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Speaker 1: tuck down, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces?

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty, right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared and nobody

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Speaker 1: here's Paul Calvc. Well, I'm not sure what our game

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Speaker 1: plan looks like. There's really no excuse why it can't

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Speaker 1: be the best game plan we've ever seen here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. Sort of like what Kyler Murray said about

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Speaker 1: the game plan after. It wasn't just beat La, it

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Speaker 1: was beat down LA, Cardinals coming off a win in

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Speaker 1: the stadium that will host the super Bowl, super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty six. I believe, and I do believe as well,

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Speaker 1: that Cardinals look like a legit Super Bowl contender? Can

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Speaker 1: I say that after one month and four games? Here

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Speaker 1: Darren urban Scoff's Felipe Corral Junior wants to say something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just given how last year ended, I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit you know, I hold off a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This is the this is the man who said last

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Speaker 1: week that that this Sunday game was a must win.

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Speaker 1: It was exactly, but but how do you say that

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Speaker 1: was a must win? And now you're gonna be timid

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Speaker 1: about talking. I'm not gonna say there you just walk

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Speaker 1: out on the on the game. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those things where I started having flashbacks of last year

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Speaker 1: how they started as one of the top offenses in

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Speaker 1: the league, and then you know how that ended. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a must win in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, they won, and let's just see how they

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Speaker 1: move forward. Unless your game plan, Phelipe, is to be

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Speaker 1: the contrarian, is that your game plan a week to

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Speaker 1: week your underground Kyle's seat, so right, the only thing missing,

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Speaker 1: The only thing missing would be the words I disagree,

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Speaker 1: because I can still hear the words I disagree ring

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Speaker 1: into my head from Kyle and all those You're spent

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Speaker 1: doing this podcast with someone who never agreed with virtually

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Speaker 1: anything I said. The reality is, Paul, I mean, Felipe

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Speaker 1: is right. As much as that pains me to say, wow, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait one more time, one more time. It's a little

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Speaker 1: early to be talking about super Bowl contenders, and there's

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Speaker 1: there's a lot they can go into that we might

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Speaker 1: want to start this podcast again. You want to do

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Speaker 1: a take two? Or should we keep rolling it? It's

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Speaker 1: really too early for anyone to Felippe is right. I'm

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Speaker 1: discombobulated by having that giant cartoon pass over your head, Paul,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can't get away from it now. It's

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Speaker 1: ubiquitous that Dave pashpod is ubiquitous. It's it's everywhere, including

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Speaker 1: Dave's mug and glasses he really doesn't wear. How Dave

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Speaker 1: end up with glasses? He doesn't wear glasses in real life.

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Speaker 1: We should have a spelling me. Would you just say

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Speaker 1: I mean, bulls should be wearing the glasses because he

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Speaker 1: can't even read the menu. We go out to dinner,

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Speaker 1: in denial. Dude, bring your reading glasses that I better

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Speaker 1: bad was it, Paul pencil Neck that the Cardinals turned

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Speaker 1: the seventh inning up that win. You witnessed it, Darren.

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Speaker 1: There they were. In fact, there were the Cardinal players

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Speaker 1: It was a really an amazing performance all the way

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Speaker 1: they kept teams out of the end zone. Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: and the fact and if you make them kick field

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Speaker 1: I felt like that was like a double deflating play

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Speaker 1: the Rams. And if you want deflating, how about double

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Speaker 1: dog deflating would be third and sixteen and Kyler running

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of being in pain and giving

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't thirty seven and thirteen look better than thirty seven

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Speaker 1: I think, not just kidding, but thirty seven thirteen would

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Speaker 1: you know, nasty hit on Cooper Cup. I mean, heading

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Speaker 1: you know, why is Matthew Stafford so inaccurate when when

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Speaker 1: the fact that they made him so uncomfortable, given that

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Speaker 1: the questions that they they're always there's always around that

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Speaker 1: one of my biggest hickaways. The headline I saw was

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Speaker 1: The other headline I was thinking for Cooper Cup instead

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Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Thompson. He was a high school star

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Speaker 1: stood on all that since the day walked in the door.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we should just have Kyle tweet at Wolf

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Speaker 1: like I told you so, you're three years late, big

429
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Speaker 1: guy who was the guy who was going to the

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Speaker 1: future of football tick talk in February before the draft itself.

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's also true. But I also kind of

432
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: feel like you're all about the slogan sometimes. I see,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going we can talk about I Andy if

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Speaker 1: you want fleeting. I mean, but would you set a

435
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Speaker 1: beat la beat down la please? I was just the

436
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: same thing. I was just gonna say, do you guys

437
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Speaker 1: think that that was like it was Cliff Keensbray's best

438
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: game as a as a play caller? But when you

439
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Speaker 1: get would you guys go as far to say it

440
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: was kind of Murray's best game as a quarterback on

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00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: the center. I mean, no interceptions after having at least

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Speaker 1: one in the first three games. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: picking apart that defense that I mean heading into the season,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people said it was the best defense

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. You saw what they did to the

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Speaker 1: Bucks in Week three. But just I mean the third

447
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: and sixteen run, the third and fourteen run, and then

448
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: everything he did from the pocket. I will I will

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Speaker 1: say this number one. Statistically, the Rams still have great

450
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Speaker 1: personnel but they came into the game twentieth I think

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Speaker 1: in total defense. So it's not like they've been playing

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Speaker 1: like they were last year. That doesn't excuse anything. I'm

453
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Speaker 1: just saying that they just weren't at that level statistically.

