1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, we are all 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: closely watching the border right now because it's one of 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: the top issues in the country. Of course, just last 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: week we had the State of the Union address and 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Joe Biden came out and really didn't address the situation 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: with illegal immigrants in the country hurting people until Marjorie 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Taylor Green yelled out the name of Lake. Well, what 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: happened in the days after the State of the Union 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I think was the most shocking because people were already 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: disturbed that he couldn't call out Lake and Riley and 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: talk to her family. He's never called the family, He's 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: never talked to them, he's never told them he's sorry 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: for what happened. This is someone who came across the 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: border on his watch while he was president, was convicted 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: or at least committed crimes, was let go because of 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Biden's border policies, and instead of coming out and saying, hey, 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I really should have taken time in 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: the speed to address the Riley family and taken time 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: to actually say we're sorry for what happened. He was 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: asked by a radical reporter, you said illegal, and he 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: immediately said oh, undocumented, They're undocumented. I don't want to 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: disrespect anyone. I think in that moment, so many people 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: across the country just had like this audible gasp. How 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: could you apologize to a murderer? I mean illegal crimes, 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: illegal border crossing, illegally murdering someone. There's illegal there in 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: so many different ways. And yet he's like, oh, didn't 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: want to disrespect anyone. And I really thought that this 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: was a moment for the country to say, who is 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: this guy, Like, who is he for? If you're not 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: for the citizens of the United States of America, who 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: are you for. Well, my guest today is here to 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: talk about that and other things that are going on 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: in this state of Arizona, which I always say every 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: state is a border state. Arizona is definitely a border state. 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: Feels it every day. We are so excited to have 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Mark Lamb with us. He is the sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and is currently running for the US Senate. Mark, thank 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on tutor. I appreciate it. 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: It's a great opportunity, So thank you. 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Well, you heard me talking a little bit about what 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: we saw last week with the State of the Union. 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate you being here with us today 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: because I can't imagine what it's like being on the 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: border every day, seeing these people coming across that are 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: oftentimes on the terror watch list, that you know, many 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: of them are coming over here for nefarious reasons. Some 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: of them have also suffered terrible abuse along the way. 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: It's a combination of really bad things. I mean, no 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: matter how which way you look at it, people are 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: either abused or people are coming over because they're bad people. 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: There is no control of our southern border. What do 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: you think of the president's remarks? 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Tutor, there's nothing good that comes 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: from open borders. You know, you hear the left off 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: the time say well, it's humane to have an open border, 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: and there's nothing humane about it. And I can go 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: on on all the reasons why it's not humane in 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: a second. But I was very very well, I think 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: I expected that type of State of the Union. You know, 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: it was very partisan, it was very angry. He waited 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: forty minutes before he actually talked about the border. He 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: talked about Snickers bars, and he talked about the amount 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: of chips in a bag, and he talked about the 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: fees you pay on your ticket market, ticket Master ticket. 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Those are all the things he talked about before he 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: talked about the border, and not until Marjorie Taylor Green 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: kind of put him on the spot and then he 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: jumped into it. But then he messed it up because 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: he let the truthful part come out when he called 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: illegals right, and then all the left lost their minds. 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, you could see her face. She was cringing 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: as he says illegals. But he was right, you know, 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: and he knows they're illegals. But you know, this is 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: all this is all part of their plan, and it's 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: very disappointing to see because we're the victims of it 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: as Americans. We're the victims of it here in Arizona. 