1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. This is just a terrible, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: terrible story. Maybe you're just getting in the car and 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: you haven't heard, but a conservative activist named Charlie Kirk, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: very well known in political circles, was shot in the 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: neck while speaking on stage outdoors at a university in Utah. 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: He's the head of Turning Point USA, which is the 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: nation's pre emitted conservative youth activist organization. He's only thirty 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: one years old, very influential. He's not only an organizer. 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: I've got thousands and thousands of people organized to get 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: interested and support conservative Republican causes. He also became a 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: part of Trump's inner circle as well as an outside advisor, 13 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and he hosts a podcast which is very popular and 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: in fact, he hosted Gavin Newsom as a guest a 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: few months ago. You may remember that he was shot 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: in the deck by somebody from about two hundred yards away. Obviously, 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: the details are still filtering in minute by minute. According 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: to the AP, Charlie Kirk is alive, but in critical condition. 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: And let's talk now to Kurt Bardella. He is a 20 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: political contributor for News Nation, the cable TV network. Kurt, 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: how are you. 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing okay. How are you doing today? 23 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm all right. You know, there's a lot of video 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: out on the internet. It's really hideous. It's really difficult 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: to see. What do you know? I mean, what have 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: you heard anything? 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: You know? 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: I think we all are digesting this information in real 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: time together. And like you, I've seen a number of 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: the videos that are already on social media showing different 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: advantage points. Obviously, there's one that has a close up 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: of the shot that appears to have you know, gone 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: to the net a lot of bleeding. 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: You know that it's. 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Incredibly disturbing to watch. And you know, I think you know, 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: everyone obviously is uh, you know, mortified and horrified that 38 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: this has happened. And you know, I know, as everyone 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: across the political spectrum from what I have seen, Republican, Democrat, 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: left right, Uh, you know, is you know, hoping for 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: the very best, uh, both for Charlie but also his family, 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: who's you know, living through this net near right now 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 2: is a father, you know, two kids, Uh, and it's 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: just unimaginable to think what they're going through right. 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Now, UH, describe for people who are not familiar what 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: role Charlie Kirk plays in the whole political media ecosystem. 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: For conservative voters in the Trump system. 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: You know, we have seen, you know, over the last 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, five or six years, a complete seed change 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: in how media works, how you know, politically engaged people 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: absorb political content, and Charlie Kirk has been at the 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: forefront of that. When you look at the influence that 53 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: podcasts have versus cable news, when you look at the 54 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: ability to mobilize and activate and particularly in Charlie's case, 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: reach younger voters consurted Republicans under the age of thirty UH, 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: investing in the future of the political party. Charlie has 57 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: been the most I think effective figure in marshaling and 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: harnessing that UH and seeing results at the ballot box. 59 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: You know, we saw in the last election President Trump 60 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: makes significant games across those demographics that that Charlie has 61 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: spent you know, the last five or six years investing in, 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: and so his political impact has been extraordinary. And again 63 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: when you think about a someone who's only thirty one 64 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: years old, that it is remarkable and an amazing foresight 65 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: and incredibly entrepreneurial to build something like that. He started 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: building this when he was in his twenties. Folks like 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: it is and here we are now, and he is, 68 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: as you well characterized it in you know, one of 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: the key advisors to the President of the United States. 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: How did he do this? Like, what did he do 71 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: over the last years? I guess for the last thirteen 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: years or so to build this media empire and influence empire. 73 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: One of the smartest things that he did was headquartered himself. 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: Not in Washington, d C. Not in New York or 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: LA all their respect to LA, which we love, of course, 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: but in Nashville. And you know, when you think culturally 77 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: about the Republican Party, you know, I think a lot 78 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: about just the country music industry. And it makes so 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: much sense that if you want to have that cultural 80 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: impact and have the same people who buy a ticket 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: to see Morgan Wallen or Luke Cohmbes or Jason Alden 82 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: also become Republican and activate and participate in the politic process, 83 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: go where the people are. Go culturally where some of 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: these conversations are unfolding. Every day on country radio you 85 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: hear the story of blue collar America on the airways 86 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: through their songs. And I thought that one of the 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: most brilliant, strategic and important moments in Charlie Kirk turning 88 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: his his you know, one man band into a full 89 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: fledged multimillion dollar media company was deciding to go to 90 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 2: Nashville and doing it outside the beltway elite media circles. 