1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Lamar in the pocket, that's caught in a lot of 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: traffic by Nelsonmandalor to the end zone. Summersault touchdown play o' 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Clockett won to get it off and into the end zone. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Those edwards to the touchdown because the Crofts used to replating. 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Here's Burrow shaking his head after trying to throw on 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the sideline. You could tell there's a problem. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Oh, there is a problem for the Cincinnati Bengals. 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, problem for us, the football fans watching 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: Thursday night football because we are excited for a showdown 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: between two AFC North Titans. But Burrow's wrist injury, which 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: knocked him out late in the first half, kind of 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: put the curtains on this game. A thirty four to 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: twenty win for the Ravens, who pretty much cruise after 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: the touchdown that put them ahead. That kind of coincided 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: with Burrow on the sideline trying to get some throws off. 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: You can't even grip the football, and you know you 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: saw it on his face. A lot of frustration and concern. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Dan Hans is here around the NFL with Greg Rosenthal. 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: The Ravens moved to eight and three. Greg, they not 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: only further kind of entrenched themselves a top football's most 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: competitive division, they might have put Cincinnati into a potential 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: death spiral here, especially as we await word on Burrow's health. 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're taping this right after the show, so by 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: the time you guys listen to this, maybe they will 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: be more report reporting out. Maybe there'll be more news. 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye on it. I think we got 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 4: to just start with Burrow and the Bengals. I want 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: to get to the Ravens. We always want to get 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: to the winning team who was a big game. 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: But this is one of the. 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: Biggest stories in the league this year. He shows up 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: to Baltimore coming off the plane because of this local 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: footage that was shown in Cincinnat with some sort of 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: what looks like a brace on his wrist, And even 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: the Bengals tweeted out like, oh look at Joe Swag, 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: you know, walking in on Twitter that showed he had 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: something on his wrist before the game. And then they 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: deleted it and and Twitter went crazy about it. And 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: the brace thing from the local news actually was a 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: day before. And I saw a clip from Chris Long 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: who went through all the all twenty two from the 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: week before looking for the play and he thinks he 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: found it. Actually, like the second play of the game 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: against the Texans, and Burrow came off the field shaking 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 4: his wrist and he obviously played through it last week, 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: but there was something. So he came into the game 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: apparently with something despite not being on the injury report, 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: and yet Dan he played magnificent. I think early in 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: this game, the touchdown drive that they had to me 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: was Pete Burrow picking out mismatches almost just like perfect, 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: like knowing exactly what throws to make and beating a 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: really good Ray's pass rush. So when he walked off 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 4: the field and it happened in the second quarter when 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: they went up ten to seven after that drive, the 55 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: last thing you thought was he was injured. And then 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: you see him that he got hurt on that last 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: play when he threw the touchdown on the touchdown play, 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: and that preceded what Al said on the sideline, and 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: you just wonder if this is it for this team. 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: There's no way to know about how long he's going 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: to be out for the injuries. But even if he's 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: not out, let's just say where they are right now. 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: They're five and five. They're zero to three in the division, 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: they're one in five in the conference. They do not 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: have a game in the rest of their schedule Dan 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: against a team with a losing record, So it's all 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: five hundred and above moving forward. And it just took 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: the total error out of what felt like was going 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: to be one of the defining, like most exciting games 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: of the season. 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: I should have known this is going to happen when 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: I locked up Cincinnati. My cursed lock season continues and 73 00:03:59,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Greg blessed. 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: Every every week something breaks your way, and this time 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: it was Joe Burrow's risk. Congratulations. 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: Bengals head coach Zach Taylor told reports reporters after the 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: game that they believe that Burrow has sprained right risk. 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: Rapaport rap Sheet reported that he suffered the injury after 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: he fell on it early in the game. Another other 80 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: big injury news on the other side, John Harborough set 81 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: after the game that Mark Andrews the season is over. 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: The star tight end has an ankle injury that will 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: end his season. So that's a huge setback for the Ravens. 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: Obviously kind of a crushing setback. So you know and 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: guess what this is this is Thursday night football, unfortunately. 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: And then there's all these reasons why Thursday night football 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: is a great thing for the NFL and it's making 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: gobs of money. 