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Speaker 1: Let's address the elephant in the room, so called beef beef? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was it that I said that made you think

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it? Just watching like T n T.

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Speaker 1: It was an episode where you picked up my cake

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Speaker 1: cake and then it strew it all around. Oh there

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Speaker 2: Oh look at the cake, the cake, the cake coming in.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna say that's your birthday Superman cake

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Speaker 2: is in the right there, man cake?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even see what the know what happened? I

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, is he really missed off fat? Did

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Speaker 1: you get mad? Did I get mad? Yes?

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Speaker 4: You just talked about this attitude that I don't give

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Speaker 4: a fuck, attitude like that has been a problem for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I do a big, big, big pull me Toway.

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Speaker 3: I do We're big, big big sing it again. I

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Speaker 3: do a big, big, big pull me Toway. I do

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Speaker 3: a'm big big big sing it again. I do a pig.

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Speaker 3: I do a big, big big sing it again. I

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Speaker 5: What is up? What is good?

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Speaker 6: How you living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it is?

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Speaker 6: The big podcast was Shack where we always do it big.

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Speaker 6: This one's huge. And so with that being said, Shaquille O'Neal,

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Speaker 6: May I do a formal introduction, Yes you may. From

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Speaker 6: high school phenom to the Basketball Hall of Fame, block

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Speaker 6: shots and rebounds helped immortalize the name, three time Defensive

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Speaker 6: Player of the Year, an eight time All Star.

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Speaker 5: You throw up a wild lob.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter how far from dark contest titles to

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Speaker 6: a championship ring, speeding bullets, leaping tall buildings. To him,

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Speaker 6: it ain't no thing and the virtuals who allows today

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Speaker 6: it is a certified tower.

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Speaker 5: Put your hands together for mister Dwight.

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Speaker 1: Howe bos Okay, what did it do?

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna shut the fuck up now, let y'all go.

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Speaker 1: So the funny thing is, let's let's address the elephant

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Speaker 1: in the room, our so called beef. Yeah, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you a question that I didn't asked you the

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Speaker 1: other day. Uh Huh? What was it that I said

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Speaker 1: that made you think I didn't like you?

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Speaker 4: Uh? The part with the direct messages that we had,

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Speaker 4: you were saying that, uh, you're not as great, You're

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Speaker 1: So I just took that his name. You don't like me? Did?

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Speaker 4: I was later on in my career, but during my career,

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Speaker 4: I just felt like just watching like T and T.

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Speaker 4: It was an episode where you picked up my cake

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Speaker 4: cake and then just threw it on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, is he really pissed off at me?

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Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, it's just little things.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's big bro.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, It wasn't like for me,

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Speaker 4: it's like, man, I want to go at him and

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Speaker 4: do this that and the third it's it's like I

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Speaker 1: Did you get mad? Did I get mad?

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Speaker 4: Like not, I'm not that that didn't really make me mad.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just like what is he own? Like

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Speaker 4: why is he doing this? But then after I played

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Speaker 1: So do you think you should have got it when

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Speaker 4: Okay, Why would you think I should get angry with

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Speaker 1: Because I know when you get mad, you dominate. Stan

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Speaker 4: Well, stan Stan did get at me, but he allowed

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Speaker 1: And what's Kobe Bryant hard on you? And I don't

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Speaker 1: And I did go do that, but it was kind

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Speaker 4: He had just had surgery, the season was staying there

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Speaker 1: And we didn't really talk. And who do you think

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Speaker 1: he got that? He probably got it from you, exactly

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to be so fucking mad that I

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Speaker 1: And then when you said I was hating, and when

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Speaker 1: You don't think I told Kobe he wasn't great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand that. Well, I tell you to drive fucking

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Speaker 4: I totally understand that. But you were teammates with these guys,

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Speaker 1: Because you were there with them all the time.

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Speaker 4: the ken Babma Tumbo, I'm watching it. You know what

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Speaker 4: this motherfucking shit up, Like, I know you better than this.

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Speaker 4: You can do better than this. As your big brother,

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Speaker 4: So I just I didn't have. There wasn't a lot

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Speaker 4: you mad because they just Hey, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: We got to keep him in a good boat. I

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Speaker 4: I understand that, but I'm saying, like, how we talking now? Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't really care about a lot of bigs. But

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Speaker 1: So now that I know you, starting to raise your

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Speaker 1: got to work, I said, you know what, I hollered

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Speaker 1: at Jamia. I said, Jamie, this is my fucker soft.

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Speaker 1: He said, no, I ain't sofas all right, cool, I

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Speaker 1: the Hey, do you know I'm the Dwight. It ain't

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Speaker 1: ship Dwight. Ain't gonna do nothing that Jersey look at

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Speaker 1: all day. But you know what it is. But but

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Speaker 1: and I told you this at the bar. It's what

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Speaker 1: Kareem and them did to me. Remember I, me and

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Speaker 1: you were sitting at the barty the other day. How

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Speaker 1: close we were. I was that I was that close

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Speaker 1: to wool Chamberain. Motherfucker ain't saying nothing. I'm at the

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Speaker 1: the guy's said, hey, mister Chamberlain, that goes to Quilla

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Speaker 1: and me. Motherfucking Will did me like that? Motherfuck I

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Speaker 1: It is it something like I ain't doing wrong? So

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Speaker 1: I called my dad. I said, yo, man, just so Will.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't holler. My father said I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: talk to you either, pussy. You ain't win shit yet

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Speaker 1: and hung up. That's the type of shit I grow bo.

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Speaker 1: I just seen Will so next. So I'm playing We're

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Speaker 1: still getting fucking swept all that. But I'm averaging thirty

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Speaker 1: because you know, I put to myself, I said, I

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Speaker 1: Your boy doing all that other wild shit. We losing.

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Speaker 1: It's my fault because I'm not hitting fucking free thows Kareem.

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Speaker 1: He said, Shaq, Kareem's coming close to your records. He's

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Speaker 1: averaging this much in the playoffs, And Kareem says, is

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Speaker 1: he great if they keep getting swept every year? Now

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Speaker 1: Like when we want a championship in Orlando, you are.

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Speaker 1: And that's the life that we live. Damned if you do,

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Speaker 6: All right, Shaquille, our friends at Draft Kings as we

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Speaker 6: entering this ahead of time. We're letting everybody know. During

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the two that we win.

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Speaker 6: I'm well, we have to figure out who you pick. Okay,

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Speaker 6: we will start in the Eastern Conference. We will start

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Speaker 6: with the two seed Boston Celtics and the seven seed

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Speaker 6: Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Minus five thousand, which is that? I mean, you have

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Speaker 6: to bet five thousand dollars to win one hundred. That's

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Speaker 6: how big of a favorite. But that's how big of

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Speaker 6: a favorite there. We're not gonna take Orlando, Okay. Then

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Speaker 6: we're going to go to the New York Knicks and

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Speaker 6: the Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Cunham, his eyes when he was at the studio

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Speaker 1: scared me. Going with the wow.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so they are plus three ten. They are an

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Speaker 6: matchup is the Pacers and the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Dame's coming back, but I know with the situation he had,

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Speaker 1: he probably didn't get a lot of super cardio and

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Speaker 6: He's been out for the last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He probably did a lot of treadmill.

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Speaker 1: Haliburton is getting his health back.

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Speaker 6: I like, I voted him third team All NBA.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Indiana on this one. Okay.

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Speaker 6: Indiana was the slight favorite.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 6: So the East you have as Boston, Detroit, and Indy

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Speaker 6: and obviously we're not talking about Cleveland. They're the ones seed. Okay,

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Speaker 6: the Western Conference, now this is wow interesting. Two seed

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Speaker 6: Houston Rockets, seven seed Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 1: I think Houston showed me something. They put the double

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Speaker 5: But can they do it for an entire series?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was gonna say, can they do it for

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Speaker 6: Three points in that game he went like, oh.

