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Speaker 1: this evening. Look, it's a really, really big deal Katie

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. I think he nailed it right there.

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Speaker 7: And obviously she has her opinion, her team has their opinion.

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Speaker 1: I have my opinion.

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Speaker 3: My team's the fans, the people who saw had their

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I have my own opinion that the

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Speaker 9: And uh.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I'm just sick of the campaign and

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Speaker 4: The only thing that.

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Speaker 1: Now. For the record, Taylor did say she would be

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Speaker 1: full disclosure. I scored both fights for Serrano very close.

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Speaker 1: She hurt Taylor in both fights. She aggressively outlanded her.

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Speaker 1: ask you straight up, how would you explain the judge's

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Speaker 4: So I went back and I watched both fights. I

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Speaker 4: will say, I will say, if there's one benefit BC

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Speaker 4: I think because I'm like you, I think I scored.

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Speaker 4: Elvis Serrano puts together us some good combinations, and in

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Speaker 4: She scores more demonstrative offense even if she gets outlanded.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the first things I would point out too.

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Speaker 4: She's able to counter Serrano pretty effectively, at least in

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Speaker 1: Not it's the bigger puncher. Surron's the bigger punch. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, But do you understand my point that like

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Speaker 4: But I really think BC, I really think these short

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, because I think the thing even

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Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit more nuance available

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Speaker 4: Look yeah, six twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I need glass. I'm in need glasses even more

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Speaker 1: for the second one, Let's go to the rematch, where

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Speaker 1: the stats were even more remarkable in favor, Luke, can

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Speaker 1: you read those at all?

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Speaker 4: Motherfucker? I'm blind as shit too.

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Speaker 1: All right, the bottom left can you want?

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Speaker 4: Got here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I need? The bottom left corner of the total punches.

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Speaker 4: Out of how much? Out of hell? Out of how many?

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Speaker 6: It looks like Serrano threw seven hundred thirty four and

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Speaker 1: Ended nearly one hundred more. And on top of that,

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Speaker 1: robbed Serrano of the potential of getting knockdowns or knockouts

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Speaker 1: in this matchup because she did visibly hurt her in

434
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Speaker 1: both fights. And yes, there were the controversies of the headbutts,

435
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Speaker 1: which did take a point away in the rematch from Taylor,

436
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Speaker 1: but nothing more from the referee. You mentioned the round setting.

437
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Speaker 1: They talked about it at the press conference this week.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in.

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Speaker 2: We're on the cusp of one of the greatest trilogies

440
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Speaker 2: in the history of sports. The Independent UK publication put

441
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: out an article today and it said the importance of

442
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: this rivalry is the same as Messi versus rinaldo the

443
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Speaker 2: final chapter.

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Speaker 1: Wrong clip there. If we can go to the back

445
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Speaker 1: and forth between them over the amount of rounds in

446
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Speaker 1: this matchup, She's not.

447
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Speaker 4: In the position to dictate the terms of the fight

448
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Speaker 4: to do three minutes and twelve rounds like the males.

449
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Speaker 4: Why you didn't accept that, Charlie, Well.

450
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Speaker 8: Because I won the second five. Like I said in

451
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Speaker 8: the last press conference, He's not in the position to

452
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Speaker 8: dictate the terms of device. I'm a champion, She's.

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Speaker 1: On it is what it is. Look, I'll get through

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Speaker 1: what Nikisa said in the second there. But I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you this regarding the potential for Serrano, who

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Speaker 1: is zero and two in this matchup, in this rivalry,

457
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Speaker 1: even if she and I believe she should have won,

458
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Speaker 1: the whole idea of how much should she change her strategy?

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Speaker 1: During that same press conference, she said, I'm really not

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Speaker 1: gonna change much. I thought I won the first two fights. Well,

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Speaker 1: even though it's a new set of judges here, you've

462
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Speaker 1: got to do something different. If you were her coach,

463
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Speaker 1: what would be that something different? After watching the first

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Speaker 1: two fights over again.

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Speaker 4: For Amanda Serrano, Yes.

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Speaker 1: How did you sway the judges in her favor?

467
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Speaker 4: So we know that the punching volume not an issue.

468
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Speaker 4: We know that combination work works well. So I don't

469
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Speaker 4: think it makes a lot of sense for Amanda Serrano

470
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Speaker 4: to just, you know, change up what she does completely

471
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Speaker 4: throw the baby out with the bath water, I mean,

472
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Speaker 4: PC Once again, you can make a very easy argument

473
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Speaker 4: that she won the first two I mean not literally,

474
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Speaker 4: but that perhaps that she should have. So we're talking

475
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Speaker 4: about minor adjustments, And what's one thing I say on

476
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Speaker 4: this show almost every week, minor adjustments at this level

477
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Speaker 4: of the game yield significant results. You don't need to

478
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Speaker 4: upend everything. You've got to tweak a few things. BC.

479
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Speaker 4: I think she has to crowd her. I think she

480
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Speaker 4: has to crowd her. Katie Taylor's ring craft, to me

481
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Speaker 4: is one of the more underrated features of this rivalry

482
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Speaker 4: because what we tend to focus on are the exchanges,

483
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Speaker 4: and for good reason. They're insane, They're plentiful, like they

484
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Speaker 4: go on for a long time, they have swings in momentum.

485
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Speaker 4: It's part of the fun of the story, right, because

486
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Speaker 4: that's a lot of what this rivalry is about. Fun.

487
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Speaker 4: It's enjoyable to watch two professionals who have this kind

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Speaker 4: of professional rivalry. But the ring craft of Katie Taylor

489
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Speaker 4: is a big difference maker. She uses any number of

490
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Speaker 4: things pens, turns, bumps, to retake center, to stay moving

491
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Speaker 4: laterally to you know you, to pull, for example, Amanda

492
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Speaker 4: Serrano into punches and that ends up scoring a lot

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Speaker 4: of offense and then allows Katie Taylor to reset to

494
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Speaker 4: me when Serrano was able to force more combination work

495
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Speaker 4: in a linear fashion and to get to Taylor to plant.

496
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Speaker 4: Sometimes Taylor wins those a lot of times. Serrano wins

497
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Speaker 4: those a lot of times. Her hand speed and combination

498
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Speaker 4: work tend to have this really very quick but obvious

499
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Speaker 4: accumulative effect. You need to take away her movement and

500
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Speaker 4: an MMA would be different, right, you just kick out

501
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Speaker 4: her legs. That's not what this is. So you have

502
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Speaker 4: to put the kinds of punches together that stop movement,

503
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Speaker 4: and you have to put the kind of I know,

504
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Speaker 4: she's Puerto Rican BC, a little Mexican forehead to forehead pressure,

505
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Speaker 4: you know, a little bit more East sot cruise with

506
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Speaker 4: more ring craft. Obviously, I think that's what's going to happen.

507
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Speaker 4: People don't talk about Katie Taylor's movement BC, and it's

508
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Speaker 4: essential to understanding her success.

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Speaker 1: It's a very very good point. I was wondering maybe

510
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Speaker 1: if it was the opposite, If it was, you gotta

511
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Speaker 1: make Katie Taylor become the chaser, become the spammer, and

512
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Speaker 1: Serrano become the counter puncher, considering that power advantage, and

513
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Speaker 1: that maybe if she Folks is less on volume and

514
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Speaker 1: more on impact shots. But I think you also run

515
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Speaker 1: the risk if that happens that we have another close

516
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Speaker 1: fight and now suddenly the judges favorite Taylor for activity

517
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: in ways they didn't favor Serrano. The first two. Either way,

518
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Speaker 1: we do expect this to be potentially hillatious, just as

519
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Speaker 1: good as the first two. Do you think the age

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Speaker 1: with Katie Taylor now being thirty nine, having been in

521
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Speaker 1: a decent amount of wars, the two Crazy fights with

522
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Speaker 1: Delphine pursuing the lost to Chantel Cameron, the first two

523
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Speaker 1: fights here with Serrano, is it fair to say three

524
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Speaker 1: years younger that Serrano's the fresher fighter, that maybe that

525
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Speaker 1: will be an issue? Do you believe that's maybe why

526
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Speaker 1: she's the betting favorite despite being ohing too.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do believe her being thirty nine will be

528
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Speaker 4: an issue. You know what's funny be see again. I

529
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Speaker 4: know we're speaking predominantly to what is largely an MMA audience,

530
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Speaker 4: not exclusively obviously. I think everyone's pretty high for this fight,

531
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Speaker 4: but we're not used to seeing guys fight four or

532
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Speaker 4: five times in MMA. Has happened, but it's quite rare.

533
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Speaker 4: B See, if Serrano ends up doing what she could

534
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Speaker 4: have done in the first two fights, you're gonna get

535
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Speaker 4: another one here, like there's simply no doubt in my mind.

536
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Speaker 1: But to answer the question, the money, by the way,

537
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Speaker 1: they both said, because the money's too good, of.

538
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Speaker 4: Course, with I mean, who else are they gonna fight

539
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: to get this kind of money from? Right, I mean,

540
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: each one is the golden ticket. But what I was

541
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Speaker 4: gonna say was I do think that. I mean, when

542
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Speaker 4: I went back and I watched these first two fights

543
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Speaker 4: again to the point that you raise, Serrano gets off

544
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: balanced and demonstrably moved in ways, and I think was very,

545
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Speaker 4: very memorable for the judges. But b C correct me

546
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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, and if you disagree, by all means,

547
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Speaker 4: say so. But to me, if I was asked who

548
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: got rocked worse in individual moments worse, I should say

549
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: between the two in the two fights, it's going to

550
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Speaker 4: be Katie Taylor. And the fact that's kind of what's

551
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: remarkable about her because she rescued herself a couple of

552
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: times and then put it back on Serrano. But you

553
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Speaker 4: just wonder, if Serrano's been enough adjustments and this things

554
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 4: go a little bit differently this time, could Katie Taylor

555
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: get really messed up here. I don't think that's a

556
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Speaker 4: crazy thing to consider.

557
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Speaker 1: It's just crazy that Serrano, before signing with Jake in

558
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, was already a first ballot Hall of

559
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Speaker 1: Famer nine division champion, the only male or female in

560
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Speaker 1: boxing history, yet was often defending her titles off TV,

561
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: usually around purses of fifteen and twenty thousand. Now she's

562
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Speaker 1: making nine million here. She made seven million in the rematch,

563
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Speaker 1: made at least seven figures in the first one. Remarkable

564
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Speaker 1: turn for both, which certainly tells you they both need

565
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Speaker 1: each other one more time in Long Island. Could you

566
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Speaker 1: play Nikisa's clip? Trying to really put into perspective what

567
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: this rivalry means to women's boxing.

568
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Speaker 2: We're on the cusp of one of the greatest trilogies

569
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Speaker 2: in the history of sports. The Independent UK publication put

570
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 2: out an article today and it's said the importance of

571
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: this rivalry is the same as Messi versus Rinaldo, the

572
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Speaker 2: final chapter of Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano.

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Speaker 1: Luke, you're a footy type of guy. Does that make

574
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Speaker 1: any sense to you? But at the same time, even

575
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Speaker 1: even if it doesn't, we can't overlook what this fight,

576
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Speaker 1: what this rivalry can do moving forward on the impact

577
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Speaker 1: of women's box.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't think that's a

579
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: very helpful analogy. Messi and Ronaldo compete in a sport

580
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Speaker 4: that has maybe the highest participatory rate of any sport worldwide,

581
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Speaker 4: and yet ended up being these figures that changed how

582
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Speaker 4: we understand the sport and what was possible and while

583
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: lifting the rivalry, playing for rival clubs for you know,

584
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Speaker 4: nearly a decade. Basically, yeah, I don't. I mean, that

585
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: was so infinitely bigger and harder to do. I'm not

586
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Speaker 4: trying to demean the athletes, but I think that's just

587
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: a little bit over the line. But this is the

588
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Speaker 4: point I would like to it, Like, it doesn't need

589
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: to be Messi and Rinaldo. It doesn't need to be

590
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Speaker 4: any of those things. It just like this is such

591
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: a high water mark that like it can just live

592
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Speaker 4: on its own. And in fact, what I think is

593
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Speaker 4: more interesting is how to me future women's rivalries in

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Speaker 4: combat sports, not just boxing, such that they are trilogies

595
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Speaker 4: or you know, again there's rivalries they will be compared

596
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Speaker 4: to this. You know, every time you hear a fighter, say, like,

597
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: let's for example, you know a fighter comes out of Georgia,

598
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: Someone's gonna ask them, do you want to be the

599
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: next Iliotaporia? Do you want to be the next Morab

600
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: Dwala Shweeley and then what they're never be going to

601
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: say is no, I want to be the first. You know,

602
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: they'll say their own name. That's the feeling I get

603
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: with this one. I mean, obviously there's been great women's

604
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: boxers before, and great and some rivalries, but to me,

605
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: for our generation, this is the gold standard. This is it.

606
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: This is this is what future generations of fight fans

607
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: are going to remember as the most noteworthy and important

608
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: women's rivalry. So my response to Takisa would be, I

609
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 4: understand what he's trying to say, but let this speak

610
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Speaker 4: for itself on its own, independent of like comparisons across

611
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: gender and sport and continence, like, let it live on

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00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: its own.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, I think it's It's important though, because

614
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: leilai and and Wolf were contemporaries, they're both Hall of famers.

615
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: They never fought each other. I mean Wolf blames Leila

616
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: li So to do her critics. Ultimately, now you got

617
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: these two in this era, which again also includes Colorisa Shields, MICHAELA. Mayer,

618
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: so many other great female fighters, and a lot of

619
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Speaker 1: them will be on this card. By the way, I

620
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: give Jake Paul and MVP Promotions a lot of credit

621
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: for that, but you're gonna get these three at least

622
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: these two at least three times, maybe even a fourth.

