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Speaker 1: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 1: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that
Speaker 1: our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Today, you'll hear three
Speaker 1: new accounts of near death experiences. They all share a
Speaker 1: common bond of either seeing or feeling their deceased loved
Speaker 1: ones when they make that transition. I'm always fascinated by
Speaker 1: near death experiences. If you remember, six months ago, back
Speaker 1: on episode one fifty seven, I spoke with the director
Speaker 1: and the producer of the big movie After Death. It
Speaker 1: was in movie theaters. It was great on the big screen.
Speaker 1: It gave me chills how many experiences were featured in
Speaker 1: the movie, and not only that they were verifiable near
Speaker 1: death experiences. The film is now streaming. You can find
Speaker 1: After Death on Amazon, Prime, YouTube, Apple TV, and others.
Speaker 1: Before we go to our first story, I'm really happy
Speaker 1: about something that I want to share with you. You
Speaker 1: may have heard a couple episodes ago that I had
Speaker 1: entered a story about my mom in a contest. While
Speaker 1: that story became a chapter of a book. And although
Speaker 1: the book is just a couple of weeks old, it's
Speaker 1: already hit number seven on Amazon out of thirty eight
Speaker 1: million books. It's being shared all over television. It's called
Speaker 1: Love Mom by doctor Nicole Sapphire. The book is empowering
Speaker 1: and one of the biggest things I want to do
Speaker 1: is when you believe in the reality of the afterlife,
Speaker 1: you live a much more powerful life. One of my
Speaker 1: direction you don't take things as seriously all the time.
Speaker 1: There's forgiveness and so much more. And this book has
Speaker 1: beautiful stories that empower. And here's one little secret. The
Speaker 1: title of my book, We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery
Speaker 1: of life after death, is included in the chapter about
Speaker 1: my Mom. It's happened in the past that people have
Speaker 1: asked Siri on their phone for some news and an
Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife comes on. It's happened
Speaker 1: with people who have a smart TV that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, one of my Sunday Gathering episodes are playing.
Speaker 1: I think our loved ones in spirit direct us to
Speaker 1: things that can help with healing. So I have every
Speaker 1: finger and toe cross that out of the hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of people that will read the story about my
Speaker 1: Mom Marian in the Love Mom book, that those grieving
Speaker 1: will see that book title and not only read my book,
Speaker 1: but come join us in our Shades of the Afterlife
Speaker 1: family and ultimately get some much needed support through their loss,
Speaker 1: through their grieving and know that their loved ones are
Speaker 1: still alive and that they'll see them again. So thank
Speaker 1: you for letting me share that the book is titled
Speaker 1: Love Mom by doctor Nicole Sapphire, and my mom's chapter
Speaker 1: is number ten, and I can tell you I have
Speaker 1: one happy mother, as she had no idea I was
Speaker 1: entering my story about her in this contest. If you're
Speaker 1: looking for a great birthday present, anniversary gift, Mother's Day gift,
Speaker 1: or holiday gift, or just a gift that's said I
Speaker 1: love you. Love Mom is sold wherever you buy books.
Speaker 1: So really, thank you for letting me share that. It's
Speaker 1: a big deal to me. Okay, let's hear our first story.
Speaker 1: This is the story of mister John Carter in his
Speaker 1: words told by me. The year was twenty twenty, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a very good year for a lot of
Speaker 1: people due to COVID, but it definitely wasn't a good
Speaker 1: year for me. In fact, I collapsed in my home
Speaker 1: from sepsis poisoning. And when I collapsed, I wasn't found
Speaker 1: right away. When they finally did, I was rushed to
Speaker 1: the hospital and I died on the emergency table. I
Speaker 1: know this as I was watching the whole experience from
Speaker 1: the ceiling. I was looking down and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: no big deal, I must be dead. I wasn't upset.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was very much at peace. The doctors
Speaker 1: and the nurses were running around my body. One nurse
Speaker 1: was putting a needle into my arm. The other one
Speaker 1: put something over my face and was squeezing a bulb
Speaker 1: type thing, and the doctor said clear. Then he hit
Speaker 1: me with those pads on my chest. I remember initially
Speaker 1: shooting back into my body, and I could feel my
Speaker 1: soul just being sucked right back into the body, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, boom, I was back on
Speaker 1: the ceiling again. This time I started traveling through this
Speaker 1: long tube that maybe was twenty feet wide and twenty
Speaker 1: feet tall. I'm not quite sure, but it was spherical
Speaker 1: in shape, and on the walls was my life. And
Speaker 1: as I'm slowly passing through this tube, it was like
Speaker 1: technicolor on the walls, like a movie of all the
Speaker 1: happy things that occurred in my life. I saw a
Speaker 1: year after year and experience after experience, being in childhood,
Speaker 1: been teenage, years, young, adulthood, and so forth until my
Speaker 1: present age of sixty one. All this time I'm traveling
Speaker 1: towards this bright light. Soon the tunnel ends and a
Speaker 1: veil opens, and I realize I'm spiritually sick. I was
Speaker 1: thirsty for some meaning and something greater in my life.
