great here in Philly. I

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<v Speaker 3>am concerned about Jonathan Grenard and the extended absence that he,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, continues to be enduring, I guess, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think it does hurt some of their defensive potential. But

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<v Speaker 3>they still have Vic fangieb you know, coordinating that defense

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<v Speaker 3>and roster wise otherwise, like you know, you get Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson back and he's if he can be healthy throughout,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, most of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to one of the best tackle tandems in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. LANDA.

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<v Speaker 3>Dickerson said, he feels a lot better than he did

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<v Speaker 3>last year. I was a little disappointed not here McKay

0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.040
<v Speaker 3>lemon making more of a difference in camp at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>but he is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie, so I'll give him a little bit of grace.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking, okay, new offense Sean Mannion, and the

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<v Speaker 3>talk out of there is that it looks a lot

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<v Speaker 3>better than it did last year. If you can take

0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.800
<v Speaker 3>this team, which for half the season looked like one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best teams in the NFL before they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fell apart as they do in odd numbered years,

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<v Speaker 3>and figure out the offense to get out of the

0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.120
<v Speaker 3>dysfunctional offensive place they were in last year, then they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a top five team. And I still

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<v Speaker 3>believe in that and the demonstrated success and ability to

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<v Speaker 3>get over the hump over the last five six years.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I do the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why they end up at four, and the

0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Bills go to five, where there's questions with them with

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Brady coming in as the new head coach. But

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<v Speaker 3>you're keeping the offensive, continuity, the familiarity, it's all there.

0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.520
<v Speaker 3>You add DJ More to give yourself another option. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like you went and got aj Brown, but you

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<v Speaker 3>still gave yourself another option you didn't have last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I still have questions about their defense. I still need

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<v Speaker 3>to see them deliver because they didn't really do it

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<v Speaker 3>at a level that I wanted them to under Sean

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<v Speaker 3>McDermott over the last couple of years. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>end up with Baltimore's Ken Lamar stay healthy, as simple

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<v Speaker 3>as that, honestly, because if he's healthy, they're a much

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<v Speaker 3>different team than they were prior. They also have a

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<v Speaker 3>new coach, they got a new offense. Those are some

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<v Speaker 3>things that they have to work out, which is also

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<v Speaker 3>why they land behind the Eagles. But overall, this is

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<v Speaker 3>still a very strong three that I have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of confidence in.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I like what you did because ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 1>saying last year was a little bit of an anomaly

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ravens. Certainly, you know, the way it ended

0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.760
<v Speaker 1>for the Bills was familiar. That Eagles have been this

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<v Speaker 1>up and down team. But the crazy thing about the

0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.520
<v Speaker 1>NFL this decade is that it's actually been rather consistent

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<v Speaker 1>at the top that the best six or eight teams

0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.600
<v Speaker 1>have kind of been there. And there's a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Howie Roseman finished his number one on all those GM lists.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, these power rankings are very much just about

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<v Speaker 1>who's got the players, and on defense, the only teams

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<v Speaker 1>that can even challenge the Eagles would be the Houston

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<v Speaker 1>Texans and maybe the Broncos, although Frankly, just in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of pure talent, Jalen Carter, Jordan Jay looks on Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Bond Quinnon, and Cooper Dejine in the back end, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all the depth they have, I actually would even

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<v Speaker 1>take them pure talent over the Broncos. So it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to beat them. And then you have a future Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer at Lane Johnson, you know, still on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, you still have Saquon like a potential future

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. You have a good one in DeVante,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the players are all there. I like trusting in them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like trusting Frankly and Lamar and Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>with enough around them as tiebreakers kind of in a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wide open grouping. So that all makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Four through six your next group and will go you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven through nine. I think, or maybe among the most

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<v Speaker 1>controversial things you put on this list. The Jags there

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<v Speaker 1>at seven, the Bengals at eight, and then the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>at nine. The Bears are round out the top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get them in a second because I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put them in a different group, But those three are

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jags going at seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Did did you just get intimidated by Liam Cohen saying

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<v Speaker 1>NFL dot Com specifically doesn't give enough love to the Jags?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I did feel like I was catching astray from Liam there,

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<v Speaker 3>but that did not motivate my decision, although I did

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<v Speaker 3>right that I hear him and I wanted to know

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<v Speaker 3>that I respect and believe in his team very much. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a cynic by nature, but optimism season has

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<v Speaker 3>an effect on me as well, and I cannot overlook

0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.080
<v Speaker 3>the team that they became in the back half of

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<v Speaker 3>last year. Yes, they lost in heartbreaking fashion in the postseason,

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<v Speaker 3>but they did things with that offense. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>turned Parker Washington into a name people actually recognize now.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, they got Trevor Lawrence to a place that

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<v Speaker 3>he's never been before, which is somebody who actually looks

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<v Speaker 3>like he is the franchise quarterback they've always wanted him

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<v Speaker 3>to be. A lot of that was because he started

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<v Speaker 3>using his legs more. They just became a unit that

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<v Speaker 3>was so explosive and so fun to watch that I'm like, Oh,

0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.920
<v Speaker 3>they've hit their groove. If they can keep most of

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<v Speaker 3>this together, stay healthy, and then into the next season,

0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.880
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be hitting the ground running and continue

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<v Speaker 3>to as explosive as they were last year, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Thomas can actually figure it out, which you know

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<v Speaker 3>he had struggles doing that last year, especially in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half of the year. So I'm thinking, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's cool. My only concern with them is that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a team that did probably the least of any

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<v Speaker 3>franchise in the NFL in the offseason in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>roster changes. Sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes I worry

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<v Speaker 3>if that's you're resting on your laurels, or if you

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<v Speaker 3>just like the continuity and the familiarity and you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to ride it going forward. There's also the whole question

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<v Speaker 3>of the backfield. You know, baseil toot and we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this before, how it's going to be a committee

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<v Speaker 3>group that with guys, you know, filling different roles. I

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<v Speaker 3>firmly though, I am a believer in what Jacksonville has

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<v Speaker 3>put together in a division that's going to be more

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<v Speaker 3>competitive than people realize. But they came out on top

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<v Speaker 3>last year for a reason because they figured it out

0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.800
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't change much. So that's why they end

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<v Speaker 3>up at seven. I'm also I'm drinking the Bengals kool

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<v Speaker 3>aid because.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to stop you there, because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars I actually get, and you're almost correcting a weird

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<v Speaker 1>wrong in terms of perception. They are the type of

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<v Speaker 1>team that normally would have a lot of people predicting

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<v Speaker 1>them to make the Super Bowl, a team that's very

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<v Speaker 1>offense heavy, that really emerged last year, that finished strong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a bad luck playoff loss, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>bother me. Like they're a thirteen win team ascending a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young players that make sense. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick them over the Texans, fine to me. The Texans

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<v Speaker 1>have been in the final eight teams for three straight years,

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<v Speaker 1>have one of the most reliable units in the league

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<v Speaker 1>on either side of the ball in the defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have them much higher. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>them in my top five certainly, but it's not too crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals is the one that sticks out like a

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<v Speaker 1>thorst a sore thumb here because it's all just projection.