623
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Speaker 1: Who knows Long Island Luke. We mentioned those betting odds

624
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: from DraftKings minus one eighty five for Serrano, plus one

625
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: fifty for Taylor. I know you're neither an expert on

626
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Speaker 1: boxing or women, but as boyfriend of the ear or

627
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: girlfriend boyfriend of the year, how do you look at

628
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: this from a betting standpoint? You're getting plus money. I'm

629
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: one of the greatest fighters ever who's two and zero

630
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: in this rivalry.

631
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Speaker 6: I know when you when you word it like that,

632
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Speaker 6: I feel like it's definitely worth throwing a little something

633
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 6: on Katie Taylor. I already took Amanda by decision in

634
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Speaker 6: a parlay. I took it with the over eight and

635
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 6: a half in the opening bout on the main card,

636
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: which is Scott me versus Mercado.

637
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Speaker 5: I believe, yeah, those are their names. So the over

638
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: eight and a half in that with Serrano by decision.

639
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 6: So I'm Ryan with Serrano, but I think it's anyone's

640
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 6: fight definitely worth it really is.

641
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: And speaking of anyone's fighting, Oh By the way that

642
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: undercard Alicia Baumganner's back Savannah Marshall against Shadeza Green to

643
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: unify titles. Chantell Cameron, I mean, Jannetka Johnson, I'll doo.

644
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Now, can I say something about Shadejah Green. This is

645
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: where it's like Jake Paul the boxer, not my favorite,

646
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Speaker 4: not my favorite. Don't we don't don't we don't hide

647
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Speaker 4: that on this show, Jake Paul, the promoter man. Shadejah

648
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Speaker 4: Green has been on Jake Paul's undercards or quite some time.

649
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Speaker 4: And we interviewed her when we were working at showtime,

650
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Speaker 4: and you know, I remember when we spoke to her,

651
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: she was full of like verve, you know, she had

652
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: some real attitude in a good way. And here she

653
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: is still climbing. Jake Paul is not just oh he

654
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: promotes a man to Serrano. There's like a bunch of

655
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: women he has given multiple opportunities to. It's a very

656
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: simple question against leader promotions. I think with Clarissa Shields

657
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Speaker 4: has done obviously an enormous amount. There's been some other

658
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Speaker 4: ones too, Skyt Nichols, Yeah, yeah, I don't know fair enough.

659
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not just the Jake Paul show. But

660
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying for Jake Paul, who all this controversy

661
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: around and blah blah blah, dude, he promotes the shit

662
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Speaker 4: out of women's boxing, and there's just no two ways

663
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Speaker 4: about it. You have to give him credit.

664
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's give credit to who we think will

665
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Speaker 1: be the winner, Luke Taylor Serrano three this evening live

666
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Speaker 1: on Netflix eight pm Eastern, five pm Pacific. Who wins?

667
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Speaker 1: And does this end the best rivalry and women boxing history.

668
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Speaker 4: Man, I've been wrong about this every every step of

669
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: the way, and I have really gone back and forth

670
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 4: on this one. But I think I'm finally gonna say

671
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Speaker 4: that I'm confident Serrano will win. I guess, I guess

672
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Speaker 4: I'm not confident. I'm gonna say Serrano. I just feel

673
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: like it's been within her grasp and I think that

674
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: they're finally going to catch Katie Taylor a little bit

675
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: on the downswing and that's gonna make a difference. But

676
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Speaker 4: of course we see, as you well know, as you

677
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Speaker 4: indicated right before you ask me, it truly truly is

678
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Speaker 4: anyone's fight, it really is.

679
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Speaker 1: I'm going Serrono by decision as well. I think the

680
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: difference this time will be that she'll get that knockdown.

681
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Speaker 1: She will get through on Taylor. I don't think she'll

682
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Speaker 1: finish her because Katie fights so well hurt and is

683
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Speaker 1: so able to recuperate quickly in crazy situations. And again,

684
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Speaker 1: the two minute rounds make it very difficult. But I

685
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Speaker 1: do think a knockdown could be the difference here. I

686
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: think Sorono will make those adjustments and be a little

687
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Speaker 1: bit fresher, and maybe we see a fourth one, but

688
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Speaker 1: I'm not focused on that. I'm focused on this one

689
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Speaker 1: and it does go down this evening. One final time

690
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Speaker 1: to get you fired up. Of course, you can watch

691
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Speaker 1: Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano three tonight Friday, July eleventh,

692
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Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern five Pacific live on Netflix. Luke real

693
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Speaker 1: quick to close this topic, I want to show you

694
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Speaker 1: that picture we didn't think it was coming of Jake,

695
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Speaker 1: Paul and Turkey Ala Chic, along with the quote tweet

696
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Speaker 1: from Jake which says, my an MVP's goal has always

697
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: been to disrupt and grow boxing, and Turkey has done

698
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: that in massive ways. Collaborating only helps ensure boxing. Here's

699
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: the key part for men and women continues to grow

700
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Speaker 1: and regain its place as the biggest sport in the world.

701
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Speaker 1: So not only is this surprising to see what we

702
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: thought were major rivals in this boxing space come together.

703
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I would kneed Jerk go Okay, Maybe Turkey's gonna pay

704
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: for Ksi, who he already has under a ring magazine

705
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Speaker 1: brand ambassador deal. Maybe he's going to make Ksi versus Jake,

706
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: But Jake mentioned men and women there. What do you

707
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: make of this moving forward?

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Speaker 4: I guess everyone bens a need a Turkey eventually. Let's

709
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: see what they come up with. I mean, on the

710
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: one hand, you would like to see promoters not clash exactly,

711
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: but give different competing visions of what boxing can be

712
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: and look like. That's actually to me, one of the

713
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 4: benefits of the multi promoter model that boxing enjoys is

714
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Speaker 4: that you don't just get one's version sensibility, you get

715
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: a lot, and I think I wouldn't want to lose that.

716
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Speaker 4: At the same time, if they're willing to join forces BC,

717
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: especially across gender lines, to make boxing's biggest fights possible,

718
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to know what the obvious downside

719
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: of that would be. I mean, there could be some

720
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: and in fact there probably will be, but just in

721
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: terms of you know, Saudi dominance in the sport, but

722
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Speaker 4: just just to talk about, like you know, combining rosters,

723
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Speaker 4: combining forces. You know, one of the things that we've

724
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: been critical in boxing is guys don't crossed ardent ladies

725
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Speaker 4: either cross the street to work with other promoters. If

726
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: we can get a more robust sharing system across promoters,

727
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: once again, isn't that a little bit the dream? I mean,

728
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: maybe that's an exaggeration, but like you just would prefer

729
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: promoters work together to make the biggest fights, and if

730
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Speaker 4: that's what we're going to get, I think most fans

731
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: would be quite receptive.

732
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I mean, there was a time

733
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Speaker 1: earlier this year where there's a lot of rumors that

734
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Jake and Nikisa were looking to secure upwards of one

735
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in investment money that I believe they

736
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Speaker 1: were unable to maybe to be the rival for the eventual,

737
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: inevitable Turkey Zuofo boxing takeover. I don't think this means

738
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Speaker 1: Dana and Jake are going to be partners, but maybe

739
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Speaker 1: this means Amanda Serrano fights on a ring, you know,

740
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Speaker 1: ring magazine card or what have you. We got to

741
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 1: wait and see. Let's go to topic number two, which

742
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: is this Ring magazine series, which I gotta say, when

743
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: you look at everything that Turkey's brought to boxing over

744
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, the good, the bad, obviously

745
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: the biggest things We're getting these huge fights like better

746
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Viev and Beval, getting Usik Fury, all that this ring

747
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: magazine series has become I think the best thing that

748
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Turkey is a part of, even with that time Square

749
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: card not living up to expectations. Saturday night, also in

750
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: New York City, but nearby in Queens at Louis Armstrong Stadium,

751
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: one of the playing surfaces for the annual US Open

752
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Tennis tournament, we are going to get Ring three, a

753
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: four fight card of decent note here of fights we

754
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: need to see, but let's start off and focus first

755
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: on that main event, Edgar Berlanga versus Hamza Shiraz Hamza

756
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Sharaz Excuse me and Luke, considering both fighters are really

757
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: being harshly judged by critics due to their most recent

758
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: elite performances, and that's Berlanga in the one sided pay

759
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: per view lost to Canelo and Shiraz in that disputed

760
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: title draw well with Carlos Adamis for the middleweight title

761
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: and the fight where Turkey ran up and gave him

762
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: the scores in the corner. Which fighter do you believe

763
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: has more to prove in this super middleweight showdown that

764
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: will air on his own pay per view Saturday night

765
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: between two big time sluggers.

766
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Speaker 4: Okay, this is a very simple question to answer. Who

767
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: would receive more blowback from the public in the event

768
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Speaker 4: of a loss, and the answer is Edgar Berlanga. Period.

769
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Speaker 4: There's no question in my mind. This is a guy

770
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Speaker 4: who lost basically a shutout to Canelo and then did

771
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: a victory lap tour afterwards. He started out with a

772
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: ton of hype, right they called him the monster. He

773
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 4: was knocking out everybody, and then it just he started

774
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: fighting guys who, you know, weren't pre diabetic gas station attendance,

775
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: and that fell off pretty quickly, and there's been a

776
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: lot of controversy about him. And then even this week

777
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: we see I'm sure we'll look at it, you know,

778
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: feuding with not his opponent, but with his opponents promoter essentially,

779
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: I guess in Shiraz, not even not even you're right,

780
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: You're right. What am I saying? Yeah, not even? But

781
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: they were on the opposite ends of the stage. But yes,

782
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: I mean you get the idea.

783
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Oscar's there for William Zepeta.

784
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, yeah, but you get the idea like

785
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 4: they're not even. He's not even focused on his opponent

786
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 4: as some kind of like noteworthy rival. It's about it.

787
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: He's fighting Sharaz Edgar Burlongez. That is true. He's also

788
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: fighting I think public criticism. Doubt you know, Oscar critics.

789
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: He's got a lot to fight here for twelve rounds

790
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: and queens on Saturday night. That actually has nothing to

791
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: do with the opponent, and the opponent, to me, offers

792
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: some real stylistic challenges to him. So it's gotta be

793
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 4: him if he if this backfire's here, you know you're

794
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: gonna watch people clown the shit out of this guy.

795
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the better answer, given how much

796
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: shit Berlanga talks. He says, I went, I went toe

797
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: to toe with Canelo. Ask anybody in New York and

798
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: it's like, uh no, you didn't. You got up from

799
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: the knockdown, you went the distance. But yeah, but on

800
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: the flip side, Luke. Look, Sharraz has maybe among all

801
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: other fighters who we consider Turkey's favorites. Dude, he's getting

802
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: poised to be pushed to the moon. Turkey has not

803
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: hesitated from not only tweeting publicly that he hopes Sharaz

804
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: does not get knocked out because he has big plans

805
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: ahead for him. But those big plans have already been

806
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: said Canelo in May. It'll be down to Chris Ubank

807
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: Junior or Charaz if they both win their next fights,

808
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: and obviously it might be dependent upon whether Crawford beats

809
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: Canelo later this year. But Sharraz did not look ready

810
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: for primetime against a Damis ring iq. You know, adaptability,

811
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: It just wasn't there against a pure boxer, an elite

812
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: champion there at one sixty in a Damis. Now he's

813
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: moving up in wait, new trainer and Andy Lee, a

814
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him. And look, the thing about

815
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: Berlanga is everybody hates him, but look, I don't think

816
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: he's as bad as his critics say.

817
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: I really don't.

818
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Speaker 1: I don't don't think he's the same guy who knocked

819
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: out sixteen guys in a row in the first round.

820
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: He's not that menacing, but he's confident, he can punch,

821
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: he's got a chin, he can punch a little If

822
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to estimate this guy, he is poised. I

823
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: think that might matter in this matchup.

824
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. Here's what I'm gonna say. Burlanka

825
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: is the kind of boxer where you can have a

826
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Speaker 4: skill advantage over him bec but if you're not locked

827
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: in mentally in terms of what the task is and

828
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: then even under fire a little bit, you know, learn

829
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 4: how to manage it over the course of twelve rounds,

830
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 4: it could be a problem for you. But if you

831
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: just look at the guys who have had some success

832
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: against him, or you know, in the case of Canelo,

833
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: just a rout of him. He's not a smart boxer,

834
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: He's not. He's a confident boxer, but he's not a

835
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: smart one. He can be outsmarted, but he makes up

836
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: for it with you know, verv Gusto a little bit

837
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: of punching power at a two dude. He can make

838
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: guys who aren't confident in their abilities wilt a little bit.

839
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: I think that's the issue. But like, technically, can he

840
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: be beaten. I think he could be beaten by a

841
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: lot of guys in this division. The question is you

842
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: know mentally and strategically and how those two intersect. What

843
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: is Sharra's cooking up and what can he ultimately deliver?

844
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: But you know, Berloga is there to be beaten. He's

845
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Speaker 4: not clever.

846
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff right here, Let's go first, if you can

847
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: skip down Long Island, look to the face off between them.

848
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: That got very intense.

849
00:44:29,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 10: Yesterday, Lassos came.

850
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 11: On clsa's knee.

851
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Speaker 1: Is Canos comes a crop about the part about their cave.

852
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Speaker 3: You died. You're gonna sho, You're gonna see what another honey?

853
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: What another honey?

854
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: But another honey?

855
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Put another honey? What another honey?

856
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Another hunter?

857
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: What another hunter?

858
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: Negro?

859
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 10: Look?

860
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: Uh words there?

861
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Long Island, Looke. Did you switch up the odds

862
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: because as I wrote this rundown yesterday, Berlanga had become

863
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: the betting favorite again after this being a pick them

864
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: for most of the week. Are you telling me now

865
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: that Charaz is the favorite according to DraftKings?

