WEBVTT -  Conversations About No Ceilings First Rule

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>low glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>Women are sugar, all right, and they think that they

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're something sweet that everybody wants that makes

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<v Speaker 2>everything better. What they fail to realize in being sugar

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<v Speaker 2>is that unless you just limit your exposure to them

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<v Speaker 2>to limited amounts and infrequent occasions, it will kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>M I like that because the belief, for sure is

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<v Speaker 1>like women feel like like if you notice a man

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<v Speaker 1>that got a lot of girls, or they mess with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of girls growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they start losing their hairline. A girl told me

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<v Speaker 3>that I never thought about that. Yeah, they explain.

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<v Speaker 4>That to I thought there was money that did that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you need the money to manage the women.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I like that women are like sugar.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And like if you've got a girl in a side

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<v Speaker 2>chick that's not double the sugar, that's diabetes and heart disease.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not lying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not false because it looks like women don't always

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<v Speaker 1>demand certain things, you know what I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>come with the territory and they and.

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<v Speaker 2>They think everybody loves a cupcake with a bunch of frosting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but if you eat them all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a problem. Yeah, problem facts.

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<v Speaker 5>But everyone loves a cupcake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you do have to very much consuming moderations. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this sounds crazy. So we've been doing the stream

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously we've been having Coach will on there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>King has been there, Yeah, Barb has been there.

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<v Speaker 6>Bar is a remember Barb used to help us intern

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<v Speaker 6>with no Feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Barb has kind of jumped on the stream obviously trapped

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<v Speaker 3>and then only six John.

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<v Speaker 1>So they come through for the stream and I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling them. I was telling King and he didn't believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, Cilings has a rule. There's a rule

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<v Speaker 1>with women. And what's the rule, Pete?

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<v Speaker 5>Women live in the universe without consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>No accountability to accountability, So you don't try to pass

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<v Speaker 1>accountability to women and they get mad and people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>King thought I made that up. I'm like, bro me

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<v Speaker 1>and Pete decided that four or five years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was like episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are not going to spend our time trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hold women accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>That would not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we don't have podcasts bashing women. We only

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<v Speaker 1>had podcasts giving women excellent advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean don't as bashing women to me is

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<v Speaker 2>like especially for their lack of accountability or refusal to

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<v Speaker 2>have a relationship with accountability. It's it's like tantamount to

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<v Speaker 2>bashing outer space for being far away.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>They like that, or like bashing the summer for being hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna change it. It's certainly true,

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<v Speaker 2>but why wear yourself out?

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<v Speaker 1>What's crazy is I could see King playing a video

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<v Speaker 1>game while we're doing the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>You said, I'm not on a video Yes you are.

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<v Speaker 4>You said, nobody says this. We all see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, just nobody nobody else.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, now it's on Twitter, so the world sees.

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<v Speaker 7>You see well, So even though we don't engage with

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<v Speaker 7>the with the audience necessarily on no ceilings the podcast,

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<v Speaker 7>I just thought it would be dope to to you know,

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<v Speaker 7>people could hear this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>People can only hear this conversation, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And they can.

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<v Speaker 6>They won't be able to see it anymore, but at

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<v Speaker 6>least they can hear us have it live.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sometimes I'll do something quirky, I mean, p ain't

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<v Speaker 3>been on the stream, so I think people miss seeing Peece.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna come in on the stream on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got into a shit fucking contract Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to write it out and like make a

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<v Speaker 2>just death sentence exit at like three point fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. You figured out, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get it together. We just need to really get

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<v Speaker 1>everything right. Anyway, it's about time week. I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need you to manage all of this paper man,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is gonna be going down.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's the what's the topic the subject you said

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<v Speaker 4>you wrote down?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought about talking about why we established this rule?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, why we establish this rule?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We only do the podcast once a week, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. It's only an audio because Pete's not here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't figured out how to do it visually

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<v Speaker 1>tight to our like we have something cool visually. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about a couple of things. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>watching those sports shows and how they tell them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about doing that so we can add this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It might work, Okay. I'm also going through a.

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<v Speaker 1>Level of stress because everybody's about to start asking me

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<v Speaker 1>for Kendrick tickets to this concert, which I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be bothered.

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<v Speaker 4>With, Like I kind of want to go, but then

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny too, because I was gonna ask you that

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<v Speaker 3>question because I know it's funny as hell because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like people was hitting me up yesterday because it

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<v Speaker 3>was in Tacoma. You know, It's like I got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people hitting me up like a messenger, and shit,

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't even answer, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't manage that bro. Yes, he's my partner,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't manage him. I'm not I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bug him while he's on tour, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I'm not trying to hit Like I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him a couple of times and that's it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to like, can't my nigga have his

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<v Speaker 1>moment on his own?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no one's allowed that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not be that is Also that's like, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>can a woman be accountable? Can you blow up and

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<v Speaker 2>not get bothered? I mean ideally, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we are on Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>Those ceilings.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest podcast on Earth, even if you don't know it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother Peter boss last is left, got king in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. So why can't we not hold women again? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what made.

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<v Speaker 6>Me think of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what Megan the Stallion did.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know, Like I've ran through every last

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<v Speaker 1>thing in my mind, what this US could have did.

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<v Speaker 5>What that's about how it should go.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I'm saying right, it's like, Okay, let me think,

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<v Speaker 1>has she done more questionable ship that like nobot held

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<v Speaker 1>her accountable for that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's not why.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me get to it. So it's like Tory Lanes

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<v Speaker 6>was charged with assault.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I think it's assault with a semi automatic pistol,

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<v Speaker 1>being in possession.

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<v Speaker 6>Of a pistol, and gross negligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they found a gun in his car and his

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle that he was traveling with these ladies. They found

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<v Speaker 1>GSR on his hand, a re a very the amount

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<v Speaker 1>that you lee with when you fire weapon. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't charge him with attempted murder. They didn't charge him

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<v Speaker 1>with assault with a deli weapon. They charged him with

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<v Speaker 1>these really simple charges that are easy to prove.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure didn't I saw something briefly in passing on like

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<v Speaker 2>the bullshit internet, which might be right, might not be right.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that. Did another girl in the car

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<v Speaker 5>claim that she shot the gun?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay it so that's really we're going to get there.