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Speaker 1: For nine, he's gonna do something that they ain't seen before.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the experience of Golden State.

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Speaker 6: Okay they are. How about that? The seventh seed is

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lou's gonna hate me for this. I really never

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Speaker 5: They are hard and Zubach is having a career year.

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Speaker 1: But as the Lord Supreme with the big Man allions,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the big on this one.

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Speaker 5: And then the final one Lakers, Timberwolves, Los Angeles and

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Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for me? Yeah?

456
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 4: I do, like as far as uh, with everything that's

457
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 4: been going on, you know, with like the top seventy

458
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 4: five and stuff like that. Do you feel like I

459
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: was a little disrespected in that manner?

460
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: Or of course you are, But again I felt you

461
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: should have played a certain way, in a certain style.

462
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: And the unfortunate thing about you in your career is

463
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: you got caught right at the middle. Yeah, the middle

464
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: end of your career and the new beginning of this

465
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: new fucking shift because you were like you and a

466
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: couple of guys with the Holy Senters left, they start

467
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: going to the pick and pop shit, and now we

468
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: have this bullshit that we're watching now. Uh, should you

469
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: be on until seventy five? Yeah? But I said, if

470
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: it's not unanimous, then you shouldn't have been. I wanted

471
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: to pitch you off again. Kinda understand like marketing is

472
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: everything for guys like us. You know why, you know

473
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: why market the shit on myself? You know why you

474
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: market the shit out of yourself. Nobody roots for Goliath, brother,

475
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: You realize that, right? Yeah? You know I'm saying, So

476
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: we gotta do. I gotta do what I gotta do.

477
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: What I gotta say.

478
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: But if me and you are the two biggest giants

479
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 4: on the earth, and me and you are fighting each other,

480
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 4: and then then everybody's gonna look at you and say, Okay,

481
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: he's the first one, he's the original Superman, so we're

482
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: gonna rock with him, and then we don't disrespect the

483
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: other one because the one, the first one, he don't

484
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: really fuck with him from how they looking at it.

485
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So Okay, but do you

486
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: care about that.

487
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't, but they have cost me a lot of things. No,

488
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: they have not with the NBA.

489
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 4: Okay, so if you say that I shouldn't be on

490
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: top seventy five in the public, now, that's a perception

491
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 4: that the whole world is going to look at because

492
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: because it's coming from you, So they's stamping your word

493
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: regardless of how I play.

494
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: But who gives a fuck about what they say. Let

495
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: me tell you something about life. You should don't only

496
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: care about your mother, your father, your brother and sister,

497
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: and your beautiful kids and your beautiful wife, all these

498
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: other motherfuckers. They don't give a fuck about us. You

499
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: are absolutely correct. Let me tell you a day that

500
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: broke my heart. I'm in Orlando. Alex Martin comes to

501
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: me and he says, hey, man, w W want to

502
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: do something at your house? And I'm like sure. I

503
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: see fucking Rick Flair and Hawk Hogan walking together shaking hands.

504
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: That broke my heart. You know why I broke my

505
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: heart because me being part of they, I thought they

506
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: hated each other because you but you probably don't know wrestling,

507
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: but Rick Flair and I thought they hate each other.

508
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: But I had this event in my house, and these

509
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: motherfuckers were talking to each other. I'm like, the fuck

510
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: is going on? And then it hit me. So it

511
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what they think, because you got to understand

512
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: when when we say something, they talking about who about you?

513
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: And that's it market in one on want. Nobody understands that.

514
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I can't hate you. The only thing I hate about

515
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: you is you jump away higher than I did. The

516
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: only thing I'm jealous. I wish I could fucking I

517
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: wish I could jump like that? Oh good, but like

518
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: that like that.

519
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't see how it looked from somebody else's angle,

520
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: how crazy?

521
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Like?

522
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: How was it like me jumping the duncan, like me

523
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 4: jumping at duncan? I don't know how it could look

524
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: to somebody else.

525
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Whenever I watched my tapes and I dunk, of course

526
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I jump, okay, and it just looked like but when

527
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: you jump, it looked like you got a fucking high.

528
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: He made me like, which kind of made me mad.

529
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie like you. I'm sitting there with

530
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: my ex wife and you put on the Superman cape.

531
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I thought you just paying homage to me, But there

532
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: fucking Kenny Superman, super man, and then you go into

533
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: Orlando and start calling yourself superman. I was like, Okay,

534
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: I said, I like it, but I don't like it,

535
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna fucking go with it. You see what

536
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I could have went out and be like by,

537
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: but I say, you know, I don't know his plan.

538
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's trying to do. Maybe he's

539
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: trying to do the old karate thing, which is, what

540
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: the fuck are you supposed to do? The young master,

541
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: the young student much someday killed the fucking master to

542
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: become the master, you're supposed to do it. I don't

543
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: give a fuck who it is. So I'm like, okay,

544
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: maybe this my fuck trying to hit me with my

545
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: own ship. Let me go with it. That was the

546
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: first thing that made me go, Okay, I don't know

547
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: what he doing, but let me doing. Hey, Dwight's down

548
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: that my fuckerin Dan dominant. Now I got to see

549
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: who I'm dealing with. Oh that's my fuck. Twenty six enough,

550
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: you need to get twenty five fifteen. Like I'm like,

551
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you you hit me with my own shit? Like, okay,

552
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: this is from Rick Flair. Ho Hopie shit, let me

553
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: go with it. And then you got in the DM

554
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: like motherfucker you hate bro Huh. I'm like, my fuck you.

555
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: So I think I think that's where Yeah, it's just people.

556
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I think that's where I know it. Yeah, because I think.

557
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: But but let me tell you, don't ever listen to

558
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: the outside noise.

559
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 6: Brother, So is someone who is the outside noise? Let

560
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 6: me ask my first question. I love this conversation is

561
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 6: great and I appreciate you both. So Shack, you heard

562
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 6: the Superman shit and you went, oh, this is the

563
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 6: young man trying to kill the master. Hold on Dwight

564
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: in your mind, were you was the whole like Man

565
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 6: one day we could be back to back Superman Like

566
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: what were you thinking?

567
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: It's crazy because the Superman was about Soldier Boy, and

568
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: it was about it was about it was about So

569
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: when I was in practice, I used to always play

570
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: the song.

571
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: I played Soldier Boy all the time.

572
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: And right before that, before that dunk practice I had,

573
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: I had jumped over a bo outlaw and dunked it,

574
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 4: and so everybody was like, man, you should put a

575
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: cape on and jump for the free throw line. You

576
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: be flying when you dunk, and you always be doing

577
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: the Superman. So I was like, shoot, all right. Then,

578
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: remember we had a conversation about I need to show

579
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: my personality when we was at before All Star Weekend.

580
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: After we had that conversation, my cousin I was like, bro,

581
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: we gotta go find a Superman outfit to put on

582
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: for the dunk contest. I just got finished talking with Shack.

583
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: He said, I gotta really show my personality. So I

584
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: was like, shoot, I'm finna put on the cap somehow

585
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: and go crazy. So he find a cap, but he

586
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: find a whole outfit with the boots and all. But

587
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: I can't wear boots in the dunk contest, so I

588
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: had to tie it around like a one with my

589
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: shorts and all that. And then I did the dunk.

590
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: But the dunk was me doing the Superman all the time.

591
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: And that's where it came from. My teammates was saying, man,

592
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: you always lifted crazy weight, so you always jumping real high.

