1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: nor with you along with Stephen Kate's doctor Sky. We're 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: going to chat with him for a little bit about 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: this December asteroid. There seems to be some concern about it, 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: but it's going to miss us by a while, Stephen, 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: won't it? Absolutely, George. They're saying two point four million miles, 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: which in astronomy, even though that seems like a big 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: number too many, it's a safe distance as opposed to 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the asteroid that I just described before. And the problem 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: here is, and it's I guess a universal problem until 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: we can get better detention systems. How about that asteroid, 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: George that passed us, like I said, on October to 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, within eighteen hundred miles. Even if it's 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: as small as a refrigerator, the point is it was 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: discovered four hours after that's right, when they've already gotten 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: has gone past us disease. Absolutely, So what about something larger? 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: And for people out there curious about this, George about well, 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: maybe people may scratch in their head saying, well, why 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: can't they find these things, these particular asteroids are coming 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: from let's say, behind the sun. So in other words, 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: as we're looking in the daylight sky, let's say the 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: object is coming and sneaking up behind the sun. So 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: it's almost and I can't say impossible, but it's extremely 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: difficult for detection systems at least now, unless we have 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: something positioned out in space. And maybe there's some hope 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: that the Hubble space not the Hubble, but excive that 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the James Web Telescope, once it's deployed, might be able 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: to give us, who knows, maybe even a better warning, 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: but its purpose is a little different. Well, I gotta 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: tell you, Stephen, this is incredible now in your opinion, 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: what are asteroids anyways? How are they formed? What are they? 33 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Are they planets that are blown up or rocks that 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: have just never accumulated with other rocks. What are they? Well, 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: it's more likely towards that they never coalesced into a planet, 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: because when this whole proto Solar system formed about four 37 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: and a half billion years ago, many of the speculation 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: is out there. And I always had a hard time 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: in school understanding this concept. When you have objects that 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: form into planets, they say, over billions of years, gravitational 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: pressure and friction causes the thing to solidify. Well, what 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: these objects are in space are just debris that may 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: be never formulated, or one theory could be that it 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: was smacked by something even larger. And that asteroid belt, 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: as most people know from basic one to one astronomy, 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: is between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter for the 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: most part. So these asteroids that we're talking about now, 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: particularly this one nineteen eighty two dB or otherwise known 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: and its other stage name is forty six sixteen areas. 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: It's one of the asteroid groups called one of the 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Apollo asteroids, So do not make this too complicated. There's 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: semi major axis of their orbit, there's some many major 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: orbit is actually greater than that of the Earth. So 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: what they do is they're swinging out beyond the Earth 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: and coming in near the Earth's orbit. One of many 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: types of asteroids, but simply George asteroids are probably remnants 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: of the Solar System creation that never formulated into planets, 58 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: and the largest one we know of is another of 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: the duar objects called series spelled ce Ris, probably about 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: the size of the state of Texas and it's one 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: of the most strange, one of the strangest objects in 62 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: my opinion, because its spherical as opposed to many of 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: these objects that looked like they're jagged and rough edge 64 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: like a potato. Now, the object that wiped out the 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: dinosaurs dinosaurs that was about what six kilometers which was 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: six but some say five to southern kilometers. And of 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: course this event happened twice in geologic history. A lot 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: of people think it just happened one sixty five million 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: years ago. It's thought very scientifically that this happened once before, 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: even another time period before that. But the one that 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: caused this chixeloupe event that they call it in the 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: area of the Gulf of Mexico is an object that 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: was probably about that size, and its impact was obviously 74 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a global killer for the most part. I mean, I 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: imagine how the dinosaurs must have felt then. But the 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Earth was hit and the strange description that people have 77 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: described about this event was nobody was there to do 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: it was that what happened was when it actually it 79 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: actually shattered and ripped the part of sky, but it 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: actually sucked up the atmosphere and everything with it and 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: formulated this big dark cloud around the earth for who 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: knows how long it lasted, but simply we know vegetation, 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: animal life ceased to exist from just an object that 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: was maybe five to seven kilometers and thoughts. There was 85 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: an object a few years ago over a Russia that 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: kind of blew up before. It didn't hit the ground, 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: but it blew up in the atmosphere. But a lot 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: of people were injured because of that concussion. Absolutely, and 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: that's the Chixeloup event that we're talking about. No, that 90 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: was the Chilibenzk event. Excuse me, I guess it was 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: the Cheliobenzk event. And this happened, as we know, back 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. And what's amazing about it, George, is 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: that the object was sixty six aged sixty six feet 94 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: in diameter. And the story about how people went to 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the hospital were injured, it was not from the debris. 96 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: It was from the actual sonic boom an explosion that 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: this object caused. So even an object sixty six feet 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: in diameter, nicol iron or stony iron or stony material 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: caused that much damage. And we know here in Arizona, 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the great tourist attraction is still and I love it 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: every time I go there, and I'm sure people have 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: seen it, or we'll see it as the Great Arizona 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: meteor crater that was allegedly formed fifty thousand years ago 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: by an object. Now I'll get a look of this, folks, 105 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: and George, some two hundred feet in diameter, causing at 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: least a mileish or so crater here on the Earth. 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: And it's still one of the freshest craters that we 108 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: can actually study, and there's a lot of story about that. 109 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: It's just an amazing site from something two hundred feet 110 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: allegedly across Steve. Does gravity pull in asteroids too, Absolutely, 111 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: and one of the things we should be grateful for 112 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: when you go outside at night. And as I mentioned 113 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: always in our Live Sky edition here to give men. 