866
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's growing so early this morning i updated

867
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: the rundown, Berlongo was plus one ten. I just look

868
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: five minutes ago, he's plus one twenty five now some

869
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 6: money's coming.

870
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: In so Charaz now minus one fifty five. He's come

871
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: back in front as the favorite. Uh this is gonna

872
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: be an interesting fight. We do have to get through

873
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of ridiculousness first, and one of that

874
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: is uh Berlanga's war with Oscar de la Joya. The

875
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: only thing we can do is play the video. Mean,

876
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: look at me that for you?

877
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 8: Yeah?

878
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: Is that really?

879
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 10: Yeah?

880
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? For you?

881
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 10: Look way.

882
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: I knew it, you know, for the person of all, person.

883
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: Of all that you have world night.

884
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

885
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 10: Let me put him on out.

886
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 9: Let me put him on now, bab I got put

887
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 9: on running for you here, I got from running for you. Hey,

888
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 9: listen to me, listen to this this time, this time.

889
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 9: Not even Puerto Rican, I've been. I've been happy for

890
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 9: your Puerto Rican pants for you?

891
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 5: Where is it?

892
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: Where's your Puerto Rican passport? Yes, where's your Puerto Rican?

893
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: You?

894
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Your jewelry is the takers are wins that.

895
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 10: Julie is probably.

896
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 12: Famous bits Hey.

897
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 4: His jewelery.

898
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that thing just kept going. They

899
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: needed to be separated.

900
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: In the end, I wouldn't I would not want Oscar

901
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: to be my stripper. I've been to strip clubs. I

902
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: would not want Oscar to be my stripper. I wouldn't

903
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: want to to be my stripper. You know what I'm

904
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: saying that.

905
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Real cash that was being thrown by him or is

906
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: a fake?

907
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: Is the kind of guy probably dumb enough to throw

908
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 4: real cash there rather than keeping it for himself. So

909
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: probably Yeah.

910
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: And also Oscar saying Puerto Rican passport, I get, I

911
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: get that, it's better. Yeah, first of all is Anita passport.

912
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Second of all, he's been on him saying, look, look,

913
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: you were born in New York. You try to represent

914
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Blah blah blah. I mean people used to

915
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: say the same thing about Oscar born in the States.

916
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: They didn't consider him a real Mexican. It is what

917
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: it is right there. But let's quickly bring in Seawans

918
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: to tell Luke we love this guy.

919
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: Sean to tell, Hey, MMA fans, if you want a

920
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: guy obviously besides BC, if you want a guy to

921
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: cover in boxing who's got good takes, who loves the

922
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: sport and explains it in real interesting ways, Sean's to

923
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: tell is the guy you should be paying attention to.

924
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't back away from the truth. Or his

925
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: growing repertoire of boxing impersonations, which include Bob Aarum, Caleb

926
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Plan a few others. Here's his take while on the

927
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Portaway podcast of trying to do Berlenga's voice scene.

928
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, hey, Jo, when I went twelve

929
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 4: with Connelo, I I tell Sean, you got to understand.

930
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 5: I was telling him you a bitch?

931
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: How do.

932
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: How you do that?

933
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 5: That's why that's why he don't want the rematch.

934
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do that?

935
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: Man?

936
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 4: That could have been.

937
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: We won't play the video due to time, but but

938
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: you had mentioned it earlier. This week, Sharaz went around

939
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: Times Square in New York City and was asking people

940
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: because Berlanga, every interview is like this, ma shit. I

941
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: told Turkey this is mas City in Shiraz is interviewing

942
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: people in Times Square and they're like, uh, who's that?

943
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I have never heard of that? But Luke, we've heard

944
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: of both. Who wins on Saturday.

945
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't discount the possibility that a guy like Burlanga

946
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: can will himself to a win here. I would not

947
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 4: discount that this is a close fight, and I can

948
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 4: understand a pick for Burloanga absolutely, but I'm gonna go

949
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: with Shiraz. I just feel like Shiraz is. I'm not

950
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 4: gonna say crazy, more technically sound. I don't think that's right,

951
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: but I think enough of a more developed, polished game

952
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: that he should be able to win seven of twelve rounds.

953
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: Give me by decision, Charras.

954
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: People are wondering whether the Turkey factor will play in

955
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: and he'll get a Canelo favoritism on the scorecards.

956
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: Okay, not being Queens, but Blonga is the Hometoel.

957
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still gonna lie. That's tough. I do think

958
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: long term, Razz the better of the two, but he's

959
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: coming into the He's coming into sixty eight here, new trainer,

960
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: not the best performance last time. I think this will

961
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: be a close fight. I'm still leaning Berlanga. I still

962
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: am he's more accustomed to this weight class. We'll see

963
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: this is a very good fight on Saturday in that

964
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Tennis stadium and in that cole main event. I believe

965
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: it's just as good. Despite the wide odds. As three

966
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: division champion and WBC lightweight title holder, Shaquer Stevenson will

967
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: be a minus twelve hundred favorite when he enters the

968
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: long awaited mandatory challenge of thirty three and zero William Zapata,

969
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: who is plus seven hundred and Shakor has been spicy

970
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: whether he's been sitting down with me on the BCX,

971
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: or on Aerial Show, or anytime they put a microphone

972
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: in front of him, including when it's time to run

973
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: all over Mike Coppinger. But Shakor got so spicy in

974
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: predicting the finish that we had to bring in Queer

975
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: for a little shot. Spire as always Shots Fired brought

976
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: to you by Cuervo, and now is a good time

977
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Here's Shaquar Stevenson

978
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: at the final press conference predicting Saturday night's co main event.

979
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 5: I've been calling this dude out for three years.

980
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: I heard Oscar say that they've been trying to get

981
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: this fight for three years, but they're lying.

982
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: They had opportunity to fight me before they turned it

983
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: down and it was all Oscar. So come Saturday night,

984
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm coming in here to beat his ass. He gonna come,

985
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 5: he gonna be tough, strong, but I'm coming to whoop

986
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: his ass.

987
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 8: I stand by that, I stand by that.

988
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm fucking him up.

989
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: Ye, I'm fucking him.

990
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: Up, William.

991
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: Luke. It's been a rough two years for Shakor pr wise,

992
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: but the odds don't lie here is the paint is

993
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: one of the toughest challenges on his resume an active,

994
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: aggressive volume puncher. But I got a side with what

995
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Shaquur's saying and what the odds makers are saying. If

996
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna bounce back and he's got all the pressure

997
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: on him to that, to bounce back not look boring,

998
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: not look anything else, he might just f f up

999
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: this guy. In the end.

1000
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: I do worry about Shakurr's hands. It doesn't seem like

1001
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: they ever really heal. Even in his last about you

1002
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: know it showed up again and it doesn't seem to

1003
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: be like the kind of thing where it prevents him

1004
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: from winning BC, but it does prevent him from being

1005
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: fully himself. He's constantly having to on to some level

1006
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 4: holster his weapons. And I would just like to see

1007
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: one case like wouldn't it be awesome if you just

1008
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: have a fight where like Shakurr gave you the you know,

1009
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of boxing scale, the full Monty,

1010
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, where you really got to

1011
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: see because you always see these glimpses of the defense.

1012
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: You see these glimpses of the precision punching, the jabbing,

1013
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: but like in a case where he really is quite

1014
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: dominant with it because he doesn't have to pump the

1015
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: brakes at all. That's what I would like to see here.

1016
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 4: But you know I respects Apaieda BC. I'm sure you

1017
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: do as well. Anyone who watches boxing probably wouldn't. I

1018
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: don't in any way discount your characterization that he's one

1019
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: of the tougher matchups possible for Shakur at the stage

1020
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: of his career and given where things are. But I

1021
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 4: just think he's overmatched. I think Shakhor Chakor is just

1022
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: totally overmatched. Schakor needs to fight someone if you really

1023
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: want to see him tested that not only has physical

1024
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: tools that make him think, but can not. He doesn't

1025
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: have to be quite as technically precise, but has to

1026
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: keep him guessing a little bit. I don't know if

1027
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 4: Zapeida is that guy. I think this is Shakur's fight

1028
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: to lose, like most of them are.

1029
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: I think Zapeida does not have the power that say

1030
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: Edwin del Santos has which produced that very boring fight

1031
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: against Shakur. I think the pressures on Shakur and he

1032
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: knows it. He's sick of the criticism. And most importantly,

1033
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Supaida's style is tailor made. Shakur looks at his bet,

1034
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: looks his best. When you come after him, like Oscar

1035
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: Valdes did right, then you'll see the full pound for

1036
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: pound guy who will stand in the pocket, dodge punches

1037
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: and counter big. You're right to call out the hands.

1038
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Ariel had said when they did that interview that they

1039
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: had a very weak shake, and a lot of people

1040
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: are pointing to the pictures of Shakhor's hands during the

1041
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: press events this week not looking so great. I still

1042
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: think he gets it done, and gets it done in

1043
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: a big way. So shots fired indeed, and a reminder

1044
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: from the great folks at Quervo that we'll be back

1045
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: next Wednesday, July sixteenth, eleven am Eastern in our studio

1046
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: there in Metal Lark in Manhattan for UFC three to

1047
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: eighteen pregame preview brought to you by Quervo Luke Thomas,

1048
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell and Jed Mesu Number two. Luke very quickly

1049
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: Sebastian frondor around the corner. UFC Nashville preview to come.

1050
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: We can't overlook that Alberto Poyo title defense at one

1051
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: forty against Subriel Mattias. As we stand right now, the

1052
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: odds are telling you that this is going to be

1053
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: a very good fight with the pressure style of both,

1054
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: although they're different in how they apply it. Poyo minus

1055
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: one twenty five Mattias plus one hundred. Where are you

1056
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: leaning on this one?

1057
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: Man? This is an interesting one. Mattias came out of

1058
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 4: the PBC four a while and he was just sitting

1059
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: everybody down. I think he had five guys quit on

1060
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: the stool in a row. Something absurd, right, I mean

1061
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 4: he is there was a while there where he was

1062
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: looking like the Boogeyman. Then he goes and signs with

1063
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: Eddie Hern in a Puerto Rican homecoming fight and it

1064
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 4: didn't go great. That's his stock has come a little

1065
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: bit down to earth. Plus he's a slow starter. This

1066
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: is an interesting one for MEBC because I think Mattias

1067
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: is absolutely going to have his moments and then several rounds,

1068
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: especially starting after round six, I think he's gonna have

1069
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: poo in a lot of trouble. But dude, Po's crafty.

1070
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: He's crafty. He's got a lot of skills he doesn't

1071
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: he yes, he can come forward, he can fight, you know,

1072
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 4: on the move as well. And I think he's a

1073
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 4: little rangier too. So I think this is you know,

1074
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Speaker 4: I I love watching Mattias compete, but I think this

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00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: is Poo's time to shine. This is a great fight,

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: a tough fight, but a lot for Mattias to overcome here.

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Speaker 1: I would agree there it's it's it's possible that that

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: what he does best could factor into here. But I

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00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: think Poeo's too quick, has the length, has the volume,

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Speaker 1: and I think he knows how to win close fights

1081
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: like that title defense against Sandor Martin last time I

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00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: scored that for Martin, Poeo was barely able to get

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Speaker 1: that edge. Also, Luke, David Morrell Junior's back, coming off

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00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: the loss to David Benavidez. He'll take on ten and ozer,

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Speaker 1: Russian who fights Olympic silver medalists, who fights out of Australia,

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00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: Imam Katayev. But that fellow we just found out is

1087
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: currently in the midst of a two year drug suspension

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00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna fight anyway, So there you go. I

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: don't know how that's popping, hey boxing, Yeah, yeah, that is.

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Speaker 1: That is what we do right there. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: transition to topic number three. We'll get into the MMA

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Sebastian fundor still to come. It's UFC Fight Night Nashville.

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Speaker 1: It goes down Saturday night, not in that damn apex,

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Speaker 1: right in front of an actual crowd in Tennessee. And

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Speaker 1: Get Unlimited day that won't slow you down. So heavyweight's

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Speaker 1: in the main event, and despite just one UFC fight

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Speaker 1: coming in, six foot seven Brazilian talised to Shia is

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Speaker 1: entering his first main event in the octagon, and he's

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Speaker 1: more than a two to one betting favorite against forty

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Speaker 1: year old Derek Lewis, who's won two of his last

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Speaker 1: three and of course owns that UFC record for most knockouts. Luke,

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00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: honest question, is this too much too soon for the

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: twenty five year old to Shera, who has stopped all

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: eight of his opponents in the first round as a professional,

1107
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Or would you say, this is strong fast track matchmaking

1108
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: to try to find new contenders in a division like heavyweight.

1109
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: That's always shallow.

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Speaker 4: Bro, You know, heavyweight is in deep shit when they're

1111
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: fast tracking guys there like they do at flyweight. Right

1112
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: when heavyweight contendership cues look like water slides, you know,

1113
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: you know, it's like not not what it used to be.

1114
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: Now that being said, I don't dislike this fight, and

1115
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: in fact, Talison is an interesting guy. You know, rangier,

1116
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: certainly taller. I'll say this, I've always believed. I've always

1117
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: believed and I will always believe. If you see a guy,

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: even if he's got one UFC win, but all the

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00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: wins basically come around first round and first round stoppage.

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Speaker 4: That means that they're obviously good and that they're obviously dangerous,

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: but that they probably haven't fought anybody. And that will

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: change here with this one. Now, I don't think Derek

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Speaker 4: Lewis is you know what he was at his very best,

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Speaker 4: but he's still a dynamite puncher. Uh long, Islan Luke,

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Speaker 4: can you give me the way in information? Because I

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Speaker 4: believe this was the lightest that Derek Lewis has come

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: in in years on way in day, which is gonna

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Speaker 4: be helpful because he's gonna need to be a little

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: bit more mobile. Although I did think that there was

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00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: a chance he might wrestle what he.

