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Speaker 2: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt

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Speaker 2: from one five through the fan. We've got Mickey Spagnola

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Speaker 2: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, as always, we've got.

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Speaker 2: The three time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler

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Speaker 2: Nate Newton.

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Speaker 3: Here and our special Cowboys alumni.

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Speaker 2: This evening was a national champion at West Monroe High

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Speaker 2: School in nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: He broke ont of the college football scene almost twenty

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Speaker 2: five years ago as the leader of LSU's James Gang,

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Speaker 2: where he was also named an All American for Nick

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Speaker 2: Sabans Tigers. He was a fourth round pick for the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys in two thousand and three. He would spend nine

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Speaker 2: seasons with the Cowboys, where he ranks as the team's

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Speaker 2: third leading tackler. The man I'm talking about his former

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Speaker 2: Cowboys linebacker Brady.

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Speaker 5: James, Brady Brady, I'm climbing up there.

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Speaker 3: List.

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Speaker 2: We've got to always do the we we do the

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Speaker 2: bio intro and it's always the I think the longest

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Speaker 2: list we've read so far, as Kevin Smith, because Kevin

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Speaker 2: Smith is like he was all American on both.

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Speaker 3: Sides of the ball and the high school.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Brendie, you know we kind of just

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Speaker 2: mentioned it there, starting at West Monroe High School. Curious

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Speaker 2: I was looking through some things and obviously familiar with

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Speaker 2: your time at LS. Are you familiar with your time with

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, But I saw that at West Monroe you

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Speaker 2: played for an absolutely legendary coach there in Louisiana, Don

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Speaker 2: Shows and it's fascinating me. Look at there's an argument

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Speaker 2: that seems like from people in the state of Louisiana

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Speaker 2: that that is the high school coach in the state

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Speaker 2: of Louisiana. And then you played for Nick Saban, who

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Speaker 2: is arguably like the coach in colleg football. And then

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Speaker 2: you go to Bill Parcels, another legendary coach. What was

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Speaker 2: that just, you know, period of going from those coaches

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Speaker 2: and and what did you feel like all great coaches,

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Speaker 2: it feels like have some similar tricks. What did you

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Speaker 2: feel like was a similar running thread between the three

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. I mean I think for me

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Speaker 5: all those guys were different guys and Done Shaws, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's okay. Don Shaws is arguably a legend one of

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Speaker 5: the best high school coaches in Louisiana history. Then I

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Speaker 5: go to Nick Saban. But what people don't realize is

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Speaker 5: my first year I was recruited by Jared DeNardo. And

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Speaker 5: so my first year, everybody, you know, everybody set my

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Speaker 5: You call him Nick Saban, but at that particular time,

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Speaker 5: I called him the little tyrant because when he came in,

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Speaker 5: we were like, where did he come from? See, I

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Speaker 5: was recruited by Nick when he was at the Michigan

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Speaker 5: he told us that he was getting ready to change

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Speaker 3: And he did it. Yeah, absolutely in a big way.

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Speaker 2: Now, Now, when you were obviously Bill Parcell's very tough coach,

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Speaker 2: Don Shows he was pretty tough for Dick Simson, did

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Speaker 5: And O three, Well, when I got to camp, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think I think Bill was. He was way more

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Speaker 5: I mean when it came down to just knowing, and

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Speaker 5: remember every play, everything that multiple people would do.

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Speaker 5: And you know, coming from college, we would have to

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Speaker 3: The godfather, you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and then you got the compos with Bill

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean obviously Saban comes from the Belichick tree,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about the LSU experience.

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Speaker 2: So you did commit to Jerry DeNardo, like you said,

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Speaker 2: an easy Yeah, I'm gonna be going to LAS like

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Speaker 5: I mean LSU was not my original pick. The great

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Speaker 5: That just kind of changed my whole trajectory. And I

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Speaker 5: I was so like taking a back that he would

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Speaker 3: No, that's the way I took it.

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Speaker 5: And so man then bitten by my dad got my

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Speaker 5: And we at that particular time, we were not nationally recognized.

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Speaker 3: And I started going on all.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, guys, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, you guys are going the same place we go

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Speaker 3: How about we all just go to the same place.

