Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 2: What do you know?
Speaker 3: God's Country with Reed also known as The Brothers. So
Speaker 3: we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country
Speaker 3: music and the outdoors, two things that go together like
Speaker 3: Liver mush in North Carolina, Up Mortals.
Speaker 1: Or forty HP and Flash by the Mittle Boots produced
Speaker 1: by Meat in Our Heart.
Speaker 2: Podcast, We're gonna sit down with LC mister Luke.
Speaker 1: Coombe Luke Liver Mush Comb.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be I'm not really sure how it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Go because I think it's gonna be annoying.
Speaker 2: We we can be annoying when us three get together.
Speaker 1: Just the rabbit holes get so deep with this guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We do.
Speaker 3: We just like to talk, man, and when we when
Speaker 3: we get off on something, we just it's a tangent
Speaker 3: and we we just go and go and go.
Speaker 1: And so he's accomplished a whole lot in his life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there ain't no introduction for that cab the game.
Speaker 1: He's got kids that are cool, his wife's cool.
Speaker 3: He's a line on the mic. Dude, he's a he's
Speaker 3: a vocal monster. He's our good buddy. You know, one
Speaker 3: of our best friends in town. I think I think
Speaker 3: we'll really enjoy talking to him sitting down. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be a different environment than than what we're used.
Speaker 1: To, and you really enjoy listening to it. And if
Speaker 1: you don't, we're real sorry about that. You can cut
Speaker 1: it off. That's right, stick with us. You're in God's country, baby,
Speaker 1: stick around.
Speaker 2: I got a brother.
Speaker 3: This is like, this is more than a family pod today,
Speaker 3: this is a brother pod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, we got our boy, Luke.
Speaker 1: We're gonna work real hard. I'm not telling them much
Speaker 1: of the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan's got Dan makes nicknames on the show, so.
Speaker 4: Luke, Liver, mush Combs, Zero actually puts them in the
Speaker 4: This Morning the Barro.
Speaker 3: You should you should have brought him. No, I know
Speaker 3: you got the niece's hat on Jordans.
Speaker 2: Literally liverdude, let's got that just sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1: I stepped out of my comfort zone and tried that.
Speaker 3: Jordan went to how many grocery stores? She went to
Speaker 3: four grocery stores just today looking for it around. Can't
Speaker 3: get it, That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: I can't get it. Man. It's North Carolina only to.
Speaker 1: North Carolina only. It's not like, uh, it's the region.
Speaker 1: It's like state specific.
Speaker 3: Here's what we're gonna do, right quick. We were gonna
Speaker 3: do like a hot plate and then cook some livermash
Speaker 3: while we were potting.
Speaker 1: You should have told me I could have brought some.
Speaker 1: Is the surprise? I got bricks at the house. Bricks hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: freezing dude.
Speaker 2: What is liver pudding? It's okay, I've had liver much.
Speaker 2: I had liver much with liver liver pudding very very similar.
Speaker 2: One has a bit more corn meal, one has a
Speaker 2: bit less corn meal. Which do you like better?
Speaker 1: But which has which tell us.
Speaker 2: That liver pudding has more liver than corn meal. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's listen.
Speaker 1: I thought there wasn't a grosser word than liver.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that you were gonna have liver mush
Speaker 2: because I just wore this hat.
Speaker 1: Because I just wear this hat. Liver pudding is a
Speaker 1: grosser combination.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you about this. You don't like it,
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Those people don't look at it. It
Speaker 2: just like it's fine. It's like kind of like it's
Speaker 2: kind of similar to a saut. It has a it
Speaker 2: has a marketing problem. Okay, yeah, I agree. If it
Speaker 2: was called breakfast delight, you'd be like, that sounds pretty.
Speaker 2: I would try that.
Speaker 1: I like breakfast delight, that sounds good.
Speaker 2: Even trying some liver mush, They're.
Speaker 1: Like they already don't want it out. They already already already.
Speaker 2: Shouts out to if your liver mush out there, holler
Speaker 2: at your boyfriend name.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what be a good name. What would Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's without breakfast delight is to it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 2: I got to go. I feel like even liver has
Speaker 2: got to be out, no doubt deliver all right.
Speaker 1: So let's what what's another word for? Let's let's co
Speaker 1: write this, like, give me some of the name of
Speaker 1: words for liver. I feel like loaf is out, loafs
Speaker 1: out the like because I was.
Speaker 2: Thinking, like, skill it loaf. Skill its not bad. Skill
Speaker 2: it's getting there. Skill it does it crisp at all?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, crispy skill it skill it crisp skill it
Speaker 1: crisp is getting.
Speaker 2: It's getting But you got to know what you have
Speaker 2: no clue what a skill?
Speaker 1: It crisp is, right, and not until you define what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: But you won't go. You're not going to the being like,
Speaker 3: hey man, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2: You wouldn't need it?
Speaker 1: If sausage what's called butt fat, you wouldn't just which
Speaker 1: is which is what? It? Lips and butt fat?
Speaker 2: This stuff that was too gross to go on hot dogs.
Speaker 2: If it was called that intestinal fat. I've never et
Speaker 2: intestinal grease fat. You would never eat butt fat, never will.
Speaker 1: If you eat Timmy sausage. That's exactly what you had.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff that fell on the floor. So skill
Speaker 1: it crisp, skill it criss a great alternative. Skill it
Speaker 1: crisp nieces skill it crisp. That's that's fried up. Give
Speaker 1: me a biscuits and gravy and.
Speaker 4: Put that little skill it crisps like a good morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good breakfast sandwich even like cornmeal mash would sound
Speaker 2: a lot better.
Speaker 1: Is better? Like only one letter away from bush, only
Speaker 1: one letter, but but the one likely different content.
Speaker 2: It's it's and and butt in the song can make
Speaker 2: a whole difference, you say and instead of butt or
Speaker 2: butt and.
Speaker 1: For sure, So you get started on skill it crisp.
Speaker 2: On skill crisp. I grew up in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I mean it it is breakfast? Right is breakfast?
Speaker 3: Is that like part of your Like when I think
Speaker 3: of my childhood breakfast, I think that that is that
Speaker 3: is something that is on your plate every morning.
Speaker 2: There's a town in North Carolina. I don't want to speak,
Speaker 2: but there's a town in Carolina that has a that
Speaker 2: has a liver Mush festival.
Speaker 1: It's that popular. Why have we not been to that?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That sounds like why am I not headlining it?
Speaker 2: Who does?
Speaker 1: Well? I know who.
Speaker 2: Headlines that thing? They have they can't affordsh.
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If there's like a mascot, you should be Skillet Crisp festival.
Speaker 2: They need a mascot. Just you know. I have a
Speaker 2: hat I almost wore that. It's it's an old.
Speaker 1: Country I know them all.
Speaker 2: George Jones country style sausage. So what you're saying is
Speaker 2: we need to Luke comb skill It Crisp.
Speaker 1: I will buy into half of that company.
Speaker 3: I think you just go with liver Mush at that point. No,
Speaker 3: liver Mush that sounds way better than Luke Combs skill
Speaker 3: It Crisp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't want to eat I don't want
Speaker 1: to eat liver much. I want to eat skillet Crisp.
Speaker 2: And liver mash doesn't sound good either.
Speaker 1: That's just that's out. It's the visual rn the mashing
Speaker 1: of the liver.
Speaker 2: What about eris is just sausage? Are you familiar with
Speaker 2: with scrapple?
Speaker 1: No? You told me about this here?
Speaker 2: Anybody scrap is that the drink? Snapple? That Snapple scrapple
Speaker 2: is very scrappley?
Speaker 1: What is? It's a it's very similar to Can I
Speaker 1: just say what it is? What it sounds like to me?
Speaker 1: The scraps left over from the butcher of sound? Ain't that?
Speaker 5: I know?
Speaker 1: The sausage sounds clean. What if you call it liver sausage?
Speaker 1: Better than it feels blood sausage that already exists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to eat that because it's gas. I
Speaker 1: know where we have that England. Yeah, it's good. It
Speaker 1: is good Kingdom. It's a little rich rich. You can't
Speaker 1: just like I can knock sausage back. Dude, give me three.
Speaker 3: That saus that your neighbor makes is Timmy sausage, elite,
Speaker 3: shout out Timmy, Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sausage is gas.
Speaker 2: You had Benton's Minton's bacon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe I'm a right skuy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to be connect, Like, connecta.
Speaker 1: Sausage, connecta sauce.
Speaker 2: It is fire. It is so far.
Speaker 1: That's a South Alabama.
Speaker 2: That's some of the best sausage.
Speaker 1: Lesson.
Speaker 3: It's like, but it's in grocery stores up here, and
Speaker 3: it is some of If I'm grabbing a link style
Speaker 3: sausage from the grocery store, connect every time.
Speaker 1: I'm grilling burgers, steaks or something and I passed by.
Speaker 2: That, it's a little pree there.
Speaker 1: You're getting it hot and spicy. There's got a hot
Speaker 1: and spicy, which is like a smaller Lincoln. Then they
Speaker 1: got their original, which is the big one.
Speaker 2: Here's this is a tangent off of what you just said.
Speaker 1: We're already tanged.
Speaker 2: There is no hot and spicy sausage that exists in
Speaker 2: a grocery store that's hot.
Speaker 1: And spicy enough.
Speaker 2: Like when I buy hot sausage, I taste them like,
Speaker 2: this isn't.
Speaker 1: Hot, Okay, Timmy sausage is the hot, the hottest. It's
Speaker 1: the hot version of the sausage they make. But it
Speaker 1: tastes like regulars just taste any of it.
Speaker 2: Any hot sausage to me, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Who is this hot for yeah, babies hot. They don't
Speaker 1: have a palate, do There's like.
Speaker 2: One red pepper flake in the whole pound.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you get that piece, it's like there's a
Speaker 3: little taste.
Speaker 1: Of Speaking of sausage, we're coming up on turkey season,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make some turkey apple sausage. I have to
Speaker 1: that is it's so good. My favorite thing. I think
Speaker 1: that you because you genuinely like make that. Oh yeah, yeah. Ude.
Speaker 2: For all of you that don't know, Luke is a
Speaker 2: Luke's close to being a chef.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: You can you can whip it up.
Speaker 1: Probably. I'm like an eighth eight of maybe a tenth.
Speaker 2: Michelin's tenth of a Michelin star.
Speaker 3: All Right, while we're on the sausage game, walk us
Speaker 3: through a little what what what it takes to do
Speaker 3: a little turkey apple sausage?
Speaker 2: Okay, and where.
Speaker 3: Did you find out how to do it?
Speaker 2: It was a yeah, it was a Ranella meat eater.
Speaker 1: Deal gets more excited about, no doubt, acquiring turkey meat
Speaker 1: than he does the actual of the turkey. That's a
Speaker 1: reason to do it right, should it should be?
Speaker 2: You know what I don't get and people are gonna
Speaker 2: hate me for this. Sport fishing, dude, don't get.
Speaker 1: It what we're talking Like what kind of sport fishing
Speaker 1: you're talking about, like salt water sports.
Speaker 2: I catch it and I got to put it back.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. I feel that I don't want
Speaker 1: I do feel that.
Speaker 2: Why do I want to do it? Even bass fishing.
Speaker 2: I like bass fishing, but you can keep a bass,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Also, don't have to ride forty miles into
Speaker 2: the ocean, time knocking, walk into my yard.
Speaker 1: Completely this and I like it a whole lot. You're
Speaker 1: saying you don't understand a long trip out of the
Speaker 1: ocean to catch something to literally turn around and put
Speaker 1: it right back. Yes, I don't either. Don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun, but.
Speaker 2: It's not at the top of my list of outdoor activities.
Speaker 1: Agreed. Matter of fact, it's at the very.
Speaker 2: Any outdoor hunting fishing thing is high on my list.
Speaker 2: But and you guys are at this point now where
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to any hunting and fishing thing
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: To do, you can do it.
Speaker 2: You have access to s so ultimately, with anything in life,
Speaker 2: there is something that is at the bottom of the list,
Speaker 2: that's the bottom of the greed for me, and I
Speaker 2: still really like it. But with the limited amount of
Speaker 2: free time that I have. Obviously y'all have kids, and
Speaker 2: you understand, like you have this going on, you writing songs,
Speaker 2: You're doing a million other things. You got to put
Speaker 2: your energy when you're prioritized. Okay, do I want to
Speaker 2: go on this trip to go deep sea fishing? Probably not,
Speaker 2: not because it's not fun, but it's not as fun
Speaker 2: as something else that I could do with that time
Speaker 2: agreed to me, which we I mean, we do have
Speaker 2: friends that people are crazy about it, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean like, I mean, we have friends that are
Speaker 3: that are die hard turkey hunters that would rather go
Speaker 3: Neil Neil Neil Hayes would rather go catch a try
Speaker 3: to catch a marlin than he would turkey. And he
Speaker 3: is the die hard, the one of the most diehard
Speaker 3: turkey I can understand.
Speaker 2: I can understand it because it's like you're trying to
Speaker 2: find you're hunting those it's the same reason. Yeah, Neil
Speaker 2: and those boys love hunting the turkeys down there in
Speaker 2: the swamps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so elusive, dude.
Speaker 2: There's not many of them, and they're so hard to find.
Speaker 2: I think that's the joy that they find in that
Speaker 2: is it's the same deal.
Speaker 1: You've got to go out in the ocean.
Speaker 2: I mean, it covers seventy percent of the planet and
Speaker 2: find what fish.
Speaker 1: Step I love a good stuff.
Speaker 2: Seventy percent of the planet's covered in the ocean, dude,
Speaker 2: and you gotta find You're going to find not just
Speaker 2: any fish, one of the most elusive fish that exists.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I get it.
Speaker 2: It's I get I get the pursuit, but it's just
Speaker 2: I would like to go do it. I want to
Speaker 2: grow up on the water, you know. And and I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's a lot of people that love.
Speaker 1: It that didn't.
Speaker 2: But there's just something inherently like uneasy in me about
Speaker 2: I can't see the land.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It's I start freaking out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know that I've been out there
Speaker 1: with you and I've seen you.
Speaker 2: Not freaking out, but I'm just you're never like one
Speaker 2: hundred percent comfortable with what's going on.
Speaker 3: The people that sail across the world by themselves.
Speaker 1: What's happen with those people on here, dude?
Speaker 2: Or or swim it.