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<v Speaker 4>I got you. So whatever Meghan did, people just hate

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<v Speaker 4>her mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pete, I'd consider myself a thinking person. I'm a thinker.

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<v Speaker 1>I really will take time to think. I will take

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<v Speaker 1>time to read and research. I have no problem with it. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>every last thing I've tried to think about is because

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<v Speaker 1>she's dark skinned. May Yeah, she's right, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how I'm gona get to that, how I

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<v Speaker 1>got to that.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't like her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you that's why they probably don't like her.

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<v Speaker 1>But what makes you think everybody don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Darker than me or darker than you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well or me.

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<v Speaker 6>She's probably between me and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me, let me get to the point. Let me

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<v Speaker 6>get to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>So because everybody is saying they're upset with her because

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<v Speaker 1>she got this guy put in jail, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>case is the case is really simple, and Stevie Wonder

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<v Speaker 1>could see he was gonna be convicted of these charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Funck the court of public criminal at least that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying. They're saying they're mad at her because she

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<v Speaker 1>got this innocent man locked up her best friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Her the best friend shot her.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I'm like, even when you visit that, you're like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get this right. Tory goes to jail like

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<v Speaker 1>he put out a message to Jason Lee. Jason Lee

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<v Speaker 1>is like the host of Hollywood a lot, cool dude

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<v Speaker 1>in the boxing, Why fuck with him? And Jason Lee says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>toy sent me a text and he's protecting black women.

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<v Speaker 4>Then what are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>If your goal is to keep Tory and Megan out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail, then why are you trying to get them

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<v Speaker 1>put in jail now?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Which that don't make sense, but I entertained it for

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<v Speaker 6>the thought.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're all supposed to be mad because Megan, I've heard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's a slut, y'all, was just going to

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<v Speaker 1>Amber Roses slut walk three four years ago. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>told y'all, y'all motherfuckers is stupid for going there. Out

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the only thing that I could come up

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<v Speaker 1>with is she looks like a sister.

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<v Speaker 6>She's dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Cassie, who is pretty much responsible for the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm, getting this dude put in prison for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of his life. Trump Puff could get life in

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<v Speaker 3>prison because he dragged Cassie to the floor and kicked

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<v Speaker 3>her in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, no matter what we say about the video, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the video again, the whole context.

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<v Speaker 6>He dragged her to the floor and kicked her in

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<v Speaker 6>the ass.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But you shouldn't get life for dragging your old lad

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor and kicking her in the ass, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I noticed nobody's upset with Cassie at all. Even

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<v Speaker 1>as shout out to Inner City Press on Twitter, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>follow that person if you're listening to this podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>Inner City Inner with two ends, I n n R

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<v Speaker 1>City Press. He's doing transcripts of the whole case. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's really great because I know a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>that that consume hip hop, right, all of us that

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<v Speaker 1>consume hip hop, and I mean we do have our

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<v Speaker 1>media outlets, and in the media outlets, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>may not be hip hop, we follow them because they

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<v Speaker 1>do cover hip hop. Sometimes they'll have one particular thing

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<v Speaker 1>and that'll be like the thing for the next.

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<v Speaker 6>Four hours were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But remember the case with Puff is only built

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<v Speaker 1>right because Cassie files her civil suit. That's where the

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<v Speaker 1>case came from. It's not anything before that. When she

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<v Speaker 1>filed a civil suit right to make Puff pay her

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<v Speaker 1>the money she wanted to not put out her book.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how the fans got involved to start investigating. So

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<v Speaker 1>she's just as responsible as.

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<v Speaker 4>Megan would be. For Tori.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, what's going on? We're doing a podcast right that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to jump oncast?

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<v Speaker 4>Still?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well, we're gonna call you soon we finished the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Still, I gotta hit you up. I gotta email

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<v Speaker 5>back from that lady about the.

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<v Speaker 6>He said he still, So that's why Puff is in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>So when people asking is Cassie had fought, Yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>she filed a civil lawsuit and it made the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>justice system get involved and they thought they missed something

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<v Speaker 1>and they started to investigate, their start witness is Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, that's why Puff is in jail because Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>filed this civil suit to get this money. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>charges are trumped up, but rest as sure that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're there, So she pretty much is responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>reason Puff.

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<v Speaker 4>Is fighting us.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't see nobody talking shit to her, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you see a couple people and to me, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>judging the same thing. They're trying to judge her morality. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>she let some strangers sleep with her and nott on her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and rub it on Puff, or she peede

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<v Speaker 1>in the mouth or stuff that I don't even care about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't look.

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<v Speaker 4>I think them people on drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're on drugs, you come up, like most

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<v Speaker 1>of these rappers, some of the stuff that y'all think

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<v Speaker 1>is the shit ain't the shit, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you get on again, some of the rappers

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<v Speaker 1>y'all listen to, they be on that dope, so they

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<v Speaker 1>come up with all kinds of crazy shit. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine if you're on that dope when you in

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<v Speaker 1>some sex shit, you probably come up with some crast

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<v Speaker 1>ship too, your fuck around be sleeping hitting your old lady.

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<v Speaker 4>With a carrot.

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<v Speaker 6>Is Tory lanes light skinned. Tory Lanez is Canadian, So.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a brother, Okay, because you said the difference, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking, like I'm comparing Cassie. How come she's

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<v Speaker 3>not a victim, but yet Cassie is a victim, like

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<v Speaker 3>Meg got shot in her foot, but she's still not

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<v Speaker 3>a victim.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems like.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Cassie, no matter what, they her as a victim,

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<v Speaker 3>but mag got shot in the motherfucking filled I was

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<v Speaker 3>just asking, like, is he light skinned? And it's a

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<v Speaker 3>dark light thing because he's light skinning. Megan's dark because

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<v Speaker 3>Cassie's light And I don't think he is dark.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm in the minority. I don't think Megan's dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, compared to Cassie, Megan is black. As you

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<v Speaker 1>might be biased.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm just looking at pictures of the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them next to each other, you know, like they have

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<v Speaker 2>the collages of pictures.

