WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Three

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<v Speaker 1>And broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Strong and get Kid and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>We are on vacation. But boy, do we have some

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<v Speaker 5>good stuff for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, indeed we do.

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<v Speaker 6>Now on with the infotainment Can you transform your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you'd like to transform your life?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you wouldn't transform your life in just seventy days

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<v Speaker 5>with the seventy five Hard, which I guess has been

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<v Speaker 5>around for a couple of years, but I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 5>about it till now because one of my nieces said

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<v Speaker 5>she's doing the sixty medium.

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<v Speaker 3>She made up her own list of how she's going

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<v Speaker 3>to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the seventy five Hard, A tactical guide to

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<v Speaker 5>winning the war with your something or other. Before I

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<v Speaker 5>get into some of it, what do you know about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Katie?

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<v Speaker 7>I know it's very difficult, and it requires I think

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<v Speaker 7>two workouts a day. You have to do one inside,

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<v Speaker 7>one outside. You have to diet seventy five here, well

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<v Speaker 7>right right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you scare.

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<v Speaker 5>You skipped right to the one that makes everybody say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>never mind then, because on the list you go through

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<v Speaker 5>some of them and you think I could do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Drink a gallon of water per day. Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure that it's going to do me any good, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Read ten pages of a self improvement book daily. If

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<v Speaker 5>I get to choose the book, I can do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Take a progress picture every day, okay, effortless, come up

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<v Speaker 5>with a diet plan and follow it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, kind of trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Two forty five minute workouts daily, one outdoors. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 5>what else can we do? Because that ain't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why none of these fitness resolutions work.

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<v Speaker 3>You take it way too far.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna go to the gym and work out

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<v Speaker 5>for an hour every day. You do it for a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of days and you quit. You get a set

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<v Speaker 5>modest two forty five minute workouts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Even if you've got time, which I don't did be impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>No way you're gonna do that consistently.

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<v Speaker 7>And with the diet there's no cheat meals and no

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<v Speaker 7>alcohol for seventy five days. So forget your month of

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<v Speaker 7>no alcohol, Joe, this is seventy five days.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. One of my good friends has for years

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<v Speaker 6>and years, with almost no exceptions, he has and he's

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<v Speaker 6>a drinking man. He's good at it. We've gone round

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<v Speaker 6>and round. He drinks under Year's Eve. He does not

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<v Speaker 6>have another drink until Saint Patrick's Day in mid March,

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<v Speaker 6>virtually every year. I admire it. I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 6>want to imitate it, but I admire it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why does he do it?

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<v Speaker 6>Physical health, emotional health, doesn't want to be dependent on alcohol.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess same reason I do it for a little while.

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<v Speaker 6>He just takes it a lot further. He's in good

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<v Speaker 6>shape too, for a guy of his age. And then

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<v Speaker 6>we have another friend, actually a great mutual friend, who

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<v Speaker 6>when confront he's a southern guy. When confronted with that news,

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<v Speaker 6>he said, I haven't taken that long a break since

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<v Speaker 6>I was eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a different way to approach life.

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<v Speaker 6>But interestingly, in contrast to the hard seventy five, and

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<v Speaker 6>the medium sixty and.

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<v Speaker 4>The leisurely thirty. We might have.

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<v Speaker 6>Something to talk about my daughter, my beloved twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>year old who just today headed back to law school.

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<v Speaker 6>Is she's using a nudgeword, which I would have mocked

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<v Speaker 6>were my beloved daughter not doing it. And there's a

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<v Speaker 6>piece in the Washington Post. Then they have a graphic

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<v Speaker 6>that shows people unveiling their nudgeword, which includes.

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<v Speaker 4>Ease, pivot, wonder, pause, and bliss.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to back up a second.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this a term, I know, nudgeword? What does a nudgeword? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you're about to and I apologize.

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<v Speaker 6>A nudgeword can help you clarify your goals. It can

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<v Speaker 6>symbolize your values, help you set intentions and guide your

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<v Speaker 6>actions in most, if not all, areas of your life.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you want to be or feel? For instance,

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<v Speaker 6>do you want to be more playful? Balanced, or compassionate?

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<v Speaker 3>Playful?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I want to be more playful.

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<v Speaker 3>Who starts a new year? You know what I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in twenty five?

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<v Speaker 4>Playful? More playful? You know I would not phrase it

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I could definitely see somebody, perhaps me, saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta stop worrying about crap that doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to lighten the hell up about a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. So I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Interestingly, though, my daughter's word that she keeps trying remind

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<v Speaker 6>yourself of is sustainable and not like in the environmental

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<v Speaker 6>Grita Tunberg bullcrap way.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's telling.

