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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no, guests. Your presences

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Speaker 1: presents enough, and I already had too much stuff. So

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Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. You're

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Speaker 2: here to listen to the podcast. What's going on? I

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Speaker 2: think it's September, we're in fall, we're headed towards fall.

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Speaker 2: What are some things you could be thinking about right now?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could be toying with the idea of your

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Speaker 2: Halloween costume or well, actually, at this point, I think

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Speaker 2: you should probably be in serious planning stages. You've got

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Speaker 2: maybe a month and a half or so to go

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Speaker 2: way behind. So that's just something I want to kind

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Speaker 2: of spark for you, something could think about while you

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Speaker 2: maybe to distract you while you're listening to the rest

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Speaker 2: of this podcast. Now your thoughts are racing. You can't

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Speaker 2: pay attention. That's fine. We're going to have a good time.

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Speaker 2: Everything's okay, and I'm so excited about our guest. She's

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Speaker 2: so wonderful, so funny. Paula Poundstone, Paula, welcome to I

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Speaker 2: said no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much, Bridget, it's so nice to

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Speaker 3: be with you.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind, Paula.

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Speaker 3: Oh my heavens, I you know, survival, survival specifically perhaps

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Speaker 3: in the area of mental health.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's getting harder and harder. Right, of course, it's

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Speaker 2: getting more and more confusing, and it's hard to count

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Speaker 3: It's an uncertain time, Bridger.

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Speaker 2: It's uncertain and then you know, it's a real roller

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Speaker 3: It's hard to figure out what to say anymore. The

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Speaker 3: someday they will have I don't know that it'll be me,

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Speaker 3: but someday there'll be another generation that comes to them

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Speaker 3: and says, like what. I think that's exactly how they'll

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Speaker 3: put what, like what what? Because it's like it's a

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Speaker 3: slow slide. It's like as if we're watching Mount Rushmore

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Speaker 3: melt up. For it's you know, more important. You can

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Speaker 3: no longer count on even two hands how many things

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Speaker 3: of global importance have gone wrong. If it had been

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Speaker 3: put in any kind of a movie or novel, it

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Speaker 3: that happen? And now I'm now we're actually watching how

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? The Batman movies. I feel like the best

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Speaker 2: Batman movies are when there's maybe one or two villains.

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Speaker 2: The worst ones are when they're you know, they've got

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Speaker 2: what's I mean? How is your summer in general?

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Speaker 1: Ben?

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Speaker 2: I feel like we got about two weeks of what

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Speaker 3: Did you have two full weeks of normal hopefulness?

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Speaker 3: All right, I have to I did go on a vacation.

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Speaker 3: I went to Massachusetts where you used to always go

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing that I have done traditionally and returned

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Speaker 3: I haven't. But you know what I encountered on Twitter

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that shark was I don't think

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Speaker 2: Where does Jaws take place? Is that an East coast? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, just trying to have their summer and suddenly everyone's

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Speaker 2: With you know, oh yeah, over and over right.

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Speaker 3: And the vaccines and you signed this thing everyone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chief Brody, that's who he was, Chief Brody.

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Speaker 2: Now are you vaccinated?

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Speaker 3: I am beautiful, and you know what, I hate needles.

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Speaker 2: Will they stop showing that, Paula.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't tell anybody they should get the shot. You

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Speaker 3: And that's all to be well. I don't even want

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Speaker 3: But like when you sit, you know afterwards they want

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Speaker 2: Look even if even if you don't take Paula's little trick,

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Speaker 2: Look I think I felt a little sleepy, and that's

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know anybody. In fact, you know the

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Speaker 3: Surprised because it's not like I really find it all

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually just started selling it because people that

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Speaker 2: I feel like you you've kind of earned the right

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Speaker 2: But you've got this, You've got at least one skill

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Speaker 3: It is? You know, I just couldn't come on Bridger

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Speaker 2: to drink? I think that's enough. Could you have enjoyed

441
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: a gift card?

442
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Maybe a little something like, oh, here is a card

443
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: from starbuck. Yeah, So anyways, so I did get you

444
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: a gift and it's not even I did. It was

445
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: really from the heart for your eye, because it's not

446
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: even like me to think of those kinds of niceties.

447
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you're of all as a person,

448
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: and I think my podcast is kind of to think.

449
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just give me the credit here.