Speaker 1: On Earth, I was lying on the ground and someone
Speaker 1: was holding me in their arms. I looked up and
Speaker 1: it was Jesus Christ. I actually freaked out because I
Speaker 1: never thought i'd see him. Then I looked at the
Speaker 1: sky and it was a completely different color blue than
Speaker 1: anything I've ever seen before. We don't have that color
Speaker 1: blue here on Earth. It was absolutely gorgeous. Jesus had
Speaker 1: a wooden spoon and dipped it down into an old
Speaker 1: wooden bucket. He gave me water to drink and said,
Speaker 1: in the name of the Father. The water was refreshing,
Speaker 1: and it flowed down my throat, some over my head,
Speaker 1: down my face, down into my soul completely. All I
Speaker 1: could feel was love, And as I looked into his eyes,
Speaker 1: I could see so much love and compassion and kindness
Speaker 1: and generosity. It moved me to my core. My heart
Speaker 1: grew with love. I felt like my heart grew fifty
Speaker 1: times its normal size. And Jesus helped me to my feet,
Speaker 1: and in front of me were gorgeous rolling hills with
Speaker 1: beautiful flowers and plants, again, all seeming so alive with
Speaker 1: colors I've never seen before. Jesus turned my head, and
Speaker 1: then I saw a huge crowd of people, probably, I
Speaker 1: don't know, ten thousand people in this field. In the
Speaker 1: front of the group were relatives of mine who had passed.
Speaker 1: They were all there. I got a chance to see
Speaker 1: my mom and my dad, and my aunts and my uncles.
Speaker 1: But before I could say hello to them, immediately to
Speaker 1: my left, I saw a huge angel. His wings were
Speaker 1: just so white and pure. He had beautiful blonde hair.
Speaker 1: He had an armored chest plate and armor anklets over
Speaker 1: his ankles, and he had a sword on his left side.
Speaker 1: And he smiled to me, and I said, Jesus, my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful angel. Who is that And he said,
Speaker 1: that's Michael. He's my archangel. He is the one who
Speaker 1: brought you here. John. And I said, Jesus, I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm worthy to be here. I was a pretty
Speaker 1: bad sinner on earth. I did things that I know
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be proud of. Jesus smiled at me with
Speaker 1: that loving smile in those eyes of his and he said, John,
Speaker 1: the first shall be the last, and the last shall
Speaker 1: be first. I remember thinking what does that mean? Then
Speaker 1: he said, John, and my father house. There are many mansions.
Speaker 1: There's a place for you, your family, all of your
Speaker 1: friends and their family as well. I felt very happy,
Speaker 1: and then I got a chance to meet Saint Francis
Speaker 1: of Assissi. I also got to meet Padre Pio, who
Speaker 1: gave me a big hug, but I didn't know who
Speaker 1: he was. I researched him when I got back, saw
Speaker 1: his picture and said, oh my gosh, that's the guy
Speaker 1: I met in heaven. Jesus finally led me to the
Speaker 1: crowd and I hugged them all. First, it was my
Speaker 1: mom and dad.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was just so happy to see them. My mom
Speaker 1: was so happy to see me too, and she gave
Speaker 1: me the biggest hug, and my dad too. Then I
Speaker 1: saw my niece, who had died of a diabetic coma
Speaker 1: when she was just nine years old. She said hi,
Speaker 1: Uncle Johnny and gave me another big hug. Then Jesus
Speaker 1: told me, I want you to know something. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm not very happy right now with the way the
Speaker 1: world is. There's too much hate in the world. I'm
Speaker 1: going to send you back and I want you to
Speaker 1: give a message to people on earth. And he told
Speaker 1: me it may take a while. Even my whole life.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell people to love one another
Speaker 1: and to take care of one another, and to be
Speaker 1: kind to one another, and always love another and look
Speaker 1: out for one another as I love you all. He
Speaker 1: spoke of that same love that a three year old
Speaker 1: child would bring their mother or father, and that they
Speaker 1: would have for the child, innocent love. No matter who
Speaker 1: people are, or what they believe or what they do,
Speaker 1: they are worthy of love. And then I was taken
Speaker 1: aback by the fact that he said, now I'm going
Speaker 1: to send you back. After he told me all this,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, how is this going to work.
Speaker 1: Even though I was confused and overwhelmed, I felt a
Speaker 1: little tired, and I fell asleep in the field. That's
Speaker 1: when I woke up in the intensive care unit. Through
Speaker 1: the glass, I could see my daughter and my son
Speaker 1: looking at me, crying, smiling, and I gave them a
Speaker 1: thumbs up, letting them know that I'll be okay. After
Speaker 1: that experience, I lived my life humbly, and I know
Speaker 1: that it's okay not to be perfect, and that we
Speaker 1: all make mistakes. I wasn't religious before this experience, but
Speaker 1: I know and believe Jesus wants us all to know
Speaker 1: that we are loved very much. But the real message
Speaker 1: is he wants us all to learn to love each other.
Speaker 1: And that experience again is by John Carter. Let's go
Speaker 1: to our first break and then we'll be back with
Speaker 1: another amazing and near death experience. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Speaker 1: am Pironormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. Here is your next near death experience.
Speaker 1: This is told by Vincent Tolman, who had a near
Speaker 1: death experience at the age of twenty five. He was
Speaker 1: found dead in the bathroom of a small restaurant, and
Speaker 1: he had been dead for over a half an hour.
Speaker 1: When the paramedics arrived. They put him in a body
Speaker 1: bag and took him away. Thankfully, a rookie paramedic had
Speaker 1: a feeling to risk his career, break all protocols and
Speaker 1: try to resuscitate Vincent. He started Vincent's heart and Vincent
Speaker 1: was in a coma for three days. Here's Vincent's story.