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Speaker 1: They're still very scary. The fact that Aaron Donald was

455
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: was basically, I can't believe, I'm gonna say this out loud,

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Speaker 1: a non factor. Uh in a lot of ways, especially

457
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Speaker 1: after they made whatever adjustments they had to at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the game. Uh, in terms of protection. But um, yeah,

459
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: there were a lot of combo blocks. Um well, we're

460
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: not gonna be stupid. It's not like Aaron Donald isn't great.

461
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Speaker 1: You just figure out a way to neutralize him a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Although Leonard Young, Wow, he was eating in

463
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Speaker 1: the first half. Then they had to figure that out

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Speaker 1: at halftime. Leonard Floyd, I'm sorry, Leonard Floyd. Yes, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know it's fifty four. But but going back to

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Speaker 1: the original question, here's here's what I thought, Filippe of

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in that game. I kind of see bits

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Speaker 1: and pieces of it, and I wanted to see what

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Speaker 1: happened the first possession of the second half. After those

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Speaker 1: first three games throwing the picks. But I will say this,

471
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Speaker 1: and I tweeted this during the game. His numbers were fantastic,

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Speaker 1: but it was the way he was handling himself, uh,

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Speaker 1: pre snap and in the huddle and at the line.

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Speaker 1: I I felt like that game was the first game

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Speaker 1: where they had and I won't use the bad word

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Speaker 1: even though we're just podcasting, where they had the offense

477
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: totally had their stuff together. There was no like calling

478
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Speaker 1: timeouts because you're not having the right personal I felt

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00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: like the way he looked pre snap just comfortable with

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Speaker 1: what I'm about to do, which is kind of an intangible.

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Speaker 1: I thought that gave off as much of a vibe

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Speaker 1: as anything he actually performed. Then you throw in all

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Speaker 1: the other stuff, the incredible Kyler stuff, the running for

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Speaker 1: the first down, the crazy side arm pasted Rondale, meant

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Speaker 1: more on third and fourteen when it looked like he

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Speaker 1: was gonna run and then stays behind the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: It was exquisite in so many ways. And I that's

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Speaker 1: why I feel like that was at this point the

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Speaker 1: APEX game for Kyler Murray, because I just felt the

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Speaker 1: whole vibe that he delivered including who he was playing against,

491
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Speaker 1: and making the right decisions and not taking any cliff

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Speaker 1: talks about protecting the ball. There were no stupid decisions.

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Speaker 1: Everything he everything he did was intelligent and I you know,

494
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Speaker 1: not that he's not an intelligent player, but he made

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Speaker 1: all the intelligent decisions. I just that's that's the one

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Speaker 1: I put up on the scoreboard as his best because

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Speaker 1: of all that. You had me at the word exquisite.

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Speaker 1: That's like a Food Network word right there, you know,

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Speaker 1: exquisite kiss. Yeah, you know, divine something like that. That's

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Speaker 1: but you know, by the way, can I just say

501
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Speaker 1: something on that Rondale Moore where he caught it in

502
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Speaker 1: the right flat and made Jalen Ramsey miss in space.

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Speaker 1: That was another moment where the Cardinal sideline thoroughly enjoyed

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Speaker 1: it because Number five had been mouthing off to the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals sideline most of the game, and you know what,

506
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: he'd been backing it up. Yeah, and at that moment

507
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: he got schooled in space by Rondelle Moore, and the

508
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Speaker 1: entire Cardinals sideline lit up and let him hear about it.

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Speaker 1: And uh, he was. You could see the steam coming

510
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Speaker 1: out the year holes of his helmet. He was fuming

511
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Speaker 1: at that point. Jalen Ramsey, who's a heck of a

512
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Speaker 1: player him, he was not one on one with hop

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Speaker 1: all the time. When he was, it was tough sledding

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Speaker 1: for hops But like I said earlier, the car, whether

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Speaker 1: whether it was the Rams moving Ramsey around or where

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Speaker 1: they were doing with Hopkins. And we actually saw Hopkins

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Speaker 1: on the right side a couple of times. They had

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Speaker 1: him open enough. Like for all the good that Ramsey

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Speaker 1: did against Hopkins, and I noticed in some of the

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Speaker 1: nitty gritty times Ramsey's like I got to when they

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Speaker 1: got down near the goal line. When on that one

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Speaker 1: sequence where I think they had kicked a field goal

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Speaker 1: down on our end of the field and they were

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Speaker 1: close and it was after the penalty that got him

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Speaker 1: the first down. I think maybe at the end of

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Speaker 1: the first half, Ramsey went right over to Hopkins. It

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Speaker 1: was all over Ramsey. We were near the goal line,

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Speaker 1: Ramsey was gonna jam him and and d hop didn't

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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of chance there. I just think

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Speaker 1: it comes down to, you know, Kylie May, He's always

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Speaker 1: been a winner, and one of my friends always tells me,

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Speaker 1: you know, winners win stars. Are gonna put like stars

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Speaker 1: and heading into that week, I said on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: I mean for the Cardinals to come out of it

535
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Speaker 1: with the victory in LA, your biggest star, Kyler Murray

536
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Speaker 1: was going to have to play like a star, and

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00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: he did. I mean credit exactly. That's honestly my only

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Speaker 1: pitch that this is the only reason I say these things,

539
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: just so I can hear Paul or Darren say you

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Speaker 1: know what you're right. You did say this kind of

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Speaker 1: like and during the during training camp when Anton Wesley

