Speaker 1: News update. As the four pm trade deadline landed on
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon in Major League Baseball, all was quiet. It
Speaker 1: would seem it would be very slow moving trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Then a flurry of activity as multiple trades were reported
Speaker 1: after the deadline passed. The biggest Zack Grenky going to
Speaker 1: the Houston Astros, a big move there for Houston trying
Speaker 1: to shore up their rotation the deadline, de Braves were busy.
Speaker 1: They brought in Shane Green and Mark Valansen to help
Speaker 1: fortify their bullpen to come down to Detroit Tiger slunger
Speaker 1: Nick Costiano's to a crowded outfield. And while the San
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants did not trade Madison bump Garner, they did
Speaker 1: send Drew Promerance to Milwaukee Brewers and Sam Dyson on
Speaker 1: his way to the Minnesota Twins. In some prospect news,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers will bring up right handed prospect Dustin May
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Speaker 1: do today, I brought Nick in studio, not only because
Speaker 1: Greg Sussman is not around. I've been wanting to get
Speaker 1: him in studio for a while now. Actually, we want
Speaker 1: to talk about players who he is mostly in on
Speaker 1: this year, players that he has multiple shares of. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what I do best. I'm gonna play a
Speaker 1: little devil's advocate, so we'll talk about the upside of
Speaker 1: these players. Will also talk about the downside of players,
Speaker 1: because I don't know that people talk about the downside enough.
Speaker 1: We kind of sprinkle it in, But I think that
Speaker 1: this is something that we also have to talk about.
Speaker 1: Uh not everyone says upside. We have to talk about
Speaker 1: the downside of these players as well. We'll do that
Speaker 1: for the rest of this first hour. In the second hour,
Speaker 1: we will have the Action hour, where we will get
Speaker 1: some of uh Nick's favorite NFL future bets. We will
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Speaker 1: on an hour two to get the latest on some
Speaker 1: NFL injuries. Let's start with some of your favorite players here, Nick,
Speaker 1: I think that we kind of package all of these
Speaker 1: Green Bay packers in together, because I'm looking down at
Speaker 1: this list. We have three packers, Devantae Adams, Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: and Mark haz Valdis Scanling. Let's target start at the top.
Speaker 1: I am someone who is also in on Davanta Adams.
Speaker 1: I've talked to e Y into moving him up his
Speaker 1: rankings as well. I have him as my wide receiver
Speaker 1: one overall, not a wide receiver one of him as
Speaker 1: the wide receiver one. I know that DeAndre Hopkins is
Speaker 1: awesome pound for pound, might be the best talent in
Speaker 1: the NFL, But when I look at the package of
Speaker 1: what Devanta Adams has to offer, between his red zone usage,
Speaker 1: the amount of touchdowns he scored over the past three seasons,
Speaker 1: he's also led the NFL and red zone targets over
Speaker 1: the past three seasons. The fact that he has one
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks of all time throwing him the
Speaker 1: football and he was basically throwing it on one leg
Speaker 1: last year. All of those things together kind of culminating
Speaker 1: have Davantae Adams as my wide receiver one. So probably
Speaker 1: in a similar camp as you. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that three Green Bay Packers on
Speaker 1: this list. It's perfectly fine. It's a great offense to
Speaker 1: be a part of. Yeah, I think when you're going
Speaker 1: with tiebreakers, look at the quarterback, look at the offense
Speaker 1: that they're on. Who's going to score the most points?
Speaker 1: And when you look at this Green Bay team, um,
Speaker 1: by all intents and purposes, Aaron Rodgers had a bit
Speaker 1: of a down year. Right, you look at the the
Speaker 1: end of the season results twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions,
Speaker 1: great statistics, but he is a quarterback built to score
Speaker 1: at thirty five to forty touchdowns. Dante Adams, like you said,
Speaker 1: has been you know, top five, top three in terms
Speaker 1: of red zone looks year in and year out. Now,
Speaker 1: volatility is something that comes along with wide receiver touchdowns. Right,
Speaker 1: It's very hard to predict, but absolutely when you're in
Speaker 1: uh AN offense like this with Aaron Rodgers, who is
Speaker 1: you know, if you owned him last year, you were
Speaker 1: obviously not disappointed. He was so consistent week over week.
Speaker 1: What the crazy part is he was receiving you know,
Speaker 1: ten twelve, fifteen targets a game, and Aaron Rodgers kept
Speaker 1: publicly coming out and saying, we need to get him
Speaker 1: the ball more. We need to get him the ball more. So,
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those fuel things along with the statistics.