Speaker 1: I died on the bathroom floor of a Utah dairy
Speaker 1: queen on a cold night in January. My friend and
Speaker 1: I had taken a weight loss supplement that we had
Speaker 1: bought online, but the moment we consumed it, I knew
Speaker 1: that there was something wrong. We rushed to the closest
Speaker 1: restaurant in the hope that some food would make us
Speaker 1: feel better. Instead, I started to feel extremely nauseous, so
Speaker 1: I locked myself in a bathroom cubicle. Suddenly, an ice
Speaker 1: cold chill came over my body, rushing over my thighs
Speaker 1: and into my chest, and then the world began to spin.
Speaker 1: I collapsed, and the next thing I knew, I was
Speaker 1: looking down at myself from above. This world felt like
Speaker 1: it had no ceiling, and as I watched, calmly, paramedics
Speaker 1: rushed into the bathroom and worked on my body. I
Speaker 1: describe it as the body because I didn't recognize myself
Speaker 1: at first. The person I saw didn't look like me.
Speaker 1: His face was bright purple and had specks of yellow
Speaker 1: in it. It looked like a fake dead body. I
Speaker 1: watched his Emergency services tried to resuscitate the man, but
Speaker 1: shortly after they stopped and gave up. They zipped him
Speaker 1: up in a bright yellow body bag and carried him
Speaker 1: into the back of an ambulance. I kept following the
Speaker 1: man as the ambulance drove off. About forty five minutes
Speaker 1: into the journey to the hospital, a medic who was
Speaker 1: on his first week of the job, decided to try
Speaker 1: to feel for a pulse one more time. After several
Speaker 1: minutes of checking and rechecking, the medics said he felt
Speaker 1: a faint pulse on my leg. He jumped into action
Speaker 1: and started feeding oxygen into my lungs and hooked up
Speaker 1: a defibrillator. There were no results after the first shock wave,
Speaker 1: but after the second round he got one heartbeat, and
Speaker 1: after that another until he finally got a steady heartbeat.
Speaker 1: It was faint, but it was steady, and it was
Speaker 1: enough that it was sustaining life. When they wheeled the
Speaker 1: body into the hospital, it started seizing and vomiting. In
Speaker 1: an effort to restrain the arms and legs, they strapped
Speaker 1: them all on a bed. Suddenly, I felt someone strapping
Speaker 1: my left arm and it hit me the body was,
Speaker 1: in fact my own. It felt so gut wrenching. How
Speaker 1: could I have been watching my own death this whole time.
Speaker 1: I was in a coma for three days, officially declared
Speaker 1: brain dead by the doctors. They told my family that
Speaker 1: I had little chance of survival. But in those three days,
Speaker 1: I believe I traveled to the other side. I first
Speaker 1: felt warmth starting to come from behind me, warming my back,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I could feel how
Speaker 1: important I was, and I could feel how loved I was.
Speaker 1: There was nothing I could do to make myself more
Speaker 1: important or less important. I started seeing all of the
Speaker 1: good things I ever did. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: really good things I had done that I had forgotten about.
Speaker 1: There were times where I didn't know I was doing good,
Speaker 1: but I was doing good. So I got to see
Speaker 1: there was far more good than there was bad, and
Speaker 1: I started to feel that I was worth salvaging. And
Speaker 1: that's when I realized that this love was coming from
Speaker 1: the direction behind me. So I turned around and I
Speaker 1: saw this man there, this amazing man, just dressed in white.
Speaker 1: And the first thought I had was this is God.
Speaker 1: And he laughed and said, no, I'm not God. I'm
Speaker 1: just your guide. I'm here to help you go wherever
Speaker 1: you want to go. And that's when we began our journey.
Speaker 1: So he went ahead and helped me understand I could
Speaker 1: go back to my body or I could go anywhere
Speaker 1: in the universe. I felt this profound love coming from him,
Speaker 1: and as I felt that love, I knew that was
Speaker 1: something I really needed. It was something I didn't have
Speaker 1: in my life. So I asked him where's this energy
Speaker 1: coming from? And he explained that that was the energy
Speaker 1: of home. So I proceeded to say, Hey, let's go home.
Speaker 1: I want to go home. This life on earth was
Speaker 1: a life of abuse and trauma, and this love felt
Speaker 1: healing to me. My guide said I was already home
Speaker 1: and there was no place to go. Then he introduced
Speaker 1: himself as Drake. Drake helped me understand that the most
Speaker 1: important thing in this life is being authentic, and I
Speaker 1: needed to find out who I authentically was. He helped
Speaker 1: me see that in my life there were different versions
Speaker 1: of me. One version of who I'd be with my
Speaker 1: mom and dad, another version of who I'd be with
Speaker 1: my friends, and another version of who I would be
Speaker 1: going to work. He helped me understand that I could
Speaker 1: stitch together a core of who I was between all
Speaker 1: of these situations, and that was my true authentic self.
Speaker 1: Drake said, we can all grow the authentic aspects of
Speaker 1: who we are and that gets us ready to go
Speaker 1: home to heaven, because that's where we're all going. There's
Speaker 1: divine purpose in our life. The earth is like a classroom,
Speaker 1: not a courtroom. No matter what religion teaches you, it's
Speaker 1: always been a classroom. But it's one of the hardest
Speaker 1: schools there is because there's so much resistance and so
Speaker 1: much hardship. You live a lot harder life here on earth,
Speaker 1: but you gain so much more than you do in
Speaker 1: other schools. I also learned that love was so important
Speaker 1: in life. Drake helped me understand that we can't feel
Speaker 1: love or even share love until we can be authentic
Speaker 1: and understand who we are and why we're here. Once
Speaker 1: I put those two things together, I could actually love
Speaker 1: someone else and love myself. He helped me understand that
Speaker 1: our creator loves us all so much that our Creator
Speaker 1: has left us all with an inner voice. It could
Speaker 1: be called the spirit, It could be called intuition, and
Speaker 1: it could be called gut instinct. And if we want to,
Speaker 1: we can turn it on and we can strengthen it. Also.