91 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: He hosted Gavin newsib on his podcast a few months ago, 92 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: which got a tremendous amount of attention, and they actually 93 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: had a very civil conversation. And if I remember that, 94 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was the one who got Newsome to a 95 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: hand that maybe boys playing women's sports was not a 96 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: good idea. 97 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's the thing. Unlike a lot 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: of folks to play in the media game, Charlie has 99 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: not been afraid girl to sit opposite someone who believes 100 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: the complete opposite of everything that he espouses and actually have, 101 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: as you put it, in a civil conversation about it. 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: And and that's the country we need to get back 103 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: to here. No matter where you sit on the political spectrum, 104 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: we've kind of be able to talk about these things 105 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: without the without fear of violence, without the threat of violence. Uh, 106 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: you know, the bedrock principle of our country, you know, 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: is you know, opposing viewpoints, having the ability to just 108 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: exist in a free society without fear of retribution, without 109 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: fear of being in twenty first century terms canceled. And 110 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: you know, I thought that having it was good both 111 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: for Charlie and good for Governor news From Frankly for 112 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: being on that right. I mean, how many Democrats you 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: think would line up and be willing to sit across 114 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: from a Charlie Kirk. 115 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: Not many? 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: And so well, they both they both got a lot 117 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: of critics. They both got a lot of critics, is 118 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: them from their own side from talking to each other, 119 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: which is amusing, Which. 120 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Is Bigannas By the way, it's like if we are 121 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: at a point now we're to any political party, if 122 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: it's disqualifying to sit there and talk about what you believe, 123 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: to send what you believe, and we're going to say 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: that that that's disqualifying. 125 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Uh, that's not. 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: The that's not the version of America that I want 127 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: to participate in. I applaud people from different viewpoints who 128 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: have the courage and have the respect for the other 129 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: side and have to sit down and have that conversation, 130 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: because if you're not able to articulate what you believe in, 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: why we believe it, effectively, artfully, in an honest discourse style, 132 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: that then what you believe in is just theater. It's 133 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: just clickbait theater. And I'm so uninterested in that conversation. 134 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people that's country are tired 135 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: of that from both sides. 136 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you have to wonder is this going to 137 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: be is this going to trigger something worse coming along? 138 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 5: You know? 139 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: And I would tell you any Democrat you know who, 140 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: even if you vamently disagree with everything about Charlie Cook 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: Kirk says, you have to, you know, be heard stead 142 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: against this. And for any Republican who wants to see retribution, 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you are not helping your cause. When you 144 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: resort to violence to try to express yourself. You are 145 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: anti American, You're un American. You are the best of terrorist. Frankly, 146 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: if you are willing to use violence to silence someone 147 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: that you disagress politically, in my book, that makes you 148 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: domestic terrorist, and anyone who participates and engages in violent 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: behavior should be treated as such. And the worst thing 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: you could do for your side for your cause is 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: to use violence to try to get your way. It 152 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: will backfire. It will only serve to motivate that which 153 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: you're trying to silence, and it makes your side look well. 154 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Frankly Kurk, thank you for coming on with us. 155 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: Kurt Bargella, he's a political contributor with News Nation, the 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: TV cable channel, and he's been a strategic communications advisor 158 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: and media relations consultant for more than two decades. And 159 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: we will be talking to Carl Demiele, the Republican Assemblyman, 160 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: right after one thirty. And there's not a whole lot 161 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: of detail here. According to the Associated Press, Charlie Kirk 162 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: is still alive, but in critical condition, but no other details. 163 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Also will tell you what we know about the alleged 164 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: shooter based mostly on photos and videos. 