1 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Roki Sasaki maybe the biggest name of the free agent 2 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: picture market maybe right now coming over from Japan. He's 3 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: officially posting there is a lot of information that you 4 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: need to know. 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: One of those being that the Mets are interested. 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Of course, this is still the Mets the podcast, so 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: there has to be some sort of Mets spin on 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: everything that we do here. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a. 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Full breakdown on what exactly is going on with Roki Sasaki, 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: is posting details, what the Mets can offer, who's probably 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna sign him, how good of a picture he is. 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you like twenty minutes of Roki Sasaki content. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys are excited for this lock in. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Drop alke on the YouTube video, subscribe over there, and 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: if you're listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, we 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: do appreciate all of you. Thank you for downloading and listening. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: James Sasaki he saw the news the other night when 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: we were out that he officially posted. And it's a 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: weird feeling because for the longest time Sasaki was a 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: guy that it was very much up in the air 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: whether or not he was going to be coming over 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: this year, next year, the following year. He is one 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: of the most exciting pitching prospects. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: I guess we could call. 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Him is on Earth on Earth like. He throws one 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. He's got devastating breaking balls, his 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: splitter is unhittable. He's one of the best pitching prospects 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: we've ever seen come over from Japan, and now it's 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: officially he's gonna be coming over. 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: What were your initial thoughts, and his. 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Thoughts were kind of like you said, weird because it's 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: for Japanese players. They have so much to lose and 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: so much less to gain when they come over, either 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: before they turn twenty five or before they've spent nine 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: years in the MPBA, because you're coming over as an 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: into an amateur free agent, amateur international free agent, similar 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: to how Atani came over, where you're signing for anything 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: that the team can give you out of their international 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: bon his pool money, and then you become someone as 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: if you get brought up in the minor leagues of 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: the major leagues, where now you are under team control 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: for six years the first three or two depending on 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Super two with the league minimum, and then you go 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: to the arbitration process, and then in six years you 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: become a free agent, and you compare that to Yoshinobu 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Yamo the last year, who Susaki's been compared to, not 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: in value but the natural talent, where he signed a 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: three hundred million dollar contract, and you like, you have 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: the opportunity to have this if you're Sasaki, if you 51 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: wait two years, but instead he's fall steam ahead, putting 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: his head down and coming to Major League DA SAPs. 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: So again, first off, for me, this is kind of 54 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: a strange situation. I think we probably share that sentiment. 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's bizarre, And I think what's also weird 56 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: about this too is that there is no doubt that 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: uh Roki Osaki is incredibly talented, similar talent level as 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Yoshinobu Yamamoto. But the difference between the two guys right 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: now when they are coming over, besides the age thing 60 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and just the whole contract situation, is that Yoshinobu Yamamoto 61 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: does have a lot more innings underneath his arm. He 62 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: has a lot more experience on the mound, where a 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: guy like Roki Sasaki because of how his injuries have been, 64 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: because of how Japan handles young pitchers because of his age. 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean he's literally twenty two to twenty three years old. 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: He has never thrown more than one hundred and twenty 67 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: nine in a season, and that came back in twenty 68 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty two. This past year he threw one hundred and eleven. 69 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: The year before that ninety one. It's it's a bizarre 70 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: scenario because he is more like a prospect rather than 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: a guy who is like gonna come in and be 72 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: one of your aces, even though he is gonna be 73 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: your race. 74 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: He is I've been thinking about him a little bit 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: in terms of fancy baseball, then also a lot of 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Mess fans thinking about him in terms of this season. 77 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: He's someone who I think you hope becomes an ace, 78 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: probably not someone who would be an ace in twenty 79 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: twenty five, which is the difference of Yao Mothera, where 80 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: Ya Modi were like, he's small. I don't know exactly 81 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: what we're gonna get from him four or five six 82 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: years from now, but you're gonna have three four years 83 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: right now where he's gonna be one of the fifteen 84 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: best pitchers in baseball, and that's what you're paying for 85 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: against Asaki's not small Saki six to two. He's got 86 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: his fastball up two hundred two miles an hour. 87 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: That was two years ago. 88 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Though, like similar to you said, how it's been a 89 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: little weird, it's been spotty health wise last few years. 