450
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: Credit where credits due?

451
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you. Oh well, now that I've gotten my credit,

452
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: should I open the gifts? Oh? Go ahead, all right.

453
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: It's in a little brown box here, it's addressed to me,

454
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: it's got my address. We won't be saying that on

455
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: the air, but let me get my scissor and open

456
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: this up. You know, you're not supposed to cut towards you,

457
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: but I keep doing that towards me.

458
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt anybody else.

459
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I'm getting this open. This is good, a

460
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: good taping job on this box. So this is gonna

461
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: take me a minute. And I need everyone's patience and

462
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: everyone's kindness, and I just need everyone to calm down. Okay,

463
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: we're getting it open.

464
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes when I go to Saint John's Hospital the emergency

465
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 3: room and I'm gushing blood from somewhere around my waist,

466
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: They'll say, did you did you open another package towards yourself?

467
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: And I see yeah, I did.

468
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Paula, I've opened it up here and okay,

469
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: so it's in a little uh like an earth balance

470
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: uh it. It's like a butter spread butter container, yeah

471
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: right right, kind of a vegan butter with a rubber

472
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: band around it and has.

473
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: Are the gift. I mean, feel free to use them

474
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: and enjoy them. But neither of those things, the fake

475
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: butter container nor the rubber band are the gift.

476
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to open it up. It has four

477
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: holes in the top, so I'm wondering, what's if all

478
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: fall is this worms?

479
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: No, it's warm waste. I've given you some of the

480
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: famous pound Stone worm castings.

481
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: This is a by oh hazard.

482
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you do you have Do you

483
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: have houseplants or plants outside?

484
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: I've got both?

485
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: All right? This is important. Which is they've done, you know,

486
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: like experiments they found if you're using like a soil

487
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: mixture with some worm castings, if you use if it's

488
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: ten percent worm castings, it will improve the growth of

489
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: your plant. If it's twenty percent worm castings, it will

490
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: improve the growth of your plant even more substantially. But

491
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: if it's forty it will negatively effect.

492
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: No, so what have you sent me?

493
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: It's not a mixture that's pure worm waste.

494
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: So I just need to I need to use this

495
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: sparingly exactly.

496
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: What I was trying to say. Yeah, yeah, just like

497
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: around the top. Say, I use it on some succulents

498
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: and and and then when I put it on before

499
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: I water them, and then that makes when you water

500
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: that it goes down.

501
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: All right, So what are we talking about for? Like,

502
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: let's let's narrow this down to like one succulent. Do

503
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: I want to put like a tea spoon on there?

504
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

505
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's like a little houseplanty kind right, does

506
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: the young people enjoy Yes, that'll probably be good. I'm

507
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: telling you you're gonna grow the audrey too.

508
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh. I would love to grow an audrey too. I'd

509
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: love to be swallowed whole by a venus fly trap.

510
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna you're gonna feed it warm waste and

511
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: then pour some water on it, and it's gonna say

512
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 3: thank you. I may Uh this could be the gateway

513
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: drug for you.

514
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love a fertilizer gateway drug. I have.

515
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: My plants are in varying stages of health. I've I've

516
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: gotten better at taking care of my house plants. My

517
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: vegetable garden is here and there. You know, it's uh,

518
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: it's hard to tell, but this I think could really

519
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: benefit me in a huge way.

520
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: It's going to change your life. I'm telling you, uh,

521
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: and you know you'll be calling me day and night.

522
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Can you get more worm wasted? I can? I can?

523
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: I So when you're selling your worm wasist, how are like,

524
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: how are people finding you?

525
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: Oh?

526
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: You know what, I've only I just sold my first

527
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: batch A harvested.

528
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: Approximately two gallons, wow.

529
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: And I advertised it on my own podcast, which is

530
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: called Nobody Listens to Paula pound Stone. And you know,

531
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: me and my assistant Wendell, we had talked about, you know,

532
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: how we were going to put it on the website

533
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: and how we had to figure out how much per ouncer.

534
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: It was just so complicated in the in the PayPal

535
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: and the houdah and the hada, and I'm just like,

536
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going to do any of that.

