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Speaker 1: we head into Week three of the twenty twenty NFL season.
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Speaker 1: But we're having a ton of fun here and looking
Speaker 1: at this Seattle matchup, and I just mentioned it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go through offense ve defense today. We flippedlop that
Speaker 1: yesterday and we talked about the Seattle offense and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. But there's been some things that have changed
Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours, and there's been some
Speaker 1: concerns that have popped up amongst that Cowboys defense. Rob
Speaker 1: I saw an injury report yesterday Trayvon Diggs, our corner
Speaker 1: that Isaiah said, Hey, we're gonna have to put him
Speaker 1: on DK Metcalf, one of the best deep threats in
Speaker 1: the NFL, And well, he's on the injury report with
Speaker 1: the shoulder. What's the insider information on Trayvon Diggs? And
Speaker 1: is this something we should start panicking about in the secondary.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's panic, but how many corners
Speaker 1: can wind up on the injury reports slash ir My goodness, man,
Speaker 1: we just found out after the show that chio Use
Speaker 1: is out for multiple weeks with that hamstring injury that
Speaker 1: he had on special teams laid in the game against Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They just got Jordan Lewis back, and right as he
Speaker 1: gets back, Anthony Brown hurts his ribs in practice at
Speaker 1: the end of the week and is on IR for
Speaker 1: a minimum three weeks. And now, yes, Trayvon Diggs is
Speaker 1: on the injury report. He was at practice the early
Speaker 1: part of practice. I'm not sure if he was really
Speaker 1: doing anything because he didn't practice, And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm the vibe I'm getting is I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think it's time to panic here. I think, look, he
Speaker 1: played all seventy five snaps in the game, and I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a ton of concern at this point.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Mike mccarthur here in a little bit
Speaker 1: and see, but obviously it's something they're trying to be
Speaker 1: mindful of, and it may have something to do with
Speaker 1: as many injuries as they've already got back there. If
Speaker 1: he's got a little something, let's just try to make
Speaker 1: sure he gets through the week and gets to the game.
Speaker 1: Sound the alarm because it's rough, man, it is rough,
Speaker 1: and it sucks, and I have I've said it before
Speaker 1: for those that are experiencing any kind of injuries are
Speaker 1: hurdles that they have to overcome. I feel for you.
Speaker 1: I've been there entirely too many times, so I understand
Speaker 1: explicitly what you are dealing with. However, as an organization,
Speaker 1: sounding alarm because you don't have the depth that you
Speaker 1: need to handle these defensive I mean, these these receivers
Speaker 1: at Seattle's about to bring at you. I mean, goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the for the dog on training staff
Speaker 1: here because I know they're frustrated. But a rookie, a
Speaker 1: rookie high high, rookie draft pick, uh, not practicing on
Speaker 1: a Wednesday. It's not what happens, Okay. You practice every day.
Speaker 1: You only get three real days of practice, and two
Speaker 1: of them are with paths typically. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the rules have changed now, But back in the day,
Speaker 1: two days were pass. One day was was a fast.
Speaker 1: You know, we call it up Temple Fast Fridays and
Speaker 1: then Saturdays will walk through. If you're missing one day
Speaker 1: a practice of like the real practice, which is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: your preparation day. Then you're hurt, You're you're you're hurt, right,
Speaker 1: You're not, You're not, You're You're dealing with something that's
Speaker 1: gonna be that kid could affect you in this game
Speaker 1: potentially um and then the news achieved being gone goodness gracious,
Speaker 1: that's what everybody in Cowboys Nation was relying on to
Speaker 1: really anchor these defensive backfield going into this week's game.
Speaker 1: So if you're going into to the game with your
Speaker 1: best defensive back being a injured Diggs or b Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know now it was that,
Speaker 1: it was that, it was that mystery meat feeling. Again.
Speaker 1: I didn't when I saw Trade Bun things his name
Speaker 1: on the injury report, and I hadn't heard anything at all.
Speaker 1: Rob hadn't reported it. Kyle, you didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 1: So when I saw him show up on the injury report,
Speaker 1: with Cheeto being out for multiple weeks and what we're
Speaker 1: going through at the court end of the secondary, this
Speaker 1: just isn't the time to have it because when you
Speaker 1: look down the schedule at the receivers that we've got
Speaker 1: coming on the horizon. This is a rough patch to
Speaker 1: have your guys on ir or out for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks or just laboring. Yeah you look at yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, with these injuries, understands what this?
Speaker 1: What this does to you? Okay, Cowboys Nation. When you're
Speaker 1: injured and you were short under you, you don't have
Speaker 1: that much depth at a certain posis such as cornerback. Right,
Speaker 1: the situation that we're currently in as a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: might only he wants to get to all his blitzes.
Speaker 1: He wants to get to single high. He wants to
Speaker 1: press you, he wants to start doing all these crazy things.
Speaker 1: Guess what, now, you can't because you don't have the
Speaker 1: person nail. You can't afford to lose any more personnel.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Well, you become really chill, right,
Speaker 1: you become really conservative. You go back to a nice
Speaker 1: too high zone. And guess what, you can't do that
Speaker 1: when there's a dog on dude name by the name
Speaker 1: of Carson in the backfield for Seattle, you just can't.