542
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: made the team, I think that's the first time you

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00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: said you know what you're right. But at the end

544
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Speaker 1: of the day, I mean, Kyler Murry was gonna have

545
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Speaker 1: to play like a superstar. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: third time. I'm three and now you know, I'm imagining

547
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: the little tally at home. But he had to play

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Speaker 1: like a star and he did. I think we're at

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Speaker 1: a point in these first four weeks where one can

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Speaker 1: make the argument that Kyler Murray is a top three

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. He's he's in that category with

552
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, with Tom Brady. Now what is he going

553
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Speaker 1: to do in the second half of the season Compared

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Speaker 1: to last year. That's ultimately going to decide if he

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Speaker 1: is considered one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL,

556
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: because if in the second half of the season he

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00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: continues to play this way and he adapts the defenses

558
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: because we saw that last year defense is adapted to

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00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: him scrambling and running out of the pocket, and if

560
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: he manages to adapt then continues to be consistent in

561
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: the pocket. I mean, there's no reason why he doesn't

562
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: come out of the season being the MVP. We can't

563
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: even say we were not. We can't talk about half

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Speaker 1: with the season. We're not even a quarter of the

565
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: way of the season. We have to have the discussion

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Speaker 1: after the first quarter Sunday, and then we'll be through

567
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Speaker 1: a quarter of the season. I see, you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: your quarter awards after the first quarter on Sundays. Have

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to start dicing up these games because seventeen games, because

570
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we have that one extra game

571
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: we got to throw in there, right, because there's a

572
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: lot of you know, NFL content providers who do the

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00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: quarter pole awards exactly, So what the second the first

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Speaker 1: half of the season is actually going to end after

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Speaker 1: what halftime see hashtag nomat. That's why we just well,

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00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: once again, your point on DeAndre Hopkins moving to the

577
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: right side, which we saw once in Jacksonville, don't quote

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00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: me on that if that was the only time. I

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00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: believe it was once in Jacksonville, and we all reacted, Hey, look,

580
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, look at that kids, Big Ben. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: there there's d Hop and and he's over on the

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Speaker 1: right side. I mean, honestly, it's uh and there he is.

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Speaker 1: So now here's my question, because I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out the answer to the mystery that we referenced earlier.

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00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: Why did Kyler Murray refer to this as the best

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Speaker 1: game plan since he's been in the league. Well, I'll

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00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: throw out a theory, conspiracy theory. You know, I'm good

588
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: for these. A couple of weeks earlier, when de hop

589
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: had been contained after a pretty robust first quarter I

590
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: think it was Minnesota, right, he came out and said, well,

591
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: we have to move d Hop around. So now, because

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00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: d Hop is getting moved around, is he putting one

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00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: and one together? That equals why he's calling it the

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00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: best game plan? Is that his tacit approval thumbs up,

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: double thumbs up. This the best game plan since of

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00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: in here. Because de hob is now moving around a

597
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: little bit a little bit, I'm just trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out why, how, why? What makes him proclaim this the

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00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: best game plan. There's a somebody asked me that question

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00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: this week. They're like, we're glad the reporters noticed that

601
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: he said best game plan and asked him about it,

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00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: even though he wouldn't say why. I mean, look, what's

603
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: a game plan. There's two parts to a game plan.

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Speaker 1: There's the actual plays that you write up that you

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00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: have in your plan to use at some point, and

606
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: then the other part is the philosophy you're having coming

607
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: into the game. And you know, was it to move

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: hop around? Maybe part of that was it? Maybe it

609
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: was we want to beat on this defensive line enough

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Speaker 1: early in the game that we can do something. Because

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Speaker 1: of course Kyler is saying this after the fact. Maybe

612
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: that ninety four yard rushing drive played into it. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: The third part of a game plan workings got to

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Speaker 1: be execution. You can think you have the game plan,

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00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: the best game plan in the world. If Kyler comes

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Speaker 1: out and throws three interceptions, he's not going to say, well,

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: that was the best game plan in the world. I

618
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: just threw three interceptions. He's just not going to say

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00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: we had a great game plan. So it's I think

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00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: some of it is just what they wanted to do

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00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: coming together maybe is why it was the best game plan. Now,

622
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: maybe the hot part is part of it. But you

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Speaker 1: go back and look at that, guys, I mean, is

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: there was there a part of the game when you

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: were all said and done for real and not like

626
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: picking it a scab, that you would look at that

627
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: game and say, yeah, I didn't really like that part

628
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: of their game. Well, there was the Carolina game plan

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00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: last year when they seemed to go laterally. That's true

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00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: more than vertically, where even that would have not been

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Speaker 1: a good game. Where even Pauli Pencilnecker, never played past

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00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: high cool high school, could sit there and say, yeah,

633
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about this strategy right against this defense.

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00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: That was maybe the only instance I can think of immediately,

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Speaker 1: is I correct the quo by the way, the Chevy

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Speaker 1: Chase quote from your vacation was look kids, big Ben Parliament.

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Speaker 1: I forgot the Parliament's side of that, so that was

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00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, I just googled that. Also, you know, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: I looked at myself because that was bugging me. I

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Speaker 1: knew that was I was a partial quote right there,

641
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: so I couldn't. I was giving you all the credit world, Paul. So,

642
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: by the way, uh, didn't Larry Fitzgerald, the newest NFL analyst,

643
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: have something to say about Kyler's play And it's what

644
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: some other guys have cited as well, just his ability

645
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: to make the checks of the line. Wasn't that just

646
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: of what Larry said and getting the Cardinals into the

647
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: right plays, run plays versus past place he started to

648
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: miss it and check it other other than saying that

649
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the front runner for MVP, which is

650
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: what said. But yeah, I mean he did say those things.