593
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Man, you act like Superman, so you know, I can

594
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: admit it. I'm sensitive. So after you did the dunk,

595
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: you gave me a kind of a look. He was like,

596
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: this is my fucker. So and then I'm looking at

597
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: Kiddy oh no, and I'm like, listen, I realized I

598
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: was responsible. Yeah I'm not. I realized I'm not shocking

599
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: mom at the end of my but I'm like Dank

600
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker let me go out great and mocker

601
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: just trying to take my ship. Okay, hear that, And

602
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: that's where it started. But it's always a w W

603
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: W E beef. Yeah. Yeah, all motherfuckers I hate in

604
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: the league. I ain't gonna see you at a restaurant

605
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: with your family and throw your food open and be like, hello,

606
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: the wight hot baby, is how you're doing. I'm Uncle

607
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Shack And that's it. This this, this is the life

608
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: we live. We talked ship, we talk smack. My favorite

609
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: thing that's going on right now is with Gail's podcast,

610
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Arena Brandon Jennings and the dudes they gonna play. I'm

611
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: loving that ship. But I know off the court, the

612
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: motherfucker's ain't gonna fight, but I know on the court

613
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk ship. Yeah. The general question, inquiring minds

614
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: want to know which team was better my my Orlando

615
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: team or your ORLANDA team. Yeah team, what you mean

616
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: they won a game? We want to.

617
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: Yah?

618
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, good point. So we got we gotta.

619
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: Have we gotta be one up because he won one game.

620
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: At least give us one game.

621
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh but ball on, let's bowl on, let's break it down,

622
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Penny all the way. Who's your point, Jamiir.

623
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: We had three We had a three headed months, Jim.

624
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 4: It was hurt when we went to the finals. We

625
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: had we had uh Anthony Johnson and we had.

626
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: All right. So at the two we had uh Nick

627
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Anderson who you had after two? He turu no michal Teachers,

628
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: we win that bottle. At the three we got d

629
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: Scott who y'all got Turculu right at the four. At

630
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: the four we had Horace Ground, we got a Sean Lewis.

631
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: That's equal out. That's three ball. And and then you man,

632
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: you gonna found each other out because that's all we did.

633
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Every time we played against each other's out shut out.

634
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: So we gotta be done.

635
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 6: What's funny as I looked it up, you guys when

636
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 6: facing each other, it was six and six and then

637
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 6: there was a lot of foul out every time.

638
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: You know what, I really hated you. I was in

639
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland and you was fucking killing me. But your eyes

640
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: kept doing that fucking move going through the Yeah yeah,

641
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: going through. I said, Okay, I'm about to take a

642
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: charge of his buff if I take a charge of

643
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: fell Yeah yeah, boy fucking bangund Yeah. Shack out there

644
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: clopping because we can't guard the wait offer. Mother Oh bro,

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Speaker 1: That's what it was for me. But if I got

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Speaker 1: personally anyway, like I told you the other day at

687
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Speaker 1: the bar, if you surprised me at the bar, so adam,

688
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm at the bar. He had got he had just got,

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Speaker 1: he just got his jersey retire whoka going on?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

691
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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and then again, everybody think we're

692
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna fucking f everybody. D White already said, hey.

693
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: So you're told me. The whole restaurant is.

694
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 10: Like everybody, everybody is old. Everybody's look.

695
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: Soon as I got to that, I was like, hey man,

696
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: the wight over there, I was like, all right, cool,

697
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: So everybody already are. So I'm sitting there and I'm

698
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm fucking breaking the rod for the first time. So

699
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I got my back to the door.

700
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: So my boy with me, he's smoking. So D White

701
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: come up with this big motherfucker, big swoll muscle do it?

702
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: And they standing behind me. So my boy stand up like, yo,

703
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Somebody behind me? It was your butt? Yeah,

704
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: but you have somebody with you. I didn't know nobody

705
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: was yeah, so so no motherfuckers standing behind me. My

706
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: boy jump up. He almost said the hookah and living like, like,

707
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: what the fuck you tell? You know? I can't turn

708
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: my neck, So I turned. I see d White. I

709
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, here we go. Oh were about

710
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: to tell Thiswether fuck up? Just like, hey, big fellow

711
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: got talked to you. So I said, so we go

712
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: on the back and before he started talking, I said, hey, man,

713
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: what makes you think I don't like you? And we

714
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: just talk about it and then I tell him I

715
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: approach and then he tells me his feelings. I tell

716
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: him my feelings. I probably could have did it a

717
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: different way, but that's not what I know. I did

718
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: the same shit Penny, and look what it did to him.

719
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: I definitely did the same shit to Kobe. I drove

720
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: that motherfucker like all that practicing like twenty hours a day,

721
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: that's because I told me it wasn't shit. Maybe it's

722
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: because his own will and all that. But now all

723
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: that dribbling between leads, you're not fucking doing that. Throw

724
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: me the motherfucker boll this my motherfucking team. I'm gonna

725
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: be the Will Smith over the NBA. Not why the

726
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: fuck I'm here, You not throw me the fucking about

727
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: like it just fucking drove him crazy. And I used

728
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: to see him go crazy and he never fucked and

729
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: crazy thing is all that shit me and you doing

730
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: it was the same with me and him and practice.

731
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing as soon as he get around

732
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: Jim fucking Gray and as soon as I get around

733
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: my boy. But I didn't want to stop it because

734
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about us and I already knew. I said,

735
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I know what the fuck I'm gonna

736
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: do inside the triangle. I know what he's gonna do.

737
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Keep going with it. Oh, Kobe Shock gonna like it,

738
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: Jail all right, we won the first championship. Always tell

739
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: people you ain't got to love me, you got to

740
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: respect me. Yeah, you know how it is, like we're

741
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: around each other so much, we're gonna argue, We're gonna fight.

742
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if you think I'm your

743
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: best friend of I because we have a job to do, right.

744
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: But I always tell people, I said, okay, he hated

745
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: me or whatever. In our first championship, the arena, everybody

746
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: runs on the floor. Who's the first motherfucker to jump

747
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: in my arms, Kobe. That's it, and that's what it's

748
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: all about. So year two, I gotta do the same thing.

749
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: And then year three he's coming at me. You're fucking fat.

750
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: So now it's he's he's starting to grain at leader

751
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: and like we're going off. And then he did what

752
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. He got rid of the old master. Hey, Jared,

753
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: you don't get rid of my fuck I'm going And

754
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: I respected that, but I kept it going. So now

755
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: that I got d Wade and other people, and man,

756
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: you ain't that good and you're gonna ask him what

757
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: he's saying, say, hey man with Shaq crazy. The only

758
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: one I didn't do that too was Bron because Brian.

759
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I was super impressed when I got to Cleanland with Bron,

760
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Bron already had that ship under control. Like Bron to

761
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: me was have you ever played with Bron? Yeah?

762
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: They want a championship.

763
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: So when I got there, as young as he is,

764
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: this motherfucker was a true leader, and he was such

765
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: a leader. He was doing ship I never did. Like

766
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: he got to bring his family on the plane. I'm like, damn.

767
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I I was like, damn, I got it.

768
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 6: Let me ask a question because I've sat next to Wight,

769
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 6: I've sat next to Shaq when he has done the

770
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: motivation thing a lot. I've seen it to Donovan Mitchell,

771
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: I've seen it to Jamal Murray. I've seen it recently

772
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 6: to Victor Wemban Yama. That's the way Shaq wants to

773
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 6: help young people. Sometimes they don't understand it, sometimes they do.

774
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: What was it like for you to be on the

775
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 6: other side, because you're one of the few people that

776
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: have gotten that. How was it for you?

777
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

778
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 4: Well for me, I was taking it like, man, I

779
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: haven't met Shaq like this, so why is he criticizing

780
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 4: me in this way?

781
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: You know?