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: By the way, people tell me, George that they love 115 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: that part of this report because it's stuff you can 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: actually see, because obviously there's so much science out there. 117 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: I wish we had more time, but I'm grateful for 118 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the time we have now. But yes, gravity is a 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: main thing as far as what happens with these asteroids, 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: the gravitational force of not only the Sun, but mentioning Jupiter, Jupiter, 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: if it were not there. Many astronomers simply believe in 122 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: scientists know that Jupiter is like this great magnet for objects. 123 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: So gravity, of course does affect it. And within the 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: last year or two, George and visually, I know some 125 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: people around the world that have video cameras when they're 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: observing Jupiter in the telescope, and what they see, or 127 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: what they saw is very infrequent, is large flashes that 128 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: happen on the surface of the cloud top. So what's 129 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: happening is Jupiter's like a giant vacuum cleaner, and we 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: should be grateful for it. But let's keep it far 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: enough away. It's over four hundred million miles away now. 132 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: But obviously if we were to get close to it, 133 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: as we would say the Moon, it's intense gravity and 134 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it's intense radiation would obviously make us not have a 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: good day. It is amazing. It really is. The Tunguska 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Blast of nineteen oh eight. Why is it everything happens 137 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: over Russia? Well, I guess because here's a simple answer. 138 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: It's so large, and if it has one I'm not 139 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: sure of this, but what ten or twelve time zones. 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: That's pretty big, And obviously we just got off daylight 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: saving time for a good part of the United States, 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: except for Arizona, of course. But here, George, this is 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: something interesting. That event June thirtieth, nineteen oh eight still 144 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: goes down in the record book is one of the 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: most amazing event of all time. It's theoretically could be 146 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: a chunk of a comet. Some thought comet inky, some 147 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: thought even in the most bizarre explanation, but I can't 148 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: rule it out that it was an interplanetary spacecraft that 149 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I think exploded over the Earth. Who knows, but from 150 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the asteroid section in astronomy, that event level tree is 151 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: about the size of the state of Connecticut. And it 152 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: wasn't until the nineteen twenties that somebody actually went there 153 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: a scientific expedition, and they looked and they saw this 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: amazing destruction from an object that didn't hit the Earth, George, 155 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: but it did. It was an air burst like that 156 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: of a nuclear weapon. And who knows on the megaton 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: scale how big it was, but probably bigger or larger 158 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: than Russia's largest event in its atmospheric test called Zarbomba, 159 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: which supposedly was one hundred megaton explosion. These things, obviously 160 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: we hope don't happen in our near future. But I 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: know there's a movie coming out. I think it's I'm 162 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: trying to think of it is Leonardo DiCaprio. It's about 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know the title, forgive me, folks in George, 164 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: but it's something about look at the sky, and it's 165 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: about an obvious comet or asteroid that comes to strength 166 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: the Earth. Here we go again, right, what did you 167 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: think of the movie with Bruce Willis where he was 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: on an asteroid and stayed to blow it up to 169 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: save the planet. Well, I thought he did a great job. 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: But it's all in the fi world. But I mean, 171 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: is that conceivable? Well it let me say this. I 172 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: don't believe truly that we could stand on the surface 173 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: of an asteroid comet for a long time, but I 174 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: think they got it right, particularly with the comet, because 175 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: here we go, this thing was venting gases, and I 176 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: remember going back in my time tunnel that if you 177 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: look at the surface of one of these objects, you 178 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: see him standing on a thing that looks like it 179 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: as Geyser's. I don't think we could conceivably stand there, 180 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: So it's probably going to have to be some sort 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: of robotic craft, and they're describing this. I mean you've 182 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you've heard this, I'm sure a million times, George, that 183 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,359 Speaker 1: they even have the concept now of using nuclear warheads 184 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: to do deflection, and years ago that was considered to 185 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: be one of the most ludicrous concepts. And again, the 186 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: theory about not doing it, or the reason not to 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: do it, is you blow something up like that and 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: you create a whole lot of chilly bink and a 189 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of other things, maybe like the Tunguska event coming 190 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: from a singular object. By destroying it, you're probably asking 191 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: for a lot more trouble. But simply to answer your question, 192 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: I thought the movie was great, But that's something that 193 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: maybe in the next twenty or thirty years we might 194 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: be able to do. But I don't think right yet. 195 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Well can you imagine what would happen? Oh my gosh, 196 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: if you're right, if they blew up an asteroid and 197 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: we had thousands of sixty six feet two mile pieces 198 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: coming our way. Well, George, there's another theoretical thing. And 199 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to scare people out there. It's never 200 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: my mission and never yours. We just want to inform them. 201 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: But imagine this let's say an object the size of 202 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: let's say the much smaller than Chizeloube the great sixty 203 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: five million year ago event. Let's say we had an 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: object maybe larger than the Chilubinsk event, maybe bigger than Tunguska, 205 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: and it actually struck the Moon. Now, from astronomers and skywatchers, 206 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: that'd be one hell of a view because you'd see 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: this material just hit the surface of the Moon. But 208 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: look at all that residual material that would be heading 209 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: our way too. So we're lucky that the Moon hasn't 210 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: been hit or an object like the Earth. That's frequently 211 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: because obviously the Moon has minimal, minimalist atmosphere, if you 212 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: want to call it at all. It is a tiny, 213 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: tiny atmosphere, hardly nexibly measurable. But the Earth obviously with 214 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: its atmosphere, has protected us from some of the smaller events. 215 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: But that would be pretty catastrophic too. An object striking 216 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the lunar surface, you would put on a great sky show. 217 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: But then hold on, folks, hold onto your hat, because 218 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: the residual debris would be coming probably within a day, 219 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: maybe even shorter than that, headed our direction. Listen to 220 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: more coast to coast AM every weeknight at one am 221 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Eastern and go to coast to coast am dot com 222 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: for more