0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 1>This team has been mediocre for three straight seasons. They

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<v Speaker 1>get Dexter Lawrence and get a good couple like offseason articles,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly you're putting the Bengals in the same group

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<v Speaker 1>as these two teams that actually did it last year.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're also.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting them, you know, well ahead of the Patriots tour

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<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl, the Packers, who are at least

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs every year and have a better organization,

0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I think, the Lions, the Chiefs suffording all these teams

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting the Bengals way ahead of And to me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is projection.

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<v Speaker 2>This is prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in power rankings because they're not that powerful

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<v Speaker 1>until I see it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair, But I think power rankings before the start

0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.080
<v Speaker 3>of the preseason is nothing but projection.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's evidence based, sometimes it's projecting. Right, let's identify

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 3>a few things real quickly with this team that have

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<v Speaker 3>been pretty consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>Themes over the last few years one.

0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow has struggled to stay healthy and if throughout

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<v Speaker 3>a full season over the last few and their defense

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.880
<v Speaker 3>hasn't been able to stop a nosebleed for the last

0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 3>three Their offensive line has been meh, and it's gotten

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.560
<v Speaker 3>more credit than I think it deserves. And we've known

0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 3>what they've had at receiver, and that's basically been their

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.760
<v Speaker 3>story to the point where we thought maybe Zach Tarrell,

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Zach Taylor might get fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, he didn't.

0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.080
<v Speaker 3>He's the only coach that survived this past offseason the

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<v Speaker 3>NFC North. And there's a reason for that because if

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<v Speaker 3>he has his quarterback, then he has a much better

0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 3>chance of success if he can also get some you know,

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.680
<v Speaker 3>solid performance from his defense. And I you know, when

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.680
<v Speaker 3>you heard Joe Burrow earlier this offseason say, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the most talented roster I've been on since I was

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<v Speaker 3>at LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in terms of just comparing me.

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<v Speaker 1>You started pressing plus one plus one, move him up

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<v Speaker 1>a spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey b is happy, happy around the horn. This is

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<v Speaker 2>around the horn.

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then the passage of time can produce some

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<v Speaker 3>interesting results. And the more I thought about it, the

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<v Speaker 3>more I consider the fact that I love their secondary.

0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.439
<v Speaker 3>I think DJ Turner had an incredible second half last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's one of the most underrated guys in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL right now that everybody's going to start to know

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<v Speaker 3>about this year if they pay attention. I don't think

0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.639
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have to pay that much attention to

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<v Speaker 3>get to know him. Dexter Lawrence is a huge upgrade

0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 3>on the interior. They also added Jonathan Allen, a veteran

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.719
<v Speaker 3>with plenty of experience, maybe not top you know, he's

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.000
<v Speaker 3>not a top tier player anymore, but I mean that's

0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.600
<v Speaker 3>a good pairing right there. Mafe comes in as an

0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.560
<v Speaker 3>edge rusher, cash Is Hall making some noise in camps

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.080
<v Speaker 3>as a specialized pass rusher. I look at this and

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Okay, I could start to see it. They

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<v Speaker 3>got athletes at the second level of the defense. Do

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<v Speaker 3>I like the fact that Orin Burk's slotted as a

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<v Speaker 3>potential starter at this point, No, but because he's been

0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.960
<v Speaker 3>a veteran deaf guy in his last three stops. But overall,

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<v Speaker 3>I can see the vision with this group, and again,

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.679
<v Speaker 3>I think knows how to put up points if they

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.600
<v Speaker 3>can get solid play from their defense. They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be right there. They're going to be right there in

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.640
<v Speaker 3>the AFC North Race and beyond. And that's why they're

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.879
<v Speaker 3>behind the Ravens. But they're still up here in the

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<v Speaker 3>top eight. Ahead of the Texans. Is outread because I

0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 3>don't have any and let me explain that real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to see it from that offense. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not a CJ. Stroud thing. This is the offense. Losingico

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Collins late hurt that they've.

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Had those They've had that bad offense and still been

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<v Speaker 1>winning a lot of games.

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 2>They get to the divisional round with the defense. So

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to put them ahead of a team

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<v Speaker 2>that might be more balanced in Jacksonville or Cincinnati, I'm

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.600
<v Speaker 2>going to need to see it proven by this offense.

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the addition of David Montgomery is going to

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 2>be a big pickup, and Nico Collins coming back healthy

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.159
<v Speaker 2>is going to be good. But as of now, this

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<v Speaker 2>is where they stand.

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, who was a lot more balanced than the

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Bengals the last three years, the Texans. You know, as

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>bad as that offense was, it was better than the

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>See it's all interpretation power rankings to me before the

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<v Speaker 1>season is tricky because you're right, we're just projecting things differently.

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I would have the Bengals lower until they proved it

0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 1>for this exercise. To me, they've been the AFC Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>who are in our next grouping. I just like the

0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Bears Cowboys there at ten and eleven the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL is.

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<v Speaker 1>Good that you know, it's got the Bears and the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys kind of on the comeback trail here. They're similar

0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>to me. We need the Raiders back in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>too because they're similar to me too. But just the

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>expectations are high for both of these teams. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan POMPEII column about Ben Johnson that came out

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, and it has a quote from Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a total maniac, but he said, you've got thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one other teams coming to training camp saying our goal

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is to win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I want more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have the highest scoring offense ever, which

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>happens to be the twenty thirteen Denver Broncos. I know

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<v Speaker 1>how many points per game they scored, thirty seven point nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to surpass them.

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<v Speaker 2>I want shutouts. I want blowouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he went and asked the author, what's the longest

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<v Speaker 1>winning streak in the history of the NFL? And it

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>was the Patriots who did it over two seasons. What

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<v Speaker 1>was it twenty one game?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is insane, but it got me fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it got me to make a point here that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't much on the show yet, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams, by all accounts, despite all the injuries around him,

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<v Speaker 1>has looked incredible at camp and there is a world

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<v Speaker 1>where he goes up another level. And Ben Johnson's insanity

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.959
<v Speaker 1>is something that gets me going, even if if it's

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like borderline unhealthy. If you read the article, very John

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Gruden by the way, yeah, young John Gruden, Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a little crazy to find success as a coach

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. You just do.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be a little bit delusional to really

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<v Speaker 3>get to that mountaintop. And I firmly believe that Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>will take that next step because of the progress that

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<v Speaker 3>he made last year just over the course of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Their biggest flaw is that oftentimes they needed him to

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<v Speaker 3>be his absolute best just to win football games, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm concerned and a lot of this power ranking is

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<v Speaker 3>related to what's happened in training.