651
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: It's funny when you talk about checking plays and being comfortable.

652
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to Justin Pugh this week and I

653
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: was talking to him about the Chase Edmonds play, and

654
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: which was third and seven? Was third and seven and

655
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: they're deep in their own territory, and they're deep in

656
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: their own territory, and the Cardinals called a pass and

657
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: the Rams were playing pass and Kyler noticed it and

658
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of made eye contact with Chase and checked out

659
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: of it. To the run and there you could drive

660
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: a mack truck through that. So, I mean when you

661
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: talk about icing a game, when you talk about what

662
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: you were saying before Philippe about Kyler's maturity and leadership

663
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: and how he's handling things. Third and seven, chance to

664
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: ice the game if you can get a couple of

665
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: first downs, but you're sitting at your own four yard

666
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: line at third and seven. It wasn't just third and seven,

667
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: it was at your own four yard line third and seven,

668
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and you have the stones to check in to a

669
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: run knowing if you don't get the first down, you're

670
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: punting and they're going to get the ball around midfield,

671
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: and you recognize it enough that it breaks for fifty

672
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: four yard run. I mean, that's that's just smart quarterback.

673
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Buy a smart quarterback. So he made the checkdown and

674
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: he called it the best game plan. Well again, when

675
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: you talk about game plan and see, this is why

676
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: the game plan thing is so funky to me, is

677
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: because when you say we had a great game plan,

678
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: there's a vagueness to it. For me. I mean, you

679
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: can't there. You don't go into a game. There's too

680
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: many moving parts. You don't go into a game saying

681
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: on the first play, we're calling this. On the second player,

682
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: we're calling this, and when we get to the fourth quarter,

683
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: on the forty second player, we're calling this. It doesn't

684
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: work that way. So a game plan is got vagueness

685
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: to it based on how the game goes based I mean,

686
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: if it was a three point game at that point,

687
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: do things change or the rams change? It is momentum,

688
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's all these things. So when he says

689
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: we had the best game plan ever, it's a very

690
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: overarching type of thing that I think comes down to

691
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, calling plays that put your

692
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: guys in the best positions cliche is all that, but

693
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: the guy's executing it. If AJ Green doesn't catch that bomb,

694
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: everybody he's like, well, why don't you throw to d

695
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: hop Which I saw a film. I think Peter Schrager

696
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: broke down the play again on the All twenty two

697
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: looking at the Cardinals, you know, towards Kyler Murray, and

698
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: he had DeAndre Hopkins wide open for a first down

699
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: on that play, wide open the shot, and he took

700
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: the shot down field. If AJ Green doesn't make that catch,

701
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: everybody's like, what are we doing? Why are you know,

702
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: why are you not picking up first downs? So execution

703
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: plays a huge part in this whole great game plan thing.

704
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. Here's my other here's my other contention.

705
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: Why Kyler thinks this is the best game plan ever.

706
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Number one, they're moving d hop around two is liking

707
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: Number two. Only one designed run for Kyler, according to

708
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, That's what Chase Edmonds said after the game.

709
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with this one with you. And Kyler is

710
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: not a big fan of the design runs. He's made

711
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: that clear from the get go, from his rookie year

712
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: that he does feel like his legs quote should be

713
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: a luxury and to me sell them a bonus is

714
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a bonus. And I've said this repeatally. Yes,

715
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I agree, that's where this offense is at. It's most

716
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: lethal when you have a balanced offense like you did

717
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: in La plus that third dimension of Kyler's legs, you

718
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: can pull it and run it all third and sixteen.

719
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: When he runs for eighteen and he breaks the back

720
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: of a defense, that's the third rail, that's the third dimension.

721
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: That's what makes them a potential number one offense in

722
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: this league. And maybe That's another concrete reason why Kyler

723
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: called it the best game plan since he's been in

724
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: the league. It's just a complete cheek code. I think

725
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: he finally figured it out right. Once you become patient

726
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: in the pocket and you're effective from there, now everything

727
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of opens up for that offense. As a defense.

728
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you think you have this offense on, you know,

729
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: against the wall, and then it's thirty and sixteen and

730
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: your quarterback just scrambles for eighteen yards. Their quarterback just

731
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: scrambles for eighteen yards. I mean, how do you contain that?

732
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest difference between him and

733
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: guys like Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick in his time, Cam

734
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: Newton to an extent, to them, their legs where they

735
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: go to right, there is a bunch of design runs.

736
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: There is a bunch of design runs for Lamar Jackson,

737
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: and it's the opposite for Kyler Mary. That's why it

738
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, it annoys me to an extent

739
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: when a lot of these national experts or anyone that

740
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: talks about Kyler Mary, they always always mentioned how he's

741
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: so dangerous with his legs, without realizing that a lot

742
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: of the times it's not even by design, it's just

743
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: him improvising, and they leave out the fact that, again, yeah,

744
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: they are the top offense, but they're also one of

745
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: the top passing offenses in the NFL. He has one

746
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: of the top completion percentages in the NFL, and they

747
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: leave out that aspect. And that's why I think he

748
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: separates himself himself from guys like Lamar Jackson, Daniel Jones

749
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: to an extent as well Cam Newton, Michael Vick. I

750
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: think he's in a different league. There's, like they say,

751
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: there's levels to this. I mean, when you can be

752
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: just as effective on the ground, then you can be

753
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: through the air, that's levels. That's I'm teaching you, guys

754
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: something or you or you or you're just channeling. You're

755
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: in our Cosmo creamer. But who is that? I see?

