1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Well, welcome in everybody. Today Wednesday night ed issue of 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: your host, John Harrison. I'm sitting next to the voice 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: of the Texans, Mark Van Meermark. They're always every day 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: in this building is good building, a good day, but 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: when there's a practice or there's actual football going on, 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: it's even better day. Well, I'll say this, it's week 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: two of these OTAs. It's a four week process. The 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: final week is minicamp, and I like seeing the improvement 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: how things evolve from week to week. And we saw 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: some stuff today. You could see more crispness I thought 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: in certain areas anyway. And like I said last week, 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson getting all these first team reps in OTAs, 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned it, first time this franchise quarterback has gotten 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: these first team reps, and the first time that you've 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: had a franchise quarterback getting the first team reps at 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: OTA since twenty sixteen. For this club, it's gonna be 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: so helpful. The seeds planted today will be harvested in September. Yeah, 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: there's no question. And we'll hear from a number of 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: the particulars. In the next segment here from Bill O'Brien, 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: you'll hear from Dante Foreman, Jumpton, Joseph they went to 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: the podium today. Oh and also Kiki qt went to 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the podium as well, so we'll have a little bit 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: of sound from all of them. And then Dredory will 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Jonas for our in lab segment which we went, we 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: went a little bit in the way back machine. Mark 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: because we've got a really cool cool segment segments to 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: right word, we've got a cool thing coming out on 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Texans dot com, uston Texas dot com, the Texans one 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: hundred Top Moments, and do not. In the lab, we 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: decided to go in the wayback machine and come up 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: with a few of them that were that were our own, 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that we talked about that we would put on there. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Whether they make the list or not. We're we're not 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: the we're not the full committee, but there are a 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: few that were up there. You didn't talk about some 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: of the ones on the bubble huh. No, we didn't go. 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: We didn't get into the bubble analysis, not yet anyway 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: to get outside the hundred. Well, that top one hundred list, 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: by the way Organizational moments. So it's not just football stuff. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: Covers everything covers everything, covers hurricane relief, of ours, things 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: like that. The Texans were heavily involved in as an 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: organization as well as on field moments. Mostly on field moments, 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: though there are some good ones, but we we kind 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: of went into the stories and Drew's first one, well, 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to take it away, but his first 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: one had to do with a Monday night football game 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. Okay, I know which one 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: that is. I think, yeah, it was. It was a 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: pretty good one. That That's a pretty good one for 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: me too. That's a very good one. That was way 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: up there for me. That was a that was and 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: for me it was one of those where I was 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: looking at it right, I was right there, I was 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: like five yards away from seeing it happen, and it 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: was just a considering how that season was going and 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: what everybody thought about that game. It was. It was 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. It was a game changer. It was a 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: life changer for some really what was that game? We'll 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: talk about that later in the show. But OTAs today 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: and Mark there always as we watch ots and yes, 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a passing camp and so the majority of the 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: offense defensive linement, we don't talk too much about it. 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about one outside linebacker after a little bit. 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I think in the two OTAs that we've seen, I 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: think he looks really, really good, and we'll get to 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: him in just a second. But the past catchers, the 68 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: passage you talked about the Shawn Watson. As you watch 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: practice today, was there anything or anybody that stood out 70 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: to you where you went, Okay, yeah, that guy looks 71 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: really good. Well. I always like looking at rookies last 72 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: year and the year one a year to jump, which 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: it's to be fair, you can't expect it to happen 74 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: right away at OTAs. This is their first taste of 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: team action on the practice field, and you want to 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: see if it happens really during the season, of course, 77 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: but as they get into training camp and have a 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: few more practices under their belt. But I really enjoyed 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: watching Vincent Smith. You know, we talked to him, we 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: had him on the show to see what he's doing 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: out there, taking advantage of all these reps he's getting 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: with Will Fuller out back yet and things like that. 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: And then you look at Jordan Thomas about those four 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: touchdown catches last year, and it just stands out, especially 85 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: when you're up close with him and you're down on 86 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the sideline when we're doing these broadcasts. But to be 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: on the practice field and see him operate as big 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: as he is with those hands and look, we see 89 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: it off in videos, so it's not like I'm breaking 90 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: any news here, but to see it up close live 91 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: is really something because that big body, you know, and 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: we had him in here in studio, we're talking about 93 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: it with him. He just works on it so much. 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Having the hands. You can tell some of that is 95 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: natural ability as well, but he puts the time in. 96 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: And to see someone with a body that size is 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: two eighty or whatever he is being able to catch 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: the ball that's softly and Watson's ability to get the 99 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: ball where it needs to be away from the defender 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: up high. He's gonna be a tough cover, Johnny, because 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: with Jordan Thomas, if the routes are run right and 102 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: the throws are there and everything, and you get enough 103 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: time and maybe it's a quick throw, I don't know, 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need that much time, but Jordan Thomas 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be hailacious eventually for people to guard to cover, 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter if you're all over him, he 107 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: can still get to the football in that way. He 108 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: could be Look, I'm not saying he's Gronk, but he 109 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: could be Gronk like because Gronk is like that where 110 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: he's tall and you get the ball outside high end 111 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: away from the defender. Even though the defenders on him, 112 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You're not gonna be 113 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: able to cover him like you wouldn't cover most tight 114 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: ends in this league. He's taller and bigger than every 115 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: defensive back in the NFL. There's nobody gonna be bigger 116 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: and taller than him. So if