537
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: Here's what I gotta do. So I looked up on

538
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: the internet. I found out what you know what commercial

539
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: bags of this cell war I priced comparably so I

540
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: sold my about two gallons, as I just said on

541
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: my on my podcast, I said, hey, I have my

542
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: first starvice of warm waste. It's about two gallons. I'll

543
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: charge thirty five dollars and whatever the shipping is and

544
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: if you want to do it right to me at

545
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: my website. And somebody did and wow. So it was

546
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: so easy that way, it didn't have to mess around

547
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: with all this other stuff. I will say that we

548
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: shipped it off to them, and I can't I'm not

549
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: certain that we remembered to get payment, but I know

550
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: we will.

551
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: Well, thirty five dollars is owed to you, well.

552
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: Plus the twenty one ninety four that is shipping because

553
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: it was going to Connecticut. But keep it in mind,

554
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: this is my friend pointed out. This is celebrity worm waste.

555
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: Right, high quality regular worm waste.

556
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: And you know what some worms did go into accidentally.

557
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: They're just the babies are so small that when you

558
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: go to sift they end up so there might be

559
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: a worm or tool.

560
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh my hopes. So that sounds like a huge bonus.

561
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: It's a stone way. Yeah, Now are you branding the

562
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: worm wasist? Is this pound stone worm waste as well, you.

563
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: Know I was gonna have I was gonna start a

564
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: company called pollen Poundstone is a poop head, just for.

565
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: The alliteration, right, right, But I'm not sure.

566
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: I even have to go that far, which I mean

567
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: I will at some point, but these are uncertain times,

568
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 3: so I don't know that it's really the time to

569
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: invest in you know, a lot of packaging and.

570
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Right yeah, well, I mean the worm waste has now

571
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: been mentioned on your podcast and now on mine. It

572
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: feels like the pr is read the pr machine is

573
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: going this thing we're headed at. We're just months away

574
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: from the holidays. People are looking for gifts, they're looking

575
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: for these what am I going to give it? And

576
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: they look to the Poundstone worm waste and I think

577
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: that that could be the big hit of the season.

578
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: You know what. I hadn't thought about that, but you're

579
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: absolutely right. I might have to have you over in

580
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: my marketing department.

581
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: Look, I'm always looking for new ways to you know,

582
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: increase these our bank account numbers. I feel like this

583
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: is the one that's going to show you to the moon. Yeah.

584
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm so bad at marketing that the idea of selling

585
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: something as a Christmas gift never even occurred to me.

586
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: So you really you have a gift in this way.

587
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've got so many My talents are myriad,

588
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: and I'm just such a skillful person. So you bring

589
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: on your worm waste to my podcast. I'm looking for

590
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: ways to get it to expand the market.

591
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: I live in a teeny little house, but I don't

592
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: see this. I don't know how I'm going to be

593
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: able to stay here.

594
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: We'll start packing up.

595
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to move to like a worm ranch

596
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: with a dude. A bunk house. We have to have

597
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: a bunk house.

598
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: What is a bunk house. I don't know what a

599
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: bunk house is.

600
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: A bunk house is where the ranch hands stay.

601
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well that's you learn. If we're learning all

602
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: sorts of things this episode about it.

603
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: Did you read let's see, what's the one the one

604
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: George and the John Steinbeck book?

605
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: Uh, Wrath?

606
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: No, not Grapes of.

607
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: Wrath East of Eden.

608
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: No, not that the other one with the two guys

609
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: who are always dreaming of having a rabbits and they and.

610
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: They work on a ranch rabbit brothers.

611
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think it's radit ready. Damn. I have

612
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: a lot of recovery call problems. I think I've had

613
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: that problem for a long time. But I have to

614
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: say that I firmly believe as a result of the

615
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: stress caused by everything in the last couple of years,

616
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 3: not the least of which is COVID, my word recall is.

617
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: Just unbelieve you're telling me my word recall. I mean,

618
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: it's worrisome. I'm like, what is happening to my brain?

619
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: How I can't remember? There's got to be something to

620
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: help improve that, right, Is there some little game I

621
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: can play on my phone that will help my word recall?

622
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: You know, supposedly there was at one time, I think

623
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: called Luminosity. I think it was called Yeah, somebody told

624
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: me about it and I put it on my phone,

625
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: and it was supposed to be these memory games. It

626
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: was supposed to sharpen your memory.

627
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Right.

628
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: I forgot to use it.

629
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh, you're kidding.