756
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that everything comes around again.

757
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I agree with you on the

758
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: running thing. With Kyler. I do think he loves the

759
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: fact that, Okay, I'm gonna scramble, I'm not gonna not run,

760
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: but I don't want any of these design runs unless

761
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: it's right on the goal line, like a boot or something.

762
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Like that. I mean the Cardinals had what one hundred

763
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: and seventy yards rushing between Connor and Chase Edmonds? Yeah,

764
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: right there, I mean two sixteen total. That's not the

765
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: area code in LA. That's the Cardinals rushing total, two sixteen.

766
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Connor had fifty and two touchdowns. I think Chase Edmonds

767
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: at one hundred and twenty. I think if you're getting

768
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: one hundred seventy rushing yards and you're not even including

769
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: what Kyler did and again that you don't want to

770
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: take that away. I don't know if you guys saw

771
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: Olms sent around the video of the dude in LA

772
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: taking the picture of or taking the video of that

773
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: third and eighteen or third and sixteen scramblefore eighteen yards

774
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: right down that sideline. You help. You have a couple

775
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: of rams fans yelling out f bombs as he breaks

776
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: away because the crowd goes all crazy, He's gonna get trapped,

777
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: and then you realize or we're screwed in by the way,

778
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: quick aside, DeAndre Hopkins fantabulous blocking down field to keep

779
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: the defensive back from coming up and letting Kyler easily

780
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: get in there by beating the linebackers. There was a

781
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: dB who could have come up and DeAndre Hopkins was

782
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: not letting him pass. So props to DeAndre Hopkins on

783
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: that blocking um. But did not see that. That's great.

784
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: And I like the use of the word fantabulous. That's

785
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: right up there with you us. So I mean, I think,

786
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: I think that part of it is such a huge

787
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: thing and and I I can't get past again the

788
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: original point, Paul, which is Kyler does not he does

789
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: not want to be known as running quarterback. Doesn't run,

790
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: don't want to run. He's he will run. He see

791
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't even like saying he'll run. He will scramble.

792
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: He wants to be able to scramble if there's a

793
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: broken play. But I don't think he really wants to run. Run.

794
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: But for everything the Cardinals did, if you went into

795
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: the locker room and start talking to guys, and I'm curious,

796
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: did justin pu stare you down and say, where's the

797
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: mention of the run game at acy Cardinals dot com?

798
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what, that's where a lot of

799
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: those guys on both sides of the ball would start.

800
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Because nothing makes a statement in the NFL like the

801
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: pound game, which is what the old lineman call it,

802
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: the pound game. We're gonna run it. What are you

803
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? We're gonna run it again and again,

804
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: and you're gonna know it's coming and you're not going

805
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: to be able to stop it. And that's what the

806
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals did in the second half. To be fair, I

807
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: don't I'll let you. Oh, I know, I'm dominating the

808
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: conversation right now, Pollie base, I'm the rickie. You know,

809
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: I respect my vets, But I was gonna say, you

810
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: said Justin in talking to Justin pu he had every

811
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: opportunity there to mention that to me and he didn't,

812
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: So props to him. Now, Now, we were in a

813
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: press conference a couple of weeks ago where an unfortunate

814
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: media member decided to just ask the general question about

815
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: the run game being better this year than it really

816
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that good last year, something like that, and Justin

817
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: Peu took an exception to that and kind of like

818
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: pushed back a little bit, much to the chagrin of

819
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: the person that asked the question. But Justin was perfectly

820
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: nice to me and answering great questions. And the other

821
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: problem too, is on the sideline in the locker room.

822
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: They might have been very hype with the Pound game.

823
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: You ask him now after the fact, they're going to

824
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: be very careful. They got to play the Rams again

825
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: this season. They're not going to come out and say, oh, yeah,

826
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: we kicked their ass up and down the field. That's

827
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: not going to happen. I think everyone outside of the team,

828
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: all the fans and wenot, I think they're the ones

829
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: that are excited. Because did you guys hear what Kylie

830
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Murray said in his press conference when they asked him

831
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: about I think to ask him about having a monkey

832
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: on his back or whatnot, and he said something along

833
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: the lines of, this isn't the super Bowl, you know,

834
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, I understand why a lot

835
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: of people were hyped about that win because obviously the

836
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: cards are eight and oh when they faced McVeigh leading

837
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: up to week four, n yeah, you said the cards

838
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: were eight. The cards are definitely not you read my

839
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: mind zero, Nate or whatever. Eight game losing shit stand

840
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: against McVay. But the fact that Kylie recognized that this

841
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: this was just another game. But what I liked in

842
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: the second half I went back, uh and I made

843
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: a tally of how many times Kyler Murray threw the

844
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: ball in the second half, and I honestly, I am

845
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: confident in this number. He threw the ball eight times

846
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: in the second half. And then that final scoring drive

847
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: that James Connor second touchdown, they ran the ball by

848
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: design ten times, and and I believe Kylie scrambled on

849
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: two of those twelve plays. So as an offensive lineman,

850
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I asked forland Arizon Oncarno's offensive lineman, you know what

851
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: was your favorite part about being in offensive lineman? And

852
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: He's just said, you know, running the ball, because at

853
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: that point you don't have to contain any defensive lineman,