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<v Speaker 6>Herself, Look, don't start an exercise plan you can't possibly sustain.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always been.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing to diet that you can't live with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've always been big on that, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that is a good idea, or you know, any kind

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<v Speaker 5>of regimen, just yeah, start with something you could actually

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<v Speaker 5>do right, right, Start small, see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>Increase a little bit. But and look, I've done the

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<v Speaker 6>iron willed weight loss fitness thing a couple of.

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<v Speaker 4>Times and it's worked.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not sustainable, right, and it's it's the problem

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<v Speaker 5>with sustainable is it's so slow. You know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>lose weight, but it's gonna come off really slow, but

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<v Speaker 5>it'll come off and stay off and people want or.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a very lace you'll maintain.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, anymore, or you're gonna you know, you're you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>build muscle and look more fit. But it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>real slow and it's gonna take a while. But once

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<v Speaker 5>you get there, it's a it's certainly nice. That's a

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<v Speaker 5>good one. Pensive will be mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Pensive. Try to be overall more pensive in the new year.

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<v Speaker 6>I think mine's vengeful. I'm gonna I'm gonna give people

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<v Speaker 6>what they've earned.

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<v Speaker 3>A vengeful is your nudgeword.

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<v Speaker 6>People are gonna get what's coming to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Hit June July.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna have not taken vengeance for a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's gonna be easy to give up. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>remind myself, Hey, this is my nudgework. Find somebody who's

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<v Speaker 6>got it coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Start small. Remember that time in high school when you

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<v Speaker 3>did the thing to me, Well, here's.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's your right.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's just a store cluk clerk who's road And

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<v Speaker 5>as you walk out, your hurl a tomato adam. Start small,

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<v Speaker 5>Start easy, nay, sustainably vengeful.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to hear a good one. It's a little

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<v Speaker 6>heavy speaking of a year ending slash beginning rituals. I

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<v Speaker 6>was reading about this dude. He's like an entrepreneur and investor.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't really matter who he is. But every year

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the year, his birthday happens to

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<v Speaker 6>be December thirtieth, which I think factors. And but he

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<v Speaker 6>does a little vacation over the holidays like many of

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<v Speaker 6>us does. Does do we do? And he does what

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<v Speaker 6>he calls his pre mortem. He imagines being on his deathbed. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I know this is heavy, and he gets

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<v Speaker 6>into it. He really describes, like, I imagine my body

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<v Speaker 6>old and fragile, my breathing shallow, my life energy almost extinguished,

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<v Speaker 6>and I try to evoke the feelings I want to

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<v Speaker 6>have in that moment, a sense of peace, completion, and

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<v Speaker 6>most importantly self respect. Then I asked myself, what am

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<v Speaker 6>I going to do now to ensure that when I

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<v Speaker 6>reach that ultimate destination, I've done what I need to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I will feel those things I want to feel on

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<v Speaker 6>my deathbed.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he sets goals for the year.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we have a boss who actually has a

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<v Speaker 5>quote on his wall from of all people, Keith Partridge

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<v Speaker 5>David Cassidy, TV star of the seventies. You don't need

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<v Speaker 5>to know, you don't need to know where you're going

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<v Speaker 5>with this. You don't need to know who that is.

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<v Speaker 5>But he was as big a star in America as

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<v Speaker 5>you can get for a while. And on his deathbed

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<v Speaker 5>he said, I think it was his last words, so

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<v Speaker 5>much wasted time, and our boss has that on his wall.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>He was a resentful, bitter, alcoholic. Yeah, clung to the

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<v Speaker 6>past and so much wasted time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. I don't, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I have that to worry about it at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>Mast that's this guy's philosophy. What would your last words

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<v Speaker 5>be and what do you have to do to make them?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow? You know what, it's been great as he sailed it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want my last words to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Nailed it.

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<v Speaker 6>He wants a sense of peace, completion and that Look,

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<v Speaker 6>my race is run and it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck y'all.

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<v Speaker 7>Or this is stressing me out, I know, big task.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just summon my breath for one last boo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gone take one last bit of vengeance, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>My last words will be pass me that pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one more, one more more pizza.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was you know, reading a book by a songwriter,

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't matter who. But he's he's big on the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>try to create one new thing a day, and how

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<v Speaker 6>to do it. Of course, his job is writing songs,

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<v Speaker 6>so we write songs. But nobody has ever on their

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<v Speaker 6>deathbed said I wish I hadn't written that poem, or

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I hadn't tried to unless it's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>did something horrific, But go ahead and try and fail,

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<v Speaker 6>don't don't you know, be next to this entrepreneur guy

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<v Speaker 6>thinking why didn't I at least try? So there's my

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<v Speaker 6>life affirming death fearing death bed positive philosophy for the year.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the whatever that thing was with having a

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<v Speaker 5>nudge word grateful would be a really good one to

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<v Speaker 5>to try to stay in.