165 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: Right now, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from 166 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: John Cobelt's show, and we're still trying to get more details. 168 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: The whole world's trying to get more details on what 169 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: happened to Charlie Kirk. He is the conservative activist and 170 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: media podcast influencer thirty one years old who has done 171 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of work organizing young people in this 172 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: country to get interested in conservative causes, Trump causes. He's 173 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: one of Trump's top outside advisors. And he was doing 174 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: a presentation at Utah Valley University on stage outdoors and 175 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: he was sitting in a chair and somebody shot him 176 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: in the neck. It's a horrific video and blood started 177 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: pouring out of him. He was taken to the hospital 178 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: and still alive, according to the Associated Press, in critical condition. 179 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: I'd mentioned right before the commercial break that there was 180 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: video and photos of a guy that was a possible suspect. 181 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: It turns out that man wasn't involved, was not is 182 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: not the suspect he was. He did really fit the 183 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: part if you looked at him. He was an older guy, bald, white, 184 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: fringe hair on his hands and knees. Apparently he was 185 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: yelling something about his rights, so maybe he was misidentified. 186 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: So they don't have anyone in custody, and that is 187 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: according to Utah Valley University, where the shooting happened. Spokesperson 188 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: for Utah Valley University, Ellen Treeener, said Kirk was hit 189 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: by a suspect who fired from a building about two 190 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: hundred yards away the Lusi Center. And originally they did 191 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: take in that older man I just described, not a student, 192 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: but now they say that man was not involved in 193 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the shooting. So we'll see. It's very, very difficult in 194 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: the early hours of any kind of news story, especially 195 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: a shooting, because chaos ensues and people get very emotional, 196 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: very excited, people start blurting things to report. There's a 197 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of like fake stuff that goes out immediately on 198 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Twitter and everywhere else. Hey, John, Yeah, we actually got 199 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: right on Deshaney on she was an eyewitness at the event. 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: If she want to talk to her, yeah, sure, put 201 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: her right on. She's there, Okay, right on, how are you? 202 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: I'm good? Lack things pronounced to Shane. 203 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Actually to Shane, well, thank you for taking time to 204 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: come on here on KF five. Tell me what you 205 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: know or what did you see? 206 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: Well? 207 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 5: I was right up front. I mean but literally the 208 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: little walkway for the people that were going to do 209 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: that prove me wrong debates walked their walkway was right 210 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: in front of me. So I was literally up front. 211 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: He was on his second, one second person. Ironically, they 212 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 5: were talking about the recent match shooting with the transgender 213 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: and how they're talking about limiting their their access to firearms. 214 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 5: And next thing I know, I hear pop, just one pop. 215 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: I see Charlie's head go back and just blood gushing 216 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: out of him. I kind of turned my head up 217 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: because I felt like it was coming. The shot came 218 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: up from behind me, and then we all dropped all 219 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: it was just dropped to the ground because we didn't 220 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 5: know if he was going to start peppering us or 221 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: the shooter. I can't assume who they were. And then 222 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: next thing I hear, they just everybody saying run and 223 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: we just took off. 224 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of video of people streaming out of 225 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: the venue. You you were outdoors. What kind of venue 226 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: was this? Like an amphitheater? 227 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't really an amphitheater, So it was it 228 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: was kind of a smaller little area. There was these 229 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: buildings that were kind of together, and there was like 230 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: a walkway and there was people up there on the 231 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 5: top of the walkway. The but the people, the security 232 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: of the cops moved them off the top because we 233 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: would have looked straight down where Charlie was at. And 234 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: then then it was kind of like a kind of 235 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: like a stadium type of seating was with big rocks. 