he's matched up one 117 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: on one and the ball is thrown in a spot 118 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: or only gonna he's gonna catch it. And that's what 119 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: you worry about. He's got a good to catch it. 120 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: A lot of tight ends his size or if similarly, 121 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the hands to get to it. But 122 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: he's got those hands. And by the way you mentioned, 123 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: he'll be bigger than any defensive back. I would love 124 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: to see a defensive back as big and tall as him. Hey, 125 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: we have a two hundred and seventy five pounds safety 126 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: ready in a rock I have. There's there's one. There's 127 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: one guy that I think could do it, one guy 128 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: that I think at his size could do it. And 129 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: you know exactly who I'm talking about and who I'm 130 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: thinking about. That's Jebion Clowney. Clowney is the only guy 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: that would even have a chance matches up size wise. 132 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know how many times going into a 133 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: playoff game he's like, why do you cover ground? Or 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: you know when we played him, somebody suggested putting Clowne 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: out there, and I was like, look, you're not gonna 136 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: put Clowne out there. It's just not what he does. 137 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: That's not his thing. But if you had to, could 138 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: he do it? He probably could figure it out. He 139 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: probably could figure it out. But here's the thing is, 140 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, offense, they know where they're going. Defense, they 141 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: have to react, So the reaction speed has to be 142 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: You have to have a faster guy in lateral quickness 143 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: reaction time than the receiver is just to enable to 144 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: enable him to catch up or have a chance to 145 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: catch up to whatever move the receiver slash tight end 146 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: is making. And that's why some bigger guys like Clowney 147 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: have a difficult time covering a tight end. And look 148 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: that Clowny is not asked to cover tight ends. But 149 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking if you were thinking of a guy 150 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: that the only guy that I've ever seen that could 151 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: probably do that would be would be Jad Fade Pattern 152 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: maybe or something to make that maybe maybe. But these 153 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: sent ends are going to be a problem. Yeah, they're 154 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: going to be a problem. We heard from Wearing at 155 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: the podium today. I know you're gonna probably have something 156 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: from him, And yeah, I don't know his exact pronunciation yet. 157 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I will get it for you because it's not Cayami 158 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: Fairbear's full name length, but it's it's a long name, 159 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: all right, it's a full name. It's an island type name, 160 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and I will have it for you soon enough. Well, 161 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: I sent you the other day. I sent you a 162 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: text a picture of the graduating class of the village 163 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: school in twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, I sent to you 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that daughter school, my daughter school. But all of a sudden, 165 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: you see these names that are I mean some are 166 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: thirty letters long, and you're like, oh my gosh. And 167 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: then Mayhers which she graduation will happen. But these tight 168 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: ends are gonna be a problem. They're gonna be a 169 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: big problem. And Bill Bryant was at the Ponium. He's 170 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: asked about Jordan Thomas. I mean he said, well, he's 171 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: got some room still to grow, but he's taking a 172 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of stride. Yeah, I definitely think he's made progression. 173 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: He's he's worked very hard. He's uh, you know, anytime 174 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: you play as a rookie, you know that's that can 175 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: be good and bad. I mean, you go through some 176 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: tough times and you know it's a lot different than 177 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, playing a mississ State. And then he you know, 178 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: he did some good things for us last year and 179 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: he's come back here in the offseason program and he's 180 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and he's had a decent spring. He's got a long 181 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: way to go to be where he wants to be 182 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: and where we need him to be. But he's definitely 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: made a lot of progress. You talked about his big 184 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: body mark, and I that's it's so evident. And I 185 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: remember when we sat here on draft Day and you're like, Wow, 186 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: they've gotten there. You know, they're they're blocking tight ends. 187 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Was like, wait, hold on, he was a wide receiver 188 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. He with Jordan Nakins, with Kylie Waring, 189 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: those three and even Darren Fells. And watched Darren Fells 190 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: today run routes catching football. You know, he said here 191 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: and he told us, look what I do best is block. 192 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that's my role. What are you a 193 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: guy like that catching the football the way he was 194 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: today Darren Fells. And somebody asked me, I think Sean 195 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: Panner got has asked me about how many tight ends 196 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: make this team, and I was like, I can't see 197 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: any of them not making the team because all of 198 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: them can bring something different to the party, which could 199 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: make that group really eclectic in different something's gonna give 200 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: numbers wise, though I know we're tight ends on the roster. 201 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Somebody who's asking me about Joe Webb today when when 202 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: we were watching practice, and I said, well, look, I 203 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: just can't see them carrying fewer than three quarterbacks. And 204 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: with Webb, at least he's doing something for he's playing 205 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: special teams, and I know a lot of teams would 206 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: deactivate that third guy keep him on the roster. I 207 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: hate having too, only because if you lose your starter, 208 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you're automatic, you're in stress mode anyway. Okay, so I 209 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: get it, but you you are one snap away from 210 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the third guy playing, and if the third guy's not 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: in your roster, you're in deep, you know what, because 212 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you have to sign him that Monday or Sunday, get 213 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: him in, get him up to speed, and it's a 214 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: real dangerous situation. Unfortunately, we've seen that unfold here. So 215 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: I think Webb's gonna find his way onto the roster again, 216 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: assuming everything's still there health wise, special teams, prowess and 217 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: all of that. You know, I just love seeing him operate. 218 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know you look at those tight ends 219 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Johnny four. Yeah, it sounds like a lot to some people. 