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<v Speaker 6>But of course for everything there must be a backlash,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's the people who somehow are so swept up

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<v Speaker 6>in crazes they've like taken that to an extreme and

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<v Speaker 6>like refuse to acknowledge things that needed to be fixed

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<v Speaker 6>in their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>What and so I've been reading lately.

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<v Speaker 6>There's the great the pressure to be grateful has now

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<v Speaker 6>become so shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>But some shot up shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I go into the office every day in my

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<v Speaker 6>boss balls and I'm it's your work.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a name.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to I want the name.

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<v Speaker 5>Of where you whoever wrote that, you read that. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going there today. I'll get on a plane. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>care if the weather's bad. Michael driving, I'm gonna choke.

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<v Speaker 4>Them, and you'll take your vengeance.

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<v Speaker 8>It's healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to punch that person right in the throat.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the most annoying fact. That is the single

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<v Speaker 5>most annoying thing I've ever heard, certainly this year. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what people take grateful to the danger of being

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<v Speaker 5>too grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see the headline the cite. Oh shut up,

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<v Speaker 3>you nailed it.

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<v Speaker 6>You nailed it, and Katie I can probably get an

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<v Speaker 6>amen out of you. See what the bitter old man

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't understand is this stuff is so much more a

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<v Speaker 6>part of young women's worlds, Oh yeah, than dudes. It's

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<v Speaker 6>like they tell this anecdote. It's actually pretty funny. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't see if I can find it. Woman's walking through

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<v Speaker 6>the store and they got a display of like dish towels,

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<v Speaker 6>and the dish towels are emblazoned gratitude. And this woman's

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<v Speaker 6>comment is all right, now, even my.

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<v Speaker 4>Dish towels are badgering me. These things become such a craze.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, in ways that you know, I hear stuff

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<v Speaker 6>like that and I think, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever, that's for you, goodbye. I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's a good idea. But if you

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<v Speaker 5>got it on your towels, I don't know. For whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>that's just a little too much for me.

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<v Speaker 9>Armstrong Heetty, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's something I realized today, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 5>the first time in twenty fifteen is now ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>so probably not in the last nine and a half years.

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<v Speaker 5>The name I heard the most as I went through

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<v Speaker 5>all my different channels on TV and radio was not

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump for the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Time in nine and a half years.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, the Muskmellon Elon Musk everywhere, no matter what you

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<v Speaker 5>flip to Elon Musky, line Musky, Len Musk, the way

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<v Speaker 5>it was, it's always been Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Right,

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<v Speaker 5>that's part of the whole Trump thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's Trump adjacent.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's interesting, So does Trump get like thirty percent

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<v Speaker 5>credit for each mention of Elon Musk because you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like a pyramid scheme. He recruited Elon's exactly share of

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<v Speaker 6>his mentions. And by the way, I'm sorry if you

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<v Speaker 6>have more on that go. I was gonna say that

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<v Speaker 6>I really really wanted to get to our honorary honorary

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<v Speaker 6>general general manager, which was.

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<v Speaker 5>Dudes playing women's sports. Fellas, you had a good run.

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<v Speaker 5>You whooped up on those girls.

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<v Speaker 6>You showed them men are better at everything, including being

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<v Speaker 6>female athletes.

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<v Speaker 4>You won all those medals.

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<v Speaker 6>You stood on the grand stand with your attempt at

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<v Speaker 6>makeup and your manly physique and jaw and the rest

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<v Speaker 6>of it, and really showed those stupid girls.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm afraid all good things must come to an end.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun while lest it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, next, prisons.

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<v Speaker 6>You know fifteen percent of female inmates are dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is not. Yes, it can't be bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, all the blue stints where all you have to

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<v Speaker 5>do is self identify.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because comes time to go into prison.

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<v Speaker 5>You're a bad You're a bad dude like corn Pop,

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<v Speaker 5>and you have to go to prison. And you think

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'd rather be in a chick prison than

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<v Speaker 5>a dude prison. I mean, there ain't no girls. I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen those prison movies. This ain't gonna be fun. I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'll go on the prison where the girls are.

