00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineker just blacked out for just a millisecond there. I don't know I happened. My brain just short circuited. That's fine. What's going on in my life. I made some slaw about six days ago for myself, and I would just like to put the word out that if you're going to make slaw and you're not going to a picnic or an event, just be prepared to be eating slaw for the rest of your life. Full cabbage. It's I have no complaints. It's just it will never end. And that's fine. But that's just something to keep in mind. If you're not going to your church, picnic or your company, outing prepare to have a lot of slaw. Let's get into the podcast. Let's get the guest here. Maybe he can get things on track. Let's see what happens. It's trek Davis Terrek, welcome to I said, no gifts. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me, And if I may, I ain't nothing wrong with infinite. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: Law, I think. I mean, there's no beginning or end. 00:01:57 Speaker 3: There's no beginning or end. My wife right, But I personally I am a fan of law. I know it's one of those sides that a lot of people can plain about. Like, I'm a slaw man, So if you put slaw next to anything, I am a happy camper. I think slaw is underrated. Slaw has been here since the beginning of America, and it will be here for the end, which might becoming. 00:02:20 Speaker 2: S My slav will be here for the end of the I mean, actually that could happen sooner than we think. So right, this is true. I've got maybe two weeks of slav. I put the end of America three weeks from now, so that could work out. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could totally work out. If you don't mind me asking, are you red cabbage? Like, what's your slaw recipe? 00:02:41 Speaker 2: Well, this is what happened. I went to the store. I went to the grocery store looking for red cabbage, found a green cabbage. Could not see the red cabbage anywhere, bagged up the green cabbage, disappointed, but you know, reluctantly was going to buy it. Headed out of the produce section, I spotted the red cabbage and then became the person who is taking the cabbage out of this sticky plastic bag, returning to the green cabbage, getting the red cabbage. The recipe that I was looking at called for both, but that feels so unnecessary to pick one, just pick one. I like the red cabbage. It's more fun to look at it is. 00:03:17 Speaker 4: It is a more festive color. 00:03:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:03:19 Speaker 3: To me, slaw is like you know, slaw is the aunt busting through the church doors first day of spring. It is like you know, you know good eating is about to happen when you see. 00:03:30 Speaker 2: Some Redly, are you a greener red? 00:03:34 Speaker 4: I'm a red cabbage. I am a red cabbage. Slaw. I like the yeah. 00:03:38 Speaker 3: I also like I think presentation as part of the package. 00:03:41 Speaker 2: You know with law, especially sad looking slaw. 00:03:46 Speaker 4: You don't. 00:03:46 Speaker 3: And I think that is what has caused dispersions on slaw in America and abroad. If slaw is happening like that for so long, I think people go to diners. Being a man from Jersey myself. I know this experience. You go to and you see the said like mayonnaise, you know, very pale slaw and it's like, yeah, I don't want that with my chicken fingers. 00:04:08 Speaker 4: Like no, no, And I get it. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: But if you put some red and task some red cabbage, some ready to happen slaw. 00:04:17 Speaker 4: You're in a good place. 00:04:18 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent agree. And I'm a very late adopter of slaw because so much of my childhood and teens and twenties were spent looking at old mayo covered slaw. When I discovered you could do vinegar, you can put other ingredients in. It doesn't just have to be old cabbage in white slime. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: No, it does not. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: The carrot is the slaw's good friends, bring me carrot along, you know. 00:04:47 Speaker 2: And I've recently discovered the difference between cold slaw and slaw. Do you have any idea what it is? 00:04:53 Speaker 4: Oh? I do not, please, I'm like, this. 00:04:56 Speaker 2: Could be wrong, but I believe coldslaw is cabbage law can be basically any vegetable, right right, right? Okay, So listener, you've learned something free of charge. Yeah, I mean, you can use that little piece of information at parties. At gatherings, you'll be the life of the party. 00:05:19 Speaker 3: Coast Law has been singing into the mic at the karaoke bar for way too long. We don't we don't hate Coast Law, but come on, you're singing the same five songs again and again. 00:05:31 Speaker 4: Let's some rid cabbage in. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: Let's some carrot in valopeno jalapeno. 00:05:36 Speaker 4: Let some brussels sprout? Slaw in. Yes, just step away, gather yourself, get your voice back. 00:05:42 Speaker 2: Have you ever made slaw? 00:05:45 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:05:45 Speaker 1: I have. 00:05:47 Speaker 4: It? 00:05:48 Speaker 3: Actually is you know, my girlfriend I we make we make law like pretty often. So you know, I'm here and you talk about slaw and I'm like, listen, that's all right. 00:06:00 Speaker 2: This is the Slaw Cast. This that'll be our spin off of this podcast. Everyone prepare twenty twenty three, Terrek and I will have a bi weekly podcast. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, and every week we're still eating your slaw because then lasts it just keeps lasting until we're done with that slaw. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep podcasting. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: Yes, I see an Indiana Jones poster behind you. Is that what's happening that? 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Yeah? That is a laser disc. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: I have a laser disc. 00:06:34 Speaker 4: That is a laser disc. I have four laser discs. 00:06:37 Speaker 2: Hanging up and where are the other ones? There? 00:06:40 Speaker 3: So there's Redular, the Lost Arc, there's Doctor No Uh, there's the Odd Couple starring Jack Levin and Walter Mathou, and then there's the Lone Ranger. And the story behind that was, you know, living in Brooklyn. Those are old. Those are from my broke days in Brooklyn, so tell them out yesterday. But living in Brooklyn, and yeah, I used to live in Crown Heights and there was just in the middle of the street a mountain, a pile of laser discs. 00:07:12 Speaker 4: But it was so strange. 