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Speaker 5: You know, imagine what imagine if we all are ranked

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Speaker 2: You know, It's funny you mentioned in Philip Pullmer telling you,

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Speaker 2: So in two thousand and one, when you guys get

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Speaker 5: It meant so it meant so much, and it was

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Speaker 5: And for us to go out and win the you

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's something where you mentioned there your

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Speaker 2: Just talking about the support you received from LSU at

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Speaker 2: is none other than former Cowboys linebacker Brady James. Brady,

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Speaker 2: thanks again for joining us. So I want to talk

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Speaker 2: pickout LSU. And there was a lot of talk n

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Speaker 5: It took me, I think week twelve to get like

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Speaker 5: all the way in because it was just so many

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Speaker 5: moving parts, so so many moving pieces. And then too,

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Speaker 5: I was playing special teams, and so it was hard

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Speaker 5: because I couldn't beat out those little guys. I couldn't

447
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Speaker 5: beat out Dexakochley, I couldn't beat out that win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those boys was fierce when I got in there.

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Speaker 5: They knew and it was a battle, and so I

450
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Speaker 5: just couldn't beat them out.

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Speaker 3: So if you're not playing, you gotta play special teams.

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Speaker 5: And so I think week twelve is when I had

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Speaker 5: caused the turnover or something like that around Thanksgiving on

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Speaker 5: special teams.

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Speaker 3: That was the game I figured it out.

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Speaker 5: I figured I found out that I was like, I

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Speaker 5: really could play in this in this league.

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Speaker 3: You know, on the special teams play Who was.

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Speaker 7: The linebackers coach when you got there?

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Speaker 3: You remember linebackers coach.

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Speaker 5: Mike zim was our defensive coordinator, Gary Gibbs, Gary Gibbs,

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Speaker 5: Gary Gibbs, And I had Gary Gibbs at l.

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Speaker 3: U right right my sophomore year.

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Speaker 2: I think that two thousand and three season was so

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Speaker 2: unique because obviously Bill Parcells comes in and there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of energy surrounding that to begin with. But

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Speaker 2: it started really Week two, you guys go to New York.

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Speaker 2: You beat the Giants in a crazy game. That's the

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Speaker 2: Billy cund Off makes seven field goals, looked like y'all

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Speaker 2: had lost, Brian kicks it out of bounds, y'all up

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Speaker 2: and are able to send it overtime. But then you

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Speaker 2: guys start the season, I think it was five and one,

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Speaker 2: and and you guys were I believe that with the

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Speaker 2: number one ranked defense that you're thinking in yards, you

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Speaker 2: guys were the number one ranked defense, and O three

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Speaker 2: end up getting the playoffs, kind of surprising everybody was

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Speaker 2: there it. Did you know any better as a rookie

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Speaker 2: when you were observing all this, or did you get

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Speaker 2: a sense of like, oh, this is kind of this kind.

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Speaker 3: Of a different thing we got going on here. We're

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Speaker 3: we're kind of doing some unexpected things right now. Well,

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 5: It was unique by the the attention you would get

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Speaker 5: from the older players, like the former players.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize the I knew.

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Speaker 5: I knew we had a historic kind of traditional I

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Speaker 5: mean a tradition here for the Cowboys, but I didn't

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Speaker 5: realize how many guys we had. And so as a rookie,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you starstruck. Not you learned not to be starstruck.

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Speaker 3: On the field.

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Speaker 5: But but but the guys that were coming in, you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 5: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and then, as I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: as a rookie coming from coming.

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Speaker 5: From college to that man, you are dog tired by

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Speaker 5: about you know, week thirteen. Because you know, in college,

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Speaker 5: especially at that particular time, we probably played ten games. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, we didn't have as many games, and then

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Speaker 5: you would go all away. So by the time you

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Speaker 5: get to December, that was bold time.

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Speaker 3: So you are off.

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Speaker 5: You know, in college, you know, you had to finish

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Speaker 5: your final you got a couple of weeks and you practice.

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Speaker 3: Not in the NFL. In the NFL in December.

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Speaker 5: Every game was so much more important, Like every game

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Speaker 5: was more important, and it was like wow.

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Speaker 3: So it was you know, just coming in as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: But but but it also taught us.