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<v Speaker 6>You're much less likely to get your arse kicked or

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<v Speaker 6>get shived or you know, have to get into some

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<v Speaker 6>brutal gang to protect yourself. Sexual opportunities are a little

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<v Speaker 6>better also as well. I was getting there. I was

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<v Speaker 6>getting there, Valentino or what's what was the old lover?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? What was the the old It doesn't matter, stupid

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<v Speaker 4>old reference. But anyway, Yeah, I was gonna get to

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<v Speaker 4>the love first. I want to make sure my ass

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get kicked, if you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteen percent, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Casanova, that's what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll have to do about a bad dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Those statistics. The Free Press was writing about that. Wow,

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<v Speaker 6>that is something. Wow, it's insanity. And I well, because

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<v Speaker 6>they've been convinced that to be woke is to be

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<v Speaker 6>a good person, and they really want to be a

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<v Speaker 6>good person.

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<v Speaker 4>They really really want to be a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Person, an independent thinker who asserts herself when she sees

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<v Speaker 5>something wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>Not so much. I want to be accepted. I want

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<v Speaker 6>to be told I'm a good person.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a huge percentage of population are desperate for that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm not paying close attention to the whole Elon

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<v Speaker 5>Musk thing, but the way it's portrayed by the left.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me if I'm right or wrong. If I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm wrong, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>But this whole unelected bureaucrat attempting to the word they

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<v Speaker 5>used at MSNBC yesterday, got the federal government, which is

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<v Speaker 5>a word I love. I mean you you were using

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<v Speaker 5>it like prejudicially to scare people. I think got away.

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<v Speaker 5>That pfect What a great word, Kenny, Kenny accompliate. Where

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<v Speaker 5>do I set up for him gutting the federal government?

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds awesome. Wait a minute, honey, I need to

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<v Speaker 5>turn this up and listen. Yeah, that sounds fantastic. But

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<v Speaker 5>nobody elected him. He's been given these kingly powers to

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<v Speaker 5>do whatever he wants. Now, am I right or wrong

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<v Speaker 5>about this? He's not signing any pieces of paper that

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<v Speaker 5>can get rid of agencies or employees. He's recommending them

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<v Speaker 5>to Trump's executive branch, and they're signing the pieces of paper.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, exactly. He is making recommendations to his boss.

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<v Speaker 6>He is an advisor, so this is just a presidential advisor.

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<v Speaker 5>Fits in with my This is the first time I've

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<v Speaker 5>heard somebody's name more than Trump in nine and a

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<v Speaker 5>half years hearing Elon's name all the time. So they

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<v Speaker 5>must the left must feel like as a political win,

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<v Speaker 5>making Elon.

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<v Speaker 3>Musk a bad guy is better than.

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<v Speaker 5>Making Trump the bad guy, because Trump's the guy who

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<v Speaker 5>wants this done, is ordering it, and is the then

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<v Speaker 5>signing off on the recommendations.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Trump just got elected and not only whooped tiny

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<v Speaker 6>in the Swing States, won the electoral college handily, but

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<v Speaker 6>won the popular vote, which really shocked Democrats. And they've

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<v Speaker 6>been that he's the Antichrist and is going to come

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<v Speaker 6>eat your infant since twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>And so perhaps the.

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<v Speaker 6>Smartest horses over there on the left side of the

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<v Speaker 6>island following me are saying, look, let's go after Elon.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe we can get people's attention because he's rich and evil,

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<v Speaker 6>and they like the superhero movies where there's a rich,

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<v Speaker 6>evil super villain.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we can stir people up with that. They're desperate

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<v Speaker 4>for a message.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wonder how well it's working. Maybe it's working.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what most people think about Elon. I

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<v Speaker 5>know what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, The

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Geeddy Show.

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<v Speaker 10>They literally are trying to take healthcare away from millions

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<v Speaker 10>of Americans at this very moment, in the dead of night.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a party of monsters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they're having the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 4>They're monsters.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why they're having the one am vote tonight on

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<v Speaker 5>the big beautiful bill to try to slide through in

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<v Speaker 5>the darker night, the cutting back on Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the Republicans who are actual vampires can come

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<v Speaker 6>out to vote too.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you know, the sun is down.