90 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: So I think that first maybe we should talk about 91 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: like the situations around signing him sure, and then talk 92 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: about him as a pitcher, and then we'll talk about 93 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: have the mess chances here. But again, this is really 94 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: really really weird. Teams can only offer money from the 95 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: international bonus Pool and that's what that's like, cod of 96 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: fied every single year for every single team in the league. 97 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: And that's what you used to sign players from Dominican Republic, Venezuela, 98 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: any player that's not for America who you want to 99 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: sign as an amateur. So the most any team has 100 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: when they started the year is seven point five million 101 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: dollars and that only comes from the worst teams in 102 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: the league. Because MLB does like a secret thing and 103 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 3: no one knows about where. They give the fifteen teams 104 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: the lowest revenue in the league extra draft picks and 105 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: extraternational bonus pool money every single year. It's been the 106 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: last two cbas can't believe they get away with it, 107 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: can't believe nobody knows about But that's teams like the A's, 108 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: the Marlins, the Guardians, Like these are the Tigers, the Cardinals. 109 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: For some fucking reason, the Carlins get to sneak into this. 110 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: But these teams have that so they can spend more 111 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: money and do more things in this. Get more players, 112 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 3: get more prospects, get competitive bounces called competitive bounce picks. 113 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: But if he is posted soon and he signs before 114 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 3: January fifteenth, which is when the international free agency period 115 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: turns over to the next year, teams can only sign 116 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: him from what they have saved over from last year's 117 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: international pool, So most teams have already spent it because 118 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: the international period's been opened for almost a full calendar year, 119 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: so not many teams have much money left. The only 120 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: team that really does have sign good amount of money 121 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: left is the Dodgers, the Orioles, the Yankees, the Giants, 122 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: and the Red Sox. Those are the only teams in 123 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: more than nine hundred and fifty thousand, where the Dodgers 124 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: and the Orols the only teams was over two million, 125 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: so some people might have known this could have been 126 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: happening a little bit more than others. 127 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there is still a super chance 128 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: that Sasaki does wait until twenty twenty five, the next 129 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: international signing period, to actually be posted and signed. I 130 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: think one it feels like you could help your team 131 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: out a little bit, like the contract that you signed 132 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: with them, feels like it'd be really shitty to cut 133 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: them out of a little bit of extra money, even 134 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: though they're kind of just letting you go. And we 135 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: don't know the full details of his contract. There was 136 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: so many different things coming out about how he had 137 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: a sponsorship that he signed before he came in under 138 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: the table, under the table like there was just a 139 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: lot of nonsense. Honestly, don't really care because now he's 140 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: coming to the majors and that's the only thing that 141 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: really matters. But posting takes a while. There's really no 142 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: incentive to get posted before that date for the team, 143 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: for the player, there's there's really nothing to do. He 144 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: could just come hang out in America right now if 145 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: he wants and continue to do his work. Sure will, 146 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: but it does affect the money that's available and right 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: now if he does it for twenty twenty four, the 148 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Dodgers have the most, whereas if you post for twenty 149 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: twenty five, the Dodgers do not have the most because they're, 150 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: of course one of the highest spending teams baseball. 151 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: Yes, and I think they've made some deals that took 152 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: some money out of it. I think signing players from 153 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: qualifying offers. I think some teams have made trades, including 154 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: some international balls, pull money cause you're allowed to do that. 155 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: But I'm happy you brought up his old team in 156 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: Japan because they are kind of getting fucked here, the 157 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: Chibolote Marines. When you used to be posting teams should 158 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: just be like twenty million dollars to post this guy. 159 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: That was the max. You could say, no matter how 160 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: old a person was, how long they spent in Japan, 161 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: you could be like twenty million dollars. That was the 162 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: dice Cade money. That was the Masirora Tanaka money, and 163 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: that was Otani was the last player grandfather into the 164 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: last system, even though he came over as an amateur. 