Speaker 1: We got turkey, Like it's Steve. Call it's one of
Speaker 1: those guys, Steve.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought coming through the door.
Speaker 1: That's what I.
Speaker 2: You'd call him, dude, But you can't call them because
Speaker 2: they're saying around the world. Yeah they don't have service.
Speaker 1: Get in touch with them, dude. How do you know
Speaker 1: they're alive? Man, it's like plus one nine plus plus
Speaker 1: minus six eight and.
Speaker 3: Like they're gonna be like, oh, wait a second, this
Speaker 3: guy's going about a podcast.
Speaker 2: Let me answer this answers. I got time over there
Speaker 2: six years when I fa back to the United States.
Speaker 1: Dude, from wherever.
Speaker 2: They do something nobody's ever done before. Let me get
Speaker 2: back to you. Yeah, you know it's been done. Now
Speaker 2: now why are we doing it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess there isn't a guy. There is a
Speaker 1: guy probably just jumped in a volcano.
Speaker 2: Probably probably we just didn't know. We just didn't know
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: But they go there's no one.
Speaker 6: That goes okay they God, I get why someone at
Speaker 6: some point would have wanted to sell the whole ocean
Speaker 6: by themselves, because no one has ever done it.
Speaker 1: Now that someone's.
Speaker 2: Done it, you're not even the first guy anymore?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing? How lonely
Speaker 1: do you want to be? Dude? How lonely do you
Speaker 1: want to be?
Speaker 2: Swim it swim it be the first. You gotta swim around.
Speaker 2: You gotta saw because you can't swim the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But also apple sausage. Don't don't lose the main. Oh,
Speaker 2: this thing is going to be a mess. This is
Speaker 2: why they were like, dude, you get everybody's like, come on,
Speaker 2: do the thing.
Speaker 1: We were not like it. I know you weren't.
Speaker 2: Were It's not people are going to be like, what
Speaker 2: is wrong with these people?
Speaker 3: By the way, this is what happened. This is just recorded.
Speaker 3: We literally have cameras and microphones in front of our faces.
Speaker 3: But this is what happens. If we were deer camp
Speaker 3: at Turkey Camp.
Speaker 2: We were being secretly recorded in a co write, it
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 1: Exactly what's happened. Well, there would be some there'ld be
Speaker 1: some other things. Well, don't be exactly maybe those would
Speaker 1: you would cuss more? I would? I think we would
Speaker 1: all cuss a lot more.
Speaker 2: Well, y'all would I think you would? You're a cusser, bro.
Speaker 2: I think mom the other day, was like, why does
Speaker 2: Dan cuss so much on the podcast?
Speaker 1: She wasn't so much.
Speaker 2: It's a problem. I'm meaning to talk to her.
Speaker 1: I don't mean.
Speaker 2: That's Randy Rand right here, the Rand upstairs.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Apple sausage? So how do
Speaker 1: you make it? I love this. You acquire the turkey, acquire.
Speaker 2: Turkey meat, which is done very The turkey actually just
Speaker 2: volunteers for.
Speaker 1: It, tribute. They go here.
Speaker 2: It regrows the meat, of course. So the turkey gobbles
Speaker 2: up to you and it hands you. It's like, I'll
Speaker 2: do it, turkey tribute.
Speaker 1: Breast opens up, grows years like crabs. Yep.
Speaker 2: Because we're not about the hunting and killing of animals.
Speaker 2: Here take your badcast. Essentially, what it is is turkey breast.
Speaker 2: One whole turkey breast. Not you know there's two obviously one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not two, just one lace. But you flay them
Speaker 3: both out, yep.
Speaker 2: And you take one of those, cut it into a little,
Speaker 2: you know, grindable pieces. And I just cut up and
Speaker 2: one pack of bacon is the fat. A lot of people,
Speaker 2: you know, when they make sausage, they're using beef fat
Speaker 2: or pork fat or whatever. So I'm just using bacon.
Speaker 2: I do that with with deer sausage, same thing, deer
Speaker 2: breakfast sausage. Just cut it with a pound of bacon.
Speaker 2: So I just you know, slice the bacon up into
Speaker 2: little pieces whatever. Everything has to be cold. If you
Speaker 2: know anything about grinding sausage, everything just yeah, it just
Speaker 2: gets to it already gums up when it's cold.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: But so you cut up an onion, maybe two apples.
Speaker 1: See that the apple is was you know, a little
Speaker 1: apple and breakfast sausages. That's a pretty common deal. Apple
Speaker 1: with bacon, Apple with smoke, bacon, turkey, chicken, apples, literally
Speaker 1: putting apple in it. That's the first time I've had
Speaker 1: apple in a sauce.
Speaker 2: You know, when you buy it from a store, there's
Speaker 2: not piece of apple because it would go, you go bad,
Speaker 2: I would imagine, right, But like, okay, what kind of apple? Like,
Speaker 2: are you honey crisp in it?
Speaker 5: Are you not?
Speaker 1: Like it was green?
Speaker 2: I remember I've done Granny Smith's out there, which is
Speaker 2: a little tart tasting. Yeah, I do a whole onion too. Apples,
Speaker 2: and then I saw te those in the skill at.
Speaker 1: First, so they're cooked. The apples apples, and we.
Speaker 2: Cooked before you grind them, so you got to do that.
Speaker 2: You gotta cool that back down, so you kind of
Speaker 2: put it on a sheet pan or whatever and it cools.
Speaker 2: You don't want it to go in there hot because
Speaker 2: I don't warm up all the meat and stuff. I
Speaker 2: just mix everything together, right, and there's some various seasonings.
Speaker 1: This recipe is somewhere on the meat eater. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's in existence.
Speaker 2: It's in a book or I think there might actually
Speaker 2: be a video of Steve making this somewhere old video.
Speaker 2: But I just take all that stuff. Do you just
Speaker 2: grind it together? I believe. Actually the media to recipe
Speaker 2: says to double grind it. I prefer the single grind.
Speaker 1: Actually, you don't want it blended too much, yeah, because
Speaker 1: then it gets the sheet almost turns into like a
Speaker 1: paste turkey mush.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have that, like it almost has more of
Speaker 2: a consistency of like when you get your you know,
Speaker 2: if you get your venison processed at it at a
Speaker 2: game place, it's more there's more pieces in a sense.
Speaker 2: It's not just like it's literally paste. It's such a
Speaker 2: gross word.
Speaker 1: Liver paste, liver paste, breast paste, you know, turkey breast
Speaker 1: past sausage is a good word.
Speaker 2: Do you link it?
Speaker 1: Do you do you think back? Do you think in
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds or the twelve hundreds, whenever sausage was invented,
Speaker 1: they were going when pigs were just a gross word.
Speaker 2: Might have sausage and said, I don't think so, because
Speaker 2: that's back then. Dude, you're eating whatever the hell you
Speaker 2: had to, and sausage probably a delicacy at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was no true I mean, they were making sausage
Speaker 2: out of necessity, right, any food I think that stayed
Speaker 2: around that you know, is enjoyed by a lot of folks.
Speaker 2: It not only made the cup, but it was I
Speaker 2: would say, liver mush. It only existed because people were poor.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Because because they went, wow, this is a delicacy. They
Speaker 2: went totally, I'm not throwing that liver out, and I
Speaker 2: got this extra corn meal.
Speaker 1: And it's edible, and we put it together.
Speaker 2: It'll it'll be palatable. And then over generations, you know,
Speaker 2: my grandma's grandma made it out of you know, they
Speaker 2: would butcher a hog or whatever and make it. And
Speaker 2: then my grandma and then when she got older, she remembered, well,
Speaker 2: we used to eat that because we had to. And
Speaker 2: then when she got older, maybe she got a good job,
Speaker 2: and she she goes, it's a taste in my childhood,
Speaker 2: and she starts making it, and her kids start eating it.
Speaker 2: And then now my mom would eat it, and that
Speaker 2: fed it to me, and now I eat it, and
Speaker 2: my son loves it.
Speaker 1: He's not two years old, he was.
Speaker 2: It's his favorite thing.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I mean that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he gets so excited when I make it. Dude.
Speaker 1: So at least we know that you're like living the
Speaker 1: living much legacy, you.
Speaker 2: Know, carrying it on, passing it on the generations of generation.
Speaker 1: If I do anything like that food wise with my kids,
Speaker 1: I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you probably don't even know you're doing it.
Speaker 1: You're doing it.
Speaker 2: You're just cooking. When you're making biscuits and gravy. They're
Speaker 2: gonna when they're older, they're gonna be like, man, my
Speaker 2: dad made the.
Speaker 1: Best biscuits and gravy. I want that.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I do it right now.
Speaker 1: Grandmother, if you could go childhood meals that, I'll take
Speaker 1: you immediately. I eat it.
Speaker 2: I mean every time I go to Dad's I eat it.
Speaker 2: He eats it way too much.
Speaker 3: But but it's it's me Moll's butter milk biscuits, buttermilk biscuits,
Speaker 3: her saw milk gravy and just sausage and bacon and
Speaker 3: scrambled eggs. And then what I do is I take
Speaker 3: the buttermilk biscuits. Been doing this since he was, I
Speaker 3: mean as long as as long as I can remember.
Speaker 3: I tear pieces of the biscuit off, put them into
Speaker 3: a plate in the middle, and then I'll do I'll
Speaker 3: do eggs, chop them up, scrambled eggs, put them on top,
Speaker 3: get bacon, crush the bacon. It goes on top, and
Speaker 3: then I will dump way too much saw mill gravy
Speaker 3: on top of that and kind of kind of do
Speaker 3: sausage on the side and make like a little breakfast
Speaker 3: salad type thing, breakfast salad, sausage gravy, I mean dressing.
Speaker 2: If you called it breakfast salad, nobody would eat it.
Speaker 2: It's liver mush.
Speaker 1: That would be breakfast salads.
Speaker 2: Like hey man, if you pulled up in the hearties
Speaker 2: sausage salad, breakfast salad, they'd be like, no one ever
Speaker 2: come at me, don't knock it till you trying to
Speaker 2: at me if you don't think that's Here's what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is that it is delicious. I know it would
Speaker 2: be delicious, but it comes back to liver. It's a
Speaker 2: marketing issue. Okay, what can you call it? Gravy? Biscuits
Speaker 2: and gravy, that's what it's called.
Speaker 3: It's already, but it's like it's it's an upgrade of
Speaker 3: that though. It's not just gravy on biscuit. It's the
Speaker 3: eggs in there.
Speaker 1: And can you stop this?
Speaker 3: Wait, if you're getting crazy, you can throw a little
Speaker 3: jelly on top. Okay, yeah, I mixed that into jelly.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 2: Folks at home, don't see I'm late.
Speaker 1: I was late on the I know you're I already
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna What are you gonna say when
Speaker 1: I say this, I was late on the gravy train.
Speaker 1: And what I mean about that, I've always been a
Speaker 1: large human. I'm not saying I was late to beat
Speaker 1: to that because I know that's where you're heading.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't always eat gravy.
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember you eating gray like I was.
Speaker 1: Just keep my stuff. I want my sausage crispy. I
Speaker 1: want my biscuits done. Well, you're a weird eater.
Speaker 2: Anyways, we all know that.
Speaker 1: You know what I think about all the time that
Speaker 1: you said about me. That's so true. I think it
Speaker 1: enters my head every day.
Speaker 2: I hate when someone says this because I just know
Speaker 2: this is that you don't even know.
Speaker 1: I know I said them. Probably this wasn't.
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what you said this one time? I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I probably do, but.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it now. No, this wasn't a derogatory
Speaker 1: towards me. You just said you're a very particular guy. True,
Speaker 1: you said, oh, so true. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: I noticed how particular I was until you said he's
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. When we were doing the vege of
Speaker 1: my versus. You were like, no, Dan's particular, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what, No, I'm not. Then I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I am. So ever since that day, I recognize how
Speaker 1: particular I am about everything. It's very true, but it's not.
Speaker 2: Freedom telling you stuff all your life. You know you're stupid, bro,
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 2: That's what you say to me when I give you.
Speaker 1: Well, you are stupid, you called Jeff Steve.
Speaker 2: I did. I'm not stupid. That's not stupid, that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Death. Anyway, it was said not in like you're very
Speaker 1: particular about things. It was like, no, he's not going
Speaker 1: to do that because he's particular, he said, Just like
Speaker 1: he was like I would say, his name is Luke,
Speaker 1: Like he was just.
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, just no, just what I'm just looking out
Speaker 2: for you, dude.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt lookouty yeah a little bit. I
Speaker 1: mean I just know. It's just I just don't think
Speaker 1: I knew that that was a like a trade of
Speaker 1: mine and it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's all about owning it, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know what forty dude?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like so what good dude, it's being what
Speaker 2: you are is good. I said, it was good. Find
Speaker 2: out who you are the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you did. Just kind of gave
Speaker 1: you a compliment for telling you the truth.
Speaker 2: Grace told us we talked about sausage for a forty.
Speaker 3: Something, so just inside jokes about sausage and breakfast.
Speaker 2: She's hedging though on that because I got a timer
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 1: It says thirty. It's you. That's true. There's a clock.
Speaker 2: There's an honesty time right here. Break.
Speaker 3: And it was said breakfast bowl is way better than
Speaker 3: breakfast Sound. If you showed up to somewhere and said,
Speaker 3: I want to break, don't start. We're getting close to
Speaker 3: Turkey season, I like it.
Speaker 1: You gotta go, you gotta just clean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, bro, there's still a bird out at your place, right,
Speaker 3: that's kind of kind of got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, I missed my first Turkey this year, and I
Speaker 2: missed my first year this year.
Speaker 1: It was a it was a no deer this year.
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to drag that, no, no, I was
Speaker 2: just no. It's I think I finally feel part of
Speaker 2: the club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It had been kind of a fever
Speaker 2: dream in a good way for a while. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: it would have been my first would have been my
Speaker 2: first Turkey. I got completely by myself too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a quick rundown, super quick, as fast
Speaker 1: as I can at the progression as a hunter. Right.
Speaker 2: We just spent thirty minutes of a living much. We're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna hit this is fast. Hunted a
Speaker 1: little bit as a kid growing up with some randoms. God,
Speaker 1: Nashville was starting to get serious about it. As he
Speaker 1: was coming into Nashville. We all fell in love, started
Speaker 1: hunting together all over the world, all over the planet.