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<v Speaker 2>Camp so far.

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<v Speaker 3>They have suffered multiple losses in the secondary, and this

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.919
<v Speaker 3>was filed before we found out that Kobe Bryant's going

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<v Speaker 3>to miss most of the season. They've been in crisis

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 3>mode in that secondary for the last week or so

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 3>and it's a weakness that I'm worried about now. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they'll be strong. I do think that

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 3>they're going to miss Dj Moore a little bit because

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<v Speaker 3>they're putting a lot on the shoulders of Luther Burden,

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<v Speaker 3>which I believe that he has the talent to live

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<v Speaker 3>up to that, but it's about delivering on your talent,

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 3>which we know oftentimes those two things don't align. I

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<v Speaker 3>fully believe in Caleb and Ben Johnson and what they

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<v Speaker 3>can produce, but when it comes to this team overall,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not putting them as a regression candidate necessarily because

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<v Speaker 3>this is still the top NFC North team I have

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<v Speaker 3>on this list. It's just that they don't land inside

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<v Speaker 3>the top nine because of what's happened so far this

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<v Speaker 3>season during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where would they have been even to finish

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>like last regular season right around that, so you're not,

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, painting them with a big regression brush. You

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>have the Cowboys improving, but not like, you know, an

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>insane amount. I think a healthy amount there at eleven,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>so some optimism that they're a playoff type of team.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like the fact that after the Rams joint practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, we do have our joint practice winners coming

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>up at the very end of the show very quickly.

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you like that as the Rams were filing off

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<v Speaker 1>the field in blistering hot Thousand Oaks, they're back at

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 1>their team facility, which is far away from the oceanic

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>training camp spot they had before, which has a nice breeze,

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you know, in the seventies. Now they're

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a ninety five degree weather. The Rams are all leaving,

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys players on their own decided, we're going

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to do the conditioning that we've been doing at the

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>end of every practice, even without our coaches asking, We're

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing like twenty yards suicides with Dak Prescott,

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Debarvion Overstone leading the way. And you almost see some

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Rams players walking by and muttering under their breath, Like,

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 1>is this try hard trading camp nonsense or does this

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>show that they got the fire in them?

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.479
<v Speaker 2>And Brian Schottenheimer is that dude?

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Usually I'll call it tryhard stuff, but not with this team,

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 3>because this is exactly what this team needs. This team

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 3>needs some motivation and some clear intent and the idea

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 3>of having Dak leading that makes me excited. It makes

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 3>me excited because I think they believe the changes that

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 3>they made this offseason and put them in a position

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<v Speaker 3>to contend.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 2>It's what I think is going to happen with them

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna be one of the teams that,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 3>despite being the Dallas Cowboys, are going to improve pretty

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 3>significantly on their finish last year. And I don't know

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 3>if I want to say surprise, because they were the

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 3>star on their helmet, they're always in the conversation.

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think they're going to surprise some people. Yeah

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>again a lot of us.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as long as everything the defensive side comes together,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 3>which so far, so good, I think this is could

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the very good team in the NFL

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 3>and a fun team to watch this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they're gonna get a lot of pop

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>coming into the season third of in terms of predictions,

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>but you have them right around where I would expect

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.239
<v Speaker 1>them to be slotted. I think George Pickens is a

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 1>huge X factor. But I have to admit I am

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>encouraged by the fact that multiple Cowboys beat writers in

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>podcasts have been listening to say that he's been the

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>best player in camp, and so that gives me confidence.

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 1>That he's been an up and down player throughout his career,

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>but he found something here and maybe what he found

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was Dak Prescott as his quarterback instead of like Mason Rudolph.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>But he knows how important this year is for his future.

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>And so far, so good, because to me, he's the

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>biggest X factor. My next group to two more teams

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that are outside your top ten, but inside I guess

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>what would be a roughly playoff team Patriots at twelve.

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. Even coming off the Super Bowl

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>in thirteen. I think there's there's holes in this team,

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and if they made the playoffs again, I think that

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a good season for them.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>You something we were kicking around at Chargers practice on Tuesday.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love or Justin Herbert I knew this is gonna

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>be the talk you did. How did you know that?

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I because I've been hearing this a lot lately. This

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 3>is they're getting they're getting paired a lot in preseason talks.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so who. It was really hard for me, and

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit, I know who. I stuck with

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Herbert because it's like sunk cost fallacy, maybe that I'm

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.239
<v Speaker 1>so in and nothing has taken me out of you know,

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>the playoff games haven't been great, but it's not enough

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to back out of it. But man,

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>as it was so hard for me to make that

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>choice that you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I also lean Herbert, but it's by a hair There's

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 3>something in me that just had I have this faith

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>in him that, like when the chips are down and

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 3>that he's got.

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>To go make a play, he's gonna do it. It's

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 2>not that Jordan Love can't do it.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just that I don't have that same high level

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>of confidence in him. Yet otherwise, the town's there, the

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 3>arms there, the athleticism, you know, the improvisation, the arm strength,

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 3>and just the beauty of the way the ball comes

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 3>out of both of their hands.

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>It's all there.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just a matter of like in crunch time, if

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I had to choose between the two, I'm taking Herbert

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 3>as of right now. Of course, you think about situation

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 3>around the two, and I think Love has benefited from

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 3>a better offensive line situation, not significantly better, but better

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>then the disaster Herbert's been playing behind for the last

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>couple of years. But otherwise, I mean, they're both very close,

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 3>but I'm still leaning Herbert.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how about them or Drake May for both this

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>year and long term? M I would assume most people

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>would take May long term, but that not everyone. I

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>would certainly, but for this year, I think it's an

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting question. Can can May year three already like kind

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>of stabilize and be at or above that level. Ultimately,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to believe in my guy, and my guy

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is Drake May. But I think it's a fair question.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>So I think what's going to happen is right now

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 3>it goes Herbert love May, and by November it's May

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Herbert Love and that's how much AJ Brown's going to

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>mean to him. I think that they're going to put

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 3>up some serious fireworks together and it's going to improve

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 3>his already sparkling reputation very quickly, and that'll carry on

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>through the long term as well.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the reports from that joint practice, you know, just

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just spamming aj Brown. Both the connection with him

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and Dobbs have gotten better. But I think the Packers

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and the Patriots were a canny like a perfect pairing

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>together because to me, the quarterbacks you love, the offensive

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>system you really like, and I'm really optimistic about this year,

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of just peeking under the hood

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>questions about lots of different parts of the team, the

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>secondary for each, the offensive lines for each, and injuries

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and depth at defensive edge position. So I think they're

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>very similar. Let's go to your next group, which fascinates

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>me fourteen through sixteen Lions, Chiefs, Niners, and my big question,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to make some choices, but why are

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the Niners so far back? Because I mentioned teams of

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the decades earlier, they've earned some sort of respect. If

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I just go through the rosters and talk about how

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>good the forty nine ers are at the very top level,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they're right, you know, they're close to that Eagles team

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>in terms of top end talent, and I also struggle

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to see the Lions this low too, because you know

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>they've got such great continuity of great great players in

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 1>terms of aman Rah and Gibbs and Jamison and Piney

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Sewell and Hutchet like those are real deal guys. I

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>know there's questions of depth in this category. Is where

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>my point from earlier really stands out. Because if you

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>gave me the Lions, the Chiefs, and the forty nine

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Ers shook okay, and you get your four or five

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>six team Eagles, Bill's Ravens, I think I got a

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>fighting chance here to beat you and overall wins this

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>year with fourteen through sixteen, I don't think.

