1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with copper trading at a record, as 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News has learned US tariffs on copper imports could 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: be coming within weeks. That would be months earlier that expected. 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: The news comes as President Trump told Newsmax there could 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: be limited exceptions to his tariff. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: Push, not too many exceptions. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 5: Now. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to have too many exceptions. Look, we've 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 4: been ripped off for forty five years by other countries, 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: fifty years more. We always were soft and weak. It's 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 4: almost like we had people that didn't know what they 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: were doing. We were just ripped as a country like 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: nobody has ever seen before. 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: It was President Trump speaking on Newsmax. Analysts to Goldman, 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Sachs and City Group and Notes have said they expect 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: the US will impose a twenty five percent copper tariff 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: by year's end. 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, President Trump is also saying more about the 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 3: signal chat that Atlantic journalist Jeffrey Goldberg was allowed into 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: as top officials discussed plans to bomb Yemen in the 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: Newsmax interview, the President suggested a lower level stafford, a 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: national security advisor Mike Waltz, invited Goldberg into the chain. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Somehow this guy ended up on the call. Now it 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: wasn't classified, as I understand that there was no classified information. 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: There was no problem, and the attack was a tremendous success. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: President Trump says his administration is investigating how Goldberg was added, 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: but Mike Waltz says the mistake is on him. 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 6: I take responsibility. 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 7: I built the I built the group. 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: Okay, So. 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 6: But look, that's the part that we have to figure out, 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 6: and that's the part that we were embarrassing. 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Yes, National Security Advisor Mike Waltz tells Fox News he's 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: spoken with Elon Musk about the incident. Jeffrey Goldberg did 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: not reveal actual attack plans in his article about the 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: apparent breach, but did say Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: one point shared operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen. 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: Speaking of forthcoming, Karen, the US Treasury Department is the 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: latest target of Elon Musk's forthcoming do JE effort. Let's 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: get the very latest one that from Bloomberg's John Tucker, John, 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I assume we're talking about job cuts. 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 8: Yes, we are, and. 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 9: The Treasury says it's planning to lay off what it calls, quote, 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 9: a substantial number of employees. The Treasuries finalizing the plans 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 9: in response to President Trump's executive order implementing the Department 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 9: of Government Efficiency, led by billionaire Elon Musk. The Treasury 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 9: has more than one hundred thousand employees across several different viewers, 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 9: including the Internal Revenue Service. The disclosure comes from a 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 9: Treasury human resources official as part of a collection of 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 9: sworn affidavits filed in court. The Trump administration has been 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 9: required to certify to a federal judge that's complying with 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 9: a temporary restraining order. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: All right, John, thank you. Meanwhile, Republican leaders say they 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: are getting close to agreeing on a plan to pass 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: an extension of President Trump's twenty seventeen tax cuts and 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: an increase to the death ceiling. 61 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 6: The plan is to approve. 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: An economic package by the end of May, with House 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: lawmakers aiming to move even quicker before the Memorial Day weekend. 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, caeren Now we get to the latest developments in 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: the war in Ukraine. The US says Russia and Ukraine 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: have agreed to a cease fire in the Black Sea. 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: The Kremlin has confirmed the agreement but says it's conditional 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: on lifting sanctions on banks and companies involved in agricultural exports. 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Ukraine's president Vladimir Lenski says his forces will observe the 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: partial truth immediately, but in a video post on x 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: he also sounded this warning, Alik, sure if. 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 7: This agreement fails, if Russia does not fulfill the terms 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 7: of today's agreement and instead tries once again to pressure 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 7: the US, Europe and Ukraine, then I believe this should 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 7: be only response. Definitely new sanctions. 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Selenski, speaking through an interpreter on x 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: and in the Newsmax interview, President Trump conceded Russian President 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin may be delaying a full cease fire agreement. 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: I think that Russia wants to see an end to it, 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: but it could be the dragon, the feed I've done 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: it over the years. Yeah, I don't want to sign 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: a contract. I want to sort of stay in the game. 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: But maybe I don't want to do it quite I'm 84 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: not sure, but no, I think Russia would like to 85 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: see it end, and I think so Lensky would like 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: to see it end. 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: At this point, Bloomberg News has learned the Trump administration 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: is aiming to reach a full cease fire as soon 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: as April twentieth. The Ukrainian and European officials have called 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: that timeline overly ambitious. 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: We turn to the markets now, Nathan futures they're lower, 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: following three straight days of gains on Wall Street. Jim Bianco, 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: president and founder at Bianco Research, thinks the worst is over. 94 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 9: We have more. 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 10: Uncertainty now than we did during the COVID shutdown during 96 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 10: nine to eleven or during the financial crisis. Now is 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 10: more than a certain period. It isn't we're overdoing it 98 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 10: right now. So I don't understand why we're getting ourselves 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 10: all worked up that this isn't just a ten percent 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 10: correction in the stock market. But this is the end 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 10: of the American experience right now. So this is the 102 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 10: type of environment where bottoms are made in markets. 