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Speaker 5: Got for me, He's not that like two sixty one

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Speaker 5: and to share his two fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: No, so I've could have sworn I read that he

1134
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: came in much lighter. But okay, maybe I missed that part.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. There is a chance he could wrestle here, BC,

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: I think is kind of interesting. So you're gonna get

1137
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 4: a fuller test maybe of to Shera's game. But if

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00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: it stays standing, Derek Lewis might get real fucked up here.

1139
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: Like to Shera can do those kinds of things. Yeah, well,

1140
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Speaker 4: I mean, just like again, who's more proven Derek Lewis.

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00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis is infinitely more proven, has fought way better guys,

1142
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: has beaten better guys, of course, but you know, he's

1143
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: getting a little bit up long in the tooth and

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: to Shera is, at least from a stylistic perspective, the

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00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: kind of frame and skill set that could give Derek

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00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: Lewis a ton of problems for sure.

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Speaker 1: My fear is just what we talked about, that it's

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: too much too soon, like when Alexander Romanov arrived on

1149
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: the scene and was, you know, bodying dudes and wrestling

1150
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: the shit out of them, or Robella's Dusponne at six

1151
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: foot seven and we're like, oh my god, this guy

1152
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: might be a high kicking killer. The reality is Tishera

1153
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: has not gotten out of the first round in eight

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Speaker 1: pro fights. The other reality is that although he knocked

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01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: out Justin Tafa in thirty five seconds in his debut

1156
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: in February of this year, that was the first opponent

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: he fought with a Wikipedia page. He did knock out

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Speaker 1: Arthur Lopez on the Dana Wait Contender series the year before.

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Speaker 3: Looke.

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Speaker 1: We don't know jack shit about his stamina, about his

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Speaker 1: wrestling game. We only know that he's got really weird

1162
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: spiderweb tats on his mid drift. Here, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is a Lewis who's won two of

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Speaker 1: his last three. It is a Lewis who's always gonna

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: have that puncher's chance. This is a very interesting matchup,

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Speaker 1: but one that we're going to pause here and come

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Speaker 1: back on the other side because our special guest has

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Speaker 1: arrived on this Friday. We're a little bit over a

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: week out from the July nineteenth PBC on Prime pay

1170
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Speaker 1: per View, which of course brings the return of Manny

1171
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: Pacquiao at forty six years old. You know who else,

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Speaker 1: it brings back the towering in Florno, Sebastian Fondora, the

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Speaker 1: elite junior middleweight, the world champion who in that co

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Speaker 1: main event will be taking on Tim Zoo for the

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Speaker 1: second time to defend that WBC title. Sebastian, thank you

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01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to join us. That

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: first fight was blood, guts, insanity. You weather the storm. Zoo,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, fought supremely well despite blood flowing in

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Speaker 1: his face the whole time. Tell us, because we're layman's here,

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Speaker 1: we're also lame, Sebastian, what the hell is it like

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Speaker 1: to be in old blood and guts war like that?

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: Because you always are smiling like you're having a good time.

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Speaker 3: It's just something we do, you know, as fighters. We

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 3: go on there and we break each other's faces and

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: it's just another day in the office.

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Speaker 1: There. It is just like that, all right. I mean

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Speaker 1: it is wild. I watched the Fantastic Gloves Off special

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: that Prime at PBC put out your episode with Tim

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Speaker 1: Zoos showing of course the great fundor family, the farm there,

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Speaker 1: the multiple world champions with your sister Gabrielle, and then

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Speaker 1: you've got a younger sister on the way as well.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about that life because it seems simple.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you're all about boxing and nothing else

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Speaker 1: besides family. Where does this come from. It was your

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Speaker 1: data fighter back in the day. He's the trainer, he's

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Speaker 1: the architect of this. It seems very pure and all

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Speaker 1: about the smoke. You're just boxers, that's what you are.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. What the video showed is

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Speaker 3: our lifestyle boxing. You know. Of course my father being

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Speaker 3: a professional fighter back when he was younger and now

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Speaker 3: being our coach definitely helped us become professional fighters or

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: want this career path for ourselves. But we've been doing

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Speaker 3: this our whole life as a family as well. So

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Speaker 3: it's just it's nice that all these dreams are come true,

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: my sister's dreams coming true, and now we have another

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Speaker 3: one coming in Fabiola Fondora. She's a twisted sister and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think she's she's the next big thing

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Speaker 3: in boxing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you cut Tim or Tim Zoo got cut,

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Speaker 4: I should say, in the course of this fight, and

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Speaker 4: for folks who have never seen it, it wasn't here.

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Speaker 4: It was on top of the head and it just

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Speaker 4: got blood everywhere? Did his amount of bleeding, which is

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Speaker 4: one of the most I've ever seen? Was that ever

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Speaker 4: distracting for you? I know you're focused, I know you're

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Speaker 4: a professional, but dude, that he had so much blood.

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Speaker 4: You were showered in blood by the time it was over.

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Speaker 3: It didn't distract me. I wasn't bleeding like that. Why

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Speaker 3: would it bothered me.

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Speaker 4: To watch a guy with blood gushing all over him

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Speaker 4: in highly unusual ways. I don't know that seems a

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Speaker 4: little distracting.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine if you're maybe not a boxer, but uh,

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Speaker 3: this is boxing. We get hit, there's gonna be damage,

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be blood, there's gonna be swelling. Those are

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Speaker 3: things that happen in combat sports.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's talk about some ex's and o's here.

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Speaker 4: When you fought him over the course of the twelve rounds,

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Speaker 4: what was the most important technical problem you had to

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Speaker 4: solve in order to win?

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was a problem. It was just

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: that I needed to stick to my game. I needed

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Speaker 3: my father to send me out there to box him.

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Speaker 3: We went there and we boxed them. Maybe in the

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Speaker 3: beginning we had a little rough start, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: anything too crazy.

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Speaker 10: In my mind.

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Speaker 4: In terms of what you had anticipated from tim Zo

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: and then what you ultimately got. Was it exactly what

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01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 4: you thought it would be or did you learn anything

1241
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: new about him through the course of that contest.

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Speaker 3: I think it was exactly what I thought it was

1243
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: gonna be. You know. Uh, he's a warrior, he was

1244
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: a world champion in Tienti fighter. We saw those things,

1245
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: but we adjusted and we're going to fight.

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Speaker 4: Where does that performance from you and that win rank

1247
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: in terms of your professional career. Is that your favorite

1248
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 4: win to date or is there a different one.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely not my favorite win, but it made me

1250
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: a unified world champion though. That's something I'm always gonna

1251
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: have to cherish. That's when the dream finally came true.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a testament to your belief in yourself, your

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: work ethic, your ability to bounce back because you took

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: that fight against tim Zoo on extreme last note, last

1255
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: minute notice. When Keith Thurman pulled out due to injury,

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Speaker 1: you got an opportunity to headline PBC's first pay per

1257
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: view in the prime era, but you were coming off

1258
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: of a knockout loss to Brian Mendoza that I think

1259
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: people who maybe didn't believe in you said, look, there's

1260
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Speaker 1: my proof, and you know, Sebastian, it seemed like a

1261
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: pretty devastating case. Oh how do you or how did

1262
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: you bounce back mentally regain your invincibility and say, yeah,

1263
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: not only am I okay fighting zoo last minute? Hey,

1264
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: if it gets blood and guts and it gets crazy,

1265
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm willing to thrive in there. That was impressive from

1266
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: the outside looking in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't really focus on the past, you know,

1268
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: with that fight, windows that happened. You know, a simple mistake,

1269
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: we're winning that fight pretty easy. But again, that simple

1270
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: mistake will cost you that fight, and we lost and

1271
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: accept that. But uh, you know, just like if I

1272
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: would have won the fight, we would have went back

1273
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: to the gym and started training again, and that's exactly

1274
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: what we did. They knocked on the door with the

1275
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: title fight, and of course we're not gonna say No,

1276
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: we were right there at that I mean we're intern

1277
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: rampion at the time, so we were ready for those fights.

1278
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: It's just you know, we tripped, but we got back up.

1279
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Speaker 1: Speaking of that first fight one more time, that cut

1280
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Speaker 1: changed a lot of things. It also ultimately changed your

1281
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: game plan as you really won that fight with your job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you had to be gnarally, you had to

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Speaker 1: take big punishment, you had to be willing to get

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Speaker 1: in there. But you always are to your credit. When

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Speaker 1: did that switch game plan wise where you're like, I

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: can keep him at distance with this big left hand

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Speaker 1: or the big right hand.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's just a I think there was a

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Speaker 3: plan from the beginning. Again, it just maybe I started

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01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: a little slower than I should have. But uhh, that

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 3: was always the plan from the beginning. That cut was there.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people like to bring up the cut,

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: but and a lot of people like to make excuses

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: for Tim. I mean he's saying now too, but uh

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01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: I remember everything around. He was staring at me pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I think if it was really that bad, or if

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Speaker 3: he really thought it was that hard, they would have

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Speaker 3: stopped the fight.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to critics who say before the cut,

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: Tim was having great success and looked like he was

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: hurting you, look like he was backing you up. How

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Speaker 1: do you respond to that?

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Speaker 3: Championship fights aren't two rounds. Yeah, you know, it's a

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Speaker 3: twelve round fight, and I felt won that fight pretty

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01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: fairly easy. But you know, with this fight, you guys

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: are gonna see a whole different fight. I look forward

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Speaker 3: to showing you guys next week for sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I look forward to seeing it. Sebastian, you better

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: believe that. I got to ask you how this fight

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Speaker 1: came together. You had two of four recognized belts in

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Speaker 1: this division. Xander Zaiyas was your mandatory. It looked like

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Speaker 1: it came to some negotiation, and then you announced the

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Speaker 1: Zoo rematch, which I'd prefer as a fan. How did

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Speaker 1: that break down behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: It's just really as simple as that. You know, with

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Speaker 3: you saying that as a fan, you're not the only

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Speaker 3: one thinking those things. There's bigger fights to be made.

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Speaker 3: You know, belts are nice, but I mean when you

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01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: have like legacy fights compared to those, everything's kind of extra.

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, you want to make a stamp in this sport.

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Speaker 3: I think this fight with Sue's definitely going to put

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01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: a bigger stamp than me defending my WBO with Zaias.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've you've mentioned that you got the chance

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: to become and you did become a unified champ, and

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Speaker 4: you're talking now about like there being legacy and other things.

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Speaker 4: If we've spoken five years right, five years from today,

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: what would you have want to accomplish? Like, what would

1328
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 4: be for you an ideal set of circumstances that would

1329
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: make you feel completely fulfilled as a boxing professional?

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Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: As of right now, I feel pretty fulfilled. But uh,

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Speaker 3: of course we continue, we continue to grow. Uh, we'll see,

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: we'll see in five years. Five years is a long time.

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff we could do in five years,

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 3: so you know, maybe multiple divisions or maybe on disputed

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: at this gay class. We'll see, we'll see. Five years

1337
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: is a long time. I think in one year you'll

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 3: see a big difference.

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Speaker 4: Do you want watch tape on your opponent?

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: Uh? Sometimes, but not really a big a big thing

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: for my camp. My father does a lot of the

1342
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: looking watching the face. Of course, I just have to

1343
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 3: listen to my dad. But uh, I watch, I watch boxing,

1344
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,480
Speaker 3: but I don't really watch my opponents.

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Speaker 4: Uh does he? Is he the one that comes up

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01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: with the game plan?

1347
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: Then? Of course? Of course, yeah, that's the head ons

1348
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Speaker 3: right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't want to get sideways with dad, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 4: Humor me, if you can here, put put on put

1352
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: on your boxing? Uh analyst, tie, if you would? Right

1353
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 4: here we have Sebastian Fundora, a champion, a world champion

1354
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Speaker 4: in boxing. Give me a sense of what you think

1355
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 4: about how competitive Canelo and Crawford is going to be

1356
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 4: in September.

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Speaker 3: Umm, I don't think it's gonna be. Maybe it might

1358
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: be competed the first four rounds. I want to see

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Speaker 3: how Crawford does going up to one sixty eight, how

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Speaker 3: comfortable he is, because from one forty seven to one

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: fifty four, those you see a slower pace in him.

1362
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: And now we're going two more weight classes up. Let's

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: see if this time he had of rest he can

1364
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: adjust to.

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Speaker 4: The weight class.

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Speaker 3: Because, uh, he's a fast fighter, he's a great fighter.

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Speaker 3: But Canello has been into this weight class for a while,

1368
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 3: He's been adjusted to his weight class. He's even fight

1369
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: at one seventy five. So we'll see if Crawford can

1370
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 3: make the adjustments at that weight, at that weight class,

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 3: because he's a great one forty seven, he's a good

1372
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Speaker 3: one fifty four. But is he good at one sixty eight?

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta find out. Keep your analyst tie on

1374
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: for a second. The main event next Saturday, July nineteenth,

1375
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: BBC on Prime pay per view. Of course is Manny

1376
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 1: Pacio at forty six, same age as me. By the way, Sebastian,

1377
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: I get in that ring only to interview you. That's

1378
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: about it. But the great pack, yeah, will be back

1379
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 1: challenging Mario Barrios for his welterweight world title. You're a fighter,

1380
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: he's got four years off, he's already accomplished everything. But

1381
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: many does seem like a one of one alien that

1382
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: if anybody could pull off something crazy like this, it

1383
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: might be him. How do you break this fight down

1384
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: when you look at it? What is this fight going

1385
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: to look like?

1386
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 3: To me? I see it as a fifty to fifty

1387
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: uh Barrios, maybe a forty five to fifty for Barrios.