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<v Speaker 6>So Craig Gottwalls originally Craig the Obamacare lawyer, because when

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<v Speaker 6>Obamacare was in the works and passed, Craig would talk

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<v Speaker 6>to us about it, longtime friend of the show, and

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<v Speaker 6>everything he said was true, and virtually everything he predicted happened,

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<v Speaker 6>in contrast to most of the coverage of it, which

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<v Speaker 6>was garbage. Well, Craig is now Craig the healthcare Guru,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're going to talk a little bit about Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 6>among other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Craig Gottwals, how are you, Craig.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, how are you, gentlemen, terrific?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 6>So what do you make of Hakeem Jeffrey's quote there

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<v Speaker 6>and what is the reality of medicaid?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it underscores just how we can never give anything

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<v Speaker 8>to the government. This is why we can't have nice things. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 8>in nineteen sixty five, the federal government passed Medicare and Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 8>and specifically with respect to Medicaid, the whole idea was, man,

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<v Speaker 8>we need a safety net for like single moms with

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<v Speaker 8>disabled children who are falling through the cracks. We need

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<v Speaker 8>we need this mechanism to just capture the most disadvantaged

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<v Speaker 8>among us, to help them out and to give them

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<v Speaker 8>to give them a lift. Right, So we did. And

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<v Speaker 8>back when this was passed in nineteen sixty five, it

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<v Speaker 8>was designed to cover two percent of Americans. Two percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Today it covers one in three Americans and forty one

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<v Speaker 8>percent of all bab these burst in our country.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa for babies born?

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<v Speaker 6>So originally forty one line the disabled, the utterly unable

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<v Speaker 6>to help themselves, and now it is approaching half of us.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that because we have so many more single moms

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<v Speaker 5>with blind babies?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what does happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know you you you know better than I Jack.

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<v Speaker 8>This is entitlement creep, government creep at its finest. I

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<v Speaker 8>mean you when we when this really took off and

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<v Speaker 8>became insane was with Obamacare in you know, the early

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<v Speaker 8>you know, twenty teens. When Obamacare came into play, Obamacare

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<v Speaker 8>was bribing the states because you know, the way this

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<v Speaker 8>thing works, it's a it's an agreement between the state

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<v Speaker 8>and the federal government and they're shared financing, right, So

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<v Speaker 8>the federal government couldn't just stay to the states you

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<v Speaker 8>shall expand Medicaid. But what the federal government did is said, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>look if you expand Medicaid to basically able bodied, working

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<v Speaker 8>age people now because we'd already you know, had Medicaid

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<v Speaker 8>for all the other categories you just mentioned, Joe, the

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<v Speaker 8>government said, look, if you do that, will we the

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<v Speaker 8>federal government will pay one hundred percent of it for

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<v Speaker 8>some time, and then we'll pay ninety percent of it.

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<v Speaker 8>So all but ten states went ahead and said, heck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>we'll take that deal. And so now with that, with

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<v Speaker 8>that medicaid expansion expansion that occurred with Obamacare, it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>ninety percent paid for by federal tax payers, and it

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<v Speaker 8>covers anywhere from eight million to fourteen million able bodied

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<v Speaker 8>working adults, or I should say able bodied adults, some

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<v Speaker 8>of which are working, some of which aren't.

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<v Speaker 6>And in a bizarre twist, correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 6>the federal government compensates the states at a much higher

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<v Speaker 6>percentage for able bodied dudes smoking pot on their parents'

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<v Speaker 6>base on couch than they do for actual like disabled

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<v Speaker 6>people in blind babies.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no, that's exactly right. So that was the that

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<v Speaker 8>was the Obamacare bride because because Medicaid already covered all

0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 8>those people we were trying to protect, you know, when

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 8>we started this thing in the sixties. So it covered

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<v Speaker 8>all those people that had disabilities, single moms, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 8>the blind, the disabled, but it didn't cover just underemployed

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.119
<v Speaker 8>or unemployed abled bodied adults. And so in order to

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<v Speaker 8>get the states to agree to do that, the federal

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<v Speaker 8>government had to say, look, we know that we're only

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<v Speaker 8>paying you an average of fifty to sixty five cents

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<v Speaker 8>on the dollar for your existing Medicaid, and we know

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<v Speaker 8>that's not enough to get you the states to agree

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<v Speaker 8>to go ahead and cover the adults. So we'll pay

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<v Speaker 8>ninety to one hundred percent, starting at one hundred percent

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 8>dropping down to ninety percent. So yes, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 8>If you are a twenty eight year old dude's smoking

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<v Speaker 8>pot in your mom and dad's basement right now, medicaid's

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<v Speaker 8>paying ninety percent. The federal government's paying ninety percent of

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 8>your medicaid where it's only paying an average of sixty

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<v Speaker 8>cents on the dollar in a state like California for

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<v Speaker 8>a disabled mother.