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: Like you said, every state has become a border state 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: from everybody that they're letting across. And one more thing 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: about how this has changed for decades, we've been dealing 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: with this, and you'll hear people say, oh, this has 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: been going on for decades. That's right, it has, but 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: this is very different. What we've dealt with in the 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: past is predominantly people from Mexico, some from Guatemala, maybe 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: some from Central America. That's not what this is now, 86 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: this is predominantly military age man. The bar graph has 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: completely flipped upside down, and now nearly all of them 88 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: are coming from other countries, one hundred and seventy countries 89 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: to be exact, from places like Africa, from Soudan, from 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: from Mauritania, from let me turn off my radio here 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: so it doesn't go off in the background. From Mauritania, 92 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: from Ukraine, from Russia, from China. Thirty seven thousand Chinese 93 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: nationals last year, mostly military age man. This year we've 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: already up to over twenty thousand, will probably go almost 95 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: double what we were last year, from four hundred and 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: fifty people in twenty twenty one. So that's the change 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: that's existed. Tutoring, like you mentioned, there's all these potential 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: terrorists that are coming in. There's the terrorists we're catching, 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: there's the criminals we're catching, and the criminals were not 100 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: And then, like I talked to the FBI, they said, 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: this isn't even what concerns us. What concerns us is 102 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: the secondary and the tertiary people, the people that are 103 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: not on the terrorist watches, but more than willing to 104 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: do the terrorists bidding. 105 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Well. And you mentioned that every state is a border state, 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: and we're obviously talking about Arizona. But I just want 107 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: to remind the audience here that Lake and Riley was 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: in Georgia. And the really sad thing about this situation is, 109 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: here's a family that is suffering. And I have four 110 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: daughters myself, and I think about this and I think 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: it's your worst nightmare. It's your worst nightmare to have 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: this happen, but not just to have this happen, than 113 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: to have everyone in the country fighting over this when 114 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: it is your daughter's life, when it is your family, 115 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: and it's happening to your family, And I can't imagine 116 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: in this moment them not having the privacy that they deserve. 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: But they don't because of the ridiculous policies of Joe Biden. 118 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: And he comes out and he says, well, it's not me, 119 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: it's the Republicans. So you want to go in there 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: and you want to change things up in the Senate. 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: What do you think when you hear him say well, 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I can't do anything about it, Well. 123 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: That's a lie. He can do something about it, and 124 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: he doesn't need a border bill. He doesn't need any 125 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: bill to be able to do what he needs to 126 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: do to fix border. Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: two twelve f he has sweeping authority to be able 128 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: to do whatever he needs to do to protect our 129 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: southern border. Look, these are the same power he used 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: to undo all of President Trump's policies that were working. 131 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: He'd overdid them, he undid them overnight, and now he 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: can use that same authority to reinstitute a lot of 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: those same policies and the policies that will work. If 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: he says he knows what to do to shut down 135 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: the border, then do it. You don't need another bill, 136 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: you don't need more money. That's a lie. 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: What about our We talk all the time about how 138 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: this is affecting people right there on the border. There's 139 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: actually a Native American reservation right there. We hear a 140 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: lot of times about these people's farms, they're ranches, But 141 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: this is a Native American reservation where there's no border wall. 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: How do those folks protect themselves if they have no 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: not even a wall between them and whatever is coming 144 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: across that border. Like you just said it could be terrorist, 145 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: it could be anyone. 146 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: So just so people know, I am not on the border. 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: I am one county off. I'm fifty miles off the 148 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: border where that Indian reservation is. And under President Trump, 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: we actually would have more apprehensions in our county than 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 2: they were in the border counties during that time because 151 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: the people would come through the desert because there is 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: no wall down there. There is maybe a barbed wire 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: fence or maybe some normandy barrier or some other bars 154 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: of steel, but it's not a fence by any stretch 155 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: of the imagination, and so that is some of the 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: stuff that we deal with. They just come right over 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: and a lot of those folks that live within that 158 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: community also help the cartels. They get paid by the cartels, 159 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: and so it makes it extremely difficult. And frankly, it's 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: a very sparsely populated Native American community, so there's lots 161 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: of small little villages, but there's plenty of spaces where 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: these folks can come in this country and traverse the 163 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: desert for a few days and end up in a 164 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: county like mine, which is where they'll end up when 165 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: they come out of the desert. They'll end up in 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: my county and then we deal with them at that point. 