165 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: His team, the nipon Hamfire's got to say you need 166 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: to pay twenty million dollars just for us to release him. 167 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: That changed in the last CBA, and I started with 168 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: basically with Giamo the last year, where now there's like 169 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: a pretty dense calculation where the team gets twenty percent 170 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: of the deal's first the Japanese team for the posting 171 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: fee twenty percent of the deal's first twenty five million dollars, 172 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: So that's five million dollars, seventeen point five percent of 173 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: the next twenty five million dollars, and fifteen percent of 174 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: all further spending. So if not if when Roki Sasaki signs, 175 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: his team will only get twenty percent of any deal 176 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: he gets. Which maximum and I don't think anyone's even 177 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: gonna get near this maximum is seven point five million 178 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: dollars from like the Detroit Tigers, So that's not gonna happen. Realistically, 179 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: this deal is going to come in somewhere between one 180 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: point five and four million dollars, and his team is 181 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: going to get chump change. Where last year the ORGS 182 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: Buffalo has got over fifty million dollars for Yoshinova Yamamo Tho, 183 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: and again a couple of years ago under the same 184 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: pretense with a different system, the npon ham Fire's got 185 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars for Shoho Tani and also. 186 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: He still gets to pick what team he wants to 187 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: play for. 188 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: So even if the Detroit Tigers come in with the 189 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: most money, or the Oakland A's or not Oakland A's, 190 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: seck just the A's Now Sacramento Athletics. Yeah, Sacramento. I 191 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: think they're technically not even Sacramento Athletics, shet. I think 192 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: it is just the Athletics. If the Athletics come in 193 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: with the most money, he can be like, yeah, I 194 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: just don't want to play there. I'm gonna go play 195 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. Which is the whole crazy part of 196 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: this is we can talk so much about who's got 197 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the most money, who's got this, who's got that. Sasaki 198 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: wants to seemingly play on the West Coast. He's talked 199 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: about openly that he wants to play for Los Angeles 200 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Dodgers very aggressively. And if not, he has connections with you, Darvis. 201 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: You Darvis worked out with him last offseason, taught him 202 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: how to throw a slider. It was a pitch that 203 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: was filthy for him. This past year, probably the Padres 204 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: that if not, like, there doesn't seem to be as 205 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: many possible takers on Sasaki as there were for some 206 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: of the other Japanese players that have come over in 207 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: the past, just because it seems like he's kind of 208 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: made his mind up. The one thing though, is that 209 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: he seems like he wants to be in a big market. 210 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: I've heard some rumors that maybe he's not as interested 211 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in being in a big market, but I still really haven't. 212 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Everything seems like it's leaning towards La or maybe even New. 213 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: York breathing into it. Does seem like he wants to 214 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: be a bit of a star. It seems like that's 215 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: part of the goal here. And also I think I 216 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: think it's some people I've seen. I've been in Japanese 217 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: baseball Twitter because I had a tweet about to Sosaki. 218 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: They got like one hundred and fifty thousand impressions of 219 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: Friday night. So I've been getting a lot of Japanese 220 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: Twitter on my feed, and some people are outraged about this, 221 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: that he's basically leaving this team. 222 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: Again. 223 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: We don't know what kind of deals happened under the table. 224 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: We don't know where agreements wherever it had between these 225 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: players and these clubs, but people are upset about this, 226 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: and people are like, he wants to go to the 227 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: bright lights of America. And I saw one Japanese Twitter 228 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: guy posting that he was so mad because that team, 229 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: the Chubbulote Marines last year would have been eleventh and 230 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: major League Baseball and attendance, and I think the Dodgers 231 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: and the Yankees were the only teams that had more 232 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: average game attendants than Yomiuri Giants, who I think are 233 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: the basically the Japanese Yankees. So Japan loves their baseball 234 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: and these games are sick. The fan bases are crazy there, 235 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: the playoffs are intense, the competition is really legit. It's probably, 236 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: I won't say probably, it's basically definitely the second best 237 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: base professional baseball league on probably compares really reasonably with 238 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: Triple A Baseball. They would probably smack the Triple A team. Yeah, 239 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: they're like four in between Triple A and the Major League. 