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<v Speaker 5>She's a slightly lighter, but I'll put them in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>But she way darker compared to Cassie. Megan is darker,

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<v Speaker 1>way darker.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I'll say about Cassie, the older she gets,

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<v Speaker 2>the more money she gets, the lighter she gets her

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<v Speaker 2>younger pictures versus her recent pictures, because there's more lighting

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<v Speaker 2>thrust upon her. I'm just saying, with age, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm looking at and as I'm just looking like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about it, a lot of them dark skinning

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<v Speaker 3>the girls and they did get oh, I get lighter.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like the reverse Michael Jordan effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, me and Peter talked about this before that women

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<v Speaker 1>tend to do their makeup lighter.

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<v Speaker 4>To show to make their face look lighter. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's makeup they doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The initial idea was to make them look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not out in the sun doing the work, even though

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<v Speaker 1>that's changed today to some degree. Now it everybody's getting

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<v Speaker 1>a tan, so they're vacationing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say with the black community, there's a certain premium

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<v Speaker 2>on being exotically mixed with something which usually would indicate

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<v Speaker 2>or result in you being slightly lighter. And like you

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<v Speaker 2>see that, like girls claim that they're mixed with god

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<v Speaker 2>knows what they're like, maybe possibly ambiguously one sixteenth Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>and they say.

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<v Speaker 5>They're blazing or whatever it might be them all the time,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, every.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, that's true. So the only thing I could come

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<v Speaker 1>up with is that Cassie is lighter and Megan is black.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if they both are response.

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<v Speaker 5>And one you hear about. I think if you had

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<v Speaker 5>a video.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you could discernibly see the damage to that foot,

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<v Speaker 2>people would be like Jesus Christ, like she's walking or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like she stumbles out of the thing and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hemorrhaging blood out the foot.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not mad at that. So you may maybe if.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a girl get popped, people get all funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But you heard about it, It's like, eh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But if she would be missing toes and like she

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<v Speaker 6>had a hole in.

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<v Speaker 1>Her foot or something, you know, they would have charged

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<v Speaker 1>way more. Somebody would have really got messed up toys

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. Because so I'll be honest with you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I am, I've been charged with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>crimes in California, definitely double digits at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had to fought double digit cases.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of the cases kind of end up getting thrown out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been in jail double digits times, fighting cases,

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<v Speaker 1>double of litigation. No, no, no, I ain't gonna do all

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<v Speaker 1>that because they gonna for sure day.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they will try to pull shit up forty

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, but what I am is they charged him light.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to jail because antagonizing the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>What you mean, That's why Tory Lanez is in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>I was antagonizing them.

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<v Speaker 1>He had his press saying that the state of California

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<v Speaker 1>and Rock Nation was coming after him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm.

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<v Speaker 6>And California is very much, you know, media savvy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the media and anti gun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>If you talking about I was gonna get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're talking about California as a state, media, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't play with their reputation.

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<v Speaker 6>It ain't just it ain't just black La some gang

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<v Speaker 6>banger ship.

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<v Speaker 1>State of California, the city of Los Angelesten, the state

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<v Speaker 1>of California does not play about their repute.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, California is the fiftieth rated state out of fifty

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<v Speaker 2>for business friendly climate from a legal standpoint. From a

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<v Speaker 2>media standpoint, it is number one out of fifty.

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<v Speaker 6>Say that again for him.

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<v Speaker 2>For the cumulative economy, California is the fiftieth least business

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<v Speaker 2>friendly state.

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<v Speaker 6>So out of have it, the heart is here hardest.

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<v Speaker 5>But if your media best first out of fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>So California is like a gang banger they are, they

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<v Speaker 3>will do some things to you over their reputation. They

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<v Speaker 3>will do some things to you over.

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<v Speaker 1>Their reputation, and Torri was fucking with the reputation. They say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make an example out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also discharging of firearming.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get caught in California with a gun and

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<v Speaker 1>you won't even go to jail. You can get a

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<v Speaker 1>probation multiple times. They won't put you in prison. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the gun. You know, we gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>not right, We're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you shoot it. They don't care if you shot

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<v Speaker 4>it in the air.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to prison, not jail.

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<v Speaker 4>That that hard on shooting guns. You shoot a.

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<v Speaker 1>Gun around this mother, you're going to prison. You discharge

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<v Speaker 1>a gun, and city limits and all that, they not

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<v Speaker 1>plan about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never fired a gun in California, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona and Nevada just in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get just driving, just get out. Oh there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a sand embankment.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna just put some.

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<v Speaker 2>Up just just because I'm out here, not in California.

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<v Speaker 4>You do that. So Tory fucked up there. Toy fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Tory fucked up because he decided, like you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna make a fool out of this state, in

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<v Speaker 1>this city, and the charges was discharging the firearms.

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<v Speaker 6>It's somebody got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Megan didn't get no bullet through her feet or nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but the bullets you know it caused damn it,

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<v Speaker 1>because why do you get hit.

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<v Speaker 5>The foots only about an inch stick? Like what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't, she didn't get hit. She called a she

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<v Speaker 4>called a rigochet or the fragments and.

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<v Speaker 5>Fragment or like a hollow tip fragment popper in the foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they wasn't in again. I watched the case

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<v Speaker 1>and watched it from like how it was happening. They

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<v Speaker 1>weren't trying to he started using it. He was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have his Tupac moment, like he keeps trying to

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<v Speaker 1>have his Tupac moment. Stop antagonizing these people. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck is you're doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro? You are black.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want a Tupac moment, take your Tupac in there,

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<v Speaker 2>take your time and come out and be pistol.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not. He's Canadian. He don't know how this American works.