Speaker 1: He also spoke about technology. Technology can either lift us
Speaker 1: up or tear us down. And if you're not sure
Speaker 1: what it's doing to you, it's probably tearing you down.
Speaker 1: Technology is a form of energy, something that could be
Speaker 1: used for greater good or greater bad. The difference is
Speaker 1: up to us. I personally subscribe to something called the
Speaker 1: hour of Power, where I will make sure whatever I'm
Speaker 1: doing first thing in the morning for thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: the last thing I do for thirty minutes of the
Speaker 1: day is sacred time for me to remember who I am.
Speaker 1: We all are spiritual beings living a physical experience, so
Speaker 1: it's important for us to really set an intention and
Speaker 1: set into motion love in that sacred space. And as
Speaker 1: we do that, we put really good stuff in there.
Speaker 1: We start transforming into a better person, into a great being,
Speaker 1: into the life we want to have, and it puts
Speaker 1: us in the driver's seat and not like. Drake helped
Speaker 1: me understand that this midway point of going to heaven,
Speaker 1: there's a fence in the middle, and the fence that
Speaker 1: slows everyone down is called prejudice. He helped me understand
Speaker 1: that I needed to release all prejudice. And I said, Drake,
Speaker 1: you're talking to the one guy who has no prejudice
Speaker 1: in his life. I really believed that at the time
Speaker 1: I have two Korean sisters. I felt that I was
Speaker 1: the least racist person I knew and the least prejudiced
Speaker 1: person in the whole world. And he lovingly put his
Speaker 1: arm on my shoulder and said, Vinnie, I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that you feel you don't have any prejudice, But how
Speaker 1: do you feel about people who do have prejudices? And
Speaker 1: that's when I said, I'll tell you about prejudiced people.
Speaker 1: They are so closed minded, they're ridiculous. I can't believe
Speaker 1: they choose race or religion or lifestyle and ostracize and
Speaker 1: cut other people out. I told him I hated prejudiced people,
Speaker 1: so they should just let me get into heaven. He
Speaker 1: lovingly showed me that I was joining the prejudice team
Speaker 1: by hating prejudiced people. Then Drake showed me one of
Speaker 1: the most prejudiced people I knew in my life. He
Speaker 1: showed me that other person's path and said, if I
Speaker 1: could walk a mile in their shoes, I would understand
Speaker 1: their feelings and why they are the way they are.
Speaker 1: But I still didn't agree with them in any shape
Speaker 1: or form, but I understood. He taught me that we
Speaker 1: can show love and poor love on the most prejudiced
Speaker 1: people in the world, and we can pull them out.
Speaker 1: There's power in us, there's power in creation. There's power
Speaker 1: in our thoughts that we literally create with our thoughts.
Speaker 1: If we can control our thoughts, we can control our
Speaker 1: creation no matter what life is throwing at us. If
Speaker 1: we can control our thoughts, we can control the outcome.
Speaker 1: The next step towards my progress was to understand that
Speaker 1: if my thoughts could create, how important would it be
Speaker 1: for me to avoid negative influences? Because if I put
Speaker 1: negative influences on my thoughts, I'll start thinking about negative things,
Speaker 1: and so I need to really seek out positive influences
Speaker 1: and experiences and avoid negative ones in all their forms.
Speaker 1: Negative influences can be entertainment, can be the news, they
Speaker 1: can be some friends. There are different apps on our
Speaker 1: phone that increase trauma or increase reactivity to another and
Speaker 1: that was really important for me to understand that as
Speaker 1: we avoid negative influences, we also find that negativity has
Speaker 1: a purpose. Without a bad choice, there is no good choice.
Speaker 1: It's very important that we have the option of the
Speaker 1: negative so that we get to choose, because if we
Speaker 1: remove all bad choices, if we remove the negative, there's
Speaker 1: nothing to be learned. We are here to learn. This
Speaker 1: is a classroom. The last thing I learned with Drake
Speaker 1: before I got into heaven was that we are all one.
Speaker 1: We're not one being, but we're one in unity, in purpose,
Speaker 1: in light, and in love. And for us to hurt
Speaker 1: or harm another, it only hurts ourselves. There's not a
Speaker 1: way to win. Everyone loses in the war. This is
Speaker 1: a good time to take our break. Before he starts
Speaker 1: his next topic, Vincent continues his story of his near
Speaker 1: death experience, his insights from it, finding heaven on Earth,
Speaker 1: and who Drake ended up being. Let's go to the
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
Speaker 1: the Afterlife, Sandra Champlain. I'm telling the story of Vincent Tolman,
Speaker 1: who had a near death experience after taking a weight
Speaker 1: loss supplement at the age of twenty five. Paramedics had
Speaker 1: put him in a body bag thinking he was dead,
Speaker 1: and thankfully one paramedic knew better and was able to
Speaker 1: bring him back. Incredible story. Last he was talking about
Speaker 1: some insights while he was on the other side, including
Speaker 1: that our life is a classroom here on Earth, not
Speaker 1: a courtroom, so let's continue. By the time I finished
Speaker 1: that last principle or understanding with Drake, I actually touched
Speaker 1: down in this tremendous place that's heaven, and yes, it's
Speaker 1: a very real place. I saw the most beautiful hills
Speaker 1: and mountains, and I could feel the love of our
Speaker 1: creator from just the grass. The grass itself loved every
Speaker 1: cell of who I was. I could feel the individual
Speaker 1: perception and understanding of each blade of grass. It was
Speaker 1: life changing because as I touched down into space, I
Speaker 1: felt connection. I actually felt like I was a phone
Speaker 1: on low battery. There was a missing charger, and when
Speaker 1: I plugged in there, I felt like I was home,
Speaker 1: like that was my charger, and I could feel the
Speaker 1: energy exchange that was happening and all the healing that
Speaker 1: was happening to me. I got to see the trees
Speaker 1: and the flowers. I got to see the water. The
Speaker 1: water was my favorite of all of it. As I
Speaker 1: approached this edge of the little stream, the water asked
Speaker 1: me if it wanted it on me. Of course I
Speaker 1: wanted it. I wanted the whole experience, whatever version I
Speaker 1: could get. I said, yes, yes, I want this, And
Speaker 1: so the water darted at my toes and started going
Speaker 1: all over my body. But it wasn't making me feel
Speaker 1: wet whatsoever. It made me feel warm but also cool.