00:07:14 Speaker 3: I don't know if someone had to leave their apartment in a in a rush or someone got their stuff thrown out of their apartment, but it was literally a mountain of laser discs. And I saw I saw Indiana Raiders of the Lost Dark. I saw the Odd Couple sticking out, and I was like, listen, before these get run over, I'm going. 00:07:33 Speaker 4: To pick out some selects because. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: I am, if anything, I am a huge movie buff especially from the seventies and eighties era, even though a couples from the sixties and so I was just like, all right, I'm picking my four and I'm out and not having a laser disc player because they don't make them anymore. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: The person who owned all of those probably didn't have a laser disc player. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: I doubt they did, but there were. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: If I can't for who's ever listening, if you can imagine just how many there were so many. I wanted to keep making trips back, but by the time I got home and went back to the street, like I think other people that collected there, selects like the mountain was gone. 00:08:14 Speaker 2: So what is the story there? I mean, that's somebody who was extremely rich in like nineteen ninety four, and then it was all downhill. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: From there, right right, somebody was like, yo, this nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty four, I'm riding. 00:08:28 Speaker 4: I'm riding high. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: I know you're by every laser disc in existence. 00:08:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh the DVDs. Pusha This laser disc is where it's at. 00:08:40 Speaker 4: Now leave me. My laser disc is my ugly ass coast law alone. 00:08:46 Speaker 2: How big is I've never actually seen one in person. Is it as big as like a record? 00:08:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's they're they're basically DVDs the size of a record, and that was supposed to be the future, right of home entertained they. 00:09:01 Speaker 4: I mean, and laser discs. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, we're early eighties kind of innovation. And so it was like laser disc, I think, was supposed to be like, yeah, but I know the commoners are doing vhs, but are you on some high end? Are you on some high end stuff? Like you on that on that next level, you want that laser disc? And I think somebody was just like, yeah, but DVD's are a lot more convenient. And I don't like your slog I don't like your apartment, I don't like your taste. 00:09:34 Speaker 4: I'm out of here. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: I feel like when laser discs failed, we should have kept the name and just called DVD's laser discs because it is a better name. 00:09:44 Speaker 3: It's much more fun spread, it's much more fun. It's a better name. It's much more futuristic. Right, But yeah, the digital video disc, like that's not laser disc. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: Laser disc being. 00:09:58 Speaker 4: A nerd that I am, I do think that. 00:10:01 Speaker 3: You know, if you know multidimensions exist, there is the alternate reality where laser discs kept going, and that that's. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: The world we should have. It went right, when we went left and. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: We should have gone right, and like everything in the universe is like working out. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: It's a much more balanced place. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: Much more balanced place. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: You know, people only look at their phones when they need to, Like you know, there's cancel culture, and you know, people don't make an issue of it. Like it's like things things are okay in laser disc world. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: Now, this is this is a theory I've actually held for a long time. I really believe that Vladimir Putin is the only person on Earth still watching laser discs. I feel like he's someone who has a large collection of laser discs. Does that line up? I feel like the logic makes sense to me. 00:10:59 Speaker 3: Totally lines up and totally lines up with like everything happening globally right now. Because he's just out of step. 00:11:09 Speaker 2: He's way out of step, but thinks he's right. 00:11:12 Speaker 4: Thinks he's right because he's like, why would you go smaller? 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Everything should be bigger and shinier. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: And laser disc is a better term. No, but that's my bad veluprud In accent. But yeah, like he's off step and he's definitely got him and Kim Jong un definitely. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: Have yes, both of those men have so many laser discs. They're both doused in cologne. 00:11:37 Speaker 3: And now that we have said this, I am looking at the reflection of myself, like with the laser just behind mel huh Am. 00:11:45 Speaker 4: I more tirrant than I thought I was. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: I think everyone's a little more tyrant than I think they are. Valid point, you get that much power and suddenly you're buying too many laser discs, and you know, just making poor choice after poor choice. I think you are lucky that when you when you went back to get all those laser discs, that they were gone. I think so that could have been a bad turn for your life, could have been a bad turn. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think an angel like saved my soul and got the rest of those laser discs, because yeah, I would have I would be the Vladimir Putin of the East coast. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Your guardian angel now has a huge collection of laser disks. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, for my soul, for the benomit fit of my soul. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: Oh Terrek, Well, speaking of things that you know are cluttering our homes, taking over our lives, things that we just don't need around, or something I'd like to talk to you about. Look, you agreed to be on this podcast a little while ago, and I was thrilled. I thought, Terrek, seems wonderful. We'll have a fantastic time together. You know, of course you were thrilled. I mean that goes without saying. I thought, you know, all open with slaw, Well, talk about slow for as long as possible, and then we'll just hit hit stop and the recording will be finished. So I was a little surprised when recently something came into my life from you. And now this podcast is called I said no gifts when you agreed to be on. I said no gifts. The title was right there, kind of a clear rule for the podcast, and so I was a little, let's just say, bewildered when something came into my life. I'm now holding kind of a bag here, yea, yeah, oh sure, sure, I'm happy to this is another birthday and you are even more gorgeous than ever. It's kind of a gift bag and obviously not my birthday lives though some light sexual harassment. 