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: But the injuries are a part of it. 90 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: And you know they're going to go into spin mode 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: here Cincinnati about Burrow's wrist injury because they are in 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: line to to be facing league discipline if they did 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: not put him on the injury report. 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: And they're getting it, and listen like this, they're getting it. 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 4: They're getting fined. 96 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: Let's be real here, flash, let's be let's be real here. 97 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: We're as a league. 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: They're they're suspending players for weeks and hundreds of thousands 99 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: of dollars and fines for unpip paid suspensions for gambling 100 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: on other sports. And if there are teams that are 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: hiding a superstar quarterback's wrist injury going to Thursday night football, 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: how is that not just as bad when you look 103 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: in from the context of gambling. Here's some sound from 104 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh on the Mark Andrews injury, which again is 105 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: a huge one for Baltimore. 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 5: I do it one injury announcement to make. Unfortunately, on 107 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 5: the negative side, Mark Andrews has a very serious ankle injury. 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 5: It looks like a season ending injury. So our prayers 109 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 5: will be with Mark. He nobody cares more about the 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: team and UH and being there for the guys and 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: Mark Andrews. So it's gonna be hard for him, but 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 5: we're gonna be there for him all the way. 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: What a bummer, Greg that they had a stat and 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: they did pretty well in general moving the ball today. 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to take take anything away from Baltimore 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: in terms of their offense, which which played well in 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: this game, but there's a lot of data points of 118 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: the difference in this offense when Lamar and Andrews are 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: not together. They came into the league together. In terms 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: of chemistry between a QB and tight end, there are 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: a few that possess as much as these guys. So 122 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: to take Andrews out of the mix, even with the 123 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: emergence of like an Odell Beckham and a Keaton Mitchell, 124 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: these guys, they're not the same without him. 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: No, I for some reason wasn't ready for that news 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: at all. I know they ruled him out quickly, but 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe high ankle sprain. He gets back. 128 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: You know in a handful of weeks they play Isaiah 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: likely a ton of snaps tonight. He ended up having 130 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: two targets, did not have a catch. That is a 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: huge loss. The Bengals lost Cam Taylor Britt, their number 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: one cornerback, who saved a touchdown on a deep throw 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: maybe Lamar's best throw the night. It was one of 134 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: those beauties where if you're watching on the next gen 135 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: Stet's prime vision, it's just a thing of beauty. I mean, 136 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: that was a dart was gonna be a touchdown debateman 137 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: that Taylor Britt did a great job catching up on 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: and not gonna wait. He's easily their best cornerback. They 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: also lost bj Hill, but Andrews, Yeah, take some juice 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: out of their offense and is gonna put even more 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: onto what for the most part did well tonight, which 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: was the explosive passing game. I do want to get 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: back to Burrow later, but while we're talking about it, 144 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: I think the Ravens came into tonight thinking, let's attack 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: this Bengals secondary deep. That's how they've been losing lately. 146 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: Let's actually not focus on the running game early in 147 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: this game. Let's pass to throw up the run it 148 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: and it was kind of an uneven first half. They 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: had some quick drives, but they also had two drives 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: with a bunch of explosive plays, and Odell Beckham ends 151 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: up with four for one sixteen. He's on the Amazon 152 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Prime set right now, so I don't think the shoulder 153 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: injury at the end of the game was a big deal. 154 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: He has two explosive plays. Say Flowers has a thirty 155 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: three yarder on the first drive, Agilar gets that weird 156 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: pass that was a thirty seven yarder, but there was 157 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: also the Flowers seventy yard play that was overturned by 158 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: a bogus penalty, And so this has been an explosive 159 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: passing game and the Bengals defense has given up more 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: explosive plays than any team in the NFL. It's kind 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: of hard to believe. And that includes runs. And they 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: gave up a run of twenty six to Edwards and 163 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: twenty one to Mitchell, so they are having major problems. 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: This matchup has been bad for them, and I know 165 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: there was injuries in both of the games, but the 166 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: Ravens under Harbaugh have done very well against the Zach 167 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: Taylor Bengals and especially offensively. Look, it would have been 168 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: tough for the Bengals to win this game even with Brow. 169 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: I just would have liked to see it. 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And by the way, that was Odell's first one 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: hundred yard games since the twenty twenty one NFC title game, 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: So he really has been coming on and that's that's 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: good for them, especially with Andrews exiting the picture. You're 174 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just bummed because the Cincinnati's winning. They're 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: winning the game, and it's looking like, uh, we're going 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: to have a great back and forth affair. 