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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 4: Big week ahead, gentlemen. We've got the rookies reporting on

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Speaker 4: Thursday for a mini camp this weekend. The veterans still

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Speaker 4: in the building. It is now phase two of the

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Speaker 4: off season strength and conditioning program. But the major storyline

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Speaker 4: is something that the gentleman, to my rights, mister Paul

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Speaker 4: calbcaka Sideline Reporter, is anxious to know how many bad

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Speaker 4: weather trips are there in store for the Cardinals. In

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, as we have the regular season schedule

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Speaker 4: release officially announced Thursday at five pm.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of potential here, Craig the lot. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 5: there is a lot of potential land minds. When you're

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Speaker 5: at Chicago, you're at Cleveland, you're at Philly, Pittsburgh, even Washington. Right,

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Speaker 5: So okay, let's see. Let's see what the schedule gods

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Speaker 5: have in mind for the road trips this year. Eight

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Speaker 5: home games, nine road trips. We'll see where the bye

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Speaker 5: week is, how many primetime games there might be. But

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Speaker 5: for you, Kyle, as a player, obviously, things have changed

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Speaker 5: a lot. This has become a major events in the

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Speaker 5: off season. I guess it was not when you were playing,

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Speaker 5: But did you pay attention to the schedule? It just cared, Hey,

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Speaker 5: tell me what we are We've wont Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 5: little of both.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, you want to know who you play first. You

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Speaker 6: want to start to gear up for that, get an

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Speaker 6: But you know, the longer I was in the League.

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Speaker 6: Actually I preferred, you know, one pm kickoff every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You just.

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Speaker 6: You thrive with routine, right, You don't want, you know,

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Speaker 6: You just for me, you know, year six, seven, eight nine.

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Speaker 6: You just want to get into your routine so that

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Speaker 6: you can perform. Now, it's different for other players. You

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Speaker 6: know that some players perform much better in those primetime

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Speaker 6: So it's it's you know, guys look at a number

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Speaker 6: of things, but I think the biggest thing for this

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Speaker 6: what does our stretch look like like with Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: In fact, that being said, I really do hope that

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Speaker 5: of those marquee QB matchups the second half of the season.

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Speaker 5: Kyler and Lamar Jackson. I mean, that's great stuff. It

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Speaker 5: So I hope some of the lesser matchups those opponents,

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Speaker 4: By the way, the eleventh toughest schedule based off of

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Speaker 4: records from a year ago. The Cardinals will play nine

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Speaker 4: again that will be announced on Thursday. The matter at hand, though,

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Speaker 4: it's been a couple of weeks and we have not

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 6: You know, we talked about going into this draft, we

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Speaker 6: And you know you got this, you got a new staff,

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Speaker 3: Whether it be a guard or whether it be a tackle.

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Speaker 6: He is tremendously talented, tremendously athletic, and you know, a

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Speaker 6: loves football. He's got tremendous football IQ and will be

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Speaker 6: tough to be a leader, you know, when you come

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Speaker 4: Graduated in three years a degree in journalism. Speaking of journalism,

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Speaker 4: Steve Weiss, chief national reporter for the NFL Network, a

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Speaker 4: guess recently on the Big Red Rage his thoughts on

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Speaker 4: the Paris Johnson junior selection.

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Speaker 7: To be able to trade back trade up, still get

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Speaker 7: Paris Johnson at six, I mean that was huge. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Paris is a man.

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Speaker 7: Now, that's a that's a big slice of dude question.

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Speaker 4: Now, though Paul is, as Kyle pointed out, he can

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Speaker 4: Because the rookie mini camp, you might not have enough

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Speaker 5: I mean you could, honestly, I could see him in

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Speaker 5: I could see them kicking him out to right tackle

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Speaker 5: He could be your swing guy. So I mean, if

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Speaker 5: then I'm guessing he's the opposite DJ Humphreys at least

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's really an intriguing question. Where are they

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Speaker 5: Because you know what, when they open Week one, he's

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Speaker 4: Certainly, don't want to assume anything but the fact that

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Speaker 4: he did. Talking about Paris Johnson Junior play both sides

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Speaker 6: No, and not only did he play multiple positions in college,

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Speaker 6: he is a prototype left tackle, with his athleticism, his

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Speaker 3: I think that's where he will land eventually.

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Speaker 6: But it just remains when what that timeline looks like

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Speaker 6: I think you know they're gonna experiment with him early.

