Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses Malone.
Speaker 2: Women are sugar, all right, and they think that they
Speaker 2: think that they're something sweet that everybody wants that makes
Speaker 2: everything better. What they fail to realize in being sugar
Speaker 2: is that unless you just limit your exposure to them
Speaker 2: to limited amounts and infrequent occasions, it will kill you.
Speaker 1: M I like that because the belief, for sure is
Speaker 1: like women feel like like if you notice a man
Speaker 1: that got a lot of girls, or they mess with
Speaker 1: a lot of girls growing up.
Speaker 3: Right, they start losing their hairline. A girl told me
Speaker 3: that I never thought about that. Yeah, they explain.
Speaker 4: That to I thought there was money that did that.
Speaker 5: No, you need the money to manage the women.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I like that women are like sugar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's true.
Speaker 2: And like if you've got a girl in a side
Speaker 2: chick that's not double the sugar, that's diabetes and heart disease.
Speaker 6: He's not lying.
Speaker 1: It's not false because it looks like women don't always
Speaker 1: demand certain things, you know what I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: come with the territory and they and.
Speaker 2: They think everybody loves a cupcake with a bunch of frosting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you eat them all day, every day.
Speaker 4: That's a problem. Yeah, problem facts.
Speaker 5: But everyone loves a cupcake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do have to very much consuming moderations. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so this sounds crazy. So we've been doing the stream
Speaker 1: and obviously we've been having Coach will on there. Right,
Speaker 1: King has been there, Yeah, Barb has been there.
Speaker 6: Bar is a remember Barb used to help us intern
Speaker 6: with no Feelings.
Speaker 3: Barb has kind of jumped on the stream obviously trapped
Speaker 3: and then only six John.
Speaker 1: So they come through for the stream and I was
Speaker 1: telling them. I was telling King and he didn't believe me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Cilings has a rule. There's a rule
Speaker 1: with women. And what's the rule, Pete?
Speaker 5: Women live in the universe without consequences.
Speaker 1: No accountability to accountability, So you don't try to pass
Speaker 1: accountability to women and they get mad and people. You know,
Speaker 1: King thought I made that up. I'm like, bro me
Speaker 1: and Pete decided that four or five years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was like episode two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are not going to spend our time trying
Speaker 1: to hold women accountable.
Speaker 4: That would not.
Speaker 1: That's why we don't have podcasts bashing women. We only
Speaker 1: had podcasts giving women excellent advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean don't as bashing women to me is
Speaker 2: like especially for their lack of accountability or refusal to
Speaker 2: have a relationship with accountability. It's it's like tantamount to
Speaker 2: bashing outer space for being far away.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 6: They like that, or like bashing the summer for being hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna change it. It's certainly true,
Speaker 2: but why wear yourself out?
Speaker 1: What's crazy is I could see King playing a video
Speaker 1: game while we're doing the podcast.
Speaker 4: You said, I'm not on a video Yes you are.
Speaker 4: You said, nobody says this. We all see it.
Speaker 5: Well, just nobody nobody else.
Speaker 6: Well, now it's on Twitter, so the world sees.
Speaker 7: You see well, So even though we don't engage with
Speaker 7: the with the audience necessarily on no ceilings the podcast,
Speaker 7: I just thought it would be dope to to you know,
Speaker 7: people could hear this conversation.
Speaker 1: People can only hear this conversation, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And they can.
Speaker 6: They won't be able to see it anymore, but at
Speaker 6: least they can hear us have it live.
Speaker 3: Just sometimes I'll do something quirky, I mean, p ain't
Speaker 3: been on the stream, so I think people miss seeing Peece.
Speaker 2: I was gonna come in on the stream on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and I got into a shit fucking contract Tuesday, and
Speaker 2: I had to write it out and like make a
Speaker 2: just death sentence exit at like three point fifty eight.
Speaker 5: It's the worst.
Speaker 1: It's all good. You figured out, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll get it together. We just need to really get
Speaker 1: everything right. Anyway, it's about time week. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need you to manage all of this paper man,
Speaker 1: because this is gonna be going down.
Speaker 4: So what's the what's the topic the subject you said
Speaker 4: you wrote down?
Speaker 1: Well, I thought about talking about why we established this rule?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, why we establish this rule?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: We only do the podcast once a week, right, it's
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It's only an audio because Pete's not here,
Speaker 1: and I haven't figured out how to do it visually
Speaker 1: tight to our like we have something cool visually. I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about a couple of things. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: watching those sports shows and how they tell them.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about doing that so we can add this thing.
Speaker 3: It might work, Okay. I'm also going through a.
Speaker 1: Level of stress because everybody's about to start asking me
Speaker 1: for Kendrick tickets to this concert, which I really don't
Speaker 1: want to be bothered.
Speaker 4: With, Like I kind of want to go, but then
Speaker 4: I kind of don't want to go.