220 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: I've mentioned. I think last week that I had a 221 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: big debate with Claim about him. Maybe I'll bring this 222 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: up again tomorrow with him. I'm gonna actually start going 223 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: through some of these numbers I have last year's prediction 224 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: and the way it turned out with the fifty three 225 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: man roster. I'm not going to predict the whole roster, 226 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: but I just want to see how much room there 227 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: might be to keep four tight ends, because you're right, 228 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: you'd love to see all these guys make it, and 229 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: you still have some other bodies on the roster as 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: well in that position group. We'll be interesting is and 231 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I know the offensive line, you want to be as 232 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: solid as you can be there. But if you had 233 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: two in a pinch, but Darren Bell's at tackle, he 234 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: might be able to get away with it for a 235 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, you know, for a few snatch or whatever. 236 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: You don't want to have to see that. But he 237 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: can do it in a pitch. Oh my gosh, I 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: hope we don't have to see that. No. Back to 239 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Vincent Smith, he I think of anybody, especially today, his 240 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: comfort level from one year's time you talked about going 241 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: from rookie year to second year. You saw it and 242 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: we saw a kiki qt the first ota see it 243 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: again today. But you could tell there's no Hopkins, there's 244 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: no Fuller. You can tell that the Shan when he 245 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 1: got in a situation where he liked the matchup with it, 246 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: he was going to Vincent. He had a lot of 247 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: trust in Vincent, which was which was cool to see. 248 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: But you can see the confidence continue to grow in 249 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Vincent because he knows where to be, he knows where 250 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: to go, He understands the offense a little bit more. 251 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: But you talked about a rookie the second year jump. 252 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: I loovet Vincent, and he caught it in all different 253 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: kinds of fashions, a little shouts, he caught it deeper 254 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: down the field running. It's really really good the route running, 255 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: and the world's gonna see it in these preseason games. 256 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: You're gonna see that he's improved as a route runner. 257 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: And he made the fifty three man roster, made some 258 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: plays last year, but he might get more opportunities this year. Look, 259 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: he'd love to stay perfectly healthy with the top three 260 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: guys and take it from there. But as we've seen, 261 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: you do need as many as you can possibly get 262 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: of these playmakers. But I like watching Watson throw the 263 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: football just in because he threw some passes today where 264 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: the receiver the break was so early compared to where 265 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: the throw was, you thought, oh, there's no way. Oh wait, 266 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: he caught it, you know, because they have timing that 267 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: they're developing during these sessions. And that's where I go 268 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: back to these first team reps he's getting that's really 269 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna help us offense once they get the camp. I 270 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: loved loved watching Warren Moon throw the football. It was 271 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: so effortless and so easy, and the ball would travel 272 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: forty yards Online. I loved watching Warren Moon throw the ball. 273 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think I would ever watch anybody and go, 274 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: I like that guy. I like watching that guy throw 275 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: the ball better than Warren Moon. And I feel that 276 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: way with the shot. Really, it's so the same kind 277 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: of No, it's not there, No, they're they're different kinds 278 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: of throwers. Yeah, and I should say passers. Thrower makes 279 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: it seem as if they're they're inaccurate, But they're different 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: kinds of passers. Isn't that a negative term? And you're evaluating, Yeah, 281 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: he's a throw Yeah, you want a passer, And so 282 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I didn't say it that way. 283 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: But it's just the Sean makes it look so effortless 284 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: and easy no matter what throw he is making, and 285 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: then when he needs to drive one even one to 286 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: day in practice, I thought broke Jjoe's hand. Jjo was 287 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: in a in a in a coverage in which he 288 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: was kind of in front of the receiver and then 289 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: the receiver tried to move and Jjo went with him, 290 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: and so he saw the receiver's eyes and he looked 291 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: back and Deshaun was firing it. I mean it was 292 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: on a rope about twenty or twenty five yards and 293 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: Jjo got his hand in to break it up and 294 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I just saw his hand kind of ricochet back and went, WHOA, 295 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: that ball had some Remember remember two years ago people 296 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: were talking about, well does he have the velocity strength 297 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: at the combine? The arm strength wasn't calm ones I 298 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier the outside linebacker that that has really impressed me. 299 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: You would think since being here in twenty twenty twelve 300 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: that Okay, Whitney merciless OTAs, he's been around, he's done this. 301 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: I think whit looks really good. I think, I mean 302 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: they all do, but he has this look about him, 303 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: doesn't he does? Today he looks he looks fresh and look, 304 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to overact to OTAs and no pads 305 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and everything, but it looked good to see him out there. 306 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Just his juice, his explosiveness, everything that you wanted in 307 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: an edge rusher. It feels like Whitney's shown it. And 308 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: now obviously that has to that has to transition into 309 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: training camp. But man, I think he is I think 310 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: he has looked really really good. He's looked good. You know. 311 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien talked about you can see some things with 312 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: the wide receivers and OTAs, and you can see some 313 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: things with the defensive backs. You know, you can't get 314 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: overly physical, but you can get physical enough where you 315 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: can see some of these matchups and how these guys 316 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: would do. But he said something this week that he 317 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: also said last week, which is, I want to see 318 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: how they learn. Not necessarily well, you do want to 319 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: see them learning, clearly, I mean that's that's number one, 320 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: But how they learn, the pace at which they learn. 321 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Are they are they learning? Are they is it taking 322 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: too long for them to get something? Are they absorbing 323 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: it quickly? How they learn as a big factor here. 324 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: And I listened carefully to his words. They're watching this 325 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: because you know, they want to see the guys who 326 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: are able to absorb and acclimate to whatever they're trying 327 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: to do here at the next level. And by the 328 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: next level, I mean if you're a rookie going to 329 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: the year two, or if you're a rookie right now 330 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: going into your first year, and all of that we 331 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: will hear from Bill O'Brien, Kaale wearing Deante Foreman, Kikqt, 332 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph, Max Sharping all the next right here on 333 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Texas to access. Today we got a chance to see 334 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the team in action at Ota. Well for us it's 335 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: number two, but I believe it was ote number five 336 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: for the team as they get it going. A few 337 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: days after Memorial Day and the players and coach O'Brian 338 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: went to the podium