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Fucking that's a topic in the in and of itself

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<v Speaker 5>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and minus the American part. It's California with this.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like.

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<v Speaker 4>In New York.

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<v Speaker 6>If you get caught with a gun, you're in the prison.

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<v Speaker 4>Just the gun itself.

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<v Speaker 1>If you woul discharge a gun, yeah you you you

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<v Speaker 1>get multiple I know, it's like that in d C.

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<v Speaker 4>D C's really fucked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>California is very liberal on gun even though they got

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<v Speaker 1>some of the worst gun laws.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very pretty liberal. You see, they getting like years

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<v Speaker 4>for each bulley and shit that's in the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>All about laws, and it's crazy, not about law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>writing them down.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't like enforcing them.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna make some money. So Tory would have shut up.

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<v Speaker 4>He probably would have got charged with all these charges.

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Tory would have probably did eighteen he'd have got eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd have been home in about three and deported and

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<v Speaker 1>then he could have worked it out, spent his money

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<v Speaker 1>and came back.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you do now? How much you getting? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him every bit of time, because you're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with these people who care about the reputation. These people

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>care about that reputation. I mean, the lady is unimportant.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't give a fuck about Megan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you talking about us, and they start naming the DA,

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 3>they start naming the d O. Who's fought You think

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Dad is Tory? Are his his people that market?

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<v Speaker 6>So his public is my partner.

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe my Mady.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't this motherfucking crazy.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>She might be though Madi is a cold She's one

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of the best, but you gotta know you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where it comes down to this real crippt

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<v Speaker 1>because I for sut them, like Mady, the these motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>people alone. Don't fuck with California, fuck with Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's work these deals in the back. Do not make

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>these people look crazy. If you make these people look crazy,

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make a fool out of you, like a cryp.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't embarrass me, don't embarrass me. Don't do that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how California is in Los Angeles. Do not play with

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.120
<v Speaker 1>these people reputation. But the point I'm saying is they

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<v Speaker 1>blame Megan for Toy go on jail, and then Toy

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<v Speaker 1>just got stabbed.

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<v Speaker 4>H this is another story.

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<v Speaker 3>But again now they're blaming Megan, but Tory getting stabbed,

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 3>and then Tory is disseminating information like yeah, I'm just

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 3>protecting two black women.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you protect the two systems, full shut up,

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 4>walk the time off. Yeah, true, facts, facts, but I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Say that again.

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<v Speaker 5>We live in the age of the coward and martyr.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, wow, heavy Pete.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you see it all the time, like people

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<v Speaker 2>want to go out, Oh I'm and while they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so brave.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm standing up to the system.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the system shows you why you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be brave to do that, and it's tears across America.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's Kaepernick.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Kaepernick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's those white judges that smuggled the illegals around and

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<v Speaker 2>then got arrested and claimed, Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, which one is it? Are you a rebel or

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<v Speaker 5>are you a punk? You can't be. I mean you

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<v Speaker 5>can be both. You just look like an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel what I look like complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>laws as an outlaw. Yeah, I only get on people

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>when i'm talking when I'm like, when I'm mad about

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<v Speaker 1>r Kelly getting more than twelve years or thirteen years

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<v Speaker 1>for the crimes, because that's what they called for. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling the people me, I don't got nothing to say, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Outlaw worry about rights. No, so whatever happen happens, life

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<v Speaker 4>we live.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're an outlaw, but you don't want the innocent

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 3>people get caught up in this bullshit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm questioning the other people that's not like me. Yeah,

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm saying. You don't want those people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not finna write a letter R. I didn't fuck

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<v Speaker 3>with R Kelly before he went to jail. I'm not

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 3>a fucking fan of R.

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly, but R Kelly is really isn't an outlaw?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, okay, I'm calling it everybody else out if

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck what happened on I Kelly outside?

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<v Speaker 4>He's a brother. But my question to everybody else is,

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 4>how are y'all okay with this?

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Like puff, how are y'all okay with this this?

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 4>This is supposed to be y'all calling card.

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 3>He ain't killed nobody, he ain't rob nobody, he ain't

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 3>did no outlass shit. No, he just party freakingly. And

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if it is the word. I'm finnah,

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 3>stop calling that shit a free.

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<v Speaker 4>That niggas, but I just I see what you're saying.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>He ain't did nothing that deserves twenty forty fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>in prison life.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck that theyre trying to get Puff life.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Ell, he's not an outlaw like that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, he not even a threat to society. Not like

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 6>when Puff came in the room.

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>They had to jump on all of this because he

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>spent money on the company credit card. And they're saying

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.959
<v Speaker 2>because he used a company credit card that paid for

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>drugs and also paid for security. Thereby it is that's

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<v Speaker 2>basically it instead of personal credit card.

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<v Speaker 5>Effectively, Yes, okay, this is what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's brilliant lawyery.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Whoever is brilliant lawyering for like a second year law.

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<v Speaker 4>Student you think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't give credit if they could turn Puffed

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Daddy and John Gotti how like you not much work

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that way now.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 4>But you said it's pretty It's really easy to do.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 5>That's easy to shop. Anybody can forum shop a ship

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 5>judge in a ship district.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's cool to get in front of a court.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>To get in front of a judge, how do you

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>convince them? How How is the public gassed up to

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>think that they removing a threat from the streets.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they are right now.

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I think I think that I think everybody's looking at

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 3>him winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're getting from from the marketing standpoint, Yeah, because

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you make because now the other thing, there's two we're

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>looking and there's two.

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<v Speaker 5>Things happening in America in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>One coward martyrs and two everyone's a sexual predatory. Any

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's not fucking missionary their wife is some sort

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>of weird predator freak.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>You're right, and you have a bunch of social media

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 3>people trying to act like that that they're more That's

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 3>what I was cousin tramp bout.

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Accept the women who sell pussy through the dms, because

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the all they do is professionally towerk in front of

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>their cell phone.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh god damn day. They're excluded. They're the victims.