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's frustrating. It's frustrating for them. Even those 168 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: folks are becoming overwhelmed with it and they're starting to 169 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: complain about it because this is a real problem. And 170 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: one more thing about the lake and Riley being in Georgia, 171 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: the majority of the people that come across here. If 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: I were to line up twenty people that come across 173 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: and ask them where they're going, Arizona will not be 174 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: one of their Not one of them will say Arizona. 175 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: Every single one of them will mention a different state 176 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: outside of Arizona. So this is where the jumping off point. 177 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: We deal with the initial jumping off of all the 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: human trafficking, of all the drug trafficking, but it doesn't 179 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: stay in Arizona. The majority of it ends up in 180 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: states like yours or different states across this country. That's 181 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: where they want to go because that's where it's far 182 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: away from from border patrol. Well, it's far away from 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: ice and it is in a lot of them go 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: to these sanctuary cities. 185 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: That's why I think this is so key when people 186 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: are looking at who they elect. Let's take a quick 187 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 188 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Even if they're like, oh gosh, we're in Michigan. You know, 189 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: this is not a border state. It could happen what 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: happened at Georgia in Georgia could happen at the University 191 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: of Michigan. It could happen at the University of Wisconsin. 192 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: It can happen anywhere, because these folks are traveling. They're 193 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: not staying right there across the border waiting to be 194 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: picked up. They're not just like, hey, we'll just hang 195 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: out right here. They're coming into the United States. And 196 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: these sometimes are gang members. You've experienced with gang members, 197 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: What is it? I mean for those of us who 198 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: don't have that daily experience, and for those people out 199 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: there who hear about these folks coming across, and for 200 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: every person that's coming across genuinely to come across and 201 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: get a good job, there are still people out there 202 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: who are gang members who are coming across for bad reasons. 203 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about what the mentality of 204 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: some of these gang members is that are coming across. 205 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, their mentality is to take advantage of a situation 206 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: that our government has created whether it's the welfare programs 207 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: that exist in this country, whether it's the fact that 208 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: this government has shown complete indifference to Americans, to homeless veterans, 209 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: to us. They don't want to take our tax dollars 210 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: and use it to help our homeless veterans and our 211 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: homeless people. They want to take those tax dollars and 212 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: benefit illegals, people that came into this country illegally or 213 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: that made false asylum claims, which, by the way, everybody 214 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: who comes from Mexico over the border, anybody who came 215 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: from the country of Mexico crossover our border in Arizona 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: or into Texas is here and makes an asylum claim, 217 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: that's an illegal asylum claim because they should have made 218 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: the asylum claim in the first country they got to, 219 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: which we had either been Mexico or one of the 220 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: other five countries they came through before they got here. 221 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: So all of those things coming in here are set up. 222 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: We're setting ourselves up for gangs, and these Chilean gangs 223 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: now are not only in Michigan. I talked to the 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: sheriff out in Oakland County, Michigan, outside of Detroit. He 225 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: was telling us about these Chilean gangs, Venezuelan gangs doing 226 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: home break ins. We're having the same problem out here 227 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: in Arizona. These are and many of these folks are 228 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: very very violent and have no regard for human life. 229 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: The MS thirteen, the Chilean gangs, and we have to 230 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: deal with this, and we just cringe to know that 231 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: these folks are filtering in throughout America and they're gonna 232 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: commit crimes on other American citizens. We take that very serious, 233 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: which is why we work hard every day. And you know, 234 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people say, well, Sheriff, you know 235 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of good people, and you kind of 236 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: hit on it. There's a lot of good people trying 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: to come into this country. As a matter of fact, 238 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: I had a senate, a congresswoman out of Washington tell 239 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: me that one day, and I said, ma'am, you're right, 240 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: there are a lot of good people coming here. But 241 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: let me pose an example to you. If I were 242 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: to have ten people that come into this country, five good, 243 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: five bad, would you let me put them in your 244 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: house if I couldn't tell you which ones are bad? 245 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: And she was just quiet, and I said, you're quiet 246 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: because you know the answer is no. But let me 247 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: take it a step further. Let me tell you. Let's 248 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: say I had ten people. One of them was bad, 249 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: he was a sex fender, but I couldn't tell you 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: which one he was. Would you let me put them 251 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: in your house? And she's quiet again, And I said, 252 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: you're quiet because you know the answer is no. Well, 253 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: let me tell you what my job as a sheriff is. 254 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: If I have to stop nine good people to stop 255 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: one bad person, that's my job. That is what the 256 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: people expect me to do. And you know why I'm 257 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: okay with that because we have a legal process in 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: place for the good people to come into this country. 259 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: And here's one more thing, Congresswoman. Those good people, they 260 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: broke the law. And every day I have good Americans 261 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: who make mistakes and break the law, and we have 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: to hold them accountable. And we should hold those people 263 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: accountable as well, because they whether they're good or not. 264 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: Last time I looked in the law, it didn't said 265 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: don't hold them accountable if they're good people. It says 266 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: if you come into this country illegally, that's a crime. 267 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: And that's what we should be holding them accountable for. 268 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, I remember years ago, there was a story, 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: and I think this is probably common story of someone 270 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: who was in the United States then sent their child 271 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to meet them, sent their child on this month's long 272 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: journey alone, and we're talking about children that are three 273 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: and under alone, and then somebody is supposed to magically 274 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: find the parent in the United States when they get 275 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: here and reunite them. And this was like the story 276 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: at the time was Democrats saying, gosh, what a beautiful 277 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: story of a family trying to reunite. And I remember 278 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: at the time people going, well, wait a minute. In 279 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: the United States, if you do this, you get your 280 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: child taken away and you get hold off to jail 281 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: for putting for child endangerment. Why is why do we 282 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: feel differently or why is there a message that we 283 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: should feel differently about people who put their children in 284 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: danger when it's to come across the border. I mean, 285 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine taking my child with me, But those 286 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: folks that are sending a child alone, how can we 287 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 1: not take that more seriously? 288 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Well we should. I mean, look, I don't even hear 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: it enough talked about. We have about one hundred and 290 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: fifty thousand unaccompanied miners that come into this country every year, 291 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: and you know, the Left wants to paint the story 292 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: like you just did, of this child being reunited with 293 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: their families. No, many of these children have been stolen 294 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: by the cartels. Many of these children have been sold 295 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: by their families to the cartels. Many of these children 296 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: are being used as ponds and raped. And the whole 297 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: intention of bringing these children into this country is for 298 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: hard labor or the sex trade. We have had. You know, 299 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: doctor Phil was recently talking about this because the government 300 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: has admitted they don't know where about one hundred thousand 301 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: of those kids have gone. Doctor Phil looked into it, 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: other people have looked into it. Most of them are 303 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: going to the same address in the same different states, 304 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: which obviously is a trafficking house. And now these children 305 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: are in the wind and they're being put into hard labor, 306 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: they're putting put into the sex trade. And you know, 307 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: he was on the view telling him this, and one 308 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: of the ladies on the view had the gall to say, 309 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: she goes, well, you know, is it all of them 310 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: or some of them? It's like, if it's one of them, 311 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: it's a problem. 312 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, are we got some of them? Now? 313 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: Our moral compass is broken and people will put politics 314 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: in front of people. Are these are the left puts 315 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: politics in front of people and they pretend like they care. 316 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: You bring up a good point because earlier you brought 317 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: up Oakland County, Michigan, and I want to go back 318 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: to that for a second, because Oakland County got very 319 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: little pressed. But they did have these gangs, these Chilean gangs, 320 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: coming in, breaking into homes, putting people in danger, stealing things. 