630
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: You would think that because a lot of people that

631
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: I talked to say they are having that problem with

632
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: word recall and with your memories. You would think that

633
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: this would put a dent in the game show industry

634
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: like that. You would really notice the competition lagging. You

635
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: know that there would be clues like grapes blank and

636
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: people are just you know, okay rhymes with bath ding

637
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: ming pass? Is it passed? N Yeah. You would think

638
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: that it would show up in places like that, but

639
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: I haven't heard of it.

640
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: Of Mice and men is what it's called.

641
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: Thank you. Did you come up with that on your

642
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: own or did you google it or something like that.

643
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not revealing. I'm not revealing that we

644
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: have a producer named Donna Lees who has you know, access,

645
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: I could have also googled it. But look, we all

646
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: know of mice and men. We just you and I

647
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: were sitting here, were engaged in this conversation. No one

648
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: can expect us to know the entire Steinbeck catalog off

649
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: off the top of our heads.

650
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: I think of mice and Men should be a fairly

651
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: easy grab. So let me get this straight. Because they

652
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: at least did it right away, I mean, just no

653
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: time would buy where you you were really not. You

654
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: were not flapping like a fish on a duck for

655
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: very long before she's like, oh, it's a minice man?

656
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: Is that? Because like if she hadn't done that, when

657
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: this when the show, like when you're finished recording the show.

658
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: You were going to be right up in her face

659
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: like an anti vaxxer, screaming, take off that mask. Why

660
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: why didn't you tell me of mice and men?

661
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: Why my My relationship with Anali's on Lise and I.

662
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: It's extremely contentious. They are constantly in my face. I'm

663
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: constantly in their face, and you know the wheels are

664
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: going to come off at some point.

665
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I noticed it.

666
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: There's a lot of anger there. There's simmering resentment, a

667
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: lot of friction.

668
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely, I know.

669
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: And you know eventually it's going to destroy this podcast

670
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: and probably both of us.

671
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: You guys have probably benefited from not being able to

672
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: be in a studio.

673
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: Ohh when we get back to the studio, it's going

674
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: to be a fistfight almost immediately. Yeah, yeah, you know,

675
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: the violence is just waiting to happen between us.

676
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 3: Honly has actually been working out following online videos of

677
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: self defense techniques, and at first I thought it was silly,

678
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: but now I know that I see you and I

679
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: hear about the kind of rancor that is facing practically

680
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: bringing I send no gifts down.

681
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: It's a you know, it's in the trades the you know,

682
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: rumors are all over the place. People know what's going on,

683
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: and we've done our best to hide it, but we

684
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: might as well just put it out there now an

685
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: Lisa and I are going to destroy each other. Yeah,

686
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: and that's fine, that's you know, we've seen that happen

687
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: in podcasts after podcast I'm not unique. Eventually the producer

688
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: and the host. You know, it ends in violence, and

689
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. Yeah.

690
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's the way of the world.

691
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: Look, I want to play a game with you. Oh

692
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: do you want to play a game called gift or

693
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: a curse or a game called Gift Master? And I'll

694
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: tell you how to We're going to play it once

695
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: we decide.

696
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh so I just choose based on nothing? Okay, No,

697
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 4: not based on nothing, based on two very descriptive, evocative titles.

698
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: All right, I'll take a gift or a curse.

699
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay. I need a number between one and ten from you.

700
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: I just told you I have word recall problems, and

701
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: now you're making me wants a plank number between one

702
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 3: and how about how about four? No one ever chooses?

703
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. No one chooses for your people?

704
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Actually numbers three, seven, That sort of thing, but I'm

705
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: to go with four.

706
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Four is an underappreciated number and I like that you

707
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: chose that. Okay, I have to do some light calculating

708
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: to get the game pieces we'll be playing with. So

709
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: right now, I want you to recommend something, promote something,

710
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. I'll be right back. You have

711
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: the microphone. You're stepping away too, I'm stepping away.

712
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: Paula.

713
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: You have got to put on your big worm pants

714
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: and you do what you want to do.

715
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: Wow, there's a lot of pressure. Well, I will take

716
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: this moment to recommend to people that they not that

717
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: they leave your podcast ever, but that with whatever additional

718
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: time they have, they sample. Nobody listens to Paula Poundstone,

719
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: which is also very very fun. If it's a matter

720
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: of exchanging one for the other, simply don't do it.