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Speaker 5: You talk about being the number one defense, It really

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Speaker 5: set the tone for what it takes to be Like

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Speaker 5: I would say, good, you know you you I mean

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Speaker 5: you you you think that you can go out there

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Speaker 5: and just stop people.

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Speaker 3: But you know it's it's hard. It's hard. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, that's something this Curry Cowboys team has been learning.

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Speaker 2: You know you mentioned the you learn not to be

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Speaker 2: starstruck by it. Do you remember the first time that

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Speaker 2: you were on the field, You're you're a little like,

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Speaker 2: all right, keep it together. Do you remember who you

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Speaker 2: would have seen that You're like that dude's pretty famous

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, I played for the Cowboys, so.

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Speaker 5: I mean first time I saw Tony Dart said, I

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Speaker 5: was like, whoa this guy really is? Yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: so many, it was just so many different guys.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome.

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Speaker 5: But I can't remember like playing my rookie year and

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Speaker 5: it was a moment. It was a moment where it

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Speaker 5: was like, you don't you can't be starstroke. I never

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Speaker 5: forget it. We're playing the Miami Dophice. That's when Ricky

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Speaker 5: Williams was the running back and me and I finally

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Speaker 5: got a play. So I'm playing defense and Roy Wibbs safety,

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Speaker 5: Roy Wibbs, he and I we had this one play

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Speaker 5: and it was a blitz. So I was like, of

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Speaker 5: course I am going full tilt if they called this place.

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Speaker 3: So they called the play. It was my play. I

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Speaker 3: go in and Roy beat me to the to the whole.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 5: But what ended up happening was he he came back

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Speaker 5: in the hole, right, and that's not what you're supposed

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Speaker 5: to do. And then then not only was he coming back,

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Speaker 5: Ricky Williams was coming with him, and they would come.

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Speaker 3: They were coming toward me.

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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to stop only one guy, but it's two

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Speaker 5: of them coming back, and I just kind of closed

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Speaker 5: my eyes and I think I missed, but.

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Speaker 3: I tripped him. And yeah, he didn't. He didn't go

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Speaker 3: as far as we thought he could.

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Speaker 6: So you said you played special teams. Did when is

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Speaker 6: the last time you had played? I'm guessing at l

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Speaker 6: s U he didn't play special teams once you got

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Speaker 6: to be a starter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I didn't play special team. I played

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Speaker 5: on the kickoff team my senior year in high school.

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Speaker 5: Very good. Yeah, the only time I played on a

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Speaker 5: punt team. I played on a punt team in college.

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Speaker 5: But special teams. I didn't play special teams.

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Speaker 7: Which Avazono still the special teams coch No.

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Speaker 3: We had Bruce de Haten, he moved on. Bruce.

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Speaker 2: That's right when you when you talk about that early on,

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Speaker 2: you know, you didn't know what you were looking at necessarily,

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Speaker 2: you're just seaball get ball. Was there a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a free now aspect of getting able to play

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Speaker 2: special teams and like let's get down the field, like

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Speaker 2: like like let's just make a play. Was there something

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Speaker 2: freeing about that for you?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 5: But you know, I played when they had the big wedge,

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Speaker 5: like we didn't. We didn't this this stuff that you

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Speaker 5: see now it is different. So when I played, they

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Speaker 5: had the meanest back up defensive end in this four

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Speaker 5: man wedge was it was four guys, the meanest backup

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Speaker 5: defensive end. The the guy that the offensive tackle he

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Speaker 5: was supposed to play, but he didn't. He wasn't playing,

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Speaker 5: So he mad, you got you got the backup center

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Speaker 5: that's on the on the wedge, and somebody else that.

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Speaker 4: I played one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had us.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we had a couple of boy bad boys. Man

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Speaker 10: yeah yeah, yeah, I was that guy man guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But what hurt me obraded Even when I went to

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Speaker 10: starting at the guard position.

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Speaker 4: We were so good as a return team Joe wasn't

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Speaker 4: gonna break it up. Man.

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Speaker 10: He say, I almost blew a knee out against Houston

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Speaker 10: when they were Houston. Yeah, you know, and uh that's

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Speaker 10: what Coach Johnson, that's enough, you know, Wow, And then

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Speaker 10: you know, if you could help the team win, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Joe, Joe would not take Darren Woodson off specialty.

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Speaker 4: Now because he helped to win.