Speaker 1: And I have him right now on my big board
Speaker 1: as one oh five overall. As soon as those top
Speaker 1: four guys, the top four running backs are off the board,
Speaker 1: it's it's Davante Adams there, and I just think there's
Speaker 1: no risk there when you look at the beginning of
Speaker 1: your drafts, rounds one to three, four. You want to
Speaker 1: minimize risks, right, you want to make sure that seventy
Speaker 1: of your fantasy points that are gonna be scored week
Speaker 1: over week over week are actually being scored. And Davante
Speaker 1: Adams a guy you can trust because you know, looking
Speaker 1: at Aaron Rodgers that he's good for a minimum thirty
Speaker 1: touchdowns and Davante Adams head thirteen last year. Right, so
Speaker 1: you take the twenty five that Aaron Rodgers three, that's
Speaker 1: he's gonna be looking at Davant Dams every time that
Speaker 1: they're down there. And Rogers had a career low like
Speaker 1: touchdown rate in terms of point two touchdown rate last year.
Speaker 1: He hasn't touched that since I think maybe his rookie
Speaker 1: year or something. You might have the fact it was
Speaker 1: by far the lowest of his career. Okay, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you you know, you think that jumps back up to
Speaker 1: a career average maybe around six percent, six point five percent.
Speaker 1: That would have brought his touch down total from twenty
Speaker 1: five to thirty seven touchdown passes last year. And who
Speaker 1: is going to benefit from that? Like I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's very hard to predict record breaking seasons coming from
Speaker 1: receivers because they're always outliers. But I really think we're
Speaker 1: going to see something like d eight targets, hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty receptions, and seventeen to eighteen receiving touchdowns from Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: So right after those big four running backs are off
Speaker 1: the board, Davante Adams is here to, you know, establish
Speaker 1: himself as the wide receiver, one the takes the t
Speaker 1: A E K s. That's what we like here on
Speaker 1: the BFS from Nick throwing some hot takes out there.
Speaker 1: I mentioned I'm gonna play some devil's advocate. It's really
Speaker 1: hard because I love Davantae Adams, but I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: this your way. E y, what if anything can be
Speaker 1: the downside to Davante Adams. I'll throw a few things
Speaker 1: your way and you let me know what you think.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been in and out of the line
Speaker 1: up the past couple of years. He played last year
Speaker 1: basically on one leg, but he's missed time due to
Speaker 1: like collar bone. I feel like he might have had
Speaker 1: a concussion at some point because he does take off
Speaker 1: and run a little bit and he's prone to injuries.
Speaker 1: I'll throw that out there. Plus another name on this
Speaker 1: list that will get to Marquez, Velda Scantling in Geronimo Allison.
Speaker 1: Everybody's hyping these two wide receivers up now. If they
Speaker 1: do more in the past game, that could potentially take
Speaker 1: away from Davantae Adams. Now I love Davante Adams, but
Speaker 1: that is me playing Devil's advocate, preaching the downside. Y
Speaker 1: are any of those things legitimate to you as reasons
Speaker 1: why you would pass on Davante Adams. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think downside. Like you said you had talked me into him.
Speaker 1: I moved up piece of my wide receiver three, just
Speaker 1: behind Hopkins and Julio. So Adams is a student. And
Speaker 1: I remember reading a thing saying, uh that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: said that he watched a bunch of film back and
Speaker 1: said there was a bunch of times where Davanta Adams
Speaker 1: was completely open and he didn't throw them the ball.
Speaker 1: Um Having Allison there, uh in the slot and Scantling
Speaker 1: on the outside in the end, I think only helps Adams.
Speaker 1: Adams is going to be the undisputed one, and let's
Speaker 1: not forget like, Okay, Yes, Aaron Rodgers has been hurt before.
Speaker 1: Football is a full contact sport. Every year, I feel
Speaker 1: like the NFL works on having the quarterbacks less and
Speaker 1: less hit and less and less injured, because they are
Speaker 1: the stars of of what makes an offense go. He
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable quarterback on one leg last year. Uh.