854
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: protecting quarterback and whatnot. You just do your job and

855
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the rest of it comes with this. So that run game,

856
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I think if you're able to establish that that, in

857
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's the biggest defence this year, just being

858
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: dominant on the ground Because to me, if you're Raheem Morris,

859
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: the Rams defensive coordinator, and you're driving home and you're

860
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: stuck in traffic, yes even on a Sunday on the

861
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: one on one or the four oh five, and you're

862
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: stuck in traffic, you're muttering yourself two sixteen. There's only

863
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: so much you can do on God's Green Earth about

864
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and him scrambling. There's only so much you

865
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: can do. But I've got a defense that was number

866
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: one in total d a year ago. I have Aaron

867
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Donald and we just gave up two sixteen. And Kyler

868
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: really wasn't a factor in the run game. It was

869
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: Jase Edmonds, it was James Conner. It was two more

870
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns for James Connor with a couple more angry

871
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: he runs selling up an NFL network again, how about

872
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: that Chase Edmonds spin and stiff arm. At the same time,

873
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: he wants one of those T shirts. He sees James

874
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Conner with one of those angry run T shirts, he

875
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: wants one of his own. I bet you've asked him.

876
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: He'd say, yeah, we got to ask him that coming up.

877
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: So to me, that's where you do set a tone

878
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: in the game, and that's the kind of thing you

879
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: can rely on. That's back in the day when the

880
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals would go up to Seattle and BA would go

881
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: twenty two or twenty three double two dozen times, and

882
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: that's how they would control Russell Wilson. So if you

883
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: have the ability to throw it, your quarterback is ability

884
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: to run it. You have the ability to line up

885
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: and run it, whether they like it or not. And

886
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: you're going with three tight end sets, you're going with empty,

887
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: five wide receiver sets, anything and everything in between. Now

888
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: you're working in a tight end screen. I mean, if

889
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: you're the forty nine ers right now, you're trying to

890
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: get a tendency once again, And that's where I threw

891
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: this stat. Okay, the stat want all these guys with

892
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: between fifteen and twenty catches, and there's a half dozen

893
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: of them tendencies. What does defensive coordinator look at? In

894
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury goes tendencies And I'm trying to scout this team,

895
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: who's their go to guy? Good luck? And so it's

896
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: sort of what I would say right now to the

897
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: people run in some of the power polls as we

898
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: transition here on the Pacific Office Automation sponsor Cardinals Underground,

899
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Sports Illustrated, should not be

900
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: proud of their power rankings. Can we just say that

901
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: right now? I mean, let me get this straight. You guys,

902
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: stop me when I'm wrong. The Sports Illustrator power pole

903
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at right here is either so inept

904
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: or maybe it's corrupt. I don't know. I mean, maybe

905
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: it's done on purpose for clicks. I don't know how

906
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: it works behind the scenes, Darren, you tell me in

907
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: the website world. Maybe this was actually printed in Sports Illustrated,

908
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: the hard copy, the printed magazine, and it was actually

909
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: filed before the game was ever played. Maybe that's the

910
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: only rational explanation to have the Rams who got dominated

911
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: still number one, even though the team that troutsd them

912
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: is the only undefeated team in the NFL well and

913
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: took out another Super Bowl contender in Week one, And

914
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: then the team the Rams beat the week before is

915
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: still number two, ahead of the Cardinals. But the team

916
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: that beat the Rams is somehow below both the Rams

917
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: and the Bucks. I mean, did you know who John

918
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: McEnroe was Phelippe before the Venus Williams commercial. Did you

919
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: see the John McEnroe cameo and the Venus Williams TV

920
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: commercial whatever that is, And he's in the white tennis

921
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: outfit Williams, and he has he has the spill that

922
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about right and he

923
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: goes and he goes and I've seen that commercial. Who

924
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: is his famous line? Because he would go on rants

925
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: and he would you know, he had this anger issue

926
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: right in playing tennis and you're going a rant to

927
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: the to the judge and he would say, you know,

928
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: you cannot be serious. Well, how can you look at

929
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: this power poll and not go into some sort of

930
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: John McEnroe rant. I mean, come on now, you cannot

931
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: be serious. I know. I love how you came to

932
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: me to make sure that I knew who this tennis player.

933
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know, but it's just it's flattering to

934
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: me that you double check with me first. To me,

935
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: you don't know Venus Williams or Serena sisters, but I

936
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: just didn't know the guy that you mentioned at the

937
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: beginning of that commission. But do you guys think it's

938
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: a market thing? You know, you have power rankings? I mean,

939
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't because like the woman who

940
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: does the Sports Illustrated Power Rankings, she's covered the NFL

941
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: for a number of years and she's a good reporter. Um,

942
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm I was surprised at that. But what what's the upside.

943
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: What's the upside for having a what's the upside of

944
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: having a credible power poll? Is that what you're What's

945
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: what's what's the upside of of market being the part

946
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: of the power rankings? I just feel like, I mean,

947
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: even after that marketing size, is that what you're saying.

948
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: I thought you're saying marketing. You're saying the marketing. It's

949
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: just like the market aspect of the I don't. I

950
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's I don't think that's impacting the

951
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: power poles. I think ultimately it comes down to people

952
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: are having a hard time really believing stuff. I don't.