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Speaker 6: Yeh didn't matter how many years he played, and every

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Speaker 6: year it's like, yeah, probably not.

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Speaker 7: And wood he was always out on the kickoff coverage.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Woodie was one of the best teammates I've ever had,

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Speaker 5: like as far as leadership and like a young guy

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Speaker 5: and somebody to look up to, like if I ever

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Speaker 5: was able to pass the torch, I hope I was

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Speaker 5: able to pass the torch on to like he like

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Speaker 5: he did for for a few of us.

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Speaker 7: So you would vote for him in the Pro Football

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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if my vote counted. They started that Cowboys

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Speaker 3: lost Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Nate doesn't need to be in any more of a

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Speaker 2: bad mood than if you get him started on Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 7: Natal that would be both of us exactly.

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Speaker 3: No, that's hopefully they get that wrong.

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Speaker 2: Righted very soon. Let's go ahead. Let's take our second break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, We've already heard a lot from

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Speaker 2: Brady James about the things that he learned and and

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Speaker 2: and what he found out playing for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about what's going on with

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Speaker 2: his current Cowboys team and maybe some of the things

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Speaker 2: that Brady would recommend that they could do to fix

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Speaker 2: some of these defensive problems that they've got. That's next

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Speaker 2: this evening is former Cowboys linebacker Brady James.

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Speaker 3: So Brady and.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into some specifics about the Cowboys and what

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Speaker 2: happened with the vikings the other day and a bad.

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Speaker 3: Loss for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you've talked a lot about responsibilities and

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Speaker 2: on defense when you have responsibilities, and how it can

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Speaker 2: just destroy defense if you're not doing your job, and

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Speaker 2: how everybody's got this role and different things like that.

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Speaker 2: That has been a common discussion point for the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: to see it. It's gotten a little better of as things.

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Speaker 3: Have gone on.

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Speaker 2: You haven't had as many communication issues or guys trying

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Speaker 2: to free lance or different things like that. But just

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Speaker 2: try to, I guess explain a breakdown for people listening.

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Speaker 3: To home, how.

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Speaker 2: Like just small the margins are of if you're not

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Speaker 2: doing your job, if you're not in the right place,

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Speaker 2: just how like you know a quarterback's you're in practice

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Speaker 2: and it's a twelve yard and it's like, come back,

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Speaker 2: you ran twelve and a half.

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Speaker 3: That needs to be twelve.

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Speaker 2: Like just talk about that precision and how important is

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Speaker 2: to do everything to a team.

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Speaker 3: I think one of I wouldn't even go into our issues.

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Speaker 3: You know. One of the things about me is I had.

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Speaker 5: The fortunate and unfortunate responsibility of being the signal caller.

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Speaker 3: So I had the green dots. And when I look at.

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Speaker 5: This team, you can just see certain I would say,

665
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: body language and behaviors.

666
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: So not knowing whatever the call is.

667
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Speaker 5: As a person that have had to look in front

668
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: of people, right, It's been times where I've I've had

669
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: to call a call and you got twenty eyes looking

670
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 5: back at you, and you call that call and four

671
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: eyes roll. You gotta go in the intervention like you

672
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 5: got to and you got fifteen seconds before they even

673
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: snapped the ball. So it's an intervention because you got

674
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: to get that guy back on track. And I'm the

675
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: one that sees it, right, so I know he may

676
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: not I mean, he.

677
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: May be somesbordination.

678
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: If you roll your eyes on the call, you know,

679
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 5: and you and you can see that. So I think

680
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: for me, as I see certain guys play, there's been

681
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: a lot of I would say, schematical.

682
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: Errors that have happened.

683
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: And I also think, too, it's just not it's it's

684
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: it's a it's not a perfect storm. It's just a

685
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: bad storm, and we can't get out of the storm.

686
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: And I like for us to get out of the storm.

687
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: It's it's almost.

688
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 5: Baffling to have the perception like these guys don't want

689
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 5: to play. Like, if you are a professional athlete and

690
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: you play for the Dallas Cowboys, you want to win.

691
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: You want to win.

692
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: You don't go out there and say, hey, I'm getting

693
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: ready to go out here and mess this play.

694
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: Up on purpose.

695
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 5: So one of the things is you start asking like, Okay,

696
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 5: everybody has to have buy in. If we're talking about

697
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: this defense, everybody has to have buy in for us

698
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: to somewhat be successful.