Speaker 1: So this puts an entire defense at risk of being exposed,
Speaker 1: and it sucks. You brought up a really good point about,
Speaker 1: you know, the practice day and getting that work. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the second round here, he's a rookie. He needs
Speaker 1: all the work he can get. I think there's a
Speaker 1: may very well be where he's fine by Sunday. But
Speaker 1: you know, today is a huge day if they follow
Speaker 1: the same schedule that they've been following, because they usually
Speaker 1: go longer in practice on Thursday, and they don't, they
Speaker 1: don't practice Friday. They've got kind of a regeneration day.
Speaker 1: Let guys recover from the week and then have a
Speaker 1: short deal on Saturday. This is the last real heavy
Speaker 1: work of the week, and so it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if he's out there today, because you're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: a young player needs to be out there and getting
Speaker 1: prep especially for a team of this quality, and those
Speaker 1: are crucial because the reps that you're getting previously were
Speaker 1: against Julio Jones, Robert Woods and Cooper Cup and the
Speaker 1: reps that even if you're healthy. Moving into the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, here's the next the next couple of matchups,
Speaker 1: just the next two matchups for the Cowboys, DK Metcaf,
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, Jarvis, Landry, Odell Beckham, junior. Those are on
Speaker 1: your schedule the next two weeks. Also, I'm going to
Speaker 1: worry about if you want to go. If you want
Speaker 1: to go two weeks down the line, we'll skip the
Speaker 1: Giants for now because Sterling Shepherd's banged up and they
Speaker 1: don't really have a wide receiving corps anyways. Then you
Speaker 1: will skip a week six. Then you got DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald on your schedule, so you have to get healthy.
Speaker 1: These corners need to come back because right now, and
Speaker 1: I know we've used a lot of PF grades this week,
Speaker 1: but it tells the story pretty well. But if you
Speaker 1: look at the lowest grades of three corners throughout the
Speaker 1: Atlanta game on Pro Football Focus, the lowest was Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs at a forty seven. Jordan Lewis was next with
Speaker 1: a forty nine, and then you had Darryl Worley with
Speaker 1: a fifty seven. And if Diggs is healthy, those are
Speaker 1: your three guys, those are your three starting corners right
Speaker 1: now for the Cowboys, because there's no Cheeto, there's no
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, and really that's what you're working with. If
Speaker 1: not if Trayvon Diggs isn't healthy, you're probably going to
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, who you really brought into to hopefully play safety.
Speaker 1: He's gonna end up playing corner like he did previously
Speaker 1: during his stint with the Dallas Cowboys. So's it's worrisome,
Speaker 1: But Rob whenever you're actually I'm gonna go to Isaiah
Speaker 1: on this one. But Isaiah, whenever you're dealing with an injury,
Speaker 1: specifically in Trayvon Diggs case, where it's a shoulder and
Speaker 1: you're a defender, we saw him last year with Jeff Heath.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily an easy thing to rehab when your
Speaker 1: job is to hit somebody. Yeah, and I would like
Speaker 1: to know. And obviously we won't find out what type
Speaker 1: of shoulder injury he's had because I've had a ton
Speaker 1: of them, right, I've tore my labor m three times.
Speaker 1: That was my first two major injuries I had here
Speaker 1: when I was in Dallas. But shoulders suck. So think
Speaker 1: about it from a large corner perspective, which he is, right,
Speaker 1: Diggs as a large frame corner and larger corners. Their
Speaker 1: advantage is being what being physical, Right, They're not necessarily
Speaker 1: always gonna be the fastest. Diggs isn't necessarily the fastest corner.
Speaker 1: They're out there, okay, but he wants to get more
Speaker 1: physical with you. So going against another physical receiver presents
Speaker 1: problems because he has to go against DK Metcalf, who's
Speaker 1: six four two twenty five. He runs a four three
Speaker 1: three by the way, He's a physical specimen in terms
Speaker 1: of being strong. So this presents a problem because not
Speaker 1: only kid Mike Nolan not be aggressive on defense. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have to be conservative in
Speaker 1: the secondary with your coverage. And if you and now
Speaker 1: you can't even come get your hands on a player
Speaker 1: who who runs a little four to three, that presents
Speaker 1: a major problem. It's not a good look. Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about them, well, I want don't say
Speaker 1: that I'm worried about the DK. The DK Metcalf match
Speaker 1: up with Diggs is one that gives me a little
Speaker 1: bit of pause. His speed, his size, everything about DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1: But when you go back and you look at the
Speaker 1: tape and you know that these guys have seen each
Speaker 1: other in the sec before, Diggs has had that matchup
Speaker 1: and you handled them pretty well. Now that's obviously Alabama
Speaker 1: old miss that we're looking at. Next tape from three
Speaker 1: years ago, but still we have some tape to see
Speaker 1: these ship guys against each other. But Dk metcalf is
Speaker 1: a physical specimen. Diggs is gonna have his hands filled.
Speaker 1: They're gonna give him help over the top. You know
Speaker 1: that's gonna be there. And so the worry really for
Speaker 1: me is on the other side with Tyler Lockett, because
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett is who Russell Wilson wants in those individual battles,
Speaker 1: and Jordan Lewis is gonna have to win his battle
Speaker 1: last week didn't wasn't a good look for George Lewis,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he would admit the same thing. And
Speaker 1: so they're just certain parts of our defense. And now
Speaker 1: with car coming in being that, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's just in a nickel situation, but we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have these guys play at a high level because
Speaker 1: right now for Seattle, they're where they are is priority
Speaker 1: number one is throw the ball, and that's where they're
Speaker 1: going to keep us in that in that Nickel packet,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the whole game. I disagree with you
Speaker 1: on that one, heck I And to my point yesterday,
Speaker 1: Seattle is not to throw the ball first offense. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't care how back for our history you go,
Speaker 1: I don't care if each just going off to the numbers, right,
Speaker 1: we're going off the numbers right now. And yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: as first is what they're doing. So I still believe,
Speaker 1: even though the stats show differently, right because I'm not
Speaker 1: a big stats guy, they're at a they're a run
Speaker 1: first team in nature. Now, if the run sets up
Speaker 1: for them to be able to start throwing the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit more than so be it. But they
Speaker 1: cannot do what they do on offense without it without
Speaker 1: initiating the run right and establish to run. And while
Speaker 1: we're talking about receivers, we're talking about DK and we're
Speaker 1: talking about Lockett. Don't forget David Moore more beast. He's
Speaker 1: six foot two fifteen and he catches the ball. He
Speaker 1: got six catches for seventy six yards and a touchdown
Speaker 1: and through two games. Let's not disrespect them, man. So
Speaker 1: you also have that there to say, now Dallas gets
Speaker 1: to catch a break, they catch a break a little bit.
Speaker 1: And the fact that um that Dorset is now going
Speaker 1: on ir because that would have really presented a problem.
Speaker 1: But more is still a respectable receiver that they cannot
Speaker 1: look past more. They've used him. They used him I
Speaker 1: think on a jet sweep or at least a fake
Speaker 1: jet sweep some of that misdirection stuff that where you
Speaker 1: bring Wilson's legs and the ability to run into it.
Speaker 1: And they've got a rookie Freddie Swayne who caught touchdown
Speaker 1: passed last week. They've got they've got more depth, it
Speaker 1: looks like than we think they do. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the matchups with the corners are huge. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Kyle spoke to it. They least have
Speaker 1: some some numbers in terms of worlies. Started games at
Speaker 1: corner are obviously a started games at corner if they
Speaker 1: need it. But you don't want to have to reach
Speaker 1: too deep in the bag obviously, and you've been playing
Speaker 1: those two guys at corner all right safety, so you know,
Speaker 1: you'd like to have have some kind of you know,
Speaker 1: rotation established and get something going there. It's gonna come
Speaker 1: down to pressure and try and we talked we talked
Speaker 1: about Russ all all yesterday and Isaiah made a great
Speaker 1: point about that that interior rush too, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to allow him to be able to step up
Speaker 1: in the pocket, either run or step up and throw
Speaker 1: and give him, you know, because he has a shorter quarterback,
Speaker 1: give him an opportunity to really step into his throw.
Speaker 1: That's huge as well, So Don Terry Poe and Crawford
Speaker 1: and Antoine Woods. It's a big games to him, Hill,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, Course, Triste, Yeah, big game for them. Yep.
Speaker 1: And whenever you look at back to talking about that
Speaker 1: corner back spine, that's why you went and got got
Speaker 1: those veterans. That's why you went and secured a guy
Speaker 1: like Brandon car and a guy like Daryl Worley. Is
Speaker 1: so that way you your your floor is higher. You're
Speaker 1: ceiling may not be as high at the cornerback spot,
Speaker 1: but your floor is higher than it would be if
Speaker 1: you're you're having to throw some rookies or younger guys
Speaker 1: out there. But there are some rookies in younger guys
Speaker 1: that are waiting in the wings. Reggie Robinson, who's been
Speaker 1: inactive the first two weeks of the season. You've got
Speaker 1: to Chris Westry. That's out there, rob But if you're
Speaker 1: looking at either one of those guys or maybe even
Speaker 1: some of these other practice squad caliber players. Is there
Speaker 1: anyone that sticks out to you that could potentially get
Speaker 1: moved up and play an active role. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they're to that
Speaker 1: point yet. I think we got we gotta we gotta see,
Speaker 1: we gotta see what's up with Diggs. I think there's
Speaker 1: there's a chance he'll be fine for this game. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think what really is happening potentially even with
Speaker 1: even if it's just Cheeto U and Anthony Brown, what
Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy has said all through camp is going
Speaker 1: to be put to the test here where you need
Speaker 1: all your guys in the secondary and you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: play one position. You gotta be ready to come in
Speaker 1: and play multiple spots. And we may we may really
Speaker 1: see that with some veterans that they brought in, uh,
Speaker 1: that that are kind of cross training at different spots.
Speaker 1: It's you know, they don't really it's all about position
Speaker 1: flex and they may really have to use it here
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. We say they don't. Don't
Speaker 1: ease up. Now, man, last week we wanted to throw
Speaker 1: digs to the Wolves. Now let's look ahead and throw
Speaker 1: Robinson out there. Let him learn. No, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: a that's on the team right now. Dog, that's cool.
Speaker 1: That's a completely different player, Isaiah, that's a completely different players.
Speaker 1: We talk about we talk about two rounds. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of difference between two rounds, a lot
Speaker 1: of different guy Dudu And they moved him to safety too.
Speaker 1: He really I don't know how much corner he's really
Speaker 1: been working at ye. So yeah, your point's well taken.
Speaker 1: But to Rob's point as well, we mentioned it in
Speaker 1: the off season. We mentioned the fact of the word
Speaker 1: of the year will be hybrid, and the Mic Noel
Speaker 1: defense it's going to be hybrid, and that's exactly what
Speaker 1: the corners and the safeties have been throughout the season.
Speaker 1: Interchangeable another one of those words, and we're gonna see
Speaker 1: just how interchangeable they are if we're gonna see some
Speaker 1: flip flopping this week, and hopefully the Cowboys can get
Speaker 1: something going and some healthy bodies into that secondary because
Speaker 1: they're gonna need it against Russell Wilson when we come back.
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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys. Week three, Episode four. Glad you're
Speaker 1: with us on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of breaking news to report here on Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys as Adam Schefter has twittered the to the world,
Speaker 1: twittered out there and tweeted and whatnot, and he is uh.
Speaker 1: He has reported that this Seattle Seahawks, the team that
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys will be playing this week in are
Speaker 1: gonna have a visit from mister Snacks Harrison at the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle spun. Now good news for Cowboys fans. It's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and because of twenty twenty, you can't necessarily
Speaker 1: play that quickly. So Cowboys aren't gonna have to worry
Speaker 1: about snacks Harrison. But some other teams earlier are coming
Speaker 1: up on the Seattle schedule might have to worry about
Speaker 1: snacks Harrison coming up there in just a bit. But
Speaker 1: there's another interesting wrinkle, and we're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: Seattle defense. And I teased going into the break that
Speaker 1: I think Zeke is due for a huge game. I said,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards. He's had one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty plus all purpose yards in each of the first
Speaker 1: two weeks. I think he could do that. He might
Speaker 1: even reach a hundred on the ground again for the
Speaker 1: first time this season, So I think he's due for
Speaker 1: a big game. And it's really because of the defensive
Speaker 1: line for Seattle. I'm not necessarily impressed with them. Much
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys have had a lot to be desired
Speaker 1: on the de defensive line. I think Seattle is the
Speaker 1: same way. They don't necessarily pressure a whole lot. They
Speaker 1: don't really do that much in the run defense. But
Speaker 1: I want to see what you guys think about it. Heckma,
Speaker 1: is this a game where Ezeki Elliot's gonna be the
Speaker 1: bell Cow and he's gonna be able to surpass the
Speaker 1: triple digit mark again? Kyle, Yes, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: he's twenty five plus carries in this game. But no
Speaker 1: matter what, man, I'm just gonna play Captain obvious here
Speaker 1: and just say we can't fumble the ball five times
Speaker 1: and give up twenty points. I think that that's gonna
Speaker 1: set us up for success if we don't have to
Speaker 1: do that. But that's the way that that's the way
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have to go into Seattle looking at
Speaker 1: this game, and Dak is gonna have to rely heavily
Speaker 1: on that Bell cow running back Zeke is gonna have
Speaker 1: to eat a whole lot and also be in that
Speaker 1: be a big part of the passing game. Look, Seattle's
Speaker 1: defense isn't what it used to be. Right, you would
Speaker 1: go to Seattle and the whole legion of Boom talking
Speaker 1: the twelfth Man, But we don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: the twelfth Man and those decibel levels, and we definitely
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with this the legion of Boom.
Speaker 1: But for the Cowboys, it's gonna have to be those
Speaker 1: possession of receptions, continuing to move the change, and Dak
Speaker 1: is gonna have to help this defense out. He's the
Speaker 1: man that can cure our eels on defense by time
Speaker 1: of possession, making sure that he gets those long exaggerated
Speaker 1: drives going. And they have to finish in the red
Speaker 1: zone with points, and so it's not gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those games where you can give up a whole
Speaker 1: lot of points early and expect for Dad to put
Speaker 1: his cape on and bring us back from behind. Fifty. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: d fifty you know what? You know what, Isaiah, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: that was a question, Isaiah. I'm gonna make sure I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it with like y'all y'all know, I love me.
Speaker 1: I love Freaky Zeki. Freaky zek He's a beast, he's
Speaker 1: a dog. Eats right, obviously he has a tattooed as
Speaker 1: says he eats. But um, there's no no I mean
Speaker 1: no butt. But but but but I do agree with you, Kyle.
Speaker 1: This defensive line is unimpressive, right. I think that they
Speaker 1: do what they're asked to do. But you know, hence
Speaker 1: the reason why they're going out there. They're trying to
Speaker 1: bring in somebody like Snacks Harrison. They need a dominant force.
Speaker 1: They don't have that. That's probably the only um out
Speaker 1: of their three levels of their defense, the defensive line,
Speaker 1: the linebackers in the secondary. The defensive line is the
Speaker 1: only position right now they don't have a dominant dominant
Speaker 1: force on the presence there Um. They just lost Irving.
Speaker 1: That hurts them in a major way. Uh, because he's
Speaker 1: a patient, experienced defense at end, slash rush or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call him. Um that that they lost.
Speaker 1: But they need an internal presence. Reason being is because
Speaker 1: they are susceptible to a good rushing offense such as
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott. Um. This office ave
Speaker 1: line is not what it's what it's been in the past,
Speaker 1: but they're still good enough to push the Seahawks a
Speaker 1: line line off the off the line of scrimmage. With
Speaker 1: that being said, once you get past the defensive line
Speaker 1: is when you start running into matchup problems for the Cowboys. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: the linebackers. You have kJ Wright, who's a dog. You
Speaker 1: have Bobby Wagner, who's the best linebacker in football. And
Speaker 1: then you brought in the Ricky let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and find his name, Jordan Brooks out of Texas Tech
Speaker 1: first round draft picks. So listen, those three dudes are
Speaker 1: some dogs now. And then, oh, by the way, um, Seattle,
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact percentage, for probably about seventy
Speaker 1: percent of the game, they played single high safety in
Speaker 1: which they brought Jamal Adams, who arguably the best safety
Speaker 1: in the game, as the fourth linebacker or the safety
Speaker 1: in the box. So they're going to put eight guys
Speaker 1: in the box and they're not going to allow z.
Speaker 1: They're going to try their best to not allow Zeke
Speaker 1: to get off to a start. And that's what Seattle
Speaker 1: wants to do. Seattle wants to force you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just I'm just saying by doing that, you
Speaker 1: bring three Pro Bowl guys at the second level, right,
Speaker 1: plus plus a Ricky first round draft pick. So they're
Speaker 1: going to present problems for this offense in terms of
Speaker 1: trying to establish the run. Does Zeke still eat? Zeke
Speaker 1: always eats, right, So I'm not disrespecting that, But one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards, I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: It hasn't happened that much in Seahawks history, and I
Speaker 1: don't even know that stand. You know, they've allowed ninety
Speaker 1: nine total rushing yards through two games. Also, and it's
Speaker 1: two point one yards a carry, So through two games,
Speaker 1: it's two games. They've done a solid job against the run. However, However,
Speaker 1: Isaiah mentioned Bruce Irvan out for the year. Yeah, They've
Speaker 1: got some guys banged up elsewhere on their defensive line
Speaker 1: this week. Benson Mayoa did not practice yesterday. Jeron Reid
Speaker 1: did not practice yesterday. Cody Barton, linebacker who was in
Speaker 1: on the goal line stand against the Patriots at the
Speaker 1: end of the game, didn't practice yesterday. You mentioned Brooks,
Speaker 1: the rookie, he might have to play more. With Irvan out,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to do some maybe some reshuffling on
Speaker 1: their d line, but they do have Jamal Adams. They
Speaker 1: have Jamal Adams, and he is he's been their best
Speaker 1: pass rusher. I mean he's I think he's got two sacks,
Speaker 1: they've got three total sacks, and and uh, we saw
Speaker 1: what he did against the Cowboys last year. It was
Speaker 1: that zero blitz at the end of the Jets game
Speaker 1: where he broke through the line and made the play.
Speaker 1: They've got some issues kind of kind of like the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: all levels of their defense, but they do have some playmakers.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Isaiah on this though. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Zeke's gonna have to get two
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards. I think if they could
Speaker 1: take care of some matchups in the passing game and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe they can have more balance than
Speaker 1: needing Zeke to do that, unless they're just in a
Speaker 1: position where they can just salt away the game in
Speaker 1: the second half depending on how it unfolds. Yeah, Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams is that? Yeah, quintessential. I'm sorry, Kyle, I'm glad now.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna talk about Rob's stat really quickly
Speaker 1: about the rushing yards that were allowed by Seattle. You
Speaker 1: also got to think about who they're playing. Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: in week one, who we saw last week wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: the same Todd Gurley, or at least hasn't gotten going
Speaker 1: as the old Todd Gurley has in the previous years.
Speaker 1: But then you go up against the Patriots last week
Speaker 1: and you had Sony Michelle and Plano his own Rex Burkhead,
Speaker 1: who were the don't knock my guy from playing. I
Speaker 1: love f Burkhead, but at the same time, he didn't
Speaker 1: do anything against that Seattle defense. This is they haven't
Speaker 1: face yet, but good go for it. You got Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner and and j R. Those are two downhill for
Speaker 1: the linebackers that help your run defense well. And yeah,
Speaker 1: with Jamal Adams coming down, he's gonna come up and
Speaker 1: stop the run. I mean, he's a box safety and
Speaker 1: he will continue to be that, and that's something that
Speaker 1: they're going to continue to utilize him in because he's
Speaker 1: better there than he has been in coverage, especially this year.
Speaker 1: But I still think, like as Isaiah said, Zeke's gonna
Speaker 1: eat and the play calling last week was very indicative
Speaker 1: to letting Zeke have the football, whether it was via
Speaker 1: the run or via screen pass or a short play
Speaker 1: where you just get the ball into his hands. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna see a lot of that same thing
Speaker 1: from Kellen Moore heading into Sunday, and it's something that
Speaker 1: I think will allow him to have that kind of game.
Speaker 1: And that's where Dalton Shows has to take over. Dalton
Speaker 1: Shows has to be available in the passing game. You're right,
Speaker 1: kJ Wright. The linebackers of Bobby Wagoner and one of
Speaker 1: the best linebackers in the NFL right now, those guys
Speaker 1: are all over the place. But let's not forget man
Speaker 1: who Ezekiel Elliott is. And look last week. Last week,
Speaker 1: Seattle completely disrespected Cam with eight in the box and
Speaker 1: they just said, look, we don't care about you throwing
Speaker 1: the ball. And that's why Julian Edelman went for eight
Speaker 1: catches one hundred and seventy nine yards. You reverse that,
Speaker 1: You reverse that, and you come to the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: you look at what Ceedee Lamb can do from that
Speaker 1: slot position. And oh yeah, by the way, Seattle does
Speaker 1: give up the most yards to slot receivers number one
Speaker 1: or number two, but they're the tops of the league
Speaker 1: and what they give up to slot receivers and oh
Speaker 1: we got the best guy at receiver. He's a cowboy helmet.
Speaker 1: So those match up problems for Seattle are all over
Speaker 1: the field. And so if they trying to if they
Speaker 1: come with the eight men in the box mentality with us,
Speaker 1: I think we break their spirit by giving them that
Speaker 1: dose of zeke. But then when they get ready, when
Speaker 1: they're loaded up for it, we drop it over the
Speaker 1: top and we have the receivers in the tight end
Speaker 1: and hopefully Dalton shots can play like he plays against
Speaker 1: Atlanta every week. That's what we need from him. Um. Heck,
Speaker 1: just a couple of things. Um, you mentioned you mentioned
Speaker 1: that Shultz is going to get off against one of
Speaker 1: two of these Pro Bowl safeties, right because quand Quandre
Speaker 1: Digs is there as well. Right, So either way he's
Speaker 1: either gonna have Jamal Adams on him, Quandre Diggs on him,
Speaker 1: or kJ Wright one of those guy's gonna be sticking him. Correct. Okay,
Speaker 1: just make it just making sure that you were talking
Speaker 1: about the right person. Okay. So so with that said, um,
Speaker 1: he won't have with the game that he wants to have,
Speaker 1: and all the points you made about receivers. Absolutely, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. They give up play, give up a big
Speaker 1: players to slot receivers because they are going to force
Speaker 1: you to throw the ball. They will lose. They would
Speaker 1: rather lose to Dak Prescott than lose to Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: That is the Seattle mentality. Trust me, I've been there.
Speaker 1: I know the guys there. I know Ken Norton, I
Speaker 1: know those guys. He is not going to let you
Speaker 1: run the ball. He Zeke might. Zeke might get sixty,
Speaker 1: he may get seventy yards. He's not going for one
Speaker 1: hundred or some yards. And you're gonna have to run
Speaker 1: routes in man coverage versus guys because Seattle. After watching
Speaker 1: this game, Seattle came up and played man demand majority
Speaker 1: of the game. And it's gonna And another point that
Speaker 1: you said, you said that, did you say CD was
Speaker 1: the best slot in the game. I think I heard
Speaker 1: you start to say that. Is that something that you said?
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said, oh said with your chest. Okay,
Speaker 1: So with the so just a question here, I know
Speaker 1: we got going to something you would prefer to have
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb didn't, Tyler Lockett. No, I'm talking about for
Speaker 1: the Dallas cow Wait a minute, now, I realize I
Speaker 1: do really a little bit that Seattle is your other boys, right,
Speaker 1: the cowboys of my boys. So I'm just telling I understand.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel like I take I take
Speaker 1: all emotion out of it. I am a fact based individual.
Speaker 1: I would keep the one hundred I got all times.
Speaker 1: But no matter why, it's like you're using words like
Speaker 1: let they're gonna let us do so we don't. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, you know you're gonna have this. You gotta
Speaker 1: hurd it. But Seattle is not going to allow you
Speaker 1: to establish the run and went in the way that
Speaker 1: Dallas would prefer, and which is why they went eight
Speaker 1: in the box. Which is why they went eight Aboudy,
Speaker 1: even with the Sony Michelle, even with the Rex birthhead,
Speaker 1: with those guys that you don't consider to be top
Speaker 1: dogs at that position, they still went eid in the
Speaker 1: box because they don't. They still am They didn't respect
Speaker 1: Cam's arm, And now I'm saying, Camm Dak are two
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks. I would go with Dak every time with
Speaker 1: his arm, what he's going to be able to do
Speaker 1: against the Seattle defense and receivers too. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: he's got a better receiving. So they disrespected. They lined
Speaker 1: up eight in the box because they knew that what
Speaker 1: what the Patriots wanted to do was obviously get Cam
Speaker 1: involved in the running game. That's why it's important to
Speaker 1: bring them all Adams up in the box like that.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you, but they did the
Speaker 1: same thing. Did that hurt? Did that hurt? To kind
Speaker 1: of agree with me? Though? We gotta go already know
Speaker 1: we gotta go ahead. Com I'm just I need I
Speaker 1: need a bucket a popcorn when this kind of stuff
Speaker 1: pops up, Like I just need to set here and
Speaker 1: watch the back and forth because both of you guys
Speaker 1: know the game so well. Now, Isaiah, I want you
Speaker 1: to put your money where your mouth is and not money.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna bet money here, but I want to
Speaker 1: make a bet with you. You said, Zeke's not having
Speaker 1: a hundred yards and we're if do you still have
Speaker 1: an Isaiah stand back Seattle, Jersey, anywhere you have one
Speaker 1: running around, of course, have one. He does. Bring it
Speaker 1: Bring it Sunday. Bring it Sunday to pregame and post game.
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna bring a Dack jersey. And if I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't have an Ezekiel Elliot jersey, or actually have
Speaker 1: a Tony Romo jersey. I don't have a Dack jersey.
Speaker 1: I'll find a way to get a jersey. I'll find
Speaker 1: a way because if Ezekiel Elliott has a hundred plus
Speaker 1: yards in Sunday's game, you're gonna wear a jersey. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't, I'll wear a jersey and we'll do it
Speaker 1: on Monday as are how about that, I'll bring I'll
Speaker 1: bring my wife. I'll bring my wife's Dack jersey up
Speaker 1: there today or on Sunday. Okay, I'm helping. I'm helping
Speaker 1: the bet. I'm helping. He's providing, providing it. He's providing
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of something to
Speaker 1: substance of what we can have the better. But I
Speaker 1: think Zeke's gonna easily have a hundred yards. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a fantastic game. I even think Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard's gonna have a better game than he has the
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season. I really do think
Speaker 1: this run game for the Cowboys is going to have
Speaker 1: some success against the front seven of Seattle. Even with
Speaker 1: respect that I have for that linebacking corps, I still
Speaker 1: think they'll have some success. But when we come back,
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Speaker 1: Thursday edition as we are just a couple days away
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys and the Seattle Seahawks Week three
Speaker 1: of the NFL season, And really, I think this is
Speaker 1: a benchmark game. And I brought this up yesterday just
Speaker 1: very briefly, and Rob kind of gave me one of
Speaker 1: those whoa kind of reactions by the way, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Heck Mahrris and Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeomans, and
Speaker 1: Rob gave me one of those whoa reactions when I
Speaker 1: kind of said it, but we didn't really address it.
Speaker 1: But going into this week, the Cowboys one and one,
Speaker 1: Seattle two and oh, and Seattle's really scene right now anyways,
Speaker 1: as a NFC favorite with a quarterback who is playing
Speaker 1: at an MVP level. I mean he's had nine touchdowns
Speaker 1: and eleven in completions. The guy is just absolutely cooking.
Speaker 1: And that's Russell Wilson. I went on a limb yesterday
Speaker 1: and I even put it in an article, our Big
Speaker 1: Fax article that you can find on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: But I said, the winner of this game Sunday, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden has vaulted into that conversation as an
Speaker 1: NFC favorite, as a potential Super Bowl contender. I wanted
Speaker 1: to get your guys thought thoughts on that because a
Speaker 1: week ago we were talking about the season potentially coming
Speaker 1: to an end and really not turning out the way
Speaker 1: that you thought panic Button was just I mean, the
Speaker 1: case was off of the panic button and everybody was
Speaker 1: getting ready to push it if they didn't complete a
Speaker 1: twenty point comeback. Well they did, and now I'm bringing
Speaker 1: this up, but when you look at it, it's really
Speaker 1: not that outlandish. But I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: at Robert. I know you gave that that whole reaction initially.
Speaker 1: Well do you think that do you think the winner
Speaker 1: is is even in that conversation or am I way
Speaker 1: out there right now? I mean, I got Seattle in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I guess I gotta stick to that
Speaker 1: the whole year, right. I'm just I think it's it's
Speaker 1: too early for anybody, um to really know. The thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me with both teams is defensively, they have
Speaker 1: so many injuries on both side, on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, that you know this early in the season,
Speaker 1: you just wonder now the Cowboys have a chance. You know,
Speaker 1: they get late in back, late in the year, later
Speaker 1: in the year, Sean Lee, that helps um, But you're
Speaker 1: so depleted so early. I Dak said it before the
Speaker 1: season started that the healthiest team's gonna win, and he
Speaker 1: was asked question about you know, obviously the COVID and
Speaker 1: the virus being a threat to everybody, but also just
Speaker 1: the injury front, and we're seeing more injuries this year
Speaker 1: than I can remember so early. That concerns me for
Speaker 1: both teams being healthy enough to be effective on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Right now, which which team
Speaker 1: do you think? Real quickly, rob, which team do you
Speaker 1: think is more injury ridden? Is it? Is it the
Speaker 1: Dallas side? I think over Seattle pretty easily, But I'll
Speaker 1: throw another NFC West opponent in there. How about San Francisco?
Speaker 1: Which one has been decimated more? Is it San Francisco
Speaker 1: or Dallas in terms of these two guys or two
Speaker 1: teams rather that have lost a ton of guys. I
Speaker 1: might take San Francisco just because it sounds like Garoppolo
Speaker 1: might not play this week, and that's the toughest division
Speaker 1: in football problems, so they can't afford not to have
Speaker 1: your quarterback for multiple weeks. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. And San fran and San Francis, guys
Speaker 1: don't come back, true, I mean they go, they don't.
Speaker 1: They guys just don't come back. So, yeah, Dallas is
Speaker 1: in good shape. They only get better from here. Heckman,
Speaker 1: continue with what you were going to say. No, I'm
Speaker 1: interrupting everybody's others waiting on my third, but I mean
Speaker 1: san Franci, Yeah, with Bolsta and the ACL man, that's
Speaker 1: just yeah, that's ridiculous. But the Cowboys right now are
Speaker 1: feeling that injury bug. And in this game, I just
Speaker 1: feel like I'm really excited to see Dak go up
Speaker 1: against another one of his contemporaries and prove his case.
Speaker 1: And we talked about this betting on your self mentality
Speaker 1: and Dak going from I guess week one, having that
Speaker 1: the past to Michael Gallup overruled by horrible PI and
Speaker 1: coming back last week versus Atlanta. He's just proving his
Speaker 1: case that he's maturing and the things that we're looking
Speaker 1: for in him to be that next level, take the
Speaker 1: next level as a quarterback. He's starting to mature in
Speaker 1: that man. But if you and Rob started to do
Speaker 1: the comparison between Dak and Russell Wilson yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: love I gave you know that. I love I love
Speaker 1: the comparison because when it comes down to what Cowboy
Speaker 1: Nation wants from Dak, I think that's what we want
Speaker 1: to see. We want to see Dak b Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and eight years, nine years and not just be perceived
Speaker 1: or look at as a bus driver, so to speak.
Speaker 1: And so he has to take the next step and
Speaker 1: I think you know in this matchup, this would be
Speaker 1: the one that we see him golden neck go that
Speaker 1: extra mile to be the upper echelon quarterback. So you're
Speaker 1: you're saying, at least this game based off of last week.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the third four hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yard performance that Dak Prescott has had in his career,
Speaker 1: and it was quite possibly the best comeback, or actually
Speaker 1: it was the best comeback that he's ever had. But
Speaker 1: whenever you're looking at Dak Prescott and this is a
Speaker 1: secondary that automatically gives you a little bit of pause
Speaker 1: because there is a Jamal Adams back. There, there is
Speaker 1: a Quandre Diggs there is a griffin. They're good in
Speaker 1: the secondary, Seattle is it's it's up front where the
Speaker 1: pressure is that they're kind of leaving a lot to
Speaker 1: be desired. Like I said earlier, much like Dallas. Where
Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott gonna be able to pick apart this defense? Though?
Speaker 1: And Isaiah, I know you went into it a minute
Speaker 1: ago talking about eight players in the box. You're gonna
Speaker 1: stop the run? Can Dak eat like Zeke wouldn't normally eat?
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that he's able to roll the
Speaker 1: football around a little bit? Yes, Deck's gonna have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to do so. Um, he's definitely gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of time, a lot more time
Speaker 1: than he than he probably imagines he will. He will have.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna to be precise with his passing. Um.
Speaker 1: That's something that I've always been kind of down on
Speaker 1: Dac with in past years. I know he's continue he's
Speaker 1: continuing to get better, but his precision has to be
Speaker 1: on point. He can't be behind on crossing routes, he
Speaker 1: can't be behind on deep balls. Um, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be on point because these guys are going to
Speaker 1: get open. But they're gonna have somebody writing their hip
Speaker 1: pocket while they're open. So if he's off the mark
Speaker 1: by at all, it can lead to easy turnovers. So
Speaker 1: it either be big play or it can be a turnover.
Speaker 1: So if he and that's that's what it's really gonna
Speaker 1: come down to. So he really has to dial in
Speaker 1: this week because he will have the time to throw
Speaker 1: the rock. But will it be on the mark at when?
Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh? No, have you not seen him mature?
Speaker 1: Have you not seen that? I have? I mentioned that.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that. Okay, do you agree with him? I
Speaker 1: about it? Just got a little too far yesterday though?
Speaker 1: Who you you went too far yesterday? Now you did?
Speaker 1: I thought that was a perfect comparison. I mean, instead
Speaker 1: of being being compared to Kirk Cousins. I would like
Speaker 1: to hear Russell what Russell Wilson? Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean but so as we talked about comparison, So
Speaker 1: Dak has improved on his long balls and hit some
Speaker 1: of his shorter routes right his intermediate routes, but there
Speaker 1: has been he has a history of not being on
Speaker 1: the mark. Now, guys may catch the ball, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean just because they have a completed pass, that
Speaker 1: the ball was, where the location was, where he needed
Speaker 1: to be. And as a former quarterback, I dial in
Speaker 1: on those things. Right, is an under back shoulder, was
Speaker 1: an under front shoulder, Right, So things things that okay,
Speaker 1: well most people bypassed and say, okay, it was a
Speaker 1: completed pass. Yeah, but it was this close to getting tipped, right,
Speaker 1: it was this close to being office back shoulder and
Speaker 1: into somebody else's hands. So so those are the things
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about because you know, we know Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson doesn't really make those mistakes. So when we look
Speaker 1: at when we're looking on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you know we I think Rob said yesterday,
Speaker 1: when he throws the ball deep, it's like a handoff, right,
Speaker 1: And that's the confidence that he has. I don't think
Speaker 1: is there yet. But he's on his way. Him and
Speaker 1: him and these receivers are gonna have to continue to
Speaker 1: build their rapport. He's gonna have to get the ball
Speaker 1: to CD if see, he's gonna be in a slot
Speaker 1: because that's where they're gonna win in. Yeah, what's Russ
Speaker 1: completing right now? Like eighty two percent? Of his passes.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just ridiculous. He leads been the best
Speaker 1: player in the league so far, leads the NFL and
Speaker 1: completion percentage, touchdown percentage, and QBR. He's had a one
Speaker 1: forty QBR through the first two games, which is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But I mentioned the stat last earlier in the show.
Speaker 1: Nine touchdowns, just eleven in completions. It'll be tough to
Speaker 1: slow down Russell Wilson. But this is gonna be a duel.
Speaker 1: I was asked on seinon r J this morning about
Speaker 1: the over under, and the overunder I think was at
Speaker 1: fifty six or something like that. And we're not betting
Speaker 1: men on this show. We talk a lot about the
Speaker 1: numbers though, and I would take the over. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw forty thirty nine last week. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if the Cowboys get close to forty again this week.
Speaker 1: It's just whether or not can they stop the Seattle
Speaker 1: aside from getting forty Yeah, yeah, with both of these defenses, man,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a shootout. Just look for Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a shootout. It'll be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to break down. And tomorrow we'll give our predictions.
Speaker 1: Bring your predictions because as always Fridays, or say it
Speaker 1: with your chest Friday, as we lead you into the weekend.
Speaker 1: It's our final show prior to kick off, so come
Speaker 1: see it with your chest, bring your questions, bring your
Speaker 1: frustrations or your excitement about this week's game, and then
Speaker 1: we'll all do predictions together as a collective Cowboys Nation
Speaker 1: family and a Talking Cowboys family to close out the
Speaker 1: week and have some fun with it. But that's going
Speaker 1: to do it here for the Thursday edition of our show.
Speaker 1: So glad you've been with us over the last forty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Special thanks to Chris Beam in the Backbuff
Speaker 1: for Isaiah's dam back for Rob Phillips, and for heck
Speaker 1: Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you tomorrow. I'm
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