721
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: But I do think that you might enjoy Nobody listens

722
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 3: to Paula Poundstone. By the way, it's my cat.

723
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful. Your cat has entered the picture. You

724
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: did a wonderful little promotion there, that was perfect. Yeah,

725
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: people should go listen to your podcast, and you know,

726
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: just enjoy the wonderful things Paula has done. For everybody.

727
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: Oh so much. Why did you see the other day? No, no,

728
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: didn't do anything that day.

729
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh cut it out.

730
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: Okay, wait it was Wednesday. No, no, didn't do anything Wednesday.

731
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: All right, this is how the game work. This is

732
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: how the game works. I'm going to name three things.

733
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me if there are a gift or

734
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: a curse, and why there are correct answers. I have

735
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: to be so clear with you. You can fail this game.

736
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: You can lose miserably, and then it kind of ruins

737
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: your evening, and then it'll your ruined evening will bleed

738
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: into tomorrow, and tomorrow will probably be ruined for you,

739
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: and then it could, you know, just erode the rest

740
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: of your life. So just be careful.

741
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, I tell you something. As far as things

742
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: that erode the rest of my life go, it's gonna

743
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: have some competition.

744
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, first up, this is a listener's suggestion. Someone

745
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: named Lizzie has written in and suggested gift or a curse.

746
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: Chili cookoffs?

747
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Oh curse?

748
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: And why?

749
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh maybe I changed my mind. Maybe they're a gift.

750
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: People are happy at a chili cookoff, so I guess

751
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: that's good. People like it makes somebody. Somebody wins and

752
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: and they feel good about their chili, and the other people, well,

753
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 3: they become bitter. But okay, I'll say it was I'll

754
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: say it's a.

755
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: Gift, great job. I mean you all you said curse initially,

756
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, Paula is gonna, you know, start

757
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: off on such a wrong foot. But I have I,

758
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: of course, think of chili cookoff is a gift. I

759
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever been to a chili cook off,

760
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: but the general concept to me seems very fun. I

761
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: love to eat chili. I love to eat, to sample

762
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: and to I love to judge people. I love to

763
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: watch people win and lose. It's fun for everyone. I

764
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to be bringing my own

765
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: chili to a cookoff, but why not. I think it's

766
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: a good time.

767
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: I did go to a chili cookoff one time. I

768
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: was at the Texas State Fair in Dallas, and I

769
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: was there like covering it for some show, and as

770
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: part of what I attended, I did attend a chili

771
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: cook off. I didn't think of that until until just

772
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: before I reversed my answer, and then I remembered that overall,

773
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: it was it was a happy experience.

774
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like everybody goes into a chili cook

775
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: off with a good attitude. I mean, I have no

776
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: complaints about a chili cook off. I mean maybe once

777
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: I actually go to one, I'll have a whole list

778
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: of complaints.

779
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: I do think it's going to give you a lot

780
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: more data.

781
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to investigate, But good job, you've got

782
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: one for one so far. Next s up, gift or

783
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: a curse? Punctuality?

784
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: Oh, gift?

785
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: And why uh.

786
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, because planes don't wait. That's one reason right there.

787
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: Something I've had to actually articulate to my adult children. Yeah,

788
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: the plane doesn't wait. I think it's a matter of expectations.

789
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes if you say we'll do it at two o'clock

790
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: and then you're not doing it at two o'clock, it

791
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: throws people off. It disappoints people, It creates anxiety. And yeah,

792
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: this something about dealing with somebody that is punctual that

793
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: takes off a layer of stress.

794
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: PAULA fantastic, Absolutely wonderful. I'm on the same page. I

795
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: think punctuality is an absolute gift. May be my only

796
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: skill being able to be to places on time. The

797
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: one thing I can say I can do pretty well

798
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: is be there when I said I'm going to be there,

799
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: and I when somebody else can do that as well, fantastic.

800
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: It's more and more rare. Oh yeah, which is frustrating

801
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: a pest. I like to do what I say i'll do,

802
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: And being on time is sort of like, you know,

803
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: the low hanging fruit of commit.

804
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: Right, right, It's a little gift you can give the

805
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: person that you've made this commitment to you show up,

806
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, showing up it is kind of a power move.

807
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: Or you know, being ten to fifteen minutes late. I

808
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: think we need to reverse it. How about being on

809
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: time is the power move? Look, I'm a considerate person, absolutely.