699
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: Right.

700
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: Not only do you have to have buy in, everybody

701
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: has to do their job and everybody has to know

702
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: that the other guys gonna do his job. So there's

703
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: a play that that came out and people have been

704
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: sitting I'm on social.

705
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 9: Media, say yeah, man, so I keep looking at this

706
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 9: play and this one of the linebackers and he just

707
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 9: takes off, right, he takes off and the guy kind

708
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 9: of cuts back and they score.

709
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: Well, you have to be careful when.

710
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Speaker 5: You're looking at something like that because a lot of

711
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: the a lot of fans don't know what the play

712
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 5: call is, right, So you gotta know kind of like

713
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: somewhat what the play call is. However, the defender has

714
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: a responsibility of stopping the guy that's coming that that

715
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: has the ball. Now, again, once you do your job,

716
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 5: you gotta go stop the on defense is very simple,

717
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: stop the.

718
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: Guy with the ball. Well, when you have some guys doing.

719
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: One thing, you have another guy doing a different thing.

720
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: So you had another guy that's on that defensive line

721
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: and he kind of just win he rollball. He annihilated

722
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: his guy in front of him. But the but that

723
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: wasn't his job, right, right, Your job is not to

724
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 5: just go play one on one ball. Yeah, you may

725
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: have something may have happened, but again I don't know

726
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Speaker 5: what the play call is. But I guarantee you that

727
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Speaker 5: the person that was circled that everybody's looking at that,

728
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: that that's not his fault.

729
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't his fault.

730
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Speaker 2: And Monday Brian Schottenheimer told reporters that that was not

731
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Speaker 2: on Kenneth Bury, the linebacker, Like like you say, same

732
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: sort of thing. He said, It's really easy for people

733
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: to think that that's not what it is, that's his gap,

734
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: that he's he's supposed to stand there, and ultimately the

735
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: defensive tackle was Kenny Clark the I believe just it

736
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: was that's not where he was supposed to be. And

737
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Speaker 2: a lot of times that's that's the sort of thing

738
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: that's really hard to pick up. And they you've talked

739
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: about this before, you started to get a real passion.

740
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Speaker 2: I feel like in the last year especially just like

741
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: I want to help people understand like what this is

742
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: really about and those intricacies, and we saw some of

743
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: those intricacies backfiring on them on Sunday with the offensive

744
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: line and trying to read those zero blitzes shot. He

745
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: talked a lot about Harrison Smith and how good he

746
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: was at being up at the line of scrimmage, not

747
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: getting baited by the cadence and then waiting til the

748
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: last second of bailout and change what they were looking at.

749
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Speaker 2: Talk to us about how difficult that is for the

750
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Speaker 2: offensive line when you're looking at eight guys on the

751
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and you got to go, all right,

752
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: who's coming, who's dropping back?

753
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Speaker 4: And this offensive line has not I don't think this happens.

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Speaker 10: I have had four straight games where you could say

755
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 10: five guys played, not even four tackles have been constant

756
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Speaker 10: the first eight games.

757
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Speaker 4: We missed our right guard at.

758
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Speaker 10: One point, I left guard at one point, I sent

759
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Speaker 10: it at one point, and.

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Speaker 4: Then sometime all of them together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this.

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Speaker 4: Offensive line has not had.

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Speaker 10: Time to jail and become truly affected. When you go

764
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Speaker 10: up against uh, the guy we just played against, the

765
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Speaker 10: defensive coordinator. What is you go against him? You know

766
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 10: what that is?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 4: You know what that is.

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Speaker 10: That's a mind game all game long. It's two guys

770
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Speaker 10: in the league. Spagnola for Kansas City Floris. Yeah, these people,

771
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Speaker 10: that's what they do. They mass confusion and you you

772
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Speaker 10: bringing in the third and fourth team Ryman trying to

773
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 10: get you know that one't gonna work.

774
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Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna blast him.

775
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna blast, but I am gonna ask me

776
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 10: when we go to training camp next next year. Come on, Cole,

777
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 10: let's let's play some of these dudes in preseason. Yeah,

778
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 10: you know what they can get, you know, take you

779
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 10: jail a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on that, because I think there's a

781
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 5: there's a misconception when a lot of times in preseason

782
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: you you would see like you want you want the

783
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: starters to go with, like, hey, let's watch the start.