Speaker 1: Having a new coach in a new system, I believe
Speaker 1: will only benefit him. And he's going to make it
Speaker 1: a point to be a better player, to show everyone
Speaker 1: that he was right in McCarthy was wrong as a
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. UM. I always leaned towards the
Speaker 1: mental side of things like that. Like these players, all
Speaker 1: of them are freak athletes, all of them are good athletes,
Speaker 1: all of them are great football players. But what separates
Speaker 1: people is sometimes motivation and mental stimulus and and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgen Aaron Rodgers has a check mark and all of
Speaker 1: those things. Vonde Adams is a stud and I'm not
Speaker 1: going away from him. Yeah. I mean, even going back
Speaker 1: to Torty Nelson as the wide receiver one of this
Speaker 1: Packers offense, we saw massive seasons out of Torty Nelson
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, this is a legitimate thing that
Speaker 1: you can hang your hat on. Is the number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver the Packers offense. If you have Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: trust you are going to put up monster fantasy numbers.
Speaker 1: So play a little bit of Devil's advocate there. There
Speaker 1: is downside to any player, and I will mention that
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams has had concussion issues. E y. I remember
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when Davanta Adams got absolutely
Speaker 1: crushed on Thursday Night Football on that and that hit
Speaker 1: over the middle. I came in the next day and
Speaker 1: I was throwing things at you. You were throwing things
Speaker 1: at me, and we were getting crazy about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't really forget it. Davanta Adams has had concussion issues.
Speaker 1: He's taken some big hits. You have to take that
Speaker 1: into consideration. Every player has a downside in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very violent sport. We realized that.
Speaker 1: But if he and Aaron Rodgers stay healthy, even in
Speaker 1: a new Matt La floor offense, I don't really see
Speaker 1: how it can fail. So I am very excited about
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams. He is my wide receiver. One I've mentioned
Speaker 1: mvs and I've mentioned Geronimo Allison. To me, this is
Speaker 1: one of the harder ones to pick apart here because
Speaker 1: I want to be excited for both players. But as
Speaker 1: much as I like Davanta Adams, there's only one football.
Speaker 1: There's only so many targets to go around. For me,
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at this, it's MVS on the outside.
Speaker 1: Is Jeronimo Allison in the slot? MVS to me is
Speaker 1: a freak athlete. This guy is six ft four four
Speaker 1: point three seven forty yard dash that tested in the
Speaker 1: nineties six percentile according to Player Profiler. The speed score
Speaker 1: is legitimate. The only thing that I'll say is I
Speaker 1: think Jeronimo Allison has more of Aaron Rodgers. Trust. I
Speaker 1: think we saw that a little bit last year where
Speaker 1: there was a stretch that MVS was fantasy relevant. He
Speaker 1: was Fantasy viable, but then he kind of faded and
Speaker 1: it seemed like Aaron Rodgers wasn't really targeting him as
Speaker 1: much in the offense. And then on the other side,
Speaker 1: for Jeronomo Allison, he's playing in the slot now, and
Speaker 1: we've seen slot receivers for fantasy. Nick, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just been gold. So I'll throw it your away. You
Speaker 1: have MVS on this list, you're very excited about him.
Speaker 1: I want to be excited about him, but it's like
Speaker 1: the freak athlete on the outside versus the slot receiver
Speaker 1: who might have Aaron Rodgers trust. And that's why I
Speaker 1: keep going back and forth on these two. What do
Speaker 1: you have on MVS? Yeah, I'm I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: of MBS and for a lot of the reasons that
Speaker 1: you pointed out, I love the Athletic Pro file and
Speaker 1: I don't I try not to read into beat reporters
Speaker 1: and a lot of the hype that coming out of
Speaker 1: training camp when you start hearing it over and over
Speaker 1: and over again from the quarterback, from the coach, from
Speaker 1: the GM, from Beat reporters, MVS is the guy. MVS
Speaker 1: is the number two, you know, in a in a
Speaker 1: physical standpoint like him being the number two means he'll
Speaker 1: be on the field for probably ten to more snaps
Speaker 1: than John Millison. Him being outside as opposed to the
Speaker 1: slot means that his depth of target is also going
Speaker 1: to be about double the range of Joonal Millison's is.
Speaker 1: And like you said, like he came on the field
Speaker 1: and once John John Mileson was banged up last year,
Speaker 1: which is a concern because John Mollison's game logs so
Speaker 1: far three years, he's he's pretty old. People who don't
Speaker 1: know this, this this is a fourth year coming into the
Speaker 1: into the league. Seven games, eleven games, five games. The
Speaker 1: guy has not shown durability. And Aaron Rodgers, you know,
Speaker 1: he might trust him, you look at his statistics from
Speaker 1: last year, but do you think he's gonna try to
Speaker 1: build chemistry with someone that he doesn't even trust staying
Speaker 1: on the field. So when I look at MBS, came in,
Speaker 1: had four games right off the rip where they were
Speaker 1: very fantasy relevant, right, and then twenty four the right
Speaker 1: he hit that rookie wall. And there were some reports
Speaker 1: that there was a riff there between MVS and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers because MBS kept running the routes that Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: was telling him to run. And yeah, exactly. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much truth there is to it, but clearly
Speaker 1: that's been that's been fixed, and Aaron Rodgers and MBS
Speaker 1: have been, um, you know, fixing up their chemistry a
Speaker 1: little bit. And when I look at who's more equipped
Speaker 1: to play outside, it's MBS by a mile, because he's
Speaker 1: a great athlete, as you pointed out four three seven,
Speaker 1: and he's got that. He's huge. He's big, four long,
Speaker 1: six four two oh five, so he's got the legitimate speed.
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers is someone who's not afraid to throw
Speaker 1: the ball deep. And Donalo Allison. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: when guys get to the end of their career, they're
Speaker 1: less athletic, so you kind of have to put them
Speaker 1: in the slot because it's naturally gonna give you more separation.
Speaker 1: You don't actually have to beat cornerbacks. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing from Allison. I know we saw
Speaker 1: a couple of years out of Randall Cob there, but
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like there was any wide receiver two
Speaker 1: that was viable to catch basses. So I think if
Speaker 1: you're gonna give Aaron Rodgers, who's one of the most
Speaker 1: accurate outside quarterbacks outside of the numbers, the free room
Speaker 1: to choose his wide receivers, you know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: MBS over Allison in my opinion. All Right, we come back,
Speaker 1: We'll get e y s thoughts on Alison versus MBS.
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Speaker 1: e Y, the Eric Young and Ey I mentioned before
Speaker 1: the break, I wanted to throw this here away. We
Speaker 1: kind of talked about this during the Packers preview. It's
Speaker 1: like Geronimo Allison versus NVS. You heard Nick spitting some
Speaker 1: hot fire over there regarding mvs. Where do you land
Speaker 1: on this? And have you have you been flip flopping?
Speaker 1: Have you? Have you just I believe you were on
Speaker 1: Allison before. I could be wrong about that. Where do
Speaker 1: you stand now? I had them back to back and
Speaker 1: and actually Allison was ahead, But now I've got Scantling
Speaker 1: ahead of him and Allison about three picks behind him. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that would sway me is
Speaker 1: maybe in a PPR. But the hard thing that the
Speaker 1: thing is this is a different coaching staff, a different
Speaker 1: different offense is going to be run. We don't know
Speaker 1: how many times there's going to be three wide receivers
Speaker 1: on the field. Um, Like Nick was saying, Scandling is
Speaker 1: being said to be the number or two when their
Speaker 1: offense is on the field. He's going to be on
Speaker 1: the field and Allison will come in and out as
Speaker 1: there's as there's three wide receivers set. So I think
Speaker 1: that they will probably alternate some. That's not a hard
Speaker 1: and fast rule, but I think Scaling is going to
Speaker 1: have more opportunity. I think is his depth of target
Speaker 1: will be farther, and I think you'll probably score more touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So I mean, just to me, the opportunity they're playing
Speaker 1: with Rogers. I got scaling ahead of him. But Allison
Speaker 1: is a player that I really like. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna catch a ton of balls this year. All Right,
Speaker 1: screw it, we're all on MVS over Geronimo Allison. Let's
Speaker 1: go with it. The the athletic freak on the outside
Speaker 1: six ft four four three seven forty. You've talked me
Speaker 1: into it. The reason why I ask you one of
Speaker 1: the other is because what I've seen in a lot
Speaker 1: of drafts, and you probably have as well. As soon
Speaker 1: as someone takes one of those Packers receivers, the other
Speaker 1: one goes off the board immediately, it's like it's almost
Speaker 1: a light bulb in someone's head that said, oh crap,
Speaker 1: the Packers receivers. I just saw one of them. Go
Speaker 1: let me grab the other one. So it's it's basically
Speaker 1: impossible to get both of them unless you're on the
Speaker 1: turn like the seven eight turn or like eight nine
Speaker 1: turn for example. Yeah. I actually stacked Davante Adams with
Speaker 1: MVS in are you in the scott Fish Bowl. Yes,
Speaker 1: I took Davanta Adams and pick eleven. I got him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got really lucky. You got him at like sixteen
Speaker 1: after getting Kelsey in the first. So yeah, Adam, so
Speaker 1: I started Adams. Yeah, okay, I like that stack too. Um.
Speaker 1: I grabbed Adams in the second and then MBS much later,
Speaker 1: which I'm fine stacking. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I prefer MVS. But I'm not going to be upset
Speaker 1: if I end up with Allison around later or something.
Speaker 1: I do see both of them starting to creep up obviously,
Speaker 1: the you know, the hype from camp, it's gonna start
Speaker 1: pushing everyone's adp up now. And I actually saw MVS
Speaker 1: go at the six twelve today in Bestball Draft and
Speaker 1: next twelve, and at that point, like, I like him,
Speaker 1: but you know, it could end up being a time
Speaker 1: share for the Wider Sheep two rolls. So it's more
Speaker 1: so the fact that you can get him so late.
Speaker 1: And we know historically that the wider Sheiver two in
Speaker 1: Green Bay produces. Do we know who it is yet? No,
Speaker 1: not literally, but everything is pointing towards MVS being that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I did a Bestball draft on Saturday and he
Speaker 1: went at seven oh seven and that was the highest
Speaker 1: I saw MVS go at the time, So six twelve
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that that's easily the highest that I've
Speaker 1: heard or or even seen him be drafted. So just
Speaker 1: take this all into account. I mean, people are really
Speaker 1: really buying in on the hype when it comes to
Speaker 1: Mark has Valdi Scantling. Another player in this Packers offense
Speaker 1: that you like a lot, Aaron Jones. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm going to lump Aaron Jones and Marlon Mack together
Speaker 1: as we've been doing on the show. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about that running back crew in the third round. A
Speaker 1: few of those maybe all of them. It probably won't
Speaker 1: be all of them, but I would imagine a few
Speaker 1: of those running backs in that third round crew harry
Speaker 1: On Johnson, Leonard four Nett, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 1: Davonte Freeman. Let's say those six running backs, I've seen
Speaker 1: them go pretty regularly in the third round. They all
Speaker 1: have a really good shot to return RB one value
Speaker 1: legitimately finished his top twelve running back. So you like
Speaker 1: both Marlon Mack and Aaron Jones, And I love Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: I basically keep going back and forth between him and
Speaker 1: carry on is like the leader of that tier downside
Speaker 1: for Aaron Jones is that he's dealt with so many
Speaker 1: mcl s, brains and tears, and he's currently sitting out
Speaker 1: with like a hamstring injury already at camp. So you
Speaker 1: have to take that into consideration. I understand it. To
Speaker 1: a new offense coming in with Matt Laflour, I think
Speaker 1: he kind of figured out last year down the stretch,
Speaker 1: like how to evaluate running back talent, at least I
Speaker 1: hope so he finally figured out to use Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that just watching any type of film,
Speaker 1: he realizes that Aaron Jones is the most talented running
Speaker 1: back in this backfield. And again, really good offense. And
Speaker 1: you know, just having Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback, it
Speaker 1: gives you so many running lanes. That's why you see
Speaker 1: the ypcs so high for Aaron Jones. So I'll just
Speaker 1: strow it your way. Aaron Jones and Marlon Mack and
Speaker 1: really just like that whole tier of running backs, Why
Speaker 1: you like those two the most out of them? Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna preface with two things. One, the Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: calf strain whatever is going on with his calf, which
Speaker 1: has been going on for four months now, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that serious since O t s that is, it's
Speaker 1: it's terrifying me. I don't know, like we're into August now,
Speaker 1: so that needs to be fixed up quickly. Um. The
Speaker 1: reason I preface with that is because I absolutely love
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. I have him inside my top ten running
Speaker 1: backs for this year. I will also preface with DeVonta Freeman,
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nett, and I believe Josh Jacobs are basically
Speaker 1: not on my draft board where you have to take them. Uh.
Speaker 1: For Net and Freeman, their injury concerns for me are enormous.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people look at the
Speaker 1: injuries that they've dealt with and just assume, oh, they're
Speaker 1: past it whatever. But we have you know, modern science,
Speaker 1: and we have um someone from right. There are some
Speaker 1: injuries that make you, um not. We can't predict the injuries,
Speaker 1: but they make you a lot more likely to suffer
Speaker 1: them again. And Davonta Freeman has dealt with so many concussions,
Speaker 1: He's dealt with lower leg injuries. For Nets, ligaments in
Speaker 1: his ankle are like tearing apart at this point, you know.
Speaker 1: So I have those guys off my draftboard Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: We're going to it another time, Um, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: Karen Johnson. I wish you didn't have to do this
Speaker 1: to me because I love all three guys. I will
Speaker 1: start with Mac. If if we're gonna assume Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: is healthy, I don't see you know, I look at
Speaker 1: Mac almost like Davanta Adams. Right right before we broke out,
Speaker 1: we were like, Boddy Adams is is a lock for
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. We didn't know that he could hit that
Speaker 1: yard receiving mark yet, right, we didn't know he was
Speaker 1: that type of player. Max scored ten touchdowns in twelve
Speaker 1: games last year, and two of those games he only
Speaker 1: played on like thirty percent of the snaps because he
Speaker 1: was coming back from injury. So you look at what
Speaker 1: he did in the sample size of basically ten games
Speaker 1: as their starter. It was a thousand yards from scrimmage
Speaker 1: and it was ten touchdowns. What is the floor for
Speaker 1: a guy like Mac as the as the running back
Speaker 1: one in this Colts offense who I project to be?
Speaker 1: You know, A lot of the argument is, oh, he
Speaker 1: only does well when they're winning, and like the Cults
Speaker 1: are going to be an incredible team this year, right,
Speaker 1: they'll probably I would project them to win probably twelve games.
Speaker 1: So yes, maybe he'll only be in when they're winning,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be the large majority of time. He
Speaker 1: was tied for seventh in the league and goal line
Speaker 1: carries last year, right, Like, how many opportunities he's gonna
Speaker 1: get on the goal line. There's no one else taking
Speaker 1: goal line opportunities. Name hind is there. Yes, he might
Speaker 1: be more of a pass catcher, but name Hinds put up.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding you know. I was gonna say how
Speaker 1: many NFL games you played in the last like two years?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like they didn't go out and
Speaker 1: sign anybody. They didn't. Number only makes their guy. And
Speaker 1: in an offense, they have an elite sensive line, they're
Speaker 1: gonna score five a ton of points. They were top
Speaker 1: five in scoring last year as well. They're probably gonna
Speaker 1: improve more continuity with the offensive line. I just don't see.
Speaker 1: Maybe you might disagree with me on the upside of
Speaker 1: Marlon mac but I can't imagine a season where his
Speaker 1: floor is not double digit touchdowns. I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: So I will take that there. Aaron Jones I love.
Speaker 1: I think people look at Aaron Jones the wrong way though.
Speaker 1: I think what we need to do is accept the
Speaker 1: fact that he's going to be in a committee, but
Speaker 1: he excited about him getting sixteen to eighteen touches and
Speaker 1: having less of an injury risk. Use him in the
Speaker 1: Camara role, you know what I mean, and give him
Speaker 1: five targets, but twelve carries, even if it's like fourteen
Speaker 1: eighteen carries or touches in general exactly, that's fine. I
Speaker 1: would love him because he'll be super efficient in this offense.
Speaker 1: Who has a great run blocking line. Right they were
Speaker 1: kind of banged up a little bit, but they're back
Speaker 1: to form here with Aaron Rodgers new offensive aunt La
Speaker 1: Flour who's coming from you know, the McVeigh, the Shannah
Speaker 1: andry like they know to get their ball to the
Speaker 1: running back in space on these pass on these passing plays.
Speaker 1: And they've already talked about that this summer. So it's
Speaker 1: like Aaron Jones, I don't want him getting twenty five
Speaker 1: carries because he's gonna be out of He's gonna be
Speaker 1: out of the game by week six. So give Dexter Williams,
Speaker 1: Jamal Wims, whoever is actually healthy at the time, you
Speaker 1: know the other seven carries inside the twenty and like,
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Aaron Jones. Carry On is another
Speaker 1: guy that I absolutely love. But I want you to
Speaker 1: jump in and tell me how you're feeling about carry On. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love carry On Johnson and I actually predicted, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that the THEO Ritic cut
Speaker 1: was going to come. I drafted THEO Ritic in in
Speaker 1: Scott's fish Bowl as well. Unfortunately he's my RB one.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want him to be my RB one, but
Speaker 1: you know, when I take a wide receiver tight end
Speaker 1: in that format, there's a tight end premium. I end
Speaker 1: up with carry On Johnson as my RB one. And
Speaker 1: at the time, THEO Ritic was still on the team,
Speaker 1: but I had the thought that there was a chance
Speaker 1: THEO Riddic could get cut. So I think that the
Speaker 1: past the receiving upside for carry On Johnson is massive.
Speaker 1: And I think last year Matt Patricia and although there
Speaker 1: is a new O C here, it is an OC
Speaker 1: that likes to run the football. I think they realized that,
Speaker 1: all right, let's not mess around with like le Garrett Blunt,
Speaker 1: C J. Anderson. We know that carry On Johnson is
Speaker 1: the most talented running back on this team. Like they
Speaker 1: traded up to get him, they're clearly going to use him.
Speaker 1: I would probably paint the same picture around carry On
Speaker 1: Johnson that it would Aaron Jones, and that I don't
Speaker 1: want him to be a workhorse running back. He's been
Speaker 1: injury prone going back to his days in college. So
Speaker 1: even if he only sees fourteen to eighteen touches per game,
Speaker 1: I also expect the Lion's offensive line to be better
Speaker 1: this season as well, that he'll be really good in
Speaker 1: those fourteen to eighteen touches. So I mean differentiating those
Speaker 1: three running backs, it's something that might win or lose
Speaker 1: you your fantasy season. But I think all three of them,
Speaker 1: between carry On Johnson, Aaron Jones, and Marlon Mack have
Speaker 1: immant you know, top twelve running back upside e y.
Speaker 1: I'm going to paint the the downside picture once again
Speaker 1: for you when it comes to all three of these guys,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get your thought your thoughts on how
Speaker 1: you ranked them overall. Marlon Mack, the thing that I
Speaker 1: worry about is the receiving. How much is he going
Speaker 1: to catch the ball out of the the backfield. A lot
Speaker 1: of people play in half point PPR full point PPR.
Speaker 1: That might limit his upside if he's not catching a
Speaker 1: ton of passes, like realistically his ceiling might be forty receptions.
Speaker 1: So I'll throw that out there as one of his downsides.
Speaker 1: And this potential Andrew Luck injury as well. Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: has had had a ton of injury concerns. He's already
Speaker 1: torn his m c L. I believe it's been twice already,
Speaker 1: so he's missed time due to that. So you have
Speaker 1: to worry about that. And then with Kerrie on Johnson,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that the Lions just suck overall, and
Speaker 1: while they want to be a running football team, they
Speaker 1: might not have that luxury. So for all those three
Speaker 1: things your way, once again, how are you? How are
Speaker 1: you ranking these three running backs? And are you excited
Speaker 1: about all three of them? Away? I am excited about
Speaker 1: all three. These are all guys that that that I like.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, um some more than others. Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: I have as my uh my running back five right
Speaker 1: behind David Johnson, and and I may move him up
Speaker 1: just because of the unknown of what the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: going to be. I fink we're all wanting it to
Speaker 1: be what everyone thinks it's going to be. We wanted
Speaker 1: to be exciting. We want him to run seventy plays
Speaker 1: the game. We want Kyler Murray to be this unbelievable player,
Speaker 1: um and um. But the truth is is nobody really
Speaker 1: knows yet, and that's that's a bit of a risk. Um.
Speaker 1: So I have Aaron Jones, then I have Karry on Johnson.
Speaker 1: It would be by next and then Marlon mack is
Speaker 1: like two picks behind him Karen Johnson. Like I said, Detroit,
Speaker 1: they may suck, they may be a terrible team, but
Speaker 1: now they've got rid of theoretic So I think that
Speaker 1: to me, is just only going to increase Karry on
Speaker 1: Johnson's catches. He's going to be the starter, um and C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson is gonna be, you know, probably there for goal line, short,
Speaker 1: short yardage situations. But I feel like Carrie on Johnson's
Speaker 1: they're going to lean on him. They're going to lean
Speaker 1: on him heavily, um, more so than he's ever been
Speaker 1: leaned on, I believe, and and that's going to produce
Speaker 1: a lot of volume if he can stay healthy. And
Speaker 1: that's the question. I love watching this guy run. He
Speaker 1: runs like a lunatic um. But the truth is is
Speaker 1: he's he doesn't have the frame to run how he runs.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a that worries me about his durability.
Speaker 1: You heard it from e Y he runs like a lunatic.