240 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: The big difference is kind of game style and like philosity, 241 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: which is something that Sasaki has, which is why he 242 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: was so fucking disgusting when he was sitting one hundred 243 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: miles an hour. Also, something interesting about Sasaki coming over now, 244 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: coming over twenty three six years of team control, he'll 245 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: be a full on free agent at twenty nine. That's 246 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: the fucking payday. People like he's given up three of 247 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: million dollars on the table. He's also guys dealt with 248 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries in the last two years. He 249 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: can just get some millions of dollars now. If anything 250 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: horrible happens to him, it'll happen in America while he's 251 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: making Major League Baseball salary with Major League Baseball doctors, 252 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: with Major League Baseball rehab facilities. And then he still 253 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: gets to be a free agent before he turns thirty 254 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: years old. I don't say hate that plan, especially the 255 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: fact that he can come to America as soon as 256 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: he can. Seems like he just simply wants to be here. 257 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think I think he definitely wants to 258 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: be here, And I don't blame him. 259 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's watched a lot of really great Japanese 260 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: players in the last couple of years come over and 261 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: have great success. You go to Japan and apparently every 262 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: single advertisement to show heo Tani. I'm sure he's like, 263 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to beat like that. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. 264 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: He's cool. Yeah, I throw, I throw one hundred miles 265 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: an hour. I don't hit. 266 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I can't hit fifty home runs and steal fifty bases 267 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: of a season, but I'm a pretty damn good pitcher. 268 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: We saw a little bit of him in the World 269 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic too, Like the stuff is absolutely electric out of. 270 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: Him, ridiculous. But again, the stuff has pulled back in 271 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. I think that's a scary thing. 272 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: Two years ago was when he popped off in Japan, 273 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: he started getting famous. But I remember with two years 274 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: ago over was like last year. The year before this one, 275 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: we had the nineteen strikeout perfect game and through seven 276 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: no hittings after that, the fastball was sitting over one 277 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour, the splitter was darting, the slider 278 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: was eighty eight. It looked like he was like the 279 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: top pitching phenom on Earth. I think even at the time, 280 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: because it was happening again last year, he was being 281 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: compared to Paul Skeins, which I think was interesting. These 282 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: two guys sitting over one hundred with these crazy splters, 283 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: and it was like wow. But it fell back a 284 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: lot last year. It doesn't seem like a lot, but 285 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: the fastball did fall back to ninety six to ninety seven. 286 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 3: The slider and the splither also dropped. In velow Glance Prostowski, 287 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: friend of the podcast, recurring guest, he did a great, great, 288 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: amazing video breakdown on YouTube by all the rookies Zaki stuff. 289 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: He got data from the MPB and he went deep 290 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: into everything pitch shapes, and basically what he said was 291 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 3: that as the philosophy has dropped, his fastball became a 292 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: lot more susceptible because the shape was never great. If 293 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: the shape isn't great, though, and you're throwing a hundred, 294 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 3: doesn't fuck him matter you're throwing one hundred miles an hour. 295 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: But once that shape comes back in ninety six we 296 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: talked about it's a lot with Coda asanga. Then you're 297 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: a little more susceptible. You wind up in this dead 298 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: zone where the pitch kind of comes exactly as the 299 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: batter is going to expect it. He's not gonna swing 300 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: under because it doesn't have that great uprising action at 301 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: high you'd be like we talk about sometimes and they're 302 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: just gonna hit it. That kind of thing doesn't really 303 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: get hit though, as much, even in Japan because no 304 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: one has power there. I think Yaomodo, last year's last 305 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: full year in Japan, gave up two home runs the 306 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: whole year, and this year home runs were legitimate issue 307 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: for him in the Major League. Just to give a 308 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: sense of how different the hitters will approach will approach 309 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: approaching that bad Japan versus USA. But I'll know, like 310 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: just like everything with pitching we talk about in this show, 311 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm tantalized by the upside and think even maybe if 312 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: he has like arm soreness, shoulder swordness, fatigue, get the surgery, 313 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: be healthy, and then get the next five years of 314 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: free ace like pitching. 315 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: Well, here's the yeah, I was about to Here's the 316 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: other thing is that he's so free. He costs free, 317 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: no money. 