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: When Burrow go. 178 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Heads to the sideline, I don't know if I missed 179 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: it because I was a little bit behind, so I 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: was fast forwarding through commercials, and I when Burrow hits 181 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 3: mixing in the flat for the touchdown, you kind of 182 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: see Burrow in the background, like almost doubling over. And 183 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 3: I don't know if they ever went back to that replay, 184 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: and if if they didn't, that's a bad job by Amazon. Okay, 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: so I don't bury them then, but like so, and 186 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: then you know, they cut to the sidelines and you 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: see him unable to grip the ball, and the thing 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: is and we're not doctors. You know, our mothers, both 189 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: debbies would wish that we were, but we're not. When 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: and there's a sprain involved, that could be a lot 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: of things, including a ligament damage. So there's gonna be 192 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: MRIs and he is far from out of the woods. 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: We just don't know like what exactly is going on. 194 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: And like I said, rap Sheet reported what I'm sure 195 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: the Bengals are putting out there that he the injury 196 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: happened tonight when he went and landed awkwardly on the wrist. 197 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: But there's going to be a lot of there's going 198 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: to be a lot of zapruder film studying of the 199 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: actual situation. 200 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: And it should also be known that Zach Taylor. 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: Also feigned ignorance when he was asked after the game 202 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: about the video that you're referencing that the social team 203 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: put out. 204 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: What it will cover up is on Greg this is. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: Wild Well one wanted to be clear, was from a 206 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: local news organization, one of their local TV stations, so 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: they had it. They didn't take it down, you know, 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: they didn't need to take it down. They had the footage. 209 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: And I think Chris Long. I watched Chris Long's video 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: and it was pretty compelling. He showed the All twenty 211 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: two and they showed Burro shaking it from last and 212 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 4: the brace is the brace. Now to your point, which 213 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: play did he get it hurt on tonight? He did 214 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: hurt it again tonight, So I don't doubt that he 215 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: re injured something that was already bothering him. And as 216 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: they pointed out, I thought he played well. I'm seeing 217 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: some conspiracy theorists saying like, oh, he was off, his 218 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: accuracy was off even before this. The betters that are angry. 219 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 4: I don't think that's true. I think he was excellent 220 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 4: because I think the Ravens pass rush was winning almost 221 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: every snap the first three drives, and yet they got 222 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: a field goal, a missfield goal attempt, and a touchdown 223 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: and that was mostly because of Burns quick thinking and 224 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 4: brilliant So I think he was playing well, but the 225 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: injury happened. I'm pretty sure on the second to last 226 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: play that he was on the field for it was 227 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 4: a completion to mix In where Clowney hit him to 228 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: the ground after he let go of the ball, and 229 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: it looked like he reinjured it on that one. And 230 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 4: then on a touchdown pass you could see he was 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 4: in a ton of pain after making that pass. He 232 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: fought through it for one more play through the touchdown, 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: and that was it. And you don't want to think 234 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: that this is just their season. And I guess if 235 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: he we're just back to where we were, where we 236 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: won't know, maybe he's gonna play, maybe he won't be 237 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, and we're right back to that, and 238 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 4: so maybe it's not totally over, but we're It's very 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: frustrating that at best we're back to where we were 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: when he was fighting through this other injury and we're 241 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: just gonna be seeing how much it hampers him. And 242 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, I have a sinking feeling it's gonna 243 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: be worse than that. Yeah, this has been It's interesting 244 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: that last year's two teams going into. 245 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: The playoffs that I think a lot of people or 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: there are three obviously with the Chiefs, but the Bills 247 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: and Bengals are We're seen as the big three with 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: the Chiefs in the AFC, and we've documented Buffalo's struggles 249 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: this season all week and now Cincinnati they don't. They 250 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: have some excuses built in that Buffalo doesn't because of 251 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: the quarterback injury situation. 252 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: But there's no way around it. 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a very disappointing team right now, 254 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 3: and yeah, it's gonna take if if he's seriously injured, 255 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: it's over. And you just hate that because I think 256 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: there was another chapter to the Cincinnati season with Burrow 257 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: putting the team on his back. But if he's not 258 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: gonna be healthy, you know, there's no Josh Dobbs on 259 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: this roster that you know, we saw some of Browning 260 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: today that he didn't He didn't inspire much in the 261 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: way of confidence. It's tough environment Browning to enter that game, 262 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: and he did get a garbage time touchdown to Jamar Chase. 263 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: This helps some fantasy people out there, but otherwise, tough situation. 