953
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: I can't. What is it hard to believe? Though? You're

954
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: not going to get an argument for me? I mean, ultimately,

955
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: I would think that I would understand if somebody doesn't

956
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: want to put the Cardinals number one. I do not

957
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: understand how you would have the Rams above the Cardinals

958
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: at this point after beating him in the LA. I mean,

959
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have a better record and they just beat

960
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: them head to head. I'm sorry, convincingly, I'm not really

961
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: sure how you would do that. Don't don't look at

962
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: me for an exclamation. I'm the guy who's contending it's

963
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: no compreendo through and through. I mean, I have no

964
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: idea it's incomprehensible. It's more impressive as three of those

965
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: four games where are on the road. You know, you

966
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: start off the season against a for the most part

967
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: healthy Titans team and you you know, demolish them on

968
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: the road, and then you travel to LA and you

969
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: demolish them in the LA. It's not like you pulled

970
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: out a cheap win on a hill. Mary. You know,

971
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: if you to say, okay, after the Cardinals beat the

972
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Bills last year year and the hail Murray and what

973
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: exactly are the Cardinals all about? I get it. That's

974
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: why I said, Mike get size is probably a thing

975
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: because I mean, just in general across sports, I mean,

976
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: who was really talking about the Suns last year? No one.

977
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean just I just think it comes back to that,

978
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: not that many people necessarily tune into, you know, the Cardinals,

979
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: maybe even at a national scale, and you don't necessarily

980
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: see them talking about them up to Week four obviously,

981
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: after that impressive victory. For me, Okay, they did get

982
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: this win, that's great. If they win this week, I mean,

983
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna build on itself for four games into the season.

984
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you continue to play really good football,

985
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: I promise you by mid season, everybody's gonna be talking

986
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: about the Cardinals all the time. And I do think

987
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of twenty twenty hangover with some

988
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: of this, because they were five and two and six

989
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: and three at one point last year and they fell

990
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth, and you're gonna have

991
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: to get back people. In terms of some of it,

992
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: I believe this is a completely different kind of team.

993
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: But I understand why people would be hesitant to say that.

994
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: It's the old axiom about how guys don't make the

995
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl the first year they should, and they usually

996
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: make the one more Pro Bowl than they should on

997
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: the back end, because people are nom It's just like

998
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: why people still think the Steelers could be a good

999
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: team even though they're not. No, somebody put together a

1000
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: montage of the missed receivers by Big Ben. Did you

1001
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: see that? Oh my goodness, is he playing horrendous football

1002
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: right now? And you're probably right there, And that's probably

1003
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: the most plausible explanation you can get based on the

1004
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: taste the Cardinals left in everyone's mouth. At the end

1005
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: of last year, losing five of the last seven. People

1006
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: are refusing to believe. That's probably the best explanation, because honestly,

1007
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: it got worse. This writer, I'm looking at it right now.

1008
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: The writer goes on to explains the Sports Illustrated. Sports Illustrated.

1009
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: The writer explains or site sites the Seahawks start last

1010
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: year that it reminds this writer of the Seahawks start

1011
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: last year and how they flamed out. Well, here's the difference,

1012
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: and it's a significant difference. The Seahawks had a bad defense,

1013
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: historically bad defense. The Cardinals don't have anything near the

1014
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: terrible defense the Seahawks had a year ago. So you

1015
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: gotta separate. You gotta separate the apple from the orange

1016
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: in this one and stopped grouping them together, you know.

1017
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: And besides, when you get in, let me tell you

1018
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: at this point, here's the stat in the NFC West.

1019
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: As the Cardinals get ready for the forty nine ers,

1020
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: it's the four straight season in which the NFC West

1021
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: team an NFC West team is the last undefeated team

1022
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: in the conference. Wow. Four straight and four straight years.

1023
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: It's the NFC West that has had the last undefeated

1024
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: team in the conference and it's been a different team

1025
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: all four years. That's amazing. That's remarkable, remarkable. It shows

1026
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: you the depth and what's going on in the division. So, look,

1027
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be playoff ready by the end of game seventeen.

1028
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: If you get through this division, you get into the playoffs,

1029
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: and you stay healthy, you will be postseason ready. There's

1030
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I think the key is to

1031
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: take care of your divisional arrivals at home. I think

1032
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: that's going to be the key for Theirs in the Cardinals,

1033
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: because I mean to be honest, the division has three

1034
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: of the best ten quarterbacks in the NFL. You still

1035
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: have that forty nine Ers defense and Kyle Shanahan in

1036
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the way he likes to call games. So if they're

1037
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: able to, you know, sneak in some wins on the

1038
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: road against maybe the Seahawks like they did last year,

1039
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: did they not last year the year before. If they're

1040
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: able to control your own destiny at home at least

1041
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: take care of business of your divisional arrivals at home

1042
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: and maybe get two wins on the road, I think

1043
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: that's ultimately gonna you know, impact you know, playoffs or

1044
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: seating maybe it's a difference between whether you win the

1045
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: division or you're a wildcard team. Obviously, this is going

1046
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: to be an extra wildcard team, so those divisional games

1047
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: at home are going to be crucial. They haven't had

1048
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned the twenty fifteen team earlier. They haven't had

1049
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: a winning record at home since twenty fifteen, so wow, wow,

1050
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I did not realize that maybe it was twenty sixteen.

1051
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: It might be twenty sixteen, because they tied that year,

1052
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: so I think it might have been twenty But still

1053
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: not having a winning record in the division when you're

1054
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to win the division, that that that's rough, and

1055
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the schedule the rest of

1056
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: the way. And this is going back to the original

1057
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: thing you were talking about Filipe and or actually Paul

1058
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: brought up you would you battered him back quite nicely

1059
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: with the newspaper, but not talking about the super Bowl

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00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: and where they might be in the playoffs and all that.