810
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: I actually go to a VET that doesn't make appointments.

811
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: What yeah, and see you end up? You know, you

812
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: sit in the waiting room, or when you could sit

813
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: in the waiting room. Now you can't even go in, right,

814
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: but when you did, you know, when you could you

815
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: sit in the waiting room maybe for you know, however,

816
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: if you go in a busy time, too bad for you.

817
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: It's a busy time and you wait. But when I

818
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: went to vets that had appointments, they were always late,

819
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: and so you just were kind of annoyed by the

820
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 3: time you got in. You know, So this thing where

821
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: you don't even they don't even say they do, they

822
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: don't promise a certain time. I kind of like that.

823
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: You just show up with your animal and hope that

824
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: they can see you. Yeah, that seems like chaos to me.

825
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: No, it really isn't. You know. There might be I

826
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: don't know, there might be four or five other people

827
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: in front of you or whatever. And then there's times

828
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: where I've gone in and I was the only person there.

829
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Wow, that's fascinating.

830
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of. I mean I never studied up

831
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: to figure out what are the what are the heavy

832
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: traffic times, and what are the low traffic times. I

833
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: really don't know. But I don't think I ever waited

834
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: any longer with no appointment than I did with an appointment.

835
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

836
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: I think doctors should do the same thing. Doctors drive

837
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: me crazy not coming in. You know, they do that

838
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: thing where a nurse comes out watching the examining room

839
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: and they tell you to put on some gown, which

840
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: is totally unnecessary. But basically what it does is it

841
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: makes you too self conscious to complain. Now they leave

842
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: you sitting there for forty five minutes and nobody wants

843
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: to hold the flaps together in the back and walk

844
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: down the hall and say what are you doing? And

845
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: then they sasha in like you know, oh what are

846
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: you doing here? Like it's silly? So uh yeah, I'm

847
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: very into this punctuality thing.

848
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Okay, so you're getting two out of two so far,

849
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: very good this. Uh let's see what how you handle

850
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: this third one. Another listener's suggestion, someone named n J.

851
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: The letters n J has written in and suggested. And

852
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna have to explain this because I had

853
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: to look this up. Press and seal rap which is

854
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: kind of like saran wrap or plastic rap. I guess

855
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: it kind of takes the place of plastic bags. It's

856
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: like a plastic that you has essentially edible glue on

857
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: it that you can kind of wrap around food and

858
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 2: it kind of sticks to the food rather than putting

859
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: it in a bag. Does that make sense still? I mean,

860
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: even as I explain it to you, it does not

861
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: make that much sense to me.

862
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: You actually can seal it because the thing with saranne

863
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: wrapped is that or it's something of that nature. Not

864
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: apparently this press and seal thing. But the thing with

865
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: saran wrap is you can easily get it to stick

866
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: to itself unless you wrap it around food.

867
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: Right, So what are your thoughts there? Do you think

868
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: it's a gift or a curse? Well, this press and seal.

869
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: If it's biodegradable, then it's a gift, right, But if

870
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: it's more plastic coming into our world, then I think

871
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: we still need to find another.

872
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Solution, right, And I mean, from what I can imagine,

873
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: it's probably not biodegradable. Hard to say, but I'm just

874
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: going to say, do we re the what problem could

875
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: this possibly be solving? And you haven't answered, but you

876
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: do need to say gift or a curse?

877
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: Well, I would say curse. Then I would say curse.

878
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I use I reuse zip block bags, And

879
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: you're right, there's nothing that this could do that a

880
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: zip block bag couldn't couldn't do, and with a zip

881
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: hop bag, I can reuse it. Right.

882
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this seems like something that's truly a one and

883
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: done type situation. Paula, you got I mean, I think

884
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 2: you're the third person on this podcast to win the game.

885
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: You got three out of three Wow.

886
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that just goes to show preparation, preparation,

887
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 3: night studying, whether things were gifts are curses all my long.

888
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: I mean, if I seem a little spacey to you,

889
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: that's why all.

890
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

891
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: You did it? I think the cling, whatever the hell

892
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: we're talking about the press and seal wrap, I don't.

893
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm not buying that. I'm not sticking that to my food.

894
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't need another plastic thing floating around my house.