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: Jim Bianco of Bianco Research stocks that bounced back in 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: recent days as the Winehouse signaled plans to take a 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: more targeted approach to the tariffs coming next week. 106 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: We have this just crossing the Bloomberg terminal, Karen, it 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: was a good year to work on Wall Street. The 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: average annual bonus rose by almost a third in twenty 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: twenty four to almost two hundred and forty five thousand dollars. 110 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: Total payouts jumped to a record forty seven and a 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: half billion, the largest since at least nineteen eighty seven, 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: when these records began, as revenue gains from trading and 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: underwriting fueled a near doubling of Wall Street Bank profits. 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Well not a company news nathan An Apple CEO Tim 115 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: Cook has paid a visit to the hometown of China's 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: Deep Seek. That's the company that shocked the world with 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: its artificial intelligence models built at a fraction of the 118 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: cost of American rivals. Cook met with developers at Xeijog 119 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: University and Hangjau. The city is home to some of 120 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: China's most revered tech firms, including Ali Baba and A. 121 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: Stock on the move in a big way this morning, 122 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: Karen is Game Stop. The shares of the video game 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: retailer are up more than twelve and a half percent 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: in early trading. Of course, GameStop was a favorite of 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: retail traders during the meme fre frenzy. Now, GameStop says 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: its board has approved a plan to add bitcoin as 127 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: a treasury reserve asset. 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: Time now for look at some of the other stories 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: making news in New York and around the world, and 130 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 3: for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 131 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 8: Michael, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen. President Trump signed an 132 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 8: executive order that aims to overhaul the election system. One 133 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 8: of the order's requirement is to require voters to show 134 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 8: proof of citizenship before they can register for federal elections. 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 8: Loyola Law School professor Jessica Levinson says Trump's action will 136 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 8: likely face a vigorous legal challenge. 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 11: Estimates are that almost ten percent of US citizens of 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 11: voting age, which is over twenty one million people, don't 139 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 11: have proof of citizenship. They're readily available. Who are we 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 11: talking about here when it comes to people who lack 141 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 11: proof of citizenship that's readily available. Sometimes we're talking about 142 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 11: married women who have changed their names and their birth 143 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 11: certificates list their maiden names. 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 8: Loyola Law School professor Jessica Levinson spoke to CBS. There's 145 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 8: growing concern about DNA held by a testing firm. New 146 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 8: York Attorney General Letitia James is joining a chorus of 147 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 8: voices warning millions of users to delete their data and 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 8: destroy DNA samples held by twenty three and Me. It 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 8: comes after twenty three and Me declared bankruptcy, raising concerns 150 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 8: of whether the genetic testing company can protect its customers. 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 8: Vice president JD. Van said that he would join a 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 8: delegation visiting Greenland this week, and said he would join 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 8: the trip on Friday, which was already slated to include 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 8: his wife. 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: There was so much excitement around Usha's visit to Greenland 156 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: this Friday that I decided that I didn't want her 157 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: to have all that fund by herself, and so I'm 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: going to join her. 159 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 8: The trip has smart criticism from local leaders in the 160 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 8: Danish territory that President Donald Trump has suggested should come 161 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 8: under American control. New York Governor Kathy Hokeel asked the 162 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 8: federal government to increase its funding contribution to the Metropolitan 163 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 8: Transportation Authority in a March twenty fourth letter. The MTA 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 8: carries forty three percent of the nation's mass transit writers 165 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 8: but receives only seventeen percent of federal funding, which Hoko 166 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 8: calls a fundamental misalignment. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called the 167 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 8: request outrageous, adding in a social media post, Governor hokel 168 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 8: is asking for more money for the horribly run MDA 169 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 8: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 170 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 8: want it with Bloomberg News. Now. I'm Michael Barr, and 171 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg Kevin. 172 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State OUTI 174 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: here's John Stanshawer, John, good morning. 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 12: Norning, Karen a wake Ago. Tommy DeVito was the only 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 12: quarterback on the Giants roster. Then last Friday they added 177 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 12: Jameis Winston. Now four days later, Russell Wilson has become 178 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 12: a Giant. Just a one year deal. He can make 179 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 12: up to twenty one million, about half that guaranteed. 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 8: Wilson is thirty six. 181 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 12: They're not getting the nine time pro bowler from his 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 12: days in Seattle. He struggled in Denvery with subbar down 183 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 12: the stretch this past season with Pittsburger. Wilson's career record 184 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 12: as a starting QB is forty four games over five hundred. 185 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 12: This puts the Giants out of the running to get 186 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers, but the feeling is it does not mean 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 12: they won't also draft a quarterback next month. 188 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 8: They've got the third pick. 189 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 12: The Patriots signed veteran white out Stefan Diggs the Garden. 190 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 8: Triple Double Knight. 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 12: Karl Anthony Towns twenty six points, Josh Hart scored sixteen. 192 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 12: They both add twelve rebounds and eleven assists for Hart 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 12: his ninth triple double this season, breaking Clyde Fraser's team record. 194 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 12: Teammates with triple doubles had never been done before in 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 12: next history. They made Dallas one twenty eight to one thirteen. 196 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 12: The coach his tump him out. 