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's crazy at all.

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Lions, Chiefs and forty nine Ers going better than Ravens

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Bill's Eagles. I probably would take your four five six,

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's I think it's close, okay.

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 3>So that's you showing respect to the coaching staffs that

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 3>exist with the latter three as opposed to the new

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>ones with the former three, the ones that are ranked

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 3>higher at this point.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>And I respect that, and I understand that.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever done a spring cleaning in like your

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, with like a closet and you, let's say,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>instead of just like picking and purging, you kind of

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 3>like just take full stock of everything and you lay

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>everything out right, and then you start to reorganize and

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 3>you put some things in a pile to donate to

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 3>goodwill or whatever, and you feel good, and then you

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 3>look over and you're like, oh, no, I still have

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 3>this pile of stuff, and and suddenly I don't I

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know where to put it. That's how I felt

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 3>with this group, because I'm like, wait a minute, you're

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 3>telling me right now that I got the Lions at fourteen,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>I got the Niners at sixteen. Chiefs, I can understand

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>being at fifteen, how do they end up this low?

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I am going to catch some flak for this, but

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>in the order of all of it, I also can't

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>justify moving them ahead of many of these teams. I

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>was just kind of stuck with this group of three,

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.959
<v Speaker 3>and it really comes down to some questions with all three.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Also, what's happened in training camp.

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>We know that the Niners are already dealing with a

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>number of injuries both at receiver and beyond, and I

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>hate that that's just a consistent theme with this team.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>It also shouldn't be the biggest red flag for them

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>because they've overcome it in the past, But do you

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>really want to make that journey that difficult in yourselves?

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>That's why I kind of put them down a little

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>bit lower.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm you know, just in self examination

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>and self critique here, I don't think that I'm putting

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 3>enough respect on the name of Brock Purdy and this group.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 3>But I also am getting George Kittle off of an injury.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting I've already lost Ricky pier Sall, Christian Kirk

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>coming off of some sort of injury, you know situation.

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Even the young guys Stribble, a guy who's turned a

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of heads dealing with injuries that sort of thing

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>throughout this camp, and it just makes me think, like, God,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 3>is this going to be another year in which they're

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>going to have to overcome so much of this injury

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 3>related stuff that it's going to kind of hurt their

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>overall value. So that's how they stand right now, but

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 3>that could be very different very quickly. Whereas with the Lions,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I still think about this whole group and what happened

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>last year with them and how they've had to reshuffle

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 3>their offensive line and losing Caid Mays to a risk

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 3>injury because I had written in there that adding him

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>was going to be a big boost for this offensive

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>line and getting back to the strong unit that they

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 3>were a few years ago, which is very key to

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>their offensive success, which then ends up being very key

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>to their overall success. That takes a hit that drops

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>them down a little bit makes me a little more

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>concerned about their trajectory. We've kind of broken down their

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 3>roster in the past already, but I still have some

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>questions about what they look like defensively, especially opposite Aden Hutchinson.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, I like dj Wantam, I like Derek Moore

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>and what they've got there, but I just feel a

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>little bit concerned about their front and then the Chiefs.

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like, when I first did this, they were a

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>little bit higher, and then I took a step back

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>and I think thought, well, Mahomes is coming off the ACL.

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 3>We don't really know exactly if he's going to be

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>the same Mahomes right away.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's not like it's easy.

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 3>When they faced the Broncos to start the season, and

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 3>they still have some questions. There's some there's a lot

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>of uncertainty with the fact that they basically revamp their

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 3>secondary both because they wanted to and they needed to.

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>They had departures, you know, Jalen Watson leaves, they trade

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 3>away Trent McDuffie. They're putting a lot on mansword Delaine

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to come in and play, you know, a key spot

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 3>at corner opposite Lagerius Snead. I like the idea of

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>adding Cater Kohu, but I just feel a little weird

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>about this defense. Steve Snagnelo deserves a lot of credit

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 3>for what he can do with the defense, but that's

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>a group that I need to see prove that they

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 3>can be effective before I just blindly believe they're going

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.239
<v Speaker 3>to and receiver for them.

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll blindly believe that they're the Chiefs.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Like everyone wanted to kill the problem that we have

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>with this group, because let's look at what they did

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 3>last year.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>They never became a jib. They're going to figure last year.

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Like last year going into it, everyone's like one score regression. Uh,

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take a step back because they were so

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>lucky winning by one score. They were the most unlucky

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>team in the NFL last year they had the worst

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>one score record of all time.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I just think with Mahomes, you're right.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought when you were making the analogy earlier about

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>putting everything to the side and you're like, dang, what

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 1>do I have left here?

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>What am I doing with this stuff?

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:11.959
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were just going to be talking about

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs roster, because when you look at it, it's

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, what is really here?

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately I.

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Just kind of Mahomes read washes most of it away.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>But I also don't want to do the thing that

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we do around Hall of Fame time or All Pro time,

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>where we're like he should be first team, like, okay,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>but who are you going to move down? Or he

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>should be in the Hall of Fame? Okay, who you

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>taking out? And so like, who are you moving down?

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're moving these teams up, I might move down

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.919
<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys, the Bengals, maybe the Bears a little

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>bit under some of these teams.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>But reasonable minds can disagree.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And it really points out it's a season where there's

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 1>going to be some really disappointed fan bases out there

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>because we've already hit at least two three teams that

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to make the playoffs, and there's high expectations

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>for all these teams. You mentioned all the forty nine

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>ers injuries. I did want to note Nick Bosa has

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>been out for a week. He had he didn't even

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>get to a normal practice. He didn't even get to

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>seven on sevens. He was just doing individuals on the side.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And then he had a setback that they're not calling

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.479
<v Speaker 1>a setback that they're calling soreness coming off a touring

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>ACL that they said is actually the ACL that he

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>toured high school and not the one he toured last year.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that doesn't make me feel better if they

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have Nick Bosa. And at this point, I guess

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll believe it when I see it for a little while,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, that's a that's a big time loss. And

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 1>yet you know Shanahan plus insert quarterback here, Yeah, being

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>about the second best quarterback.