264 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Randy Chevez. Big funk Wow, Okay, I 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: see I exactly as they went to break, Zeuser had 266 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: already hit the fast forward button. It's showing his follow 267 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: through and he's look it looks like he's an agony as. 268 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when they try to throw on the sideline too, 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: he looks so bad. 270 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: And I'm with you. 271 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: When you lose a great quarterback in Burrow's no question 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: Top five, I've it hurts the league in general. I 273 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: was growing increasingly dubious that this Bengals team had enough 274 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: to make the super Bowl. It doesn't mean they wouldn't 275 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: win a playoff game, doesn't mean they wouldn't be in 276 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: the mix and in some great games and in some shootouts. 277 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: But this defense, like Chadobi, a woozie who was a 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: great player for them before he got hurt again last year, 279 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: has not been the same. He was benched in this 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: game and has given up a ton of big plays. 281 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: That the defense is giving up just a ton of 282 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: big plays week after week. And when I watched Burrow 283 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: against a good pass rush, their pass protection stinks. It's 284 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: like old times, And so that's a lot to overcome. 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: Burrow would overcome a lot. They're running the ball pretty well, 286 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: they can run block well like they It's not like 287 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: they were berefed of talent, but they they seemed a 288 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: little more problematic as a team around Burrow this season 289 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 4: to me than they had been in the past. I 290 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: think you showed I think you saw that tonight. I 291 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: mean they gave up you know, thirty what did they 292 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: give up thirty four points? I know Burrow's injury is 293 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: like part of that that they couldn't hold onto the ball. Now, 294 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: that took the wind out of the sales for that team. 295 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: You could tell I don't want to make excuses. I 296 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: hear you, but they were given that they give up. 297 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: They gave up three big plays before that too, and 298 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Browning was losing the game too when they came. 299 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: I'm with you, like it's a bit of an excuse, 300 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: but that's not the excuse for last week. My point 301 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: is they played two big time offenses back to back weeks, 302 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: big time quarterbacks, and they got fileted by both of them. 303 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: All right, Let's see one other thing. The same player 304 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: involved on the Mark Andrews tackle, who's the it was 305 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: a linebacker for Cincinnati, was also the same linebacker that 306 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: tackled Lamar near the sideline and sent him to the 307 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: sidelines briefly with an ankle injury. But it was the 308 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Andrews tackle that's and Mike Garfolo's tweeting about it right now. 309 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: The hip drop tack, which is when you kind of 310 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: it's almost like you kind of saddle up on the 311 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: guy and pull him down. 312 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: That creates awkward angles. 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: That's what happened on the Andrews play, John Harbaugh said, 314 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: was it even necessary in that situation? So that has 315 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: been a point of discussion that tackle with a competition committee. 316 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: And now that a star player like Andrews is lost 317 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: for the season in primetime, sometimes that pushes those type 318 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: of things over the finish line. So keep an eye 319 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: on that and when it comes time for the competition 320 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: committee and the and the owners to vote on safety 321 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: changes ahead of next season, anything else. Greg on this game, 322 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: I am I'm furious. This is the first time I'm 323 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: mad about a lock because not only did I feel 324 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: good about the lock off, Greg, I was like one 325 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: of those things you get to like root along with 326 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow in primetime in a huge division game. So 327 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: to have that all kind of swiped away, it all, 328 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: it all feels like a like an ugly Thursday night, 329 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: and the Andrews injury just compounds that. 330 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you already heard that. You're double you're double banging 331 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: him there, Javis, Well, I guess he just brought it. 332 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: It's all right, you know that is Uh, the funk 333 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: has that right because he's doing a great job for us, 334 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: he absolutely is. 335 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 4: And I I did not enjoy it was Logan Wilson. 336 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: By the way, Logan Wilson, you know, the good, very 337 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 4: good you know, Bengals linebacker who got picked him up 338 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: by his britches. No, well, just you know, anytime Logan 339 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: Wilson comes up for the rest of his career, I'm 340 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: going to think of the holding call he had in 341 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: the end zone that you know, potentially he's flipped the 342 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. And I was thinking about that night tonight, 343 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: and I think about that with all these teams that 344 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: get close that it it just in that you think 345 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: about it with the Bills in that game against the Chiefs, 346 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: It's just it's so hard to get back to that point. 