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Speaker 6: You know, you depending on where he's at, you can

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Speaker 5: So those are our thoughts.

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Speaker 4: What about the thought as the head coach, Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 8: He's obviously played outside and inside. You know, we just

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Speaker 8: So we'll put the best guys out there and hopefully

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Speaker 4: In the past game, Paris would not be the first

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Speaker 4: Paul is look at the All Pro team from this

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Speaker 5: Look, you go back to Big Leonard Davis, right back,

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Speaker 5: Danny Green said, you're making too much money. You got

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Speaker 5: know is based on early returns, he has the mindset

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon is looking for. Because we asked him how

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Speaker 5: or that's a perfect match and you can understand why

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Speaker 4: Certainly sounds like Kyle It's one of those the where

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Speaker 4: you say, like, where's that aggressiveness? And it's easier to say,

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Speaker 4: And don't forget, it wasn't just Paris that the Cardinals

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Speaker 8: Feel really good about how he came out of the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take your word for it. I just have

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Speaker 4: Nine draft picks four on offense, five on defense, and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about coming into this draft. You know,

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Speaker 4: And there's an opportunity there, Paul. You look at what

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Speaker 5: You know Cam Thomas, where does he ultimately project? We

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Speaker 4: You look at what else this Cardinals team did in

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Speaker 4: guys that Gannon and Rawlis say, Hey, this could be

438
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Speaker 4: our interior on that linebacker group that we like long term.

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Speaker 5: So Robert sala the head coach of the Jets, they

440
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Speaker 5: took some six foot eight tight end in round seven.

441
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Speaker 5: He had all these crazy measurables. He had like a

442
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Speaker 5: forty inch vertical at six 't eight. He used to

443
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Speaker 5: be a state champion hurdler. And Robert Salaz said, you

444
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Speaker 5: know what, there's an old saying in the war room

445
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Speaker 5: that on the final round of the draft, or late

446
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Speaker 5: in day three quote, always take the freak who loves ball,

447
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Speaker 5: That's all. And Papo is it not? I mean Twitter

448
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Speaker 5: andle is at the freak. You look at all his measurables,

449
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Speaker 5: You look at the speed, the four three nine, you

450
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Speaker 5: look at everything he's able to do at that inside

451
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Speaker 5: linebacker position. Zamon Collins has moved outside. Where is Isaiah Simon?

452
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Speaker 5: So what is that inside linebacker spot gonna look like?

453
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Speaker 5: And if he can fly around sideline to sideline you know,

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Speaker 5: even the kid out of ASU, Kyle Soley, you know

455
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Speaker 5: he look, he was very productive. He had a lot

456
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Speaker 5: of starts. And guess what his old position coach is

457
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Speaker 5: on this Cardinal staff and Rob Rodriguez. I mean, I

458
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Speaker 5: know he's he's a complete long shot. But once again,

459
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Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be an opportunity for some of

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Speaker 5: these kids to come in and make an impression right away.

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Speaker 4: Papo forty one career starts. Last year, Kyle led the

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Speaker 4: team in tackles with ninety three. Told the media he

463
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Speaker 4: can also play a little bit outside, maybe even line

464
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Speaker 4: up as a slot corner at times. But six feet

465
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Speaker 4: two twenty five, how about we just focus on one

466
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Speaker 4: spot and moving sideline to sideline because of that four

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Speaker 4: to three nine speed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I across this stat he has

469
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Speaker 6: the fastest linebacker forty tied for the fastest linebacker forty

470
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Speaker 6: since two thousand and three, tied with Isaiah Simmons. I mean,

471
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Speaker 6: so you've got two of the fastest linebackers in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's that's twenty years of linebackers running at

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Speaker 6: the combine. So you know, that's one thing you can't

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Speaker 6: coach you can't coach speed. And when you have a

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Speaker 6: particularly like Paulie was talking about, you have the guy

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Speaker 6: in the middle of the field that he has the

477
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Speaker 6: ability to get from sideline to sideline. That is a

478
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Speaker 6: tremendous asset and you know if he needs time, he's

479
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Speaker 6: a plug and play special teams guy because of the

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Speaker 6: way he plays. And and to Paulie's point, up and

481
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Speaker 6: down these players that we drafted and even the undrafted

482
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Speaker 6: rookies coming in, the one quality they have is they

483
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Speaker 6: love football.

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Speaker 3: You know we were talking about off the air.

