WEBVTT - Schmoozing with Chaiflicks CEO Neil Friedman About His First Original Series

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Strictly Business, the podcast in

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<v Speaker 1>which we speak with some of the brightest minds working

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<v Speaker 1>in the media business today. I'm Andrew Wallenstein with Variety.

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<v Speaker 1>When a streaming service has a brand spelled c hai

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<v Speaker 1>fl i cks, some might pronounce it as chai flex,

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<v Speaker 1>which might be movies for I don't know lovers of

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<v Speaker 1>flavored tea, but if you're Jewish, you're likely to pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>the brand Kai flex, Kai being the Hebrew word for life,

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<v Speaker 1>and today's guest breathed life into this streaming service for

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<v Speaker 1>is rally and Jewish themed movies, TV shows and docs

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<v Speaker 1>nearly three years ago. Now Hi Flix founder Neil Friedman

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<v Speaker 1>is ready to embark on the next big step, the

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<v Speaker 1>brand's first original series. We'll be back with him after

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<v Speaker 1>the break.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back with.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Friedman, CEO and founder of the streaming service high Flix. So, Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>for starters, I'd be remiss in not asking you about

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<v Speaker 1>how the recent tragedy in Israel, how that colors this

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<v Speaker 1>strategy for high Flicks going forward. Certainly it must cast

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<v Speaker 1>quite a shadow over your streaming service and its place

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<v Speaker 1>in the market right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It does in the short run, I think it's we

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<v Speaker 2>had to readjust ourselves immediately to the advertising and social

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<v Speaker 2>media that we're doing. We press pause right away. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be taking advantage of, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>attention of what was going on. We wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>low key and be out of the way. We're storytelling service.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that even without promoting and spending advertising

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<v Speaker 2>or social media money, our subscribers sent a message to

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<v Speaker 2>us by viewing almost in eighty ninety percent of their

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<v Speaker 2>viewership was of the Israeli programming since the conflict started.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want to add one other thing to

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<v Speaker 2>that is that you know, we still are a Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>storytelling service for Jewish stories from all over from all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world, Israel included. And I think it's to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, to be frank, okay, our mission is more

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<v Speaker 2>important now than ever because you know, Jewish culture, Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>history is more precious as a result of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Conflict, I understand. And also so when and where did

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<v Speaker 1>hi Flix get its start.

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<v Speaker 2>We started in the United States and Canada in August

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty with forty titles we had from our

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<v Speaker 2>film distribution company. In February of twenty and twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>we made a deal or arrangement with an Australian distribution

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<v Speaker 2>company that became our partner in Australia and New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>So we expanded from the US and Canada to Australia

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, and three months ago we expanded into the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're in five of the English speaking territories around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I guess. The only one that we're not

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<v Speaker 2>included in that category of South Africa, which you know

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<v Speaker 2>we probably will go back and do so.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have plans beyond those five?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we do. We have plans to expand in Europe

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<v Speaker 2>and Latin America as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point, can you say how many subscribers

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have had an amazing run over the last three years, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 2>we have surpassed our goals on subscriber levels at every

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<v Speaker 2>step of the way. We have been happily surprised about

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<v Speaker 2>the excitement and the depth of interest in this channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the storyline of our growth and expanding into

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<v Speaker 2>the UK, for instance, lately, has come from the interest

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<v Speaker 2>from outside, not us seeking that territory, but getting emails

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<v Speaker 2>and letters even from the UK asking us to expand

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<v Speaker 2>into the UK. We are very happy with our subscriber

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<v Speaker 2>growth to date. We are a successful company and the

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<v Speaker 2>future is really bright.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I take it. I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>an exact number out of you, but let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this, is there a Jewish market that you have

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<v Speaker 1>sized up globally? Is there a target number you're going after.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been involved in the Jewish space for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years now from the film distribution company that I was

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<v Speaker 2>involved in that I'm still involved with. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a new exploration for me to extend into the Jewish space.

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<v Speaker 2>Over those twenty years, have developed expertise in the Jewish space.

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<v Speaker 2>We've handled films not only for North America but for worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what I focused on in my career

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<v Speaker 2>since I since nineteen ninety eight when I started the

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<v Speaker 2>start the film distribution company, I've focused on just one area,

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<v Speaker 2>built up my expertise and therefore I'm walking into high Flix.