321 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, mass chaos in a county right here in 322 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan, which people don't naturally expect border 323 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: problems to come to the state of Michigan. But as 324 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: we said, every state is a border state. Now, just 325 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend, we had a state rep. Her name 326 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: is Betsy Coffee. She lives up in northern Michigan. And 327 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: when the President came out and said this thing about 328 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to disrespect the murderer of Lake and 329 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Riley and call him an illegal he's undocumented. She posted 330 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: that on x and said, thank you. Now let me 331 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: clarify exactly or bring you into a whole picture. Here. 332 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: There is a group called We the People here in 333 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. It is a C four organization 334 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: that brought paid her to run for office. First of all, 335 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: while she was running for office, she was paid by 336 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: this organization to run. They brought a bunch of illegals together. 337 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: They did all of the ground game for the campaign, 338 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: door to door, printed the paperwork, took it out. They 339 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: prided themselves. They even published articles saying, we got this 340 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: woman elected on the backs of illegal aliens because she 341 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: is going to get them drivers' licenses. This woman then 342 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: cheers on the idea of not calling a murderous animal 343 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: and illegal while her own state suffers from Chilean gangs 344 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: coming in across the border and attacking people, robbing them, 345 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: attacking them in their own homes. Why do people keep 346 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: electing these people who are willing to put their own 347 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: constituents in terrible danger. 348 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: That's a great question, Tutor. And this is what I 349 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: think most Americans are waking up to now, because we've 350 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: been asleep at the wheel and we fall. We're lulled 351 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: to sleep by words like we the people that I'm 352 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: disgusted that they would use those three words. 353 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: We the people run by illegal aliens, right, We. 354 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: The people is the opposite of what they are doing. 355 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: We the people as a movement of patriots trying to 356 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: protect God, family, freedom in this country and the American 357 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: way of life. And she's out there abusing these folks 358 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: are abusing it. And then she's crazy. Really, what she's 359 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: doing is aiding and abetting in the trafficking of human 360 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: beings when you take that kind of approach, and you know, look, 361 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: we had a lady that we caught about a year 362 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: ago and she had a baggy full of pills. We 363 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: caught her out in the desert and she had a 364 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: baggy full of pills, like fifty pills, and we said, hey, 365 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: what are these pills? And she says, well, when I 366 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: was going to cross the border, I knew i'd be 367 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: raped multiple times. These are morning after pills. I mean, 368 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: where did we get as a country where we put 369 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: politics in front of people and the left wants to 370 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: pretend like they're doing this humane thing. And I told 371 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: you at the beginning, this is the most inhumane thing. 372 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: Whether it's the lady we pulled out of the mountains 373 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: that the cartels left for dead the other day, she died, 374 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: by the way, she was a dead body we pulled 375 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: out that they left for dead. We go out every day. 376 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: We saved two people yesterday in our helicopter that the 377 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: cartels left for dead. We have the humans or the 378 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: Americans that are dying from fentonyl poisonings and destroying American lives. 379 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Even if they don't die, they're destroying American families and lives. 380 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: We have children being abused, We have children being raped, 381 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: We have children being placed into slavery in this country. 382 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: We have women and men being extorted. We have women 383 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: being raped. We have men being extorted to the point 384 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: where they owe the cartels. They're put into hard labor. Slavery, 385 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: as I would say, has never been more proficient in 386 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: this country, more at its peak than it is now. 387 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: At what part of this is humane? Not to mention 388 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: the Americans who have been completely left in the rear 389 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: view mirror by this administration, and all of our tax 390 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: dollars going to not just soften the blow, but truly 391 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: just really give these people everything they want and need 392 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: to where they don't even come in here and work. 393 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: They're just coming here and collecting our tax dollars, living 394 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: in fancy hotels, having food every day, having all of 395 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: their knee's met, while the rest of us go out 396 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: and bust our butts every day, only to have our 397 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: checks tax and those taxes taken and given into people 398 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: that came into this country illegally. 