236 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 5: I mean it was not like like stadium like you 237 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 5: would see at a stadium. I mean it was just 238 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 5: like the way the layout was and uh just kind 239 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: of a little hill so it was just kind of 240 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 5: a little groove type thing. That's how I'd explained it. 241 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I guess what was the purpose of this event, like 242 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: what was the theme event or who organized it? 243 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: So it's done by gosh, I'm trying to remember the 244 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: name of it. It's it's pretty wrong. And Charlie Kirk 245 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: is one of the founding I think he's one of 246 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: the founding members of it. It's America. Hold on, I'm 247 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: trying to find my picture because it would sell me 248 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: better America America Come Back Tour. 249 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: His main organization is Turning Point US. 250 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: A Turning Point yes, thank you. Yeah. So what they 251 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: do is they just basically go out and sometimes he's 252 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 5: got people like Riley, like Ridy Gaines and other people 253 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: too as well with him, but mostly it's him and 254 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: it just were He wants people, mostly college kids for 255 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: the most part, that are a little bit more on 256 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: the left side leaning side, to come up and you know, 257 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: do their point and debate him basically, and I've watched 258 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: him forever on YouTube. I love it. I'm a little 259 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: more right leaning, but I do enjoy hearing stuff about 260 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: the left because it opens my mind of maybe I'm 261 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: seeing things a little bit too in in a smaller lens, 262 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: and I just need to open that lens. So I 263 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 5: just kind of like having that wide view. So that's 264 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: why I went, because I just wanted to see it 265 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: live and learn. 266 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do in Utah? 267 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: I actually work in a marketing department. 268 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: At the college. 269 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 5: No, no, I'm old, I'm old. I don't go to college, 270 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 5: and my kids do. 271 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: But not at that school. 272 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so this was an open event here. 273 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an open event. You could just sign 274 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: up for a ticket and they didn't even check your 275 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: tickets when. 276 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: You got there. It's just it was. It was incredibly 277 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: shocking to see it on video online after it happened. 278 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine what it was like to 279 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: be in the front rows there and witnessed it close. 280 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean standing, I mean standing rom onely so yeah, yeah, 281 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: yeah it was And he came out and he threw 282 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: hats and you know, the biggest test appointment for me, 283 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 5: right then? Is I didn't get a hat? Yeah, and 284 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: now I'm thinking that was super trivial. 285 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, thank you very much for coming on 286 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: and telling us your experience. It's so yeah, you're welcome, 287 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: all right, and right right on to Shawn I think 288 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: is her name? Right? All right? I got CNN report 289 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: that what Radon just mentioned. Charlie Kirk was answering a 290 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: question about transgender mass shooters in America schools right before 291 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: he was shot. Here's the exchange. An audience member says, 292 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass 293 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: shooters over the last ten years? And Kirk replied too many. 294 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: The audience member went on to say the number is five. 295 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: And if Kirk knows how many mass shooters have been 296 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: in America over the last ten years, counting or not 297 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: counting gang violence, he replies. Seconds later, the sound of 298 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: a pop is heard and the crowd screams as Kirk 299 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: recoils in his seat, well hitting him in the neck. 300 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Carl Deamya is scheduled up next the Republican Assembly. Who 301 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: knew Charlie Kirk or knows Charlie Kirk? Charlie is last 302 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: Report is still alive and. 303 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI six. 304 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four and after 305 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app. 306 00:17:54,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk a very influential activist and conservative politics podcaster organizer. 307 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: He was shot today while putting on a presentation at 308 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Utah Valley University in Orum, Utah, and he was sitting 309 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: on stage. He had a big crowd watching him. And 310 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: he has this tour that he goes on where he 311 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: takes questions from everybody in the audience. You just walk 312 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: up to the towards the stage and you speak into 313 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: the microphone. And he has created like his brand is 314 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: that he tries to have civilized conversations with everybody, regardless 315 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: of your political viewpoints. He was the one who hosted 316 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom on his podcast you know, some months ago, 317 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and it was while he was answering one of those 318 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: questions from an audience member that a shot rang out 319 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: and got him in the neck and blood started spurting 320 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: everywhere and people screamed and streamed out of the venue. 321 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: It was an outdoor amphitheater type setting. He was sitting 322 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: on stage in a chair. We're going to talk to 323 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: Carl Demayo now, and Carl is a Republican assemblyman from 324 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: the San Diego area and knows Charlie Kirk. Carl, welcome. 325 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: And this is just such a terrible, terrible day. It's 326 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: the unbelievable, the evil act, the violence. It has to stop, 327 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: and you know, this is not the way our democracy 328 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: is supposed to work. Our thoughts and prayers are with 329 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and his family, and we're hoping for the best. 330 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: But let's be clear about this. It's not just some 331 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: mentally deranged individual who should be held responsible for this 332 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: act of violence. When you have politicians and media outlets 333 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 3: that use inflammatory rhetoric and say that people who are 334 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: conservative like Charlie Kirk are quote homophobic or anti trans 335 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: simply because they support parent rental rights, or they call 336 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: ICE agents racists, saying that ICE agents and police officers 337 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: are hunting people, hunting people based on their skin color. 338 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: This inflammatory rhetoric is outrageous, it's false, and what it 339 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: does is it adds fuel to the fire of mentally 340 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: deranged individuals and it makes them feel as though violence 341 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: is acceptable. It dehumanizes people who have different points of view. 342 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: And you got to understand, Charlie Kirk went to college 343 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: campuses because he knew that this is the sort of nonsense, 344 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: inflammatory rhetoric, false rhetoric that students are exposed to every day, 345 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: one sided points of view and turning point. One of 346 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: the elements of its mission is to reach out to 347 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: college campuses, and that's what Charlie Kirk was doing today 348 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: when he was the victim of violence. He was doing 349 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: his job, he was following his past. He wanted to 350 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: make sure that college students for both sides, his courage 351 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: every event that he did, because he has had threats 352 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: against him over the years, and he's been targeted because 353 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: of the inflammatory rhetoric used by politicians and media outlets 354 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: and the left. And so no, I'm not going to 355 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: just sit here and say thoughts and prayers. I will 356 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: assign a portion of the blame to those on the 357 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: left in office, like Governor Devin Newsom and the legislators 358 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: who just this week said that ICE agents were anti 359 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: brown and anti black. And this rhetoric has to stop 360 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: because it's dangerous, and whether you're a Republican voter or 361 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: a Democrat voter or anywhere in between. When you hear 362 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 3: Governor Newsom say crap like that, when you hear your 363 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: legislators say that, you need to condemn it, and media 364 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: outlets should not be carrying those comments. They should be 365 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: condemning those comments. 366 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: Talk about Charlie Kirk, what's he like personally? 367 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: This guy's brilliant. I mean, he built this national organization. 368 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: He's got legions of followers. You know, he's passionate about 369 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: his work. He's confident and in his points of view, 370 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: but he's willing to hear people with different points of view. 371 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: He's willing to be questioned on his points of view. 372 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: Unlike MSNBC, where you can't get a conservative invited on, 373 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk always would invite libbles to his events so 374 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: that he could answer their questions, that he could dialogue 375 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: and that people listening to the dialogue can be more informed. 376 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 3: That's courage, it's tenacity, it's an exceptional talent. And you 377 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: know he was out doing what he's best known for, 378 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: drawing a crowd and engaging an intelligent conversation in respectful manner. 379 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: He also is uh a top outside advisor to Trump, 380 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: and this may have been a message to Trump. 381 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 6: Uh, and he was I think, well, I think I 382 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: think charge. I think Trump already got the message when 383 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 6: he was uh, you know, targeted not one but two 384 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 6: assassination attempts. I mean, I think everyone on the on 385 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 6: the right has. 386 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: A message today, John, everyone has a has a message today. 387 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: That that that that. 388 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: That interrupt excuse me, Uh, CNN is reporting that Donald 389 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: Trump says Charlie Kirk is dead. Oh my, that is 390 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: CNN reporting what Trump has put out. 391 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's devastating. It is so painful, and 392 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm shaking to the core. 393 00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 394 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: I had many interactions with Charlie Kirk, such an exceptional 395 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: human being, a leader, family man, and this is just devastating. 396 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: And as an elected official, it really strikes at someone 397 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: like me and my colleagues because we're out there in 398 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: the public square and what happened to Charlie Kirk today 399 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: could happen to any of us for just doing our 400 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: job of meeting constituents and answering questions, which is what 401 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 3: we're supposed to do. We're supposed to be available to 402 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: the public, but it comes with risks that mentally deranged 403 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: people who are spun up by inflammatory political rhetoric in 404 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 3: the media might do evil things. And this is just 405 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: such a tragedy. It's not just a tragedy for conservatives. 406 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 3: This is a tragedy for Americans. This is a tragedy, 407 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: a low point in our democracy that this is happening. 408 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on and sharing your thoughts. 