Speaker 1: And everywhere that water touched I became whole and felt loved.
Speaker 1: I became perfected, and I became free of defect from
Speaker 1: this life, this human life. And you know, I was
Speaker 1: raised in a very rough upbringing, so I had a
Speaker 1: lot of cracks and holes and abuse that needed healing.
Speaker 1: And I was allowed to receive this healing. And as
Speaker 1: I was experiencing all of that, my guide Drake came
Speaker 1: up to me, put his arm around me and looked
Speaker 1: me straight in the eyes and said, Bennie, this is
Speaker 1: going to be hard, but it is going to be
Speaker 1: worth it. And as he said that, I could feel
Speaker 1: him like reaching into my soul and brought me into
Speaker 1: this giant hug. What we do on Earth when we connect,
Speaker 1: or we have sex or hug or have any it's
Speaker 1: just a tiny mimic of what a hug feels like
Speaker 1: in Heaven. It's way more beautiful than anything you can
Speaker 1: experience on this earthly plane, and right as we were
Speaker 1: ending that hug and starting to come apart, I heard
Speaker 1: this special blessing being given to my body. Now, meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I was in a coma for three days, and at
Speaker 1: the end of my third day, my brother was in
Speaker 1: my hospital room and he was giving my body a
Speaker 1: special prayer. As he was saying that prayer, I was
Speaker 1: hearing it in my ear. I could see him standing
Speaker 1: by my body and saying a prayer over my body.
Speaker 1: I felt the tremendous love that my brother had for me.
Speaker 1: You know, my brother and me, we didn't always see
Speaker 1: eye to eye, but I felt so strongly how much
Speaker 1: he loved me. I felt the power of that love.
Speaker 1: And as I felt that power, I felt something pulling
Speaker 1: me and yanking me from my heaven space where I
Speaker 1: wanted to stay, and forcing me back into my body.
Speaker 1: And by the time he said amen, I was back
Speaker 1: in my body. I woke up at one eleven in
Speaker 1: the morning. I yanked out all of the tubes that
Speaker 1: were going into me because I was extremely claustrophobic. I
Speaker 1: wanted out of that hospital, but it took about six
Speaker 1: and a half hours of them testing me to make
Speaker 1: sure I was okay and doing paperwork for me being released.
Speaker 1: That was three days I was in the coma and
Speaker 1: after that I was completely fine and healed. I was
Speaker 1: even described as a miracle by my neurologist. That's where
Speaker 1: my experience takes a hard turn, because after that experience,
Speaker 1: I felt extremely depressed. I had been in heaven and
Speaker 1: now I'm on earth. I didn't want to be alive.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to my home. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be here, and I kept hearing Drake in
Speaker 1: my mind saying, Vinnie, remember this is going to be
Speaker 1: very hard, but it's going to be worth it. So
Speaker 1: I stuck it out until I met my wife, Andrea,
Speaker 1: and she was my saving grace. She was the one
Speaker 1: who helped me realize that there was heaven here on earth,
Speaker 1: and in her eyes I could see heaven. Then the
Speaker 1: strangest thing happened. I was at this little town in
Speaker 1: Wyoming where my grandmother lived, and I saw a history presentation.
Speaker 1: Then I saw my guide, Drake's picture come up on
Speaker 1: the screen. Now, it was just an old black and
Speaker 1: white photo, but it was him, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But it didn't say his name was Drake. It said
Speaker 1: his name was Charles, but I recognized the last name
Speaker 1: and I knew it was my grandmother's maiden name. So
Speaker 1: I went to my grandmother and said, who is this Charles?
Speaker 1: And her exact response was, oh, you mean great Grandpa Drake.
Speaker 1: He's famous in our family. And my mind was blown.
Speaker 1: That did it. This was all a very real experience.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a delusion, and it wasn't my imagination. And
Speaker 1: now I was fully able to take it and do
Speaker 1: something with it and make a difference for people with it.