895
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: I've got those, you know. Let's reuse our ziploc bags

896
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: or get some other reusable thing.

897
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: Well you'll notice that, uh, your gift, the worm castings,

898
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: I send it in.

899
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a perfect reusable container exactly.

900
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: I my plastic containers that they come from other products

901
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: to use in the you know, to use for my

902
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: worm castings, because I don't want to have have manufactured

903
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: more plastic containers. So hopefully it'll get a few more uses.

904
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Well, look, it's time to answer some listener questions.

905
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: This is called I said no emails people write into

906
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Look, I mean,

907
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: all I can say is that there are people out

908
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: there that need a lot of help. They need my

909
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: help in particular, and now they need your help. Would

910
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: you help me answer a question?

911
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, despite the fact that you specifically said no email.

912
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: No one respects anything any of my wishes. My life

913
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: is just a living hell, you know, to just one

914
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: day have someone follow a rule or a suggestion or

915
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: what you know, stay within a boundary I create. I

916
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: don't even know what I would do with myself at

917
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: that point. You know, it's beyond a dream for me

918
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: for someone to respect my wishes. So I'm just living

919
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: in this reality that I've kind of created. And what

920
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: can you say. Let's look at this thing, it says

921
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: Bridger and esteemed guests. So that's a nice little compliment

922
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: for you right off the top.

923
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much.

924
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: So.

925
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: They didn't know it was going to be me, but.

926
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: I'll take it anyways, Well, who knows this person could be,

927
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: you know, have some little mirror into the future. They're

928
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: able to peer into the future and see who my

929
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: guests are going to be. Maybe they've got maybe they're

930
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: in touch with our booker. You never know. There's leaks.

931
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: This podcast has leakers everywhere. I'm sure on Aalisea's leaking

932
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: information all the time, so they could have known that

933
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: we're coming up. Okay, so it says Bridger and esteemed guest,

934
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: my boyfriend of eight plus years and I are done.

935
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: So uh oh. He's making a move to the East

936
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: Coast and I'm staying in the home we bought ooh

937
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: and share, which is approximately three thousand miles away from

938
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: his new home. He's taking all of his stuff most

939
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: of the house, including pans, knives, clothes, and furniture, and

940
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: should be moving on from Utah to Virginia in about

941
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 2: two months. I would like to get him a gift

942
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: that says, I'm not sorry I met you. I'm not

943
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: sorry I will not see you. What let me read

944
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: this one again. I'm not sorry I met you. I'm

945
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: not sorry I will not see you again.

946
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: See So, she's kind sorry she met him, but on

947
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: the other hand, not upset about never seeing right.

948
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Interesting, So about him he loves cooking, hiking, mushroom hunting,

949
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: ice cream, and pornography. Okay, about us, we have no kids,

950
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: a cat, and mostly just stare at the TV together.

951
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: What's an appropriate gift to celebrate eight years when my

952
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: last boyfriend and I broke up. I drew him a

953
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: comic book of our relationship. Thank you, Betty. This is

954
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: an interesting this is the question has gone directions I

955
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: could not have possibly imagined. This is a real weird

956
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: gift giving situation for Betty and her now ex who's

957
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: moved across the country with what seems to be all

958
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: of their pans, knives, clothes, and furniture.

959
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it never occurred to me because I don't have relationships.

960
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: It never occurred to me that it was appropriate to

961
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: give a breaking up gift.

962
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: Right, I mean I do. I guess we've kind of

963
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: as a society, moved into or at least some people

964
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: have moved into a new world of these breakups that

965
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: are a little bit not as dramatic, not as anger related.

966
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they just things that come to a close.

967
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: And now he's off to Virginia with all of their stuff,

968
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: and so she wants to give him something. I mean,

969
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: it sounds like he's taking everything, and I mean, maybe

970
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: he should be giving her something.

971
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: You know, I may I may be coming from a

972
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 3: place of bias when I say this, but warm castings

973
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: make a wonderful breakup gift, and you know, he may

974
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: want to grow some plants in Virginia and you know,

975
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: and then still be able to remember in a positive

976
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: w the girlfriend just right, strength of the growth from

977
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: the plant. I whatever. Again, I don't think I have

978
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: clean hands in this.