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<v Speaker 4>With the child.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking to somebody I know specifically who is like

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<v Speaker 5>a regular person with the job and is doing it

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<v Speaker 5>the normal way, and they're incredible men. Medical bills they

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<v Speaker 5>got right now because they've had some health problems. That's

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 5>very galling that they have these high medical bills with

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<v Speaker 5>insurance and everything, as opposed to if you got on

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<v Speaker 5>some sort of government plan, it'd all be covered.

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<v Speaker 6>And Craig, I'm going to leave it up to your

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<v Speaker 6>judgment how much you want to get into this. But

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<v Speaker 6>there are all sorts of other perverse incentives that this

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 6>law has caused states, you know, taxing hospitals to raise

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<v Speaker 6>the amount spent, but then they get it back from

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<v Speaker 6>the federal government. Then they give it back to the hospitals.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's byzantine.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, let me just give you a couple of nuggets

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.880
<v Speaker 8>on the cost of it, just just because what's happened

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 8>is employers pay two to three times the cost of

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 8>a hospital visit, as Medicare and Medicaid do. So when

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 8>you are on Medicare and Medicaid, you go to the hospital,

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 8>you pay X. If you're on an employer sponsored plan,

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 8>you pay two to three times X.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the state bill is I was just talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>Thus the bills. But even with that reality, gentlemen, if

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 8>you're on Medicare, that cost per taxpayer is about eleven

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 8>thousand per year, if you're on Medicaid, it's ninety four

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 8>hundred per year, and for employer sponsored people it's eighty

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 8>seven hundred per year. So even with that, granted, employer

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 8>sponsored coverage generally younger, generally healthier. We get that. But

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 8>even with this tremendous cost shift to the hospitals, it

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 8>just it underscores how inefficient these government programs are. When

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 8>they passed Medicare, now this is Medicare, not Medicaid, but

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 8>they did all the financials together when they passed it

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 8>in nineteen sixty seven, actually two years in when they

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 8>did an analysis on it, they said, hey, we think

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 8>this is going to cost twelve billion by nineteen ninety,

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 8>when in fact it cost one hundred billion. They were

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 8>off by a factor of eight.

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<v Speaker 3>With medicare the bullet train of medicine.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's the bullet train of medicine. And now that

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 8>there are some people making noises that, gee, we ought

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 8>to trim back the edges a little bit and get

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 8>these able bodied adults off of it, you of course

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 8>get the grand standing of politicians, even those on the right,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 8>screaming that it's murder in the streets.

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 3>So Medicare is the one we all get when we

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 3>cy cynical it will.

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 5>Medicare is the one we all get when we turned

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 5>sixty five. But Medicaid is the one at the downtrodden earth.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 4>Or folks allegedly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, hey, Craig, I want to do the numbers

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 6>you did for Medicaid too. So in nineteen eighty seven,

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 6>Congress projected that Medicaid would make special relief payments to

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 6>hospitals of less than a billion dollars by nineteen ninety two,

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 6>under a billion dollars. The actual cost was seventeen billion,

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 6>so they're seventeen times as high. I mean, if that

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 6>doesn't tell you what you need to know about government

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 6>entitlement programs and what they do, inevitably, well you're too

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 6>stupid to understand it, and't.

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I pity you.

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 8>And that one was in a five year span, Joe,

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 8>that was their eighty seven projection for ninety two.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you're right.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that wasn't well.

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 3>And one of the problems.

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 5>One of the problems is, you know, all government programs grow,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 5>and you know the high cost and good intentions and

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>all that sort of stuff.

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 3>But in this case, you've got the added.

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 5>Part that there's a bunch of people that want the

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 5>government to run all of healthcare. So they love the

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 5>they're pushing the expansion. It's not just like normal bureaucratic creep.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 5>They're pushing it. The more people cover, the more you

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 5>can make the argument of well, we're already government healthcare anyway,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 5>let's just flip the switch and go full on single pair.

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 8>You're absolutely right, and the single payer I'm just here

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 8>to tell you the single payer path is a good

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 8>thirty to fifty percent more expensive now those costs are

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 8>hidden because of the way the money slashes around. But

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 8>you've only got one payer of health care in America

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 8>that actually cares what it costs, and that's employers. That's it.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 8>The insurance companies don't care because the way Obamacare is written,

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.360
<v Speaker 8>they need more claims to make more money. The government

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 8>doesn't care because the more healthcare costs, the more budget

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 8>they get to address the issue. The only policy holder,

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 8>the only tax, the only moneyed interest in this that

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 8>actually cares, is an employer, and it's dramatically shrinking. Those

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 8>of us that get healthcare at work is shrinking every year.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how we ever get this fixed because

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 5>like I, uh, you've probably been listening to know.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I got whooping cough.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 5>So I've been to the doctor, like yeah, four or

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 5>five times, eight different medications, all these different bills, most

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 5>of them tiny.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't have the slightest idea what anything cost.