Speaker 1: It got awesome. You learned a lot of things. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying we tall you necessarily you turned into a woodsman,
Speaker 1: and now you were full fledged like you you have
Speaker 1: been for probably the past three years, kind of a
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah. Yeah, But what I'm saying is you
Speaker 1: can do it on like you don't need nobody said
Speaker 1: with nothing, whether it be guns or land management or
Speaker 1: food plots or uh anyway. The whole point what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is within the last three or four
Speaker 1: years you have become your own legitimate hunter.
Speaker 3: And talk about like how cool it was to watch
Speaker 3: you get eat up with it, Like, dude, that was
Speaker 3: so much fun to see you, to see you grinding
Speaker 3: on your own, to learn about more about the woods,
Speaker 3: more about hunting, and more about the outdoor.
Speaker 2: Dude, that was.
Speaker 1: Quenched. Yet I still think are consistently trying to more stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely, man, so much more than I want to do.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like I said, I'm still gonna get
Speaker 2: my first turkey by myself.
Speaker 1: So tell us the story. I mean, I already know this.
Speaker 1: How does this teaching you?
Speaker 2: So I've got The way my property works is it's
Speaker 2: there's you know, the Tennessee Hills, and I'm sure a
Speaker 2: lot of folks are familiar with.
Speaker 1: That, so I may not be.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of mountains is the wrong word,
Speaker 2: but profoundly steep steep hills, little mountains, little tiny mountains,
Speaker 2: and lots of them. Right, These big pronounced ridges and
Speaker 2: stuff kind of set set amongst these.
Speaker 1: Uh, these valley floors.
Speaker 2: Right, So my property is kind of this one big
Speaker 2: valley floor that is kind of sandwiched by these two
Speaker 2: big major ridges, major lines. And so the way that
Speaker 2: works is, you know, that kind of funnels these turkeys
Speaker 2: down into into this bottom come spring. I just got
Speaker 2: my first turkey pictures on my trail cameras this week.
Speaker 2: Hadn't seen any I mean, they.
Speaker 1: Disappeared, dude.
Speaker 2: I don't know where the hell they go. I mean
Speaker 2: they're gone, and I've got again, I got running twenty
Speaker 2: trail cams or something. Dude, I mean they're gone. And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, there and there's twenty of them.
Speaker 2: It's not like there's one.
Speaker 3: Here where they mixed up already. Like we're getting pictures
Speaker 3: of birds strutting with like.
Speaker 2: I hadn't had any strutting pictures yet. But so, the
Speaker 2: way it works, or it seems to work, at least
Speaker 2: it worked last year, was that I had all these birds,
Speaker 2: four or five toms and you know, a gaggle of hens, dude.
Speaker 2: And as the season started, I started seeing all the
Speaker 2: toms were on my neighbor's place and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's not hunting pressure because nobody's hunting yet, same season yet, right,
Speaker 2: So as the season comes closer and closer, and every
Speaker 2: morning I would drive out there they are four or
Speaker 2: five of them blowed up in my neighbors spot.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn what.
Speaker 2: And he's like, this guy's not a hunter. He don't
Speaker 2: have any food plots out, he's not doing anything. His
Speaker 2: land is not that much different than mine. Why are
Speaker 2: they there?
Speaker 1: Sure? Right?
Speaker 2: Well, I realized that I got the guy is on
Speaker 2: my place, yeah, and he has kicked all these times
Speaker 2: off onto my neighbors.
Speaker 1: He's the guy, the head.
Speaker 2: The head hauncho cat is my place is his place,
Speaker 2: and he's the bird, and I realized that that was
Speaker 2: what I began to piece together, you know, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: that's what's going on. He's bullied all these other times
Speaker 2: out of my place.
Speaker 1: Once again, just a sign. That's a sign of learning
Speaker 1: of what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's no way you understand that or know
Speaker 3: that until you actually see it going down in front
Speaker 3: of you. And that's what was going down and definitely
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: So then in my mind, I'm going and another to
Speaker 2: your point I think, is I go, Okay, well I've
Speaker 2: got to get this bird out of here in order
Speaker 2: to have more in order to have more times at
Speaker 2: my place, I gotta I gotta shoot this true, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I gotta get I mean, he's
Speaker 2: probably you know, he's probably peeking, dude, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Years whooping everybody down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so my whole Turkey season last year was spent
Speaker 2: trying to get this this particular bird. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: The bad way that it was like going after a
Speaker 2: mature deer. Yeah, sure, it really felt that way in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. And so I would you know,
Speaker 2: I had some friends coming, I was I was decently
Speaker 2: busy during during turkey season last year. But I did
Speaker 2: have a bunch of time to go out in the
Speaker 2: mornings and stuff and chase this guy. And I had
Speaker 2: one instance where I go, okay, I had a friend
Speaker 2: of mine who had never hunted turkeys before and wanted
Speaker 2: had never killed a turkey, and wanted to really bad.
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, man, come over.
Speaker 1: He came up. It Drew Parker.
Speaker 2: He came over with Ray and you know Raisman hunting
Speaker 2: turkeys forever and me. You know, me and Ray are close.
Speaker 2: We've hunted a bunch of turkeys together. So they come
Speaker 2: over one morning and I said, here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I said, We're going to go out to my yall
Speaker 2: been to my place? So where that that creek that
Speaker 2: were run of runs through that pasture there, we crossed
Speaker 2: it and so I had him gobbling back in this
Speaker 2: holler back on the right.
Speaker 1: Side of box. Collin's like going mouth calling.
Speaker 2: No, we're going out, We're out. I'm doing alocols.
Speaker 3: Oh is he roofed in the same area kind of back.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that morning I was like, I'm hitting the alcohol
Speaker 2: and I'm like I hear him, dude, that's him. He's
Speaker 2: back in this I know exactly where he's at and
Speaker 2: he's back deep in this thing. And I said, we're
Speaker 2: going to cross this creek to get on the right
Speaker 2: side of the creek where he is. Pop this hind
Speaker 2: decoy right in the middle of this cut cornfield right yep.
Speaker 1: Popping in there.
Speaker 2: Sit down then to start, you know, soft calling with
Speaker 2: my mouth call, you know, and he's hammering, hammering, and
Speaker 2: he starts just he's hammering. He's in the trees just
Speaker 2: a I'm like, I'm gonna do it like Drew's gonna
Speaker 2: get his first hurt. It's gonna happen and stuff. And
Speaker 2: I was like, Drew, here's what's gonna happen, dude. He's
Speaker 2: gonna fly out. And we're sitting thirty forty yards from
Speaker 2: the steacoy and I said, he's gonna land right here, dude,
Speaker 2: and just blow up right here, and we're just gonna
Speaker 2: be awesome, like perfect hunt. It just felt like it's perfect.
Speaker 2: Weather's perfect. He's hammering, and I'm so proud of like
Speaker 2: I've already in my mind this bird's already on the ground.
Speaker 2: This is the first Oh yeah, dude, And I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna be like, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm basically a hunt guy at this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm like super excited
Speaker 2: about it, and you know, get my buddies, a good
Speaker 2: friend of mine's first turkey and stuff on my place,
Speaker 2: and yeah, for sure, we talked about it all the time,
Speaker 2: Like you're here now seeing somebody else get something.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've already reached that.
Speaker 2: It's a dad thing. But anyways, I said, this bird's
Speaker 2: gonna he's just gonna soar in man out of this
Speaker 2: little holler and just pop right here.
Speaker 1: And here he comes, you see him?
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, off the ridge.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And then you're just like the he is he goes
Speaker 2: like this, and he's just goes and just right over
Speaker 2: our heads and the lands on the other side of
Speaker 2: the creek, Like you are kidding me, You've gotten to
Speaker 2: be kidding. And he just stays out there and he's
Speaker 2: skirting this tree line, and I mean he's seventy yards
Speaker 2: from us. Okay, So now I mean, obviously we're shooting
Speaker 2: tss so.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: A guy that's never shot a turkey is gonna shoot
Speaker 2: this bird. So I'm like, we have to, like, and
Speaker 2: he's just chilling on the tree.
Speaker 1: Line behind him. Yeah, the thing doing the thing.
Speaker 2: And then here comes through four hens down. It's not
Speaker 2: from the same harbor, from a different part of my property,
Speaker 2: and land on him.
Speaker 1: They land on him, not your oh.
Speaker 2: Not on not on my hand. They land on him somebody.
Speaker 2: He's the guy, bro, this is the guy, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And so turn around, crawl, We crawl
Speaker 2: down the end of the creek, go across, crawl up
Speaker 2: the bank, and Drew's there. Drew's the only guy that
Speaker 2: comes up like smart able to shoot. I'm like, heyn
Speaker 2: just tell me what's going on. Like he's like, he's
Speaker 2: just not coming any closer. He's not coming any closer.
Speaker 1: And I said, get how much ground of y'all gained
Speaker 1: on him? There is none, hard.
Speaker 2: Because he's kind of going he's skirting the tree line
Speaker 2: out into the bigger as the field opens up, he's
Speaker 2: wanting to get out into the spot, and you're just
Speaker 2: kind of watching it go down. He kind of in
Speaker 2: a smaller bottleneck of the field and then it goes
Speaker 2: to open up, and I'm like, well, dream in, I said,
Speaker 2: just I mean, if you're confident in the shot, take it.
Speaker 1: But I was like, it's far.
Speaker 2: It can be done. But I also don't want you
Speaker 2: to have a bad experience. So if you're not comfortable, don't, like,
Speaker 2: don't try to impress me, or we're going to be
Speaker 2: more impressed. If you don't shoot this bird because you
Speaker 2: don't feel confident in it. Then if you shooting and miss,
Speaker 2: or if you feel uncomfortable or wounded or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Which is another like point in the maturity of a hunter.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like most people are like, dude, shoot
Speaker 2: that bird.
Speaker 5: Try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that day I'm thinking, man like, if
Speaker 2: that's me out there, like I'm putting this bird down,
Speaker 2: I can put this bird down if that's me by myself,
Speaker 2: you know. And but it was so cool, I mean,
Speaker 2: it was so cool to get to go with Drew,
Speaker 2: and you know, we continued to kind of you know,
Speaker 2: try to find another bird whatever. And we heard some
Speaker 2: a god will deeper into my place, and so we
Speaker 2: try to do that in.
Speaker 1: The same area is the you know, if.
Speaker 2: Well there was one deeper he was waiting, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have dared come out into that field, right, Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: gonna go to find the woods. And that's what there
Speaker 2: was another one way back, you know, in the back,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody getting it.
Speaker 1: And I see brock Lesner eating a sandwich. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to try to take it from him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. For sure he's got he's got a sandwich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bronck Closer take us hunting in Saskatchewan, I think so.
Speaker 2: I don't know Bronck Closer, never met him. I would
Speaker 2: love to.
Speaker 1: He loves this podcast, so we're good.
Speaker 2: I would love to come shoot awesome deer in Saskatchewan too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of like so if you like, maybe if
Speaker 2: you overway guys and one not overweight guys and you know,
Speaker 2: holler at.
Speaker 1: Us for that, that'd be a lot of fun. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, anybody that lives in the sketches really preferably broncks,
Speaker 1: but would settle for any kind of famous just and
Speaker 1: we'll ride up there with you.
Speaker 2: Not really even if you just got a nice.
Speaker 1: Or maybe if you just mega rich and have a
Speaker 1: lot of land.
Speaker 2: Or not, or you just have land, you just have
Speaker 2: a lot of land.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can figure there.
Speaker 2: Preferably crop with some beding kind of on the edge
Speaker 2: or anyways. Yeah, so long story, long is we finished
Speaker 2: this thing. I appreciate the laugh on that, and we're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it didn't happen. So probably the next two days I
Speaker 2: decided to go out and I knew I kind of
Speaker 2: figured out where he had been.
Speaker 1: Landing. Two three days after this kind.
Speaker 2: Of continuously once you cross the creek, I have the
Speaker 2: other corn on the left there right, well, he had
Speaker 2: been hammering this field. He'd started last st yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: and so he's been going in this field. So I
Speaker 2: get I'm like, I get up, get dressed, babblah, get
Speaker 2: out there, try to beat him to the spot and
Speaker 2: get out there. And by myself, I get out there,
Speaker 2: and I've got my trustee eight seventy, you know, killed
Speaker 2: a bunch of birds with And I get out and
Speaker 2: it's kind of this hill you got to go up
Speaker 2: once you come through the creek before you can really
Speaker 2: see what's out in that field. And so as I
Speaker 2: start to go up, I just see him and he's
Speaker 2: already there on the ground.
Speaker 1: I'm like out, I'm like, he's here, My commy, he's here.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like I don't have this really great
Speaker 2: cover anywhere, so I kind of just like as he's
Speaker 2: you know, he's struck around and when he gets his
Speaker 2: back to me, I just kind of creep back down
Speaker 2: and get a little bit closer, and I come up
Speaker 2: just you and him. There's nobody around. It's me and
Speaker 2: the guy. It's rumbling the dru in the box, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yea, yeah, yeah, I'm Ali Boo
Speaker 2: and this cat dogging dude and there's people behind the
Speaker 2: chair and move on, you know, And uh, I got
Speaker 2: my mouth called me. I taught myself had a mouth
Speaker 2: call last year.
Speaker 1: Metaphorically, we were all cheering in spirit, we were we
Speaker 1: all knew about this turkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah this is my this is my my Ted talks on,
Speaker 2: you know. And I taught myself how to mouth call
Speaker 2: last year because I'd always that is my biggest gap.
Speaker 2: I feel like that I had to bridge to be
Speaker 2: able to to for that moment to happen.
Speaker 1: Was that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love a slate call more than anybody love
Speaker 2: a box call. But you can't do that thing that
Speaker 2: I was about to do with either of those things.
Speaker 2: That's a great point. You can't if you want to.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it can't be done, but if you
Speaker 2: need to get that turkey to take the twenty yards
Speaker 2: in close.
Speaker 1: To you, you feel like mouth calls away. You have
Speaker 1: to how old are you going to do it? Because
Speaker 1: what are you going to.
Speaker 2: Put your call down when he's thirty yards from you
Speaker 2: and pick your gun up?
Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
Speaker 2: So it's like you can't sit there and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: well he's now he's thirty yards for me, so let
Speaker 2: me get my gun up. Like he's not gonna run away.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 2: You have to be silent if you're doing the calling
Speaker 2: thing where they're the call and response, a thing that
Speaker 2: everyone wants. Yeah, you gotta do a mouth call in
Speaker 2: my opinion, and not that my opinion matters, but in
Speaker 2: my mind that was the thing that was holding me
Speaker 2: up from ever getting my first solo turkey. I've killed
Speaker 2: a bunch of turkeys with you guys, with buddies. It's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like, you still want to do that thing by yourself?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be able to do it? I
Speaker 2: can't teach my kids to do it if I can't
Speaker 2: do it by myself. Yeah, And so I got my
Speaker 2: mouth call in. Man, I'm so proud. I spent hours
Speaker 2: and hours anytime I was in my truck driving anywhere,
Speaker 2: mouth call on the bus, mouth call driving people Cody
Speaker 2: remember when, Yeah, I mean I'd be in the Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we were.
Speaker 1: In that sub stadium. Somebody took a video of being
Speaker 1: Luke on the bus just and uh, Chris Money's over
Speaker 1: in the corner. He's just he's just like, he's like,
Speaker 1: this is horrible.
Speaker 2: It's like hearing someone practice the violin or something like
Speaker 2: you for years.
Speaker 1: That was a big jump for you. And see how
Speaker 1: intimidating it is because you literally haven't been taught how
Speaker 1: to blow a mouth call and you're arguably hunting with
Speaker 1: like dudes have been doing it for forever their whole
Speaker 1: whole life, and it is a challenging I would say,
Speaker 1: the thing about a mouth call is not making the sound.
Speaker 1: The challenging thing about a mouth call is knowing when
Speaker 1: to make the correct cadence at the volume you need
Speaker 1: to make, no doubt, it's not.
Speaker 2: Just it's more subtle than.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. Pretty riggy right here is at
Speaker 1: thirty You can't just hammer it. You got it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 2: The when when to call is way more important on
Speaker 2: how to call.
Speaker 3: I feel like because I feel like thee. The tone
Speaker 3: of your call is the least important thing, like making
Speaker 3: it the perfect like oh yeah, like that thing that's
Speaker 3: the least important in that whole thing. But being in
Speaker 3: the woods and hunting enough teaches you how like when
Speaker 3: to do when to not call absolutely too and when
Speaker 3: absolutely just as important as and when you just go
Speaker 3: this turkey is he's coming this way?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well I mess it up. So anyways, I'm there
Speaker 2: and I get into the position, I feel like it
Speaker 2: is going to be the most advantageous for me, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm up, man, like I'm working this.
Speaker 1: I'm going up.
Speaker 2: Dude, he's working. I'm telling like he's gonna he's coming,
Speaker 2: this is gonna happen. And my mouth calling, he's responding.
Speaker 2: There's no hens. So he's hammering. Dude, he's obviously ready
Speaker 2: to roll and he's coming in, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: think in that moment, I'm just kind of again, I
Speaker 2: get ahead of myself. One, I've never missed a turkey
Speaker 2: at this point in my turkey hunting career.
Speaker 1: Very proudat for you, Very very proud that he was
Speaker 1: not scared to let it be known that he hadn't missed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, So that's coming into factor. I'm doing
Speaker 2: the mouth call thing, and I'm also kind of intoxicated
Speaker 2: by that call and response saying that that we're having
Speaker 2: at the moment. So what happens is ultimately he plays
Speaker 2: the game exactly like I want him to, and I
Speaker 2: think I really just allowed that to go on too long.
Speaker 2: So when I made the shot on him, he was
Speaker 2: probably ten yards away, too tight, too tight. So my
Speaker 2: pell's friend was just it was still like this, and
Speaker 2: so he took off and I was like, you've got
Speaker 2: to be kidding me, this bird.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. You call me? He faced
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 2: Actually, oh yeah, I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 1: Like, you got him?
Speaker 2: You got him?
Speaker 1: And he was like, bro.
Speaker 2: But it's like that's a lesson that you can't learn
Speaker 2: unless it happens to you.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: People can tell you one hundred times. People can tell
Speaker 2: you when you have a kid. Dude, you read a
Speaker 2: book and it says, when your kids crying, do this,
Speaker 2: But until your kids crying, it don't mean And sometimes
Speaker 2: that don't work until you get you know, until you
Speaker 2: get Pete on. You don't learn to keep the diaper
Speaker 2: over him.
Speaker 1: Until the same thing.
Speaker 3: You'll never get pet in the face again if you
Speaker 3: if you're doing it the way you're supposed to do
Speaker 3: it correctly.
Speaker 2: I remember him flying off and just being like, God,
Speaker 2: you are kidding me, dude. I'm like, this bird and me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna write a kid's book called this
Speaker 2: Bird and Me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But it's like it was just but it honestly, it
Speaker 2: felt kind of like So then I went out. I
Speaker 2: went out with a with another friend a few weeks
Speaker 2: later to try to get the same bird. And it
Speaker 2: was like a guy that doesn't even really turkey hunt
Speaker 2: and he's just kind of sitting with me, you know,
Speaker 2: and stuff, and.
Speaker 1: Same deal.
Speaker 2: I get this bird in, Man, I get him in
Speaker 2: the same field, same field, and he's hammering, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's gonna happen. I'm getting another shot
Speaker 2: this guy. And he comes in and man, he hung
Speaker 2: up at Yeah.
Speaker 1: He knew the game.
Speaker 2: He hung up at seventy.
Speaker 1: Dude, he stayed in that field.
Speaker 2: I mean he hung up at seventy. I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: watching him just and I had corn was kind of
Speaker 2: starting to starting to kind of you know, my grass
Speaker 2: was tall and my corn was starting to come up
Speaker 2: just a little bit, so it.
Speaker 1: Was just right, and so it's just.
Speaker 2: Enough where he's behind it, and so he's kind of
Speaker 2: around his corner and I'm like, god, dang, like i'd
Speaker 2: seen him. He's hung up there forever. So we have
Speaker 2: and this is another. This is another like this was
Speaker 2: a year of lessons for me in the woods, from
Speaker 2: deer to turkeys, everything, and it was a year that
Speaker 2: I really needed for my own egos. That's probably my
Speaker 2: favorite year I have had hunting, in the least successful.
Speaker 1: Year i've had. Okay, come on, man, right, it.
Speaker 2: Really was so And so here's another story of the
Speaker 2: same thing. So birds in. My buddy's there, and I
Speaker 2: can see him. He's coming in the field and my
Speaker 2: corn's kind of up, and he goes back behind it.
Speaker 2: And so where he's at, I'm on the other side
Speaker 2: of this corner and I can't see him. He's hammering, calling, hammering, calling,
Speaker 2: and he shuts up. He doesn't do anything, and I'm like, shesh,
Speaker 2: I'm like, weird.
Speaker 1: Man, he's hanging up. He's not here.
Speaker 2: Well, then I hear him again and he's way up
Speaker 2: on this ridge over here, and I'm like, god, damn, because.
Speaker 1: He hadn't made a sound for about half hour.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, he's just slipped off down into
Speaker 2: this creek where I can't see him, and he's just
Speaker 2: the road that ridge up there, up to the top,
Speaker 2: and so he's hammering. And then he's back in the
Speaker 2: next holler over. I can hear me. He's still hammering.
Speaker 2: He started this is I mean, we've been sitting there
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, two hours at this point,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, working this bird, how can I get
Speaker 2: him to come in here? And he's just back and
Speaker 2: forth in this ridge, back and forth in this ridge. Okay,
Speaker 2: So eventually I'm like, all right, man, this bird's me Dude. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting this bird. He's one. I mean, this
Speaker 2: hen that I am is gonna have to to him
Speaker 2: to make it happen. And that ain't happening, right. So
Speaker 2: I get up walk over. Dude, guess who's standing right
Speaker 2: there in the same spot.
Speaker 4: Wasn't the same bird just standing in that field for
Speaker 4: an hour and a half not God, I couldn't see him,
Speaker 4: and I walked around the corner and he's just like this,
Speaker 4: and I'm like.
Speaker 1: I'm just like it's your knees.
Speaker 2: I was just like and it was like, so I
Speaker 2: just that field and that bird, and it's just and there.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, there's no way to know if you'll
Speaker 2: ever get that bird. He might still be there. He's
Speaker 2: probably still there. But turkeys are all but turkeys are
Speaker 2: also similar. There's no signifyant. You know, he's not like
Speaker 2: the deer.
Speaker 1: You can go, what's scarface? You know?
Speaker 2: The turkeys they all kind of a lot of ways
Speaker 2: look the same.
Speaker 1: You'll know if there's a I would better say, if there's.
Speaker 3: Only one bird in my place, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: sure it's still him, But I've got that bird. I've
Speaker 3: got that same kind. I've got that same bird. I
Speaker 3: hunted literally all season long, same exact thing, roosted on
Speaker 3: the same ridge, flew off in the same place every day.
Speaker 3: And that was the season for me, Like you said,
Speaker 3: like probably one of my favorite turkey seasons I've ever
Speaker 3: had because I ended up last. It was like the
Speaker 3: last week of season, missed him at like fifty five yards, watched.
Speaker 1: Him fly off.
Speaker 3: But I learned more about turkey hunting and how to
Speaker 3: react and interact with a tom during that season. Then
Speaker 3: you could read a book and you could watching the
Speaker 3: show anything. You just just being out there and getting
Speaker 3: stumped over it. I mean, it's just like writing songs.
Speaker 3: You got to get in the room and write a
Speaker 3: bunch a bunch a bunch of bad songs to get the.
Speaker 2: One that you read that every Tom Kelly book and
Speaker 2: if you ain't in the Woods, it don't mind her.
Speaker 1: That's as close as it gets for Tom Kelly. Book
Speaker 1: is as close as it gets to actually do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're right, there is no substitute for doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for the Woods education for sure. So me and Luke
Speaker 1: saide we're gonna go Turkey outing. Two years ago. He
Speaker 1: calls me, hey man, come spend the night the house.
Speaker 1: We've gotta be up at five. I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: fly over, spend the night, get up the next morning.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean zu bas oh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: they call.
Speaker 2: It was like a dance class.
Speaker 1: Don't give its so get over there and uh kind
Speaker 1: of similar. It was the end of season, so we
Speaker 1: were like. Luke was basically just like, hey man, let's
Speaker 1: just try it. Who knows. It was like cool, get up,
Speaker 1: go sit on the tree. I had warned my stuff
Speaker 1: that I had been I had sprayed my for methrone
Speaker 1: down by the way. If anybody's wondering, I had Rocky
Speaker 1: Mountain spotted fever twice and it was awful. I should
Speaker 1: just crawl through the woods and get ticks all over me.
Speaker 1: It happened all the time. But since I started spraying
Speaker 1: down with the sawyers from methron two days before season,
Speaker 1: let it sit outside on my dry I rarely pull
Speaker 1: ticks off me. Legit rarely.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you when I when I myself is treated,
Speaker 2: I've never had one.
Speaker 1: Top I don't know that it's a game changer, is now. Look,
Speaker 1: it may give us cancer, but it's definitely I.
Speaker 3: Don't give you rocky amounted Spotify, don't give you a
Speaker 3: tick in your beard that gives you rockymounted spoti fever,
Speaker 3: because that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I've never been more mad at you when you smashed
Speaker 1: that tick in my beard.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I couldn't find tweezers. I used flyers.
Speaker 1: He was. I was like, give me some tweezers to
Speaker 1: pull this tick on my beard. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm standing there. We used to we had a house.
Speaker 1: We had a rent house and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: and I told him this.
Speaker 3: I was so, I don't even think it's like needle
Speaker 3: leg his face. It was need No, I think it
Speaker 3: was just like regularly. I think it's like wrench, like
Speaker 3: a wrench, I mean wrenched it out of there.
Speaker 2: No flyers.
Speaker 1: Oh, so I said, read, there's a tick in my beard. Man,
Speaker 1: I need you to not smash this tick. You're gonna
Speaker 1: put the tweets on, twist at fire, slowly pulling out.
Speaker 1: He comes back with a pair of plots and mashes
Speaker 1: it into my face. And I'm pretty sure that's the
Speaker 1: tick that gave you. If we're being honest.
Speaker 3: Which is like just mashing one can't give it to
Speaker 3: you like it just knowsn't get on you and you
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: It's got to be in the so like you already
Speaker 2: had it. It wasn't me that gave it to you.
Speaker 1: Well, there's just there's an argument out there that it's
Speaker 1: actually the mashing of the tick that's debunked.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a it's in the it's in there
Speaker 2: like saliva is whatever.
Speaker 1: You guys need scientists doing fact checking right now.
Speaker 2: But here's here's here's about this. I like when there's
Speaker 2: a fact check. Here's here's a fact right here.
Speaker 3: Only you can only get rocky amount of spotted fever
Speaker 3: from a tick that has gotten it from a deer.
Speaker 3: Like a tick, a tick that has been on a
Speaker 3: deer has to get on a deer get blood from it.
Speaker 1: We find, well, that's it. Rocking spot fever spread at
Speaker 1: the BT of an infected tick or by contamination of
Speaker 1: the skin with tick blood or.
Speaker 2: Feces, so it can be tick blood. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said.
Speaker 2: You have just close enough. I listened to a podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, we're inception three stories of deep right now,
Speaker 1: So let me just get through this. So Reed gives
Speaker 1: me spot of fear because he mashes it with the plyers.
Speaker 1: Two years later, men, the turccount and I go to
Speaker 1: his house. We get out there, we're on the tree,
Speaker 1: and all my stuff has been sprayed. Right, stuff is
Speaker 1: usually spread. Yeah, one was because you just moved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: Late season. You usually have to do it like a
Speaker 2: couple of sprays.
Speaker 1: He was using stuff that he wasn't using, that wasn't sprayed.
Speaker 2: He had moved to the untreated.
Speaker 1: We're sitting the same tree, same tree. Hen flies in.
Speaker 1: Not no goblin, right, I don't think there's any goblin.
Speaker 1: It was really dead. It's really hot.
Speaker 2: Two hens flew over us pretty late, really late.
Speaker 1: Sums, are you up? It was just kind of a dead. Yes.
Speaker 1: Luke pulls his pants leg up like this, and when
Speaker 1: he does, there is like an army of seed ticks.
Speaker 1: It's got to be thirty at least. I'm serious. Like
Speaker 1: I was panicked. I started worrying about my future royalty
Speaker 1: chicks because I was like, this guy's gonna die. So
Speaker 1: I started picking them off my He's swapping the my
Speaker 1: like this guy can't die right now, I gotta have
Speaker 1: more cuts on it.
Speaker 2: Look at that tight cad and the.
Speaker 1: Cramping seriously problem at start picking ticks off right. It's
Speaker 1: like he's like, hey man, what do we do? I
Speaker 1: was like, we're doing. This is a terrible morning. Let's go.
Speaker 1: So he we go back to the house. He immediately
Speaker 1: goes straight to shower. I don't have the ticks on me,
Speaker 1: so I just changing my jim shorts, T shirt, flip flops,
Speaker 1: cross whatever. Bro, let's hit the said chifil A. Sick
Speaker 1: go to chickil A. I love eating breakfast, me too,
Speaker 1: almost as I couldn't decide if I wanted't need to
Speaker 1: run anyway. So we're coming back the house from chick
Speaker 1: fil A and low hole behind his barn in the
Speaker 1: two track, we see a turkey and he's like, dude,
Speaker 1: is that And I was like, I think so, I
Speaker 1: don't know why there's a lone gobbler at the second
Speaker 1: week of May or whenever. The last season ye at
Speaker 1: like ten thirty it was later, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: let's hop in the ranger and scoot down to this
Speaker 1: other thing. We'll put some Bino's on him and we
Speaker 1: can check him out. Sure enough, we do that without
Speaker 1: thinking to get our calls or our camo will be.
Speaker 1: I have on like a black T shirt and some
Speaker 1: jim shorts. He has on Zuba's. Give they were very
Speaker 1: popular in the eighties, So give us a rundown of what.
Speaker 2: Very billowye zebra pajama style zebra print in Carolina blue,
Speaker 2: right in the colors of your favorite team. So mine
Speaker 2: were Carolina Panthers on zu bass.
Speaker 1: So he has on zoo bas pants and some shirt
Speaker 1: I don't know what shirt he had on.
Speaker 2: I did have a camera shirt.
Speaker 1: I did have a camera shirt. So we hot.
Speaker 2: We're like, I'm like, dude, this short sleeve, short sleeve
Speaker 2: cameras yeah, and tick tick time ye it is And
Speaker 2: I just had forty just had forty minutes before this.
Speaker 1: So there's a dry creek bed that runs parallel to
Speaker 1: this field that this turkey is in, and I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: it's last. It's it's fourth quarter. I'm gonna be last.
Speaker 1: Ton of like, let's just give it a shot. So
Speaker 1: he's out there, just not really godling, just kind of
Speaker 1: strutting around every now and then doing the thing himself.
Speaker 1: But all hens were nesting at this point, so.
Speaker 2: Inters of what he can to get one out there
Speaker 2: though exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I don't know if we can
Speaker 1: make this happen. You did have your gun with you,
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I said, let's just try to parallel this
Speaker 1: bird on this creek. So get in the bed creep bed,
Speaker 1: start walking down through there, and we can't catch up
Speaker 1: to him. Right Like, every time we get twenty yards,
Speaker 1: he moves thirty. Every time we get forty yards, he
Speaker 1: moves sixty and he's just making this way northward down
Speaker 1: the valley that Luke so eloquently described he lives on.
Speaker 1: It was a great job. You did a great job.
Speaker 1: And he goes all the way back with trees hedged
Speaker 1: around it. So he's making his way north of this valley,
Speaker 1: away from the house, away from us. So last ditch effort.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, portant important point he had. I
Speaker 1: didn't have his shoes on. He had on some crocs.
Speaker 1: So he's rolling down this creep bed. I am like,
Speaker 1: every step of my old dad feet, right, yeah, So
Speaker 1: he like dusts me like I can't keep up with it.
Speaker 1: So he's somewhere north of me. The turkey is somewhere
Speaker 1: north of him. I'm struggling to catch up. I only
Speaker 1: have socks on him. By this time. They're wet. It's gross.
Speaker 1: Everything's it's awful. It's hot. There's boves everywhere. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna just with my mouth, make the
Speaker 1: closest thing I can do. A call, not a mouth call,
Speaker 1: not a mouth caull. I didn't have any calls. I
Speaker 1: reached my pocket and I was like, you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any calls, so I literally just go, yeah,
Speaker 1: he gobbles so hard. Man, it had a little chick
Speaker 1: filed chicken grease in there, so it's probably yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it sound like an old hen. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he.
Speaker 1: He gobbles, and I'm like, now, as as a hunter,
Speaker 1: we all know this is not normal. Product this Normally
Speaker 1: that bird would have just right. For some reason, this
Speaker 1: turkey was so hot he gobbled, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is working.
Speaker 3: But also as a hunter, you know, if you can
Speaker 3: get a bird to gobble at you at ten o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning, there's a good chance that bird's gonna
Speaker 3: come check it out within range of a gun.
Speaker 1: And he was yeah, so he god was. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know where Luke is because he's somewhere
Speaker 1: north of me in this creek, but I know the
Speaker 1: turkey is now coming to me, So I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: now he's he's double on triple godwin, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I gotta see what's happening, right, So I like poke
Speaker 1: my head over this creek, and baby, when I get
Speaker 1: about right here, I can see his full fan. Dude,
Speaker 1: he's just doing this, just coming to me. And I
Speaker 1: was like man, I hope Luke knows that this is happening.
Speaker 1: And I think as an unexperienced hunter you would have
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have known what to do. But as an
Speaker 1: experience hunter, you knew that joker was on a string.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure. So as I'm calling, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if this is going to happen.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I was like, oh, snap, he's shot,
Speaker 1: and I jump up and all I can see is
Speaker 1: him running through the field and that turkey is flopping
Speaker 1: out there in the middle of panther. It was like
Speaker 1: it was wind and so we're like, I can I
Speaker 1: have no shoes on, in shorts run through the field.
Speaker 1: We're like hug turkeys fly.
Speaker 2: And we took pictures in Zuba's iconic iconic picture.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, man, I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I know we killed this turkey the correct way, like
Speaker 1: we call that turkey in Oh yeah. Everything about it
Speaker 1: was You're in Zuba's pants and I have on shorts, like,
Speaker 1: maybe don't post it that day. He's like, got my turkey, baby,
Speaker 1: like it's just us and the zoo. He was should
Speaker 1: have been proud of it. I shouldn't even have said
Speaker 1: that it was awesome to great, But it was.
Speaker 2: The thing that saved us was the the creek bed man. Oh,
Speaker 2: no way we could have done because he couldn't. When
Speaker 2: you get down that creek bed, you can go along that.
Speaker 1: What is it probably six ft it's play six ft.
Speaker 3: Of That is the perfect case scenario for that scenario
Speaker 3: for that bird being there.
Speaker 2: Anytime there's a turkey that I can see, I'm in
Speaker 2: that creek bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can move on.
Speaker 2: As I can move up, I can get to them
Speaker 2: without you know what I mean. If that wasn't that
Speaker 2: would be an almost impossible field.
Speaker 1: It would because.
Speaker 2: There's no way to access it from anywhere else.
Speaker 1: I say, that's the luckiest turkey murder. I've been a
Speaker 1: part of turkey murder. We have to cut that out.
Speaker 1: It's a harsh word.
Speaker 2: I would say that that's kind.
Speaker 1: Of the luckiest turkey hunt. I've ever had.
Speaker 2: The word that the US marketing problem, marketing problem, You're
Speaker 2: you're a marketing Jews.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Was it skill it Christmas, skill it christ Let's before
Speaker 3: we get into music, Let's just talk about let's talk about.
Speaker 2: Before you got to Nashville.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 2: We've got a little stat sheet on you here.
Speaker 3: And I did not know, bro, that you worked at
Speaker 3: a fun depot.
Speaker 1: I did tell us what it was. What was that?
Speaker 2: There's got to be something. I bet I bet you
Speaker 2: got I bet I bet my mom's probably still got
Speaker 2: the shirts.
Speaker 1: Your mom loves our podcast, bro, Yeah, I know she does.
Speaker 2: She called us out. She was like, y'all better get
Speaker 2: my boy on there.
Speaker 1: I was like, she was like's my son not on there?
Speaker 2: She reposts, she shared, Yeah, she's in due.
Speaker 1: It's really sweet, man, She's awesome.
Speaker 2: Fundy.
Speaker 1: What was your job Ashville's fundy, bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashville's fundy. What was my job? What wasn't my job?
Speaker 2: You did it all, I'd say. The only thing I
Speaker 2: probably didn't do was like front desk cashier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not putting you at the front desk. No, No, dude.
Speaker 2: How old were you first jobs? Probably fifteen fifteen, I
Speaker 2: would say I started working.
Speaker 3: There was that lee like just like, hey, man, go
Speaker 3: go work, go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're getting a job for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, but I played football in high school and the
Speaker 2: coach of the the what do you call it them?
Speaker 1: You know, they call it the Little League. I guess.
Speaker 2: The guy that coached that for us was the GM
Speaker 2: at this place, right, it had been forever. I mean
Speaker 2: he was the pee wee coach forever, right, Tim McLoughlin.
Speaker 2: He was the GM of Ashvill's fund depot. He was
Speaker 2: the GM national depot.
Speaker 1: But he was also yeah, he was a real job
Speaker 1: job a little bit of an official title for him.
Speaker 2: Well, there was managers. He was the manager's manager.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: So like the owner, No, that was the general manager GM.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the owner didn't work there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, sorry to anyways. Tim was awesome, Yeah, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: And but he's just hoss.
Speaker 2: Of a man, you know, like if your O line
Speaker 2: coach was the head coach of the pee wee team,
Speaker 2: you know, and so all the guys in our football program,
Speaker 2: it was like it was super easy to get.
Speaker 1: A job there because Tim would like give you a job.
Speaker 2: You know, do you.
Speaker 1: Remember what you were making?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure it's was probably like six seventy five,
Speaker 2: six fifty six twenty five, six fifty somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: Out there for a part there. That's the grind bro
Speaker 1: out there, that's the ground. So I did and at that.
Speaker 2: Time fund Ebo was it was really new.
Speaker 3: I like Fundy fund like it's one word, it's long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't work.
Speaker 5: It wasn't for a.
Speaker 1: Long time, dude, ger. But when it was new, when
Speaker 1: I started working there, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: was smack. I mean you talked about birthday party falls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hit Colomn before you went.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, fifteen years old going to the Fundy But
Speaker 3: where everybody's gonna be or you wearing yes cool.
Speaker 2: Water no curve, curve correct the this or Adidas pack
Speaker 2: it one more. I had definitely probably curves was in
Speaker 2: the mix.
Speaker 1: Curves. It's curves, curve, curve.
Speaker 2: Curves is the women's workouts. Different marketing curve and curves,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But yeah, I was probably
Speaker 2: wearing curves. I can smell curve.
Speaker 5: I had.
Speaker 1: David Off cool water water water. That was what I mean, dude.
Speaker 2: I mean there's yeah, it's like blue marketing, great market
Speaker 2: thirty years later.
Speaker 1: I remember that joker.
Speaker 2: You can get that joker in Walgreens right now? Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, I bet I could get some right now.
Speaker 1: That makes so much money.
Speaker 2: And you're right back at the Bundy poster. But we
Speaker 2: had blue or red polo shirts and like khaki pants
Speaker 2: was the outfit in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dud dude.
Speaker 2: Policy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always got in trouble because I was fat.
Speaker 2: Dude was and still but dude at that time, dude
Speaker 2: at now even tucked in, ain't hit ain't it for me?
Speaker 3: About go karts, climbing wall tag?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what I did to the shirt
Speaker 1: in was New Year's Eve. That's the last time if
Speaker 1: to the shirt in probably, but at least you got
Speaker 1: something common. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, jack.
Speaker 2: But yeah I did it all. Laser tag, banning cages,
Speaker 2: climbing wall, redemption counter.
Speaker 1: Which is where you think.
Speaker 2: They didn't keep in there, along as that candy in
Speaker 2: there was.
Speaker 3: Just noshing down, like the kid's been getting the candy
Speaker 3: a lot, and I ate an oil drum full.
Speaker 1: Of tatsu ol.
Speaker 2: Profits are down, Yeah, where is the candy going?
Speaker 1: But there's a bunt.
Speaker 2: So it was a big place, man, it was big.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of employees, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. There's probably at any time, I guess twenty
Speaker 2: kids working in there that were all kind of high
Speaker 2: school age, and then the managers were all like like
Speaker 2: actual adults.
Speaker 1: Was the GM up in a little yes, saying looking down.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's like in the stairs and he just kind
Speaker 2: of and he wore black shirt and shirt shirt intimidated.
Speaker 2: And his brother dole.
Speaker 1: Y spell it. Yeah, I believe. I believe, Yeah, d
Speaker 1: o Yleyle.
Speaker 2: So his real name is Doyle, but in the accident
Speaker 2: was Dole and we we always used to go get
Speaker 2: him Dold. That's what me and miser because Misser worked there.
Speaker 1: There there, I need one of those guys. Har worked
Speaker 1: there for one day quit big. Yeah he worked there.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, but dude, all of us work there, dude.
Speaker 2: And it was so funny. Missler was employee the month twice.
Speaker 1: Of course, if he listens, lists.
Speaker 2: May have some he may have some fun. I can
Speaker 2: see that picture of miss like so proud. But he
Speaker 2: had the you know he'd have that. We'd all had
Speaker 2: whistles because we weren't go carts too, because the go carts,
Speaker 2: the carts were their gas. The go carts.
Speaker 1: What if some kids bumping, dude, you got to.
Speaker 2: Hit them with no bumping, dude, bumping, no bumping dude,
Speaker 2: no bomb.
Speaker 1: Pood nothing wrong. It was due.
Speaker 2: It was wild, dude. The things that people will lie
Speaker 2: about to you to tell you their kid is old
Speaker 2: enough to do something that's completely unsava children is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So like you had to be x years old and
Speaker 2: certain certain height, especially go carts to the car and
Speaker 2: when they opened the new when they opened that, so
Speaker 2: we had indoor go carts and outdoor go carts. The
Speaker 2: inside ones were electric and they ran on these like magnets.
Speaker 2: It was wild how they ran actually, But the indoor
Speaker 2: ones were super fast and could be controlled via like
Speaker 2: we had this controller so I could individually control each
Speaker 2: car and what speed they could.
Speaker 1: Go in case you need to shut a knuckle head down,
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: Can limit someone's speed kind of thing. But on outside
Speaker 2: ones were gas. So you're they're just kind of at
Speaker 2: the mercy of like the essentially restrictor plate.
Speaker 1: Racing out there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't at the restrictor plate.
Speaker 2: The governor on the head, you know, govern.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: And Dole was the he was the mechanic for like
Speaker 2: of course, but you would, dude, these parents would come
Speaker 2: in and they're like, no, dude, he's old enough, he's
Speaker 2: talk and I'm like, no, he's not, dude, And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: no he is. And I'm like, okay, dude, he's old enough.
Speaker 2: And then when they get hurt, dude, don't come to
Speaker 2: me about it.
Speaker 1: You were that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, well you're going to you're really crazy
Speaker 2: child's life so they can ride go karts today, not
Speaker 2: six months from them. Wow, you're willing for your child
Speaker 2: to be in a gasoline powered vehicle with other with teenagers.
Speaker 2: There's teenagers out here and your kids seven, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna put them out here because you're telling me that
Speaker 2: they're twelve. Wow, that's worth it to you.
Speaker 1: Wild To me, it's crazy. Parents are crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, and I mean and that line for
Speaker 2: go caurts you work on Saturday, dude, there'll be three
Speaker 2: of us working go karts, so there's two guys on
Speaker 2: the essentially on the tray act. And you know you
Speaker 2: got up at the wind the gates and let the
Speaker 2: gate and then you have to every race.
Speaker 1: Ship to do safety brief. How does it go? I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could even remember. Just kind of
Speaker 1: crank it up a little bit, just see what happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, when you get on the track, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get you're gonna get seven minutes out there. Whatever the mountain,
Speaker 2: you can get seven minutes out there. Absolutely no bumping.
Speaker 1: Keep your hands and we can't bump. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: don't boo go.
Speaker 2: So do the no bumping thing. Dude, you absolutely happened.
Speaker 1: But why is there a bumper on the corner? Now?
Speaker 2: You can bump if you want to.
Speaker 1: You said we can't bump, right.
Speaker 2: If you do, I'm gonna kick you off.
Speaker 1: It usually shuts it down, shut it down.
Speaker 2: Right. And it's like, if you see me or one
Speaker 2: of my co workers on the track, that means we're
Speaker 2: stopping right now.
Speaker 1: Stop if there's.
Speaker 3: A past the starting point, can I go? When you
Speaker 3: keep going around.
Speaker 2: When you make it to the rank, you need to
Speaker 2: stop right, okay, And you'll know when you need to stop.
Speaker 2: We'll make it overtly clear when you.
Speaker 1: Need to stop. Why do you have whistles because you're
Speaker 1: an out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a lot of like it. You know,
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks you worked there, you're like,
Speaker 2: you're trying to be really nice, and then you realize
Speaker 2: that all people are terrible. Right, it's your first experience
Speaker 2: out the window. Quick yea, each a job that only
Speaker 2: cares about themselves.
Speaker 1: Buddy, Ain't that ain't worth it? Yeah? Out there, dude,
Speaker 1: go ahead, dude, yeah, go to it.
Speaker 2: But a lot of times, I mean there was obviously
Speaker 2: times where it was overtly obvious. I'm like, dude, your
Speaker 2: kid is not this kid is not this kid is
Speaker 2: not thirteen. D like, this kid's seven. Because what I
Speaker 2: would do is I would it's the same way when
Speaker 2: you try to buy beer when you were a kid, right, but.
Speaker 1: Say there's no.
Speaker 2: Id required to write go cards? Right sure, because obviously
Speaker 2: the kids can be young. I think it was twelve,
Speaker 2: I don't remember. You don't have a driver's lost the tween.
Speaker 1: I would go.
Speaker 2: The parents would be like, oh, he's you know, he's
Speaker 2: thirteen or whatever, and I'd be like, all right, man,
Speaker 2: what year were you born in?
Speaker 1: And they'd be like that you're out out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's if there's anything a little kid knows, it's their birthday,
Speaker 2: oh the thousands, because that's the best day of the
Speaker 2: year besides Christmas December eighteenth, right, yeah, they know the
Speaker 2: year like that, what year were you born? And if
Speaker 2: they're like trying to do the master, do.
Speaker 1: You know what year your wife was born?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nineteen ninety two, nineteen ninety one, is that right?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: What I'm three years older than you, thirteen ninety nineteen ninety,
Speaker 3: nineteen years.
Speaker 2: So it's weird because like it's close to other years.
Speaker 1: Good year, Good year. I was March ninety okay, shutout.
Speaker 2: Birthday coming up for me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: For the boys, twenty one thirty.
Speaker 1: Four were gross.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gross.
Speaker 2: We're going to app state you. And did you meet
Speaker 2: Adam there when I did? Yeah, And that's kind of
Speaker 2: like you and Adam started doing the thing, right I met.
Speaker 2: I didn't meet him though, till I was probably twenty one, okay,
Speaker 2: So that would have been my probably the start of
Speaker 2: my what would have been my senior year is when
Speaker 2: I met Adam. Is that the start of kind of
Speaker 2: your musical journey?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I guess it started in my the summer after
Speaker 2: my junior year of college. So okay. So to run
Speaker 2: back to the fund deep of thing, I had that
Speaker 2: job in high school. It's my first job, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: So once I left college, or once I left high school,
Speaker 2: I didn't have that job anymore, okay, And I worked
Speaker 2: there for you don't know, three years, maybe two three
Speaker 2: years for like sophomore, junior, senior.
Speaker 1: Years high school.
Speaker 2: That was my job that I had because it was
Speaker 2: like easy. My buddies worked there, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And so my junior year, after my junior year of college,
Speaker 2: this was kind of the thing that kicked the whole
Speaker 2: music deal off, right, is I come back to Ashville.
Speaker 2: Well without kind of consulting my buddies. It was kind
Speaker 2: of the unspoken all my buddies. You guys know, me
Speaker 2: and my buddies were all tight. There's like nine or
Speaker 2: ten of us that still talk every day pretty much. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's been going on for twelve years. So unbeknownst to me,
Speaker 2: it was kind of an this unspoken thing that because
Speaker 2: every summer up to that point we had all come
Speaker 2: back to Ashville. Well that summer everyone else stayed in
Speaker 2: their perspective college towns. You came and I came home.
Speaker 2: Great title, don't right it without me?
Speaker 1: Cut that? Yeah? Uh yeah, cut that.
Speaker 2: Gout let it three yeah, just but just leaving break
Speaker 2: Top and then next time I'm on here, we'll tell
Speaker 2: the story of that being a number one. So I
Speaker 2: love that I moved back to Asheville you know, I'm
Speaker 2: twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: I drink, go out whatever.
Speaker 2: But I'm living with my parents in the house I
Speaker 2: grew up in. And I'm like, well, my all my
Speaker 2: people that were my bosses at fond Depot are still
Speaker 2: working there. I don't think Tim was there anymore, but
Speaker 2: my my my favorite manager, Nick was working there.
Speaker 1: You probably know Nick.
Speaker 2: You probably knew Nick, but anyways, he was like he
Speaker 2: was my dog, dude, you know, especially especially there, and
Speaker 2: he was still working there. So I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I'm home for the summer and need a gig. And
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, dude, He's like, I'll hurry back.
Speaker 1: We're go karts whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, then I'm the old guy that works there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It was all high school kids when I worked there,
Speaker 2: and it was still all high school kids when I
Speaker 2: worked there when I was twenty one, So it was
Speaker 2: like and I remember it just being like soul crushing,
Speaker 2: you know. And I remember thinking like it was not
Speaker 2: looking good already for me to finish college at that point,
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking like this might be what the
Speaker 2: future looks like for me, you know, like this like
Speaker 2: if I don't get myself together, that hurts you know,
Speaker 2: like this could be I could be the thirty four
Speaker 2: year old guy that's works it's working go carts.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And not that I'm sure there's people that are that
Speaker 2: specialize in There's so many jobs that people specialize in,
Speaker 2: but that's the job they want to do. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been something that I wanted to do, so
Speaker 2: you had to do. So it was just my moment
Speaker 2: of like, man, but that wasn't like I should do
Speaker 2: music to get out of this. It was it was
Speaker 2: just this moment of man, I really need to get
Speaker 2: it's I'm real life is rapidly approaching me. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: cause I'm gonna go to app I'm not doing great.
Speaker 2: I'm skipping class. I'm not I'm not doing what I
Speaker 2: should be. I'm essentially playing rugby and going to class
Speaker 2: a couple of days a week, you know, not doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm really just up there partying is what I was doing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, it's had a tough time learning anything that I
Speaker 2: don't want to learn same, It's always been really difficult
Speaker 2: for me, and so I'm up there at home that
Speaker 2: summer and I'm just kind of sulking around. Man, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all my buddies are gone, don't really have anybody to
Speaker 2: hang out with, working the same job I had when
Speaker 2: I was fifteen, not doing great in school, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be going back to school. But I'm thinking like, man,
Speaker 2: like if I can't get it together, dude, like what
Speaker 2: does my life look like? It was essentially having this moment.
Speaker 2: Sure this summer, which is you would think would be
Speaker 2: the funnest summer ever because you're twenty one. You're like,
Speaker 2: you can go out to the bars now whatever. Cool,
Speaker 2: Well there's nobody to go to the bars with, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Right, And I'm in the town.
Speaker 2: It's like Asheville is an amazing town, but anybody that
Speaker 2: grows up in an amazing place, it's not amazing to them.
Speaker 2: It's the place that they grew up, right, And so
Speaker 2: I remember sitting there. I was sitting on my little
Speaker 2: side the carpoard at my parents' house, and my mom
Speaker 2: came out and she was like, what is wrong? Like
Speaker 2: what is going on? I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: I hate friends here and I'm working this job, and
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm just giving her the woe
Speaker 2: is Me story, you know, and she said, to have
Speaker 2: told the story main time, so forgive me if you've
Speaker 2: heard it, which I'm super Yeah. So she comes out
Speaker 2: and she says, well, and I've been singing forever. I
Speaker 2: just liked it, like to do it, was good at it,
Speaker 2: enjoyed it whatever. Never in any way was going to
Speaker 2: pursue that. It's just something that I enjoyed, joyed hobby
Speaker 2: that I really enjoyed. And maybe you know my middle
Speaker 2: class upbringing, you know, it wasn't exactly you know, my
Speaker 2: parents always told me you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You know, you can be anything you want to be,
Speaker 2: no matter what. My parents always told me that. But
Speaker 2: I think inherently there's this belief from whatever my upbringing was.
Speaker 2: And my parents worked very normal jobs, hard working you
Speaker 2: know it, could but could never get ahead kind of folks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think there's this inherent thing that hangs over you
Speaker 2: that's like, well, why shoot for the stars if you.
Speaker 1: Can never reach them.
Speaker 2: I completely agree, And my parents always told me you
Speaker 2: can do anything, you can be whatever you want. My
Speaker 2: parents were the most encouraging people of ever, dude, and
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But there's a part of you of any guy that
Speaker 1: a or any person god realism, they start setting in.
Speaker 1: It's like, if I don't get moving like yesterday, there's
Speaker 1: a good chance I'm gonna be forty and my parents'
Speaker 1: basement working in funds one with Tim and Dole, for sure.
Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily that you can't go do anything,
Speaker 1: but you've got to get started at it. And when
Speaker 1: you're that in this spot, you don't even know how
Speaker 1: to get started for sure.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't even that. But I'm saying until my
Speaker 2: mom walked out on the on the car port, that
Speaker 2: moment hadn't even happened yet. I was just going, my god,
Speaker 2: my life's going to be terrible.
Speaker 1: What do I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just stuck here, I'm still And that was, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? Like I'm not probably not
Speaker 2: going to finish school like I'm you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: piling student debt on top of oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, debt.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that I can't afford and
Speaker 2: ultimately I'm going to walk away with nothing and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be sixty thousand dollars in debt working nothing
Speaker 2: minimum Way's job. That was where my brain was at
Speaker 2: that time, yep, And so my mom walks out. She goes,
Speaker 2: they had bought me a guitar and in seventh grade
Speaker 2: in middle school, so to twelve or twelve, yeah, thirteen,
Speaker 2: seventh grade, twelve, and.
Speaker 1: She walked out. She was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: You know, moms are always trying to why don't you go, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, play with some chalk and the driveway, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like they're always like.
Speaker 1: Trying to board. What do you you've got?
Speaker 2: You could go running in the woods or you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like everywhere?
Speaker 1: Rights, why don't you go ride your bicycle?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like, So she comes out
Speaker 2: and she's like, why don't you go play that guitar
Speaker 2: that's in your closet? And I was like what is
Speaker 2: It was one of those Oh yeah, mom, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about? Like that's gonna be like
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to play guitar. And she's like, well,
Speaker 2: Kenny Chesney and Tim McGrath they didn't learn how to
Speaker 2: play guitar till they were twenty one. And I was like,
Speaker 2: well damn. I was like that's I was like, that's
Speaker 2: what if true? I don't even know if that's true.
Speaker 2: By the way, I would love I can't wait for you.
Speaker 2: I've told the story infinity times, and I can't wait
Speaker 2: to know if that's even true. I kind of hope
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 3: I hope it's not because I hope she got you
Speaker 3: off that car port one hundred with that story.
Speaker 2: So I went in my tid, I went in my closet.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I got nothing better
Speaker 2: going on? Really one I went in there, I got it,
Speaker 2: sat on the carpoard out there, and I'm like getting
Speaker 2: my got my cell phone out, and I'm like learning
Speaker 2: how to play a G chord or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like so terrible, yeah, so hard.
Speaker 2: But I just like, I loved singing so much. And
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I mean I loved, you know,
Speaker 2: country music a ton. I'd rediscovered it maybe two years
Speaker 2: before this moment, so I was really really deeply invested
Speaker 2: into at this time because I grew up listening to
Speaker 2: it and then I got out of it. So it
Speaker 2: was so cool for me to, like at nineteen or
Speaker 2: nineteen probably to rediscover my love for my first favorite
Speaker 2: music and then have a decade's worth of music to
Speaker 2: listen to that I.
Speaker 1: Never heard before.
Speaker 2: So I've got a decades worth of new music. It
Speaker 2: was like New Music Friday or whatever, and it was
Speaker 2: a decade's worth of stuff to listen, you know. So
Speaker 2: I listened to everything. Everything's new to me, dude, all
Speaker 2: this all the Chesney stuff, dude, all the Dirk Spinley stuff,
Speaker 2: all that stuff was new Paisley, like, cause I got us.
Speaker 2: You know, when Chesney's probably getting in the game is
Speaker 2: when I was getting out of listening. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: Vince Gill Brooks and Nuns, Travis Tripp Mayonnie Travis. And
Speaker 2: then by the time I'm eight years eight or nine
Speaker 2: years old, I'm out, you know. And then I'm not
Speaker 2: back in until nineteen. So all that music I missed it,
Speaker 2: and so at that time I'm really obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: Eric Church's Carolina record came out my freshman year app Caroline,
Speaker 2: so that Summer Chief came out. Okay, So then I'm
Speaker 2: sitting around and dude, I blow through this, getting like
Speaker 2: getting these chords down, like I'm getting like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can play a G, I can play a D
Speaker 2: can play E minor. Everyone should start with any minor.
Speaker 2: The easiest chord to play. Everyone should and everyone should bar.
Speaker 1: The A chord with one finger.
Speaker 2: Also dead don't try to go three.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so then I well, well, I know what
Speaker 2: I'm going to do for the summer to not be
Speaker 2: bored is to do this right. And then as I
Speaker 2: start doing that, you know, Chief record comes out. You know,
Speaker 2: Springsteen's just blowing my mind. You know that Record's blowing
Speaker 2: my mind, you know, all that stuff is, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, man, like, you know, I had known that
Speaker 2: Eric went to app State right already. He was the
Speaker 2: hometown guy, you know, like especially everybody was bumping him
Speaker 2: at that time up there, you know, especially because it
Speaker 2: was like he's from me, he went to school here,
Speaker 2: like it's kind of the college guy to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was playing that circuit at that time as well, right,
Speaker 2: And so man, I just started learning songs and songs
Speaker 2: and songs. And by I mean twenty two, so this
Speaker 2: would have been summer of two thousand and eleven. So
Speaker 2: by summer of twenty two, I'm living at my grandmother's
Speaker 2: house in Charlotte, going to every open mic night in
Speaker 2: Charlotte the week. I mean, I was going all an
Speaker 2: hour drive to go anywhere to play every night, going
Speaker 2: going up to Mooresville, trying.
Speaker 1: To get me.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get gigs, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've been playing guitar for a year by yourself.
Speaker 2: You're just trying to play solo.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get gigs, dude.
Speaker 2: Like, because I'm like I at this time, I'm dialed in,
Speaker 2: like this is what I'm gonna do. Within a year,
Speaker 2: oh within I would say, by the end of that summer,
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm gonna do. Cool,
Speaker 2: because it was just like life had almost not really
Speaker 2: made sense to me up until that point.
Speaker 1: M Like, I was like, how.
Speaker 2: Does anybody go to college and like get a business
Speaker 2: degree and go I can't wait to do this forever?
Speaker 2: And then I realized, Oh, it's because that's.
Speaker 1: They have to do that.
Speaker 2: Anybody that really enjoys it is really great at what
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 1: That's what they wanted, they wanted.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, this is the thing
Speaker 2: that I've discovered, the thing that I want to do.
Speaker 2: That's oh man, it was it. It was a monumental shift,
Speaker 2: I mean. And then by twenty two, Yeah, summer twenty
Speaker 2: two I'm living my grandmother. I'm back up an app
Speaker 2: for which would what would be my fifth year? You know,
Speaker 2: Victory Lap kind of year. And then I start getting
Speaker 2: gigs in boone up there and it's and then it's yeah.
Speaker 2: At twenty two, I had met Adam Church, and so
Speaker 2: originally how I came upon him is I'm on I
Speaker 2: would go on YouTube. So if I was looking up
Speaker 2: tabs for a song to try to play this, right,
Speaker 2: I would go, Okay, well, if there's no good tab,
Speaker 2: I'll go watch someone else the cover video of it
Speaker 2: and just figure out what he's playing and try to
Speaker 2: figure out what he's playing. You found him through YouTube, Okay.
Speaker 2: I had watched his videos and he a lot of times.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, okay, well he was playing a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff I wanted to play, which was early Brantley stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Eric Church stuff like the al Dean stuff, Luke Bryant stuff,
Speaker 2: Blake Shelton stuff, that stuff that was popular. Then he
Speaker 2: was liking all that same stuff. And so I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get cover gigs and I'm like, well, I need
Speaker 2: to learn whenning out of Moonlight by Randy Hauser, that's
Speaker 2: what people are wanting to hear or whatever.
Speaker 3: Smash all that stuff kind.
Speaker 2: And so his videos would kind of constantly come up. Well,
Speaker 2: about the fifth or sixth video of his that I saw,
Speaker 2: he comes out in.
Speaker 1: A whoa, like what is going on? Is this guy? Like?
Speaker 2: So I just fired him a message off and I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, are you like, do you like
Speaker 2: go to app or like whatever? You know, like I've
Speaker 2: been seeing your stuff or whatever any big time.
Speaker 1: He didn't reach out to me. You know, God Big Tommy,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 6: He did.
Speaker 2: He hit me back, and I was like, dude, he's like,
Speaker 2: I go to APP now, he said, but I used
Speaker 2: to go to when I made those videos.
Speaker 1: I was going to East Tennessee State playing baseball.
Speaker 2: But I'm from Boone. I went to high school. We
Speaker 2: talk high school, and now I'm back and now I'm
Speaker 2: a student that app.
Speaker 1: If Adam Church got to Michael Jackson's status in like
Speaker 1: music popularity, he would still right back every human that
Speaker 1: hit him upon the world. Yep, that is the nicest guy.
Speaker 2: And I mean I would say for sure if I
Speaker 2: if I hadn't met ADM.
Speaker 1: Church, I wouldn't be here. Well for sure, that's awesome man.
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't have been able to do the
Speaker 2: things that I've done without him, Like especially early on.
Speaker 1: And those tough times.
Speaker 2: It was like, because you know, when I was going
Speaker 2: to get when I was getting gigs, it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: three hour gig, and I'm like, I can't play three
Speaker 2: hours worth the covers, Dude, I can half, and he
Speaker 2: can play and a half, you know. And so we
Speaker 2: went and we just gigged and gigged and gigged for
Speaker 2: i mean every three nights a week, you know. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we'd have this place was every other Tuesday, and this
Speaker 2: place was every Wednesday, and this place was every other Thursday,
Speaker 2: and there's another place that was on the other Thursdays.
Speaker 2: And then every Sunday we were here, and then Friday
Speaker 2: and Saturday we'd try to get down to Charlotte. And
Speaker 2: what it was like, so like I'm essentially trying to
Speaker 2: book all this stuff, you know, and and Adam had
Speaker 2: some already had some standing stuff that he let me
Speaker 2: get in on, you know, and it was like and
Speaker 2: then I'm like quickly and I'm making you know, enough
Speaker 2: money to pay way beyond pay my rent that can
Speaker 2: be comfortable absolutely, And I'm like, dang man, like, what
Speaker 2: if this keeps going? What if I could scale this
Speaker 2: thing into something bigger across the world. It's freaking wild,
Speaker 2: it really.
Speaker 1: Is, man, it's so nuts.
Speaker 3: Were you writing songs during that where you and Adams
Speaker 3: had just started?
Speaker 2: I started, probably wrote my first song at twenty two.
Speaker 1: I would say, what was it?
Speaker 2: It's called day Drinking, And then I realized, but there
Speaker 2: was a good the song was awful, Okay, But then
Speaker 2: a year or two later, Little Big Town has a
Speaker 2: number one song with dayda Drinking.
Speaker 1: So you're like, hey, I'm on the I go, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll do this. I'm on the trail, dude, like that.
Speaker 1: At least the idea was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the execution is not there, but at least I'm
Speaker 2: coming up with ideas.
Speaker 1: Comes the time, hunt man, my mouth calling it I
Speaker 1: can Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm that's at least was a commercially viable idea
Speaker 2: or successful hit song idea. The execution wasn't there, but
Speaker 2: the idea was there, and so that gave me a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, I was like, well.
Speaker 1: Just keep going and keep going and keep going.
Speaker 2: And first I mean hit I had it was a
Speaker 2: song called Let the Moonshine and I wrote that not
Speaker 2: dissimilar from mississip sipp Moonshine, which is interesting. But I
Speaker 2: went and shot of the you know, by that time,
Speaker 2: I mean, we had played so many gigs and it
Speaker 2: turned into such a thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, is the video still on YouTube. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it is somewhere. I'm sure it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we I mean by the end of my
Speaker 2: time there, like when I was getting ready to move
Speaker 2: to Nashville in twenty fourteen, I mean, we were crawling
Speaker 2: in the window of places just to get in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean there were so many people that we had
Speaker 2: to open the window where the stage was literally in
Speaker 2: the stage literally because there were so many people in
Speaker 2: there trying to get in there see us. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's still that way. It's crazy. It's still that way. Man.
Speaker 1: I know you're not going to brag on it yourself.
Speaker 2: But I didn't think it would ever get, you know,
Speaker 2: to where it is now. And then let's fast forward. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what twelve years?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve to twenty twenty four and yeah, bro, you
Speaker 3: just had one of the most iconic Grammy moments.
Speaker 1: Of all time, of all time.
Speaker 2: Crazy dude, Yeah, can you talk about how that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that moment kind of it felt like it was crazy. Mean,
Speaker 2: it really was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it started you know when I went to
Speaker 2: cut Fast Car. That was when I was making my
Speaker 2: last record and Jonathan tried to talk.
Speaker 3: Me out and cutting and that's this is you wanted
Speaker 3: to cut this song because it's one of the first songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of my first favorite songs, one of
Speaker 2: my first memories with music. Yeah, probably my first favorite song.
Speaker 2: I would think kind of just show it an ode
Speaker 2: to it, right for sure, and really just I had
Speaker 2: done a cover of it in my man cave thing
Speaker 2: during over COVID and I had played been playing that song.
Speaker 1: For playing that lag song.
Speaker 2: Forever, right, And so get in the studio. It's one
Speaker 2: of these things where we have an extra you know,
Speaker 2: we're cutting three songs and we have an extra hour
Speaker 2: and a half and I'm like, man, let's do this,
Speaker 2: And Jonathan's like, dude, why would we do that?
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, well, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Doing it like for anyone else, Like I'm not doing
Speaker 2: it because I think it's going to be a hit
Speaker 2: or anything, like I just want to do it, Like
Speaker 2: I just like that song. It's old for me as
Speaker 2: an artist, just for I just think it'd be cool
Speaker 2: to do a cover of it, you know, and that
Speaker 2: song has been covered literally thousands of times literally and
Speaker 2: get in there, cut it, do it, record comes out.
Speaker 2: I got a single out at the time, which I
Speaker 2: think you were on love you anyway right, shut out.
Speaker 2: It could have been kind of lovely making, which I was, yeah,
Speaker 2: any you know, but so and people started, I mean
Speaker 2: it starts, people start sharing that cover and it went insane.
Speaker 2: It went insane, and the country radio started playing it.
Speaker 2: You know, we weren't servicing it, you know, because I
Speaker 2: was never like, man, I'm going to try to put
Speaker 2: this out as a single, And that was like never
Speaker 2: the goal, you know. But sometimes when things just you know,
Speaker 2: when a ball gets rolled down the hill, sometimes you
Speaker 2: can't stop it or.
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that it did.
Speaker 2: But I never wanted to. I wanted to treat that
Speaker 2: song and Tracy with as much reverence as I thought
Speaker 2: that the song and she deserved, right like. I didn't
Speaker 2: want it to look like, oh, well, you know, I
Speaker 2: recorded this song so that I could you know, make
Speaker 2: money off of it, or so that you know, that
Speaker 2: was I can say, you know, I did this or
Speaker 2: I did that about that, right, It's just about loving
Speaker 2: a song that meant a lot to you, you know,
Speaker 2: And maybe that's what resonated in recording or something.
Speaker 1: That's why I felt You're. It felt you're instead of
Speaker 1: gimmicky or hokey. And and and luckily, because it was
Speaker 1: authentic all the way through, it never got to a
Speaker 1: point there was a couple of haters in there that
Speaker 1: try to but the truth always wins out right, and
Speaker 1: and coming from a pure heart with that song, I
Speaker 1: think is what what resonated. And it's why ultimately she
Speaker 1: wanted to pair up with you and do it on
Speaker 1: the Grammys because she understood that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, you know, so we everyone asked me,
Speaker 2: you know that was going on the way you guys talked,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, we haven't. We haven't talked. I
Speaker 2: was like, haven't heard from her, don't have to get
Speaker 2: in touch with her, And so I started hearing whispers.
Speaker 2: I guess it was probably late, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: late summer, early fall that maybe the Grammys was thinking
Speaker 2: about wanting to do it and and gonna try to
Speaker 2: get her to be on there, and but I remember
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that's dude, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She's hard to get in touch with for a reason.
Speaker 2: You know, she doesn't want to be touching you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I can't speak for but that's what
Speaker 2: I That's what I would think. And so I don't
Speaker 2: even think she like has a manager or anything like
Speaker 2: any kind of any of that, like traditional channels.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: So anyways, end up, you know, getting the official word
Speaker 2: from the from the Grammys that they are going to
Speaker 2: want to do this and try to pursue it. And
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that'd be awesome. But I'm still
Speaker 2: like that everyone happened, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: just trying to be again comes back to the upbringing
Speaker 2: of you're just being realistic about it. You try to
Speaker 2: be really right and so as respectful, you don't You're
Speaker 2: not gonna don't want to do something she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to do because I don't want to do stuff I
Speaker 2: don't want to do. I'm shocked, I'm here, you know, no,
Speaker 2: So I and then I start getting that so my
Speaker 2: publicist is the person that eventually gets in touch with
Speaker 2: or knows someone that she's still in touch with And
Speaker 2: that's kind of how the connection because our go between
Speaker 2: was my publicist is coming to me. I was going
Speaker 2: back to her. She's going back to this guy. He's
Speaker 2: going back to Tracy. And that's how it's going. I've
Speaker 2: learned that now.
Speaker 1: That's how it was going. You know.
Speaker 2: At the time, I didn't know really what was happening,
Speaker 2: you know, and so they're like, well, we think, you know,
Speaker 2: it's looking like she's gonna call you. I was in
Speaker 2: the deer stand in my house. It's looking like she's
Speaker 2: gonna call you this evening in around seven or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm giving my son a bath and
Speaker 2: put him down and my wife's doing the baby and stuff.