today, so let's hear from them. 339 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with coach Bill O'Brien, and he talked about 340 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's improvement early on at OTS. He has better 341 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: grasp obviously, every every day he works hard at at 342 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: getting better and better at mastering our offense, understanding what 343 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: we're doing, and then you know, understanding defenses. I think 344 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, with experience and all the reps that he's 345 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: that he's had, whether it's in games or obviously in practices, 346 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: he gets better and better because he works hard at it. 347 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: So I think all those things will lead to um, 348 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, very very consistent play for any player, and 349 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: he's done a good job of, you know, stacking days 350 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: upon days of getting better. One group that certainly has 351 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: to get better is this group of rookies and coach 352 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: was very straightforward when he said this about the rookies 353 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: thus far and OTAs, I think all the rookies got 354 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: a long way to go. I think they got a 355 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: long way to go. I think they're working hard. I 356 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: think it's a group of good guys. But I would 357 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: say that they're there, They've got a long way to 358 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: go the whole group. Look, that's to be expected. When 359 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: you make that first year to second year jump, that's 360 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: when you start to see the confidence coming in. Look, 361 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: even when you're in that second year, you've got a 362 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: long way to go. But the rookies do they get 363 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to this point right now, there's a lot being thrown 364 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: at them. They do have they have a long way 365 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: to go. And it's about that time during OTAs where 366 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: we hear Bill O'Brien say that, of course its temper expectation, 367 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: but also to say the rookies, look, time step up. 368 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: The vets are here. They know what it takes. You 369 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: gotta get on their level, not the other way around. 370 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: So good stuff there from coach O'Brien. All right, let's 371 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: get too one of those guys making the first year 372 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: to second year jump, and that's Kiki qt and he 373 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: said with no Hopkins and no Fuller, he's getting a 374 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: lot of time to create that synergy with Sean Watson. 375 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: H Yeah, no doubt. You know, the more Russ you 376 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: can get, the better, you know, just working on that 377 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: connection with Deshaun. You know, that's what the OTAs is for, 378 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, just to get the small things down. So 379 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: just just get all that timing down right now, It's 380 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: been very good, and Kiki certainly has a plan from 381 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: when he gets the ball in his hand. Honestly, every 382 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: time I says the ball, I'm looking to score. But 383 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously that doesn't happen. But you know, just 384 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: to my routine plays as well, you know, just any 385 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: way to help this team. The two OTAs that we've 386 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: gotten to see, the two guys rookie to second year 387 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers that have made the leave Vincent Smith and 388 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Keiki Qut are making it. Obviously they've got a long 389 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: way to go, coach Men said about the rookies. Every 390 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: player's got a long way to go. But you can 391 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: see where it's really benefiting both Vincent submithing k QT 392 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: to be on the field consistently to create as Keiki 393 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: said that combination, that connection with Deshaun Watson, and you 394 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: can tell that he feels pretty comfortable with those two guys. 395 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: He has some experience with them, and that helps. That 396 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: really helps, especially during OTA's to get that down now 397 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: and work on that now for when you get to 398 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: training camp, it's just is happening second nature, because then 399 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have DeAndre Hopkins out there and Will Fuller 400 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: and hopefully of both of them. My guesses and my 401 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: thought is that you will, but you'll have both them 402 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: out there, but you've created that synergy with him that 403 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: he knows, he feels comfortable with you. That Hops covered, 404 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: Will's covered, Okay, Kiki or Vincent, that's what you want 405 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: to be able to do, and Kiki obviously has been 406 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: doing that and Vincent definitely was doing that today. Now, 407 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: a guy that you would think he he's been around 408 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: OTAs for such a long time, there's not a whole 409 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: lot for Jonathan Joseph to really grasp, you would think. 410 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: But that's not the way the veteran feels. He said, Look, 411 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: I've been around, but there's still a lot that I 412 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: can get out of OTAs. Oh yeah, of course, you know, 413 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: I think you know for me just going out there 414 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: with new guys. You know, I was just getting out 415 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: camaraderie together, because that's in the back end. You know, 416 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: you have to always be on the same page. Communication 417 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: goes a long way and just get to know one another, 418 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously from being in the classroom to wait 419 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: room and things like that, but plans together goes a 420 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: long way out. So one of the things I love 421 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: about Jonathan is it doesn't matter whether it's OTA's in 422 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the spring session, or it's a training 423 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: camp practice, or it's late in the game against Philadelphia 424 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: on the road. He treats each situation as if it's 425 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: the last play that he's ever gonna play. And there 426 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: was a play today during OTA's where he thought he 427 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: could have made the play and he was kind of 428 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: over by us by the sideline. He was kind of like, yeah, 429 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: I'm marrin. He's just kind of getting upset with himself, 430 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: and he said, look, I compete. That's what I like 431 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to do. I'm just being competitive. I like to compete, 432 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's in practice in game situations. That's 433 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: what get me going each and every time I'm out there. 434 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: I never want to lose a rep, always looking to 435 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: beat the guy across from me. And you know, at 436 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day, just being around a guys 437 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: in this locker room, being around a game of football, 438 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: this seve. If there is any lesson that rookies can 439 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: take from watching the veterans, I think that's it. No 440 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: matter the rep, no matter when it is, no matter 441 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: where it is, win that rep. And then when the 442 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: next one, and when the next one. And look, as 443 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Kiki said about scoring every time he touches it, it's impossible. 