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>In the league's behind Mahomes. It's great and.

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Last year they found a way to get it done

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 3>without Nick Bosa and Fred Warner, So like, you know,

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 3>you got to get respect in that area. But it

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 3>just there's a little bit too much dysfunction or just

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 3>a collection of bad luck at this stage. Before we

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 3>even start preseason games this week for me to be like, yeah,

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna trust the process since they they've been

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 3>there so many times before.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, and they have overcome injuries, even

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the year that they made the NFC Championship and the

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Rams beat them like they were banged up that year.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>They also had some pretty down years under Kyle Shannon,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and now that had to do with quarterback injuries. And

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>one thing I've loved to hear is that Purdy has

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>been very good in camp. He's been healthy, and so

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike Evans is returning soon. Stribbling is already back.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>There are positives to talk about with the forty nine ers,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>but man, it just shows what a deep NFL it

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is that we put the forty nine ers at sixteen,

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>the Lions in Chiefs, like those teams were the best

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.479
<v Speaker 1>teams in the league just a couple of years ago,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Even gotten to the team that we visited.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 1>We'll find out where they're at, and I'm talking about

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the Charges. Of course, after the break, let's get the

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>second half of the NFL and Shook's debut power rankings

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 1>in it.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Back on NFL daily.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Four teams coming up in the power rankings where their

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>fan bases they're not going to be happy because on paper,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, Vikings, Colts, and Steelers seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>all feel like playoff contenders, above average teams, teams with real, define,

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>high level strengths. And yet I think, because the bottom

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of the NFL feels so bad this season, that like,

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>actually average is pretty tough to get to, and you have.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Them all as below average.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Man that year three of Jim Harbough, He's won a

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of games, shook, He's pretty good up front on

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>both lines. Why was it hard for you to not

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 1>put them higher?

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>This was the last team that I was like.

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 3>When I got to the Chargers at seventeen, I thought, man,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I really hate that they're at seventeen because I have

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 3>high hopes for them this year. But when I think

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 3>about the teams I put in front of them, I

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't really justify moving the Chargers ahead of any of them.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Them.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Now that can change quickly, because if Mike McDaniel can

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 3>come in and really establish an effective ground game, which

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to with a very diverse backfield,

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna be a much better offense than they were

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 3>in previous years. They're also gonna if they have a

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>stronger offensive line, which means, you know, guys don't get hurt,

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 3>then they're going to be a much better offense than

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 3>they were in previous years. And we already kind of

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>know what they have. Defensively, they've established their identity and

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 3>they've established most of their contributors on that side. So

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, okay, like overall, all right, I can see it.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 3>I can definitely see them climbing, but as of now,

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 3>it's more about you got to prove it to me

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 3>than I can just you know, ride with Okay, Well,

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 3>they managed to win x amount of games and make

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs and then wash out of the wildcard round.

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I really really like offensively their tight end room. It's

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 3>very diverse. They're running back room. I'm Ario Hampton, community

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 3>of it all, Keaton Mitchell, all different types of backs

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 3>that I think can do a lot of different things

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 3>for you. You just gotta stay healthy upfront and they'll

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>be a very productive group. And and look, I mean defensively,

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of the same usual suspects. It's Khalil Mack

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 3>it's Diane Henley, it's Tully Tulupilo too, It's it's you

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 3>know those types of guys. It's Derwin James in the back.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just all your usual guys that are going

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to contribute. I just kind of needed all to come

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 3>together at a level that we've seen glimpses of it

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 3>coming together in past years.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 2>It just hasn't sustained.

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>They were similar to the forty nine ers last year.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that they had so many injuries and they

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>still won eleven games. So that's a good sign if

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>they can stay healthy. And I really believe in the

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, and we were there at camp and they've

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>got a couple undrafted rookies in the secondary that I

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of expect to make the team. They have a

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>rookie safety Day three in Genesis Smith who they're pretty

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 1>excited about. And they they've been able to like coach

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>up guys to produce. So I'd have them a little

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>higher because of the coaching stuff, But you're right, it's

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>just a deep NFL. The Vikings are an interesting team

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because if we're just ranking rosters, I think the Vikings

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and Steelers are similar here where you know I like

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot about both their lines. Christ and Darra saw

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>healthy again for the Vikings. And then the upside of

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the steel there's offensive line, certainly their defensive line. There's

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback questions, but these are I think they're pretty well

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>set up rosters. I put the Colts to the side

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit in this group, and I like the Colts,

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but they're a veteran team as well, just with more

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like variants and upside.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>But like.

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I look at what the front offices have done overall

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota and in Pittsburgh.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Yeah, I

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>would agree.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 3>It seems to me, like I mean, when we talk

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 3>about the or the Vikings last year, the one thing

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 3>that we always come back to, at least if you're

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 3>a Vikings fan especially, is well, they won nine games

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 3>last year with no quarterback, no quarterback stability whatsoever. They

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.399
<v Speaker 3>had nine games that they were able to win because

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 3>their defense is good and Brian Flores gets all this

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>money in the defensive quarter because he's very good at producing,

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, an exotic scheme that really maximizes the town

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 3>that he has on that side of the ball. And

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 3>this receiving core with the Vikings, I think is one

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 3>of the stronger ones under the radar that we see

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL with Jefferson Addison and Juwan Jennings. It's

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 3>just a matter of what are you going to get

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>from your quarterback play. Kyler Murray been named the starter,

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>we all expected it. Now he's got to go out

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 3>and produce and prove that he was just stuck in

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 3>a bad situation in Arizona, that he's actually a better

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 3>quarterback than that.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I kind of think that he'll make some.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Progress in that area and that they'll be a better team,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 3>but as of now, they sit here because they have

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>yet to do it. I have a lot of faith

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 3>in this staff, and I have a lot of faith

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 3>in their potential, but you should never fall in love

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 3>with potential, right right.

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And my biggest concern from a broad perspective is just

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that the defense, which has been so scheme dependent and

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>people forget, was a little erratic last year. The first

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>three months of the season when they were playing their

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>meaningful games, they had some stinker performances, and they got

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>super hot down the stretch after they were out of it,

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>basically and carried them to a great defensive ranking and

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>ultimately yeah, winning record, which which.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Was crazy, but they are.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>If they suddenly go from like the second or third

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>best defense in the league to the eleventh, then I

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if the offense can make up for it.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 2>But I like the roster.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I like the Colts roster overall, and the Steelers like

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>there are going to be so many disappointed teams in

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the NFL because we are twenty teams deep and we

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have not gotten to a city yet where the fan

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.760
<v Speaker 1>base does not expect playoffs, and I think the Colts

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe our fans are a little more realistic, but they'll

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>be wanting Chris Ballard's head on a pike if they

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>don't make the playoffs, and I think they absolutely could.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to our next group. You're kind of cheating.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll group the entire NFC South together. You did the

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Jordan thing she had said on our preview of the

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>division that the floor for each team was eight and

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>nine and the ceiling was nine and eight. Is a

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>good bit, a good podcast bit. I respect it. Here's

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>what I would have recommended you do on the Power ringings.