784
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: The game of football is about injuries. It is a

785
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: game of injuries. And so you gotta get that next

786
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: man some reps.

787
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: You can't just throw.

788
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Speaker 5: Him in the fire because because because on the other side,

789
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: those guys get paid too. And if he we know,

790
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 5: if that guy's a third string anything, I can't get

791
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 5: beat by a third string anything, like I'm coming after him,

792
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: right and and and that's just the mentality, just the

793
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: way it goes. It's not it's not even a matter

794
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: of ex's and o's at that particular time.

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of will you know. And so

796
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: we've run into a few of those.

797
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Speaker 6: And do you realize in the fourth quarter they had

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Speaker 6: the third string offensive tackle in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And it wasn't pretty.

800
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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 10: But the thing is this this you have another year

802
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 10: you know coming up. You know, this year gonna get over,

803
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 10: It's gonna eventually get over. Then how do you how

804
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 10: do you start your OTAs? Do guys take it serious

805
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 10: enough that they stay around the building and and do

806
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 10: their thing, because in this new world, you know, when

807
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 10: I came in, you had to stay up. I don't

808
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 10: know how strict Bill was with y'all about making sure

809
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 10: you get together do some things off the field, because

810
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 10: you can't have the coaches there, So you gotta find

811
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Speaker 10: some guys that's gonna lead you in the right direction.

812
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 10: I don't know who those guys are. I don't try

813
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 10: not to comment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, on the point, but I think

815
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: I think Shoty is the right guy to create the culture.

816
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: Like that's one of the things I've been very impressed

817
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 5: with him, you know, especially as a former. I mean,

818
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: I have no skin in the game, you know. And

819
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: two I could tell when somebody's being bony or not.

820
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Speaker 3: I mean, and and he is.

821
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Speaker 5: He's authentic and he's able to ARTICU those guys go

822
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: out and they play for him.

823
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: Yes, now we're talking about him.

824
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: So so now we got to start talking about this

825
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 5: succession plan because we've been having some issues defensively, Like,

826
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: so one of the issues is who is next like,

827
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: we don't need to pile up on the coordinator.

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Speaker 3: We know just it. Who's next? What does that look like?

829
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Speaker 5: Because if we had more of a succession plan, he would.

830
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Speaker 3: Have been gona.

831
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Speaker 5: You gotta think about who's the who's the who's the

832
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 5: most tenured defensive coach right now?

833
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Speaker 3: On the staff? Right now, right now, I think they

834
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: changed everybody over pretty much.

835
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Speaker 7: The whole staff's changed.

836
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you still your whole staff.

837
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: You get rid of one guy, you still got the staff.

838
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Speaker 3: He may not be calling the player. You just want

839
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: to put in the placeholder. Yeah, I mean that what

840
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: we want to do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

842
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: It's still it's still the same scheme. Yeah, nothing's gonna change.

843
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 5: And so I think that's that's that's just the reality

844
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: of where we are now.

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Speaker 2: You know, whenever we there's a lot of talk about

846
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: after the Vikings game, there were a lot of fans

847
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: who had said stuff like, uh, you know, man, if

848
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: we could run a scheme like that, we we should

849
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: be doing things like that. And there's been a lot

850
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Speaker 2: of discussion about that. We're gonna take our last break

851
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: when we come back. I want I want to touch

852
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: on this point with both of you guys the idea

853
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: of why you might want to look a little more

854
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: static if you're already having some commun vacation issues and

855
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: not trying to rotate guys around at the last second

856
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: of the staff.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that. We got Brady James here with.

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00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: Us, and that'll be next on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 2: Here we got Mickey Spagnola from from Dallas Cowbys dot Com.

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Speaker 7: What are you laughing about?

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Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you off that.

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00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Nate's gonna tell you over their definitely tell it on

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Speaker 2: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, three time Super Bowl champ,

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00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: six time Pro Bowler and keeper of Secrets Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: and then our Cowboys ELEVENI this evening is not other

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00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 2: than former Albums linebacker Brady James. So we just talked

878
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: about it heading into the break a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: I'm curious from from both of y'all's perspectives as players,

880
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: the idea of why it can't just be as simple,

881
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: especially if you've had some assignment busts and things like that.