Speaker 1: I am often asked if there is anything that happened
Speaker 1: during my experience that I don't normally talk about, and
Speaker 1: yes there is. I saw our future as a society
Speaker 1: and it looks way different than we are right now,
Speaker 1: and it's taken years and years for me to unpack
Speaker 1: how that transition happens from who we are now to
Speaker 1: who we become. No matter what the news wants to
Speaker 1: tell you, no matter what Chicken Little is saying about
Speaker 1: the sky falling, I want you to know that our
Speaker 1: future is absolutely right and freaking amazing. Now, society and
Speaker 1: humanity choose the light. They choose not to exist in
Speaker 1: a cage of fear because if you allow fear to
Speaker 1: cage you, it will. And so somehow we get out
Speaker 1: of all of these cages of fear and we start
Speaker 1: building communities all over the world in love. These special locations,
Speaker 1: build cities of light. That's our future, and I feel
Speaker 1: that it will start in my lifetime and we'll see
Speaker 1: those cities come together and start forming. I've now seen
Speaker 1: how that process happens. But the scary part is for
Speaker 1: most of the world is the process of getting ready
Speaker 1: for those cities of light. There's going to be a
Speaker 1: very big separation between fear and love. Most of the
Speaker 1: earth right now chooses the fear path. We jump into
Speaker 1: those cages of fear for safety. But for me, I
Speaker 1: choose love because knowing that we don't die is one
Speaker 1: of the best gifts. I'm so excited when I get
Speaker 1: to finally go back home. I really wanted to stay
Speaker 1: in heaven. And when I have friends die or family
Speaker 1: members die, I know I will feel sad and feel
Speaker 1: sad for the survivors, absolutely, but I know they live
Speaker 1: on right now. I do have jealousy when someone dies,
Speaker 1: I know where they are. If you had my experience,
Speaker 1: you'd feel the same way. You'd want to be back
Speaker 1: there with them celebrating. And that story is from a
Speaker 1: Vincent Tolman, and he has written a book and it's
Speaker 1: called The Light After Death, My Journey to Heaven and Back. Next,
Speaker 1: you'll hear Nurse Wanda Hawk tell her story. She does
Speaker 1: have a bird in the room, so if you hear
Speaker 1: some chirps in the background, you know what it is.
Speaker 3: When I was just nine years old, there was a
Speaker 3: family picnic where my father and his best friend and
Speaker 3: his family and a couple of other people went up
Speaker 3: to a lake. We ended up having a very bad
Speaker 3: boating accident where we ended up losing my father's friend's wife.
Speaker 3: Her name was Nora, my father, and then also my
Speaker 3: older sister, Debbie, who was not quite twelve at the time.
Speaker 3: The boat was just a little fishing boat that was
Speaker 3: only supposed to hold five, and it was overloaded with
Speaker 3: eight of us. There was Bob and his wife, and
Speaker 3: there two very small children who were still in diapers
Speaker 3: at the time, my mother and us three children. Oh,
Speaker 3: my brother was younger than me and he was in
Speaker 3: the boat also, So there was eight of us in
Speaker 3: the boat and we started out for a boat ride
Speaker 3: and somewhere along the way, the motor conked out and
Speaker 3: the boat flipped over and nobody could swim. What I
Speaker 3: was told happened was my brother had a fake leather
Speaker 3: jacket that he's got really tight, and it got un
Speaker 3: air underneath it and acted as a life jacket for him,
Speaker 3: and apparently I was hanging on to him somehow underneath
Speaker 3: the water. They did what they had to to find everybody.
Speaker 3: When they found me, I was lifeless. I didn't see
Speaker 3: a light, I didn't see a stairway or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I ended up being in this room that was in
Speaker 3: semi darkness. There were lots and lots of people in
Speaker 3: this room. I describe it now as a family reunion.
Speaker 3: It was like everybody knew me, and everybody was related
Speaker 3: to me, and some were friends and some were family,
Speaker 3: and there was just so much love. And it was
Speaker 3: like sitting by a fireplace with a warm quilt on.
Speaker 3: It was that much love. So I'm looking around and
Speaker 3: I'm a little confused, but I'm also very happy. And
Speaker 3: suddenly I hear my grandmother's voice. Granny had died the
Speaker 3: year before, and she said to me, Wanda, it's not
Speaker 3: your time. You have to go back and I said
Speaker 3: to her, but Granny, I want to stay with you.
Speaker 3: And then I heard my father's voice, which was very
Speaker 3: confusing to me, and he said, no, one, it's time
Speaker 3: for you to go back, and I need you to
Speaker 3: promise me that you'll take care of your mother. I said, okay, Daddy,
Speaker 3: but I want to stay, and he said, no, it's
Speaker 3: time to go back. I wanted to tell you what
Speaker 3: I was told happened while I was on the other side.
Speaker 3: The motor comped doubt, the boat started taking on water.
Speaker 3: My mother and Norah started to panic and they stood
Speaker 3: up when they realized the water was coming in the boat,
Speaker 3: and it was there standing up that flipped the boat
Speaker 3: and it was, as you know, capsized and the bottom
Speaker 3: was on the top. Nobody could swim, not Bob, not
Speaker 3: my mother, not Norah. None of us children had ever
Speaker 3: had swimming lessons at the time.
Speaker 1: I'd like to take our break here. When we get back,
Speaker 1: she'll continue the boating story and tell us of her
Speaker 1: second near death experience. Right back. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. We'll continue with the words of nurse Wanda,
Speaker 1: who shared about her near death experience when a family
Speaker 1: boat capsized, killing her dad, her sister, and her dad's
Speaker 1: best friend.
Speaker 3: Nobody could swim, not Bob, not my mother, not Norah.