782
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: But I only looked at it from my perception, you know,

783
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: I didn't see what he was trying to do, how

784
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: he was trying to motivate or anything like that. And

785
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: like I told him, my oldest brother he passed away

786
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: super young, you know, he was in his forties, and

787
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: I didn't get an opportunity to build and bond with

788
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: him because he was in jail most of his life

789
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: and so most of my.

790
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: Life and I didn't get a chance to see him.

791
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: So there was never a older brother type relationship that

792
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: I had outside of the people that was on my team,

793
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: and I was so far removed because man, I'm coming

794
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: here at eighteen, I went to the smaller school in Georgia.

795
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing coming into the league. All I

796
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: remember is watching Shaq beat up with Tombo. So the

797
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: first person I'm interacting with I'm looking up to is

798
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: you know, this is our interaction. So you know, I

799
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: didn't know how to take that as a younger, and

800
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: you know, I did go hard. But looking back on

801
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: a lot of things, there were things that I could

802
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: have did more of, the things I could have did

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: less of. And I said I could have been did

804
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: I could have been meaner. I could have been less,

805
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: less nice and meaner in certain situations. I think as

806
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: far as being mean, it's going to take what I

807
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: want by force, you know what I'm saying a lot

808
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 4: of times I did that in Orlando.

809
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: But then sometimes I stopped.

810
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: When I moved to other teams, I stopped as I

811
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: was worried about my perception, worried about if I do

812
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: too much, I'm gonna get in trouble, you know, all

813
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: these different factors because I didn't want to get myself

814
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: put out the league, So it's so many different things.

815
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: I was factoring there for me, I'm looking at when

816
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: I leave Orlando. It was like a switch in the league.

817
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: You know, they're not wanting me to be the same device.

818
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 4: So it was like, man, where do I find a home,

819
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: you know, to play and all that stuff. I go

820
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: to Charlotte, I have a killer season average seventeen and thirteen,

821
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: thirty thirty, thirty and thirty gay and I get traded.

822
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: So it's like, dang, what do I do to stay

823
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: in this league? It was a difficult time.

824
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you, like I said, you got caught in that

825
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: that real transition of where we are now. But I

826
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: always tell people what made me great wasn't my work, habits,

827
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: wasn't me practicing. It wasn't It was I didn't give

828
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: a fuck. I don't know the fuck, but nobody say it.

829
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 6: But the people do You say that shape because you

830
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 6: believe most people give too much fucks.

831
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: I think they do, and we have to focus on

832
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: the task at hand when they're talking about us. You

833
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: don't win the championship in on Land, though, who follows it?

834
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: It is always my fault me too, you know, go

835
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: right in LA who fault. Is it that what I'm saying.

836
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: So my my thing was, you know what, I don't

837
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I'm doing it my way, and you know,

838
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: like you know that persons at one time my comments

839
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: as great as you are, why you went I come,

840
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: you got played for sixteens because I didn't give a fuck.

841
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: I didn't like the good thing about my upbringing is

842
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm used to moving every four years. So when I

843
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: was doing my negotiation with Orlando, there, we don't want

844
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: to pay that, all right, cool, I'm used to moving bye.

845
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: And then you know, same thing with la Oh, y'all

846
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: don't want to pay me because y'are dealing with young okay, bye.

847
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: I caught them like, so I'm it's actually good for me.

848
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: It's good for my psyche. But I think that's that's

849
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: what made me who I am, not that I'm bigger

850
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: and stronger and jump out. I just didn't give fuck

851
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: about what nobody said. And yeah, you you did play

852
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: in that difficult transition. But I always try to put

853
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: my mentality in here, like man, fucking people, fuck that

854
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: pick and roll. You got an old boy and you

855
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: dominate dominated, But yeah you're you, means I kind of

856
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: dealt with that. My last year player with Boston. Doctor

857
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Speaker 1: was like, we don't want you to post. I want

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Speaker 1: you to pick a roll. I'm like, damn, I'm not,

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Speaker 1: but shit, I could least still give you my fucking fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but you know, just give me some touch of no. No,

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Speaker 1: just get to pick a roll and get the ball.

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Speaker 1: Just get it to Rondokage. I'm like, all right, beto,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, I kind of you know, I understand

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Speaker 1: with what you were going through.

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Speaker 6: next ultimate teammate, uh Dwight, Who has been your ultimate

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Speaker 4: That is tough man. The first name that always come

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Speaker 4: to mind is Jamiir Nelson.

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Speaker 1: A lot. Yeah, we fought, we fall into ding ding

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Speaker 1: ding ding ding.

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Speaker 5: But why beyond the fighting, why jam.

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Speaker 1: I came in? He was the closest person to my age.

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Speaker 4: He's the only person I really could feel like I

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Speaker 4: reason for my success. So you know, he he is

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Speaker 4: that guy. Did he stay on you? He did that?

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Speaker 6: Saint Joe's team was my favorite him Delonte West.

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Speaker 1: Did you stay Did you stay on you? Negatively or positively?

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Speaker 1: I'm a negative guy.

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00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 4: He stayed on me, but I was always working, so

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Speaker 4: it wasn't too much he had to do.

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Speaker 1: Because I called him, I said, what's something? He said, no,

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Speaker 1: my fucker heart, all right, thank you, that's all I

886
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Speaker 1: Why do you think why you? And I went back

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Speaker 1: and realized why.

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Speaker 4: I think Kobe was saying that I was soft because

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Speaker 4: of what you was talking about. The same ship. Not

890
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 4: giving a fuck, That's what he was trying to say.

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Speaker 4: But I think people took it.

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Speaker 6: Kobe really didn't give a fuck.

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00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, but people took it. Yeah, I know he'd give

894
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Speaker 4: a fuck. We rolled on the play a private play

895
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Speaker 4: together with our families.

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Speaker 1: Say he didn't speak. I'm like, damn.

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Speaker 5: Nigga all time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what We're in the same place.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, Bro, were on the same plane. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but did Yoe win a game? Lose a game?

904
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Speaker 4: We came back to second half of the season and

905
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, he's talking about that flight.

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Speaker 6: KG, Kareem Shack. Why did you pick those three for

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Speaker 1: Meg started fighting and that was KG.

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Speaker 4: KG was one of my you know, my first favorite

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Speaker 4: players all time. I started out when I first started

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Speaker 4: a lot of Magic Johnson tapes. I didn't have a

962
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: basketball goal anything. When I was young, I was a guard.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, show me some footage you weren't.

964
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: You know, some footage the small school in Georgia too,

965
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Speaker 4: in Georgia, you were like, you were like Texas.

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00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, you weren't. No, MoU didn't play guard.

967
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: Yes, I did all the way up until I got

968
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Speaker 4: into twelfth.

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00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: Need some footage, I understand what we didn't have videos. Well,

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00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: guess what, I don't believe that SoC one hundred. Then

971
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Speaker 1: guess what I believe that Adam don't.

972
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Speaker 5: We don't have film he scored one hundred. I believe

973
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Speaker 5: it happened.

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Speaker 1: We don't have field, right, so we hold on, Dwight.

975
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Speaker 6: Were you saying you reguard because you played at a

976
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Speaker 6: really small school and you want your best player to

977
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Speaker 6: have the ball, so they let you bring up I always.

978
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: About to call up the ball up. I was at

979
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Speaker 4: the second day.

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Speaker 6: You were a point center.

981
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Speaker 1: I was the point center.

982
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: Yes, this is funny. Went to guard camps. I went

983
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Speaker 4: to guard camps. I played guard coming up. I didn't

984
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: play center til I got in the NBA second seven too.

985
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 4: I'm sixteen, So no it's not you ain't no guard.

986
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: Show some footage. I'm not a guard now, but I

987
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 4: got I had handles when I got to the eating.

988
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: When I got to the league, they told me not

989
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: to dribble no more. You don't got no handle. Okay,

990
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: all right, okay, I know.