Speaker 1: Ey knows the thing or two about being a lunatic himself,
Speaker 1: so you know, I would take his word. When it
Speaker 1: comes to karry On Johnson, I currently have them ranked
Speaker 1: Harry On, Aaron Jones, and Marlon Mack. I might be
Speaker 1: overthinking like the receiving upside for Marlon Back. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this more when we get back as well,
Speaker 1: but yeah, for me, I have a carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: I have Aaron Jones and Marlon Back. Very excited about
Speaker 1: all three running backs. We threw out some of the
Speaker 1: downside to these guys, but overall they do have a
Speaker 1: ton of upside going in that round three range as well.
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Speaker 1: the next Jay. Welcome back to the BFFs. Frank Standfeld No,
Speaker 1: Greg Susman joined in studio by Nick Klano and the
Speaker 1: Eric Young. We got three minutes here before we reset
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, so I will move
Speaker 1: over Tom. Who do I want to touch on real quick?
Speaker 1: Let's go with Tyler Boyd because everything that's going on
Speaker 1: with A. J. Green here Again, we only have about
Speaker 1: two minutes left now at this point, so we'll keep
Speaker 1: it short here. We've talked a lot about Tyler Boyd
Speaker 1: and A J. Green and a J. Green you know,
Speaker 1: had surgery, kind of expected to be ready for week one.
Speaker 1: He probably won't. I'd imagine he misses at least a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the regular season. There were some
Speaker 1: stats that Scott Barrett of Pro Football Focus put out
Speaker 1: over the weekend regarding Tyler Boyd showing how he was
Speaker 1: better when A. J. Green was on the field. I
Speaker 1: would imagine that's because he attracts A J. Green attracts
Speaker 1: so much defensive attention. But those stats are little misleading
Speaker 1: because he played some of those games obviously without Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton as the quarterback and Jeff Driskell. So overall, why
Speaker 1: do you like Tyler Boyd as much as you do? One?
Speaker 1: I believe in Tyler Boyd as a as a player.
Speaker 1: Right We're seeing this mold of slot wide receivers becomes
Speaker 1: super popular in you know, particularly fantasy football. The guys
Speaker 1: that are over six foot, Adam Thealon's, the ju Juice
Speaker 1: or whatever, not necessarily explosive athletes. But that's exactly the
Speaker 1: mold that Tyler Boyd fits into. We just saw him
Speaker 1: produce and put up over a thousand yards in an
Speaker 1: anemic offense. And I don't know if this offense is
Speaker 1: going to be any better per se in terms of points,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be higher pace with the new you know,
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, new head coach, and I look at Boyd
Speaker 1: and yeah, those stats that people throw out, I feel
Speaker 1: like are kind of lazy, No disrespect to Scott bad.
Speaker 1: I didn't have actually see the numbers, but I assume
Speaker 1: it was just a straight split of games with Boyd
Speaker 1: with with without great Yeah, so that obviously doesn't take
Speaker 1: into context that Jeff Driscoll was the quarterback for about
Speaker 1: five of those games, right, So yeah, so those are
Speaker 1: those are obviously going to be skewed when you're looking
Speaker 1: at Boyd's numbers. But in those three games that he
Speaker 1: had with Andy Dalton, his target share was really really high.
Speaker 1: Was like around when you're gonna look at efficiency in
Speaker 1: terms of stats, give me the volume in a small
Speaker 1: sample size over efficiency, because you know the next game
Speaker 1: he could have went for a hundred fifty yards and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden that that four game span
Speaker 1: is much bigger. So if you're gonna tell me, with
Speaker 1: a J. Green off the field, you're going to continue
Speaker 1: to see volume. They obviously, I mean, they're around Boyd
Speaker 1: and they give him the extension over a J. Green.
Speaker 1: So I think that should tell you something about their
Speaker 1: offensive plans with Boyd this new head coach comes over
Speaker 1: from l A. Gonna use them like Cooper Cup Tyler Boyd.
Speaker 1: I'm all in, do not shy away. He is the
Speaker 1: only thing to have in this offense. E Y. You
Speaker 1: good to stick around for the start of the next hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can stick around for a little bit. Appreciate that,
Speaker 1: e Y. So when we come back, we get e
Speaker 1: y s thoughts on Tyler Boyd will touch on a
Speaker 1: few more of these players. The action hour coming up
Speaker 1: next is the BFFs here on the Fantasy Sports Network.