Speaker 3: None of us children had ever had swimming lessons at
Speaker 3: the time. What I was told was my sister Debbie
Speaker 3: started to panic and as they say, you're ten times
Speaker 3: stronger when you panic. In her panicking, she grabbed onto Nora,
Speaker 3: and we were told that that's how Nara drowned was
Speaker 3: Debbie pulled her under on the other side. While things
Speaker 3: were happening and the people realized that there had been
Speaker 3: an accident, my father and the two men also ran
Speaker 3: around to try to get closer to the area. They
Speaker 3: were able to find another boat eventually and get everybody
Speaker 3: as they could, but they didn't put mother back into
Speaker 3: the boat because they were afraid that that boat was
Speaker 3: also going to capsize. They were able to find Nora
Speaker 3: right away when the alarm was sounded, but it took
Speaker 3: over two days for them to find my father and
Speaker 3: my sister. I just think it just shows the love
Speaker 3: that my father sacrificed to be able to get to
Speaker 3: my sister, because when they didn't find him, he was
Speaker 3: floating by this point, and when they went to pick
Speaker 3: him up, he literally had his arms around my sister
Speaker 3: and they were able to get them both together that way.
Speaker 3: It took maybe three days before I even saw my
Speaker 3: mother again. One of my uncles came up and brought
Speaker 3: my brother and I back to the city, and we
Speaker 3: stayed with them until mother was able to come and
Speaker 3: tell us that Dad and Debbie were no longer with us.
Speaker 3: With the boat accident, Nora, she drowned, my sister drowned,
Speaker 3: and my father also, even though he was on the shore,
Speaker 3: ran around the lake and jumped past a swampy area
Speaker 3: and jumped into a boat that had no oars, so
Speaker 3: he started swimming towards where the boat had been overturned. Now,
Speaker 3: my father was a very good swimmer. He used to
Speaker 3: swim the width of a river that she near our place,
Speaker 3: the Ottawa River, as a teenager, just for fun, so
Speaker 3: he was a very good swimmer. But by the time
Speaker 3: he had gotten to the boat, my sister had panicked
Speaker 3: and had already pulled down Bob's wife, Norah and as
Speaker 3: I said, she drowned. By the time my father got
Speaker 3: to Debbie, she also pulled him under and he also died.
Speaker 3: So in that day we lost three people. But I
Speaker 3: had this really amazing life changing visions, near death experience,
Speaker 3: whatever people want to call it. People have told me
Speaker 3: all kinds of things over the years, but that was
Speaker 3: my first one as a child, and it really changed
Speaker 3: my life because as a nine ten year old girl,
Speaker 3: I would get myself up on Sundays and take myself
Speaker 3: to Sunday school. Religion was a very strong part of
Speaker 3: my life for the whole of my life, and I
Speaker 3: really feel it's because of that interaction with minor death experience.
Speaker 3: I didn't see anybody that I would say was God
Speaker 3: or angels or anything like that. I think what I
Speaker 3: mostly felt was the overwhelming love, whether it come from
Speaker 3: my reunion family or from a higher source. Because I
Speaker 3: was so young, I really couldn't tell you that. But
Speaker 3: as I said, because of that experience, it really did
Speaker 3: change my life life, believing in God and doing good
Speaker 3: things for people throughout my life. So this is my
Speaker 3: second near death. I was very young. I was twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, maybe working as a nurse full time and
Speaker 3: I needed to have my wisdom teeth out, but I
Speaker 3: was asthmatic at the time, and the dentist wasn't comfortable
Speaker 3: with doing it in the office, so he made arrangements
Speaker 3: for me to go to day surgery have all four
Speaker 3: of my wisdom teeth out, then they could monitor me
Speaker 3: before they sent me home. So the day came and
Speaker 3: we ended up having to go to a small town
Speaker 3: about two hours from here in order to have it
Speaker 3: done because the waiting list was way too long for
Speaker 3: another to go to a hospital here in Ottawa. So
Speaker 3: I went and it was your usual prep and things
Speaker 3: went well in the surgery. I guess what happened was
Speaker 3: because of the anesthesia, I'd stopped breathing and my heart
Speaker 3: had stopped. In the recovery room, and remember I was
Speaker 3: a nursed at the time. All the bells and whistles
Speaker 3: going off, and somebody bringing the crash cart over to
Speaker 3: the patient in the bed. I was standing in the
Speaker 3: corner and I was watching this and I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: I better get over there and do my job. So
Speaker 3: I went over to the bed and I was getting
Speaker 3: very angry because I couldn't get in close to the
Speaker 3: bed to the patient. The people were all doing their
Speaker 3: things around me and get me this, and get me that,
Speaker 3: and keep doing this, and okay, take over CPR, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But they wouldn't let me do my job,
Speaker 3: and it was really starting to piss me off. But
Speaker 3: the next thing you know, I'm up on the ceiling
Speaker 3: or from a higher plane and I'm looking down and
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, that's me. So I'm watching them
Speaker 3: working on me, and I'm listening to what they're saying,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking wow, And I just watched from there.
Speaker 3: And so next thing you know, wop, I'm back in
Speaker 3: my body and I wake up and they say, take
Speaker 3: it easy. You had a little complication after, but you're fine. Now.
Speaker 3: We're going to keep you under observation for a little
Speaker 3: while and then we're going to send you home. And
Speaker 3: I said, did my heart stop? I said, I died?
Speaker 3: And the doctor looked at me and said, what are
Speaker 3: you talking about? And I said, my heart stopped. I said,
Speaker 3: I saw you do the CPR. And he said, what
Speaker 3: do you mean. I said, I saw the crash card.
Speaker 3: I saw you guys working on me. He said, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you didn't see any of that. He said, Wanda, your nurse.
Speaker 3: You know how it goes the steps to get somebody going.