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<v Speaker 4>It is weird, man.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's my point. If you're so mad

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>mad at Megan. So when I'm starting to believe Megan's

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>publicist is nowhere as good as.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 4>It's Tories.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>And Hassis publicis, we're not even assets publishers. The federal

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>government's publicist is unbelievable. But maybe Megan's publicist, you know,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we're smarter like lead us alone. Let it go know,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because they had her do some ship that I like,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that was dumb, Like what what happened?

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 4>She went and did Gail's show talked about it. Look

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 4>in general, yeah, you just.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>View of saying, let's go to work for Kamala Harris's

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>presidential campaign.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 5>This is this is not a chessboard operation.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I know it's real because it ain't

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>really too much marketing on that end.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Mh.

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But again it also makes me think about storytelling, Like again,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>if this whole world is all about shaping stories. They

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>have convinced the general public that Puff is John Gotti

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like that Puff was a threat to the health of society.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>But you think Puff tried to lead that life before

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>all this like a mobster type, you know persona.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I always thought that I never got that I did

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>my first start, you know, yeah, I never.

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Got Puff was like a mobster Like I saw Puff

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>make like little things with albums like Puffing No Way

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Out they standing.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think nobody.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>At twenty years ago when he first came out, that's

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the kind of persona I thought of him. But then

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 3>as time went on, he just became something else.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 4>To me.

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<v Speaker 3>I never got tough and puffed together I got him

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to be tough twenty years ago when we first

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 3>came into the industry where you know, like I said,

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 3>try to be like the mob person, like the boss.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Well he was the boss. He was the CEO of

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 4>a label. Yeah, real quick.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>So is part of that due too, and is there

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>any traction to it anyway?

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 5>But like the like the rumor that.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Puff was like shuffling back door money to the crips

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to try to get to poker some people to death,

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>throw shot or try to stoke flames locally and the

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Compton Street politics scene, what however, you wanted to find

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, is it because it seemed like that came

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>up again when what's his name? Uh, his trial happened.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>The other guy in the car forgot his name. Like

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I seen pieces that he was like sort of validating

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>some of that ship. You know that I'm talking about

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the other guy in the car, not Orlando or yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That guy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, none of these two things got none. But but

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know, maybe it's the crippen I

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>just never got put in tough together. Dud dude does

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the average everyday American looking puff as he's like because

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>he makes rap songs like he's like on some tough shit.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, do you think there's a difference between he's

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 2>tough and he's.

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 5>Because you could probably not.

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Be tough to have the money and the means to

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 2>outsource toughness.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I got that from Puff.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Like, like, even when I used to listen to people

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about the whole Tupac thing, when they thought he

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>had something to do with Tupac, everybody still thought he.

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Was a coward.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even if they told the story like, oh, yeah,

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>he can pay for Tupac to get.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Hurt, but if that's true, you can still be a

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 5>coward of the checkbook.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I still don't think people would have saw

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>him the people that catch John Gotti.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 6>People thought John Gotty was tough.

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>People thought Whitey Bolgie was tough, Like most people who

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>catch ricos. There's a genuine fear in the population about

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this person.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 5>Fair.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, I never got Puff and tough.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Puff is closer to like that big poly guy or

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 2>whatever his name was, the tall dude that god he

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>got the got he shot.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. But but but but again, I wouldn't.

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Even say I'm saying on the spectrum. I'm not saying

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 5>he's like that. That guy, just do.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>You think put people around him that had a tough persona.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think he had security guard. Don't talk

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 3>about even as artists, you think it's artist going about

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 3>a tougher because bad Boy was the opposite of death

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 3>rop so that I thought bad Boy wasn't a tough persona. No,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 3>it's a little baby, but de Road is a tough persona.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 4>It's death romates.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so bad boys wouldn't be another term for like

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>East Coast Wales saying no, you know, I mean big.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Seem kind of you know, like.

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>He was a gangster repper like people don't feel okay,

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>general public can Like I heard, I'm working on the

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>marketing and this is what got me in this conversation.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I was working on the marketing for the song.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Me and Trapp was talking, Me and Hommies was talking today,

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking, like, oh, to reinforce a point, right,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to reinforce a point, we need to use Instagram to

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>its fullest potential. So if they have slides, maybe my

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>thing makes this one point the content we made right, yes,

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>one point content, then we can add other content pieces

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like videos that reinforce the point. Like I feel like

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we're not using these social media platforms to their fullest capabilities.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And this time I am. I'm not finna, I'm not missing.

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>We're not missing this time. We're gonna use all of

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>this too. So, for example, if one of the captions

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>is what has did the West Coast hurt or benefit hip?

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 3>Hop?

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm going to make sure I got multiple pieces

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of content and that same content that you could slide

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>over to reinforce the point.

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 4>So did it hurt or health? We're not eve gonna

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 4>talk about that because that's the point.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 6>That's something for later.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>But I'm saying, I'm saying, but instead of having that

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>one piece of content that we created to generate that conversation,

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to reinforce it. So let me ask you this,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.959
<v Speaker 3>how did you view growing up uh East Coast gangs?

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Because like I grew growing up thinking like the equivalent

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 3>of West Coast gangs was like Biggie and them guys.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 3>The way they did their gangs, it was more like

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 3>monster type, you know, workings with the you know, organizational

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>and things like that versus the West Coast. So I

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 3>always start them guys in their gangs try to model

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the monsters and stuff. Always when I was growing up,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>but now days are changed now this time and stuff.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But you don't see the racism in that. Like when

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you said the mobsters, the monsters like they're not gangsters.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Like people don't know.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I said, that's the version of gangsters I see emulating

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 3>white people.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 4>I guess that have to be that way. But because it.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't be anything different, it ain't like it ain't like

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 3>it ain't like mafias and mobs are any different than gangs.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not saying there's different.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying they modeled that that attire or that

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>ways as over here.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 4>To me, it is different. We don't so again me

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 4>to take on names of old monsters.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you ask me about Okay, so there's the

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>real New York street games.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, they're the same. They don't look like mob moves.