399 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 400 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. And I think people need to 401 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: understand that what you're talking about when you're talking about 402 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: these people coming in and staying in a fancy hotel 403 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: and they're staying there for months. Some of these people 404 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: have been there for nearly a year, they're getting all 405 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: of that paid for. I mean, imagine all of your 406 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: tax payer dollars are going to fund someone staying in 407 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: a hotel. And oftentimes these hotels are just being completely 408 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: trashed because you know, if there's no personal ownership over 409 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: renting or paying for a room, then you don't seem 410 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: like you need to take care of that room. I'm 411 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: not saying everybody is like that, but there is a 412 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: significant amount of these hotel rooms that are being completely trashed. 413 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: They're getting their own food. Let's go to California, for example, 414 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: you have people getting healthcare. You have a eagle immigrants 415 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: crossing the border immediately getting healthcare. I mean that to 416 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: me is just a dog whistle. Come, come on, come 417 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: and make sure you get everything you need, all of 418 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: your needs taken care of. The most disturbing thing I 419 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: think to me is the fact that people can come 420 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: there and have some sort of a sex change surgery. 421 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: And the reason this is disturbing to me is not 422 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: because I care about whether or not people want to 423 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: change their gender. It's because I think it is a 424 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: great way for people who want to hurt this country 425 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: to change their identity, to do something, and then have 426 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: that paid force that that their face is altered. They 427 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: can go in there and say, oh, I just want 428 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: to look more feminine something. Then they cannot be tracked. 429 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it is so scary the California 430 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: would pay to change the identity of people who can 431 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: come in here and commit crimes. What in the world, 432 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: how did we get here? 433 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what. That's California. First of all, So 434 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: if you're trying to understand California, you're probably the wrong 435 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: person to try to understand it. They're so far left, 436 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: they're so far lost their mind. It's not even funny, Tutor, 437 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: And this is part of it. They give health care 438 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: to illegal aliens, government pain for sex changes is absolutely 439 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: inappropriate in all senses of the in any imagination that 440 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: anybody could have, especially with children. That's no different than 441 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: government pain to baptize people who want to change their 442 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: lives and become Christians. The left would never never ever tolerate, 443 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: nor would I Why because that's not a government, that's 444 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: not a function of government. Funds from taxpayer dollars should 445 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: not be used for those types of things, social ideologies. 446 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: That should not be what we use our tax dollars for. 447 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: And California and. 448 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: You bring that up, you brought up faith, you have 449 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: worked in a church, you've been but this is not 450 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: in the United States. So for people who are going, okay, 451 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: Sheriff Lam, what do you know about being in the Senate? 452 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: How could you possibly deal with these not only national issues, 453 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: but issues on the world stage. Explain a little bit 454 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: about your experience in I mean, you've lived in South America, 455 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: You've lived in some of these areas. Explain to people 456 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: what you've seen, because I think sometimes people get the impression, well, 457 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: you just have a hatred for these people, But no, 458 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: you don't. You've loved them, you've lived with them. 459 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: No. Look, I actually consider myselves more in line with them. 460 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: I spent majority of my life, my formative years and 461 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: other places. I was born and raised as a minority 462 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: in Hawaii. I know it sounds great, but being raised 463 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: as a white kid in Hawaii wasn't exactly the easiest thing. 464 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: You have to learn how to become tough real quick. 465 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: I lived in the Philippines. I understood poverty on a 466 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: whole different level. And we were not wealthy when we 467 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: lived there in the Philippines, so we weren't too far 468 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: above them. I've lived in Panama for many, many, many, 469 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: many many years, and I understand what the Panamanian people 470 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: are and the Latin culture of the Hispanic cultures. I've 471 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: lived in Argentina and literally lived with them for two years. 