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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfields,

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Speaker 1: by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross. Hey, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: guess what football is in the building. I am at

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Speaker 1: the Star today. I am broadcasting live from the s

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Speaker 1: WBC mortgage office. I'm in the boss's office today. I

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Speaker 1: am in Derek Eagleton's office because Nick is in our

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Speaker 1: office and we can't share an office. So you're just planning,

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Speaker 1: planning your takeover, aren't you. I am. I'm slowly spreading

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Speaker 1: out across the across the landscape. So I got to

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Speaker 1: watch some practice this morning. Jesse liking the hat, liking

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Speaker 1: the shirt. Nate like in the face. You're looking good, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: you look good. How's everybody feeling y'all good today? Good?

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Speaker 1: My friend good. I'm hope, I hope I'm as good

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Speaker 1: at that coffee native drinking. Yeah? Is it good? Yeah? Man?

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah. Shannon says, you're planning a hostile takeover

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Speaker 1: of Derek Eakinson's place. Can you get can you get

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Speaker 1: me a Jesse some some passes where we can come

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Speaker 1: physically see the practice. You know what, that's above my

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Speaker 1: pay grade. You guys are going, Okay, now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're back in the office with Nick. Now

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Speaker 1: you're all back in Now you're back in the office

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Speaker 1: with Nick. Okay, can we get some grace? Can we

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Speaker 1: get than? Can we some grace? I mean, because you know,

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Speaker 1: guys to tell our fans and listeners what I think

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Speaker 1: I see. I want to know what I'm seeing, my friend. Oh, man,

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Speaker 1: don't start, don't start, Just don't start. Man, We're not

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Speaker 1: We're not three minutes into the show, and Jesse's stirring

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Speaker 1: up some some crap already. Man, So the big news.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, man, let's get into it. I

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Speaker 1: finally got to watch practice. It's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: than normal training camp. They had practice indoors today. Um,

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Speaker 1: we got to watch it from over in uh over

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Speaker 1: Over a few of us in there socially distanced. Uh

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Speaker 1: the big news coming out of today. Gerald McCoy went

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Speaker 1: and twine Woods went down. Looked like he was grabbing

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Speaker 1: haven't heard anything. If you guys heard any of the

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Speaker 1: it was an injury, call you a rappaport. He bot

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Speaker 1: of knows what you think. All they've said is that

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Speaker 1: think Stevens Jones is supposed to talk with the media

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Speaker 1: here in a little bit, so hopefully he'll have some

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Speaker 1: kind of update, but they may not have much until

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Speaker 1: they get that Mr. I'm back. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're talking to me, that's apparently, that's what it's just

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Speaker 1: from some of the Twitter people are saying to me, Yeah, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: who liked us? Yeah? Twitter? Who? Twitter? Just some of

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Speaker 1: the reporters that were there, were you talking about Twitter? Who?

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just finding up with Jesus. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm praying it. I'm praying that I get to see

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Speaker 1: what all right? I'm try so now, let me let

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Speaker 1: all those things. This is why you need to have

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Speaker 1: Because this is not only conditioning football conditioning for these guys.

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Speaker 1: Jesse keeps reminding us of Tristian Hill, he needs to

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Speaker 1: at your local Albertson's towards Tom Thumb in the Delhi

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Speaker 1: section if you can't