979
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: But that's not a bad idea. Look, I mean, she

980
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: could give him just a bunch of worm wasist, and

981
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: I like, you know, at the end of the relationship,

982
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a little bit of unhappiness here

983
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: that towards him. She gives him maybe seventy pounds of

984
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: worm waste, he suddenly has to deal with getting that

985
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 2: across the country.

986
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: I had something to remember her by.

987
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: Look, they've got a cat. I hope she's holding onto

988
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 2: the cat. Maybe you get a painting of the cat

989
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: to send.

990
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you could do that.

991
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: But also, Betty, it's been eight years. What do you

992
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like I don't know. I

993
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: really I don't know what to tell you. He's to me,

994
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: you should not be getting If somebody takes all of

995
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: my knives and pans, they're not getting another thing out

996
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: of me.

997
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: Well, Betty, did mention a George pornography?

998
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

999
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: You know, maybe one last little film. You know, not

1000
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: my place to say Betty.

1001
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean if the if

1002
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: pornography is on the table, Betty, you've got your answer.

1003
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: Just some sort of video content, maybe a nice a

1004
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: nice goodbye.

1005
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: Or even just like you know how you have Okay,

1006
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: And the people at Wait Wait Don't tell me one

1007
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: time gave me this little plastic button that you push,

1008
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: and when you push the button, there's a recording on it,

1009
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: and in fact, it's a recording of Peter Segel, who's

1010
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: the host on the radio show Wait Weit Don't tell Me.

1011
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: It's a recording of Peter Sagal doing a turkey gobble,

1012
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: which made me laughed so hard when I heard him

1013
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: do it. And so they made me this little recording.

1014
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: You push, it goes whats right, So maybe Betty just

1015
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: get one of those little devices and record some heavy breathing.

1016
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: Ah, not a bad idea, you know it's there, you.

1017
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: Go, Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's the bow

1018
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: of a tree, not the whole.

1019
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: Tree, right, you don't want to give the whole tree

1020
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: the little button. He can take that to the office

1021
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: with him. He's got that on the airplane on the

1022
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: way to Virginia. It's the perfect gift. We should all

1023
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: have one of these buttons. And uh so, Betty, you've

1024
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: got your answer and move on from the relationship. Everything's

1025
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: going to be fine, Paula. We did an excellent job.

1026
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: We gave Betty all of these suggestions. You won the game.

1027
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: You've kind of you know, this is really You've done

1028
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: it all here. You've launched a worm business.

1029
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: I feel like the Grand Marshal of the of the

1030
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: I said no gifts parade.

1031
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: I think it's time we have and I said no

1032
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: gifts parade. I need to start figuring out how to

1033
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: produce that next so everyone look forward to that. Well, Paula,

1034
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: thank you so much. I'm excited to get my plants

1035
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 2: moving here with this worm wasist. I mean, I hope

1036
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: that I don't kill I mean, if I destroy all

1037
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 2: my plants, you're going to be hearing from me. Yeah.

1038
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: Well again, not more than twenty percent.

1039
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Not more than twenty percent, okay, right right, okay, I'm

1040
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: going to do that. I've had a wonderful time with

1041
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: you here.

1042
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: It's been so nice talking with you. And sorry I

1043
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: sent a gift, by the way, I know you said

1044
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: no gifts.

1045
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: I just I just quid it's nice to hear an

1046
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: apology at the end of the podcast and listener, this

1047
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: is the end of the podcast. Just a reminder that

1048
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: you can listen to this podcast on Apples, Stitcher, Amazon Music,

1049
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm glad you were

1050
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: able to be here. Hopefully you'll tune in next week.

1051
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: Maybe we can continue this relationship as the host and listener.

1052
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 2: Maybe not. It's really up to you. I just put

1053
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: this out there and you get to do your own thing,

1054
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: and the relationship feels a little lopsided in that way.

1055
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it, But what am I

1056
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: going to do? Have a wonderful day, goodbye. I said

1057
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and

1058
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Analysea Nelson, and the theme

1059
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

1060
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's

1061
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1062
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. You have to see this Gifts Listen

1063
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me,

1064
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: and why not leave a review while you're there. It's

1065
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: really the least you could do considering everything I do

1066
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show,

1067
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: go to mideral dot com slash ads.

1068
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: And I invited you hear gonna man myself perfectly clear.

1069
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come

1070
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no guests, your presences

1071
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: presents enough. I'm already too much stuff. So how do

1072
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: you dare to surbey me?