472 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: Didn't live a high lifestyle, was a missionary, went into 473 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: their homes every day. I understand these folks on a 474 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: deep level, and there's a part of me that is 475 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: is that loves that culture. A big part of me 476 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: loves those cultures, and so for anybody to say that 477 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: is just wrong. I would expect those countries, just like 478 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: I expect mine, to protect their own countries from people 479 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: that shouldn't be there. Look, every time I went into 480 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: those countries. I made sure that I had the appropriate 481 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: visas to be able to be in their country legally 482 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: and to be able to take part of their country. 483 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 2: And I learned Spanish. I am fluent in Spanish. And 484 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: there's anybody who says that I don't understand these things. 485 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm the only candidate who has had this kind of 486 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: life experience, living outside of the United States and understanding 487 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: what it's like to deal with foreign affairs and those 488 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: types of things. I was in Panama when they invaded Panama. 489 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: I was studying to. 490 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Ask you, Yeah, go ahead, let me ask you about that, 491 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: because I think one of our big concerns right now 492 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: is that these countries have been taken over by China. 493 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: The CCP is heavily involved in since I think gosh, 494 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I think it's like from twenty eighteen to now, the 495 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: extensive takeover of China into South America, Central America, buying 496 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: up corporations, taking over, becoming their biggest trading partner. This 497 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: used to be the Western world, and it used to 498 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: be much the United States of America. Now the United 499 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: States of America and corporations here find it easier to 500 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: for some reason build their companies over in China. I 501 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: guess because they like the idea that the dictatorship does 502 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: not allow you to commit crimes. You just immediately get 503 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: killed or go to jail or have your arms cut off. 504 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's just different. I don't know. I can't 505 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: imagine deciding to open a business over in China, where 506 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: I know the human rights offenses are so great and 507 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: so extreme. But instead we just left these countries wide 508 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: open to Chinese influence, and they have come in and 509 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: they have taken over. They've made South and Central America 510 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: totally dependent on them, more so than even on the 511 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: United States. How much of a national security disaster is 512 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: it to have China so close, but also to have 513 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: China acquiring so much more land. I mean, China needs 514 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: that because they're in danger of not being able to 515 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: feed their population. They don't have farmland, they don't have 516 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: the ability to feed the people that they have. But 517 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: they also want to amass more resources so that they 518 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: can just take over energy, so that they can take 519 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: over economically, so that they can rule. They want to 520 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: be the superpower. How dangerous is it that we are 521 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: not there in a bigger way. 522 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's very dangerous I saw long ago in Panama 523 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: when Jimmy Carter started with him when he gave back 524 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: the Panama Canal, and that came to fruition in the 525 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: mid nineties, Right around two thousand, the Americans completely left. 526 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: They just left all of the military bases, all the housing, 527 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,239 Speaker 2: all stuff that we had built over decades, All the 528 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: tax dollars we used to build infrastructure there was just 529 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: turned over. Unfortunately, the Chinese came in and in over 530 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: the last two decades in Panama have really sunk their 531 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: their their teeth into that economy, into the canal, which 532 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: is a very strategic piece, which was why we controlled 533 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: it in the first place. So that's a problem I 534 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: saw in Afghanistan. Now you see that Joe Biden's failure 535 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: of an exit out of there costings American lives, costing 536 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: a lot of of Afghanist Afghani lives. They left, and 537 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: now China swooped in and taking control of a lot 538 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: of the resources, very valuable resources for products that we 539 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: use on a daily basis here in America. They took 540 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: advantage of that and swooped in and got picked up 541 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: a lot of that. And this is what's happening all 542 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: over and we're just I don't know. I don't know 543 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: what our government's doing. I mean, look, I can't do 544 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: much worse. I can't do any worse than these people 545 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: are doing on foreign affairs and on all that stuff. Frankly, 546 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: I think we need some common sense people back in Washington, DC, 547 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: because the people that supposedly know all of these things 548 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: and have experience in foreign affairs are absolutely driving our 549 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: country into the ground and putting us in last place. 550 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Our friends don't respect us, and our enemies don't fear 551 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: us anymore, and that's a real problem. 