318 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: If you were a team, you were getting an impact arm, 319 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: a guy who, like you said, could competit potentially be 320 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: not just one of the best pictures on your team, 321 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: but one of the best pictures in baseball because of 322 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: the potential and the growth and the age and everything 323 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: that's built into him. 324 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: For absolutely free. 325 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: That's why like a guy like Paul Skins is just 326 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: so incredibly valuable to the Pittsburgh Pirates, a small market team 327 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: who's not gonna have to pay him any money for 328 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: a couple seasons and he will simply be one of 329 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: the best pitchers in baseball. 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He would 357 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: change how this franchise's rotation looks. 358 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: Ironically, he the second he steps for the major league 359 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: soil with a contract for a team, becomes one of 360 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: the most valuable players in all of baseball. Because of 361 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: these things we're saying, we don't know exactly how great 362 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: he'll be immediately, and everything that fell off with him 363 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: last year I think is serious. He was running. You'd 364 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: like to use a stat in this podcast A lot 365 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: struck out my as walker. I think it's one the 366 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: best ways to encapsulate how good the picture is. You 367 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: take his percentage of hitlers he strikes out, the percentage 368 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: of hitterers he walks, and you subtract them from the other, 369 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: and that's you get a number. Sasaki was sitting thirty 370 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: percent in those numbers the last couple of years when 371 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: he was really good. That's literally unheard of in the 372 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: NPB because hitchs don't strike out very much. Pictures are 373 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: very careful to control. Don't walk heathers. Just as an example, Yaoamodo, 374 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: who was considered like the god of pitching there, same 375 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: with you Darvish. Both of those guys were twenty two 376 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: percent strike on minus walk rates. Sasaki was sitting thirty 377 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: two thirty three percent. Even last year when he had 378 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: his down year, he dropped a twenty one percent. The 379 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: three year average of the strike at minus walker is 380 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: twenty eight point four percent. Shoho Tani before he came 381 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: over his three or average twenty two point seven percent. 382 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Masa Hero Tanaka probably still the most successful Japanese pitcher 383 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: it's ever come over twenty one point seven. Showed it 384 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: to Imanaga twenty one point three. Dice came out to 385 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: Suzaka with the famous gyro ball nineteen point five percent, 386 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: and Kolai Sango who we saw be dominant in his 387 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: first season in the major leagues eighteen point four percent. 388 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: Yah Sasaki did things as a pitcher in Japan that 389 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: we've literally never ever seen a pitcher do over there, 390 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: And that's why this is so hot. That's why everyone's 391 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: talking about this right now. That's also why again so 392 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: fucking weird's coming over and for going a three hundred 393 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: million dollar paid day in two years. 394 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like it's crazy, but I guess because he's 395 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a free agent, like you said, before he 396 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: turns thirty. 397 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna be good. 398 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: I'll just get paid then, because like he will get 399 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: paid if he's any sort of close to what he's 400 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: comparing to and what people are projecting him to be, like, 401 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: he will get. 402 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: That pay day for sure. It's it's bizarre. 403 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know do the Mets even have a chance, Like, honestly, 404 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: do we think there's a chance. I know, David Stearns 405 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: has watched him pitch. Steve Cohen I think has been 406 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: to Japan a couple of times. Like we've seen the 407 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: pictures and the videos and all that kind of stuff 408 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: from the last couple of years, just in general, courting 409 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the Japanese free agents in general. 410 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: Is there a shot here? Because I'd love there to 411 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: be a chance for us. 412 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: I I truthfully put the ten percent, and that's like 413 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: that's taking the fanglasses off. That's like absolutely no bias. 414 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: I really think it's a ten percent, and maybe it's 415 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: ten percent for every team beside the Dodgers. That's maybe 416 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: how a phrazing dow just hadty percent. Every other team 417 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: gets like two or three percent of this. But Davis 418 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Searns did go see him live towards the end of 419 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: last year. That's a major sign of respect. I think 420 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: that we handled Yoshinobiamo situation really well. Steve Cohen wentz 421 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: to Japan, I think multiple times to talk and court 422 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: with him, and I think that that situation wanted very 423 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: positively for everyone, and we had the Kolas Sanga factor 424 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: is legitimate. Kaias Sanga did pick this place and he 425 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: was really tremendous, and Roki files him on Instagram, so 426 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: I think that's a big thing. So I'm sure Cola 427 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: will be part of this. Again, I don't think it's likely, 428 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: but there probably has to be a little bit. 429 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: And I thought this. 430 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: Would be true Andiamoo sad and it wasn't. But he 431 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: is seems to be a bit more of acquire the guy, 432 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: where Roki seems to want to be a bit more 433 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: of a star, just having seen the way he kind 434 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: of carries himself, and I'm just seeing how he wants 435 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: to kind of break this Japanese culture thing and come 436 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: to America, literally break the rules to do it. Some 437 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: probably has to be like, do I really want to 438 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: go and be the third biggest Japanese star on the Dodgers, 439 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Like not even just the third biggest star. 440 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: He'd be like the sixth biggest star. Truthfully, there's something 441 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: to it. I think there's something to it. That's also 442 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: the history of getting Japanese players as well. Yeah, if 443 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: you look in our we got Kazmatsui, we got Shinjo. 444 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Those are two of the big ones that I can remember. 445 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Like there there's definitely a history of Japanese players playing 446 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: for the New York Mets. It's if you're not gonna 447 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: play in La New York's a pretty good market. Obviously, 448 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Seattle's another one that they love to go to. 449 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: But I just don't. 450 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if any other team makes as much 451 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: sense either as the Dodgers, where it's like no, certainly not. 452 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean they could really use some cheap pitching. 453 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other part that's weird about this too, 454 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: is that if he does post a SAP and it 455 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: goes to the twenty twenty four window, the Mets have 456 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: literally not you know, because the Mets only have three 457 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars left other international bonus pool. And I 458 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: don't know, I think that you just can't really just 459 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: get players off it to do it. MLB is really 460 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: really really tight for everything above board, the international free agents, 461 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: they let you do the Wild West with things below 462 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: the board. There's like international free agents. It's kind of 463 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: like the iceberg meme, where's here's everything on top of 464 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: the iceberg. We're gonna be really careful about this stuff 465 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: and everything blow the iceberg. Oh we didn't see anything 466 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: blow the iceberg. 467 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 468 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: The fact that now these deals are already above the ice, 469 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: above the water level, you could see the iceberg. No 470 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: more funny business there. And it does make it look 471 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: really shitty that when you see how much money every 472 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: team has left, clearly the Dodgers are the team with 473 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: the most. They're clearly the team that set their money 474 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: aside waiting to do this. 475 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: It's like they knew. It's like they knew that this 476 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: was gonna. 477 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: Happen tampering, find them, kick Andrew Friedman out of the league, 478 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: get rid of them, because other people dming me a 479 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: lot like about rookie, And it was like, why old 480 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: the Mets make a deal into the table. Why did 481 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: the Steve Cohen shake his hand and be like, here 482 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: is the three hundred thousand dollars now, and then a 483 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: week from now, here's two hundred million dollars in a 484 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: ten year extension. And I'm sorry, guys, I really hate 485 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: to admit this. You just simply can't do that. They 486 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: are again every MLB lets a lot go with the 487 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: things they can't see with the international free agent period, 488 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: but everything they can't see they're really really tight with. 489 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: And there's gonna be hawk eyes on everything. The Braves 490 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: old GM John Coppoelo guy literally bands from baseball. He 491 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: just finally got redmante back this year after a six 492 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: year band, but he was caught funneling extra money to 493 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: their the Braves international free agents and draft picks for 494 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: the period of time where they acquired all the players 495 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 3: that led to their World serious championship in this new 496 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: core they have, so shout out them for that, but 497 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: JJ Cooper also want to shout. Madge did a great 498 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: article not behind the paywall Baseball America, just going through 499 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: the CEA all the exact language in there about promising 500 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: a player of extra money, promising a player to just 501 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: spot in the LB roster, because you can't even do 502 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: that techniquely you he literally signing as a minor leaguer, 503 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: as an amateur, like he will get called up of 504 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: course at the beginning of the season, but it's he's 505 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: coming into the league basically is a new minor leaguer, 506 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: which is crazy because he's one of the most electric 507 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: pitchers on planet Earth. 508 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, I'd really love him on the Mets. 509 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: It'd be so change everything. To get free pitching for 510 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: four or five six years would be amazing. Oh my god. 511 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: But it's just probably not gonna happen. 