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You put Saints twenty one, Bucks twenty two Panthers twenty three.

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Here's the stinker. You put the Titans pretty high. For

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the Titans twenty four and then the Falcons twenty five.

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's put the Titans to the side. If you're gonna

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>do this and almost just throw your hands up shook

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>about the NFC South, Just put them all in order.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Why you even throw the Titans in the middle. You

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>had a good bit going and you kind of ruined

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the bit.

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Now that's the problem. It was an accidental bit. It

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't intentional.

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 3>The one thing I wanted to do was put the

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Saints in front of the rest of the division because

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I believe in their potential right and I believe in

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 3>that in year two Tyler shuck Kellen Moore and what

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 3>can happen with this offense Jordan Tyson had to do

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 3>a group with Chris Olave.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I love that potential, and I also have.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Some concerns about some of their defense, But overall, I

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 3>think that this is a team.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I think you said it on one of our recent shows.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 2>They could look a lot better and still only win

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>like one or two more games than they did last year.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 3>That's still a success to me. But that's about this

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 3>range that you land in every other team this division.

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I have legitimate concerns about the Buccaneers. Vibes were bad

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 3>to start camp. Baker Mayfield's in a contract year, which

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>should be good, except I feel like this is a

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>team that they've been an offensive team for the last

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 3>couple of years. I don't know if they're going to

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 3>be as effective offensive. This is the first year in

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>which their offensive coordinator wasn't hired away to a job.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Instead they just had to replace him, and they replaced

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 3>him with Zach Robinson. I don't know if you remember

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>what happened. Happened with the Falcons then offense, Zach Robinson,

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the controls. It was not good. So I have a

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 3>hard time believing in this team. Panthers injuries. I mean,

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 3>they've just been crushed by injuries to start training camp.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 3>It's been the most unfortunate camp I think of any

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 3>team in the NFL. And they won the division last

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 3>year with an eight and nine record, so it's not

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 3>like they're really that great to begin with. Not to

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 3>say that I don't believe in Bryce Young, but they

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 3>lost Chris Browsley, lost Nick Gordon. Their tackle situation is

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 3>not encouraging. Even though they tried to hedge against it

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>with their offseason moves of them in Roe Freeling and

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Rashid Walker to kind of make sure right, well, at

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 3>least we have depth there, But I just don't feel

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 3>super confident about that by this time. And the reason

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>that the Falcons don't make it here is because I'm

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a believer in the Titans.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you said put yeah, let's do that separate.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not that much of a yeah. You're

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>not putting the Falcons too far down. In fact, them

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>and the Its are the first two teams on this

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>list that I just think it would be shocking if

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they made the playoffs. For instance, I don't think they

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>should have realistic chances, And if you had put them

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in the bottom four or five, I wouldn't have been

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>surprised bottom three, like I could see a case for

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>either of them.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>There.

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>One thing I'll just mention with the Panthers is they

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of injuries right away and it's like

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they were the only team in camp, and so there's

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of focus on that.

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>That's all true.

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>It is all true, and you can only base these

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>rankings off the information we have. There will be more injuries, unfortunately,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and a lot more once the regular season starts. So

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we tend to not overreact to what happened in

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>training camp. But just this is what we know so far,

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and if they can just stabilize they haven't had anything

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>devastating across your fingers in like ten days or so,

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>then maybe they end up being just in a normal

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>range of injuries. My last thing on this division. We

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.280
<v Speaker 1>previewed this division this week, check it out with Trevor Sikoma,

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 1>so we don't need to repeat all these teams is

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>just I strongly disagree about the Bucks. I would have

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>put them ahead of almost the entire last group. I

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>think you can make the case they could be top

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen, very easily top twelve if we're just

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>talking players, Nick and lineman Tristan Wurfs, maybe the best

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>in the league. Luke Getticky like a guy who's earned

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a long term contract. A good young interior group, and

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Graham Barton and Cody Mock. That's your offensive line. Plenty

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 1>of depth that wide receiver, a quarterback you've won with,

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>plenty of depth at running backs, A really tough defensive

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>line we talked about this week. I think a deep

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive backfield with varied talents in a nice safety tandem.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>In terms of Antoine Winfield and Tyke Smith, I just

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.720
<v Speaker 1>think they got players. I'm not like in love love

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>with quarterbacks slash vibes, slash coaching overall. And that's why

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, they are probably knocked down from like ten

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>or twelve to fifteen or sixteen. But to me, I

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>think people are sleeping on how clearly ahead of the

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 1>rest of the division they are in talent, that's my.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 3>Opinion, right, and they largely were last year too, and

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 3>what happened. Yeah, and this is just completely illustrates my

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 3>lack of faith in his coaching staff. We've seen talented

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 3>teams under delivered with bad coaching staffs. I think that

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>this is one of those examples. I could be wrong,

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 3>because you're right, this is a very strong roster in

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>a number of different areas.

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 2>But I could be wrong. The Titans, Now, let's make

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 2>your case twenty four do right.

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 3>So let's think about projection trajectory where a team goes

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>from year one to year two with the number one

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 3>overall pick a quarterback, a guy that a lot of

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.879
<v Speaker 3>us I think really kind of almost fell in love

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 3>with as a rookie. He was definitely good for throw

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Week or Throw of the Year candidates almost

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 3>every week. And let's think about the situation he was

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 3>in last year. He was playing with a largely rookie

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 3>receiving group. This is a team that was devoid of

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 3>talent in a number of different areas. And what did

0:47:58.560 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 3>they do in the off season. They went and got

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 3>a new coaching staff. They went and got the ideal

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 3>offensive coordinator for Camboord's development in Brian Dable. They went

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.720
<v Speaker 3>and drafted Carnell Tait number four overall in the draft.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 3>They went and got Wandale Robinson coming off a career

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 3>year with the Giants. They paid Peter Skoronski.

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Everything.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Offensively, I'm just very excited about because it's going to

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 3>be better than it was last year. Then defensively, who's

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 3>your head coach? Robert Solid known, effective defensive coordinator, defensive mind.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 3>He goes and gets a bunch of his types of

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 3>guys to fill out that defense. I just believe that

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 3>where they came from last year and where they could go,

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>especially with an offensive blossoming potentially on the table, they

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>could climb up into this range where it's not too

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 3>crazy to put them where I have them, which is

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 3>at twenty four. You're still not in the playoffs, but

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 3>you're one of the fun teams to watch that misses

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs.