1388
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: Barrios is young, bars is a strong champion, and he's

1389
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: been getting better with every fight. But Paca is Pacca.

1390
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 5: Of course.

1391
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: You know we saw him with Thurman. We did see

1392
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: him with Ugas, but uh, that's that's why it gives

1393
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: me a little question because of his last fight, you

1394
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: see the age a little bit and now he's even older.

1395
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: So we'll see how he comes up for this one.

1396
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 3: Hopefully he took that rest and now he's a bit

1397
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 3: more motivated. But again, Father Time is undefeated, so we

1398
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: will see.

1399
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: Two quick ones before we go. Sebastian, thank you so

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: much for your time. You're aligned with some very powerful people.

1401
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: You're great promoter, Samson, Luka Witz, Aljaiman PBC. But the

1402
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: boxing landscape is changing so quickly. Jake Paul's a power promoter.

1403
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: Turkey Alasikh is working with everyone, it seems. David Benevitez,

1404
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, David Morele Junior or a few others. Now

1405
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 1: you've got Dana White in the UFC coming in. What

1406
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: do you make of all this kind of crazy change

1407
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: to the foundation and the structure of what we're dealing

1408
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: with and making big fights.

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: It's different, It's definitely different. It's not what the I

1410
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: guess the boxing world is used to. But you know

1411
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 3: what is bringing in different fans, bringing in different people.

1412
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: It seems good for boxing, and if anything is good

1413
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: for boxing, I'm fine with it.

1414
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: All right, all right, finally to close here, Sebastian, you're

1415
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: six foot six man. I asked you in the past

1416
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: if you play hoops, if you got game, You're like,

1417
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't even think I could pick up a ball

1418
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: and dribble it. If we set up a hoop at

1419
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: ten feet, you gotta be able to dunk it. Come on,

1420
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: sev you know you can tell me what happens. Is

1421
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: this gonna look like white man can't jump?

1422
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 10: What is it?

1423
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: No? No, I could do it.

1424
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 4: I could do it.

1425
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: But right now, you know what, I'm not even caring

1426
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 3: about basketball. Look at a hat, Look at it. How

1427
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: I'm a baseball fan right now, That's what I care

1428
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: about that in boxing, those the only things that matter there.

1429
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: It is Sebastian Fundor. We can't wait. Just eight days

1430
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: from now the rematch with Tim Zuo to defend your

1431
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: WBC title at one fifty four. Maybe another Fight of

1432
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: the Year contender coming our way. Thank you for the time.

1433
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: Best of luck to you next week. Thank you, Brian,

1434
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: good stuff there from the Towering Inferno, all six six

1435
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,879
Speaker 1: of him. Luke, let's get back into our UFC Nashville preview,

1436
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,160
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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,240
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01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: won't blow you down, we set it up with Derek

1440
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 1: Lewis being the underdog here at plus two forty. He is,

1441
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: though riding a streak in which he's one two of three,

1442
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: he's on a little bit of an uptick. Luke, how

1443
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: much for the minus two ninety eight talis in? Should

1444
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: we be worried about the fact that he's never gotten

1445
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: out of the first round and that outside of taking

1446
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: one half of the Toritafa, Dude, he ain't fought anybody

1447
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: with a pulse.

1448
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, No, it's completely legitimate. There is simply

1449
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: no way to know and till we know, right, I mean,

1450
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,879
Speaker 4: that's just the reality. This is a sport where people's

1451
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: confidence you, confidence in you, I should say, pardon me,

1452
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: comes from being vetted, and he's not been vetted there

1453
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 4: in that way that Derek has been vetted. Derek, by

1454
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 4: the way, this is the light two sixty one is

1455
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 4: the lightest he's ever come in. So I was right

1456
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 4: about that.

1457
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: Now.

1458
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 4: It's not a huge amount, but certainly is somewhat noteworthy.

1459
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: But that's diarrhea.

1460
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: Never know, Yeah, listen, he might I had diarrhea before

1461
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 4: the show. You understand, Listen, I mean, if anybody understands,

1462
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: I mean, come on now. But what I'm just trying

1463
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 4: to be serious for a moment. Listen, what if he

1464
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 4: has to the point you raise me see what if

1465
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 4: his cardio falls off a cliff midway through second round?

1466
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: What if he gets taken down and looks like a

1467
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 4: fucking amateur. We don't know the answers to these, We

1468
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: just don't. So I can understand why. Then I can

1469
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: understand why the odds makers are the way they are

1470
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: because they're probably bidding on the fact that he's a

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: little bit more youthful, doesn't have as many miles on

1472
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 4: him relatively speaking through MMA anyway, and has a style

1473
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 4: that it's going to be a real problem for Derek.

1474
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 4: And what I think they're simultaneously betting is that Derek

1475
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 4: is you know, over the hill essentially that you know, yes,

1476
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: he is more proven, he is more vetted, he's got

1477
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: wins over better guys, but he's just a shell of himself.

1478
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 4: I think that's what they're kind of expecting here. I

1479
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 4: think you know, they're probably right, But certainly Derek Lewis

1480
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 4: has upset a lot of people in pretty big ways

1481
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 4: in the past.

1482
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not trying to say to Shrek can't fight

1483
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: and he can't punch. He's shown you that in the

1484
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: brief glimpses we've got. But Long Island. Look from a

1485
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: betting standpoint, again, plus two forty on the greatest knockout

1486
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: king in UFC history. Are you taking it?

1487
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1488
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 6: I got him at plus two thirty. I saw it

1489
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 6: just grew to plus two forty. But yeah, dude, it

1490
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 6: all comes down to the experience for me. Tyleson to

1491
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 6: Share has eight pro fights. Derek Luis has twenty nine

1492
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 6: fights in the UFC. He's got more than three times

1493
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 6: the amount of UFC fights as to Share has pro fights. Granted,

1494
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 6: he's forty years old, he may be over the hill,

1495
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 6: but I feel like, at the odds at heavyweight, you

1496
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 6: gotta take the plus money.

1497
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: Hey, if I'm him, I'm trying to take him down.

1498
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm trying to I will say this. Let me let

1499
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 4: me ask, well, what if Talison gets another first round KO,

1500
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: we would.

1501
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 6: That then we can be we can be really excited

1502
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 6: about his future. He's only twenty five years old. I'll

1503
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 6: look forward to.

1504
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna say. It still doesn't really answer some

1505
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 4: of the bigger questions that you're kind of hoping to

1506
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 4: get from Derek, Like what I hope this happens in

1507
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 4: this fight if nothing else we see win or lose,

1508
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: is that it goes to the second or third round.

1509
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: And yet something because he's not he's not really going

1510
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: to answer the wrestling questions unless to share A's wrestling

1511
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 4: is horrible, you know, but if it's serviceable, he should

1512
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: be fine. But it's like, what does he look like

1513
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 4: over the course of the distance. But if he I,

1514
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 4: this is Derek in the first round, you kind of

1515
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: have the same problem. Because I'm telling you the reason

1516
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 4: the odds look that way is not because people are like, oh,

1517
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 4: to share is the next coming of championship gold. They're

1518
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: looking at Derek and they're like, Eh, he's looking a

1519
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 4: little bit like food at the stage of his career.

1520
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 4: And whether or not that's fair, I think it's what

1521
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 4: they're doing.

1522
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: Well, the guy loves food. Let's be very honest with you. Okay,

1523
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. I mean, I'd take the

1524
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: gamble on him, but I'd also I got to see

1525
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: how good to share. It's gonna be a very very

1526
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: interesting fight for as long as it lasts. I hope

1527
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: Derek wrestles. I hope he tries hard in that regard

1528
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: to exposed to Sharon get him into the later rounds.

1529
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this comin event in the welterweight division

1530
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: as forty two year old Steven wonder Boy Thompson, the

1531
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: former two time title challenger, has lost four of his

1532
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: last five, and he will be a plus three point

1533
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: fifty underdog against Brazilian submission expert Gabrielle bone Feme, who

1534
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: comes in at nearly five the one the betting favorite

1535
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. Is this going to be a pretty good

1536
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: celebrity name to add to bone Theme's Wikipedia page here?

1537
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: Or can you see a path for wonder Boy to

1538
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: slow down this young aggressive fighter?

1539
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 4: What were the odds again?

1540
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: Minus four p fifty five bone fme plus three point

1541
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: fifty wonder Boys.

1542
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 5: Jesus.

1543
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 4: The thing is this, It's like I'm ready to believe

1544
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 4: that the bet the very best, even like the mostly

1545
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 4: best of Wonder Boy is behind us. Am I crazy

1546
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 4: in thinking that's a little bit too much confidence in

1547
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: bone Fme?

1548
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Am, I yes, but WonderBoy was stopped in his last

1549
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: two albeit submissioned by Shavcott knockout by Buckley.

1550
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think bone Theme should win this. I think

1551
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 4: that there are the chin of wonder Boy. He's hard

1552
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 4: to hit, obviously, but the chin is a little bit diminished.

1553
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 4: Plus people kind of know how to fight him now

1554
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: in ways that they didn't or you know, pretty long

1555
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 4: periods of time. But the time, you know, the era

1556
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 4: of him giving Woodley as a champion, all he could

1557
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 4: handle or at least, you know, something he could handle anyway,

1558
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 4: long since over now again Shoffcott, more proven, Buckley even

1559
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 4: despite his last fight, more proven Bonfeme to me, I

1560
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 4: don't know. This seems a little like I don't quite

1561
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 4: agree with the odds being where they are. However, However,

1562
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: I do think. I just feel like there's so much

1563
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 4: tape and Wonder Boy, without denial is simply in a

1564
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 4: much more diminished state than he has been, even even

1565
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: relative to a couple of years ago. Bonfim should win this.

1566
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, bone Fime or as they call him, Martina Luke,

1567
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: is that the nickname?

1568
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 4: I don't, Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know

1569
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 4: what that's supposed to be.

1570
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, three court Guese. He is seventeen and one overall

1571
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: as a professional. That only lost was three fights ago,

1572
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: two years ago to Nicholas Dalby via second round TKO with.

1573
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 4: Me, which was and that was a bad loss for me,

1574
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: Like that loss when I I remember watching it being like,

1575
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 4: you know, Dalby is not a technician. He's a grinder

1576
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 4: and a pursuer, but he's not a technician. And it's like,

1577
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 4: I just wonder what might happen against someone who is

1578
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 4: slick enough to set stuff up and then you know,

1579
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 4: hit you from angles. I guess we'll see, Yeah.

1580
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: We will see on that one. Continuing on don this

1581
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: card Long Island, Luke told us this week, I think,

1582
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: as did you, Luke, that we need to circle this

1583
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: featherweight matchup with Calvin Cater going in there against Steve Garcia.

1584
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: Garcia a minus one twenty five favorite to the plus

1585
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: one oh five Cater who is thirty seven years old,

1586
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: and I got bad news for you. He's lost four

1587
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: in a row, including five of his last six. Who's

1588
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 1: coming to going in this matchup.

1589
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 4: I like Garcia here. I think Cater is Listen, I

1590
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 4: think Cater's a great guy. We've both probably interviewed him

1591
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 4: a couple of times. He seems like a cool dude.

1592
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 4: His camp seems like a real great camp. Shouts to

1593
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: New England Cartel and Tyson Shardi. I like all of

1594
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 4: those guys, I really do. I'm not trying to be

1595
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 4: dismissive or insulting when I say this, but dude, like

1596
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 4: Cater's damaged, goods man, Like he has been beaten up

1597
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 4: a lot, and the Max fight is the one that

1598
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: everyone remembers, but like there's been a lot of these

1599
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 4: fights that have been too much damage incurred, and I

1600
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: just think it has derailed him at this point. I

1601
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 4: mean not thinking. I'm not saying I don't think this

1602
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: fight is unwinnable, that that would be a little crazy,

1603
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 4: but I think he's on the other side of something

1604
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: and it's going to be very difficult even to hold

1605
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 4: on to what he has.

1606
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Steve Garcia has won five in a row, all by stoppage,

1607
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: putting one against Chase Hooper to kick off that streak.

1608
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: This would be a much bigger name for him to

1609
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: add to that. But you know Cater's going to be

1610
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: game and willing to go for it.

1611
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 4: That's the problem. Yeah, that is that's the problem. Yeah.

1612
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: And we are told by Long Island Luke that mahatinya

1613
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: means little hammer like maheta ball.

1614
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 4: He's asking he doesn't know.

1615
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was describing the Portuguese for us.

1616
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know. I don't know.

1617
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Maybe there's an Australian equivalent that he knew. I don't know, uh, Luke.

1618
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: Nate the Train in the UFC is back at featherweight,

1619
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: Nate Land where we'll take on Morgan, Do I say.

1620
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 4: Charier, Charier Cherier? I think, yeah, Cheri a uh, you

1621
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 4: care about this?

1622
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: I always care when Nate the Train is.

1623
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an interesting one. Charier is like a

1624
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 4: little bit of a slickster when it comes to striking.

1625
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: Not it's not super great at it, but he's got

1626
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 4: a little bit of it in him. And you know,

1627
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 4: we all know what the Nate landwear experience is. The

1628
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 4: locomotive just keeps on moving, although he's got some slickness

1629
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 4: to his game in certain respects. But you know it,

1630
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if a guy like Cherier can with well,

1631
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 4: what are the odds on this one? Because my hunch

1632
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: is that Charier is not Land Weir has had some

1633
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: rougher patch more recently. However, Cheria, I don't know if

1634
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 4: he's able to handle the pressure of someone like this

1635
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 4: consistently of a fifth team minutes. We're the odds on

1636
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 4: this one.

1637
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: According to draft I don't have draft kings in front

1638
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: of me, Luke.