00:13:57 Speaker 4: I apologize, TERRK. 00:13:59 Speaker 2: Is this a gift for me? 00:14:01 Speaker 4: Yeah? Why not? 00:14:05 Speaker 2: It's not a great defense. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know we've talked about the multiverse. Schrodinger's cat is also another kind of you know, uh physicist term of just like you know, you open the box, you see if the cat is dead. What if the cat's alive? You open that bag? Is it your presence? 00:14:25 Speaker 4: Is it not? 00:14:27 Speaker 2: So you're saying that there could be a currently there's either a dead or a live cat in this bag, and we won't know if it's a live or dead until the bag is opened. 00:14:37 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we are at a nexus point right now. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Oh, the pressure of. 00:14:42 Speaker 3: Right and your decision, you know, whether we go left or right determines what kind of universe we're going to live in. Oh, we're going to live in a universe where no gifts exist. And you just get a birthday bag that no lies on the birthday. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: By the way, Uh, it wasn't my choice. 00:15:02 Speaker 3: It was what the cashier had, not saying that I bought it and like put a gift in that bag. I'm just saying, like, I'm just specifying the circumstances of the reality of the bag. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: It feels just like a lot of excuses. 00:15:15 Speaker 4: The reality of the contents in the bag. 00:15:17 Speaker 2: We do not know, Well, should we find out if the cat is alive? 00:15:21 Speaker 4: Let's find out. 00:15:39 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna get into this bag here, let's reach in. Okay, and now it's in Okay, So I've opened it and there's another package here. It was shipped to me. So let me I do now have a box cutter which was gifted to me. Let's see if I can reach in here. You know, Oh, I hope I haven't lost the box cutter. Oh nope, this is a USB chord we've got. Oh my god, Terrek, this is the box cutter is supposed to save time, and now me scrambling for it is only taking up time. 00:16:16 Speaker 3: No like, but this is what science is great at right Like there is you know, time is possibly just a construct, and what is happening right now is the birthing of a whole, absolute and new, beautiful, gorgeous. 00:16:32 Speaker 2: Universe, so many universes. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: So many universes, and like, just looking for the the box cutter is like listen, you know, that's that's part of the mythology of whatever's going to happen. People are going to talk about how, you know, how you on the sixth day finally found the box. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: This, I mean the slaw the laser discs that there are so many things about time on this podcast. This episode, this is a very time oriented episode. It is I have found the box cutter, and I've realized I let's see if we can get some of the clicking of the box cutter. We've never done that before. It does mean I'm opening a box cutter very close to my face, but I'm gonna get it next to the mic here and see if we can get that clicking. Okay, just for the listener to enjoy some light clicking. 00:17:18 Speaker 4: Yes, what are the kids called that? As m R or somebody? 00:17:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is some asfr some kind of threatening. Okay, we got the clicking. I've got it open. This is gonna lead to me being cut. I've got to be more careful. Okay, I'm slicing this bag. We're digging in. I don't think this even needed the box cutter. 00:17:37 Speaker 4: That's I don't think so. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: I don't think so, but you know, I do think there's somebody listening that really appreciated the clicking. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Yes, they needed that clicking today. Yeah, Okay, we're getting in. This is rather heavy object. It's kind of soft. Oh wow, it's kind of Let's see what's happening here. 00:17:57 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gotta be honest. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: I'm as excited as you are to see what is about to be birth here. 00:18:09 Speaker 2: Derek, I'm seeing. Okay, what is happening here? Let's see it's a This is a queen sheet set that says Merry Christmas all over. 00:18:22 Speaker 4: Oh, come on there we go. 00:18:23 Speaker 2: Look at that again. With the time and everything, we have the misplaced happy birthday. Now we have a misplaced Marry Christmas. We're recording as of today. It's May, yes, just for the listener's context, and the listener could be listening to this, Let's let's be honest in October of twenty thirty two. I mean, so their brain is fried, yeah, absolutely sizzling right now. What's going on here? What's happening with this sheet set? 00:18:51 Speaker 3: Well back to the ant that I talked about bursting through those church doors beginning of spring. I myself am not practicing of any dogmatic religions, but I do like history. And oh, by the way, everything I'm saying is a little bit of BS and a little bit of truth. But as a fan of history, and like you know, it's you know, December twenty fifth, which is the day we normally celebrate. You know that was Christian to celebrate. You know, I guess the birth of the Judea Christian savior, Jesus Christ. Factually, Ben Yeshua was probably born in the spring. 00:19:36 Speaker 2: So here we are another one of these. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: Here we go, we are here, we are in the the blossom blossom bosom of spring. And you got a queen set of Merry Christmas sheets, and you know you get to spread those out, you get to each a slaw and hopefully the world doesn't end. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Just absolutely lose my mind. Yes, he was found on a merry Christmas sheet covered in slaw. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: But nobody would blame you. Nobody. 00:20:12 Speaker 3: Everyone would totally get like, oh, the set of circumstances and everything going on in the world right now. 00:20:17 Speaker 4: We get it. 00:20:18 Speaker 2: We all have an excuse to completely lose our mind at this point. 00:20:21 Speaker 4: Yes we do. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: It's crazy now. So these sheets Merry Christmas? Do you do you do anything for Christmas? 00:20:33 Speaker 3: I usually try to visit the family, but outside of that, no, Like, it's my niece and nephew are now adults, so it's not like I can I like being the funn uncle getting getting them things. 00:20:45 Speaker 4: And you know that, you know, as kids they would be excited about, right, and now. 00:20:49 Speaker 3: It's just like you know, they don't want to play shoots and ladders, you know, so. 00:20:56 Speaker 2: They like in college out of college? 00:20:58 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, coming out of college. 00:21:00 Speaker 2: Now wow, yeah, that's it's hard to what gifts are you're getting at that point. 00:21:04 Speaker 4: Right, right? 00:21:05 Speaker 1: Right? 00:21:05 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's that was kind of my you know, the fun thing for me for Christmas and seeing the family and get my niece and nephew stuff. And now it's like all right, well, I guess this is the time to just enjoy the time off right right? 00:21:22 Speaker 2: Uh? And how are you as a bed maker? Sheet wise? What what's your situation there? You're making your bed every day? 00:21:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm a pretty good bed maker, you know. You know, me and my girlfriend, we you know, change chores. But yeah, I think I can get pretty fastidious when it comes to just like you know, making sure that the apartment is clean and tidy and uniform. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: So when you say you and your girlfriend exchange chores, is there like a table that has all of the chores on it? 00:21:57 Speaker 4: No? 00:21:57 Speaker 2: Is there just kind of an unspoken I did the dishes, you make the bed? 00:22:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an unspoken like I would. I would really love I would totally be down for. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: Itemized some accountability. 00:22:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, routine, but but yeah, that I would get thrown out. 00:22:14 Speaker 2: The most annoying spouse in the world. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm definitely the Jack Lemon of the. 00:22:23 Speaker 2: So you're doing a lot of the cleaning. 00:22:24 Speaker 4: Up most of the time, yes, okay. 00:22:28 Speaker 2: So what sort of chores is your girlfriend doing? 00:22:31 Speaker 4: Uh, she's the more frequent cook. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's also some heavy lifting. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And she is the like she has the vision of arranging the apartment. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Oh, she's kind of in charge of the art direction of the apartment, the visual element. 00:22:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you. 00:22:52 Speaker 2: Just keep it tidy. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: I keep it tighty. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: Do you do you have big opinions on how the apartment should look or did you just see it all control of her? 00:23:00 Speaker 4: I did? And then she she. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: You know, during the pandemic, we you know, we spent much more time in this apartment than we had ever thought we would, and I imagine everyone else did. And yeah, she completely rearranged it. When I was out for a walk and I came home and I was like, well, this is this is great. I have no objections. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: What like, what did you do? 00:23:23 Speaker 3: Did you move furniture, move furniture like you know, I'm speaking now, like there was I have like this like bookshelf area, nook. It's like you know, a makeshif office and that didn't exist before. 00:23:35 Speaker 2: And how long was this walk you went on? I go on, I go on walks, I go You got lost for six weeks. 00:23:42 Speaker 4: I will get lost for six Yeah, I will go on. I will go on. 00:23:47 Speaker 3: A typical walk for me is more than an hour, so I will go on like a journey. 00:23:54 Speaker 2: And is this kind of an aimless walk or is it like I'm I have a an end goal and I'll get there and then I'll turn around. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: No, it's the aimless walk I like to you know, I'll put my headphones on, I make a mix and a lot of times we'll walk together, but sometimes we you know, you need to walk separately or you know, and yeah, I'll just walk around Brooklyn. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. 00:24:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's great. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: I recommend anybody like, you know, make your make your playlist and just go walking, you know, if it's a nice day, and uh, you know that was a safe activity to do at the time. 00:24:36 Speaker 4: Still is right, being outside just walking. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, let me walk from neighborhood to neighborhood to neighborhood and circle my way back and two three hours later come back in the apartment is completely rearign. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: And how often are you making a playlist for the walk? Is it like I made one this week and I'll listen to it over and over or is it every time you take a walk you make a new playlist. 00:25:00 Speaker 4: I make a playlist every year. 00:25:02 Speaker 3: Every year, every year, I make a playlist, And so I have playlists going back to like oof, I guess since this playlist coming back to when did we start having so before the iPhone there was the iPod, right, and so uh yeah, I still use I know a lot of people use Spotify. I'm still an Apple Music guy. I never graduated, but you know they have these playlists every year where they you know, every Friday, where it's like, all right, well here's new music, music by artists you know and artists. 00:25:38 Speaker 4: You don't know. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: I love these. 00:25:40 Speaker 3: Things same, and so that's how I'll find new music. I will, all right on Friday, I'll listen to that playlist. So that's like that's a bike ride or a walk or a workout right there, just like listening to that Friday Friday new mix that they come up with, and then I'll find like a bunch of artists I never heard. 00:26:00 Speaker 2: And then you're taking those songs and putting them into the year long list. Absolutely so, Derek, this is something you and I have very much in common to make a yearly list. 00:26:11 Speaker 3: We're back at time, We're back at We're back, We're back here. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: A few years ago, I had what was basically some sort of mental break where I made a playlist dating back to I think nineteen eighty nine. Oh wow, And each one has at least like seventy five to one hundred songs on it, seventy five to one hundred and fifty songs. And it was a nice little project. It felt like I was just a little music librarian for a minute. And now I just do it every year, keeping up on it. It's wonderful. It makes it listening to music so easy. Well, back to the sheets. Is there anything else we need to say about sheets or sleeping? 00:26:52 Speaker 4: Are you? 00:26:53 Speaker 2: What sort of sleeper are you? 00:26:57 Speaker 3: I think the majority of the time I'm a good sleeper. 00:27:01 Speaker 4: I've been trying to take naps. 00:27:04 Speaker 2: Ooh, afternoon midday, late evening. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, the the mid the afternoon, midday to the afternoon nap like the moments you have when you are home, you have a day off and it's like all right, well, I am feeling a little tired right now, let me take a nap. Or after a workout and you eat and you get that like sugar hide and that crash, and it's just like, all right, well, let me take a nap and finding the sweet spot of like fifteen minutes is a. 00:27:36 Speaker 2: Nap a myth? An absolute myth. There's no you fall asleep for fifteen minutes. You're gonna sit here and tell me that you lay down on the bed and then you sleep for fifteen minutes. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: So to go back to the coast lofe thing. A nap, I think can consist of many different forms of rest. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay. 00:27:57 Speaker 3: So I think a nap can be yeah, you are sleep for fifteen minutes, but like once it goes over to twenty, then you start going into that deep sleep land and then like you wake up and your body is mad at you for the rest of the day. So for fifteen minutes is just like all right, well, you know, if it's like fifteen minutes of dozing in and out, that's okay. Or if it's like ten minutes of like, oh, I'm sleep and then five minutes of like all right, well, let me just stay awake, or fifteen minutes of meditation are just laying down and not looking at your phone. 00:28:31 Speaker 2: You're much more open minded about naps than I am. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be. It's you know, this is not an easy practice, but it is. When it works out, it's beautiful for me. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: The perfect nap needs to take place somewhere between one thirty and three forty five pm, and it should be I should be unconscious for at least half an hour, and that means fifteen minutes of just lying there until I'm asleep, and I also well, occasionally every few years, don't mind indulging in. You fall asleep at four pm and wake up at six pm and feel like you just crawled out of a swamp. There's something about that that's kind of appealing. 00:29:13 Speaker 4: Sometimes you need to do that where you're. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: Just your body is just like we're sleeping for two and a half hours, and you're gonna feel pretty terrible when you wake up, but it's gonna solve something. 00:29:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think doing that or you know what, I'm gonna have. 00:29:28 Speaker 4: This indulgence dessert right in the middle of the day. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: I haven't had dinner, I haven't really had a nutritious meal, but like, do you know slotting those things inwards, it's like, Oh, normally a parent would probably say don't do this, and getting to do that definitely saw. 00:29:45 Speaker 4: Someone as an adult. 00:29:47 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Now let me ask you this about sheet. So listener wrote in for another part of the podcast that we'll get to eventually, but this feels relevant to this conversation. They brought up this idea that people don't sleep with the top sheet, and apparently it's very controversial. Have you heard about this. 00:30:07 Speaker 4: I am not. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: I'm still not even entirely familiar. But when you get into bed, do you have like a comforter and then a sheet under it, and then the fitted sheet under that? 00:30:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a savage. How else would you do it? 00:30:20 Speaker 2: That's why I was completely baffled. Apparently a large part of the population puts a fitted sheet and then just throws a comforter on top of it and just sleeps between those two things. 00:30:31 Speaker 4: What kinds of people. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: Are doing that I have never heard of this. 00:30:38 Speaker 4: They give you the fitted sheet for a reason. 00:30:42 Speaker 3: You can't just be slashing around in your bed with the top sheet and a comforter. 00:30:48 Speaker 2: Well, let me clarify. I think what it means is the fitted sheet is put on the mattress I see, and then a comforter is put over that. But then there's no in between that. But you buy the whole sheet set, wouldn't you just put the other sheet on there? 00:31:02 Speaker 4: That's disgusting. 00:31:03 Speaker 2: Also, it makes like, doesn't that mean you have to constantly be washing that comforter? 00:31:07 Speaker 4: Yes, it needs you. 00:31:09 Speaker 3: Now have to wash the comforter more than like you twice a week, mean you gotta wash it every time you're doing the launder, which I hope is once a week. 00:31:17 Speaker 4: You are filthy? Who are these people? 00:31:20 Speaker 2: Your home is filthy? Your home is filthy, it's crawling with bugs. 00:31:24 Speaker 4: Do you throw out the wash cloths and just keep the towels? You're dirty? Stop? 00:31:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very confusing to me. I don't understand. I was shocked that there's apparently a large part of the population that has just got this either a filthy comforter or is washing a comforter frequently, and that's a bulky item. 00:31:43 Speaker 4: See, I'm gonna hit you with a theory. This is where I think we are. 00:31:45 Speaker 3: Where we are as an American society today, is I really think I think you're honest something We should have stuck with the laser discs because what that means is like, listen, we know it's bulky, we know it's not really convenient for like storage in your home library, but dang it, Let's take our time before we go compact to the DVD and then we go digital. 00:32:10 Speaker 4: Let's take our time with things. 00:32:12 Speaker 3: Because if people don't know how to take the time, all of a sudden, they are living like children who have suddenly become adults. Everyone is now in the movie Big and they're putting throwing out their footage sheets and just putting the top sheet with a comforter over their dirty mattress, and it's it's gross. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: You haven't got to get back to that other laser just timeline. 00:32:35 Speaker 3: You gotta just yeah, we gotta slow down, like read like do you need to read instructions for your bedroom sheets? 00:32:42 Speaker 4: Is that what we are? Have? People lost? 00:32:46 Speaker 2: It makes absolutely no sense. It's chaos, no rules, no rules. People are just living like maniacs. And I just I hope that more people are used all of the sheets that are given to them. 00:33:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why I gave it to a good I know, a civilized human being. 00:33:06 Speaker 2: When I see one, thank you, I appreciate that. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I now have my Merry Christmas sheets, which I mean speaking of a maniac, take off that comforter and see a Merry Christmas sheet in July. You're dealing with a real lunatic. But yes, it is a fun surprise. 00:33:29 Speaker 4: It is a fun surprise. 00:33:30 Speaker 3: And the more fun surprises we can put in life like and nappened the midday, you know, ice cream on a Monday. 00:33:37 Speaker 2: You know, like got to live it up. 00:33:39 Speaker 3: You gotta live it up. But no fitted sheet is You're breaking too many. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: Rules, way too many rules. You've got to have some sort of guidelines in your life. 00:33:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, you wear leather pants on a Tuesday. But if you're doing that and you got to save those other pants for the weekend, that's a leather pants are a weekend pant. 00:34:00 Speaker 2: It's certainly I'm gonna show up to an office one day and some leather pants and everything's gonna fall apart from me. 00:34:08 Speaker 4: It is Monday. 00:34:09 Speaker 2: What are you doing in those leather pants? 00:34:13 Speaker 4: That is a weekend pant. It's a party pant. 00:34:16 Speaker 2: You should be mowing the lawn in those Yeah. 00:34:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. Depending on depending on the universe, the rules change. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: Oh, Terrek, Well, I think it's time to play a game. All right, Uh, let's play, you know, let's we haven't played this game in a minute. Let's play Gift Master. I need to number between one and ten from you, number twenty one and ten nine nine. Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces right now. You can promote something, you could recommend something, you can do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: Uh well, if people are listening, I have no idea. Who I am. Nice to meet you. My name is Saic Davis. 00:34:55 Speaker 3: I am the announcer inside kick on the Amber Ruffin Show, which is that you can find Peacock. We air Peacock on Fridays, but you can find all our episodes just by going on Peacock now. 00:35:07 Speaker 4: We also have clips on YouTube. I am a. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Member, facilitator, performer on Freestyle of Supreme, who are touring the country right now. So if you are where they are. I highly recommend you check out the show. It's a fully improvised show, all freestyle, improvised rap and yeah good time. Sometimes you might even catch Metal Miranda, founder of the show, on stage himself. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: You know, I. 00:35:36 Speaker 3: Recommend that you put that fitted sheet on your mattress if you are a top seat person yourself and you're listening to this and you're like, pusha listen, I'm trying. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: To help you. Ready, Okay, all right, there we go. We're good. 00:35:51 Speaker 2: I was just gonna let you go, but then I thought, I feel like he's running out of sheet information to spread. Yes, this is how the game works. I'm going to tell you three potential gifts that you can give away, objects, experiences, What have yours? I'm going to tell you three celebrities. You're gonna tell me which celebrities you're gonna give which gift and why does that make sense? 00:36:15 Speaker 4: Totally? 00:36:16 Speaker 2: Okay? The gifts you'll be giving today are okay. Number one, this is more of an experience or well, you know, the gift is the power to manipulate the weather. Number two is a box of snack Wells. Do you remember snack Wells? Yeah, kind of a Diet's Diet cookie from the nineties. 00:36:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, they made like they weren't Vana fingers, but they. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: Right, they were kind of like a treat that no one enjoyed. And number three is a Boston accent. So you'll be giving this person a new accent. We've done the gifts, okay, so and the people you'll be giving them too. Are we're scrolling through the doc we're scrolling through the dock. Okay. Number one Carrie Russell actor, Carrie Russell. She's great. 00:37:08 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm that number Carrie Russell felicity, I. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: Believe so, yes, I think that's a I know Carrie from the Americans Americans. Yeah, that's a next up. Let's say we've got Carrie Russell. Number two, we've got gal Gado wonder Woman herself, and number three we have Tyler the Creator. 00:37:34 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: A good group of people. Yeah, nice mix of Outside of Wonder Woman. I'm not quite sure what Gala Gado does outside of that video that she sent to the internet beginning of the pandemic. 00:37:48 Speaker 4: Hey guys, so yes, yeah, I remember that video. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: But a nice group. What are you going to be doing? Who will you be giving what? And why? 00:37:58 Speaker 4: Oh? This is all right? 00:37:59 Speaker 3: So Carrie Russell gets the Boston accent because I did I have seen an episode of Americans, which I now have to sit and watch the whole show. 00:38:08 Speaker 4: But she's tremendous in that show from what I saw, She's so good in it. 00:38:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, and being a tremendous accents actress an actor, I imagine, you know, just having the Boston accent on lock in your quiver set would be an asset. So I'm throwing her the Boston accent. She will be in a Ben Affleck movie at some point and it will all just be like spitting Boston bars. Gal Gado gets the snack Wells. She gets the snack Wells because you know, you know, she's already wonder woman. She's got a lot going on. But yeah, I you know, she's you know, an international kind of you know, every time I see her in a project, they painting her with like intrigue and oh look at this and she everything, it's all sparkling water, the very finest tap and it's like, nah, eat some snack wells. 