991
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 5: What you're doing it check are you motivating?

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00:49:59,640 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: Right?

993
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: He almost got He almost got be.

994
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: Doing dribbling exercises in the driveway.

995
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: I seen you across one dude up in Charlotte. That

996
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: made me say, okay, maybe he got some mess.

997
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: You ain't got no in and out dunk in and

998
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: out crossed dunk on two people.

999
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: You ain't had that. I had that.

1000
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Speaker 4: You ain't had that against guys who didn't dribble, who

1001
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: didn't have Who was you playing against.

1002
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: That could drip, that could play defense like that? Besides

1003
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: Hakeem You and Duncan Robinson Alonso, No, y'all did not

1004
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: play defense. That was a big motherfucker. He was big

1005
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Speaker 1: as ship.

1006
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: I used to yo, this cap message is bigger, like yo, yo,

1007
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: y'all was crazy.

1008
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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I played against him, so again,

1009
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: so again, I did the same thing him, but I

1010
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Speaker 1: actually got in trouble, so I had to cut I

1011
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Speaker 1: had to cut that program off. So you know, they

1012
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: kept saying yeah, yeah, yeah, you know me. I don't

1013
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: give a fucked by nobody. So I'm like, okay, China America.

1014
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 6: This was funny.

1015
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I never seen him play, so I tried to back

1016
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Speaker 1: to my fucking eye and he didn't move, and I

1017
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: came with that dunk and he blocked it. I'm like,

1018
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, the second move I try to come

1019
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: with the up and under. He blocked it. I'm like, God, damn,

1020
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Speaker 1: so now I gotta now, I gotta, I gotta turn

1021
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: it till me blocking again. Then when I got that

1022
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Speaker 1: elbow to that grill and duncans as, I said, Okay,

1023
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: you're human, But that motherfucker was so big and strong.

1024
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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, So I got a question, how

1025
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: do you know the attitude?

1026
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: Are you talking about? This attitude is I don't give

1027
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: a fuck.

1028
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: Attitude like that has been a problem for me, and

1029
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 4: you've mastered that attitude. How did you get that attitude?

1030
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 4: Because for me, I grew up with survivors remorse. Coming

1031
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: in at eighteen into the NBA, everybody got their hand out.

1032
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: Everybody wants something. I want to help everybody. I want

1033
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Speaker 4: to save everybody do all that. It took me a while.

1034
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: I deal with it every day. But you have to

1035
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: focus on the most important factors in your life. For me,

1036
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: it's my mama, she's number one, then my kids, then

1037
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 4: my crew, then my money. I don't even get the five, six, seven,

1038
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: eight or nine ten. If it ain't in those factors,

1039
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 4: Fuck it, I don't care.

1040
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Speaker 1: You can't. You see, we live in the world. Now,

1041
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: you can't control what people say. Like if we were

1042
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Speaker 1: to fucking read our comments and respond everyone, we'd have

1043
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Speaker 1: to open up a building and occupy every floor and

1044
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: have one hundred people on the floor. Okay, you respond

1045
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: to this, you respond to that. You can't respond. So

1046
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I always talk about G fourteen classification. If you're not

1047
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Speaker 1: a basketball player, you can't talk to me about no

1048
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: fucking basketball. I won't even fucking listen to you, right, yeah, Jordan,

1049
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: get on there and say, hey man, your nigga, y'all

1050
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: motherfuckers cut that shit out. Now. I gotta listen. Anybody

1051
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: else said some ship and I listen to you motherfuckers.

1052
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: My mama, your mama call and say, y'all stop it.

1053
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: We gotta stop it. See what I'm saying. Because that's

1054
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: people that that that that care about us. My favorite

1055
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: song in the world is they don't really care about us.

1056
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: And it's true, whoever they may be, they don't give

1057
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: a fuck about us. Just like I told you in restaurant,

1058
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: I said, hey man, it's a hundred people in here.

1059
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: We could tell this my fuck up. You want to,

1060
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, it ain't gonna solve nothing. They want to

1061
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: see they know they're gonna say Dwight and them, fuck

1062
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: who was he did? One of the white boy had

1063
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: a gut like, there's gonna be some other ship that

1064
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: we don't and then guess but our most important people

1065
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: gonna be fucking very upset. I know your mama gonna

1066
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: be said, my mom gonna be like, what the fuck

1067
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: was you doing? Like and I don't want that. So

1068
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: it's something I work on every day. And it's okay

1069
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: to say no sometimes. But you know, even though we

1070
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: are sensitive, we can't be sensitive. We're not allowed to

1071
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: be sensitive. So when I when I get some ship

1072
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: that that really bothers me to say fuck it. And

1073
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: I actually I was when I was at LA because

1074
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: I was going through these things that you go through.

1075
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: They hooked me up with a sport a fucking nuclear

1076
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: psychologist because I couldn't talk to sports psychologist because I'm like,

1077
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: mother fuck, you don't know what it is down by

1078
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: one at the free throw line, Like I'm sitting here

1079
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: talking to me, you're talking about fucking breathe breathed on

1080
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: motherfucking work. And second, man, if I miss this free throw,

1081
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: we get fucking swept again.

1082
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 6: As motherfuck so you do your breathing exercises.

1083
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, that's that's what he kept telling me.

1084
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: So I get with a nuclear psychologist and he tells

1085
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: me you got to stop caring. I'm like what. And

1086
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: he made me watch a movie called The Fan. The

1087
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Fan Robert and Wesley Snipes told me to watch that

1088
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: at the Long Time Ago. Yeah yeah, And Robert de

1089
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Narrow kidnapps Westy Snipes and he says, man, west you

1090
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: get a bath. I'm not gonna harm you. You you're

1091
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: batting this average and bloom, boom bloom. How are you

1092
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: so great? And West he says, because I don't care.

1093
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: And and the guy stopped it, and I said, he said, bro,

1094
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: stop caring. He said, bro, you get he said, get

1095
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: paid whether you win or not. And I know you.

1096
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna play hard and you're gonna keep getting that

1097
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: next contract. Everybody like, just just keep playing and stop caring.

1098
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: And the day I stopped caring, sure, my shit took off.

1099
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: And then I realized that I can only care with

1100
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: people with G fourteen classification. World Chamberain, don't speak to

1101
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: me G fourteen classification. I care, but I'm gonna show you,

1102
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: mister Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem abdu Jabbar, Yeah, Shack's great, but

1103
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: they getting swept. All right, Kareem, I'm gonna show you

1104
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: so I only care about certain things. And I wanted

1105
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: you to care because I know you know I had

1106
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: that G fourteen class. I want you to care so

1107
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: much to where you say fuck shack. You did say

1108
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: fuck shack, but I wanted you to say fuck shack

1109
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: off the court and on the court. That's what I

1110
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: want to let trying to do. And once you don't

1111
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: realize if let's just say I'm the old Orlando Center

1112
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and they're bringing you or I'll have been tough for

1113
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: when you're at the crib. If we played on that

1114
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: same thing, ask Ax, I'd have been on your ass.

1115
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: You would have fucking hated me. But eventually, after the end,

1116
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: if it would have worked, you would have said thank you.

1117
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Because as much as I missed Kobe, one of my

1118
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: one of my one of my favorite days was at

1119
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: the All Star Game in Phoenix. Nobody was really doing nothing.

1120
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: It was towards my ending career. I made it and

1121
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: he kept dropping me off and it felt like the

1122
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: old days. And at the fucking end of the thing

1123
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: we both got the same MVPs. He gave the trophy,

1124
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: took me to my son, no fuck, grabbed me and

1125
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: say thank you, big fellow. You always stayed on my

1126
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: ass and I like you for that, Like that ship

1127
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: like almost fucking like brought like a fucking tearing me.