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>They just regular brothers from New York, the the hip

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>hop guys from the eighties. That's how gangsters dress post

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>run DMC. They didn't dress in suits and they wouldn't

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>stand on the corner in hard bottoms and the doors

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and shit. That's not New York is just like LA.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>It's street guys. They got their own sections, they do

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>their own thing. So that was just for visuals then,

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>So what happened is this the way we decided to

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>entertain with hip hop. Our entertainment is really based off

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of what was going on where we were from. But

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we also had the benefit of Hollywood to tell everybody

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>this loose idea. Like we had Colors before in Wa

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>came out. We had boys in the hood before Snoop

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Dogg came out. You know you could see, you know,

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you could see the Ice Tea was doing the rap

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>for Colors, you know what I mean.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 4>So then when you see you say he was in Breaking, Yeah,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Ice Team was in Breaking. Yeah you said in Breaking

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 4>way back then, like damn so Ice Team was probably

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 4>twenty five.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 3>But you said that was in LA. That happened, Breaking

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 3>happened in Venice Beach. Yeah, it's at Venice Beach Breaking.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is so they look to entertain

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>more with things that you were familiar with, at least

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the better people. Wu Tang was very much just New York.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they wasn't the Smooth Brothers in New York.

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>They was just the brothers in New York. This is

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>how the brothers in the streets moved in Staten Island.

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 4>That was it.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But then when you got the Puff and Bigg and them,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>they did kind of model. They wanted the world to

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>see them as gangsters and instead of just kind of projecting.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Street New York. Okay, because mob and my mafia gree

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>stills like the Streets.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Peachtreet some reason always affiliate them with New York anyway,

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and they tried to warp.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Time, you know, like when you see the surveillance footage

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of all like Italian mobsters outside the little their little

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 2>meeting hangout spots, there are a bunch of fat asses.

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Wearing sweatsuits all damn day long.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>But you only see them on television going in and

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 2>out of court wearing a suit. You wear suit to court,

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>snoop board suits court. So they try to prop b

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 2>ig up suit and a hat and the canle that

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>should look like Bumpy Johnson from Yester generation, you know

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like dressing up like it's nineteen fifty.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Five, because that was the closest thing the general popp

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I think so from a marketing perspective and as a

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>storyteller and not understanding more. They understood that's all they saw.

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Like jay Z did the same thing. Jay z early

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff is a lot of suits. And I said, because

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>they kind of gave off that vibe back, he gave

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>more interesting in the beginning.

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the name of the group on Bad Boy

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 5>was Junior Mafia for christ.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 4>But it's all entertaining.

0:39:58.440 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think none of us took them s

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>as Black America took them serious as mafia. Fact, all

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of us, even in the eighties and nineties knew that

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>was some white people shit, you know. I mean, mafia,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>do not be fucking with no brothers. Ain't no brothers

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>in no mafias. I mean except we talking about nine

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to nine or Main Street, the black ones, the one

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not quite what we're thinking.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 6>Ain't not the Gambino family like they was.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 4>That's what I said.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't believe they object. I think they wanted

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to project. And this is kind of what makes me

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:39.479
<v Speaker 1>upset when I had that conversation, Like if I'm listening

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Special less say the n w A ushered

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in the destruction hip hop. They said in w A

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 1>or Wu Tang and it was like or Wu Tang

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for the children. That's a slogan. Wu Tang was as

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>gangster as nw A on every level. They actually might

0:40:56.120 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>have been worse. Wu Tang is the real deal. It

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was when you got knowledge from Wu Tang, you got

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>knowledge from n w A. Express yourself is very much knowledge.

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Fuck the police is very much knowledge. But it's how

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they see the rapping. It's how they see the brand

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of it all. They understand their street. They don't understand

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>our street. So you're asking them about it. So I

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>think when back to the PuF point and comparing it

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted to project, they still wanted to project

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>masculinity through toughness.

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 4>But they knew the things.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>That we would remember when it came to New York

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>was either the warriors or the mafia.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 4>You want to dress the warriors. You got the warriors

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 4>in that's what you thought of New York Street.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>The only thing you saw if you lived on the

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>West coast, What New York Street thing did you see?

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Besides you know what New York Street?

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Warriors desses on a little nice little vesses with the

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>little talents, And I don't think we would have thought

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 1>that was gangster.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 5>More malnursed group of street fighters in your life.

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 4>The tight bell bottoms and stuff around, you.

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean. Imagine, imagine imagine Big when it

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 3>came out with that. Imagine being when it came out

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 3>dressed like silence from the Warriors.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if oh oh dude.

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>You might get away recreate that movie now, but imagine,

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 3>but imagine that though people Warriors, Grandmaster make Warriors.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Man, did you see Warriors? Pete? Yeah?

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 5>What's his name?

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 4>The fuck.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Look still look like that though, like one the weird

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 2>guy like grand after Flasher who did the message.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh Melly mail, Oh yeah, ye do look like the Warriors.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he looked like the Warriors.

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 4>To this day.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>You're imagine somebody in nineteen ninety three on the whole

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>cruise like that that came out just like the Warriors.

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Right, Baseball Furies they've been dressed like that. They actually

0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 4>got a pencil like the Baseball Furies hip to see see. No,

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 4>but that's just started. That's what they was the game.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 4>See they got a bad way picture wearing baseballs.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, they probably based off the Warriors the baseball but

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 3>imagine it came out.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 4>What was what was the main crew. Uh, what was it,

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 4>Pete what main crew? The main crew that that that

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 4>was trying to get back.

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.320
<v Speaker 5>They were called the warriors.

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 4>That was water. So imagine like they came out just

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 4>like that. That's funny.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I never thought manly male looked like warriors looked like

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 3>dress like that. Yeah, they all dressed cind of like that.

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 3>That's I was a tribal thing, you know. I thought

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 3>it was more tribal things. But remember now thinking about it.