00:39:05 Speaker 2: He's processed cookie. 00:39:08 Speaker 3: Eat these mediocre dry ass cookies and just you know, know how the rest of us have been living our lives, Uh, and I got to give Tyler the Creator the experience to the power to manipulate weather, just because that is going to be an amazing music video and it's going to be an amazing album, and yeah, what happens if you give the You. 00:39:35 Speaker 2: Know, I would be a little wary of giving of giving Tyler the Creator the power to manipulate the weather. I feel like he's a mischievous person. 00:39:44 Speaker 4: Absolutely, he absolutely is. 00:39:47 Speaker 2: I mean, he does have good taste. 00:39:48 Speaker 3: Though he does have good tastes, and thus far, his miss his trick sternness I think is inherently good. 00:39:58 Speaker 2: Always good intent. Yeah, that's true. He's got a good compass. 00:40:02 Speaker 4: He's got a good compass. 00:40:04 Speaker 3: I haven't thus far, I haven't seen anything from Tyler created him, just like, ooh, I'm worried about him. Like I feel like the tricksterness, Like he would definitely pull some tricks. They would definitely be like, all right, it's cold in July, which again would make those sheets that I gave you like the perfect gift. But but I do think like he would. You know, Hey, there's a drought going on in California right now. Hey, the reservoirs need some help, so a little bit of rain. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: You know that is that's a very smartly given gift. 00:40:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: It may it may be the color of kool aid water, because that's how the creator. 00:40:45 Speaker 4: But guess what, that's all right. 00:40:47 Speaker 2: It would work, It would work. Yeah. I think the only one of those people I wouldn't want to give the power to manipulate the weather is galicato I. I don't know that she's ready for that level of responsibility. No, whych she gets a snack will, just got a dusty box of snack Well. 00:41:04 Speaker 3: You get a dusty box of snack wills and sit down and eat them all and just think about your choices in life. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Perfectly played, really beautifully played. I appreciate that gift giving ability. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails, people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of my listeners, as far as I can tell, has got some issue in their life that they need help with, some problem that they ask me to help with. I of course get the help of my guest and we solve issue after issue. Will you help me answer an email? 00:41:43 Speaker 4: Certainly? 00:41:44 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get into this. Let me read here that says just kind of a kurt hello, and oh but then I feel bad. I'm a new listener and enjoy the Okay, Okay, so I forgive the person for just saying hello. That's fine. But here's the meat of the email. It says I recently attended a destination wedding in Tuloom at an all inclusive resort. I live in Los Angeles and my friend, the bride currently lives in Austin. Because the cost of attending the wedding was so expensive a thousand dollars plus, I decided I wasn't going to send a gift. My friend didn't even register for any items. Her wedding site just had a link to send money. The wedding was Saturday. I returned home Wednesday night, and on Thursday, my friend reached out saying she had been unpacking all of her luggage and wanted to make sure she didn't miss a card from me. I was shocked. After asking advice from friends, I finally responded a few hours later, saying that I was having a hectic day getting back to work and that I hadn't brought a card and hoped unpacking wasn't too difficult, she responded. Okay, wow, this is good. She responded saying, so no gift. I was beyond myself. Proper wedding etiquette says you have one year to send a gift. Oh that's something I wasn't aware of. I'm going to take advantage of that to its full extent. So that's one year to send a gift. So not only was her blatantly asking for one improper, but it hadn't even been a whole week yet. After a lot of thought, I responded back saying I was planning on sending her one later and that things have been hectic. It's been two days no response from her. I'm now torn on what to do. I almost feel she was testing my friendship, Like if I don't send something, that's it. I don't really want to just send the online fund because of someone who is perpetually single. I find people asking for money to be ridiculous. I'd rather send an item. Also, because this friend lives in another state and is married with a baby, our friendship might not last much longer as is. So what do I do in this situation? That's from harmony? Harmony has brought a real situation to the podcast, seems like her friend's a complete psycho. 00:44:03 Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah, I'm glad we got this one. 00:44:08 Speaker 2: A lot going on here. 00:44:10 Speaker 3: There's a lot going on. But if I may take the. 00:44:14 Speaker 2: Crack, please do. I would love to hear your thoughts on this harmony. 00:44:19 Speaker 3: If you are listening, I say you do as your namesake is already given. You live in harmony and you forget that hot mess of a friend and leave that friend in the distance. You risk life and limb to travel now, to go on plane on a plane right now, we are still in a pandemic. So to travel, to spend you spend over one thousand dollars. 00:44:43 Speaker 2: Over one thousand dollars. 00:44:45 Speaker 3: To spend over one thousand dollars, so I imagine that is the airplane ticket we're going and returning, the hotel accommodation. Probably had to pay for food when you were there, so all right, that is one thousand dollars to show up your friends like hey, look at me in this moment that nobody really cares about. And you showed up anyway, and you were like, hey, I wish you the best, and your friend comes back with like, where's my gift? 00:45:14 Speaker 2: Oh, the passive aggressive. I'm unpacking. I was just making sure I didn't miss something. Is I mean, the most transparent move this person's ever made. 00:45:25 Speaker 4: What was she? 00:45:26 Speaker 2: Give me a break? 00:45:27 Speaker 3: Just ask the unmitigated goal, the nerve, the nerve to be like, where's my gift? Your presence, Harmony, your heart, Harmony, your presence, your name is a gift, your life, your breath, your. 00:45:45 Speaker 4: Witnessing was a gift. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: You didn't even put up a proper registry and you're coming back. 00:45:51 Speaker 4: Listen, You're going to raise a terrible child. 