347 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: And I always thought that was kind of a bogus 348 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: Logan Wilson call. It was a bad night for the refs, 349 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: by the way. I mean, there was a lot going 350 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: on in this game that the holding call on Beckham 351 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: that negated a seventy yard z A Flowers touchdown was 352 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: one of the worst calls of the season. And then 353 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 4: there was about two or three PI calls against the Bengals, 354 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: So it went both ways. Is that extended that Ravens 355 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 4: touchdown drive at the end of the I. 356 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: Mean the second one they put the game away essentially 357 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: after Burrow was out. A total phantom call, right, and 358 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: there's nothing we could say about it because we're not 359 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: going to ever go back to instant replays. But that is, like, 360 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a whatever it was, twenty thirty yard 361 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: penalty that that really sets up the knockout punch for 362 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: the Ravens at the end of the half. 363 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: I do want to give a little bit of credit, 364 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: you know, even early in the scheme when Burrow was 365 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: out there, like Kyle Hamilton is making play after play 366 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: after play. He's he's been a pro bowler. He's turned 367 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 4: into a big time player for them. And Brandon Stevens 368 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 4: was opposite Chase all night and even early, Like I know, 369 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: it's tough to evaluate. Once Browning came in, he was 370 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: a little better than I expected, but still look like 371 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: a backup. But they just have guys making plays a Dafeoway, 372 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: they've been hoping to get a pass. Rush has had 373 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: a sack and three straight games Clowney made bouque like 374 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: they were winning early. I liked my lock going into 375 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: the night too, because I really would pull believe that 376 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: the Ravens are a step above the Bengals. We won't 377 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: get to find out, and so I take no solace 378 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: in it. But there are a lot of pieces here. 379 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 4: I think now with the Bells and the Bengals kind 380 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: of falling off, you really do see it opening up. 381 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: As with them, they're eight and three now as the favorite, 382 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: you know, behind Kansas City or with Kansas City, but 383 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: they're kind of separating themselves a little bit. 384 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: AFC is crazy. I really wish. I don't know if 385 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: I havem on record here, so I will. 386 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: I really wish Aaron Rodgers didn't tear as Achilles tendon 387 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: on the fourth. 388 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: Play of the season. 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: By the way, hat trick for Logan Wilson. I was 390 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: not aware of this funk. Thanks for the heads up. 391 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: The Bengals linebacker also had the hard tackle on Odell 392 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Beckham late in the game that sent him to the 393 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: sideline wincing in pain. So in one night, Logan Wilson 394 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: injured Odell Beckham, Mark Andrews, and Lamar Jackson. 395 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: That's I don't know, man, I don't know. How how 396 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: do you sleep well at night? Logan? 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I know, the the Andrews tackle 398 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: was a little dicey, but it's legal street legal, but 399 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: that's kind of a destructive Thursday and a losing effort 400 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: that the. 401 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: The Lamar one was, you know, on the sideline. I 402 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: don't know if it was a late hit, but it 403 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: was on the sideline. Lamar Lamar had ice on his ankle, 404 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: was heating it the rest of the game, but he 405 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: did did play through it. He looked a little less 406 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: nimble than he normally does, even though he still ran 407 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: for was he. 408 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: Even wearing cleats tonight? Like what was going on with 409 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: him on the. 410 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: He kept slipping and falling. So Toke and Mitchell a 411 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: weird game. 412 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. It really liked it. 413 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: The crowd was amazing, I thought, and it impacted the 414 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: game early all those delay of games and the false start. 415 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: They just seemed just felt like like it was the 416 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: loudest crowd of the night. And then there was a 417 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 4: next gen stats stat I wanted to point out to you, Dan. 418 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: You're just like you were just like talking over my 419 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: disappointment with the game by how great the crowd was. 420 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: That's good, Oh, I like this was the most memorable 421 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: crowd performance maybe of the season. There was one in Seattle. 422 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: They were just so loud. It was crazy. You don't 423 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 4: think they were so loud, and they were. They were 424 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: really messing with the Bengals, including when Burrow was out there. 425 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: They couldn't get a play on time. And then there's 426 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 4: false start, there were delayed games, there were timeouts. I'm 427 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 4: just saying they came out hot. 428 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: It was a good crowd. Ravens, whatever you guys call yourselves, 429 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 3: the flock, you definitely did bring it. Love that rivalry. 430 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: Here's here's just a stat with no real connection to 431 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: this game, but I found it amazing, and as the 432 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: owner of the Kicker Club, I thought you would too. 433 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: I didn't even know there was a field goals over 434 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: expected stat. Did you know this? 435 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: No? 436 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: I didn't know there was. This is the real thing. 437 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 438 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: Tucker going into tonight had forty five point eight field 439 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: goals over expected since he entered the league. That is double, 440 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 4: nearly double any other kicker in the NFL since twenty sixteen. 441 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: Double. 