Speaker 2: And she calls me, you know, and sitting in my
Speaker 2: kitchen by myself, my wife's in there doing the baby
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I mean we talked for forty minutes probably, and.
Speaker 1: I think that that was the like for her, it
Speaker 1: was the like, am I going to do this? You know?
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's this guy see really about? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? At least I think that's maybe what
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, you know, and it was just
Speaker 2: really easy man, we just talked, just talked about music,
Speaker 2: talked about that song. You know, I fangirled for sure,
Speaker 2: but ask her about how do you make this record?
Speaker 2: And what why'd you decide to do this? And it
Speaker 2: was like, which is awesome to get to have that.
Speaker 2: You know, you hardly ever get to have those conversations
Speaker 2: with the people that you admire, and so that was
Speaker 2: really cool, man, and I felk. We just connected on
Speaker 2: that call, and then she agreed to do it. A
Speaker 2: few weeks later, she agreed to do it, flew out
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles on Tuesday. Obviously the show was on Sunday,
Speaker 2: and we rehearsed for a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Dude, just that just to get it right, get it perfect.
Speaker 2: It was perfect, and she hadn't she hadn't performed in
Speaker 2: a long long time, man, so she really wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure it was right and make sure it felt authentic.
Speaker 2: And so, I mean it could have felt more authentic.
Speaker 1: I think it just hit the watcher, which is what
Speaker 1: we were, you know what I mean, just watch that
Speaker 1: like not as our buddy, but just like just watching
Speaker 1: it go down. It just felt extremely respectful and it
Speaker 1: didn't feel disingenuine to me because I know you, right,
Speaker 1: I could see that same excitedness while you were playing
Speaker 1: and singing with her that I saw when you shot
Speaker 1: that Turkey and r zubas. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: it's the same. I know you, I know your body quote.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's your face, like I
Speaker 1: could tell you, you know really anyway, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I'm making a joke about that, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I mean you you, I could tell you were really
Speaker 1: enjoying that moment. That was That's fun to see because
Speaker 1: I feel like you're so for like a better term,
Speaker 1: overstimulated to giant, awesome things all the time. And so
Speaker 1: seeing that like be genuine on you, it was nice. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, not only like the moment you could
Speaker 3: see you having that moment, but you could also watch
Speaker 3: her having that moment. Sure that she never I mean
Speaker 3: you think about it, she she probably never thought she
Speaker 3: would ever stay footback on a Grammy stage, you know.
Speaker 2: And then I can't.
Speaker 1: Say that I blame If I had had a meteoric
Speaker 1: rise and absolutely thing off of it, I probably would
Speaker 1: just want to disappoint hell I wanted to dispair now, but.
Speaker 3: It was just it was so cool to see that
Speaker 3: like you could have been you could have been selfish
Speaker 3: in that thing and and and made that about you
Speaker 3: and your your time in there. But like, dude, that
Speaker 3: that whole thing man was it was it was Tracy
Speaker 3: spotlight man, and and you were there that that was
Speaker 3: so cool for for everybody to watch me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what you kind of wanted to be.
Speaker 1: You know, look at this.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was you good. I'm sure that was important.
Speaker 3: It was important what you were trying to say.
Speaker 2: But it's that part of the show. For the one
Speaker 2: that got.
Speaker 1: That little theme song like that.
Speaker 2: I love that I forgot we dabble.
Speaker 3: I love a theme moment for the one got away, buddy,
Speaker 3: Time for the one that got away.
Speaker 2: The one that got away. I mean no doubt it's
Speaker 2: the deer from the trip this year, Deer from from
Speaker 2: the West Point, MASSI Oak Trip. Travis just just just
Speaker 2: travesty all around.
Speaker 1: It's just horrible. First year I've ever missed, for sure,
Speaker 1: shooting a meat eater. Brandon weatherb first.
Speaker 2: First, Steve, I told Steve, Steve came over recently taught
Speaker 2: me how to trap.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Talk about the trapped.
Speaker 2: Till the dime, Steve. I'm up to a bobcat and
Speaker 2: trying to pop four codys and two raccoons by the
Speaker 2: way in the short by a month.
Speaker 1: Dude, I need some lessons, man, I gotta get real cad.
Speaker 1: We can do it. We can do it.
Speaker 2: So you guys know my trusty three eight that I
Speaker 2: always well, I got some suppressors and stuff now, and
Speaker 2: you know been going that process is so long to
Speaker 2: get to get those, and so I was really excited.
Speaker 1: We got that six five.
Speaker 2: Three hundred, whether it be that meteor gun when we
Speaker 2: shot the episode, mean mean gun, awesome, awesome gun.
Speaker 1: And so it's got to throw a barrel on it.
Speaker 2: So I got this, you know, Primal just dead air
Speaker 2: Primal suppressor, got the adapter for it to fit on them. Like,
Speaker 2: stoked about it, right, get down there. This is the
Speaker 2: first time hunting deer, hunting with this gun. You know
Speaker 2: we shot the antelope with it and stuff. But bring
Speaker 2: it down. Super excited about I'm shooting Suppressed. I'm all in,
Speaker 2: like I want.
Speaker 1: To shoot Suppressed. It's gonna be sick. I'm super excited
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody said, you don't want you start, you
Speaker 2: don't ever go back kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gear boys going back, dude, you're going back.
Speaker 2: I'm going back. I'm done really on everything. I mean,
Speaker 2: not on everything like hunting. Yeah, I don't think I'm out, man,
Speaker 2: I mean I probably just suck at.
Speaker 1: It or whatever. No, you know you don't. I've seen
Speaker 1: you shoot and I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'll give it another shot, but like, I really just
Speaker 2: want to go back, you know, anyways, because you know
Speaker 2: it's another and another story. But so get in there, man.
Speaker 2: We sit. I'm sat with Ray because Ray killed up.
Speaker 1: It's a very well documented story on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah story, yeah, but Ray kills awesome deer first afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pilmated one sixty nuts deer. So the rest of
Speaker 2: the trip he's like, I'm good, So I'll just come
Speaker 2: sit with you to, you know, till you get something.
Speaker 2: And we sat in the same field.
Speaker 1: Every day, every set, every day, every set, every day,
Speaker 1: every set.
Speaker 2: And about the third day, this awesome, awesome, super tall
Speaker 2: easy comes eight eight hammer eight comes out. I mean,
Speaker 2: old dude, nabby stuff going on, and I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Man, there's all these dough out in.
Speaker 2: This field and he comes out, man and he guy,
Speaker 2: he stops. I'm looking at him in my scope and
Speaker 2: I'm like, gods, like, I'm about to hammer this thing's broadside,
Speaker 2: just standing there, you know, like dah, you know, and
Speaker 2: I can't really tell, you know, with the gun to
Speaker 2: get kind of jumping and stuff.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell if I hit him in.
Speaker 2: Ray didn't have his knocks up because he has one binocular.
Speaker 2: But anyways, I'm like, I don't know if I hit
Speaker 2: it or not. I felt good about the shot, like
Speaker 2: hundred pcent confident in my placement, you know, about my
Speaker 2: shooting and stuff.
Speaker 1: For sure, it's all of it. I feel really good
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: That's all I've had to have hit him, dude, because
Speaker 2: they all kind of take off and stuff and we
Speaker 2: get down there no blood anywhere. That don't really mean nothing.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean really anything. And ultimately we find out,
Speaker 2: you know, it ain't he ain't he's not down got away.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sheesh, that stinks.
Speaker 2: Next day we go down, I'm like, well, maybe we
Speaker 2: just try to check the rifle, see if it's fourteen
Speaker 2: inches off. The scope was fourteen inches off, okay, so
Speaker 2: way off shout. I'm feeling way better about this. So
Speaker 2: then we're dialing in.
Speaker 1: We're hitting bottle caps at three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got us dial on these things, and
Speaker 2: so I feel really good about it. So I go sit.
Speaker 2: Two more days of sitting in there, last freaking sip comes,
Speaker 2: last sit and there's rain.
Speaker 1: Set up for an amazing triumph, set up for just
Speaker 1: the best. Dude.
Speaker 2: It's about to rain, and I'm leaving that night. It's
Speaker 2: starting to get it's probably probably thirty.
Speaker 1: Minutes a light left, you know, big deer time. It's
Speaker 1: big deer time. Here he comes out.
Speaker 2: It's the same scene. Man, the does are out there,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, like I'm getting my shot, Like
Speaker 2: I'm no doubt I'm knocking this deer down, dude, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about it. And he comes out. He
Speaker 2: gets broadside again, but there's a there's like kind of
Speaker 2: a there's probably yearling in front of him, dough blocking
Speaker 2: his all his vitals and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, dad, Jim, that stings, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like, but he's gonna walk, you know, he'll move
Speaker 2: or whatever. He starts walking. You know, I'm down in
Speaker 2: the scope or whatever. And as I'm down in there
Speaker 2: watching him, I realized that he's reached he's walked out
Speaker 2: because that field's playing it in clover or some winter
Speaker 2: weed or something. It's super green, super green field, but
Speaker 2: on the edges of the field it's really that just
Speaker 2: kind of dead grass. You know, it's mowed down and stuff,
Speaker 2: but it's dead grass. And then it's woods. So in
Speaker 2: my scope I can see him standing at the transition
Speaker 2: from the green to the brown, and he's not stopping
Speaker 2: at all, and he's probably tearing fifty yards away at
Speaker 2: this point, and he's maybe quartering towards me just a
Speaker 2: little bit, not much, but just a little bit. And
Speaker 2: he's not walking very fast. I mean, he's not on
Speaker 2: a mission or nothing. He's just kind of slowly strolling.
Speaker 2: But I realized that this is this deer is walking
Speaker 2: in the woods and coming back out. He's walked out
Speaker 2: to check these dose or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's last night, This is it. This is a shot.
Speaker 2: No, he's not gonna stop, you know, And and Ray's like,
Speaker 2: oh you you know in that moment, and Ray was saying,
Speaker 2: do you want me to stop him?
Speaker 1: But I'm like, waitin't gonna stop me. He's turning fifty
Speaker 1: yards away. He's not gonna stop.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna go, you know, like he ain't even
Speaker 2: gonna hear it, you know what I mean. You had
Speaker 2: to scream even look at you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So I decide, you know, I'm gonna take the shot.
Speaker 2: I feel good about it, you know. I just put
Speaker 2: it a little bit in front of his shoulder kind
Speaker 2: of thing, hoping it will kind of walk into it,
Speaker 2: you know, and I just missed. Man, I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened. I was still really confident in the shot,
Speaker 2: and obviously the gun was dialed at this point.
Speaker 1: Have they seen that deer? Said that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was right kind of the end of
Speaker 2: the season. But remember it started, so we go out
Speaker 2: to look and it starts raining. Well, now, now I'll
Speaker 2: tell you this. We got out there, I probably had
Speaker 2: five minutes to look for blood for started raining.
Speaker 1: And there wasn't any. The other wasn't.
Speaker 2: I ain't making no excuses. I mean, I'm flat I
Speaker 2: missed the steer. There's no we knew exactly where that
Speaker 2: deer was. And I'm like, and so you know, everybody
Speaker 2: went out and looked the next morning because I had
Speaker 2: to leave and stuff, and they're like, man, we're.
Speaker 1: Really confident that this deeer ain't down.
Speaker 2: You know, so I'd love why when they got away?
Speaker 3: Man, And I mean, you have hunted long enough now
Speaker 3: to know that, which freebody knows. Man, there's time that
Speaker 3: if you're going to miss him, and it was time,
Speaker 3: you know, it was time for that to happen.
Speaker 2: And hopefully he'll you know, hopefully it'll be around next year.
Speaker 2: It'll be love to I'm you know, love, I'd love
Speaker 2: to see him again.
Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe the story is not over.
Speaker 3: I thought you're one got away it was going to
Speaker 3: be the two hundred and thirty something and that you
Speaker 3: still think about that all right? Now it is time
Speaker 3: for gavorite country song Gravorite in your brain.
Speaker 1: We already explained it. Mm hmm, gosh, what a hard
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Speaker 2: I mean, Lightning Eric Church is up there for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I thought of it. It's either
Speaker 2: Lightning Eric Church or go rest high on that mountain fence.
Speaker 1: Can that's high?
Speaker 2: I mean that song is high Yeah, that's probably the
Speaker 2: right key, I would imagine. I mean, that's even higher.
Speaker 3: Go, that's even higher to go to the days like.
Speaker 2: God wrist get it, son your word.
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Speaker 1: Show before the fun other rain.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, that is probably one of the greatest.
Speaker 5: I know you own owner earths true only could know pa.
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Speaker 2: To the rain do one, of course, go Reston.
Speaker 5: And sign your work.
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Speaker 5: Go to hay.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We all did it before the fun Yeah, those Vent's
Speaker 2: melodies or something else.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, you got what you got comed at twenty
Speaker 3: four man got new music, you've been in the studio.
Speaker 2: We got a tour coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I got new music going.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a chance, you know, there's a chance of that.
Speaker 2: But really uncertain, honestly on that. That's probably the worst
Speaker 2: answer you could have. But really uncertain on that. Obviously,
Speaker 2: tours happening, you know, some students, some stadium shows this year,
Speaker 2: one or two festival shows.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's not.
Speaker 2: It's my lightest year touring one, it's in a long time.
Speaker 2: But most tickets ever, it's crazy that happens.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what you say it forever, talk to
Speaker 1: you forever. We love you. Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2: Man, it's pretty sick. I didn't change any lives. Man,
Speaker 2: Hope you get there appreciate that. It's fun. It's fun
Speaker 2: doing life with you. We got two kids. We got
Speaker 2: two kids. What I'm gonna say about that? And we're
Speaker 2: kind of like we're all in this boat, you know.
Speaker 3: Together, different size boats, but yeah, yeah, yeah man, we
Speaker 3: just hammered out for two hours.
Speaker 1: Sis is gonna kill me. He's been texting me the
Speaker 1: whole time. But you coming today.
Speaker 3: Thank you' all for listening, Thank you for supporting God's Country.
Speaker 3: Thank you Elsie for for coming on. We love y'all
Speaker 3: and we'll catch you next time. Thanks guys, you all
Speaker 3: stick with us.
Speaker 2: Don't know where you get here.
Speaker 1: M