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 5>Or I'll get a bill, I know, I'll get a

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 5>bill in a month for one hundred and eighty bucks

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 5>or five hundred and eighty bucks, I don't know, and

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 5>then I'll just pay it.

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 11>And nobody has any idea, and the randomness of those

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 11>of us who have employee you know, insurance, we don't

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 11>know if we're getting ripped off or good price or whatever.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 4>So it's it's complicated, no discouraging, Go ahead, Craig.

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and it's it's not health jack by the You

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 8>know a lot of people think that, hey, I have

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 8>Purple Cross as my insurance, and so whether I go

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 8>to Stanford or El Camino or good Sam for this

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 8>particular shoulder surgery should be about the same price because

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 8>I have a Purple Cross PPO contract. Right, It's not

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 8>you can pay ten thousand for that shoulder surgery or

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 8>fifty thousand for that shoulder surgery with the same exact

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 8>insurance card. It's utterly insane what's happening in the commercial

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 8>market because government has crept into this unholy alliance with

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 8>the commercial payers, and so you have this, you have

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 8>a situation where it's crony capitalism at its absolute worst.

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 8>You know we're talking about and we can tease for

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 8>a future visit, but there are ways to get around this.

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 8>But relying on the government or this large commercial sector

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 8>is going to kill us. And when I say the

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 8>commercial sector, I mean the fully insured carriers, employer sponsored plans,

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 8>self funded employer sponsored plans are the way to go.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 8>It's the only way to beat this and beat it back.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're talking to Craig Gottwaals, Craig the healthcare guru. Craig,

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 6>I feel like at this point in the interview we

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 6>how to give people the local suicide hotline number.

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, because it's so discouraging.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 6>So we've you know, described this incredible, mountainous, wasteful, enormously

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 6>expensive government program out of control. And if you, as

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 6>say a Republican, a Chip Roy, for instance, say hey,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 6>can we have thirty five year old guy smoking pawn

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 6>on his parents couch please pay a thirty five dollars

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 6>copay when he goes to the doctor, you have Hakeem

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 6>Jeffrey screaming you're literally taking healthcare away from millions of Americans.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 5>One problem, though the other problem is that's a Democrat.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 5>He got Josh Howey, a Republican writing an opera. Holly

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 5>has lost his soul. I hope he gets hit by

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 5>a car abhorror violence. Josh Holley writes, I think in

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 5>the New York Times last week, you know Republicans, hey

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 5>do not cut any of this. It's a bad political move.

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 5>So where does that leave you?

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's you. At this point, gentlemen, I put my

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 8>head down. I don't even listen to the big the

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 8>big picture anymore, and I just try and help one

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 8>employer at a time. It's just and I get individuals

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 8>that contact me and they ask me what do I do?

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 8>And I say, buy as little inferent sick and by

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 8>the highest deductible, go ahead.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't get sick is your recommendation.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 8>Don't get sick, but find a doctor, find a doctor

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 8>who's left the system, and engage in something called direct

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 8>primary care, where you give them anywhere from seventy five

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 8>to two hundred dollars a month, you treat, you work

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 8>with them, and then God forbid, you have something giant happen.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 8>You have the highest deductible you can stomach to go

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 8>deal with that issue. But you've got to cut insurance

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 8>and government payments out as much as you can and

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 8>work directly with doctors. And the good news is that

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 8>system is growing, gentlemen. I talk to doctors every week

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 8>that are leaving the system and going direct pay with

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 8>individuals and not the three hundred and fifty dollars concierge model,

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 8>but like doing this for one hundred dollars a month. Literally.

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, I love the idea of starting at that point

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 6>in our next conversation with you, Craig, and talking about that,

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 6>because one of the things I was going to bring

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 6>up if we have time, and we don't unfortunately, but

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 6>some of the unholy uh vertical integration of the giant

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 6>healthcare companies where they own the doctor, they own the hospital,

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 6>they own the pharmacy, they own the pharmacy benefit manager,

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 6>which is an unholy, murky cesspool of God knows where

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 6>the money goes. And so yeah, the idea of checking

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 6>out of that system, I love it. Let's let's let's

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 6>talk off the air. Will schedule you to come back

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 6>because I think it'd be great for the good folks.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 8>Sounds great, gentlemen, have a wonderful day.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks, Craig. Appreciate the time. Craig.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>You have to come on all the time and bear

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>bad news.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's like, yeah, I just you know, as

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 6>a realist, you've unlike the Biden family, the one thing

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 6>you must do is understand reality or or your your helics.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 5>I've been saying too, Craig, and he usually agrees. For years.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.959
<v Speaker 5>I think the realist view is we're going to end

0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 5>up single payer healthcare. Uh, it's just when When does Yeah,

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I suppose so.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 6>But in every single health single payer healthcare system, people

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 6>who can afford it go outside and right right, got

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 6>to learn those ropes, don't folks, It'll be okay.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 5>Don't get sick. Just don't get sick or break anything.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 5>That's the answer.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Stay here.