Speaker 3: You weren't gone for that long, but we got you
Speaker 3: going again, and you're fine. And then I looked at
Speaker 3: him straight in the eye and I said, now, I
Speaker 3: don't remember what I told him, but I told him
Speaker 3: something that he'd said to a nurse in the room
Speaker 3: while this was all going, and it was something that
Speaker 3: wasn't normal, not something that you would normally say in
Speaker 3: a code. And he looked at me and his face
Speaker 3: just went white. He said, oh, and he couldn't get
Speaker 3: out of there fast enough. So I thought that was
Speaker 3: very interesting. I told my mother on the way home,
Speaker 3: and she had the same reaction as the doctor, and
Speaker 3: so I really didn't think much of it. But that
Speaker 3: really changed my life also, because, as I said, I
Speaker 3: was nursing at the time, and whenever I got the
Speaker 3: chance and there was a patient that I knew was
Speaker 3: near dying a few days away, or they didn't have
Speaker 3: a lot of family or that type of thing, the
Speaker 3: staff knew where to find me. All the time. I
Speaker 3: would always be in that room, and I always found
Speaker 3: they were more peaceful, and so was I when I
Speaker 3: was in the room with them, And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it's because it was me that was in the room,
Speaker 3: but it was because there was somebody there that cared,
Speaker 3: even if I had just met them the night before,
Speaker 3: or they came in three days ago, or they'd been
Speaker 3: in with us for a month actively dying. I spent
Speaker 3: that time with them, gently talking to them, assuring them
Speaker 3: that things are all right. Soon they would be out
Speaker 3: of pain, and I'm right here, and anything I could
Speaker 3: do that I could think would make them comfortable. But
Speaker 3: mostly I just sat there and talked quietly or read
Speaker 3: a book. Sometimes I would just bring a book with
Speaker 3: me if it was the middle of the night. Which
Speaker 3: brings me to a very interesting phenomenon that happened not once,
Speaker 3: but twice. And I honestly believe that I saw two
Speaker 3: souls leave their body at the moment of death, and
Speaker 3: both times were different. The first time, again, like I said,
Speaker 3: it was at the moment of death. Nurses know and
Speaker 3: practisers know that there's noises that bodies makes, and you know,
Speaker 3: the settling, and I hate the word, but they call
Speaker 3: it the death rattle. The first patient I saw something,
Speaker 3: it was just very much like, think of somebody who's vaping,
Speaker 3: who's just taken a big puff of their ease cigarette
Speaker 3: and they're letting you go. And that's what I saw,
Speaker 3: was this mist rose from the body near the heart
Speaker 3: and it just floated and then dissipated in the air.
Speaker 3: And I thought, wow, And I took my stethoscope and
Speaker 3: put it on their heart and checked the time of death,
Speaker 3: the usual nursing things. The second time, I was again
Speaker 3: with a patient, and this time it was a woman.
Speaker 3: She was very chatty and very friendly when she was
Speaker 3: with us before, and that type of thing, and you
Speaker 3: get to know their families. The family had decided that
Speaker 3: they were going to go and have a meal or
Speaker 3: go and get some rest or whatever, and I said,
Speaker 3: don't worry, I'm here. I'll watch over her. And so
Speaker 3: I did have a few minutes and I snuck into
Speaker 3: her room and I was sitting beside her, and I said, hey,
Speaker 3: miss Is, I'm here. The family's just gone out, but
Speaker 3: i'll be with you while you're here. And as I
Speaker 3: was sitting there, out of the corner of my eye,
Speaker 3: I literally see her sit up, not her the body,
Speaker 3: but her an essence of her. I don't want to
Speaker 3: use the term ghost, but that's the best way I
Speaker 3: could describe it. It was just an essence of her.
Speaker 3: She literally sat up in the bed and she looked around,
Speaker 3: and then she got up on a plane that I
Speaker 3: didn't see, a level that I wasn't seeing myself. She
Speaker 3: stood straight up, and she turned around and she looked
Speaker 3: at herself, and then she just walked off. And again
Speaker 3: I checked her pulse and I checked her heart rate,
Speaker 3: and she was gone. That was very profound to me.
Speaker 3: Sitting with the patients and being with them near their
Speaker 3: time was very special to me, and I found comfort
Speaker 3: for myself and I found a lot of peace with it.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily tell that story very often, but when
Speaker 3: I say that I found it very peaceful to be
Speaker 3: sitting with dying patients, they think I'm crazy. But I've
Speaker 3: noticed a trend in the last i don't know, ten
Speaker 3: or fifteen years that now there's something called a death doula,
Speaker 3: and I really feel like that's something that I would
Speaker 3: love to do, and I would love to be able
Speaker 3: to be given that chance and be able to have
Speaker 3: the gift of being with people as they are near
Speaker 3: the end and crossing over to their side and to
Speaker 3: their family, and to whatever they say is heaven to them.
Speaker 3: I guess the biggest message I could give to anybody
Speaker 3: is you shouldn't fear dying. This is just an outer casing.
Speaker 3: This is just the wrapping that you happen to have
Speaker 3: in this lifetime. I always try to remind people that
Speaker 3: they're human. Don't look down on homeless people because they're
Speaker 3: human too. And they had family in front. They were
Speaker 3: somebody's son, they were somebody's daughter, They somebody's mother or father.
Speaker 3: They need to be treated with respect and dignity also.
Speaker 3: And it's the hardest job I've ever loved.
Speaker 1: Wonderful words from Wanda Hawk. And remember you don't need
Speaker 1: to have a near death experience to glean the benefits
Speaker 1: of it. The afterlife is real and someday you'll be
Speaker 1: greeted with loving arms, but not too soon. Your life
Speaker 1: here is important. If these episodes make a difference for you,
Speaker 1: could I ask that you leave a review. You never
Speaker 1: know who needs to hear just what you have to say.
Speaker 1: Please come visit me at We Don't Die dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
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