444 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: But if you if you think of football in that 445 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: way and you have that philosophy, no matter what, win 446 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: the rep. If you do that, as coach and Brian said, 447 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: you starts stacking him together for long. You're gonna be 448 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: a guy that's around an NFL football team for a 449 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: very long time. So, whether it's OTAs or it's training camp, 450 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: win the rep. I think Jonathan puts it perfectly right there. Now, 451 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: a guy that I know a lot of people in 452 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: this area are very excited about and should be second 453 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: year guy. I say second year guy third year guy 454 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas from trip from Texas City 455 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: is Deonta Foreman and last year. Unfortunately, it was lost 456 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: year for Gionta because of the Achilles and were worried 457 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: about that because the timing of when the Achilles injury 458 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: happened back in twenty seventeen and then going into twenty 459 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: eight play in the Philadelphia game, but that was the 460 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: only game he played, score a touchdown on a reception. 461 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: But he mentioned in his press conference today, you know, 462 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have a great game up to that point, 463 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: so I don't really remember it too much. But he's 464 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: still is confident going into twenty nineteen. Hey, I got 465 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: a lot to bring to this team. I'm a confident dude. 466 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: I know what I can bring and hopefully teammates and 467 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: coaches find that out in twenty nineteen as well. Oh yeah, 468 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: I've always you know, I've been a guy that, uh, 469 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's very confident in myself and confident in 470 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: what I could do and what I could bring to 471 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: the team. So, you know, I'm definitely confident in that. Uh. 472 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: I guess it's exciting to say that. I feel like 473 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: my coach isn't you know, are excited about me coming in. Uh, 474 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, just the work that I put in the 475 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: offseason and what I'm putting out there right now. You know, 476 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: like I said, it's just kind of the beginning. So 477 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: we got a long way before we get to the season, 478 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: but you know, it just got to continue. It's that 479 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: good day, the type of good days now throughout all 480 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: last year, throughout OTAs, throughout training camp, throughout the season, 481 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: we got asked the question, what about Deante Foreman? How 482 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: does it look? How does he feel? What's going on 483 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: with him? I mean people wanted to ask that question 484 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: every single time we had that forum. Whether it was 485 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: cool or talk, whether it was radio, whether it didn't matter, 486 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: people wanted to know about Deanta Foreman. So at this 487 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: point in taste, you tell him her are you feeling? 488 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: So I was talking to somebody else about that, and 489 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: I would tell them, like, man, I felt coming into 490 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: this season or you know this ota, Um, I felt 491 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: way better than I even felt come and in any 492 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: season that I had at the University of Texas, possibly 493 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: even high school. To be honest, I mean, I just 494 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I guess, like I said earlier, basically with the injury 495 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: that I went through, when just ups and dollars I 496 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: went through, Like you know, when you have an injury 497 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: like that, early. You know, you can tell that this 498 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: game come and go. You know, like anybody can get injured, 499 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: and you know you could be at your high end 500 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: and be at the lowest in a split second. So 501 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, just me being able to understand that, you know, 502 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to come out and you know, put 503 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: everything on the line and you know, have a great offseason. 504 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: We heard from coach O'Brian talking about the rookie still 505 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: have a long way to go. But a couple of 506 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: rookies stepped up to the podium today to handle some 507 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: questions from the Houston media for the first time. And 508 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: let's start with Max Sharping, who has been playing tackle, 509 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: has been playing guard, He's been playing both sides. He's 510 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: all over the place. He's versatile. So how does it 511 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: help him? I mean, I'm just trying to do the 512 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: best I can. So when I go in there, you 513 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: know they tell me to go in that guard, tackle, whatever. 514 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: It's just doing the best I can do it at 515 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: that And you expected a different answer. That was the 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: answer he was supposed to give, and he gave a 517 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: good answer. Now, one answer I thought that was very 518 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: interesting was the difference in playing tackle versus guard. This 519 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting, especially coming from a rookie who's played 520 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: his entire career at NIU. I think minus a few 521 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: games that guard, he played a right tackle and mostly 522 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: left tackle. It's a pretty interesting answer to the question 523 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: of what really is different about it. Yeah, I mean 524 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: everything just kind of happens quicker inside. You know, you 525 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: don't have as much space as you do at tackle, 526 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: so it's just a little bit. Everything happens just a 527 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit faster. But like I said, I tried to 528 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: train a little bit. But obviously these guys are pretty good, 529 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: So I like that last part. These guys are pretty good. Yeah, 530 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: everybody in the NFL is pretty good. I think Max 531 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: is finding that out. But the big boy can hold 532 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: his own. There's no doubt about that. Last guy we're 533 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna hear from is Well. I'll let him tell you 534 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: what his first name is. My full first name is 535 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Kah and I can handle last name Wearing. That's Kylie 536 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Wearing giving his first name. Now it's not Cayimi's middle name, 537 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: but was interesting that he was asked that today. Now, 538 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: both the rookies and the veterans had a chance to 539 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: hear from Marcus Luttrell who is just an unbelievable speaker, 540 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: an American hero. He's a guy that's been in this 541 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: building a number of times. I think he actually was 542 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: on a team flight one time. And he's just very 543 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: highly thought of in this building. And the rookies had 544 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: a chance to hear from him, I believe yesterday or 545 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: earlier this morning, and the veterans later today. But here's 546 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: what Kylie had to say about Marcus Latrelle talking to them. 547 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: It was awesome American hero. He taught us a lot 548 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: of different things, you know, taught us his story and 549 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: taught us ways that his path can help help us 550 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: as a football team. Well, Kylie was drafted on Friday night. 