Speaker 3: It's funny too, because I was gonna ask you that
Speaker 3: question because I know it's funny as hell because I
Speaker 3: feel like people was hitting me up yesterday because it
Speaker 3: was in Tacoma. You know, It's like I got a
Speaker 3: lot of people hitting me up like a messenger, and shit,
Speaker 3: I just didn't even answer, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I don't manage that bro. Yes, he's my partner,
Speaker 1: but I don't manage him. I'm not I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to bug him while he's on tour, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm not trying to hit Like I talked
Speaker 1: to him a couple of times and that's it. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like, can't my nigga have his
Speaker 1: moment on his own?
Speaker 5: No, no one's allowed that.
Speaker 2: Let's not be that is Also that's like, that's like
Speaker 2: can a woman be accountable? Can you blow up and
Speaker 2: not get bothered? I mean ideally, but.
Speaker 5: Here we are on Earth.
Speaker 4: Those ceilings.
Speaker 1: Greatest podcast on Earth, even if you don't know it yet.
Speaker 1: My brother Peter boss last is left, got king in
Speaker 1: the house. So why can't we not hold women again? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what made.
Speaker 6: Me think of this conversation.
Speaker 4: I don't know what Megan the Stallion did.
Speaker 1: I really don't know, Like I've ran through every last
Speaker 1: thing in my mind, what this US could have did.
Speaker 5: What that's about how it should go.
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying right, it's like, Okay, let me think,
Speaker 1: has she done more questionable ship that like nobot held
Speaker 1: her accountable for that?
Speaker 4: That's not why.
Speaker 6: Let me get to it. So it's like Tory Lanes
Speaker 6: was charged with assault.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I think it's assault with a semi automatic pistol,
Speaker 1: being in possession.
Speaker 6: Of a pistol, and gross negligence.
Speaker 1: Because they found a gun in his car and his
Speaker 1: vehicle that he was traveling with these ladies. They found
Speaker 1: GSR on his hand, a re a very the amount
Speaker 1: that you lee with when you fire weapon. Okay, they
Speaker 1: didn't charge him with attempted murder. They didn't charge him
Speaker 1: with assault with a deli weapon. They charged him with
Speaker 1: these really simple charges that are easy to prove.
Speaker 2: Sure didn't I saw something briefly in passing on like
Speaker 2: the bullshit internet, which might be right, might not be right.
Speaker 5: I don't know that. Did another girl in the car
Speaker 5: claim that she shot the gun?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: Okay it so that's really we're going to get there.
Speaker 4: I got you. So whatever Meghan did, people just hate
Speaker 4: her mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And Pete, I'd consider myself a thinking person. I'm a thinker.
Speaker 1: I really will take time to think. I will take
Speaker 1: time to read and research. I have no problem with it. Sure,
Speaker 1: every last thing I've tried to think about is because
Speaker 1: she's dark skinned. May Yeah, she's right, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you how I'm gona get to that, how I
Speaker 1: got to that.
Speaker 4: But don't like her.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's why they probably don't like her.
Speaker 1: But what makes you think everybody don't.
Speaker 5: Darker than me or darker than you.
Speaker 4: Well or me.
Speaker 6: She's probably between me and you.
Speaker 4: Let me.
Speaker 6: Let me, let me get to the point. Let me
Speaker 6: get to the point.
Speaker 1: So because everybody is saying they're upset with her because
Speaker 1: she got this guy put in jail, even though the
Speaker 1: case is the case is really simple, and Stevie Wonder
Speaker 1: could see he was gonna be convicted of these charges.
Speaker 1: Funck the court of public criminal at least that's what
Speaker 1: they're saying. They're saying they're mad at her because she
Speaker 1: got this innocent man locked up her best friend.
Speaker 4: Her the best friend shot her.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm like, even when you visit that, you're like, so,
Speaker 1: let me get this right. Tory goes to jail like
Speaker 1: he put out a message to Jason Lee. Jason Lee
Speaker 1: is like the host of Hollywood a lot, cool dude
Speaker 1: in the boxing, Why fuck with him? And Jason Lee says, oh,
Speaker 1: toy sent me a text and he's protecting black women.
Speaker 4: Then what are you doing now?
Speaker 1: If your goal is to keep Tory and Megan out
Speaker 1: of jail, then why are you trying to get them
Speaker 1: put in jail now?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Which that don't make sense, but I entertained it for
Speaker 6: the thought.
Speaker 1: But they're all supposed to be mad because Megan, I've heard,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a slut, y'all, was just going to
Speaker 1: Amber Roses slut walk three four years ago. Then she
Speaker 1: told y'all, y'all motherfuckers is stupid for going there. Out
Speaker 1: don't know the only thing that I could come up
Speaker 1: with is she looks like a sister.
Speaker 6: She's dark.
