WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Help Needed At Safety? 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.840 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.159 ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.520 It's time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:28.280 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.200 we are back and the Cowboys will be back on 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.720 paths today. I remember Garcia. I joined by Nickiman, Derek 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:40.040 Eagleton and mister Dave Hellman. Are you happy? Yeah? Okay, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.280 that's just making sure you seem very quiet this morning, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:48.160 always happy. How are you guys doing great? Great over here? 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.160 I forgot we had a host. I told you we're 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:54.240 mixing this, not host. We sing up. Derek and I 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:59.400 have team up to be better hunger, to be better 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:06.319 by anger. We've team up to make this better. That 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.600 doesn't sound that good, but anyway, So I last practice, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:21.040 last padded practice. I okay, that's when people are all draining, Derek. Yeah, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.280 but do you come up and save me Hollywood, and 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:29.920 people are dating? I can I'm married exactly. Yeah, okay, 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.800 so last padded practice? We well, I gave you guys 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.120 a homework to watch the defensive backs. So that's what 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.560 we're gonna get into every show. We're gonna try to 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.600 focus in one specific group, and today's topic defensive back. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.640 So I want to go around the table to start 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.160 it off and just kind of tell me your overall 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.200 opinion of the group from what we watched on what 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:01.400 was it Sunday? Yeah, Sunday Sunday, Derek Um I was 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.800 impressed and underwhelmed all at the same time. And the 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.840 reason why I say that is because, and I think 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.840 it's gonna happen like this for both the defensive backs 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.359 and the wide receivers. There's some moments when you see 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.960 a spectacular play that one side makes, and then the 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.800 next minute you'll see a spectacular play the other side makes. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.120 I don't think either one of those groups. And we're 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.160 gonna focus in on defensive backs, but I don't think 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.280 there's a guy yet that has that has done just 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.880 been so remarkable on the defensive side of the ball 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.680 that every time he's out there, you expect him to 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.000 shut somebody down. Norther, I think they have those kind 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.880 of players right now in the development of where they 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.960 are as players. So I think you're gonna see a 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.119 little bit. Sometimes you see some wins, sometimes you see 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.280 some losses. I think that's just kind of the general 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.160 nature of what this defensive backgroup will be. Yeah, the 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.919 best defensive backs are going to be the ones that 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.079 have a good pressure up front, you know, and you're 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.119 not gonna see that a lot out here, because they're 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.079 not gonna just be flying to the ball and knocking 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.840 the you know, the ball out of that quarterback's hands, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.320 are rushing him to make those rolls, so they're always 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:02.960 going to be at a disadvantage. They do one on 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.000 one drills, you know, wide open spaces there, and you know, 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.040 they get beat a lot, so they get beat most 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.639 of the time. And the one on one drill, so 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.160 I think they've been okay. Um, but you're never really 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.280 gonna be great unless you've got these shut down corners, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.880 and I don't know if they have that right now. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.120 I think the receivers win those battles most of the time. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.800 Anything that stood out to you during that practice, I 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.000 agree with all of that. I just overall, I just 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.440 feel really good about the competition at cornerback because I 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.400 think you've got about five pretty solid guys. Yeah, I 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.640 mean you don't have probably don't have a lockdown corner 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.160 on this team right now, but I don't have to 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.800 have one about that you don't. But I feel really 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.920 good about it. Um, it's we talked about this on 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.600 the last show we did, which I guess was what Saturday. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.600 Now we did a show yesterday. Yeah, I'm dumb, It's okay. Um, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.760 it's hard to judge safeties. And not only is it 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.960 hard to judge safeties, but like there just aren't very 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.280 many of them. Cavon Fred is not practicing right now. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.160 I don't know if he's gonna practice today. But so 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.240 you're looking at Jeff Heath and Xavier Woods and they're 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.800 not really allowed to do the thing that makes them 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.400 good at what they do. So it's hard to get 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.080 a beat on that. But I feel good about the 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.120 competition at cornerback. Well, let's start off and jump bright 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.159 into cornerbacks in safety is a deeper issue or bigger issues, 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:24.800 And can I say something real quick in before you 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.120 jump into that, just so you guys know, we're as 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.039 we've been doing throughout training camp. We have a quote 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.200 question up on the mobile app, so if you guys 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.760 want to interact with the show. The question is which 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.120 defensive back are you most excited to see this season? 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.320 And we mentioned the normal group of characters, the three cornerbacks, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:47.080 Jordan Lewis, m Leos, we have the Bron Jones, Cheetah Bay, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.720 and then we also listed both Jeff Heath and um 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.600 what's the other on Xavier Woods. So you guys go 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.039 out there, let's know what you think. By the end 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.640 of show, will know what the fans think of that 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.760 which which player they're most excited to see in the 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.280 second Gary this year? All right? Perfect? Okay, So let's 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.760 get into cornerbacks. And again we've we've talked about Byron 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:12.040 Jones moving back into position, and it's hard to determine 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.200 at this point whether he's going to be great or no. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.240 We talked yesterday, we talked about him being a great 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.400 practice guy last year, and so far this year he 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.520 has proven to be that again. Now, is this any different? 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.760 Do you see any difference compared to last year that 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.839 will make you feel positive that this change was worth 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:37.440 the move. That's a really interesting point because Byron Jones 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.359 lit the world on fire at camp last year. He 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.920 looked awesome, at safety, and I think everybody on this 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.039 show and probably the other shows we do, would have 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.680 said he was one of the two or three best 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.120 performers of camp. And he wasn't bad last year by 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.880 any stretch of the imagination, but he certainly wasn't the 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.040 pro bowler that you might have hoped for coming out 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.800 of training camp. So I try to keep that in 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.479 the back of my mind with every thing I do 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.960 and say. I think Byron does too, for that matter. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.640 But like I said yesterday, I just he's so long 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.839 an athletic and I think that plays well to a 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.640 position where I'm simplifying it, but you really only have 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.640 one job, just take care of the guy across from you. Um, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.440 And like I said, I know there's more to it 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.240 than that, especially with the defense Christopher Shard runs, but 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.599 I think that might be more suited to his athletic ability. Yeah, Nick, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:31.359 yesterday you touched on Jerry Lewis and him you feel 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.520 confident that he's gonna step up and win that role. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.080 But as of right now, the way that you're watching 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.640 him in practice, you know, he's kind of the next 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.839 guy up, you know, type of thing, and he's being 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.920 left behind a little bit and Chris Richard talked about 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.080 him being a special guy. Despite the he's not necessarily 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.200 the physique the ideal physique for a corner he still 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.159 has a lot of ability to step up. Yeah, I 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.280 think he's the option to the rule. And that's what 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.960 UM Christopher Shards said. I you know, if the coach 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.560 is gonna come here and say this is the type 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.760 of guy that he likes, you know, obviously, you know 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.760 you have to justify that, and guys like Byron Jones 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.040 are gonna make the move. And so far he looks 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.600 pretty good. I just think when the dust settles throughout 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.200 the season, I think the best cornerbacks on the field 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.800 are gonna be Cheeto and Jordan Lewis. I think those 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.679 two guys will rise to the front whatever however that 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.080 that that is and wherever that they line him up. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.760 As UM, I think by the end of this season, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.800 I think those two will be your clear cut cornerbacks. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.520 You know something really interesting I never noticed then. This 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.120 was me and Brian watching practice and he pointed it 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.520 out and I never paid attention to that. How long 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.720 his arms are like despite his height. No, no, no, Jordan, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.240 Jordan Lewis he has freaking long arms. I'd come down 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.480 to almost his knees, and I guess that his team. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.400 That's why he's on this team because he does not 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.120 have the height but look for but he's got the length. Yeah, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.640 so that I mean, I just never actually paid attention 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.560 to that, and it's impressive just to see those freaking 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.560 tentacles just coming out. But let's go back real quick 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.880 though to what Nick was saying about Byron Jones. I 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.640 look at Byron Jones and do you at least do 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.800 you at all give him a little bit more, give 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.800 the possibilities of him being a really good cornerback a 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.800 little more chance. When you think of it from the standpoint, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.480 he was drafted in the first round for a reason. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.760 He obviously had some amazing athletic ability. And the Cowboys 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.320 since he's gotten here, they've kind of been like, Okay, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.040 play him a little bit of corner and I think 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.839 it's gonna play a safety. He's gonna be a safety. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.920 But then he wasn't. That safety wasn't what he did. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.840 And so now they got him back at corner being 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.720 coming into the year knowing he's gonna play cornerback, preparing 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.760 to play cornerback, preparing his body to play cornerback. Do 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.199 you expect that that gives him a better shot at 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.720 being a quarterback, in which case he ends up being 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.120 one of the better, one of the best two cornerbacks 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.360 and keeps the starting job. Yeah. I mean, like he's 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.199 got a shot for it. There's no doubt about it. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.160 And I don't think that this hasn't been one Kyle 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.200 wilbur where they back and forth his rookie year, they 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.240 were trying to figure out where to go with him. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.640 By his next year, he was a safety all the way, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.320 and he's safety. This is to me kind of his 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.280 last shot because we didn't know he was gonna be 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.120 back for a fifth year. We didn't think that he 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.839 would be and he is. And you know, like it 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.520 makes some sense he was getting. You know, he was 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.800 a lot of piggyback rides that they're at safety, and 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.640 so the physical stature to play safety really wasn't there 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.400 for him. So now that you know this could be 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.199 really good at corner, especially the way they're going to 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.080 play him. I think if he does really well at corner, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.240 I think this goes well for him. Maybe a new 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.200 contract here or somewhere, and I think it goes really 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:43.960 well for your defensive backs coach. Because this team doesn't win, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.240 go to the playoffs, are all that stuff. There's gonna 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.319 be a lot of changes, and I think he will 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.040 be one of them. A lot of people will be 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.760 going out, He'll be going up. I think, especially if 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.680 a guy like Byron Jones, because it's a specific thing. Hey, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.040 I like bigger corner, this is I like to play 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.120 him here. He's been okay here, I'm gonna move him here. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.920 Oh he did well, Well, what else can we do here? Right? 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.920 And I really think Christopher Shard's the guy that is 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:14.080 going to move up two levels, jump from position to head. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.480 And I don't, to be honest with you, whether it's 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.520 here or somewhere else. I think his arrow is pointing up, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.000 and I think he certainly has that kind of potential 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.480 for the future, at least all the things you hear 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.400 about him and what people think about him. So I 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:31.920 think that's I don't think that's at two levels here. Yes, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.840 I really believe that if I think that he will 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.080 be if it if it doesn't happen this year, I mean, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:39.439 if it didn't happen at the end of the season. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.360 I mean, I think he'll be the next head coach 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.680 of the Cowboys. Wow. Wow, I said two levels. No, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.240 but you just said, like, I think he'll be the 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:51.360 that's a pretty big statement coordinator. I think that's that's 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.600 where I think his potential is. I really do. I think, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.720 and I think guys like the Byron Jones experiment stuff 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.920 like that, it's a good way to start. I know 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:04.040 he's never coached. I mean that derails the topic a 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:08.559 little bit. I know, I think I think the world too. Yeah, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.440 I think everybody does. And I think he'll be an 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.040 NFL head coach. But in this in the scenario you're postulating, 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.760 you're talking about a house cleaning, and I just don't 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.000 think that you hire a guy from the old staff 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.960 to be your head coach. If you're cleaning house, I 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.080 think you go. I mean, unlike the last time, if 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.880 it's no, well, all right, you're I mean, if you 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.120 want to hire, I guess you know, if it's another 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.079 situation like how Jason Garrett got the job, where you're 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.400 making the change, I'm thinking more like if you make 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.720 the change in January, got you, I don't you know, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.520 like if you're gonna fire Jason Garrett after eight years. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.560 I think you're gonna go do something just new and 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.680 completely fresh in a different direction. And blah blah blah. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.679 What's fresh he's but he's the he's the DBS cut. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.000 I just I don't see it. It's fine. I might 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.960 be on I don't think to get to get more 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.680 on the topic. To get more on the topic at hand, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.360 I don't think Byron Jones would have had his fifth 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.120 year option exercise if Chris Rashard hadn't joined the staff 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.120 to be perfect, which is why I think Byron Jones 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.040 is going to start sixteen games at cornerback for this team. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.120 He might not make the Pro Bowl, but I like, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.920 you know, I brought up Brandon Carr yesterday. I think 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.800 it's gonna be said like, he'll be good enough to 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.920 do the job. He's got his coach's confidence. And I 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.800 said this yesterday too. If Jordan Lewis is going to 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.840 crack the starting lineup, I think it's far more likely 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.160 to be at nickelback, at least for the time being. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.559 Which you know, I'm not trying to dog the guy 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.079 too hard, but Anthony Brown has had his slips here 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.360 in these first couple of days of practice, which I'll 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.400 be curious to see because we know Chris Rashard likes 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.000 his big corners. He said, Jordan Lewis is the exception. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.559 He's been second team since the team started practicing, even 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:48.240 back in May. So if Anthony Brown struggles and they 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.160 don't give Jordan Lewis a shot, that's really curious to me, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.400 and it says a lot about how Chris ra Shard 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.720 feels about what he needs to run this defense. Because 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.920 I'm sorry, ahead, sorry, I was going to ask you, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.760 do you guys think that the position that Jordan Lewis 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.559 is at right now, could this mess up with his development? 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.920 Maybe a guy that we saw last year that was, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.760 you know, turning into something really good and was shining. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.600 Now you kind of put a step in front of 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.760 him and kind of stop his progress a little bit 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.520 just to give Byron Jones the chance. Do you think 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.880 this affects him in a negative way? I don't because 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.360 these corners play a lot. I mean, it's no different 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.760 than Orlando Scandrick in his second year, and he was 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.240 a guy that was like battling with Mike Jenkins and 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:36.680 he didn't get the job. And he was a little 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.640 bit of a funk for a little while, but then 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.760 he played a lot. He still played and he kept 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.520 moving up. And if those cornerbacks have a chip on 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.960 their shoulder that I think they seem to play better 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.560 with that. I don't think it's going to mess up 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.240 his progress. And at this point in their career, I 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.839 actually like the competition. I prefer for young cornerbacks for 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.320 them to have competition then to have it's your job, like, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.640 I want them having to go out there and prove 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.280 that they are the guy that should be in that position, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.280 rather than them having it kind of solidified for them 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.199 as they go into training camp. So I think that's 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.240 a good thing. That's what I like about this team overall. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.080 It's so young that almost every position there's competition going 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.640 on because they know everything's up in the air. There 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.640 aren't a lot of solidified things where we absolutely can't 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.320 take this guy out of the lineup other than the 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.400 offensive line, so everybody every other position, these guys can 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.760 really battle and figure out where they belong. Not only that, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.680 but as a second team corner I mean Jordan Lewis 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.880 is getting just as many reps as Anthony Brown. Is 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.600 you know, he's doing all the one on ones, he's 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.280 doing all the seven on sevens, and maybe the second 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.920 team gets a few fewer reps than the first team, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.960 but like, not by this significant margin. If he's not, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.400 if he's not one of the top three corners by 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.040 the time the season starts, then I worry about hindering 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.960 his growth. But then again, cornerbacks play so much in 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.400 today's NFL, and you've got to count on an injury 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.960 somewhere at some point. So, but thinking about it and 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.920 about it, thinking about it from that standpoint of let's 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.480 assume that Byron plays the whole season. Let's assume Byron 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.800 has a really good season, then you do have to 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.040 make a decision because if Byron's contracts up, but he 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.160 had a really great season and you believe in where 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.000 he's going, contracts not up though, Well, if it gets 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.400 to the point where the Cowboys gonna have to make 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.400 a decision on his contract right at the end of 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:11.960 this year, do they not have to make they already 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.640 made that decision. Chris Richard was like, we're re upping them, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.840 so the fifth years, not this year, it's next year. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:18.920 So they got him for two years yeah, the fourth year, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.640 So does that become again the question I still think 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.080 still remains. Does that then become a little bit of 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.160 a hindrance to Jordan if you get into a sect 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.640 another year or Jordan doesn't make the starting lineup? Could 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.000 does that affect his development? Could? I don't, But you know, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 if Byron plays at the level they want him too, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.120 it'll be a nice problem to have. I mean, having 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:44.080 too many corners is not a problem having exactly Yeah, exactly. Okay, Well, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.800 let's go ahead and take our first break real quick, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.200 and when we come back, we're gonna get into the 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:54.720 whole safety position safety. It can be hard to find 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.200 the right resource for learning about important financial matters. You 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.560 search how did build savings? 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We just 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.560 got done discussing cornerback and now we're gonna jump writing 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.080 to safety, one of my favorite topics because it's one 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.760 of the most upsettings. Still, Yeah, I can't do this anymore. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.160 I'm sorry. We've beaten it to death. Amber. Oh, we've 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.040 talked about it over and over and over again, but hey, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.480 the problem is still there, so I guess we just 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.600 have to keep talking about it. You raise a valid point, 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.159 So as of right Nowaday, if you mentioned over and 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.480 over how hard and difficult it is to evaluate some 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.480 of these safeties out here. But at this point, and 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.800 we we've heard the Cowboys talk about the possibility, if 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:38.800 needed down the line, to move Cheeto to safety, and 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.960 that's something that we've all come down to an agreement 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.600 that we don't like that idea, right, I think Nick, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:51.280 does you do? Nick? I mean, I think he's I 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.280 think he's the best corner you've got, and I think 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.200 that he could be really good there and you need 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.520 a great corner. Um. If this whole thing about what 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.600 do we pay Byron and what about Jordan Lewis all 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.960 this stuff, if that really is still happening in your 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.640 safety's not doing well, then I can kind of see it. 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.040 I just doubt that that's going to be the case. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.840 But if you have problems at safety, then then you're 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.119 gonna have to move somebody over there. Is it Byron? 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.480 Is it Cheeto? I think you move somebody or you 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.399 trade for one if there's one available. I'm trying to yeah, no, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.320 I'm trying to keep Cheeto right where he is. Hopefully 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.720 Kavon Frasier can get back on the field quickly. I mean, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.520 if if it's a blood disorder. It's you know, it's 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.000 not a hamstring. Take all the time you need figuring 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.600 that out. But M but no, yeah, I don't. I 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.000 don't want to do that. And so hopefully we see 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.199 as much of these three guys. But if it's not 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.919 going to be a blockbuster deal like you know, you 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.520 know who, and they clearly, for whatever reason, they don't 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.359 seem interested in signing a guy like Kenny Vaccaro, Trey 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:58.520 Boston's off the market. Finally, that seems like a type 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.240 of situation where maybe you d a late round pick 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.600 or a surplus player for a veteran, you know, when 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.320 you make those roster cuts that happens every year. They've 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.959