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I like that take, kind of them as the best

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 1>of the worst. Yeah, it's a good take, and they

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>could be like a twenty twenty five Saints type of

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>team where you finished strong. What did the Saints win

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>last year in the end seven games, but you feel

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>good about how it ends and that you're headed in

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the right direction.

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a good take. You've made me rethink.

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>It, and I like where you put them, and I

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>like them ahead of the Falcons as well. Next group

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 1>is twenty six through twenty nine. Cardinals are at twenty six,

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Giants are at twenty seven, Browns at twenty eight, Commanders

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>at twenty nine.

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to the Commanders in a second.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>You sent me your potential power rankings ahead of time,

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>asking for my opinion. I respect, and I'm glad. I

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 1>think it made a better show today that you pretty

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>much ignored. I think most of my take on my responses,

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I made some changes I didn't I don't see them

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>except for I think I pushed for the Cardinals. You

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:47.839
<v Speaker 1>might have had them thirty or thirty one. I was like,

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing you listened to me about. Potentially,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Did I have an impact? Did I change history by

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>getting the Cardinals up to twenty six, because I just

0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>think they're stuck in the wrong division, But man, they

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>got some playmakers.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah you did.

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Look, I value your opinion greatly, and I also value

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>somebody cross checking me on things, because you never want

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 3>to operate in an echo chamber. So I was like, yeah,

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I got to see what Greg thinks about these, because

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling good about some of this and not so

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 3>much in some other ones. In Arizona was one of

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>those ones where when I put him down there, I thought, God,

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that's probably me undervaluing them just because their quarterback situation

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 3>isn't super promising, but they have so many playmakers around

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 3>their quarterback situation that they have to produce at some

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 3>sort of right. I mean, Jeremiah Love, you went and

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.839
<v Speaker 3>redid your almost your entire running back room.

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 2>You have two power backs, and.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Tyler Algier and James Connor, guys that can really grind

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 3>it out. Marvin Harrison junior, he's got to take a

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>step and I think that this is the offense that

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 3>can finally help him take a step forward. Train McBride

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 3>nine to nine overall tight end in Madden arguably the

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 3>best tight end in the NFL right now. Huge target

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 3>vacuum got to be a big part of this offense. Again,

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Some people regard their offensive line a

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 3>little more highly than I do, and you know what,

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 3>maybe that'll bear out over the course of the season.

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 3>That's probably my one concerned on that side. Defensively, they

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.919
<v Speaker 3>have some guys that I really like, but I also

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 3>think that they're a year or two away from putting

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 3>together a complete defense. I'm really hoping that Walter Nolan

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.359
<v Speaker 3>makes it through the season healthy because I think he'll

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 3>be a big difference maker for them. But overall, like

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I need Will Johnson to become the prospect that he

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 3>wasn't Michigan before he got hurt entering his pro career.

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Mac Wilson has found a role there overall, But like,

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 3>this is a group that's still a few pieces a

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 3>way for me, So I look at it as a

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>team that could probably be very fun to watch and

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 3>not end up with a lot of wins and be

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 3>right in the thick of going after a quarterback that

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:36.479
<v Speaker 3>they might want next year's draft if Carson Beck doesn't

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 3>end up on the field and you know changes that course.

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Look, a lot of these teams could make an argument

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>for what you did with the Titans kind of the

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>best of the worst.

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 2>The Giants could things go right.

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Their offense has had an up and down camp, but

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like the pass rushers adding Arvel Reese like there is

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a ceiling there. The Browns have a good young nucleus.

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to repeat our quarterback conversation with the

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>bread but they're good young nucleus. Could lift the floor

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way that kind of the Cardinals lift the

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>floor for whatever their quarterback situation is. Although if I

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>was a Browns fan, I would take Jacobe Brissett in

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a heartbeat over over day.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 2>They would do they would do to.

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>The Commanders are the team that really stands out here

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>at twenty nine. I mean they were in the NFC

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Championship game two years ago. They've made some big time changes.

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 1>That is the fan base I would expect to hear

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot from maybe you already have, because yeah, they're

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the only team here that's got a potential top ten

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback because he was one two years ago. And I've

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>been relatively down on them, but I would not have

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>been nearly this down on them. You know, I am

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to be a man of my word. Who would

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I put them ahead of? I would put them ahead

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Panthers, the Titans, the Falcons, the Cardinals, the Browns,

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, certainly maybe the Saints. So I would have

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>them around twenty one or so, it would be I

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>would have them.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So a couple things here.

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I am actually banking on John Harbaugh getting something out

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 3>of these high draft picks that the Giants have spent

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 3>on defense over the last few years, which they just

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>haven't gotten the production that they need to out of them,

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 3>and that maybe raises their floor a little bit.

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 2>And that's why they're ahead of Washington. And I also

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>want to say this.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I grew up a Browns fan, and I

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 3>spent so many off seasons wearing my brown and orange

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 3>colored glasses playing the what if game. Well, you know,

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 3>if this hadn't happened, or if they hadn't lost this

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 3>game by three or seven, then they got three four

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 3>more wins and suddenly they made these additions and they're

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 3>a better team. That's what Washington's doing right now. That's

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 3>what I can hear the Washington fan base doing, and

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I just caution against that because it can be a

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 3>little bit too intoxicating and then distort your vision of

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:43.879
<v Speaker 3>how you view your football team.

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That's not to say that Jayde Daniels isn't an awesome quarterback.

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 3>I think he is. He just got to stay on

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the field. We already discussed their receiver situation in previous shows. Yes,

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 3>they went and got Stefon Diggs. That's great. I don't

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 3>think that's going to fix all your problems. You lost

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Larry Atns will do a torn triceps, which could be

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the entire season. That hurts a lot, especially when one

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 3>of your main concerns is key being your quarterback healthy,

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and that lowers the overall ceiling for your team.

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I like the running back room.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 3>It's better than it was last year, especially after they

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 3>lost to Austin Eckler to injury.

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's the worst offense in the world.

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:11.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not. The defense is a complete unknown.

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 3>They were the worst team in the NFL defensively in

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 3>terms of yards allowed per game last year, and Dan

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Quinn is your head coach, that's supposed to be his thing.

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:19.919
<v Speaker 3>They went and tried to rebuild the almost the entire

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 3>starting lineup. They went and added a bunch of different guys.

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 3>That's going to fuel optimism, but it takes a while

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 3>for those guys to gel. I don't know if they

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 3>can over the course of a preseason and training camp

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and be able to hit the ground running early this season.

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 3>And if I believe, they also have a pretty tough

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>schedule in terms of, you know, if you're going to

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 3>play the schedule game overall.

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I have them down this low.

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 3>It's probably too low, and I admit that, but the

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 3>combination of the leaving Kunsil and having all these questions,

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 3>it makes me uncertain about them.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be bold.