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00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: White can't just be as simple as We'll just blitz

883
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: everybody or like, ah, you know, just try to disguise

884
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: everything or do this or that. I mean, I think

885
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: Zim last year early on tried to do a bunch

886
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: of different disguising and some of his creeper pressures and

887
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: his sims and different things like that, and he realized

888
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: like halfway there's like all right, we got to change

889
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: some stuff up here. So explain why that can't be

890
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: as simple as just well, just blitz or just do

891
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: this or disguise it. Don't let everybody know exactly what

892
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: you're doing.

893
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, defense on the defensive side, I

894
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 5: mean you you have to have some kind of base defense.

895
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: Like if you don't have a base defense, you.

896
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: Can't get exotic your your exotic defense can't be your

897
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: base defense. You know, you don't drive your Lambeau every

898
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 5: day every day call r So, So I think when

899
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: when fans may want that you want you you want

900
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: to put pressure on someone where you got to understand,

901
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: like you want more points scored on you or you

902
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 5: want less points scored? Are you because the points are

903
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: getting scored, it's just how you want to take it.

904
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: And so that's just where we are schramatically, and that's why,

905
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 5: that's why you have to have the right right personnel

906
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 5: with the with the scheme to help you.

907
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: Nate, I know it was a similar kind of question.

908
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: On the other side, there's a lot of talk obviously

909
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: about motion and that that became a big thing of

910
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: just a couple of years ago. Sean McVay and Kyle

911
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: Shana and everybody's just saying like, oh, we want everybody

912
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: to run motion one hundred percent of the time and

913
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: do different things. And I remember Aaron Rodgers got asked

914
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: about this. They're like, why don't you use a lot

915
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: of much Why don't you like it? And he's like

916
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: I want to. I just want to look at it.

917
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: I want to look at it and know what I'm

918
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: looking at. I don't want a whole bunch of stuff

919
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: moved around. And then he and obviously as a West

920
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: Coast guy timing precision, if we're just on our steps,

921
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: then we execute, it's not.

922
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: As much of a problem.

923
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: Obviously, could be difficult for fans to take sometimes when

924
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: they think we'll just beat the guy in front of you,

925
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: why not try to get advantage? Why similarly, from the

926
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: offensive side, is it better to sometimes just have it

927
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: in front of you and execute it.

928
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: It's called intelligence.

929
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 10: If you have those type guys that can can go

930
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 10: in motion because you're running a slant, you may and

931
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 10: you may motion across and they give you a different coverage.

932
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 10: Now you ain't running a slant no more. You might

933
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 10: have to take off and run a nine round. So

934
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 10: you got to be smart. And more importantly, I told

935
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 10: this to my wife. I think today, whether it's not

936
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 10: offensive play, I mean a run play or pass play,

937
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 10: you got to still go talk to the offensive line

938
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 10: coach because he the one gotta block this up and

939
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 10: protect all of this. So you got five guys, you

940
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 10: better have ready to protect all this, All of that

941
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 10: comes into play of running it. And because you gotta

942
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 10: remember we played Detroit. We blitched them early and we

943
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 10: were stopping them. He did one thing and messed us

944
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 10: up the rest of the game. They took number zero,

945
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 10: leaked him out and put him out of the spot,

946
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 10: threw him out there and say come get me now.

947
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 10: Everybody else fell into place and they found.

948
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 7: A rhythm and it ran ripped behind the blitz.

949
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: So my thing is, have some intelligence about you.

950
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 10: If your team can digest what y'all want, if y'all

951
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 10: want the Andy Reid, the Ben Johnson, you gotta have

952
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 10: those type players that's gonna absorb all of this.

953
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: And more importantly, this game is still one with players.

954
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 6: And if you're blitzing, the guys better know how to blitz.

955
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 7: Just because you blitz doesn't mean.

956
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 6: You're getting there, right, I mean, if that blitz is

957
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: the answer to everything, why did the Vikings come in

958
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 6: here at five and eight? All right, So there's gotta

959
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: be a reason, right.

960
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 10: They a lot of times we we this this star

961
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 10: blinds us.

962
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: I came here when we were bad.

963
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: Brady, we were terrible.

964
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 7: Well, Brady came in when they had been bad.