551 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: We were talking to him. I mentioned when I saw him, 552 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: I thought of Travis Kelsey and I said, look, that's 553 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: that's a mouthful that I see Chivis Kelsey and you. 554 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: And one of the things that he said back to 555 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: me was, look, I studied tight end. This is what 556 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: I do. I really kind of dive in and I 557 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: study tight ends. There are actually a couple of different 558 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: guys that he mentioned that he watches to pattern his game. 559 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: After Yeah, I mean I study tight ends. I watch 560 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: every single one that I hear about and I study, 561 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: and I see what they do well, and I try 562 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: to do the things that they do well, and that's 563 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: something helping in my game. So there you go a 564 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: lot of sound from today's press conference after OTA number five, 565 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: our second opportunity to see the team in action. We'll 566 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: have another opportunity next week, and then minicamp the week 567 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: after that, and then the desert, as Mark affectionately calls it, 568 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: the time frame when coaches and players are all out 569 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: of the building and we get ready for training camp. 570 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I like the desert because to me, when that's over, 571 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: training camp is here. It's coming soon, people, It's coming 572 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: sooner than you think, coming sooner than you think. Now, 573 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: it's one hundred anniversary for the NFL this year, and 574 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: teams shot out the league are doing a celebration using 575 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: a number one hundred. So we figured we get involved 576 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: as well, and we came up with a feature that 577 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: we're calling the Texans Top one hundred Moments, not only 578 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: on the field, but off the field. What we've done 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: in the community with charity endeavors anything and everything related 580 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to the Texans fall into this category. True. Dorty and 581 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I on our end of lap podcast decided that well, 582 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: we were gonna go in the wayback machine and talk 583 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: about a few of our favorite moments and whether they 584 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: should make the Texans Top one hundred Moments. We'll do 585 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: that next right here in Texas All Access. One final 586 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: segment of Texas All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. 587 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris. Glad to be with 588 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: you on this Wednesday evening, A beautiful evening. No matter 589 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: where you are, hopefully you all are safe and sound 590 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: or there was some bad weather that's been going through Oklahoma, 591 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: I think on into the Panhandle, so you guys be safe. 592 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: We're thinking about y'all. I know I got some friends 593 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: up in Tulsa. I know they've been going through it. 594 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: So you guys all stay safe. At this time of year, 595 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I know it's been really, really tough. I think we've 596 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: had tornadoes in the US for twelve eight days and 597 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy. So you guys in the Midwest, 598 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: you guys take care of yourself now. I mentioned in 599 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: the last segment that we are this year it's one 600 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: hundredth anniversary of the NFL, and so teams are engaging 601 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: in Top one hundred moments, players all that kind of stuff. 602 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: So we decided to get involved with our own, calling 603 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: it Texans Top one hundred Moments, and Drew, Dorry and 604 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I just on our end of Lap podcast, decided to 605 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: talk about some that matter to us that we think 606 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: will be in this one hundred, that we'd like to 607 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: see in the one hundred, and it sort of merged 608 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: into interlap storytime. Hope you enjoy. Here's Drew and I 609 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: in Lap today. We're talking about a few and this 610 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: is here. Let me set the parameters. It's gonna be 611 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: our remembrance, our personal experience of a few Texans Top 612 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: one hundred moments. What what's a Texans Top one hundred moment? 613 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh well, friends, glad you asked here. Pretty soon, in 614 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the next week or so, we'll be one hundred days 615 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: away from the season opener, right Monday Night football. It 616 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: gets the Saints. And so to celebrate that, in union 617 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: with the hundredth anniversary of the league, the NFL, we're 618 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a countdown of sorts, you know, one hundred 619 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: moments in Texans history. Now, it's kind of a nebulous thing. 620 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: It's just top moments you know, we're not saying it's 621 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: a definitive ranking my best great ist. Just you know, 622 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: you're right, it's not really it, right, It's just these 623 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: were moments that happened that we think were worthy of celebration. 624 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: And since it's one hundredth year anniversary of the NFL, 625 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: come up with a hundred. Look we've been we've been 626 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: an organization since too, well even before that, because I 627 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: would imagine one of the moments, if not very very 628 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: high on the list, yeah, happened before any of the 629 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: football was played, before the Texans name was came into existence. U, 630 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: there were moments before that. So it covers everything you 631 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: might see on this list. You might see the celebration 632 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: of community events, the celebration of Salute the Service Day, 633 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: which was one of the uh weird I think. I 634 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: think Bob McNair was the first owner who had come 635 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: up with that, and it was taken over by the 636 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: NFL to salute our servicemen. It's kind of all encompasses, right, 637 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: So it covers everything. It's mainly football. I mean, we're 638 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: not gonna go overboard. Well, yeah, it's all connected. You know, 639 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: forty five of those, you know, it's gonna be mainly 640 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: football things. We'll sprinkle in a few stuff like you're 641 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: talking about it. But what I want to start with, 642 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to reveal where on the list 643 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: it is, but I'm gonna go with the Hopkins touchdown 644 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: catch at Cincinnati on Monday Night football in twenty fifteen. 645 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Texans went into that game. They were underwater. Man, they 646 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: were struggling. Two and five. I believe it was there 647 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: were three and five, because it two and five going 648 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: into the Tennessee game right before the break, Okay, And 649 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: what I remember about that Tennessee game was Whitney going off. 650 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: Whitney had like three and a half sacks that day 651 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: and just sack Zach Mettenberger. All right, I mean it 652 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: was let's not get into that. Guy is the three 653 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: and five. That guys the three and five. So the 654 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Texas are still they're they're still under five hundred by 655 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: quite a bit. Bengals are undefeated. It's about mid season, 656 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: and we weren't the Texas. We're not supposed to win 657 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: this game, not at all. But then what happens, John, 658 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: tell me about what you saw? Well, I was, I 659 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: just remember there's so many different things about that game. 660 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: But I remember, I remember Brian Hoyer sliding. We were down, 661 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: we were uh, we were down six to nothing and 662 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer on a third quarter drive is a good drive. 663 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: And Hoyer got a drive going, but on on a 664 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: scramble he slid, and when he slid, he got hit 665 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: and he popped right back up and went back to 666 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: the huddle and finished the drive. We kicked the field goal, 667 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: made it six to three, and next thing I know, 668 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: Lawyer's going into the locker room and I'm thinking, oh 669 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: my god. The next guy on the list is t 670 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: J Yates, and TJ had been in the had been 671 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: back in the building for what three weeks maybe at 672 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: that point he had the bye week. I remember that. 673 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I remember he had the bye weeks, so he'd maybe 674 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: been in three weeks because Mallet had been discarded. Yeah, 675 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Mault had been discarded and TJ had come along. So yeah, 676 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: you're right, so Mallett was gone. That was after the 677 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: Miami game. That's when we went to two and five. 678 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: So he had been back for like three weeks. Now. 679 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: He had had some experience with it before because he 680 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: had been in training camp with the Texans while Bill 681 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Lebriant was here. I'll never forget his first throw. They 682 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: ran a little mini boot and he rolls to the 683 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: right and I swear to you he threw the ball. 684 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: It was about a ten yard throw and he threw 685 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: the ball five yards just as the dirt and I 686 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: just remember, I remember, you know, I'm always in que 687 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: with Mark and so I can. That's become one of 688 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: my favorite things to do, is I try and make 689 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: them crack up if I can while they're talking. And 690 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: I did that last year in a Dallas game. I 691 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: get that in a second, but I just was like, 692 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: oh God. And that's all I said, was like okay, 693 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: and then it was like this is gonna be a disaster. Well, 694 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: then on the third down, he hit a big throw 695 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: to Ryan Griffin for a first down and moved him down. 696 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: And then I don't think they scored in that drive, 697 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: but they moved it well enough that they got the 698 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: ball back in the fourth quarter. And so they were 699 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: in man coverage, single safety high and hop is right 700 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: next to me. He's got pac Man Jones one on one. 701 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: And this was before teams were really putting and devoting 702 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: two guys to Hopkins. They should have done it before, 703 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: but Hop runs he runs by his breakout year by 704 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: the way he runs by me, and I could just 705 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: tell by the coverage. I knew where TJ was going. 706 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: So when TJ backed up, he's holding the safety of 707 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: his eyes and his Hop runs by me. I was like, 708 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: go get it, Hop because I knew it was to him. 709 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: And then Yates just lofts it and I just see 710 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: this ball going over and you see it. There's a 711 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: picture of me, and I'm just like looking at the ball, 712 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: and Hot makes this catch, And what was fascinating was 713 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: my angle. I remember they reviewed it because they want 714 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: to see where they got both feet down. What's fascinating 715 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: about that catch was when he makes the catch, he 716 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: kind of crails against his body. When he was getting 717 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: his feet down in bounds. His right foot was behind 718 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: his left, so he'd gotten his left in bounds. But 719 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: when he went to go put his right down, he 720 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: clicked it on his left heel and it was like, 721 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: oh no, he's not gonna get it down, And then 722 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: he was able to that slowed his foot down, and 723 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: so he's able to then just pop it back down 724 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: and get the right toe and bounds and make the catch, 725 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: and I happened to see that he's a wizard with stuff. 726 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: I saw that perfectly from like mediu way. I was 727 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: not far away. It was maybe five seven yards away, 728 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: and I saw that. So Mark throws it down at 729 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: me like I was in the mosh pit with the players. 730 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: So what happens on Monday Night football is they've got 731 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: two rolling cameras on Monday at football when you're on 732 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the road and there's not a money at the game, 733 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: like I have all kinds of room in the sidelines, 734 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: like you know what was like, there's all kinds of 735 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: room Monday night football, They've got these the rolling cameras 736 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: on both sides. So there was a rolling camera like 737 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: down on the goal line. So when Hot makes the catch, 738 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: I go nuts, and so I started kind of going 739 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: down like I'm celebrating. So I'm looking back at like 740 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: at the sidelines, and then I look back and that 741 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: rolling thing is like I'm like right up against it, 742 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: like I can't I can't really move, and all the 743 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: players are coming like into me. So there's like this 744 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: big mosh bit and I'm literally like right in the 745 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: middle of it, and I'm just going nuts, and I'm 746 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: like oh my gosh. And so I'm freaking out and 747 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: Mark throws it down to me and I'm like, oh 748 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: my god, I've just like I've lost my voice. I 749 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: don't know what to say. And then I remember, oh 750 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: my god, I saw him get his feeding bounds, and 751 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: so I was able to like transition into that and 752 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: say he definitely got his feeding bounds. This is what 753 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: I was. I was five yards away. I tell the 754 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: story about how I saw click his feet and bounce. 755 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Got in the locker room after the game, and it 756 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: was it was such a loud it was such a 757 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: joyous locker room. It was really cool, and I was 758 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: I was kind of going up and shaking hands to 759 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: everybody for the media got in there and I got 760 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: to Dwayne Brown Never Forget, and Dwayne smiled and he 761 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: looked at me. He goes, I saw you, bro, And 762 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: I was like what, He goes, I saw you celebrating 763 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: with us. I was like, oh man, I'm so suchaues no, no, dude, 764 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: that was really cool. And I was like, dude, I 765 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: got trapped in there and like, oh you guys like 766 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: ended up like kind of pinning me up against the 767 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: camera basically, and he goes No, dude, I thought it 768 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: was really cool that you were in there. So I 769 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: think it was interesting because me, Dwayne I had a 770 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: really good relationship years after I had my little freak 771 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: out about him being drafted. But I think that moment 772 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: was kind of like this dude really wants us to win, 773 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: like he wants us to win. He's all for us, 774 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: and so I think that probably resonated with him. But 775 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: that was the one that I remember that distinctly because 776 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: I was able to see that so clearly. It was 777 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: fun because you mentioned how that they were a few 778 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: games under five hundred, but two of those losses had 779 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: come in the month before, in a two three weeks 780 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: span brutal at Miami at Atlanta where they just got 781 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: carpet bombed. I mean they lost something like eighty something 782 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: to So I was you talked about being in the 783 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: locker room. I was. It felt a lot like in 784 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: the situation was totally different, but it felt and there 785 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: were so many similarities to the playoff win excuse me, 786 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: the wind to get into the playoffs that had happened 787 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: four years prior to twenty eleven, YEA, and the same 788 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: sort of reactions as these guys were coming off the 789 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: field and running into the locker room. I was in 790 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: the same spot both times, and it was just kind 791 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: of an incredulity, uh A wonder And it was really 792 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: fun to see that because it was so similar. And 793 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: both times t J. Yates was the guy under center, 794 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 1: and they were both and neither one of them made 795 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: sense that he was under Neither time made sense. You're right, 796 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: and it was. It was just such a fun, fun night. 