1128
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: But the fact that he took the trophy and gave

1129
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: it to little Reef. And then as I hate Big

1130
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Fellow because you know Kobe ain't he ain't emotional, so

1131
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: he's just like, hey man because I told him, I said, hey,

1132
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: gotta do that shit?

1133
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 4: Is that?

1134
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: Noah? Before I just want to say thank you man.

1135
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: You know you always stayed on me. We stayed on

1136
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: each other, and I appreciate you. I miss you and

1137
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I almost fucking cry, but I had to go. I

1138
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: was like, she was like, what's wrong with I got

1139
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: bookers in my notes? So but and again, if you

1140
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: thought I was being personal, I want to apologize to

1141
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: you and your family. But nobody understands this thing of

1142
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: ours like we do. I under stay on. I wanted

1143
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: to stay on your ass out I wanted yourself fucking

1144
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: And then dummies like Charles and them, they don't understand

1145
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: what the fuck are doing. So they try to add

1146
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: the more bullshit to oh you just mada, I ain't

1147
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with the Superman. I was mad

1148
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: at that, but I understood it because it's the same

1149
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: tactic I did. You don't think when I got to Orlando,

1150
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: Scott Scoles mo, motherfuckers had to get up out of there.

1151
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: Fuck this old REGI is my ship. You don't think

1152
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: When I got to La all them people that was

1153
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be running the team this so like, I

1154
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: understood it, but I'm like, you know what, let me

1155
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: go with it, and them they tried to fucking make

1156
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: it like, oh yeah, it had nothing to do with that.

1157
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: I was just trying to protect this thing of ours

1158
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: when they come to being down. Man. But despite all that,

1159
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: you made it to the Hall of Fame. I want

1160
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: to congratulate you, and thanks for thinking of me. And

1161
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: next time I see him, gona knock you out. That's

1162
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: what they wanted. I'm I'm sitting there smoking and he

1163
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: came with the big dude. My boy jumped up and

1164
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: I can't tell my lenk. I'm like, this thing got

1165
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: the upper hand. Mother about to steal on the like,

1166
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: oh ship there I go here, I go. But but

1167
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: but he was like, hey, and listen, my fuck had

1168
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: on a cold suit too. I had a little and

1169
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: I was like. I was like, man, we're about Tom. Like, man,

1170
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: we're about to tear this motherfucker down, he said to me. So,

1171
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, we had we had a nice talking. I

1172
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: think you were surprised at something, because I was definitely

1173
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: surprised at some of the stuff he said. The thing

1174
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: about your brother that made me feel bad. If I'd

1175
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: have known that, I probably would have tweaked a little bit.

1176
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: But I was watching you and the way he was

1177
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: dunking on that it made me to assume it was hard,

1178
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: and man, you got to do the same for the

1179
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: next generation. As a young kid, Marcus Ponder, you're seeing

1180
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. Look him up.

1181
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: Woo.

1182
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: Where's he from. He's from Miami. But matter of fact,

1183
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: he played Orlando. Oh my god, he's tough. He mean

1184
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: six eleven, mean cursing people, Mama's out. I'm on his ass.

1185
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: It does, and that's everything with life, man, It's always

1186
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: communication and having to understanding. People hate what they don't understand.

1187
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: And you know, I couldn't understand why me and Shaq

1188
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: were having his problems. So I hated it, you know,

1189
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 4: I hated the fact that we had this beef. This

1190
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: is somebody that I grew up watching respect as a

1191
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: big man. But I'm not thinking that because that's just

1192
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: not how I grew up. I grew up. I came

1193
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 4: out of a situation. My mom lost seven kids, so

1194
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: all I knew was prayer in love. When I came

1195
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 4: out my mom lost seven they thought I was going

1196
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 4: to die. So everybody was just, man, you gotta love

1197
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: his mama. Pray, pray, pray that he get here. So

1198
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: when I got to the NBA, it was a wide

1199
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: rude awakening for me. Hey, the world don't give a fuck,

1200
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 4: and that's still hard because I'm like, damn, I'm used

1201
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 4: to the world giving a fuck. I'm used to love.

1202
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: This is me, this is me all day. I love everybody.

1203
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: But then that shit took so much out of me,

1204
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: and it's like, shoot, we're gonna make you cold. I'm like, no,

1205
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 4: you're not gonna make me cold. But I gotta not

1206
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: give a fuck but still be Dwight Howard. So you know,

1207
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. You know, I will never take it,

1208
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: and I can respect, and I have an understanding, but

1209
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: I should have listened without my emotions and my feelings,

1210
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: and I should have not allowed the outside noise other teammates,

1211
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 4: other people who may have wanted to see us fight

1212
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: get into the way. So it is an honor that

1213
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: to have you, Kevin Gardner and Kareem. I mean I

1214
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 4: wanted a Keem. I'm sorry people said Kareem, but it's

1215
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: a Keen and I say, y'all three. It's because y'all's

1216
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: the three I watched, you know, the the dominant, the

1217
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: stuff that you did as far as dunking on everybody,

1218
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: the off the court business, and any time I talked

1219
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: to anyone about how I want my transition to be

1220
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 4: as a basketball player, you're the person that I name

1221
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 4: because you have successfully done whatever it is that you

1222
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: want to do. And we have the same similar personality.

1223
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 4: We big characters and stuff like that. So it's like

1224
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: it's only right you know that I understand and and

1225
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 4: take what he's doing and try to expand it, you know,

1226
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 4: as much as possible. And with Haquem m yeah, Keem.

1227
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: I played in Houston with him, we.

1228
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 4: Worked out together, and uh, you know, he's always been

1229
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: there for me. So it would be a great honor

1230
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: to have you guys just walk me into the Hall

1231
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 4: of Fame. Because every time I played on the court,

1232
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: I didn't play thinking about the people that I was

1233
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: looking at. It was always the ones that was in

1234
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: the in the raptors, the people that already got the

1235
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 4: horse jackets. So when I'm playing, I'm thinking I'm matching

1236
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: up with these guys. So to have you guys walk

1237
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: me in is the best honor I could have in

1238
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: my life.

1239
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of so called imaginary students. Only

1240
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: one I wasn't able to crack was Donovan Mitell because

1241
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: because he kind of did something that's never been done.

1242
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: I told him Madam was at the interview. I say, man,

1243
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: I think you're a great player. I don't think it's

1244
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: that great. Motherfucker said okay. He said okay, and that

1245
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker been balling. I don't know what it was, but

1246
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he just didn't care, or like

1247
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: if he took it, but that I felt like, and

1248
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I was four or five years ago. And then same

1249
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: thing with Joker. Let's say, hey, Joker, you're doing good

1250
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: this shit. But I think Shaye Shae should have got

1251
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: the MVP because I want him to be so mad.

1252
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: He yeah, that's what I'm like, Like, I wanted him

1253
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: to be so like. I wanted him to be mad.

1254
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: I wanted his brothers to be mad, like because you

1255
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: got what I'm saying. I know what I'm doing and

1256
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: the reason why I know I'm doing because it was

1257
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: done to me. When I see similar motherfuckering like all

1258
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: it takes me to like, look at what Like I

1259
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: didn't know you, But the way he used to dunk

1260
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: that motherfucker he hard. Yeah, he goopy and all that

1261
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: ship on the court, that's cool, but you see how

1262
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: he just dunk on that motherfucker from Detroit. He hard.

1263
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: Watched this joker motherfucker pushing him and he run and

1264
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: push him back. He hard, like only only only fucking

1265
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: certain people that I like, Like if I don't talk

1266
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: about you, The reason why he's the fuck with Javel mcgie.

1267
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: I love Javel mcgi. He's a that motherfucker so athletic,

1268
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: but he was, Oh my gosh, he's too bad letic,

1269
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: but he was like he was he was having so

1270
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: much fun that he didn't know how to tune it in.