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I give them an edge over these teams near them

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's not a first year head coach. It is

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a head coach that's had success in multiple spots. It's

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>been a erratic success, but he's had success. It's year

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>three of this regime. There is veteran talent here and

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>so to me, their floor is much higher than the

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 1>rest of the team's here. Last two teams are the

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Raiders and the Dolphins. Not a lot of disagreement in

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 1>terms of the Dolphins being last. The Raiders fans that

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>aren't happy there's a path to them being that Titans

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>team the best of the worst, like there is a path.

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>There is some talent, certainly on the defensive side, with

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the investments that they made, and it comes down to, like,

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>can Clint Kubiak really deliver?

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll find out.

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But as a team that's thirty first ranked here and

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are thirtieth. I should have mentioned as well

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that there's a decent amount of talent here. But I

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you not putting Gino in the Jets number thirty two.

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh, they weren't going to be thirty two. Thirty two

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 3>was just decided months ago. Oka was always going to

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 3>be thirty or thirty one. I think, yeah, look what

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 3>the Raiders there on the right path. I think after

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 3>years and years of dysfunction, you know, they've they've set

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 3>themselves on a long term path at quarterback and they

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 3>also have a short term answer. They have their bridge

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 3>veteran that Clint Kubiak won and they don't have much

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 3>at receiver, and I know Brock Bauers is going to

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 3>be their number one target again, and I know he

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 3>was hurt last year and I'm not undervaluing him at all,

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just looking at it overall offensive ceiling potential,

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 3>it's still pretty low. They did invest in their offensive line,

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 3>which was undoubtedly the worst in the NFL last year.

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:27.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what anybody else says. Watch the games.

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 3>The Raiders were by far the worst offensive line. They

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.359
<v Speaker 3>went and got Tyler Linderbaum. You get Colton Miller back.

0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 3>That's great. You didn't rebuild the entire group. I still

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of concerns about that. Defensively, it's like

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 3>a hodgepodge of guys. You're like, oh, I could see

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 3>that working. I could see that working. Oh you went

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 3>and got the Georgia Bulldogs at linebacker, Nacobe Dean and

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Kuay Walker.

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Hey it's Quitty pay, Hey it's Eric Stokes. It's a

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 3>bunch of names that I recognized. Is it going to

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:48.720
<v Speaker 3>come together?

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, we'll see.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>They have I totally agree about as many questions as

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.280
<v Speaker 1>any team. I think their floor is probably a little

0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>higher than the Jets where things could could go wrong.

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But we're just picking knits here as we wrap up

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a couple of just minor injury items.

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I did want to know.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>That one of the dolphins best defensive lineman, Zach Seelers,

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:11.399
<v Speaker 1>is week to week now.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the last thing they need is to hurt

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:14.360
<v Speaker 2>their depth.

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>A Meccha Abuka left practice on Wednesday, so that's an

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>injury that we will be tracking. I mentioned the Bosa injury.

0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Will also be watching forty nine ers practice and this

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>leads to just something I wanted to do. I don't

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>know if anyone else cares, but we're we're gonna declare

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a winner. Chook first for your power rankings. You won,

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, first ever time doing it. Great job on that.

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It was fun going through it. We'll do it throughout

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the season at various points. But you're gonna have your

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>own show that we'll talk about in about a month,

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, as the regular season gets going.

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 2>But for joint.

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Practices over the last couple of days, Bucks Jets clear

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>win for the Bucks. The Bucks are one to zero

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and joint practice season despite the Abuka injury. All reports

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on the ground were Baker Mayfield fitness very strong, the

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Jets offense erratic at best Bucks defense carries the day

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Bucks offense does enough to win big first week joint

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>practice victory for Tampa Colts Pats. It felt like a draw.

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Everyone said offenses won for both teams. There's a lot

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of injuries for the Patriots defense right now. But in

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the end, I'm gonna have to give the win to

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the Colts because the very last play of practice in

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the hurry up drill after the Colts scored in their

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.240
<v Speaker 1>hurry up drill was a Drake may interception cam bying

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>them back and healthy again for the Colts. Colts with

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a big upset road victory in Foxborough forty nine Ers

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Titans sounded like the most one sided joint practice of

0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the week. Despite all the injuries. Brock Purdy was slanging

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it out there. Forty nine ers get to win there

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>one to zero in joint practice season, the Titans with

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a disappointing loss, although reportedly their offense was was okay,

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like they weren't making big mistakes. They weren't just they

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just weren't doing a lot. But their defense got hammered apparently,

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and then the Rams and Cowboys. Depending on who you

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>asked here, sounded like it was very close. Surprisingly was

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the opposite shook of Rams patriots, I mean Rams colts.

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>It was the defenses on both sides that just consistently

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>won and that the offenses were struggling. Now, Puka Nakua

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>left practice. That's not great, but overall it sounds like

0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the level of dominance from the Rams defense was actually higher.

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:31.439
<v Speaker 1>The Rams defense is beating the Rams offense pretty regularly too,

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And so I asked multiple people, including NFL Daily correspondent

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Freelan, who was there. She gave the edge to

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. I'm gonna give it to the Rams as well.

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>They get the victory tight one though, good sign for

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys that it was back and forth. So those

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 1>are your joint practice wins and losses for the week.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I love the idea of the Cowboys defense keeping up

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 3>with the Rams offense. That lads really well for Dallas.

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Now Puka left. You know, they hit a couple deep

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 1>throws apparently to Devonte Early. You know, there were some

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>people thought maybe then they kind of laid off the gas,

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like and then Pooka leaves with an injury

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't help. But that's why I also kind of

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:08.680
<v Speaker 1>gave it to the Rams defense because if you're if

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you're holding down a healthy Cowboys offense, that is a

1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>good sign. And their defense has been playing well at camp.

1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to check out their preseason game two because look,

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.600
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of starters playing throughout the NFL.

1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a new thing, shook. Not only are more starters

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.840
<v Speaker 1>playing a little bit lately, a lot of them are

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 1>playing in week one of the preseasons. So like Joe

1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Burrow to a tongueo Bay Loa, Like, we're gonna see

1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:34.160
<v Speaker 1>some some good starters in week one of the preseason.

1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And well also see a lot of Ty Simpson for

1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the Rams, which I'm I'm curious to watch their first

1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>round pick because you know, you gotta keep Stetson Bennett healthy.

1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to play him at all.

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just gonna be all Ti Simpson all the time.

1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Stetson's too important. Pressure makes diamonds or something. Yeah, yes, sure,

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so I mentioned the preseason games. Nick Schuok and I

1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>will be with you hit that music on Thursday evening

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to come hang out with us live.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been fun. We take your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be at seven pm Pacific, ten pm Eastern, and

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<v Speaker 1>that will be in your ears overnight, our final show

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. We'll also do some news as well

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<v Speaker 1>as recapping those preseason games.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll cook up something fun. We'll see again