442 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: He's more dominant compared to his competition at his position 443 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: than anyone maybe in any sport. You know, I get 444 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: any position, it's nearly double. That's pretty it's pretty cood. 445 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: I know he has the the record, and you know, 446 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: the sixty six yard and everything. 447 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: But the thing that I've always loved the most about 448 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: Tucker is just how automatic he is at the part 449 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: of the field where most kickers are basically coin flip 450 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: like his his accuracy, you know, from forty eight to 451 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: fifty two is just otherworldly. I know he has a 452 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: weird it's a kind of a weird funky stat this 453 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: year that he's one of five I believe on fifty 454 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: yarders this year, But there's a couple of blocks in there. 455 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: Like he's he's a joy to watch, and he hasn't 456 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: really had his big moment yet this season. He's just 457 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 3: chugging along, but it's coming. He's gonna win a couple 458 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: of games for them. 459 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: Before let's say, let's get him in a it could 460 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: be his first chance to play in like an AFC 461 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: championship type of moment we have. We haven't seeing that 462 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: out of justin Tucker's correct. 463 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: Well, your quarterback's going to need to step up in 464 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: the crucible, my friend. 465 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: I know we're often on the TV be and I 466 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: know you gotta you gotta catch a bird. You're going 467 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: to New York tomorrow. 468 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: I got an early early flight, Yes, with my two sons. 469 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: But I did find it notable Carissa Thompson. After that appearance, 470 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: she had on on part in My Take where she 471 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 4: admitted to sometimes making up interviews with coaches. I did 472 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: find it interesting. She still broadcasts the game here with Amazon. 473 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: I do wonder if the game had been one day 474 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: later with all the reaction that that's happened. And I 475 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: think a lot of it, you know, well said is 476 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: kind of the whole thing. Was mystifying that that she 477 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: would have said that, that she would have done that. 478 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if that would have been different. So 479 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: it's just as someone, as you know, we watched this 480 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: stuff closely. It's a it's an interesting sports media one 481 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: to watch, oh for sure. 482 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: And she's getting absolutely killed. So I'm not going to 483 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: pile on. 484 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: But I will say this because I as a somebody 485 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: who grew up listening to Howard Stern. Sometimes you'll see 486 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: a guest go on a show like that or in 487 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: this case PFT and Big Cat the Barstool Podcast, and 488 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: because they know that the type of what the audience 489 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: is or what the vibe of the show is, they 490 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: try to be extra a reverend or edgy or kind 491 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: of try to present themselves in a light that makes 492 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: them seem cool, and you end up just kind of 493 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: sticking your foot in your mouth. And I think that's 494 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: what happened with Thompson. Apparently she said she'd said something 495 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: like that in the past, but that podcast has a 496 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: huge audience, and she was asking for trouble and now. 497 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: She's got it. 498 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the lack of judgment to say it is. I'm 499 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: not saying it's worse than doing it in the first place, 500 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: but it's telling. 501 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: Very fair. 502 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: All right, Uh, real quick, last word, Lamar Jackson talking 503 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: about that's sore ankle. 504 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: He has to be all right. He didn't miss a snap. 505 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: But let's hear what Lamar had to say. But I'm good. 506 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: We need to start talking about his ankle. 507 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm good. 508 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: You see I just walked up here. I'm good. We 509 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: ain't gonna talk noney to his existence, you know, speaking 510 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: one it to his sistors. 511 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm good. Lamar's been so happy this year. There really 512 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: is a difference among him with this contract and everything. 513 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: Like he it is press conferences. It's just been like 514 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: he's loving life. 515 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, he kind of already talks like an eighty 516 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: three year old grandfather. 517 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what he's gonna sound like when 518 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: he actually is old, but uh yeah, I think he 519 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: should know. The reason people are asking is because like 520 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: the last two years the Ravens had were seven and 521 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: three also now they're eight and three, and he got 522 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: hurt in their entire season, literally went up in flames. 523 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: So obviously the beat reporters is gonna be a little 524 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: keyed in on that, uh situation. 525 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: But he looked good. He sounds optimistic that he won't 526 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: miss any time anything else. 527 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: That's it. 528 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: Let's go, buddy, all right. 529 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: I will see you via the magic of the Internet 530 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: on Sunday on the other side of the country. Until then, everybody, 531 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: check out NFL Plus where we had our latest streamatorium episode, 532 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: and check out the week eleventh preview with Nick Shook, 533 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll all be back together. 534 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: Mark Ceciler included on Sunday. Till then, he the call