797 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: And it's it's funny how they've had that situation with 798 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati throughout the years, because then you do the thing 799 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson twenty seventeen. I mean, Texans were down, man, 800 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: they had gotten killed the week before, four days before 801 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: by Jacksonville, and now you're starting to Shaun Watson. He 802 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have any tight ends. I mean you're having a 803 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: play guy like offensive lineman at tight end. And he 804 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: had that run and ever since, I've never doubted him. 805 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: He came into that game in twenty seventeen, he was 806 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: he gets on the bus, he's wearing sunglasses, a tuxedo. 807 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: It's a birthday. But since Natty trips have been I've 808 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: been pretty pretty memorable. They've always been fun. Okay, Texans 809 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: won there in O nine. This is my experiences. Yep, 810 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: they won their A O nine. They won their in eleven, 811 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: such a big one there in fifteen, they won their 812 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: in seventeen. They've all they've all been fun trips. Yeah, 813 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: they've all been yeah, really good trips. I regret that 814 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: I didn't make that that twenty e love wish I 815 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: would have been on the silence for that because that 816 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: was about to get to the playoffs for the first time. 817 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about though. And they they led 818 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: that game for two seconds. It was the final two secons. 819 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: It's the only time they led in that entire game. 820 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: They were down in it. They're kind of It was 821 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: a comfortable lead for for Cincinnati, and it was late 822 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: in the season, and for some reason, Cincinnati did not 823 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: sell that game out. There were a lot of empty seats. 824 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: It was a gorgeous, chilly day. It was cold, but 825 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't awful, but it was sunny. And I remember 826 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: I went to I always leave with about six seven 827 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: minutes to go in the game from the press box, 828 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: come down to the field, and you know me, I'm 829 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: semi superstitious. Even though it doesn't matter on the outcome. 830 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: So I come down to the field and that that 831 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: final drive starts and I'm about at the twenty and 832 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: they get the ball. They start marching down the field 833 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: and I just stay in the same spot. So I 834 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: kind of have this odd perspective. The throw that TJ 835 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: made to Owen Daniels and the catch Owen Daniels made, 836 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: it's a one handed grab. My vantage point of it 837 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: it was it was an amazing catch by OD because 838 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: it was a one handed grab. He's in traffic, he's 839 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: got a guy draped all over him. I mean, he 840 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: hauls it in and it was so bang bang because 841 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: it was a two minute drive that there wasn't a 842 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: lot of replays on it, but the image I was 843 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: looking right up the field at it. It was such 844 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: a great catch. And then TJ has the run where 845 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: he kind of he looks like a drunk guy at 846 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: times in that run and he scrambles gets the first down, 847 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: and the whole time the crowd keeps getting loud, and 848 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: then he keeps silencing him because like he keeps they 849 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: keep making plays. Right, they get a PI. Jacoby Jones 850 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: draws a PI that gets him in position, and then 851 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: it's funny. I've got the picture of the touchdown up 852 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: on my office wall and a couple of different versions 853 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: of it. TJ came into my office about a month 854 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: or two ago. He was he saw that and he's like, 855 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, on the throw before, that should have been 856 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: a pick six the other way and it should have 857 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: killed us. He was throwing to the right side, and 858 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: he said, right as he was unleashing, he slipped and 859 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: the ball did what you talked about and did the 860 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: you groaned into the queue. Yeah, it skipped away. You know, 861 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: it hit the dirt before. But he said, had had 862 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: he thrown it, thrown it the way it should have 863 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: been thrown, patn and Jones would have taken it six 864 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: the other way. So that happens, and then he hits 865 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Walter for the touchdown, and it was just it was 866 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: so weird how it would roar and get quiet, roar 867 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: and get quiet. It was. It ebbed and flowed and 868 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: they didn't even have a full crowd there. And then 869 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: the Texans go in. They watched Drew Brees and the 870 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: Saints take care of the Titans to fully clinch it. 871 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: It was a fun day. It was a fun time. 872 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: If There's one moment I wish I had been on 873 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: the sidelines for, Actually wish I would have been in 874 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: the locker room. It was that one the twenty eleven 875 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: that went over Cincinnati. There have been some great wins 876 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: since then, but that one over Cincinnati is one I 877 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: wish I would have been in the locker room for 878 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: it to be there for the first time and they 879 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: had done it with TJ and the way that they 880 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: did it, I mean it is. It's funny how t 881 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: J Yates, assistant football coach for this team now, is 882 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: involved in so many of those those moments. And there's 883 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: more too. Our in Lab podcasts. You want to go 884 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: check it out, go to our app Houston Texas dot Com, 885 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: go to our Twitter. However, you know how to get 886 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: it and get it you guys probably know better than 887 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I do, but go check out in the Lab podcast. 888 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: We had a really good time with that one, and 889 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: we've had some really good ones lately, so go check 890 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: it out. Drew Doherty and I are in the Lab. 891 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being here tonight. Got to thank the 892 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: players and coaches who all contributed sound from Today to 893 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: Mark to Drew, all of you listening. Thank you so much, 894 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.