1639
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 6: Do you have a long Island I got it's plus

1640
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 6: two to ten Nate minus two fifty eight.

1641
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 4: Oh that high?

1642
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Nate's a pretty big I mean.

1643
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you feel about that long ond, Luke?

1644
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 4: Because again, I do think Cherier is the more polished

1645
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 4: of the two, and that typically ends up being Land

1646
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: Where's kryptonite. But I don't know if he's fought someone

1647
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 4: who just will bark at him rot the whole kind

1648
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: of time.

1649
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 6: I think it's because Nate's coming off that stoppage loss

1650
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 6: to Dujo Choi in which he kind of got dominated.

1651
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 5: So I feel like.

1652
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 6: Stock is low in Nate right now. But I think

1653
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 6: it's closer than the odds. I'm staying away from it.

1654
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 6: Super Boy is a puncher, do you remember he got

1655
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 6: him in a crucifix though, and finished him in a

1656
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 6: crucifix It was he finished him on the ground.

1657
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but he fucked him up on the

1658
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 4: feet too, like I mean, it wasn't one of the.

1659
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 5: Other Yeah, I mean, but Morgan's gonna fuck him up

1660
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 5: on the feet too, probably.

1661
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: So Sharier has lost two of his last three though,

1662
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: and he calls himself the last pirate.

1663
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 4: It's interesting, dude, the whole pirate gimmick him and Charyl Bullet.

1664
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, I don't know who needs to tell

1665
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 4: you this. Pirates are lame as fuck. It's the r

1666
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 4: with the Maidens. Hey, take off that fucking bandana and

1667
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 4: stop playing Dungeons and Dragons, thank you.

1668
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: Uh, there we go with that. Wow. But last time

1669
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: we saw Derek Lewis, by the way, I believe it

1670
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: was the last time he showed us a lot of himself.

1671
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Can we recall that moment? Look? That was brief? Uh, Lucas.

1672
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: If he does upset Talis into Shara, he's gotta go

1673
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: full Monty, right, That's the only move left in the playbook.

1674
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 4: Is straight up asking me on a Friday morning, if

1675
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis wins. Does he need to masturbate in front

1676
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 4: of everybody? And I'm like, that's free, that's for you

1677
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 4: at the bus stop, buddy.

1678
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: All right, real question if he knocked out to Shara

1679
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: and then went full hog not not to touch the thing,

1680
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: just to show.

1681
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure the sponsor loves this converse.

1682
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Does he get does he lose his job? Does he

1683
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: get arrested? What happens next? You don't get in trouble

1684
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: in the uf Steve, Yeah.

1685
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean you do UFC. You got to

1686
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 4: kill a guy before then, and even then they'll bail

1687
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 4: you out and let you fight. So no, I don't

1688
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 4: think you'd be an antrol, but you know to your

1689
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 4: point there will be there will be anttics. How about

1690
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 4: that euphemistically?

1691
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 12: There will be antics Long Island, Luke, let us know

1692
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 12: in the early way and results that Cheety and Jakwani

1693
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 12: and his welter weight out against Jake Matthews has missed

1694
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 12: weight by a half pound, coming in at one seventy

1695
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 12: one point five.

1696
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: We'll keep you updated with any other changes. What else

1697
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: are we caring about on this card, Luke? I mean

1698
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: Max Griffin, Chris Curtis, is becoming some trash talk fueled

1699
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: action at welterweight that we're going to see in that future.

1700
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Pre lib.

1701
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 4: I've been talking to Chris Curtis all week and you know,

1702
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 4: just a reminder he's going to welterweight in this fight,

1703
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 4: which you know he went like one in three and

1704
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 4: in the PFL and I wasn't too sure about it,

1705
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 4: and checking in on him every day quite literally about

1706
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 4: his weightcut. It has gone exceedingly well. I don't know

1707
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 4: has he weighed already Long Island.

1708
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 5: Luke, Yeah, the wigns are over. Everyone made wait except shitty.

1709
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, So I mean he told me. I

1710
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 4: think yesterday he woke up at one seventy point six,

1711
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 4: so the weight cut went super smooth for him. Now

1712
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 4: that doesn't tell you everything. I think Max Griffin is

1713
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 4: going to be on him and try and wrestle him,

1714
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 4: like why on Rice? So his gas tank is gonna

1715
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 4: get tested in here. You know, you can get stalled out.

1716
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 4: And you know, this is a big fight for Chris

1717
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: Curtis because he's getting older. He's trying to shake things

1718
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 4: up here a little bit. The thing that's held him

1719
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 4: back is the body punching. I don't know if the

1720
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 4: judge is really recognize it even when it's valuable, and

1721
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 4: it takes him some time occasionally to get things going.

1722
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 4: And Griffin is the kind of guy who can just

1723
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 4: stall you out even if he can't do necessarily a

1724
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 4: lot of damage. So it's a bit of a trickier

1725
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 4: fight than it looks, But at least in terms of

1726
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 4: the weightcut, Chris Curtis looks pretty ready.

1727
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Look if Topouria had missed weight against Olivera, do you

1728
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: think he would have took one of those blinking lights

1729
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: from chef Cass and put it on his balls and

1730
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: knocked him out and blamed him publicly.

1731
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna lose this sponsor, and I don't blame him,

1732
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1733
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, Sorry about that Long Island looke. Do you have

1734
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: anything else to say about betting bangers on this undercard?

1735
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 5: Betting bangers not so much.

1736
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 6: I do like Jake Matthews as a dog, especially now

1737
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 6: that in Joquani misswait Junior Tafa we mentioned earlier in

1738
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 6: the week making his light heavyweight debut.

1739
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 5: That could be something new and exciting. I don't know.

1740
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 5: Tima Klein Long Island's own opening the card.

1741
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 6: She's like a minus one thousand favorites, so you know whatever,

1742
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 6: but she's pretty good.

1743
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 5: Shout out, Yeah, she's really good.

1744
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. All right, let's go to topic

1745
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: number four. It got bat you crazy yesterday. I was

1746
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: here for most of it, but I'm excited to hear

1747
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: what Luke has to say. B k FC put together

1748
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: what can only be called craziness. It was a summit meeting.

1749
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: It was a they called it the Champion Summit, in

1750
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: which Connor McGregor, David Feldman and company gave a state

1751
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: of the Promotion address, and from the intense fireworks that

1752
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: were shown between McGregor and Mike Perry to a comically

1753
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: sad vibe overall that screamed strip club buffet with a

1754
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: side of white light. And this thing was the kind

1755
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: of embarrassing train wreck that you couldn't avoid that only

1756
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: the state of Florida could normalize. Shout out to Hollywood

1757
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: down there. Oh yeah. They also announced a twenty five

1758
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: million dollar Baddest Man Tournament beginning in March of next

1759
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 1: year that will feature thirty two competitors and our first prize.

1760
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: And this is no joke of fifteen million dollars. Luke Thomas,

1761
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: considering how much we talk about the lack of legitimate

1762
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: competition for the UFC in the MMA space, what type

1763
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: of potential disruptor do you believe this BKFC ambitious tournament

1764
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: could be in the overall combat sports news cycle next year?

1765
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 4: They have to pull it off, right, So I agree

1766
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 4: with you. I looked at that prize money. I mean,

1767
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 4: I think it's fifteen million for the winner, and I

1768
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 4: think the runner up also gets a million, and but

1769
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 4: then it's still some pretty high prizes even up to

1770
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 4: I forget how much every participant gets. There's a breakdown

1771
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: of it. I think Ben de bayin Davis has one,

1772
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 4: if you guys want to see it. It's interesting, it's

1773
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 4: an interesting concept. Fifteen million is going to be the

1774
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 4: most that those guys who are competing in that have

1775
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 4: probably ever gotten or will ever get.

1776
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: That's the most that any UFC fighter has ever gotten, right,

1777
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, right?

1778
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, No, it's absolutely that's the case. You know,

1779
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 4: maybe Connor would be a little bit different, but even

1780
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 4: then it would be quite competitive.

1781
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the outside of the uf nine's main event.

1782
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's ever made that.

1783
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. I mean, I mean it's it's extremely dude.

1784
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: That's like, that's a very good boxer. Money much less,

1785
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 4: you know, bare knuckle. I mean, it's got to be

1786
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 4: a record for bare knuckle. And so the pun training

1787
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 4: to make is like this this kind of tournament where

1788
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna have ostensibly a bunch of different figures, you

1789
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 4: got a real prize at the end. Now they got

1790
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 4: to pull it off. BC, they got to do it big.

1791
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 4: We've seen them do it big. They can do that,

1792
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 4: and they have to get a little lucky. Everybody knows.

1793
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 4: What makes the tournament magic is Yes, the promoter promotes it,

1794
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 4: they set up the brackets right, you got the right names.

1795
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 4: But at some point it just kind of has to

1796
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 4: unfold in a way that makes sense for everybody. So

1797
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 4: it's really going to come down to who's in this tournament,

1798
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 4: how they're matched up, what kind of things they deliver.

1799
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 4: But to the answer the question, you know, to succeed

1800
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 4: in the way that you're talking about, it requires a lot.

1801
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 4: What I will say is this tournament, if executed well

1802
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 4: and with a little bit of luck behind it, dude,

1803
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 4: it could do a lot. It could be I I

1804
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 4: you know, I poo poo them for other reasons. They

1805
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 4: signed Jamil Herring, who was fresh off a domestic violence arrest,

1806
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 4: because it's just combat sports these days. You got to

1807
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,879
Speaker 4: love Hitler or be racist to get a job, apparently.

1808
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 4: But they they know how to deliver action. They've proven

1809
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 4: that and they've guys, we indicated real prize money at

1810
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 4: the end PFL, you know, just puts. I think Dan

1811
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 4: Hardy is doing his level best to make the product better,

1812
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 4: and he is, but I think to MMA fans it

1813
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 4: just doesn't feel like a useful alternative to UFC BKFC

1814
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 4: could do interesting things. So we can't say at the

1815
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 4: outset what's going to happen. But what I can say

1816
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 4: is are the ingredients there to make a quantum leap

1817
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: forward for the brand? Yes?

1818
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: And look, this press conference was full of out of

1819
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: control fireworks that at the end of the day I

1820
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: didn't hate. But dude, they have cornered the market. They

1821
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: know exactly who they are. They are a trashy pro

1822
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: wrestling style presentation using you know, combat names we know

1823
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: and to some degree like it depends on the names

1824
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: in this tournament. What weight class is it going to be?

1825
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 4: Did they say that it's open weight? Is it not

1826
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 4: that I missed that part?

1827
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like one eighty five to two sixty five,

1828
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 5: I think.

1829
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's open way. Yeah, which, which, by the way,

1830
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 4: this is what I mean, And it's one of the

1831
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 4: things that one did well, you know, one having a

1832
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 4: different scoring criteria, different rules set. You know, the hydration

1833
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 4: thing was stupid, but everything else has been kind of interesting.

1834
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 4: A genuine alternative gamifying mma with lesser names, not always

1835
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 4: but often lesser names is not a real alternative, but

1836
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 4: a bare knuckle thing with an open weight system. Dude,

1837
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna get some interesting results out of that,

1838
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 4: some predictable ones too, obviously, But this is what I

1839
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: mean as a who can provide a genuine alternative to

1840
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 4: what UFC is doing. BKFC again has the ingredients.

1841
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if they bring in boxers. I wonder if

1842
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: you bring in you know, you know, think about older names.

1843
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 4: Here's the prize first place, fifteen million, second place, a million,

1844
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 4: third and fourth, five hundred k, fifth through a, three

1845
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 4: hundred k, ninth through sixteenth, two hundred k, seventeen through

1846
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 4: thirty second one hundred k, So if you're in this

1847
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 4: tournament that they basically so you get one hundred k

1848
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 4: alternates fifty k. Dude. Those are no bullshit. Those are

1849
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 4: no bullshit perses. That is a legitimate fucking prize, Dude.

1850
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if they bring in every free agent and

1851
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: combat sports possible who has a name, even if you're old.

1852
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: The weight classes seem to be you know, what do

1853
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you say one eighty five to heavyweight there like people

1854
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: age later more gracefully. I wonder if they're going to

1855
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: attract a lot of names with this, but it was

1856
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: part of a larger announcement with for a lot of things.

1857
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: I think two divisions they're going to do a four

1858
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: man tournament to crown a new champion there where the

1859
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: title is vacant. They also announced four big signings long

1860
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: on look if we can show that graphic of former

1861
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: MMA names Joel Romero, Maheta, Tiago Santo's, Derek Cisco Brunson

1862
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 1: and Aspin lad Luke. I know none of those four

1863
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: names are in their marketable or critical prime, but those

1864
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: are names that I'll tune in for, and I know

1865
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: not all of those are going to be in this tournament. Well,

1866
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: but a few of them probably will be.

1867
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm nonplussed by those names. Those names don't do shit

1868
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 4: for me.

1869
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 1: But if three of the four of those are in

1870
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the heavyweight, this open weight tournament, whatever it is, I'm

1871
01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: into it, all right, I'm into it.

1872
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. They didn't do much for me,

1873
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 4: but that doesn't matter. Like the question is what they

1874
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 4: do for the market, and that remains to be seen.

1875
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: But I will say this, and I think you would agree.

1876
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 4: They need a couple of really interesting names in this tournament.

1877
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 4: And I don't know who that would be. I don't

1878
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 4: know who's available. I'm not sure what that looks like,

1879
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 4: but they do. They need some names and fans go,

1880
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 4: WHOA that is surprising, like the you know when like

1881
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 4: when Pauli Moulnaji fought Ardam Lobov. I know he lost,

1882
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 4: but it was like a really interesting moment where it's like, whoa,

1883
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 4: this is like there was intrigue to it based on

1884
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 4: his background. You need something like that.

1885
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Let's get Francis and Gano in this.