00:45:56 Speaker 3: And you're going to live a terrible life and everyone is going to be cleared the heck out. And I know, I know they serve Coast law at that wedding and not the profits law. So Harmony, eat you some Raycavis law, live your life and forget this friendship. 00:46:13 Speaker 2: This is a perfect advice. I think if you have a destination wedding, you don't. You cannot expect a gift from anyone. Yeah, if they bring a gift, great, but you are asking someone to go on a compulsory vacation. They're spending money to go to somewhere that they didn't have in mind. No, think a Harmony here could have gone to Paris. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: She could have gone to Paris. And I'm stressing traveling in a pandemic. I don't care where you. 00:46:42 Speaker 4: Think you are in this level, like it is not easy. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: No, they're not comfortable, it's not safe. You could still get sick. So you've got to really want to go on the vacation. 00:46:55 Speaker 4: You got to really want to go on the vacation. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: I don't know if Harmony is this is like you're the one if you know she didn't specify the email, like whether this friend versus the only person she knows at this destination wedding. 00:47:07 Speaker 2: Oh if she was alone at the wedding, Oh what a feeling right like if she was. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: Alone at the wedding, Harmony, I I really wish you were this was a live call, because it'd be like, well did you dance? Because if you hit the dance floor, you did everything. You did everything that was expected of you. That was the gift, now nerve. 00:47:29 Speaker 2: I don't just to back up a couple of steps, I don't want to point any fingers. I don't. I obviously want to be on Harmony's side here, but I am I am seeing a few concerns. First of all, this friend is obviously horrible. If this is the this can't possibly be the first behavior this horrible person has exhibited. 00:47:48 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 00:47:50 Speaker 2: This person has probably been awful since Harmony met her day one. So the fact that Harmony decided to go to this wedding of this horrible person, Yeah, Harmony, I'm questioning your choices. And then also one thousand dollars plus how long were you there for? Didn't you shop around for airfare? 00:48:09 Speaker 4: Right? 00:48:10 Speaker 3: Harmony, you sound like a really good person, someone who you know. 00:48:15 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: A good person, but I do know that I'd like to accommodate other people before I accommodate myself. 00:48:21 Speaker 4: Sure, I know that has called some issues, and as. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: Someone who is learning and has learned from some of those issues, Yeah, don't do this again. Check your friends. Check this like, are they worth it? Are they worth it? 00:48:35 Speaker 2: This friend is going to have a second wedding and they're going to invite you to an even more expensive destination wedding, and you do not want to fall back into her trap. So, Harmony, I hope some lessons have been learned here. 00:48:47 Speaker 4: I hope so too. 00:48:48 Speaker 2: Harmony because you're I'm now coming full circle. I'm completely blaming harmony for this circulation. I you know, her friend may be the devil, but the devil can be avoided harmony. 00:49:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:49:04 Speaker 2: And if you're spending over one thousand dollars to go to a wedding of someone who sends a Texas says so no gift, then your hands are not entirely clean. Let's just say that. 00:49:17 Speaker 4: Check check your rolodex. I know people don't use rolodex as anymore, but your many might. Harmony might. 00:49:24 Speaker 3: And if you do, yeah, go through it and see, like, see who in that that that rolodesth list is not worthy of your friendship. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: Friendship is a gift itself. 00:49:35 Speaker 2: Friendship is a gift harmony. I feel like basically the answer to your question ultimately is you're not giving You're not sending the friend a gift, of course not. You're blocking her number. You may you may even go as far as asking for a refund on your airfare. Absolutely try to get some of that money back and take yourself on a real vacation. 00:49:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the email you send. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: Or you get married and have like a kind of a revenge wedding and you plan it for what's an expensive place to visit. Let's see flights from LA to New Zealand. New Zealand. That's a tough light, right, that's what you do, Harmony. You've got to find somebody quick. You gotta set up a wedding. You've got to invite this bread and double down. Revenge is on the menu. 00:50:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's best of cold if it is low. 00:50:26 Speaker 2: The perfect way to end this perfect advice we've given Harmony, Harmony, go forward, Terrek. I now have my Christmas sheets, which I will be using all of on my bed at some point during the year before Christmas. I'm thrilled I might take a nap on them. Maybe I could throw one of the sheets out on the lawn and have myself a little picnic. 00:50:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll be the top feat because you're civilized. 00:50:54 Speaker 2: Right, I know what I'm doing. I'm not completely out of control, despite a lot of what's happening on this podcast. I'm so happy to have had you here. What a wonderful time this has been. 00:51:08 Speaker 4: It has been an absolute joy. Thank you so much for having me. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for being here and listener. We're at the end of the podcast. Maybe it's time for you to go make some slaw with my warnings, the things I've given, the advice I've given you, maybe have it for a dinner party or something, or don't do whatever you want. You know, it's summer spring, I don't know the temperatures are rising. Do something to enjoy yourself. Turn off the podcast, turn off your phone, go enjoy yourself. I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson and it's beautifully mixed by John Brandley. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? Now? Make sure to listen, follow, and most important, they leave a heartfelt review. On Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and don't forget. You can listen to new episodes one week early on Amazon Music or early and ad free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in the Wondery app. 00:52:33 Speaker 1: But I invited you, hear fund a man myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my you gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough, and I'm already had too much stuff. Say you dare to surbey me?