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Speaker 6: You know, I coach at high school and recruiters, college

486
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Speaker 6: scouts are coming through and I spoke to one yesterday

487
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Speaker 6: and the first question he asked as he went down

488
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Speaker 6: the list of players does he love football? Does he

489
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Speaker 6: love football? Does he love football? Because you're not left wondering.

490
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Speaker 6: You can take this freak that takes plays off, that

491
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Speaker 6: has up and down games, and you're always left wondering.

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Speaker 6: You don't know what you have on Sunday when you

493
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Speaker 6: are going out on the football field. But when you

494
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Speaker 6: have guys that are gritty, that are tough, that love

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Speaker 6: football and love the process, you know what you have

496
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Speaker 6: and you can be confident every game and every practice

497
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Speaker 6: you're going to get their best. And that's what I see.

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Speaker 6: That's the common characteristic of this draft class, is just

499
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Speaker 6: their love for the game and their football.

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Speaker 5: Like you.

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Speaker 4: Another draft pick to highlight Day three selection Dante Stills.

502
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Speaker 4: I mentioned him defensive tackle for no other reason, Paul,

503
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Speaker 4: just because of the need for that interior pressure. Orshan

504
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Speaker 4: Lawrence Lecky Pote to Manny Jones. Yeah, you have LJ. Collier,

505
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Speaker 4: but you're taking a flyer on him if you really

506
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Speaker 4: don't have someone there that you, at least for me,

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Speaker 4: feel confident about me.

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Speaker 3: Think about it.

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Speaker 5: Dante Still has played in fifty eight games in his

510
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Speaker 5: college career at West Virginia, two times first team All

511
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Speaker 5: Big Four. He has the size of six three and

512
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Speaker 5: a half almost two ninety. He's played up and down

513
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Speaker 5: the line. He says he's gonna fit best at a

514
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: three tech or a five technique, but yeah, he can

515
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Speaker 5: come in. He can absolutely get into rotation. There's a

516
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Speaker 5: reason they gave the undrafted Jacob Slade out of Michigan

517
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Speaker 5: State two hundred grand guaranteed because that is a position

518
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Speaker 5: of meat.

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Speaker 4: Dante Stills telling the media, I'm a total package. We

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Speaker 4: will see rookies here later this week on the field

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Speaker 4: on product. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen ten.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Hurry, you are ridiculous, Urry Magic. Nasty is as

524
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Speaker 2: nasty does, and we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty,

525
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Speaker 2: the stuff you see in dreams and in video games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have a great relationship.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a direct reflection of me.

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Speaker 8: The vision that we have for him is is to

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Speaker 8: mate his skill set.

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Speaker 3: You say, well, that's kind of general. No, it's not.

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Speaker 8: He can throw it over your head. He can beat

533
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Speaker 8: you on first, second, and third level throwing it, and

534
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Speaker 8: he can beat you on the first, second, third level

535
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Speaker 8: running it.

536
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Speaker 5: Truly a dual threat.

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Speaker 4: But when will we see that dual threats on the

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Speaker 4: field in twenty twenty three? That is the big question.

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Speaker 4: As we say welcome back. It is the Cardinals Red

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Speaker 4: Sea Report, presented by a Sea Geek, Your Ticket to

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Speaker 4: Great Seats, Craig Rea, lukav Anabash and Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 5: The Voice you heard head.

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Speaker 4: Coach Jonathan Gannon an interview that Paul You did moments

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Speaker 4: after Gannon was introduced to the media, Big Red Rage

545
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Speaker 4: was the show, and that was a SoundBite that really

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Speaker 4: stuck out to me because it immediately sets the foundation

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Speaker 4: between relationship between head coach and QB one.

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Speaker 5: And there are a couple of things about that sound

549
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Speaker 5: by First off to me that I think that was

550
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Speaker 5: the defensive coordinator and Jonathan Gannon coming out just the

551
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Speaker 5: sleepless nights when you're playing a dual threat quarterback like

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, not just a guy who's able to run it,

553
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Speaker 5: but a guy who's poke potentially faster than anybody you

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Speaker 5: have playing defense. That's the sort of sleepless nights you

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Speaker 5: will get going against the Lamar Jackson's and Kyler Murray's

556
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Speaker 5: of the world. And then I think you heard a

557
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Speaker 5: guy who realizes the importance of that connection, that the

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Speaker 5: quarterback is an extension of him out on the field,

559
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Speaker 5: that the quarterback must be that leader. What Kelvin Beacham

560
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Speaker 5: said this offseason about the need to mature that all

561
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Speaker 5: plays into this. That Kyler Murray isn't just the quarterback,

562
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Speaker 5: He's the face of the franchise. He is the heartbeat

563
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Speaker 5: of the team, both on the sideline and in the huddle.

564
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Speaker 5: So yes, that for this thing to work the head

565
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Speaker 5: coach and the quarterback. One plus one must equal three.

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Speaker 4: We have not seen, we have not heard from Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: We have seen him briefly. He was out on the

568
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Speaker 4: field off on the side during the extra mini camp

569
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Speaker 4: that the veterans had because you've got a first year

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Speaker 4: head coach.

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Speaker 3: We've seen Kyler.

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Speaker 4: Murray and Hollywood brown Out and a bouts at a

573
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Speaker 4: recent Phoenix Sun's playoff game. So yeah, Kyler Murray one.

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Speaker 4: Most importantly Kyle, he's in town number two. He's in

575
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Speaker 4: this building working out, rehabbing. He's four months post surgery.

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Speaker 4: Question though, we want to know, and we're not going

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Speaker 4: to get an answer, nothing definitive, is okay? Is it

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Speaker 4: four months from now? Is it five months from now?

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Speaker 4: Six months from now? When do we see number one

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Speaker 4: on the football field.

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Speaker 6: Well, to answer that, nobody knows right now. I mean

582
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Speaker 6: it's still too early because no ACL rehab is ever linear.

583
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Speaker 6: You're going to have you know, you might stack back

584
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Speaker 6: to back great days and then you have a little

585
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Speaker 6: bit of a setback, or you have some soreness, or

586
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Speaker 6: you get some swelling, and so you know, you hope

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Speaker 6: that everything is progressing well.

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Speaker 3: But you just never know.

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Speaker 6: And you know, we were just talking about Chase Young

590
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Speaker 6: off the air and look at ACL he's still having

591
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Speaker 6: problems with that. So it's we just don't know. But

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Speaker 6: the thing I love is, by all accounts, this offseason

593
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Speaker 6: is different than others. You know, take the knee injury

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Speaker 6: out of it. Kyler Murray is first in last out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he is here, he is in the building,

596
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Speaker 6: he has invested. And you know why that is. It's

597
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 6: because at the introductory press conference, the head coach said,

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Speaker 6: I took this job because of him. It's because several

599
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Speaker 6: members including the head coach and the GM and the

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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator went out to Kyler Murray's statue unveiling it's

601
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Speaker 6: because of the belief in him. It's because they you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was the reason that they

603
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 6: took Paris Johnson Junior, but Kyler Murray wanted him. And

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Speaker 6: you're showing your support for the quarterback. And to Paula's point, look,

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Speaker 6: your quarterback does need to be the leader. But I

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Speaker 6: get the feeling that Jonathan Gannon is like that with

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Speaker 6: all of his players. And we talked about this before,

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Speaker 6: like as a player, you don't ever want to feel

609
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Speaker 6: like you're just a means to a coach's end. You

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Speaker 6: want to feel like the coach does care about me

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Speaker 6: as a person, wants the best for me and wants

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Speaker 6: to put me in the best position to succeed. And

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Speaker 6: so it you it's a parent that that applies to

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Speaker 6: Kyler Murray. But I get the impression that every player

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Speaker 6: on this roster we'll have a good relationship with this

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Speaker 6: coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: It's almost Paul like a clean slate front office coaching

618
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Speaker 4: staff with the quarterback and whatever has happened in the past,

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Speaker 4: that's in the past. Let's move forward. This is year one,

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Speaker 4: this is day one for Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: Yet they have the benefit of the last four years

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Speaker 5: and learning what did and did not work with Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: That's the competitive advantage this new staff has. And if

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Speaker 5: you read between the lines, this is just me surmising.

625
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Speaker 5: But between Michael Bidwell and the Dave Patch podcasts, between

626
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Speaker 5: Drew Petseen talking to the media, between Jonathan Gannon what

627
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Speaker 5: he said to Peter King shortly after talking about putting

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Speaker 5: Kyler under center more but also simplifying things for this

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Speaker 5: still young quarterback that maybe there was a little too

630
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Speaker 5: much on his plate the last couple of years, maybe

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Speaker 5: too many decisions to be made once they broke the

632
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Speaker 5: huddle or didn't even huddle at all, and it was

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Speaker 5: responsible for him to read that defense, get everyone set,

634
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Speaker 5: even get the pass protection set, especially minus a Rodney Hudson.

635
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Speaker 5: Maybe there was just too much and they're going to

636
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Speaker 5: try and simplify it for a Kyler Murray and you

637
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Speaker 5: know what, and maybe restart that learning curve all over

638
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: again for Kyler. And if you can simplify things, then

639
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: guess what, he's gonna play faster. And when you get

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Speaker 5: Kyler out in space and he's playing fast and he's

641
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Speaker 5: thinking fast, look out because there isn't a faster quarterback

642
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Speaker 5: in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, his reaction is undeniable as far as what he

644
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Speaker 4: can do from step one to step two. When we

645
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Speaker 4: see those steps, well, right now, his steps are in

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Speaker 4: the rehab process. January third was the surgery jail manager

647
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Speaker 4: Money Austin Ford on the Day Patch podcast, where Kyler

648
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Speaker 4: Murray is in that progress.

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Speaker 10: Kyler's here every day. Kyler's grinding, he's working hard, he's

650
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Speaker 10: getting better, he's improving every day. I don't have a timeline.

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Speaker 10: I don't have an update on that. We're going to

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Speaker 10: put him out there when he's ready. He's doing everything

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Speaker 10: he can now. He's in meetings, he's learning, he's trying

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Speaker 10: to take in the new offense and doing what he

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Speaker 10: can on that front. He just can't be out on

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Speaker 10: the field right now, and he is just physically not

657
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Speaker 10: ready to do that. I know he's doing everything he can,

658
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Speaker 10: and when he's ready, we'll get him out there. And

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Speaker 10: we're excited to get him back out there.

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Speaker 4: In the meantime, this team will need a quarterback. Colt

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Speaker 4: McCoy is your veteran in that room, although he did

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Speaker 4: not he was not spotted throwing the football during that

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Speaker 4: voluntary veteran mini camp, whereas he after he was banged

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Speaker 4: up late last season and dealing with an undisclosed injury.

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Speaker 4: According to owner Michael Bidwell, so you bring back David Blow,

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Speaker 4: you add Jeff Driscoll, you bring in or you draft

667
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Speaker 4: Clayton Tone, someone who's a little bit taller, maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: sneaky athletic based off the mobility that he was able

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Speaker 4: to show in Houston. So you've got four guys in there,

670
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Speaker 4: and maybe three if you don't count Colt right now, Paul,

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Speaker 4: that can say, all right, well, we're gonna get through

672
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Speaker 4: the offseason, training camp, preseason, and then then there's going

673
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Speaker 4: to be a battle if Kyler is not ready week

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Speaker 4: one to see who is going to be that week

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Speaker 4: one starter.

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Speaker 5: And look, you have the self proclaimed best could back

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Speaker 5: in the class, which is Clayton Tune. So that'll get

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Speaker 5: us through training camp in some of the preseason games.

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Speaker 5: So I am looking forward to see the rookie out

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Speaker 5: of Houston. I guess here's my question, because ultimately this

681
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Speaker 5: all comes back to a Kyler Murray and Kyle Vannenbosch

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Speaker 5: as a guy who's been there and done that from

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Speaker 5: the torn ACL. Once he's physically ready, how much more

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Speaker 5: of a mountain is there to climb with the mental challenge,

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Speaker 5: especially for a guy who's dealing with his first rehab

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Speaker 5: ever it really his first ever season ending injury of

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Speaker 5: any sort. What do you think the mental challenge is

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Speaker 5: going to be for Kyler?

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Speaker 3: It's there. Look, it's tough.

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Speaker 6: I played the next year after my first ACL injury,

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Speaker 6: But you know, you just do things subconsciously, like when

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Speaker 6: there's people falling around your legs, you back up you

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Speaker 6: see yourself not doing the things that you typically would

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Speaker 6: do until one day it just clicks and you don't

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Speaker 6: you know. I remember, I can remember vividly it always

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Speaker 6: hurt to go downstairs, and then one morning I woke

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Speaker 6: up and went down the stairs and didn't feel anything,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, Wow, that was different. And it's

699
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Speaker 6: like that on the football field as well. Like you,

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Speaker 6: it's always kind of in the back of your mind,

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Speaker 6: like you know, if I make this cut, will I

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Speaker 6: be okay? If somebody falls on my legs? Am I

703
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Speaker 6: gonna be okay? Until it isn't until you're like, oh,

704
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Speaker 6: now I remember.

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Speaker 3: Now this is the old me. I'm back.

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Speaker 6: And so it's really hard to say. Again, every player's

707
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Speaker 6: wired differently, every knee ACL recovery is a little bit different.

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Speaker 6: But to me, that will be the last hurdle, and

709
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Speaker 6: it remains to be seen whether Kyler can get over

710
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Speaker 6: that hurdle this season or he will still be a

711
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Speaker 6: little bit ginger, a little bit tentative for the rest

712
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Speaker 6: of this season, and then with an off season, you

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Speaker 6: forget about the ACL injury. So you know it is

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Speaker 6: a factor though, because I remember, I mean, I was fine,

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Speaker 6: I was running fine. I was in good shape. My

716
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Speaker 6: knee felt great, it was strong, but I wasn't quite

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Speaker 6: the same as I was prior to my end injury,

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Speaker 6: and it took some time.

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Speaker 4: You called it the last hurdle, the biggest hurdle though,

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Speaker 4: that mental block, if you will, if there is one

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Speaker 4: to kind of climb over and say, all right, I'm back.

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Speaker 6: I think so, I think, well, it's just the last one.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's boom here I am, I'm back.

724
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Speaker 6: So I think it is the biggest hurdle is just

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Speaker 6: that mental part of it. And with him, with his

726
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Speaker 6: mobility and the way he's able to put his foot

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Speaker 6: in the ground and make a cut on a dime,

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Speaker 6: because that's how he was injured. You know, that's going

729
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Speaker 6: to be in the back of his mind every time

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Speaker 6: he breaks out of the pocket for you know, for

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Speaker 6: a period of time.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be an ongoing storyline all off season.

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Speaker 4: You get to the regular season. By the way, the

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Speaker 4: regular season schedule released on Thursday five o'clock. Go to

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Speaker 4: So the Cowboys, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, and Giants, and of

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Speaker 4: course the NFC West as well. This is the Arizona

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Speaker 4: Cardinals Radio Network.

741
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Speaker 2: Dulton straight dropback throws over the middle and a one

742
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Speaker 2: handed interception by Isaiah Simmons, A good deal runs it

743
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Speaker 2: back to the left of the morning head, the thirty pat,

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Speaker 2: the twenty five pat, the twenty pad.

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Speaker 8: Simmons in talked Isaiah a lot, really comfortable with where

746
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Speaker 8: we're at with him. He's very comfortable with it, you know,

747
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Speaker 8: the option or whatever. You know, it doesn't change how

748
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Speaker 8: he goes about what he's doing. And he knows he

749
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Speaker 8: has to play well for us and for him, and

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Speaker 8: that's like everybody.

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Speaker 4: It was a big question of the offseason, and now

752
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Speaker 4: a question that was answered, and that is what the

753
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Speaker 4: Cardinals were going to do with respects to Isaiah Simmons's

754
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Speaker 4: fifth year option, an option that was upwards of thirteen

755
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Speaker 4: million dollars guaranteed for twenty twenty four. That option declined

756
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Speaker 4: and now Simmons going into the last year of his

757
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Speaker 4: contract doesn't mean he can't re sign with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: You heard Jonathan Gannon wants to see a little bit

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Speaker 4: more from what Simmons can do within this defense. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest key. Where does Simmons fit

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Speaker 4: within this defense? As we continue here on the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: Red Seat Report presented by Seek Your Ticket to Great Seats.

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Speaker 4: And Yeah, Kyle, you look at the you look at

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Speaker 4: the versatility of an Isaiah Simmons. He can play in

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Speaker 4: the secondary, he can plan up near the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: he can rush to the quarterback. But within this defense,

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Speaker 4: we really don't know what Nick Rowlis wants to do.

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Speaker 4: We have an idea, but what does he want to do?

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Speaker 4: And then how does Simmons fit within that scheme?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's you know, it's not surprising that they didn't

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Speaker 6: pick up the option. I mean, on top of you've

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Speaker 6: got a whole new scheme. You don't know where he's

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Speaker 6: going to fit. You don't know how he's going to adapt,

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Speaker 6: how quickly he's going to learn. Look, he's got all

775
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Speaker 6: the measurables. I mean, he's a phenomenal athlete. He he

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Speaker 6: has shown that he has the ability and a knack

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Speaker 6: for making big plays. He has the ability to play physical,

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Speaker 6: he can he can cover wide outs, he can do

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Speaker 6: just about anything. But you know, the thing we've seen

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Speaker 6: throughout his career is you know, something I talked about

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Speaker 6: in a previous segment was just his consistency. And is

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Speaker 6: it you know, because he'll have a great game and

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Speaker 6: then he will have a game where he has one

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Speaker 6: tackle and it's just the up and the down. And

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Speaker 6: is that because he was moved around so much and

786
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Speaker 6: never had a spot that he could just hone in

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Speaker 6: on and perfect Or is it because of the way

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Speaker 6: he's wired. And I think that this staff and this

789
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Speaker 6: front office doesn't necessarily know the answer to that. And

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Speaker 6: until you put him in a position that he could say,

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Speaker 6: this is my position, this is what I'm looking at.

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Speaker 6: This is the plays that I have to master, and

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Speaker 6: the spot at and the techniques I have to master.

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Speaker 6: Until you give that to him and see how he does,

795
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Speaker 6: I don't know that you can make a definitive decision

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Speaker 6: on his future.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Simmons controls his own future based off

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Speaker 4: his field to play. I mean, Paul, if he if

799
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Speaker 4: he goes off this season and lights it up, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: whether it's the Cardinals or someone else, he'll get that contract.

801
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: He'll get that thirteen million dollars per year. But it's

802
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Speaker 4: on his shoulders and no one else's.

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Speaker 5: You know, Kyle, last week with Drew stan I called

804
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Speaker 5: Isaiah Simmons the NFL's ink blot test. You look at him,

805
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Speaker 5: what do you see? The previous coaching staff saw different things.

806
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 5: They saw five or six different positions in a single season.

807
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Speaker 5: They initially saw him in the inside linebacker room. Last

808
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Speaker 5: offseason they moved him into the safety room. He was

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Speaker 5: with that position group. There were coaches that I would

810
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Speaker 5: talk to last year and say, do you know what,

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Speaker 5: I see him as a bigger, more athletic cam Chancellor

812
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Speaker 5: Adrian Wilson, That's what we're going to do with him.

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Speaker 5: That didn't quite materialize, although we did play that position

814
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Speaker 5: at times. So where does he fit best? And I

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Speaker 5: think until you get an answer to that question, you're

816
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Speaker 5: not going to get an answer to his football future,

817
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Speaker 5: which is a driving reason why he didn't have his

818
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Speaker 5: option picked up. Now I know of the twenty twenty

819
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Speaker 5: draft class easily set the mark for few US fifth

820
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Speaker 5: year options picked up. Ever, he was one of those.

821
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Speaker 5: But once again, by the process of elimination of Zamon

822
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Speaker 5: collin Z already been moved out of the linebacker spot.

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Speaker 5: Does that put Isaiah Simmons back with the inside backers.

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Speaker 5: They've signed a lot of guys in the offseason. They

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Speaker 5: also drafted on Papo So wait a minute, they didn't

826
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Speaker 5: add to the safety room. Not really. So is he

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Speaker 5: still with the safeties. We don't know because we haven't

828
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Speaker 5: seen him out there during a media open session to

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Speaker 5: verify with their own eyes.

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Speaker 4: Well, one person does know. That would be defensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Nick Rowlins, asked about Simmons' role this upcoming season.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I think.

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Speaker 9: Number one is, you get really good at one thing

834
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Speaker 9: and you keep building.

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Speaker 5: Off of that.

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Speaker 9: Again, Isaiah, He's picking up everything that we're installing extremely fast,

837
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Speaker 9: which gets you really excited to say, Okay, let's keep adding,

838
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Speaker 9: let's keep adding, let's keep adding. Because the skill set versatile,

839
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Speaker 9: the intelligence high be able to do a lot of

840
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Speaker 9: different things with one guy to bring out all those

841
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Speaker 9: different skills that he has.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we said you start with one things.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 5: Kyle Vannenbosch, step up to the mic. You're a high

845
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Speaker 5: school coach, you played in this league for over a

846
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: dozen years, You've gone to Pro Bowls. Where do you start?

847
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Speaker 5: If you're Nick Rowless. What is the one thing that

848
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Speaker 5: he does well, or at least the one thing that

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Speaker 5: is the starting position for Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 6: Again, going back to what we talked about earlier, He's

851
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Speaker 6: got that sideline to sideline speed, he's rangy, he's long.

852
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Speaker 6: I think you put him back, you know, at inside linebacker.

853
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Speaker 6: I think he you know, just looking at him, you

854
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 6: don't necessarily see him as a physical player, but we've

855
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Speaker 6: seen him light some dudes up on the football field.

856
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Speaker 6: He can play inside the tackle box and he can

857
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Speaker 6: play sideline to sideline and I think that's what to me,

858
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Speaker 6: that's where I would put him. I mean, I think

859
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Speaker 6: he loves the physicality of the sport. I think he

860
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Speaker 6: loves to stick his face in there, and so you know,

861
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Speaker 6: he wants to be a part of the action. And

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Speaker 6: quite frankly, you know, I know he has the ability

863
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Speaker 6: to cover wide receivers, to be out there and to

864
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Speaker 6: play in space. You know, he showed some deficiencies there

865
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Speaker 6: last year. There was times where he looked confused in

866
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Speaker 6: some of the route concepts and in his coverage and

867
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Speaker 6: dropped coverage. So I think you take some of that

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Speaker 6: off of his plate. Even though he has shown he

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Speaker 6: has the ability to do it. It might not be

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Speaker 6: his forte. I think he's he's a football player. I

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Speaker 6: think you put him inside the box, let him make tackles,

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Speaker 6: and let him just roam sideline to sideline.

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Speaker 4: At six foot four, two thirty eight, yeah, you could

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Speaker 4: put him anywhere outside of the defensive line because he

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Speaker 4: has those measurables, the skill set, just the matter of okay,

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Speaker 4: what can you handle. We know, Paul, he's very, very productive.

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Speaker 4: Ninety nine tackles, four sacks, two interceptions, two forced fumbles,

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Speaker 4: one fumble recovery, and seven passes defense. That was a

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Speaker 4: year ago, playing all seventeen games. But to what we

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Speaker 4: heard from Nick rawlis all right, let's kind of simplify things,

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Speaker 4: going back to our conversation with Kyler Murray, Let's take

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Speaker 4: things off your plate and we can always add to it,

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Speaker 4: but let's figure out what you do best and then

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Speaker 4: work on that.

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Speaker 5: You know, Vance Joseph said upon his arrival that Isaiah

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Speaker 5: Simmons was drafted to cover the tight end. Yet when

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Speaker 5: you saw him against Kelsey and George Kittle, some of

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Speaker 5: the elite tight ends. Yeah, to Kyle's point, he did

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Speaker 5: struggle downfield, keeping up with those guys, you know, with

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Speaker 5: their advanced route running, you know. And then towards the

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Speaker 5: end of last year, Vance Joseph made a revealing comment

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Speaker 5: that he said, you know, Isaiah Simmons really is better

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Speaker 5: in space. So is he suited to play in the

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Speaker 5: front seven. Maybe he's a little more protected at will

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Speaker 5: backer and you can get some a stout defensive line

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Speaker 5: keeping those guards off him a little bit. Then okay,

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Speaker 5: he does have the ability to go sideline to sideline

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Speaker 5: and chase down guys in space, especially against some of

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Speaker 5: these spread offenses. But it's still unknown. Nick Roules, Jonathan

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Speaker 5: Gannon aren't giving any definitive answers how or where they're

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Speaker 5: going to use him. And I think still they don't

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Speaker 5: quite know. There's an idea of what they want to

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Speaker 5: do with him now, and we hear it all the time,

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Speaker 5: Well we need to see them on the grass, and

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Speaker 5: it's become almost cliche with this coaching staff, even though

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Speaker 5: they're brand new Kyle, But and in essence it's true

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Speaker 5: because what looks good, what they think looks good in

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Speaker 5: their head or you draw it up all right, well,

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Speaker 5: can Simmons do it? Can these players do what we

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Speaker 5: think they're capable of doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at this point, it's a lot of projecting, right

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Speaker 6: because I mean he was, like you talked about, he

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Speaker 6: was in the safety room last year.

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Speaker 3: So if you moving back inside.

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Speaker 6: The box, he's got to kind of relearn that whole

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Speaker 6: position all again. And I just want to say, look,

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Speaker 6: this is not a knock on Kyler Murray or Isaiah

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Speaker 6: Simmons when we talk about simplifying their roles. That's football

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Speaker 6: coaching one oh one. Just don't overload any player with

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Speaker 6: too much information, too much responsibility, and then you just

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Speaker 6: let them go. These are premier athletes. You want them

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Speaker 6: to play fast, not hesitate, and not be thinking out.

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Speaker 3: On the football field.

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Speaker 6: You just want them to do what they do and

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Speaker 6: next go out there, execute and make plays.

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