1886
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 4: Dude, who the fuck wants to fight Francis bare knuckle?

1887
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, fifteen million is potentially just sign Just

1888
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 13: sign up for a fucking you know, guillotine the French

1889
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 13: Revolution style, like I mean, you know who the fuck

1890
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 13: you bet.

1891
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: Kimbo wasn't around, and you know, close to forty, because

1892
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: that'd be perfect right there. This had off the charts craziness.

1893
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's open with Connor McGregor's opening statement.

1894
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 14: Here, what's good, Hollywood? Where as you can see beside

1895
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 14: me and.

1896
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 15: In front of me some of the baddest men and

1897
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 15: women to ever grace planet Earth. This is what we're

1898
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 15: about here at bar Knuckle Fighting Championship, the Alien of

1899
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 15: Combat Sport.

1900
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 5: And may we rise above the night sky and rain.

1901
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 15: Down blows viciously on all our denials, and announce here

1902
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 15: today that bare knuckle left c has no love for

1903
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 15: the big glove.

1904
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 14: So let's get comb bernuckle.

1905
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 15: Let's go Florida, and let's announce some incredible matchups, some shock.

1906
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 14: Signings, and the most lucrative tournament.

1907
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 15: In all of combat sport, where we crown in an

1908
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 15: open weight the baddest.

1909
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 12: Man on the planet.

1910
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 5: Let's go give it up.

1911
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Come on, look, I know that guy's a pos I

1912
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: know we're more done with him than need him. I

1913
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: know he's still talking about coming back and fighting on

1914
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: the White House lawn. But he's perfect for this circus.

1915
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: He really is. You can't you can't deny that the

1916
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: hooked up Hunter is perfect for this circus.

1917
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 4: He's using this whole thing to launder his image. I

1918
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 4: hope everybody knows that, right. I mean, the guy keeps

1919
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 4: taking l's in court over serious allegations about and now

1920
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 4: civil well I'm not sure what the proper word would be,

1921
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 4: but being held liable in a civil court, you know,

1922
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 4: and then having a disaster of an appeal scenario where

1923
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 4: you know we've been over it. This is designed to

1924
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 4: launder his image. However, to your point, I mean, here's

1925
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 4: what's missing. He's got a bit of a celebrity factor.

1926
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 4: And you're right, he's got like the whole trashy thing.

1927
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 4: It works for this brand. But if I can be

1928
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 4: serious on one level, Bro, he just has energy. He

1929
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 4: just has energy. He comes in there in.

1930
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Fight and I wish he could get out of his

1931
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: UFC deal and fight and BKFC. I think it would

1932
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: be insane to watch.

1933
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 4: Well, I don't need to see him fight ever again.

1934
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 4: But the but to your point, I think Dans would

1935
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 4: be interested in that if that's what you're the more

1936
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 4: the point you're making, and what's the point, Like this

1937
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 4: is what I mean. Guys aren't showing up and being like,

1938
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 4: all right, who's got the first question? He's going in there,

1939
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 4: he's got rhymes, he's got he's like his veins bulging

1940
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 4: out of his neck as he screams. And you know

1941
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 4: that's not going to appeal to every fan. But someone

1942
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,759
Speaker 4: is trying to pump some life into a fight promotion.

1943
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, among other reasons, it's why it's

1944
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 4: kind of working. To say nothing of the fact that

1945
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 4: they're right that tournament that they structured a monitary standpoint

1946
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 4: is no bullshit.

1947
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: That's great. We also saw him nearly come to blows

1948
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: with Mike Perry. It was crazy. Let's listen to this.

1949
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're welcome back because I welcomes you back. October

1950
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 14: eleventh is your date, and you'll dance for me.

1951
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 13: Why you'll dance for the owner and.

1952
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 5: Then we can talk.

1953
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 14: But your date is October eleventh, Michael Perry the Ratana,

1954
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 14: and we've got some hell of an announcement from an

1955
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 14: opponent for you, one of the pottest men to have

1956
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 14: a gray Steeldmate Fighting Championship for the Home to Bare Knuckle,

1957
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 14: and he's gonna troll down with you in front of

1958
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 14: me for my view and pleasure. Then I'll decide if

1959
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 14: you're worthy.

1960
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: Dance for me. Who is it? Who's his opponent that's

1961
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 1: a badass x UFC Or is it gonna be Tony Ferguson.

1962
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, that would be incredibly sad.

1963
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Ferguson's taking a boxing match, he said, coming up.

1964
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.

1965
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Perry seemed to also work himself into a shoe against

1966
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: David Mundell, the BKFC middleweight champion who goes by the

1967
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 1: nickname Redneck. Watch this respect, keep.

1968
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 14: Respectus are real to Leo Mockers right here till the

1969
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 14: LEAs pottest motherfucker's in the game right here.

1970
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: Party should on many a time.

1971
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 5: I've got real respect.

1972
01:39:53,880 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 4: He down fucking don't get, don't get, don't get. Manto

1973
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 4: and Perry.

1974
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 10: It's a fight.

1975
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to.

1976
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 4: See Nardo help.

1977
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 5: Let's bring him out.

1978
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: It's a hell of an advertisement for his cook dealer, Luke.

1979
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: Did you see that movie at the end? That's wild bro. Anyway,

1980
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Gerry Derry, He's like he's like goal for it, gal

1981
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: for it now, not here now. Then he turns into

1982
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: Dave Shaller between Jones and Corny. It was great, dude.

1983
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I'm into this absolute bullshit.

1984
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 1: We don't even have the clip of Christine Ferrea tell

1985
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: him that chick that she swallowed too much cum. But

1986
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 1: that also happened in this past conference.

1987
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 4: You know, I had such a good joke and I

1988
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 4: have to shield it because of the North Korean censors. Okay,

1989
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: that's all I'm gonna say.

1990
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: Uh, that's crazy. I cannot wait to find out who's

1991
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: in that tournament. Thank you BKFC for being exactly as

1992
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 1: weird as you are and making cocaine friendly kid. Oh

1993
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: my god.

1994
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 10: Wow.

1995
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,480
Speaker 1: All right, Topic number five, we go from the ridiculous

1996
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 1: to the inspirational in a lot of ways. We've chronicled,

1997
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: of course, the very serious health turn for former UFC fighter,

1998
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: former Belator champion, and one FC veteran Ben Askrin, who

1999
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: ended up needing double lung transplants after a very hilacious

2000
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: infection that led to pneumonia and so much more that

2001
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: went on there, and he also was denied insurance coverage

2002
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: of that and reportedly needed a multimillion dollar payout from

2003
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: a benefactor that has not become public in order to

2004
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: get that. Then Ben gave his first video update, and

2005
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: it is humbling, inspirational, and gnarly all at the same time.

2006
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Here's Ben askering, in his own words from the hospital

2007
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: bed as he continues to fight this battle out.

2008
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 11: What's the guys have not given you an update in

2009
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 11: a while? Figured you deserve one whenever, since it's all

2010
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 11: the way over. I actually just read through my wist

2011
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 11: journal because I don't remember anything from July two. No recollection,

2012
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 11: new idea, no idea, what happened. We'll kind of go

2013
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 11: through it all and to I just read through my

2014
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 11: wife journal.

2015
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 4: It's like it's like a movie.

2016
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 11: It's ridiculous. So I only died four times or the

2017
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 11: ticker stopped for about twenty seconds.

2018
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 4: That's the ideal.

2019
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 5: I don't guys you know that.

2020
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 4: But I got to double long transplant.

2021
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 11: I made it out to the other side of it,

2022
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 11: gaining quite a strength, wanning to use everything again. I

2023
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 11: was actually honest killy yesterday hundred forty seven pounds. I've

2024
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 11: been on forty seven pounds since fifteen years old, so

2025
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 11: I was like.

2026
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Fifty pounds.

2027
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 4: About it.

2028
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 11: So man, that was a that was a battle other

2029
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 11: Really I don't remember.

2030
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 7: Most of it, and uh, you know, the thing that

2031
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 7: was most impactful to me was although the love I

2032
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 7: thought from everybody, and it's almost like it was almost like.

2033
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 4: I got there my own fever room.

2034
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 2: Right.

2035
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 11: I still remember it thirty years ago when day Fields

2036
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 11: died and you were listening to all these older people,

2037
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 11: you know, recollect how much they enjoyed.

2038
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 5: Him, that what they loved him.

2039
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 11: And you know, obviously he never read to hear that.

2040
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure some people hold of him.

2041
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 7: But so man, the outboard love from the wrestling community

2042
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,799
Speaker 7: of his it was just amazing, so good.

2043
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 11: And so you know, I'm more otraged than ever to

2044
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 11: keep giving, get back and do what I can and.

2045
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 3: Help out the best second help out.

2046
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 4: I love you guys.

2047
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 11: I appreciate you, guys, his intense and talk.

2048
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 7: Not only I'm even my whole family at night, close

2049
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 7: community here. So I appreciate everything. I hope you guys

2050
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 7: appreciate the up day. And like I said, sometime down

2051
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 7: the road, maybe Amy and I can detail everything.

2052
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 11: A little more.

2053
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 1: You there, Yeah, I can hear you. There's a side

2054
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: of you that's happy, and you know, it's inspirational to see.

2055
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: There's the other side of you that's sad to see

2056
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: a forty year old man who was in great health,

2057
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: a great athlete in that position. Thank God, he's you know,

2058
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: still fighting and recovering. But this is scary. It went

2059
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: from pneumonia to a staff infection and then, like we said,

2060
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: the instant need for a double lung transplant. A lot

2061
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: of luck had to come his way to even get that,

2062
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 1: and obviously he's gonna need continued prayers and luck for

2063
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: the lungs to continue to work. But I don't even

2064
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: know what to say, Luke, I'm humbled watching that.

2065
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 4: Wow, man, it's a miracle. He's alive, you know, and

2066
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 4: it's a wonderful miracle, of course, but it's a miracle

2067
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 4: like I don't know how many people would have been

2068
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 4: able to survive something like that. Dude, To lose or

2069
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 4: fifty pounds and forty five days or whatever, it was

2070
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 4: basically more than a pound a day. It's insane, Dude,

2071
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 4: that is insane, to say nothing of the fact that

2072
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: you have two lungs that you were not born with,

2073
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 4: to say nothing of the fact that like, you know,

2074
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,759
Speaker 4: your body's probably been ravaged and put through the ringer.

2075
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 4: I mean, the recovery is going to be slow and

2076
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 4: probably take some time. I don't know what, you know,

2077
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 4: I don't know what a best case scenario looks like.

2078
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't I don't you know, I mean, I I don't,

2079
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I can just say I think

2080
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 4: I you know, I think a lot of people probably

2081
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 4: would say this more like, dude, what a fighting spirit

2082
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 4: this guy has inside of him?

2083
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 5: Huh?

2084
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: Pretty pretty incredible, pretty incredible that he was able to

2085
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 4: do this, And just it just bothers me so much.

2086
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 4: And I probase, I'll just say it one time and

2087
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 4: I'll leave it alone. But the fact that the insurance

2088
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 4: denied him, the insurance took a look at his life

2089
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 4: and said it's okay for you to die, And this

2090
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 4: seems to me unforgivable and not a civilized way to

2091
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 4: organize the society. I'll leave it at that, But it

2092
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 4: really really bothers me that that happened. However, to the

2093
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 4: point you raise, at least he had enough of a

2094
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 4: public profile that he was able to find, you know,

2095
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 4: a way to get this paid for. So whoever paid

2096
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 4: for that. Thank you. That's an incredible gesture. You saved

2097
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 4: a guy's life. Literally, who do the organs to that?

2098
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 4: I mean this, yeah, yeah, you're right, You're so You're

2099
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 4: so right, You're so, I mean And again, the doctors

2100
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 4: and the nurses who've been watching him and tried to

2101
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 4: keep him alive, like everybody here is owed a dead

2102
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 4: of gratitude. But I'll just say, Ben, it's so nice

2103
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: to hear from you. Please keep us up up dated

2104
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 4: when you can take your time to heal. And while

2105
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 4: it was sobering to watch that BC, I have to

2106
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 4: say I'm so glad that he was able to have

2107
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 4: the strength to deliver a message to the public like that.

2108
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 4: And for everyone watching too. Man, dude, I don't know

2109
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 4: how you felt, Mec, but like in my late teens

2110
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 4: and early twenties, like I just was, I felt invincible.

2111
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 4: And then the older you get, like the it's like

2112
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 4: when everyone's life is different. But like when I was

2113
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 4: a kid, I didn't know personally anybody who had cancer.

2114
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 4: I didn't know personally people who had suffered like tragedies

2115
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 4: like this, you know, And now the older I get,

2116
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people where terrible shit has

2117
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 4: happened to them, and it just really reminds you, like,

2118
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 4: oh my god, dude, everything we have can be taken

2119
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 4: in an absolute instant when you least expect it, when

2120
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 4: you think that's the most improbable, when it's never top

2121
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 4: of mind. It can all be taken like that.

2122
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 1: So if it's in perspective the problems, the battles we

2123
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: have day to day, and you know, not only our

2124
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: first world lives, but you know, even think of things

2125
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: that are serious like losing your job or this and that,

2126
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it all pales in comparison

2127
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 1: to when it hits you right in the face and

2128
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: it's and it's time to fight to survive. And and yeah,

2129
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: obviously our prayers are out to him his wife Amy,

2130
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: who you know, must be going through it on a

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01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: level we can't even imagine his kids and all that.

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01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: And you know, he mentioned he got to hear some

2133
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: of the support that people never get to hear when

2134
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: they when they die young like this. And I saw

2135
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: a very heartfelt video from Corey Anderson basically you know,

2136
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: giving Astrocren credit for his entire career in MMA and

2137
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: the inspiration and the help that he got early on,

2138
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 1: and it was great to hear that as well. I've

2139
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: always really liked Ben as a personality as a fighter,

2140
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: never you know, really got to know him or anything.