1271
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, like, you know what the other thing is too,

1272
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 6: is I feel bad for the guys that start their

1273
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 6: careers in places like Washington and Charlotte, Like the only

1274
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 6: time we see you is when something crazy happens, you

1275
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Like Lakers are on all the time,

1276
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,320
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Speaker 6: You guys are part of a select group of people

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Speaker 6: that have been the big and have played with Lebron

1330
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Speaker 6: and Kobe, and you brought up to fourteen classification.

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Speaker 1: I do not have that.

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Speaker 6: How would you explain to someone like me what those

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 6: two worlds are like, because I'm sure they're very different worlds.

1334
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Speaker 4: You want to go first, well, Kobe is okay, you

1335
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 4: got Yin and Yan just like me and Shack, I'm nice,

1336
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 4: Shack mean as fuck. It's the same thing. Kobe mean

1337
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: as fuck. Lebrun he nice as ship. He gonna give

1338
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 4: you everything. But it's just it's just Kobe is just

1339
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: he's so focused in locked then, like you know, it's

1340
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: a different type of attitude when he come into the room,

1341
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: locker room. Lebron, he gonna give you everything. But it's

1342
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: the same with me, Like it's everything is fun.

1343
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 6: But faith in them is equal, Like like your faith

1344
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 6: in them as being the guy is still equal.

1345
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Speaker 5: Like even though it's so different, what are the similarities.

1346
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 4: Lebron Lebron is it's a level. It's a I don't

1347
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: but they Lebron is a killer. But then you got Kobe.

1348
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 4: He's a he's a mercenary. He's an assassinate assassin. Like

1349
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: he's taking it to a whole nother level of killing.

1350
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, he was one of the guys that went

1351
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: to go get Osama bin lat.

1352
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Speaker 1: One of the Sealed Team six.

1353
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: Lebron is he right outside, he's the Knicks.

1354
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: Somebody said this a long time ago. Usually listen to

1355
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: what they say is it's Magic and Mike, same mystique.

1356
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: Both great players. But like you said, Dwight Magic and Mike,

1357
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna score twenty straight points to just make sure

1358
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: that that we it's different, but both great players. And

1359
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: my thing is, when you start talking about the Gold,

1360
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: I just want all the names mentioned and you got

1361
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: to start adding Steph Curry there. Now, that's all Like

1362
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm jealous, and I'm sure Dwaite feels the same way.

1363
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. My name is not in that goat Grays

1364
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: of all time. It is what it is. It doesn't matter.

1365
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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna start talking about these people, yes

1366
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: it's Jordan, Yes it's Lebron, but you can't forget Kobe

1367
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: and you can't forget Stephanie. That's all I'm saying.

1368
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Speaker 4: You know what, I will say, Sack, and I really

1369
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 4: what you got. I got to there that as it is.

1370
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 4: But I will say when I was in the eleventh grade,

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Speaker 4: we watched I was watching you in Columbus, Georgia.

1372
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Speaker 1: We played, you know.

1373
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Speaker 4: We was out at a leadership camp and I was

1374
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 4: watching you play. And for me, I would tell people

1375
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: that I feel like you were supposed to be the

1376
01:09:54,840 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 4: goat like of all time, And for me, I was

1377
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 4: just like from the outside looking in, and what everybody

1378
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 4: was saying was like he mustle didn't work hard enough,

1379
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: And that's how everyone tried to make it seem like.

1380
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: But then when I start playing, you said you didn't

1381
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: work hard enough. No I didn't. Do you feel like

1382
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: if you would have, you would have been better? No? No,

1383
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: but let me explain. That's their standards. I don't go

1384
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Speaker 1: by their standards. I go by my standards. I know

1385
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: you practice free dose. They told me, Hey, a man,

1386
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Speaker 1: he was check. He like you, your motherfucker practice every

1387
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: day just in the game. They wouldn't go in. I

1388
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: know you practice. I know you got a court in

1389
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: your house. I got to say, listen in my house, motherfucker.

1390
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Speaker 1: I'm dirt the whiskey. When I get in the game

1391
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Speaker 1: for some random ship, dirt dirt, dirt. So and then again,

1392
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Speaker 1: you know you can only train two, three four hours

1393
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: a day. But when they want to control you, oh, here, motherfucker,

1394
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: he doing movies. He should be practicing. I did practice,

1395
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: and I practice after I do it, So I never

1396
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: listened to them. And then you know how that is

1397
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: once you start having babies the summertime and go, hey,

1398
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Speaker 1: the motherfuckers I want to hear I gotta I gotta

1399
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Speaker 1: go work out. So I always said to myself, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what worked hard. Motherfucker's beat me off. I'm

1401
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna take a month off, not do nothing, focus on

1402
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: the kids. Right now. We got a month and chill.

1403
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing a little bit, and then when

1404
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: I get to training camp, I'm gonna work my way up.

1405
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll see a lot of guys come in in shape

1406
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 1: and get it to the end of the c Yeah, exactly.

1407
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna come in out of shape, y'all gonna

1408
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: talk shit. I'm gonna get mad. By also game, I'm

1409
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna be there. I'm gonna still get mad, and then

1410
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: by the fucking playoffs, and then I'm gonna turn up.

1411
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: That worked for me. So only thing, the only thing

1412
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off about is I missed two hundred and

1413
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: fifty games. That twenty that average, let's just let's that

1414
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: was averaging thirty. Let's just say twenty five. That's another

1415
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: five thousand points. That'll put me at thirty three. I

1416
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: missed ten thousand free throws, so you give me three

1417
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: off of that to make it I missed seven thousand.

1418
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I'll be at fucking thirty four thirty six thousand points.

1419
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: That's what I am pissed off about. Other thing else. Remember,

1420
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: they gonna say what they want. I got four rings

1421
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Speaker 1: and I ain't shit. It's just what it is with us.

1422
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: Nobody rouse ful alive. But guess what, I don't give

1423
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: a fuck. I do not care. I did it my way,

1424
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: you did it your way. You're in the hall of fame,

1425
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: all my hall of fame. That's all that matters. I

1426
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: tried to get under your stand because I know you

1427
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: knew that we're in the same thing, and I knew

1428
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: you were looking at me because you said that. I

1429
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: was like, okay, since you're looking at me, let me

1430
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: motherfucker jump on his ead. And again, if I was

1431
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: there and you was the new puppy coming there, I'd

1432
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: have been on your ass. I promise you would have

1433
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: fucking hated me so much. But guess what yours that

1434
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: have had thirty five nineteen, you would have had thirty

1435
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: five nineteen. They've been like you and shack fighting it. Yeah, yeah,

1436
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: we fucking found practice to day. But guess what we

1437
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: going to the finals again, said tell mama, all I love,

1438
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: what tell Papa I love. I know they were frustrated

1439
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: with me, but in this thing of ours, I was

1440
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: just doing it to try to get you to that

1441
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: next level. Man it make get that old week dog

1442
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: out of here. What is that? It's a mallea.

1443
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 10: You know these dogs, they doing them up crazy.

1444
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: I had twenty one of these days. What's his name? Shaq?

1445
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: Her name is Sunday. Sunday. Her name is Sunday.

1446
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: Is actually crazy because my sister's dog, her first dog,

1447
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 4: she named is Shaq. And then my dad, my dad

1448
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 4: had a dog named Shaq and Kobe. And then I

1449
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: was a little puppy named Da White. He had a

1450
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 4: cow name Lebro. I said, Bro, you tripped popas.

1451
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: So so you look at the game right now, what

1452
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: do you think is missing with the big men.

1453
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: It's no, it's no like like how you were saying.

1454
01:13:54,479 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: It's no like tough like. I look at emb I

1455
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: feel like and Bee's supposed to put everybody in the

1456
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 4: basket every time until they stop him.