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<v Speaker 2>When we started high Flix with a whole group, long

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<v Speaker 2>list of relationships, trust, expertise. Know how that is I

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<v Speaker 2>think unique to us and what we had done over

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<v Speaker 2>that period is released two hundred and fifty Jewish themed films,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an incredible amount of films, and we built

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<v Speaker 2>up that expertise from distribution of those films and during

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<v Speaker 2>the course of that film distribution company's life prior to

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<v Speaker 2>kay Flicks, we started to get into a TV series

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<v Speaker 2>world because we were asked by an Israeli network to

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<v Speaker 2>release three TVs Israeli TV series through the Jewish Film

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<v Speaker 2>Festival circuit in North America. And that was dipping our

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<v Speaker 2>toe in the in the series of the TV world

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<v Speaker 2>when we in the past, so we were from that

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<v Speaker 2>experience and that new area for us right then and

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<v Speaker 2>there we decided that we were going to develop into

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<v Speaker 2>a streaming service, and we had put together business plans

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<v Speaker 2>after that experience, and we were ready to go, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the pandemic happened, and then we decided that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no reason to delay to a date later and we

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<v Speaker 2>went the first week of the pandemic. We were all

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<v Speaker 2>set ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense. And so you're basically describing your background at

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<v Speaker 1>Minemsha Films, and obviously clearly this experience establishes can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of a better person to get into this marketplace given

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<v Speaker 1>your background. But I still want to understand how big

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<v Speaker 1>is this global market that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about the streaming world right so, and the

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<v Speaker 2>world has changed. So we're not talking about distribution into

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<v Speaker 2>North American cinemas, and we're not talking about out limited access.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about home availability of programming. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple there's a lot to talk about here. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an incredible amount of programming that's available that was

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<v Speaker 2>that we found, that's available, that has been untapped. And

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<v Speaker 2>even though others had acquired other Jewish or Israeli series

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<v Speaker 2>that people know about, we found out that there was

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent of the terrific available programs were not

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<v Speaker 2>acquired and not available. So we when we started, we

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<v Speaker 2>started with forty minemsha titles that were Jewish theme. We

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<v Speaker 2>had that advantage. That's how we that's how we're able

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<v Speaker 2>to pivot right into the once the pandemic hit, the

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<v Speaker 2>start conflicts right away. But what we also did is

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<v Speaker 2>once the pandemic started and we no long could distribute

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<v Speaker 2>our film district Bausch And Companies films in theaters because

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<v Speaker 2>theaters were closed and film festivals were closed, we spent

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<v Speaker 2>that time immediately into pursuing more of the TV world

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<v Speaker 2>and the other programming world of Israeli Jewish. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to make that. I'm going to go over that again.

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<v Speaker 2>We are Jewish streaming service, and I want everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>understand that much of the programming Israeli, but we are

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<v Speaker 2>worldwide Jewish streaming service. So the first acquisition we made

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<v Speaker 2>for Jewish streaming service is a show called The New

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<v Speaker 2>Black or in Hebrew Shabbat ni Kim, which we now

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<v Speaker 2>have two years, two series, two seasons on the channel,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's one of the most successful series that we have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and mine as well. And this is a series I

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<v Speaker 2>will say that could be on any streaming service. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think when I was referring to our expertise that

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<v Speaker 2>we grew over those twenty years of being a film

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<v Speaker 2>distribution company, part of the reason that we ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with a quality program like The New Black was based

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<v Speaker 2>on that experience, and we've taken that experience and continued

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<v Speaker 2>to grow that experience. We quickly after acquiring The New Black,

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<v Speaker 2>which was our first television series, which really got us

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<v Speaker 2>going right away because everybody loved it, we made a

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<v Speaker 2>three series deal with one of the premiere Israeli television

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<v Speaker 2>networks called Yes Studios. So in the first eight to

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<v Speaker 2>ten months of the company we already had. We were

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<v Speaker 2>off to the races as far as TV was concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've only expanded into other areas of programming. We