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But remember the warriors come out seventy nine and the

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>ship you know, I think it was tribal goes back

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to warriors.

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 6>I gotta go when I go back to New York,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 6>double back on some of my three hommies and politics that.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Questions, what is it about the native look? Why do

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 4>we think this is a native look that you guys

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 4>are winning? Yeah, because that's what I thought, like, damn,

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 4>they're doing like a native thing. But then you said

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 4>the warriors, Like, no, they was doing that. The warriors

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 4>were in the feathers and head bands and each warriors

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 4>of a native word.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>But but I think that's what they meant. They were warriors,

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>like like Indian tribal warriors. So that's that's why they

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>dressed that way. Different groups dressed like their entities throughout.

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 4>The Yeah, I think that's more feasible thinking about it, I.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Think that's really what it was, because they was going

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 3>to They was all going to a power wow. That's

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 3>what it is, a power wow where you know, all

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the tribes come together like a fest festival.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 6>They were all going to that that power wow.

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's say hypothetically, the Brims got their name because they

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 2>wore brimmed hats, you know, versus other groups that didn't.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 2>They stood out. They you know, that was their theme.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>The warriors were gonna dress kind of like.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, commands.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that, so so I think so

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>to your point, I digress. That's what I think with Puff.

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people saw Puff and Wu Tang as

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 1>the same type of threat. But I also think because

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>New York was aware of the essence of their street ship.

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So somebody like cool Mod you know, shout out to

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the Legend and Pioneer and ed special ed shout out

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to the Pioneer, and they didn't understand the depth of

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>what Nwa was talking about. We're speaking another language, like

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>we all have loose interpretations on English, but they hear

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it as like kill kill death, Like I hear people

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>do it all the time when they listen to drill music.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 4>They're like all them people just talking about I'm like,

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 4>you can't hear more like I here.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Why black people talking about surviving sitting in the middle

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of war, trying to be the solutions, the biggest trooper,

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to stand up get a rep I don't don't

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>hear homicidal maniac.

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't hear we killing just for no reason.

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think I always say this, but I

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think like the John Wayne Gacy of hip hop

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>would actually do well. Like imagine a rapper coming out

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like I'm killing babies. I'm walking in the house and

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he racking the song I'm about to murder this two

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>year old baby. Well, I'm sleeping with me and and

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm killing them. That wouldn't be a tight rap.

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Niggas would not be like you know what I mean,

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 4>you know what, we kind of had some trying to

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 4>make it work. I think like Hopson would do some

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 4>crazy shit. It's not gonna happen.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>One of the dopest niggas in the world is from Sacramento. Lynch, Yeah,

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that ship ain't working. That shit gonna stop right there.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Lynch is fire.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 4>But you you know what I mean, you start, they

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 4>stay on that once that one level, You're.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Not finna get passed. You're not finna get passed. Brother's

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about killing just because it's Tuesday. We gotta at

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>least see more.

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 3>So.

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't think how Technie skate that line.

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 6>That's why he's at that line. But I don't think

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:05.879
<v Speaker 6>Tech nine is a horror core.

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 3>He kind of skates a line, but he's not, like,

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 3>to me, like a horror rapper, but he's kind of

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 3>like you would think he is.

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>He actually dropped the most misjudged hip hop artist I've ever.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>He drops a lot of knowledge in what he's saying.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Before I met him, I thought he was a Satan worshiper.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I told him that he's real spiritual and ship say,

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>if you listen to his music, really listen to it,

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 3>but it don't seem that way the way he presents outside.

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 4>Looking in brand, I was like, man, I remember, was like, man, glance,

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 4>won't you hoo wone like you don't work. Was like,

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 4>you think somebody, I'm like ship that's because.

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Look, but I was so ignorant, and forgive me, give

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>me to every legend, you know what I mean, Like

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you know you are ignorant, and that's why I kind

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.959
<v Speaker 1>of that was the I threw away all my ignor

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>after that, after that meeting Tech and realized how really

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>spiritually grounded up, really how much God is in this movement.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw it and I not just knew him,

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>but saw it and I heard. I finally stopped hearing

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and started listening to what was happening. Seeing I was like, ah,

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I look like a jackass. So I think with Puff,

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we didn't. I think with Puff, we didn't

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ever consider him, you know, we didn't ever consider him.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 4>I didn't consider him tough for anything. Yeah. So the

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 4>fact that the media, the.

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>News, that the federal government was able to convince us

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that Puff was that type of threat that he was.

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 4>See, it's one thing with John Gotti.

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well just listen, there different types of threats people.

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>If it should like there was a threat to like

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>smash your head, to shoot.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 3>You, but that's even different though, I think, should I Yeah,

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it's actual criminals, you know, ship, but Puff ain't.

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think it's just a threat to your

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<v Speaker 5>booty whole. I don't think it's a threat.

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<v Speaker 4>Had justification on the street level to do what he

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 4>was doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I get every body's perception. Sugar was whooping ass and

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>got beat up sometimes shout out.

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<v Speaker 5>To the trated. It's just a different degree of threat.

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<v Speaker 4>But Puff fights.

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 6>It's Drake and J Cole.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I'm not fighting for.

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<v Speaker 3>The gang member players that play for the rams, you know,

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 3>like you know he you know, and fighting for business

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and you don't know that, right, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that the life the window it was over published

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<v Speaker 3>if that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said, it's justificaing his things is justified

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 4>fighting J Cole and Great. I just don't think that

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<v Speaker 4>that person is a threat to society.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the broader threat is if you don't

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.959
<v Speaker 2>sign favorable terms in the contract to Sugar, he's gonna

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>dangle you over a balcony until you do, and if

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 2>you if you don't, he's gonna dangle testicles in front

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<v Speaker 2>of your face.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've been doing that for years they've been doing

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<v Speaker 4>that for the beginning, you know, presson. Motherfucker's designed.