1457
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: Every time. I don't see nobody beating him. I just don't.

1458
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 4: I just think it needs some more like aggression from

1459
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 4: the bigs, like from the big from the big guys.

1460
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: But again the fans want to see more up and

1461
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: down entertainment and shooting, so that that mess the game up.

1462
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: You know what I like about Joker though, he shuts

1463
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 1: both sides up. Yeah, Like I'll say, go in the post.

1464
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: Mother got him in the post, and then he'll step

1465
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: out and three yeah, and he putting up big numbers.

1466
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: He's he's he's like the new he like the new age.

1467
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: Sont him. I don't know this year last year. Last

1468
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: year I thought it was shy. Just by.

1469
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 6: I have an official vote and so this will get

1470
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 6: picked up. I voted for Shap, I voted for s

1471
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 6: g A. And the reason is is winning the West

1472
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 6: by that many games and being the guy that's dropping

1473
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: twenty five and thirty every single night has to mean something.

1474
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 5: But you could you could go, You could go. Your

1475
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1476
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 5: are you going to the Gate Show?

1477
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: Basically the last three years.

1478
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 6: If I could vote for co m VPS, I would have,

1479
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Speaker 6: But you can't. You have to hold that they get

1480
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 6: the same amount of first round picks, like Shaq should

1481
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 6: have got Shack should have gotten one. When Nash got

1482
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 6: won like that could that would have been a great

1483
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 6: co m VPN won not won MVP. I was trying

1484
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 6: to be respectful, but no way, no way.

1485
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: And when Kobe won, Nash wasn't supposed to. Who is

1486
01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: I think?

1487
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 6: I think, what's incredible about your what's incredible about Yokichiz?

1488
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 6: We could have if you look at this had five

1489
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 6: in a row for him and b gets one and

1490
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 6: let's say Shay gets one and every single year the

1491
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 6: issue was he played better than the year before. So

1492
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 6: like this year he is top five in points, rebounds, assists, steals,

1493
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 6: like YOA what right, Yes.

1494
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: He's top three?

1495
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 4: Yeah so then so then I think if he's top

1496
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: three and I wanted, say to win all year, but

1497
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 4: now at the end of the season, looking at looking

1498
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 4: at him getting what he got like it's making it.

1499
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: It's the decision.

1500
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: It is difficult because his numbers are better than they

1501
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 4: were last year. For one, two, he's dominating in more

1502
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 4: ways this year than he was last year. He looked

1503
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 4: like he's in better shake.

1504
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 6: The hard thing and Shack always talks about this with

1505
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 6: MVP is sometimes I think guys, guys with worst teammates

1506
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 6: have an advantage, Like Oklahoma City is so good and

1507
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 6: so deep that it's like kind of easier for Shay sometimes.

1508
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 6: But like we can also admit that this Nuggets team

1509
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 6: compared to when they made a run, is.

1510
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 5: Not good compared to what it was.

1511
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 6: Like he doesn't have KCP, he doesn't have all these players,

1512
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 6: he doesn't have Jeff Green, so he has to do

1513
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 6: so much more so the stats look better.

1514
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 5: But like he's the best player in the world.

1515
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: Is the best player in the world right now.

1516
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 4: I think by him growing up in the era that

1517
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: he played against with us and mentally changed the way

1518
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 4: he played a game, because after the era that we

1519
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: played in left, he's dominating as nobody to even like.

1520
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 6: You said about Embeid, like Jokich will take some threes,

1521
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 6: but he'll never settle when the games on the line.

1522
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm with Joker, like I think he he's one.

1523
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 6: Look, Lebron has four Lebron has four m vps in

1524
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 6: twenty one years. Like we don't give the best player

1525
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 6: the MVP every year, It's just it doesn't happen. Papovich

1526
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 6: could have won Coach of the Year every year. He

1527
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 6: didn't get it.

1528
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: Bell.

1529
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 5: Let's say like it's we end up.

1530
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 6: Giving it to someone that exceeded expectations, and as you

1531
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 6: guys experienced his first pick in the draft, it's harder

1532
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 6: when you're seen as the guy to exceed expectations because

1533
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 6: you're the fucking guy.

1534
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: Did you feel like he was shafted for not getting

1535
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: the MVP?

1536
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: Because I know I was, yeah all the time.

1537
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 6: Which year for you, Dwight?

1538
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: The year that did d Rose one M I think

1539
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: that my numbers and everything was crazy that year, and

1540
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: just because I was a big man, it was like, NA,

1541
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 4: we're not gonna let him, We're not gonna let him win.

1542
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's trying to do it. Did you hear what?

1543
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: Did you hear what Dominic said a couple months ago?

1544
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I knew the league was tripping because

1545
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: Shock was going for the store entitle and David was

1546
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: going for scoring title. They told us to come that day.

1547
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember that. Yeah, listen, man, you've been

1548
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: going through the tame, but I always kept it up here.

1549
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: I said, okay, yeah.

1550
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 6: That year when you came in second, you averaged twenty three, fourteen.

1551
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: And twenty three.

1552
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 6: Talking about Dwight's years, twenty three, fourteen and two and

1553
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 6: a half.

1554
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: It's no way, it's no way, that's brue. But back then,

1555
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 4: nobody averaged twenty points.

1556
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean twenty eight fifteen?

1557
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 4: Man, when I tell you, I understand that, but nobody

1558
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 4: it was only like ten guys who averaged twenty back.

1559
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: Then seven points a quarter. That's three jump. I just

1560
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: dismissing free throws. I was getting a jump.

1561
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 5: I mean Derek Rose.

1562
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 6: So Dwight was averaging twenty three fourteen uh, one and

1563
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 6: a half assists, one and a half steal, two and

1564
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 6: a half blocks. Derek Rose was averaging twenty five four rebounds,

1565
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 6: eight assists, one steal.

1566
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 10: Oh my god, oh mane hey.

1567
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 5: You actually had a higher wind share we wanted, didn't.

1568
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: We win Defensive Player of the Year wind Yes.

1569
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 4: So the only reason he won is because he said

1570
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 4: I think I can win bet the MVP, and they

1571
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 4: wanted that storyline, and that's how he got it.

1572
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: No eight or say it on him. Yeah, but yep,

1573
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: that's how they do us. That was my you know

1574
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: what we gotta do, You know we got to do.

1575
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: We gotta eat that ship up and just get angry.

1576
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: That's all you want.

1577
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 6: To hear something crazy. So that was twenty eleven. Lebron

1578
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 6: came in third and averaged twenty seven seven and seven,

1579
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 6: and now for fourteen fourteen years later, he's averaging twenty four.

1580
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: Eight and eight.

1581
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 5: What fu crazy, Dwight. It's been a pleasure having you.

1582
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh, man, appreciate you all.

1583
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 6: Hold on, This was a long time.

1584
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: Hold on. Fucker. Hey man, Next I'm in the hooker ball.

1585
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: You walk up behind me. Your body go beato, motherfucker,

1586
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: go beat go bet my fucking produre moving. Let's go.

1587
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 4: If we to get into it, it's gonna be Hey,

1588
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 4: that's gonna be crazy. Everybody kept saying if y'all to fight, like,

1589
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: who's gonna stop you? Who's gonna stop y'all? Too big

1590
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: bastards and fighting y'all gotta chill out.

1591
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: You help me too, because I turned I was Yeah,

1592
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: I said, this man got a creak in his name.

1593
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: He couldn't even turn into that single on me. All right, boy,

1594
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: all right, man, appreciate you dog, all right, all right.

1595
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 6: Great talking to you.

1596
01:21:37,760 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: Brother. Yeah yeah, Shock out there flopping because he can't

1597
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: guard the way out his mother.

1598
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: Oh bro,