2141
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: But damn damn man. Quick tweet from Jake Paul, who

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01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 1: ex opponent who also supported it, said, shout out just

2143
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: proved that he's one of the toughest fighters of all time.

2144
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 1: I didn't love where Jake was kind of calling out

2145
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,560
Speaker 1: Dana White at that Shavis press conference. And you know,

2146
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know who ultimately came through and helped Ben out,

2147
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: but God bless who ever did in the end, and

2148
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: if Jake was a part of that or even you know,

2149
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: bringing more eyeballs to it, I can certainly respect that.

2150
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: But uh, damn Ben, keep fighting, keep fighting, man. There

2151
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: is a lot to live for always, and uh I'm

2152
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: hoping these lungs take and that that health and damn

2153
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: damn Luke. Okay, it is what it is, but damn man. Right, Wow,

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01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: all right, we close this loaded Friday Joe with our

2155
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: pair of fan segments and Morning Combat at gmail dot

2156
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: com is your entry into Mikey's inbox and your chance

2157
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: to show him exactly what your cubes look like. I

2158
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: mean it's happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again.

2159
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: We're not always right. We get a lot of facts wrong.

2160
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: This is our chance to be accountable, to be humble,

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01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,839
Speaker 1: and to maybe take that l It's called dead wrong.

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01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 4: Then wrong.

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01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: There it is JP, JPIQ at the house. He says,

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01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: good day, Luke, BC and Diggity Donk Nation You're twenty

2165
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: twenty two MK CODONK of the Year JP calling BC

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01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: out on the dead wrong on Monday Show at one

2167
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 1: eight after DMS BC said that was your fan submissions

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01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: for the week incorrect segment BC as mentioned it was

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01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: DMS from Donks Mount fan subb's not the biggest wrong,

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01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: but wanted to contribute much love from JP and don

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01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: the boss lady MK in your house, let's get that

2172
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: campaign going. Donks shout out to the Pacats up there

2173
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: in Mount You Nike, Luke, but I am dead wrong

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01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: in that instance.

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01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 4: It happen all right. I'm not the biggest mistake.

2176
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: But very pedantic, but great to catch up with our

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: good friend JP. Let's hear from Nick from Virginia in

2178
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: a dead wrong that Jasper Peter and Michael Omo also

2179
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: wrote in Nick says for the first time in a

2180
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: long time, I'm here, and I'm here to serve BC

2181
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: his own butt. On Monday's episode at thirty one minutes

2182
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: and a few ticks in Lucas, BC, if Pourier Holloway

2183
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: three will go the distance, BC states it should go

2184
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: the distance, as both of their previous fights went the distance. BC,

2185
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: you framed dead Joe Broni. Though the second fight did

2186
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,679
Speaker 1: go the distance, their first fight ended in the first

2187
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: round with Puawewe mounting Holloway with a gnarly triangle arm bar.

2188
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: If a fight between two female straweights ended in that fashion,

2189
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: I guarantee you would remember it. And I don't want

2190
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: to hear any o oozer oz from LT because he

2191
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: didn't catch your blunder in real time. I bet the

2192
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: first ingredient on that screaming freedom is led. You guys

2193
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 1: are great till next time. Smoke grass and eat ass

2194
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: and ps Long Island, Luke, put down that bong and

2195
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 1: pick up some roses for your gal. You sat excuse

2196
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 1: for a second generation horned up Assie. Holy shit, Nick

2197
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: just jumped off the top rope. Look Long, Look you're

2198
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 1: taking that.

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 5: I'll take that because that was pretty funny.

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01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: That's well done there, all right. Let's hear from Aaron

2201
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 1: who goes by big as a G, big as a G,

2202
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: big as a g. H. He says at forty four

2203
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: to fifty three on Thursday July third, BC said, while

2204
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: talking about Islam moving to welterweight, if Islam wins the

2205
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 1: championship against DDP, hey, BC, you might have forgot that

2206
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 1: he's old in that. But DDP is the middleweight champion

2207
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: and the not the welterweight champion. That's the great almighty

2208
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:34,879
Speaker 1: JDM Jack Dela Madalena love it Love from Australia, especially

2209
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: to Long Island. Luke, it's big as a G. Yeah,

2210
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: I'll take that, l I said, yeah, I said it. Okay,

2211
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Daz. He's gonna mahala waur ass and

2212
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 1: give us a maybe a blest from the past, right yeah,

2213
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: okay uh, he says at one fifty of Thursday's July

2214
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: third show. Luke is going over the MK fans up

2215
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: from Allen w and he mentions weird ass scorpion Chuck Mindenhall.

2216
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Luke must be confused is because Chuck in the blue

2217
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: costume was clearly sub zero, while Bronsteader in the yellow

2218
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: was Scorpion. Also, for what it's worth, I think Jed

2219
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: and sunglasses supposed to be Johnny Cage, So Luke, you

2220
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: can take that out.

2221
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that's fair, okay.

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01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: And finally aloha donks. I got one more from Daz.

2223
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: On Thursday's episode, the graphics team Mikey made an error

2224
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:28,879
Speaker 1: during ltnbc's UFC Top five Pound for Pound rankings. Morab's

2225
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: last name was consistently spelled dv lash VILLI. This is

2226
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: dead wrong. It's there's an all. Yeah, yeah, understand well

2227
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 1: this is These are pretty pedantic, understandable mistake as it's

2228
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: not the easiest to spell, but dead wrong. Nonetheless, thank

2229
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: you for your content. Thank you Daz and everyone else

2230
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: who pedantically jumped in there. We got one more fansub

2231
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: segment for you. Can you beat what we saw last week?

2232
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 1: This is where you send in tight T shirts and

2233
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,440
Speaker 1: pictures of Saoul's wife. Yeah, it's fansubs.

2234
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,480
Speaker 4: You've got mayl fuures.

2235
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: Speaking of Louisville's finest salul, he says, what up be?

2236
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: My wife and I hosted a Jersey Shore themed pool

2237
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: party for her birthday. I spiked my hair up as

2238
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: Polly d but it was so hot it wouldn't stay up.

2239
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: I actually got hate from the Paramount store that this

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01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: was the week before the new She launched. But however

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01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: I did rock my skits and bitch shirt. I have

2242
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: no idea what that last sentence said, by the way he.

2243
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 6: Wrote that high Yeah, yeah, he got MK hats from

2244
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 6: the Paramount store before the site launched, and the.

2245
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Three launch badly, Luke, nobody represents MK in the flesh

2246
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 1: more than saul A from Louisville.

2247
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 3: Look at this.

2248
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this man, he lives the brand. We don't have

2249
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 4: to go to his house and you could bang his girl.

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01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really into that, but you know

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01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: it's something to think about, right, Yeah, all right, let's

2252
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: get it. Let's get a saul say I'll be the meat.

2253
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

2254
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Appy, dude, all the our friends are

2255
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: coming out. David Appleton, Hi guys BC, often talks about

2256
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: his French Canadian origins, but on a recent visit to

2257
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 1: the Louver Museum in Paris, I discovered that his family

2258
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: roots go back to France itself. Here's a painting of

2259
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: the Big beij Ones, prestigious ancestor Emperor Napoleon himself behaving

2260
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 1: in classic Campbell statesmanlike manner. Ps. Having made this discovery,

2261
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: you now have to come to Chateau Appleton to do

2262
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 1: a pregame preview of the Paris card in September. Chairs, guys,

2263
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 1: big French kisses from your favorite English teacher, David Appleton.

2264
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: That's good ship right there. Yes, I have yea last

2265
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: summer it was great. It's great, that's funny, best time, really,

2266
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: it really was.

2267
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to have the official drink of Chateau Appy,

2268
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 4: which is rue hypnol. I'll pass on.

2269
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: A he's like here, I got some GHB. Let's try

2270
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 1: it together, all right, let's hear from Namanga, who says

2271
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 1: high donks. On the special Thursday edition of MK that

2272
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: aired on July third, Luke made a suggestion to do

2273
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: a home invasion MK show. Here is just a little

2274
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: photo reminder for all the lunatics out there that are

2275
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: thinking about inviting Luke and Brian into their homes. Like

2276
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: Luke so eloquently put it, I will ruin your plumbing

2277
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: and BC will bang your wife. Shout out to the

2278
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: best host in inima media and that loving boyfriend from

2279
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: down On, Derek, keep up the awesome work and greetings

2280
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: from Macedonia. Oh my god, that's so good.

2281
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 5: That is so good, dude.

2282
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 4: The dumb and dumber thing is I mean, I don't

2283
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 4: know if I've seen them more perfect? Fam sum this

2284
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 4: is unbelievable.

2285
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Look what do you make of this fellow Namanja being

2286
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: from Macedonia. That's amazing, right, yeah, that's that's amazing.

2287
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 4: I cannot believe how good this is. This, that is

2288
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 4: so awesome, so awesome.

2289
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: We got one from Jonas, He says, yours truly, it's Jonas.

2290
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: Let's see it.

2291
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 4: Unlucky Luke, take me to Spain and I'll take Islam

2292
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 4: off your mind. I'll be your America American beauty. Ilia,

2293
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: you are reading way too much into these roses?

2294
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Are you Kevin Spacey in this recreation of beauty?

2295
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 4: I don't quite get it. Also, Ilia looks very unhappy

2296
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 4: with my presence and his lakamita. You know what I'm saying.

2297
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think he just blew up his commode.

2298
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, upper deck. Sorry.

2299
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: We close with the fan sub assassin and podcasts contributor

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01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: and supporter known as Alan W. A multi time Donk

2301
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: of the Year nominee. His first one is called donk

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01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Street Presents, Counting Margarita's with Count Donkula.

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01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

2304
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Count all the way to Margaritaville. I think we'll stop

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01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 1: at three there, Count.

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01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 4: Thank you, donk Street. That's pretty good. I don't know

2307
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 4: if I can have seven. Three seems to be the limit,

2308
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 4: but well done.

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01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Donk Street Presents also gives us on the road a

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01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: fatty liver journey. Wow, is that my car? Luke? That's

2311
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: unbelieab Okay.

2312
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 4: You might be tempted to think that the two Glizzies

2313
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 4: is the move here, but I have to tell you

2314
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 4: it's the googly eyes that really is. That works.

2315
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: Shout out to my twenty twenty super cross track that

2316
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: my kids have taken over. I no longer drive. I

2317
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: missed that car, Luke, you know. Come on, let's hear

2318
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: more from Alan. He says, Morning Combat Presents, Big trouble

2319
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: in little Donkville.

2320
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, and wait wait wait, wait, so hold on,

2321
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm obviously Kurt Russell, and then Long Island. Luke is

2322
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 4: low pan it.

2323
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 5: Looks like it.

2324
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: Where am I? Where are my eyes? Where my eyes?

2325
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: They're not the same size. This is interesting, all right.

2326
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: We got one more from Donk Street Presents. It's the

2327
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: RSD that will never.

2328
01:58:56,640 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 4: Be I always said, come to Long Island and do

2329
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 4: the RSD in my living room, and then the other

2330
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 4: person on the phone says, I'm not going to Long Island.

2331
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 4: I'd rather get AIDS or get fucked by an eight

2332
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 4: dick Walris.

2333
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: So that's gotta be no SEDA on the phone with you,

2334
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 1: Luke Ray.

2335
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, back in back when we had the bombshelter couch.

2336
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Long Island. And by the way, thank you Lyland

2337
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: w and thank you fans for those incredible fan submissions.

2338
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com for your Dead Wrongs

2339
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 1: fan subs. Order to reach out to the show to

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Speaker 1: complain or suggest, we'll be there for you. Tell Mikey

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Speaker 1: we said, Hi, Long Island. Luke. I'm willing to break

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Speaker 1: into Malcas Studios if you can get a flap, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you can get a truck, and we'll just steal

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Speaker 1: that couch and bring it to your house.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I have an RSD like couch in my

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Speaker 6: living room. You guys just need to come to my

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Speaker 6: living room and we can record RSD here. Luke refuses

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Speaker 6: to come to Long Island for whatever reason can be

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Speaker 6: seen your girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, if we shook out the push, could

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Speaker 1: I get enough shake for like a dime bag out

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Speaker 1: of that couch or what?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You get probably like an eighth out of that Yeah?

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Speaker 4: There we go. There we go?

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Speaker 1: the MK punch out. Luke's also wearing one of our

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Speaker 1: old classics. There's a few uh you know, Evergreen products

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Speaker 1: the show. That was a loaded and fantastic show. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Sebastian fron Door for stopping by. Enjoy the

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Speaker 1: fights this weekend, Tonight tomorrow night, Luke Thomas, can we

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Speaker 1: find your work on your YouTube or substack to look

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Speaker 1: back at the action this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, assuming I have fucking internet and I'm not tethering

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Speaker 4: off my bitch ass phone. Yes, I'll have content.

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Speaker 10: For you, yes, Okay for me not just.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just one of them days. Don't

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Speaker 1: take a personal you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Don't take it personal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Along, I look, you've done talking. You got anything else?

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Speaker 1: You got anything else for us?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing watch along Taylor Serrano tonight eight pm doing

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Speaker 6: full card UFC Nashville tomorrow, join me main card minute.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much. You lost me.

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Speaker 1: For Luke Thomas's Internet. I'm Brian Campbell. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. We will be back Monday from

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Speaker 1: home eleven am Eastern, and then Wednesday of next week

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Speaker 1: eighteen Jed Meshu number two in the building, so we'll

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Speaker 1: find out what that dirt hole is up up to.

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Speaker 1: And for Luke Thomas's anger, we must say goodbye now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for playing. Take care of yourselves. We're out

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Speaker 1: of here.