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>It's Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 9>And Getty Show. The Armstrong and Getty Show should have.

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 5>Been a couple of great government works, things that got

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 5>out of control and cost gazillions of dollars and never

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 5>got finished. In my lifetime, I remember Boston's big dig,

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 5>hearing about that my whole life, decades and decades and decades,

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 5>wasting tons of money. Uh, Alaska's famous bridge to Nowhere.

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 5>But they're all paling in comparison to California's high speed

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 5>rail project, which goes back to two thousand and eight,

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 5>and if it's not already at the end of the day,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 5>will be the biggest government sinkhole of bureaucracy and waste.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>As an example of how democracy keys can fail in

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 5>our nation's history, and it's probably.

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Already in Richmond too. I must point out.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason it's getting a bunch of a

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 3>national attention.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>New York Times did a.

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Story last Sunday, the Associated presses on it, and The

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 5>Dispatch did a story yesterday. Is the CHSRA. That's the

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 5>California High Speed Rail Authority. They put out new numbers

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 5>just recently, and their own new numbers have now increased

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 5>the total cost to one hundred and thirty five billion dollars.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 5>When taxpayers agreed to this, it was thirty three billion.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 5>It's now one hundred and thirty five billion. It's more

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 5>than one hundred billion dollars more than originally proposed.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>It was.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 5>We were supposed to be writing it five years ago.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 5>It's supposed to be done in twenty twenty. I have

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 5>not written into view. They're now saying if it.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 6>Comes anywhere near the original promise, it will be north

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 6>of two hundred billion dollars, mark my words.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 5>And they said in their most recent statement it may

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 5>take two more decades to complete most of the San

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 5>Francisco to Los Angeles segment, two more decades to complete

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 5>most so they're not even saying in two decades they

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 5>can complete it right. And I don't know if you

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 5>know about travel, but you really need the whole thing.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 5>Like if I'm going to New York this summer, I

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 5>need to get all the way there. Most of the

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 5>way doesn't do any good.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 4>It's either get you to Indianapolis.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 5>It's really an all or nothing proposition whenever you travel somewhere,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 5>am I going there or not? But I thought this

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 5>was really interesting and I can't believe this hasn't gotten

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 5>more attention. This is from the chsri's own plan. It

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 5>is now going to connect to towns on the outskirts

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 5>of both major metros. It's not going to take you

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 5>from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It's going to take

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 5>you from Gilroy, which if you live in the area,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 5>you know eight very close to San Francisco, and.

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 4>That is the outskirts of the outskirts of the out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's seventy miles southeast of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>To I just chail.

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<v Speaker 6>It will take you just under two hours to drive

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<v Speaker 6>from Gilroy to San Francisco as we speak.

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<v Speaker 5>To Palmdale, which is thirty seven miles northeast of the

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<v Speaker 5>edge of Los Angeles, and in Los Angeles traffic, it

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<v Speaker 5>would take you several hours to make that drive. So

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<v Speaker 5>instead of the city centers, it's going to take you

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<v Speaker 5>from Gilroy to Palmdale.

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<v Speaker 3>That will save construction time and.

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<v Speaker 5>Money, but it will need mean the writers will need

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<v Speaker 5>another hour or more to get into the cities. That

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<v Speaker 5>is an incredibly generous statement. I would say a minimum

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<v Speaker 5>of three to four hours on a good day, all told, an.

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<v Speaker 6>Hour and a quarter from Palmdale to LA right now

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<v Speaker 6>all told.

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<v Speaker 3>Economist Scott Summer estimates that this.

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<v Speaker 5>New setup would require at least a seven hour series

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<v Speaker 5>of trains or cars for someone to get from downtown

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco to downtown Los Angeles. Instead of the original

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<v Speaker 5>promised three hour one train trip and seven hours on

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<v Speaker 5>the best, everything broke your way, it would take seven hours.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the greatest failure of democracy I've ever witnessed.

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<v Speaker 8>Arm Strong and