409 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. I know there's a lot of personal 410 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: pain for you in this, and I appreciate that you 411 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: spend some time with us here and we'll talk again soon. 412 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. 413 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: John all right, Carl Tomeile, Republican Assemblymen from San Diego. 414 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: Kristen Holmes is the CNN senior White House correspondent who's 415 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: right now reporting that thea Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk is dead. 416 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: That's what Trump is saying, That's what CNN is reporting. 417 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: They just flashed this on the screen moments ago. Fox 418 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: News is now reporting the same thing that Trump announced, 419 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: that Charlie Kirk is dead. We will be back in moments. 420 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 421 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: six forty. 422 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I'll read you Donald Trump's post on truth social from 423 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: twelve minutes ago. He wrote, the great and even legendary 424 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood or had the 425 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: heart of the youth in the United States of America 426 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: better than Charlie. He was loved admired by all, especially me. 427 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: And now he's no longer with us. Melania and my 428 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: sympathies go out to his beautiful wife, Erica and family. Charlie. 429 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: We love you. Trump reporting that Charlie Kirk the conservative advocate, activist, 430 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: and media personality. He has a popular radio show, He's 431 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: got a podcast that gets hundreds of thousands of downloads 432 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: every day, and he co founded a conservative political organization 433 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: called Turning Point USA. He was the executive director. Did 434 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: that when he was eighteen and he was thirty one. 435 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: So the last thirteen years he has built this machine recruiting, 436 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: energizing young people around the country and get them interested 437 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: in conservative causes that Trump promotes. And he's constantly on 438 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: speaking tours. And today he was in orum Utah at 439 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: Utah Valley University on stage and he sits in this case, 440 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: he's sitting in a chair and he takes questions from 441 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the audience. They line up and go to a microphone 442 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: up front and he's willing to talk to anybody about 443 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: anything political. And his whole idea was, let's have civil conversations, honest, 444 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: blood conversations, but civil. And he really went out of 445 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: his way to talk to as many left wing people 446 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: as possible at these events, as well as everybody else. 447 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: And today somebody shot him from the top of a building, 448 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: according to reports, I've got a stress here. Almost everything 449 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: you hear you got to put an asterisk on it, 450 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: because we've done too many of these stories where in 451 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: an hour or the next day, the information is entirely different. 452 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: So there's there's there's no final version of events at 453 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: this point. But they'd say that there was somebody on 454 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: the roof of the building of the Loci Center two 455 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards away and a sniper took him out, shot 456 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: in the neck, right in front of the audience. It 457 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: was an outdoor ven you an amphitheater like setting and 458 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: got him in the neck. Blood was spurting out everywhere. 459 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: Trump had heard previously, it seems that it was very 460 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: serious and not going well. He had made other comments 461 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of preparing everybody for the worst news. And he 462 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: had built quite the empire all by himself. He was 463 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: a part of Trump's inner circle of outside advisors and 464 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: was credited with turning out a lot of young people 465 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: to vote for conservative candidates and for Donald Trump. He 466 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: launched a campaign in twenty twenty to recruit a million 467 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: students for that particular re election campaign. So very well 468 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: known in those circles. If you're not in those circles, 469 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: maybe you don't know him at all. But it's really 470 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: shocking the political and media world, especially have him assassinated 471 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: on stage in front of a large crowd. We just 472 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: had Karl Demaian, the Republican assemblyman, and news of Kirk's 473 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: death came on while we were talking, and Karl knew Kirk, 474 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: and he was very, very shaken up. So we are 475 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: going to talk. We still have someone coming on right 476 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: after the news, all right, Josh Margolin from ABC News. 477 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: We'll tell us the latest. And we don't know who 478 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: did it. They briefly there was a story that there 479 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: was a suspect in custody, turned out to be an 480 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: older man that the police had handcuffed and put on 481 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: his knees, and everybody thought he did it, although that 482 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: just did look right. But that guy is not a 483 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: suspect any longer, and there is no further word on 484 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: who did this. All Right, more coming up and we 485 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: have Debora mark Is live in the CAFI twenty four 486 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt 487 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Show podcast. 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