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00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they still have five division games, and we

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: already know how hard that is. They have a game

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Speaker 1: against the Packers home, but a game against the Packers,

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: they have a game against the Panthers. The Browns are

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Speaker 1: coming around they're going to the Browns, they have to

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Speaker 1: go to Dallas. Dallas. I mean, there are still a

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Speaker 1: hell of a lot of good teams that they have

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: on their schedule the rest of the way that could

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: waylay this stuff. And so you've got to continue to

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00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: play good football. You want to skip bayliss hot take

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Speaker 1: as we start to wrap up this edition of Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 1: based on what I've seen so far this season through

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00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: four games and four games only in the NFC or

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00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: NFC championship game Dallas Cowboys at the Arizona Cardinals. Actually,

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00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: let me flip that, because the Cowboys division stinks and

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00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals does not. So based on final record, home

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: field advantage, Cardinals at Big D NFC Championship that, based

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00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: on what I've seen, that would that would put the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in Dallas twice in like a four week periods. Whatever. Yeah,

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00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: three years too. Yeah, by the way, look at the

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00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: NFC West. So the Cardinals just ended the eight game

1082
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: skid against the Rams. You realize now this Seahawks of

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: being the forty nine ers fourteen of the last sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I had heard that while the Rams have been swept

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00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: by the Niners the last two years. So there's all

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00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: this inner division streaks going on and teams just pounding

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00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: on each other. It's the whole roundabout thing. But I'll

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Speaker 1: leave you with this, I sincerely hope that Jimmy G

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinal's sake is Jimmy I R for this game,

1090
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: because do we remember what he did against the Cardinals

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00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. He had a pair of four touchdown

1092
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: games against the Arizona Cardinals. But they handled them last

1093
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: year in the opener in the opener, but that game,

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: those two games in twenty nineteen is enough for me

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: to say I'd much rather see a rookie making his

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00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: first career start. But just then, Jimmy G that one game,

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00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: he had over four hundred yards passing and four touchdowns,

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00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: and I vividly remember the only other quarterbacks to do

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Speaker 1: that in forty nine ers history. Have you guys heard

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00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: of Joe Montana and Steve Young. That's the kind of

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: game Jimmy G had. That was not a defense Van's

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00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: Joseph is going to be putting on his No, but

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00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: it's funny, and I'm gonna leave with this. Jimmy G's

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00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: not playing this weekend. No, I don't think that was.

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00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Kyle Shanahan came out Monday trying to

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: put the toothpaste back on the tube after Jimmy g

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: basically ruined his potential subterfuge by saying, yeah, I'm out

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, and Kyle's like, no, no, no,

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00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: he he could still play. I promise he could still play.

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Speaker 1: I promise. I'll leave you guys with this since we're

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Speaker 1: leaving with something. Yes, it's gonna be a trend sherefield

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Speaker 1: revenge game, of course. I mean, did you guys see

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00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: that seventy six yard mom though that Trey Lanz through

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: last week? You know, oh yeah, the bust of coverage

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00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: one Deebo Samuel just wide open. So you're not worried

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00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 1: about anything regarding Trey Lanz's skill set versus this Cardinals defense,

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: because they have him faced a quarterback that's relatively mobile

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00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, Trevor Lawrence is pretty mobile. I mean,

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00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: skill said, yes, but quarterbacking no, not yet. I mean,

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Speaker 1: based on what we've seen, his accuracy is suspect. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not rooting anything out. The forty nine ers came

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00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: in here last year with like all third stringers, including

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00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and beat this team. And the Cardinals couldn't

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: do anything offensively, and you still have to, you know,

1125
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: do some things offensively against a very good defense. But again,

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00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: the way this offense is playing, I just shake my head.

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: That game in Week sixteen a year ago had all

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Speaker 1: the urgency and intensity of a preseason game. A third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback, a third string running back came in and

1130
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: dominated you. I mean, if you want a revenge game,

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: all due respect to mister Trent Shurfield, you need to

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: get revenge for what the Niners did you and your

1133
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: home building, knocking you out of the playoffs in weeks

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Speaker 1: sixteen a year ago. I love the fact that while

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00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: if they would have beat the Rams, they would have

1136
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs last year. Cliff Kingsbury said the

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Speaker 1: other day that it wasn't the forty nine ers that

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: the game that knocked them out of the playoffs. Because

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. Yeah, so okay, let's see revenge tour.

1140
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Speaker 1: You check the box on the Rams. The Niners are next.

1141
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury got Urban Meyer for all those college wins

1142
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: and the re national championship ranks. So no, uh, there

1143
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: was the Vikings win the pat p revenge game. Right. Um,

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: then there was Tennessee. Um, I'm stretching here. Let's see

1145
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee would be the Mike Vrabel revenge for what Mike

1146
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Rabel did against Cliff Kingsbury and Patriots gotten to the

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: Texans game for JJ Watton DeAndre That's huge. And then

1148
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland right vengeance against Baker Mayfield for leaving Texas Tech

1149
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: and transferring now to Oklahoma. I mean, we need one

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00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: of those revenge tour concertease right now. You can wear

1151
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: around with the whole Cardinal schedule on it. Reaching right now,

1152
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: every game has a revenge angle to him. How about that.

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Speaker 1: If you can't learn to reach Philippe, you have no

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Speaker 1: business on this podcast. We reach you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make like a Rams fan and I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and beat traffic. That'll do it for

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