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<v Speaker 2>now have thirty five TV series on the channel, not

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<v Speaker 2>all Israeli. We have a wonderful Swiss series, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful polar series, and you will see series from

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. But I want to emphasize something.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something in the water in Israel. How So, the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of the of the creative pool there is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>unique and specific to that country. Whatever way you want

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<v Speaker 2>to analyze it, pound for pound, it is no question

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<v Speaker 2>the best talented TV pool in the world. Well it's clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you look at the track record that that

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<v Speaker 1>country has had in terms of exporting those shows, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's the shows themselves or the formats. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>don't even in this country realize how some of not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the biggest shows, but some very successful shows in

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<v Speaker 1>this in the US are based on Israeli formats.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel revolutionized the television business because they exported formats. Yeah so,

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<v Speaker 2>and many of this reel companies have Los Angeles offices

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<v Speaker 2>now because they're really Hollywood players. So that just speaks

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<v Speaker 2>to the ingenuity from the business side of what they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing, but it also speaks to the exceptional quality

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<v Speaker 2>of the programming that was created.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what I would also think bodes well for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Cited earlier, obviously the pandemic was probably a real accelerant

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<v Speaker 1>for high Flix. You know, maybe the stuff the movies

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<v Speaker 1>that people would have gone to theaters for now they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be willing to watch at home while

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<v Speaker 1>they were sheltered at home. But what I would also

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<v Speaker 1>argue was the success of shows like Fouda and Shtistle

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix probably really opened up the appetites for Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>type shows for your service, would you say that was

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<v Speaker 1>also a big factor.

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<v Speaker 2>No question about it. What I want to emphasize there

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<v Speaker 2>is those shows are not just There's the viewership is

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<v Speaker 2>not just Jewish, right, because of the quality of those shows,

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<v Speaker 2>we see the world the same way. And the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I want to emphasize here is those two

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<v Speaker 2>shows that you just mentioned are just the tip of

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<v Speaker 2>the iceberg. How So, there are fifty shows of that

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<v Speaker 2>quality that have been made in the Israeli television business.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been lucky enough to get a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 2>those fifty and they've been very successful on our service,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can continue to acquire and put those undiscovered gems,

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<v Speaker 2>those hidden gems our on our channel. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>we do. We're micro focused on the Jewish storytelling, and

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<v Speaker 2>that gives us an advantage and a focus that other

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<v Speaker 2>streamers don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, although you know, here's the thing though, when I

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<v Speaker 1>there's obviously a vast world of so called niche streamers

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<v Speaker 1>or specialty streamers out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't you think.

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<v Speaker 1>All so that when people think of the Netflixes of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the Amazons, the you know, the the big

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<v Speaker 1>Kahunas out there, that because there's such a vast amount

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<v Speaker 1>of programming on those services, that they've come to expect

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<v Speaker 1>that the kind of libraries that a that a high

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<v Speaker 1>Flix has could be on those premium services instead of

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<v Speaker 1>on a niche player like yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, why, because I think that we're

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<v Speaker 2>The whole idea behind high Flix is one stop shopping

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<v Speaker 2>for a certain kind of subscriber, Okay, that core Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>subscriber who who has a voracious and a very loyal

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<v Speaker 2>attendance to viewing Jewish storytelling and what we've found with

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<v Speaker 2>the series of successes that we've had, especially on the

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<v Speaker 2>television side for us with Shabatanakeam, then with a series

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<v Speaker 2>called Unchained, which w has become a big hit, and

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<v Speaker 2>very recently with a series called The Lesson that once

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<v Speaker 2>these folks binge these series, they go out and look

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<v Speaker 2>at the other eighteen hundred hours of programming that's available

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<v Speaker 2>on high Flix and that's unique to high Flix. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred is just the begin is where we are. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to grow and continue and build the quality

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<v Speaker 2>programming on our channel and continue and continue and continue.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a life pursuit. This is not a this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a pandemic pursuit on our part. We're building

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<v Speaker 2>this channel for preservation of Jewish culture and the storytelling

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll that will that registers in the audience, Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>or otherwise, will register in the word of mouth that

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<v Speaker 2>comes from people's viewing of this quality programming makes people

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch more and come to high Flix more