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<v Speaker 3>But even then, like I get the perception, it's not true,

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know the details, you know it's not true. Yeah,

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 3>when I get the perception, yeah, big nigga all that. Yeah, Yeah, they're.

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 4>Gonna take they jumping some dude. You know again, it's

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 4>just slapping motherfuckers. This ship does that take now, don't

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 4>get me wrong, him fighting this old lady is crappy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's not that. Still, don't scare you. Like niggah

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 4>like me around. You wanna catch you give a slap.

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 4>The nigga can like make me you old lady. They

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 4>convinced the world that they like now we go here

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 4>with this John Gotti charge. You're right. He done punched

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.240
<v Speaker 4>her up and gave her three pieces and eight pieces.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 4>I've seen that shit go down, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>What what You're right?

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 4>That was like, girl, get back here, you tripping. I

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 4>watched my mama said, I watched some niggas fight. They

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 4>my mama, what they ask real squabble between men and

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 4>women that I know a couple of women that really

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 4>do it. Yeah, you gotta fight cousins like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, not trying to downgrade with puff did to this woman.

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>He grabbed her by.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Hood, snatched her back as she's trying to leave, and

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 3>kicked her in the ass while she was crossed over.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wrong.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It should be a spousal abuse case. But the fact

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that that video has made to side turned him.

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 3>They turned down Gotty, They turned down into kidnapping and

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 3>all kind of ship.

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 4>They kidnap you, No, but they try to do the

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 4>scenario like that. How did that act?

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<v Speaker 3>John Gotti authorized fifty murders on they know they got

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 3>some of them on tape. I get how John Gotti

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 3>is saw as John Gotty, Like that's a threat to

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 3>society that you can get killed fucking with John Gotty.

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:35.399
<v Speaker 2>It's a philosophical question. Is it any different to kill

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 2>a man than to kill a man's manhood?

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but Gusson's got a point got me thinking

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 3>about this. You know, Pete, actually, who who is they

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 3>protected did he from? Like you said with God? Like God,

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 3>you got that nigga shoot anybody in restaurants and you

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:55.399
<v Speaker 3>nobody's safe.

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, I say, you know, but when who

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 4>are you are you protecting? That point? You're not protecting

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 4>kids because there's no trimes against kids.

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.879
<v Speaker 5>This is New York or New York.

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Him and him and is he not even together? No

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 4>more like who the fuck is you?

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 5>Right, there's rhetoric and there's reality here.

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 4>You put them in life to protect them, to protect

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 4>people from what.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter. There's this that's rhetoric first. Reality, This

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 5>is all the rhetoric. The reality is what is this

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 5>being tried? Eastern New York, New York. Yeah, the two

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 5>most high profile.

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Criminal courts for aspiring ambitious prosecutors in the United States.

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 2>They salivate for the opportunity to get someone high profile there.

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 2>That's why that's where high profile people go to die.

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 2>If you're over there like this. This is not about society.

0:53:57.760 --> 0:53:59.839
<v Speaker 2>It's not about Puff, it's not about any of that ship.

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>This is about some guy becoming a name brand within

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice so that in ten years he's

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<v Speaker 2>in the front of Senate trying to get confirmed as

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the Attorney General the United States.

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Or does he go to try to start charging Puff

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars to defending to get him out.

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or he's gonna run for you know, senator New

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 2>York or something like that because he's a high profile,

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:28.240
<v Speaker 2>tough on crime guy. Now everybody knows, Pete.

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I get that from their perspective. Every day I'm less

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>mad at that job.

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 4>I get it.

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 6>How the fuck did they get the public to go

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 6>for this?

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Because they have because there is still that innate and

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you see it. We've seen it in the last five

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>years on full blast Front Street Parade.

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:50.760
<v Speaker 5>There is still enough.

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Inherent trust in what the government says where there's a

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 2>big enough group of people to believe it. People believe

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the COVID shit, They believe a lot of the Trump accusations.

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 5>Leave this shit. If an authority of that brand with

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 5>the seal.

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 2>On the top of the paperwork says it, there are

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 2>enough people to believe it to make it work.

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I think.

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 3>But I hear what you're saying, Pete. But I go

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 3>back to what you said during the lunch hour Glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if people probably would have said something very

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>very beginning when the investigation started, I've been saying, you know,

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>that's saying I'm going back to what you said. You

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.360
<v Speaker 3>know at the beginning that it might not be the

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 3>same results we see the.

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Way they should have got this. You know, people should

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 4>have been protes okay goes out of line, Yes, but

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe that.

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Listen, but nobody said anything was passive and they just

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>ran it through the channels.

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 5>Because they have bound the morality of what you saw

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 5>to the morality of the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So now in the beginning, if you're gonna come out

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 2>and say this shouldn't be a rico, you know you're

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 2>facing down everybody looking at you like.

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 5>You're a pro wife beater, you're your favor of domnastic.

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<v Speaker 5>All the read this.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have nothing to do with rigo, don't have nothing

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to do with fight the old lady. But I see

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>what I see what you say.

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, Pete don't have the government's market then playing No,

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 3>he's right, people.

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 6>Know that's all that.

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:21.280
<v Speaker 4>But but this is my point.

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 6>It's like, oh, that's what I go through with R.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Kelly. Yeah, that's the way it comes off of R. Kelly.

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<v Speaker 6>With the easy matter.

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 3>They just oh whatever, if you just if you consider

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 3>morleyon just whatever anybody do to you is okay your.

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Side with them, you're morally unjust too.

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 5>When you start to see like.

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 2>A post on social media about something happening to like

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a child sex offender. All you see is this like

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>crescendo of people trying to like take the moral high

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 2>ground above the previous post.

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they should kill all of them. They should cast

0:56:57.600 --> 0:56:59.319
<v Speaker 5>right and kill all of them. They should cast right,

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 5>kill and burn all of them. They should like it.

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Just it becomes feverishort people to take an opportunity to

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're the they're the greatest bastion of you know,

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.399
<v Speaker 2>morality circle punishment of somebody doing something bad.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of similar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah