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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Third hour. Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 1: right now. We've got the Governor Michelle Luhan Grisham situation

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Speaker 1: to discuss here in New Mexico. And you haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about New Mexico a lot, at least recently in the program.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of focus on this right now because

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Speaker 1: she decided by a health executive order effectively that open

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Speaker 1: Carrie and concealed carry rights. I think I said, Santa

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Speaker 1: fe befour apologies. It's Albuquerque, Albuquerque area, So in the

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Speaker 1: Albuquerque area they have decided, or rather she has decided

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Speaker 1: that you cannot have concealed Carrie or open Carrey. This

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Speaker 1: audience certainly knows what those things be for thirty days

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Speaker 1: because of the violence, the gun violence that has been

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Speaker 1: happening in the Albuquerque area here. Now, there's already a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who are saying, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: that's not what state law says. The legislature has not

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Speaker 1: changed the state law. It's also a constitutional issue or

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment issue, and she's just saying, well, cops don't

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Speaker 1: get to tell me because the police are like, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? She says. The cops don't get to

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Speaker 1: tell her what's in the constitution. Play ten.

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Speaker 2: I'm focused on one thing. We have the third highest

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Speaker 2: gun related injuries in the country, ninety percent higher than

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Speaker 2: the national average. We lost one hundred and forty three

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Speaker 2: children between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one. It is unacceptable,

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Speaker 2: and it calls for immediate and swift and bold action.

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Speaker 2: And frankly, the evidence bears out over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Fewer guns on the streets makes everyone safer. And I'm

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Speaker 2: focused on everyone's constitutional rights, not just those the NRA says,

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Speaker 2: I should be focused on everything.

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Speaker 1: She said there is not true, just as an aside.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing of less guns on the

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Speaker 1: streets means less uh, because all it does we'll get

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Speaker 1: into this. All it does is prevent law abiding people

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Speaker 1: from having guns. The criminals aren't like, oh, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: you mean the governor said I can't conceal carry anymore

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Speaker 1: to go rob this liquor store, I'd better not take

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Speaker 1: the gun in there with me. We'll get into that

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Speaker 1: in a second. But Clay at least well a handful

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Speaker 1: of sheriffs. I believe. Here's John Allen, New Mexico, sheriff

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Speaker 1: of bernad Lee bernad LEO, thank you, Bonkle tried to

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Speaker 1: lean in as close as he could to read this. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I'll blastpan you all over here. So when you get

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Speaker 1: into some of the place names down along the border,

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Speaker 1: I'm not great. But anyway, John Allen, the sheriff, says

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Speaker 1: he's just not gonna enforce it. Play to play eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's unconstitutional. It's infringing on people's Second Amendment rights.

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Speaker 1: Constitutional.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what is the direction to the deputies.

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Speaker 1: Is it that they would not be able to enforce it?

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Speaker 5: You think?

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Speaker 1: Or what is the argument there right there?

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Speaker 3: They won't enforce it. It's unconstitutional. It's not even really

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Speaker 3: an argument in terms of where we would be at

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Speaker 3: in civil court.

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Speaker 1: We have so much.

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Speaker 3: Violent crime here in Burnleheald County that my deputies would

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Speaker 3: be stuck in civil lillegation if not myself and I

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Speaker 3: have a bunch of other issues of violent crime. I

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Speaker 3: have gun violence here, we have homicides, so many other

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Speaker 3: issues to just deal with the health.

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Speaker 1: Order, Clay, this is first of all, to call it

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Speaker 1: a health order. Some of us said this during COVID

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Speaker 1: that if they can just declare by health order that

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Speaker 1: you can't collect rent on a home that you own

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Speaker 1: that's rented. If they declared by health order, you can't

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Speaker 1: operate your business. What can't they declare by you can't

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Speaker 1: go to church? Right? This was a huge concern. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a health emergency, right, massive gateway to authoritarianism, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people walk through that gateway in positions

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Speaker 1: of leadership, including Gavin Newsom. Many of them did. And

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Speaker 1: now we have this idea that if you were to

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Speaker 1: have a thirty day moratorium on conceal or open just

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Speaker 1: basically carrying a weapon, a firearm at all, for those

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Speaker 1: who are otherwise legally entitled to do so, the chance

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Speaker 1: of this stopping anybody from committing a crime with a

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Speaker 1: gun is zero. It's like the gun free zone sign

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Speaker 1: that is up near Times Square in New York City.

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Speaker 1: I think they're still up. I used to see them up.

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Speaker 1: The people that would bring a gun into Times Square

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Speaker 1: to harm people don't care about the gun free zone sign.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is just further evidence of what I

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Speaker 4: think is far too common. And I think it's Republicans,

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Speaker 4: Democrats too, maybe even some chatterbait models. There's just way

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Speaker 4: too many dumb people in politics. And I don't even

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Speaker 4: particularly care about the argument here. It's a legal zero. Okay,

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Speaker 4: on its baseline, what she is arguing evinces a basic

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Speaker 4: lack of comprehension of the Constitution in general, and I

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Speaker 4: would imagine that almost immediately a judge in New Mexico

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Speaker 4: would strike this down. It's just such a dumb argument.

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Speaker 4: I listen to what she's saying, and I just like,

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Speaker 4: who is advising her? And how did she get elected?

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Speaker 4: How are the people of New Mexico picking such an

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Speaker 4: imbecile to be representing them in the executive office of

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Speaker 4: their state as governor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: And this is Look, I don't want to get into

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Speaker 4: the argument, because I do think this becomes this is

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Speaker 4: what democrats are doing. Trying to criminalize legal arguments, is

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Speaker 4: I believe, the wrong direction to go, and that's what

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Speaker 4: they're trying to do essentially with everything Jan six related

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Speaker 4: for Trump, They're trying to criminalize the legal.

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Speaker 1: Argument that he was trying to make.

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Speaker 4: And I think there was a colorable by which I

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Speaker 4: mean there are lawyers who would agree that this is

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Speaker 4: an aggressive case.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a senior single.

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Speaker 4: Lawyer in America hardly who would say, yeah, New Mexico's

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Speaker 4: governor can do this. And so if everybody uniformly agrees

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Speaker 4: that what you're trying to do is unconstitutional, the question

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Speaker 4: then becomes, how does this person end up in a

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Speaker 4: position of prominence where she feels comfortable going out? And

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Speaker 4: the answer may well be buck that we're in such

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Speaker 4: a post legal world where and this is kind of

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Speaker 4: what we were getting at with the last discussion, but

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Speaker 4: it almost doesn't even matter what you argue as long

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Speaker 4: as there's a D or an R in front of

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Speaker 4: your name. Yes, there are people who will go out

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Speaker 4: and say, of course this is fine, even when there's

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Speaker 4: no legitimacy for it.

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Speaker 1: All our laws have become in some ways immensely complicated

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Speaker 1: and sometimes contraytory and convoluted a whole range of issues.

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Speaker 1: If you look at Wall Street Journal used to do

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Speaker 1: these these stories on you know, somebody who was facing

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Speaker 1: a year in federal prison because I think they wrapped

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Speaker 1: a lobster in plastic instead of paper and it violated

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Speaker 1: some overseas. I mean, there's there's.

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Speaker 4: So many person listening to us, Buck to put that

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Speaker 4: into context, could be charged with the felony today for something.

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Speaker 1: There's something you're do, one of you. There's something you're

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Speaker 1: doing that's technically that's kind of what I mean. We

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Speaker 1: have this immensely complicated series of laws at a time

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Speaker 1: of clear political weaponization and also politicized nullification. Now, I

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Speaker 1: would argue that the sheriffs here in New Mexico are

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Speaker 1: doing the only ethical and legally correct thing, which is

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna they're gonna arrest people because of an

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Speaker 1: arbitrary health order having to do with guns that infringes

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Speaker 1: on constitutional rights. It's insane, right, it's insane. But given

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Speaker 1: the the mercurial nature of some action teams, say mercurial,

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Speaker 1: that's not even right. The hardened and weaponized coach of

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Speaker 1: so many of these prosecutors that we're seeing now, when

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Speaker 1: you're in an environment of all these complicated and intertangled

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Speaker 1: laws that have different interpretations by different people, whether you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the tax code all the way to you know,

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Speaker 1: a whole range of other things, and you have people

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Speaker 1: who are operating in bad faith with a political agenda

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Speaker 1: in the operation of those laws. You have a big

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Speaker 1: problem as a country. Obviously Donald Trump come into mind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, you have to challenge these

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Speaker 4: interpretations of the law in order for them to be

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Speaker 4: struck down. So I'll give you an example of something

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Speaker 4: that I never would have believed would be possible. In

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Speaker 4: my home city in Nashville, Buck in November of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one, I was at a house party with like

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Speaker 4: I think I've told this story on the air, like

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Speaker 4: fifteen or twenty people, and the Nashville police showed up

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Speaker 4: of COVID regulations.

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Speaker 1: Those cops shouldn't have done that. I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 1: those cops should have nullified that order. That was unconstitutional

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Speaker 1: and insane. But once you talk about health, Clay, this

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Speaker 1: is why the whole COVID thing should have been so

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Speaker 1: scary for everybody. Oh, it's for health now, no other

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Speaker 4: And that story for people who may not have heard it,

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Speaker 4: it was I believe November of twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 4: it may have been sorry, November of twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 4: believe that was when that and then the city of

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Speaker 4: Nashville many communities were doing this.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember when they would say, hey, you're only

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Speaker 4: allowed to stay open as a bar restaurant till like

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Speaker 4: The bars shut down at like nine thirty or whatever

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Speaker 4: It's like fifteen or twenty people watching games on television,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that happened.

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Speaker 4: So for people out there saying, well, how is this

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Speaker 4: public health law going to interact with the guns thing?

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Speaker 4: I give credit to the police officers who were saying,

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Speaker 4: we're not going to enforce this. We're basically going to

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Speaker 4: nullify this law because we know it's not legal, but

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Speaker 4: someone has to be prosecuted under it in order for

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Speaker 4: it to be struck down by a court, and until

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Speaker 4: that happens, you can go out and say all sorts

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Speaker 1: And I just.

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Speaker 4: So many people acquiesced to so much clearly unconstitutional aspects

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Speaker 4: during COVID that I would like to say, this is

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Speaker 4: so crazy. Even Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Buck Remember when Joe Biden came out and said this.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this, and he said it.

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Speaker 4: He said, this is unconstitutional, but I'm going to do

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Speaker 4: it anyway because it's going to take a while for

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Speaker 4: the courts to strike it down. I think that was

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Speaker 4: on the eviction moratorium if I remember correct.

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Speaker 1: Which I just mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually said this isn't constitutional, but I'm going

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Speaker 4: to do it anyway, because it's going to take a

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Speaker 4: Court to strike it down.

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Speaker 1: This was also something that was perfected, really, or I

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Speaker 1: should say, a honed technique of bare knuckle politics, of

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Speaker 1: brass knuckle political fighting from the Obama administration. The Obama

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Speaker 1: administration I think was overturned, meaning for things the Obama

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Speaker 1: talking to you our friend, actor Kevin Sorbo, actor, writer

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Speaker 5: It is on the backtrack a little bit. Hercules are

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Speaker 5: then they started celebrating the anti hero. It stopped celebrating

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Speaker 5: the good guy doing good things. We started giving more

438
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Speaker 5: and more credence to bad guys and looking at them

439
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Speaker 5: as cool people to be. And it only got worse

440
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Speaker 5: as the decades went along. And so to me, it's

441
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Speaker 5: it's been happening. But Hollywood was really conservative back in

442
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Speaker 5: when it started, through the twenties, thirties and forties, and

443
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Speaker 5: even you know, you look at the African American population,

444
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: they were pretty republican up until the sixties. The welfare

445
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Speaker 5: format and a couple of other things really changed things

446
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Speaker 5: quite a bit. But the last fifteen years it's accelerated itself.

447
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 5: And you know, more than anything else, the liberals use

448
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Speaker 5: hate and anger and divisiveness just to have hate and

449
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Speaker 5: anger and divisiveness. They need to look up the word

450
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Speaker 5: liberal what it means in the in the dictionary, it

451
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 5: means everybody's opinion is supposed to be okay. But it's

452
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Speaker 5: such a one way street, you know, the hypocrites. I'm

453
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Speaker 5: the first canceled culture victim in Hollywood because of me

454
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Speaker 5: saying the things I said on Facebook, which was just

455
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Speaker 5: the truth. They took me down and I lost over

456
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Speaker 5: two million followers. Please follow me on on on Twitter

457
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Speaker 5: or x as it's called now. But at case Sorbs,

458
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Speaker 5: I do very sarcastic, funny truths like you. I said,

459
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Speaker 5: you want to get rid of COVID till the Clinton's

460
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Speaker 5: COVID's got something on them. It was kind of those

461
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Speaker 5: kind of things that I was posting out there. So

462
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Speaker 5: to me and I need, I said, I need more

463
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Speaker 5: conspiracy theoris because mine have all come true. So the

464
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 5: battle is on with that, and I got booted out.

465
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Speaker 5: So I formed Soorbal Studios dot com and Sorbal Studios

466
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Speaker 5: with my wife, and I would do a lot of

467
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Speaker 5: family friendly movies. There's a lot of movies I've been

468
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Speaker 5: part of in the independent world, not all mine, but

469
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Speaker 5: because of independent. Other independent people came to me. I've

470
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Speaker 5: done like Soul serf for God's Not Dead? What if

471
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Speaker 5: let the be light? My wife and I did the get.

472
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Speaker 5: I got a movie that came out in January called

473
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Speaker 5: Left Behind, Rise of the Antichrist, based on the Left

474
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Speaker 5: Behind books, and then I got a new one coming

475
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Speaker 5: out this fall in October called Miraclenes, Texas that I

476
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Speaker 5: also directed. We have John Ratzenberger, Lucas Junior, Tyler Maine,

477
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Speaker 5: my wife Sam's in it. True story dealing with the

478
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Speaker 5: nineteen thirty con men that went through Oklahoma, Texas, wooing

479
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Speaker 5: widows out of their money and fake oil wells. True

480
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Speaker 5: story they would sell five hundred percent of the shares.

481
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Speaker 5: Declara dry Holme move on. Largest oil strike in the

482
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Speaker 5: world happened within by accident Kilgore, Texas. It's how the

483
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Speaker 5: Hunt family became wealthy. Actually, and it's pro oil. It's

484
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Speaker 5: going to drive him crazy. Pro capitalism, pro faith, pro freedom,

485
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Speaker 5: pro patriot. All these people I want to go out

486
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Speaker 5: of oil need to go online and say how many

487
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Speaker 5: products are made out of oil?

488
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Speaker 1: The think it's just gas.

489
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Speaker 5: If they really want to get rid of oil, then

490
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Speaker 5: they should get rid of their iPhone, their computer, their toothbrush, hairbrush,

491
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Speaker 5: hair dryer. There's so many things, but the ignorance of

492
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Speaker 5: our population, the ignorance of what the public schools have

493
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Speaker 5: done to kids, is just going to continue until we

494
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Speaker 5: stand up and be lions.

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Speaker 1: Now, Kevin, you've had some big commercial hits. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: some of the movies, you know, I mean, God is

497
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Speaker 1: how a teleg how much money to God? Is not dead?

498
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Speaker 5: Mate, God's not dead. We shot up at two million

499
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Speaker 5: dollars and made one hundred and forty million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's super home run ten times over dr

501
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Speaker 1: Hollywood terms. I mean, I actually know a couple of

502
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Speaker 1: people that produced a Hollywood you know, big budget Hollywood films,

503
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Speaker 1: and you know, if they could get an ROI like that.

504
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: They you know, they celebrated throughout the whole industry. Things

505
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Speaker 1: feel like there's change it a little bit now in

506
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Speaker 1: a good way. You just had, Uh, you know what

507
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: was the big the big movie that just came out, Clay,

508
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Speaker 1: I'm just blanking on the name right now. Sound Sound

509
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Speaker 1: of Free, Sound of fram Sound of Freedoms came out.

510
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Speaker 5: Sound of Freedom and two good things going for it.

511
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Speaker 5: Number one that got signed up by Angel Studios. They

512
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Speaker 5: shot that movie five years ago. I know, I'm done,

513
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Speaker 5: Jim Caviezel for years. We had the same manager for

514
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Speaker 5: a long time. So, uh, they shot for about fifteen million.

515
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Speaker 5: They had to buy it back from Disney because Disney

516
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Speaker 5: was stupid enough not to do it. They went, I

517
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Speaker 5: went with their with their Indiana Jones, a three hundred

518
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Speaker 5: million dollar movie that didn't make as much money as

519
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Speaker 5: A Sound of Freedom did, And uh, Angel Studios has

520
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 5: to power through the chosen. They got all these people

521
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 5: funding that thing outside the studios and they said support

522
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Speaker 5: this movie, and people support it, and then Hollywood came in,

523
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Speaker 5: which is amazing to me because I told my wife this,

524
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 5: I said, you would think this is one thing Hollywood

525
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 5: would back at them, say yeah, we're for that too,

526
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Speaker 5: because it's against child sex trafficking. But apparently Hollywood's all

527
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Speaker 5: for it. So they came and attack the movie. And

528
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 5: then a lot of people out there, no matter what

529
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Speaker 5: side of the fence you're on, no matter what religion

530
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Speaker 5: or non religion, they're against sex trafficking too. When they

531
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Speaker 5: saw Hollywood do with it, they said, to heck with this,

532
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Speaker 5: We're gonna support this movie. So that movie is probably

533
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Speaker 5: gonna make close to two hundred and fifty million worldwide.

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Speaker 1: It's conservative, traditional content, though ascended in a way that

535
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Speaker 1: we've been hoping for for a long time. Yeah, that's

536
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Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted to get to.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

538
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Speaker 1: I think.

539
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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna keep getting better. Independent movie is

540
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 5: getting better and better. I've got more coming out. Look

541
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Speaker 5: with the strike we are going on right now, I

542
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 5: had to get a waiver from SAG to even talk

543
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: about my movie, which was weird because they've never done

544
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 5: that before. They've stopped other productions, but not stop people produce.

545
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Speaker 5: You know, this movie is a couple of years ago.

546
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: We just waited for the right time to get it

547
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: out until people started going back to the theaters more.

548
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Speaker 1: Do you.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious, Kevin, how often do people that surprise you

550
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Speaker 4: when you see them out in public say I agree

551
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 4: with a lot of what you're saying. You mentioned earlier,

552
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: lions versus sheep. I mean, they're obviously being willing to

553
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: speak out is a lion trade now, but there's also

554
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Speaker 4: a lot of people who would agree with what you're saying,

555
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: even in the Hollywood industries. I imagine how often does

556
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Speaker 4: that happen where people say, hey, I'm not willing because

557
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: of whatever financial pressures or fears they might have. But

558
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: they say to you privately, keep saying everything you're saying, Well.

559
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Speaker 5: Number one, to get non Hollywood people. When I go

560
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 5: through airports, hotel lobbies, whatever it may be, I got

561
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 5: stopped all the time from people that's not Hercules or Andromeda.

562
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: They'd say, hey, we love you on soulcer for let

563
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: to be like, please make more movies like that. And

564
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Speaker 5: then every time I've been on set, certainly the last

565
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: six seven years, I'll get an actor, I'll get a producer,

566
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 5: I'll get a camera guy. Somebody come over and go, hey,

567
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 5: come here, and we got to go over to the

568
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: corner of the studio like we're doing a drug deal

569
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Speaker 5: and this look around. Hey, thanks being a voice for us.

570
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: I go, dude, be a voice for yourself. Yeah, but

571
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 5: they're afraid. Fear's a big factor Hollywood. Look, they scream,

572
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 5: they scream for you know, the tolerance, But it's a

573
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 5: one way street with these guys that the hypocrisy not

574
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: only bleeds through Hollywood. The same thing and as you

575
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: know in DC, these guys don't care if they lie

576
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: they hate the truth. That's kryptonite to them. But I'm

577
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: gonna keep fighting the good fight. And I'm being very

578
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: blessed to keep making movies without Hollywood since they booted

579
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: me out. I've shot over sixteen movies, not all of

580
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Speaker 5: them good, but most of them are pretty good.

581
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Speaker 1: Kevin, where can people go? First off, tell everyone in

582
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: the book, and then where they can go or plan

583
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: to go? For the movie Miracle in East Texas?

584
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Speaker 5: Test of line it, Oh, you got it right there too,

585
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: test line it. Go to Brave Books dot com. Brave

586
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: Books dot com, very important, get on there. These are

587
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 5: great books, great educational books, great inspiring books. I'm already

588
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: getting a lot of people coming back to my website

589
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: say how much I love it, and for the movie,

590
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: and actually for the Brave books, but for my movie.

591
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: Go to Sorbostudios dot com. Sorbo Studios dot com. It's

592
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Speaker 5: a Fathom event. It's tough to get independent movies out

593
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Speaker 5: there to two thousand screens run seven hundred and fifty screens,

594
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Speaker 5: So please go there now, buy tickets now, because we

595
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: only get one weekend. If we fill up those theaters,

596
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: we'll get more and more days.

597
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Kevin, soore of everybody. Kevin, appreciate your work.

598
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Speaker 1: And as you know, I'm a big Hercules fan, so

599
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: me too. Thanks. You know, I used to watch that

600
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Speaker 1: one of my clay You know. One of my criticisms

601
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Speaker 1: of just the general entertainment industrial complex, all the movies

602
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: they tend to make about anything ancient. Exception is Troy,

603
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Speaker 1: the movie with Brad Pitt. That was good. But I

604
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: mean anytime they do like Hercules or they've made horrible

605
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: it's amazing content. They've made horrible movies. The I can't

606
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Speaker 1: even remember.

607
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Speaker 4: There's moment like the brad Pitt Troy one Erotic, Well,

608
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Speaker 4: I wonder you loved it.

609
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Speaker 1: That movie made like four hundred million dollars. It was like,

610
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Speaker 1: it's good.

611
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's super homo erotic based on my recollections,

612
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: but it is pretty good.

613
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Speaker 1: Are you thinking of the Alexander the rat am I

614
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: still on there?

615
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Okayn and Hercules, we never did that our

616
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Speaker 5: Spinner Spinner Zena.

617
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Speaker 1: They kind of did that in that show.

618
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Speaker 5: They kind of did that on Zene our third year

619
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Speaker 5: spin off, our fifth year spinoff.

620
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Speaker 1: This is good. This is a good Quiziles due to people.

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Speaker 5: We spent off Zena in my third year, a young

622
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Speaker 5: Hercules in my fifth year, and we had a twenty

623
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Speaker 5: year old unknown actor at the time play me as

624
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Speaker 5: a teenager. And most people don't remember who it was

625
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: because it was the last one.

626
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Speaker 1: No two years. It was a twenty year old Ryan Gosling.

627
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Speaker 5: Oh wow, and you think, and you think he's doing

628
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: Barbie movies now, which once again men are useless. Women

629
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Speaker 5: are better off without men. And what that's what the

630
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Speaker 5: movie does. I mean, it made a lot of money.

631
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Speaker 5: I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard it from

632
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Speaker 5: so many people.

633
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Speaker 1: Go check out Kevin's book at his movie. But Kevin,

634
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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We do have to go to

635
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Speaker 1: a break now. That was fun though I didn't realize.

636
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Speaker 1: It's like it was like the voice of Zeus coming

637
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Speaker 1: down happening there. That was fun. Speaking of masculinity, folk,

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Speaker 4: as well, if you're interested in that conversation. The movie

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Speaker 4: Troy Brad Pitt Achilles, I remember it being quite homo erotic.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm clearly not his masculine as our guy Mark from Montana,

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Speaker 4: But I remember, uh, Brad Pitt and Patroclus. I don't

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Speaker 4: remember who played Patroclus Achilles and Patroclus. This is my

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Speaker 4: recollection of the Trojan War. I remember that coming off

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Speaker 4: a little bit, a little bit homo erotic. And your

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Speaker 4: point is the Greeks were not necessarily known for running

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Speaker 4: that would be quite the scene today.

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Speaker 1: So so who knows.

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Speaker 4: You don't have any recollection like that.

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Speaker 1: I cannot I cannot speak to a recollection of how

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Speaker 1: great is that? Kevin Sorbo was still there listening. He's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: This one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it was a who's the the the

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Speaker 1: very excellent English director who did the Troy movie. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. He's also, uh, got

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Speaker 1: pulled up because I was yeah, really, I think I

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Speaker 4: Did Gladiator and he did and he did the the

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Speaker 1: That's like pretty crazy, huh. He did Kingdom of Heaven.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. Oh no, Wolfgang Peterson sorry, Wolfgang Peterson did

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Speaker 1: Detroy and it was written by David Bennioff. I only

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Speaker 1: a showrunner for Game. I didn't know that. So you've

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Speaker 1: I guess the Hulk. I heard the Hulk movie was trash.

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Speaker 1: I never even really saw it. I know, you know.

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Speaker 4: I did freshman year of college buck an entire class

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Speaker 4: on the Iliad, which is if people haven't read the Iliad,

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Speaker 4: it's pretty incredible. It's amazing, and and obviously that's the

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Speaker 4: source material for the movie, Troy, So I would encourage

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Speaker 4: you to actually read the Iliad as opposed to watching

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Speaker 4: watch together. But the Iliad is incredible if you have

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Speaker 4: And by the way, no matter how old you are,

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Speaker 4: now and you've never read the Iliad, it really is

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. I just think there should be more

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Speaker 1: content from an ancient Greco Roman civilization in movies and

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Speaker 1: TV shows that's high quality. Some of it's really like

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Speaker 1: the Immortals is what I was thinking of Recence, it's

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Speaker 4: I think because it was so expensive, right, it was

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Speaker 1: At that it was such a good I thought that

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Speaker 1: Like even I was like, I don't it's like Game

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Speaker 1: very good show for what it was. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: of the Peloponnesian War. Here, Flucidity is, we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have a loaded show for you tomorrow. More

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Speaker 4: the border. Thanks for hanging with us, Clay and Buck Wednesday,