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<v Speaker 2>and tell others about the channel. We have tremendous word

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<v Speaker 2>of mouth, tremendous, whether it's rabbis at synagogues, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish federations, whether it's the press. And we're building a

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<v Speaker 2>unique streaming service that, although it is Jewish storytelling, it

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<v Speaker 2>will have it has a quality base and a spirit

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<v Speaker 2>that can go beyond just the Jewish audience because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the bad stories that everybody can relate to, not just

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back to help Meil spread the word

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<v Speaker 1>of mouth right after these messages, and we are back

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<v Speaker 1>with Neil Freedman, CEO and founder of the streaming service

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<v Speaker 1>hi Flix. So in terms of how people discover hi Flix,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I caught an interesting statistic. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>firm called Antenna Research that studies specialty and niche streaming services.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month, they just said that two out of every

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<v Speaker 1>three specialty streaming services are discovered through so called aggregators

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<v Speaker 1>like Amazon Channels, compared to just nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>so called premium you know, the big time streaming services.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any arrangement like that for your service or

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<v Speaker 1>you aggregated elsewhere or how do we find you answer?

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<v Speaker 2>You asked a great question, and I'm really happy that

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<v Speaker 2>you asked that question. We've had that decision to make

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<v Speaker 2>from the very beginning whether to go and become a

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<v Speaker 2>channel on Amazon or Roku, et cetera, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's something unique to our channel that's different than any

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<v Speaker 2>other niche distributors. We have a world unto itself. People

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<v Speaker 2>that are on our streaming service US have uncles in

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<v Speaker 2>another part of the world, another part of North America.

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<v Speaker 2>They have friends, friends, they have university roommates. We believe

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<v Speaker 2>that we do not need to be on a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>channel in order to grow, and that's not that's been

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<v Speaker 2>the case. We don't want to give over our channel

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<v Speaker 2>to another platform. We want us We want to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to go in the way that we have been successful

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<v Speaker 2>from day one, which was starting with one subscriber all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up to where we are today, where we're

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<v Speaker 2>continuing every single day to add subscribers. That's the way

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<v Speaker 2>it's worked. It's worked on word of mouth, and then

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's unique to the Jewish space, okay, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to other spaces, but we're going We're banking on that

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<v Speaker 2>and what we and part of that is the experience

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<v Speaker 2>have had at the film Distribution Company in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that our repation as that name Menemsha became a brand

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<v Speaker 2>name in the in the Jewish world in North America

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<v Speaker 2>as big as Mirror Mex. Okay, you, when you narrow

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<v Speaker 2>the world to the Jewish world, Menemsha is a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big brand, and the ki Flix and when it's narrow

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jewish world in the world, is a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big brand, and we want that for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense. And also you don't have to split revenue

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<v Speaker 1>with the aggregator, which certainly helps your business. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that could help ky Flix is a nice

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<v Speaker 1>breakout original hit of your own. So it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are now ready to talk about a first

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<v Speaker 1>original program. Tell us what's what's coming for ki Flix

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<v Speaker 1>on that front?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So we have, as I said to you, we

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<v Speaker 2>now have eighteen hundred hours of programming. It's all fired programming,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not programming, it's third party acquisition programming. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have I'm announcing now with you that we have

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<v Speaker 2>our first original it's called Schmoozing and Cruising and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a kosher food series. Okay, six episodes with a food

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<v Speaker 2>subject matter as the essence of each thirty minute episode.

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<v Speaker 2>One episode is about barbecue, one is about doughnuts, one

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<v Speaker 2>is about coffee, one is about Chinese And in each

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<v Speaker 2>episode you will see three restaurants in different cities in

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<v Speaker 2>the country who highlight who present that kind of food

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<v Speaker 2>as a highlight of their menu. And we're in essence,

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<v Speaker 2>this series is bringing the kosher food world again, something

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<v Speaker 2>that not everybody knows about, not even the Jewish world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of underground to some extent, out into out

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<v Speaker 2>above ground. And this is this is what our mo

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<v Speaker 2>O is with the channel. Overall, we're bringing great programming,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's from Israel, or whether it's from from uh Poland,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether it's from Swiss Jewish programming out into the

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<v Speaker 2>world for the Jewish and audience and and the larger audience.