512 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: And unless some news comes out in the time from 513 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: when we stop recording this to when it publishes in 514 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: the morning, for you guys on Monday or whatever day 515 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you're listening to this, they're they're just they're not likely 516 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: to get him. 517 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: There's it's very unlikely. And then also again just for 518 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: people like we have the most money, just cheat. I 519 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 3: hear some really really really deliberately broad language in the 520 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: In the CBA, no club or player, including their designated representatives, 521 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: may enter into any understanding room of their transaction or 522 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: make any representation, whether in applied or explicit, that decides 523 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: to defeat or circumvent the provisions of the International Amateur 524 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: Talent System. Any club or their representatives that has found 525 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: you have engaged in circumvention. I like the word circumvention 526 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: or attempted circumvention. You can't even attempt circumvention will be 527 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: subject to sanctions by the Commissioner, including fines, suspensions, not 528 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: approval of the transactions or contracts, and loss of future 529 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: signing rights. They are not going to let any funny 530 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: business happen with this, which again, this fucking sucks for 531 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: the Mets because this is our advantage, just cash in 532 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: the pocket, and this is the once free agent on 533 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: earth that we can't use our cash advantage. 534 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: Fond No, it's unfortunate because boyle boy, would I love 535 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: to throw him the bag too. I mean, Yamamoto looks 536 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: like in one year he was pretty dang good. 537 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: He was. 538 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like if you could have flipped that 539 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: liv other things could have possibly flipped. 540 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, But unfortunately the money Steve Cohen's deep 541 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: deep pockets will have absolutely no effect on this. 542 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: But hey, this is a Wan Sodo podcast. We want 543 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: want soda. 544 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: This one of the pockets, and the fucking Dodger is 545 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: gonna get another one. 546 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't keep getting away with this. How do 547 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: they keep doing it? 548 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: So noise not fucking fair. It's really isn't fair because 549 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: they're just gonna add him for free to this team. 550 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean again, they might not. 551 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: They're a chance other teams to sign him, a lot 552 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: of them, especially if we get this to the next year, 553 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: where also teams probably have money commitments to. Next year 554 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: is for international period class two. Yeah, but I think 555 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: not official yet. 556 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I think for a guy like this, you just you 557 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: give it up almost for a year, and you just 558 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you take the ten K or whatever the minimum is, 559 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: and you try and fill out the rest of your 560 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: international players through that. But I think when Susaki posts 561 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: whatever the maximum amount of money is, I'm sure he 562 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: is going to get again. 563 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: Maybe, but I don't know. I think even I think 564 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be like a bait a game 565 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: where everyone's just aware what everyone else is offering because 566 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: I don't think do you think here's the other part 567 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: of this. It's so uniform. It's a difference between four 568 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 3: million and five million to the guy like Sasaki, tremendous. 569 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe for this then you do that and 570 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: you blow it out. 571 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: But it seems like similar to Othani where you got 572 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: two point three million dollars like this, Probably one's up round. 573 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: I think three of the max or the exact two 574 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: point five the Dodgers left off their books for last year. 575 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we'll find out and see you we'll 576 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: find out. Maybe in January. That would be the best 577 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: for the Mets if we find out we need that 578 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: nice little Bay president key here. 579 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, great birthday President Mark here. We let this thing 580 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: just drift out a little bit. 581 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure you guys will hear a lot 582 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: more as the off season goes on. That's all we 583 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: got for you today, little Roki Sasaki talk. Give you 584 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a breakdown in case you guys 585 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: didn't know already. And he's not coming to the Mets, 586 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, almost definitely not. Thank you for listening, Thanks 587 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: for watching. Subscribe on YouTube, Mets Up podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, 588 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Drop us a rating, drops review, download 589 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: and subscribe. You can follow James on Twitter. 590 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: At James Underscore, Shiano. 591 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: Major Raftneckmark with the C. Thank you guys for listening 592 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: and watching. We'll catch you on the next episode. 593 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: Peace Out, peace out, See you guys next time. Let's go, Mets.