965
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we were not food by the Star because

966
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 10: the coach wasn't gonna let us be. And a lot

967
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 10: of times we over value some of our players because

968
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 10: when we find out, okay, wow, he's really not a

969
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 10: cover guy, this guy really not this type of guy,

970
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 10: then you go to opposite way. You know how media

971
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 10: they go totally they overkill And so a lot of

972
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 10: these guys got to get through this season. If they

973
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 10: find another defensive coordinator, let's see what happened, because this.

974
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: Thing ain't gonna change overnight.

975
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a build.

976
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Brady, you know you had mentioned you talked about communications,

977
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 2: So it's probably not realistic to say you have eleven

978
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: great communicators on the field at all times.

979
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: Like different guys are good a different things.

980
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: But maybe it's not like the easiest thing to say, oh,

981
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: eleven of the best mental processors and communicators. Leyton Vander

982
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: has told us a couple of weeks ago, he was like,

983
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: just if I know what I'm doing, I can at

984
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: least help a couple other guys or canna just say, hey, Jude,

985
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: do this, and like I can kind of orchestrate so

986
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: for a defense, if you're saying, as somebody who's played

987
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: that position, somebody with who's worn the green dot, Do

988
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: you need eleven good communicators at all times? Or are

989
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: you saying like I need at least two guys on

990
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: each level.

991
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: Of the defense. How are you looking at like solving

992
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: that problem?

993
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: If you have communications, I really don't think you need

994
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: multiple communicators.

995
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: I think you gotta have all buy in.

996
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 5: If you got one, you gotta go back to the

997
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: Indian and the Chiefs, you know somebody. I mean, if

998
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 5: we're all wrong and we wrong together, we got a

999
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 5: better chance than two guys being wrong and ten guys

1000
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 5: being right. I mean, you know, you know the man, Yeah, yeah,

1001
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 5: nine guys. So with that being said, I think you can't.

1002
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 5: You don't need to. It's really to buy in from

1003
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 5: the players. Like when they have been getting these calls.

1004
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. They have been out here

1005
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 5: trying to execute these calls. They have they have been

1006
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 5: trying to do it. We've seen the result and so

1007
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 5: at some point, I mean, is it working like you?

1008
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 5: I mean, we are human, you know, And that's that's

1009
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: why I was saying, like being being a signal caller,

1010
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: you get a chance to see everybody. You see everybody's

1011
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 5: responses and so so there are certain things that I

1012
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 5: pick up even watching it on TV. I'm like, yeah,

1013
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: he's gonna make a mistake on this.

1014
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: Know what they call it?

1015
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: You know, that's what Isaiah isaiall stand back.

1016
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 10: He'd be like, y'all can see it, man, something, he

1017
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 10: can see it, Like Isaiah can see it.

1018
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: I just say he got to go here.

1019
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 10: If he told over here, it's gonna be a hard

1020
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 10: throw incompletely, I'm like, hold on, how you saw that?

1021
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1022
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 10: Well then like I saw this dude step inside and

1023
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 10: that one step costs us a sack.

1024
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1025
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just.

1026
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: The attention to detail and those parts of it are too.

1027
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean, guys, I mean this.

1028
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 5: These are NFL players and they have played a lot

1029
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 5: of ball and all letting and o's and it's about

1030
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 5: pride and the name on the you know, on the

1031
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 5: back of your jersey.

1032
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 10: Now, yes, you know both of them, yeah, both of

1033
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 10: them name and the.

1034
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 6: Man Dat Wind was standing next to me in training

1035
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 6: camp one year. He was doing radio and San Antonio right,

1036
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 6: and we're watching practice and he turns to me and

1037
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 6: he goes, all right, this is what.

1038
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 7: The play is gonna be And I go, what do

1039
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 7: you mean?

1040
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 6: He recognized what they were doing, and he'd been out

1041
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 6: of the game for ten years and he knew but.

1042
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: He was a green like you.

1043
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1044
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he taught me for no reason. There you go,

1045
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: there's the solution.

1046
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: We just get about a bunch of Brady James and

1047
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of Dad Wins and the defense will be fixed.

1048
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: Brady James, thank.

1049
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: You so much for joining us tonight on the SBC

1050
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,080
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1051
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,839
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1052
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,160
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