552 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I think there's so many, so few people that can 553 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: actually talk about this. I mean, when we talked about Afghanistan, 554 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: everybody's like, end endless wars and get out. I think 555 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: that there's a misunderstanding of what having soldiers on the 556 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: ground to make sure that the United States is protected, 557 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: like you said, to make sure that China isn't coming 558 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: in and taking over. I think it's hard for people 559 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: to explain that to the American people without them saying, 560 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: you just want to force our soldiers to be over there. 561 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: But Panama, Afghanistan, I mean, even the Middle East, what 562 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: are we doing with Israel right now, all of these things, 563 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: the strategy behind it is not to just pour money 564 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: into other countries. It is to protect the United States 565 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: of America. But people seem to forget that you can't 566 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: live in a bubble, that America is not safe unless 567 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: we have a strong presence on the world stage, and 568 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: right now we don't have a strong presence on the 569 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: world stage, whether it is actually on land or just 570 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: our president coming out and being strong. No one thinks 571 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: he's strong. This waffling that he's done on the Middle 572 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: East has been out of absolutely catastrophic, and it's all 573 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: for votes. Things have become so political. I mean, it's 574 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: just like this the moron up in northern Michigan who 575 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: is thankful that we call somebody a undocumented person instead 576 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: of illegal when they've gone out and murdered people. I mean, 577 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, what in the world is happening. The people 578 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: have become so political, they're just complete idiots, and that's 579 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: where we are right now. So I have to say 580 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate having someone that has has spent time in 581 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: other areas of the world who understands it. To me, 582 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: it's so important that people have at least either worked 583 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: or spent time in other parts of the world to 584 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: have a not only an understanding, but a grace and 585 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: respect for other cultures and an understanding of what we 586 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: can provide and when we need to step away. But 587 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: there are so few people right now that are out 588 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: there running for office that can say that they have 589 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: that experience. And I appreciate that from you. Before we 590 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: let you go today, can you just tell people if 591 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: they want to give to you, if they want to 592 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: learn more about you, where they can go. What's your website? 593 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and tutor, thank you for the kind words. Yes, 594 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: I'm running for the US Senate here in Arizona, and 595 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: if you don't think that matters to you out in 596 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: Michigan or wherever you are, you're wrong because as a senator, 597 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: I vote for things that affect all fifty states. So 598 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: you really do want to have good senators from here, Arizona, 599 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: from whatever state, because we want to make sure that 600 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: the people are in Washington, DC are voting for good 601 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: things that affect all of us as the fifty states. 602 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: So please come support me at shrifflam dot com. You 603 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: can donate a few dollars. You can if you live 604 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: in Arizona. You can sign my petition, which that'll be 605 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 2: for the next few weeks, and then we'll turn in 606 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: our posit petitions. We're going to be on the ballot. 607 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: We're doing well. The media doesn't like to talk about us, 608 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: but that's okay. They're not dropping bombs on as either, 609 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: and what we're doing on the ground is a lot 610 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: of great grassroots work and it's going great and we'll 611 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: be We're going to take this Senate back here at Arizona. 612 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: So please come support us on social media. It's American 613 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: Sheriff on Instagram, Shafflam on Facebook, Shafflam one on Twitter, 614 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: So please come check us out on all those places. 615 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: And thank you so much for having me on, Tuitor. 616 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: I love I mean, I can talk about these things 617 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: all day long, so I appreciate you having me on. 618 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you coming on, and I'm glad we 619 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: got to talk about a wide range of topics because 620 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: I think it's important. I think what you're running for 621 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: us it's so hard to get out who you really 622 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: are and have people really understand what you've done. So 623 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on and spending a half an 624 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: hour with us. To tell everybody exactly why you're doing this, 625 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: and I just I know how hard it is to 626 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: run for office. 627 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: So thank you well, thank you, and God bless you, 628 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: and God bless your family. 629 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you all for joining us on 630 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go 631 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: to Tutor disonpodcast dot com. 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