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 5: Uh the way, you know Josh was going to another 198 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: triple double, breaking the record, you know, great accomplishment, and 199 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 5: then tab Kat do it as well. That's pretty special. 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 5: But uh Ogi was terrific throughout. I thought McHale gave 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: us really good minutes and then our point guard play 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: between Cam and Tyler was was also very good. 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 12: Jennen and I'll be team high thirty five points. Not 204 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 12: g Marshall scored thirty eight for the Mass Rangers in 205 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 12: La scored first JT. Miller early second perioded, but it 206 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 12: was their only goal. They lost to the King three 207 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 12: to one. 208 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 8: John Stashiel went Boomberg Sports. 209 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: Karennath Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 211 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: bloom Burg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 212 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager, and we now stand a 213 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: week away from President Trump's promised liberation day of country 214 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: by country tariffs around the world. After hinting earlier this 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: week that some countries could get breaks, the President now 216 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: says he does not want too many exceptions. 217 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: All we're going to do it's reciprocal. We're just going 218 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: to be reciprocal. In fact, I'll probably be more lenient 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: than reciprocal, because if I was reciprocal, that would be 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: very tough for people. 221 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke on Newsmax as Bloomberg News has learned, 222 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: the President may impose copper tariffs within weeks, months ahead 223 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: of deadline. For the very latest, we are joined by 224 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries. Bill, what is the 225 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: President considering when it comes to copper tariffs. 226 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 8: What have we learned? 227 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Nathan, Thanks for having me. So what 228 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 6: we do know is when President Trump called on the 229 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 6: Department of Commerce to look into the possibility of tariffs 230 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: on copper imports, that investigation could have taken up to 231 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 6: nine months. Now it seems like the administration their probe 232 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: is moving very quickly. They expect to have a report 233 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 6: on the President's desk very shortly. So nine months has 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 6: gone down to possibly days or weeks before a report 235 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: is ready and the President makes a decision with people 236 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 6: in the administration. Administration suggesting that the President has largely 237 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 6: made up his mind that there will likely be tariffs 238 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 6: on copper imports. And you saw that affecting the markets. 239 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: Today absolutely, with copper trading close to if not at 240 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: a record. Why the apparent rush here, Bill, I mean, 241 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: it took several months, didn't it for steal into aluminum 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: tariffs to be finalized? 243 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: It did? 244 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 6: I think? You know, I think the President has just 245 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 6: identified this as another one of his priorities. It's a 246 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 6: way to it's a way to, in his mind, I think, 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 6: help boost domestic mining, domestic manufacturing, try to get more 248 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 6: of that in here. The reality is what we're seeing 249 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 6: with a lot of products, including metals, is that shippers 250 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 6: are trying to get that into the US before anything 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 6: takes effect. But as you know, and people who are 252 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 6: listening every day, no on this show, every day, we 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: have a slightly different news when it comes to tariffs. 254 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 6: So what we're talking about today, there's still a lot 255 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: of time for things to change before copper tariffs come 256 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 6: and before this April second Liberation Day that the President 257 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 6: keeps talking about. 258 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: And to that point, the President keeps talking about whether 259 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: some countries could get exceptions, whether he even wants to 260 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: see exceptions. What is the messaging that we're getting from 261 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: the President at this point when it comes to what 262 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: we could get on this coming Wednesday, Well. 263 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 6: What we expected, I think a few weeks ago was 264 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 6: perhaps a wall of tariffs coming down on all imported 265 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 6: goods from all countries. It looks like that perhaps is 266 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: a bit of a stretch in terms of being able 267 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 6: to do that for every country. The administration has repeatedly 268 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 6: talked about a narrower list of countries. We don't know 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: how many countries are in a narrower list. That certainly 270 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 6: opens the door for a lot of lobbying by different countries, 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: and I think what we heard in your clip there 272 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 6: is the President pushing back on some of those efforts. 273 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 6: But we know the countries he's talked quite a bit about. 274 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 6: They include Canada and Mexico obviously already under a lot 275 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: of tariffs. There's China, There's India, who he said has 276 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 6: very high tariffs, even Ireland, So a lot of European 277 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 6: countries likely facing some of these tariffs as well. So 278 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 6: it's just universally, there's not going to be a lot 279 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 6: of clarity until we wake up on April second. 280 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: While the market's focused on what could be coming a 281 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: week from today, there's also a lot of focus in 282 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: Washington still Bill on this signal chat that Atlantic journalist 283 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg got into about Yemen plans. What's the latest on. 284 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 6: That, Well, we're seeing a real circling of the wagons there, 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: the President saying that they're going to be looking into 286 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 6: how this journalist was added to that text, but largely 287 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 6: defending his National security advisor Michael Waltz for the work 288 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 6: he's done so far there, Michael saying that he doesn't 289 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 6: know how Jeffrey Goldberg got into that chat group. He 290 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 6: said he took responsibility, but he's not sure how that happened. 291 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 6: And then you had the D and I director Tulsea 292 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 6: Gabbard and John Ratcliffe, head of the CIA, up on 293 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 6: the Hill yesterday, up on the Hill today. 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