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<v Speaker 2>We believe, okay, we believe that we're onto something that

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<v Speaker 2>is only going to get bigger, and that in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that you talked about the format rights of

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the Israeli programming being remade in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the home countries, we believe that these stories that

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<v Speaker 2>are that that are that the Jewish storytelling that that

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<v Speaker 2>that we have on our channel are available to others

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the sense that they they're about human experience, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're transferable beyond the Jewish audience.

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<v Speaker 1>So when are we going to start? When do we

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<v Speaker 1>see a first episode hit the service.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the of the original Yeah, just before Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>And is this going to be by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to Thanksgiving because that's a food holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>As makes sense. And by the way, food is a

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<v Speaker 1>savvy programming choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing is more.

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<v Speaker 1>Universal in its jewishness than food, like I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about kosher food that's even more Jewish?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? Will this take place in international cities or is

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<v Speaker 1>it just you as.

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<v Speaker 2>It's North America?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it will play in all five of

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<v Speaker 2>the territories that Kiflix is on. And this is just

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<v Speaker 2>our first foray, we're dipping our toe in this water,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are going to rely on licensing third party

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<v Speaker 2>series or from around the world, and we'll go step

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<v Speaker 2>by step, including this original program in building the channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's the cruising element in this.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea is that you're going from city to city, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because every episode will take place in three cities, in

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<v Speaker 2>three different restaurants, one restaurant in each city.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sound can can you preview what restaurants are going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the cut in this first season.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one in you know, I don't know the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the restaurants on the top of my head, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's if there's one in the valley here,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one in Cleveland, there's They're all every every part

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<v Speaker 2>of the US.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm salivating already. Yeah, no, it sounds absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just part of what we do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole idea is that this is a repertoire. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not this is one stop shopping. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep emphasizing this right, one stop shopping, preserving Jewish culture.

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<v Speaker 2>So where our ideas to go to a to z okay?

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of kinds of programming, a subject matter of

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<v Speaker 2>programming and sensibility of programming.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you see this says the first in a

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to use a food metaphor menu of original

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<v Speaker 1>could be?

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<v Speaker 2>Could be? Obviously you said it yourself. Food is makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense that this would be the first original from a

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish streaming service. Why not? Okay, it's too early to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is this. You know, this could be

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<v Speaker 2>something special. We just don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, I also have to ask the most Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>of questions, what does it cost per month or per

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<v Speaker 1>year to access high Flex? And is that something that

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<v Speaker 1>could change over time?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's right now. It's seventy two dollars for an

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<v Speaker 2>annual subscription and nine to ninety nine month.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that the same price in different regions or.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the same price in all five territories?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And we want to make it affordable. Okay. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>looking for an elite audience. We want it. We we

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<v Speaker 2>we have a cultural function here. Remember I keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hit this bell often as often as

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<v Speaker 2>I can, preserving Jewish culture. We wanted it affordable. And

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<v Speaker 2>what we're finding and what we know now is that

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<v Speaker 2>people really love this channel and people watch and are

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<v Speaker 2>voracious about it. And I'll tell you we sent out

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<v Speaker 2>a survey. I think it was about price, matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and we wanted to talk to our subscribers this and

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<v Speaker 2>I would tell you, maybe not half, but a tremendously

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<v Speaker 2>large percentage of our audience said when we asked them

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<v Speaker 2>what about the price point, they said, we don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what it costs, we just want the channel. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was a complete surprise to us, and that made us

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<v Speaker 2>think that we were onto something okay, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how could you How can I not feel that way

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<v Speaker 2>because there is nothing out there like this. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being Jewish, by the way, is not just being Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just being a secular Jew. There's other aspects

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<v Speaker 2>that we think about in terms of being Jewish, whether

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<v Speaker 2>that's takun olam, you know, changing the world, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>uh all these all these good traits of a human

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<v Speaker 2>being that come from our our history that and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to be Jewish to be that way. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll have a whole section on social justice unrelated

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<v Speaker 2>to being Jewish. Me personally, when I see the refugee

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<v Speaker 2>crisis going on in the world right now, how can

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<v Speaker 2>I not think about World War two and and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jews situation in Germany. So is that is

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<v Speaker 2>that a Jewish subject matter that should be on the service?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a social justice issue. I'm I'm open to expanding

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<v Speaker 2>that way as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting and it's commendable. But when you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>down that road, I also think you could potentially slide

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<v Speaker 1>down a slippery slope that could get divisive because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there's also nothing more Jewish than disagreeing on stances about

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<v Speaker 1>social justice. And different kinds of Jews have different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of views. And then perhaps the audience starts to splinter

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<v Speaker 1>because politics get in the way. Do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds?

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<v Speaker 2>We're not political, okay, we're not political, okay, But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you there's two things that every Jew and this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I've learned from my handling this subject area

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years. There's two things that every Jew cares about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Holocaust in Israel, and I'm not when we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the only program we have. Obviously, Coach of

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<v Speaker 2>Food doesn't fit into any of those two categories, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But we're not taking a position on any of those

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<v Speaker 2>two issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Jews are, every Jew thinks about, and

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<v Speaker 2>these are and this the discussion is exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>channel is for, to share programming, for people to discuss it.

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<v Speaker 2>May have different points of view on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, if you know there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be so much programming on the end, there already is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't like one show for whatever reason, there's

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred other hours to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but even when you say something like Israel that

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<v Speaker 1>can be divisive, and you could put something in that

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<v Speaker 1>one program about Israel that could offend someone to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where they don't want to watch the other eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think sellers. I disagree with you about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's our job as a as a as a

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<v Speaker 2>streamer preserving Jewish culture to present the panoply of points

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<v Speaker 2>of view, and not everybody is going to agree with

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<v Speaker 2>every point of view. And when I say point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about a narrator of fiction show primarily, but

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a documentary and somebody has a point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>there's another documentary we will have a different point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>And that discussion, you know, you say two Jews, three synagogues,

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of who we are and that dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>is something that we want to encourage and we want

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a library. If you and I, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the UCLA library and went into the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish section, You're going to pull out three books, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pull out three other books, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to sit and discuss. That's what that's the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly commendable and also you know there's different shows

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<v Speaker 1>on your service. There are also other streaming services and

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>channels out there servicing Jewish programming. Do you think much

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<v Speaker 1>about the competition out there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're aware of it, but we are different than

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else. Okay, nobody's released two hundred and fifty Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>theme films over fifteen years that I have. Nobody has

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<v Speaker 2>their relationships with film sellers, producers, sales companies, television companies

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<v Speaker 2>just in the Jewish space that we do. We've built

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<v Speaker 2>this up over years and years, first from our film

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<v Speaker 2>side and now since Hi Flicks started in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty, and people come to us because they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be on our channel, because they want access to

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<v Speaker 2>our audiences. We're getting solicited more and more from sellers,

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<v Speaker 2>from producers, from sales agents for their programming to come

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<v Speaker 2>to Kiflis. Why because the past experience of other shows

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<v Speaker 2>and other producers has been that people are completely ecstatic

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<v Speaker 2>and happy and content with the experience of appreciation of

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<v Speaker 2>their shows. With our audience. We have an audience and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody else has and this is the audience for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why people are now coming to us to

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<v Speaker 2>bring their programming to us, and we have a certain

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<v Speaker 2>way of dealing with these with programming which comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of the film side, I think, and my sensitivity, every

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<v Speaker 2>single show is a child, and we deal with it

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<v Speaker 2>in a special and sensitive way. That's the only way

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<v Speaker 2>to be a film distributor. We're not a big company,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not one of the we're not cut from the

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<v Speaker 2>studio world. Uh. And and the big streaming world where

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<v Speaker 2>it's just product product product. We're sensitive and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that relates a little bit to my personality, to the

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<v Speaker 2>truth to being to handling every every film, every program

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<v Speaker 2>as if it's your the only child you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, uh, that is certainly an admirable approach, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you schmoozing with me about the channel and look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing how you'll be cruising into twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four with ki Flix. Thank you, Neil for walking me

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<v Speaker 1>through your fascinating venture.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you great to be here.

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