Speaker 1: Yet Cassie, who is pretty much responsible for the same
Speaker 1: exact fucking thing.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, getting this dude put in prison for the
Speaker 3: rest of his life. Trump Puff could get life in
Speaker 3: prison because he dragged Cassie to the floor and kicked
Speaker 3: her in the ass.
Speaker 1: Like, no matter what we say about the video, I
Speaker 1: looked at the video again, the whole context.
Speaker 6: He dragged her to the floor and kicked her in
Speaker 6: the ass.
Speaker 4: That's not cool.
Speaker 1: But you shouldn't get life for dragging your old lad
Speaker 1: to the floor and kicking her in the ass, Right,
Speaker 1: But I noticed nobody's upset with Cassie at all. Even
Speaker 1: as shout out to Inner City Press on Twitter, y'all
Speaker 1: follow that person if you're listening to this podcast at
Speaker 1: Inner City Inner with two ends, I n n R
Speaker 1: City Press. He's doing transcripts of the whole case. And
Speaker 1: it's really great because I know a lot of us
Speaker 1: that that consume hip hop, right, all of us that
Speaker 1: consume hip hop, and I mean we do have our
Speaker 1: media outlets, and in the media outlets, even though they
Speaker 1: may not be hip hop, we follow them because they
Speaker 1: do cover hip hop. Sometimes they'll have one particular thing
Speaker 1: and that'll be like the thing for the next.
Speaker 6: Four hours were talking about.
Speaker 1: Right, But remember the case with Puff is only built
Speaker 1: right because Cassie files her civil suit. That's where the
Speaker 1: case came from. It's not anything before that. When she
Speaker 1: filed a civil suit right to make Puff pay her
Speaker 1: the money she wanted to not put out her book.
Speaker 1: That's how the fans got involved to start investigating. So
Speaker 1: she's just as responsible as.
Speaker 4: Megan would be. For Tori.
Speaker 1: Still, what's going on? We're doing a podcast right that
Speaker 1: you want to jump oncast?
Speaker 4: Still?
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, we're gonna call you soon we finished the podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Still, I gotta hit you up. I gotta email
Speaker 5: back from that lady about the.
Speaker 6: He said he still, So that's why Puff is in jail.
Speaker 1: So when people asking is Cassie had fought, Yes, because
Speaker 1: she filed a civil lawsuit and it made the criminal
Speaker 1: justice system get involved and they thought they missed something
Speaker 1: and they started to investigate, their start witness is Cassie.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's why Puff is in jail because Cassie
Speaker 1: filed this civil suit to get this money. Now the
Speaker 1: charges are trumped up, but rest as sure that's why
Speaker 1: they're there, So she pretty much is responsible for the
Speaker 1: reason Puff.
Speaker 4: Is fighting us.
Speaker 1: But I don't see nobody talking shit to her, Like
Speaker 1: you see a couple people and to me, they're still
Speaker 1: judging the same thing. They're trying to judge her morality. Ah,
Speaker 1: she let some strangers sleep with her and nott on her,
Speaker 1: you know, and rub it on Puff, or she peede
Speaker 1: in the mouth or stuff that I don't even care about,
Speaker 1: Like I don't look.
Speaker 4: I think them people on drugs.
Speaker 1: And when you're on drugs, you come up, like most
Speaker 1: of these rappers, some of the stuff that y'all think
Speaker 1: is the shit ain't the shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when you get on again, some of the rappers
Speaker 1: y'all listen to, they be on that dope, so they
Speaker 1: come up with all kinds of crazy shit. Well I
Speaker 1: would imagine if you're on that dope when you in
Speaker 1: some sex shit, you probably come up with some crast
Speaker 1: ship too, your fuck around be sleeping hitting your old lady.
Speaker 4: With a carrot.
Speaker 6: Is Tory lanes light skinned. Tory Lanez is Canadian, So.
Speaker 3: He's a brother, Okay, because you said the difference, and
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like I'm comparing Cassie. How come she's
Speaker 3: not a victim, but yet Cassie is a victim, like
Speaker 3: Meg got shot in her foot, but she's still not
Speaker 3: a victim.
Speaker 4: That seems like.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Cassie, no matter what, they her as a victim,
Speaker 3: but mag got shot in the motherfucking filled I was
Speaker 3: just asking, like, is he light skinned? And it's a
Speaker 3: dark light thing because he's light skinning. Megan's dark because
Speaker 3: Cassie's light And I don't think he is dark.
Speaker 5: Because I'm in the minority. I don't think Megan's dark.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, compared to Cassie, Megan is black. As you
Speaker 1: might be biased.
Speaker 2: I I'm just looking at pictures of the two of
Speaker 2: them next to each other, you know, like they have
Speaker 2: the collages of pictures.
Speaker 5: She's a slightly lighter, but I'll put them in the second.
Speaker 1: But she way darker compared to Cassie. Megan is darker,
Speaker 1: way darker.
Speaker 2: One thing I'll say about Cassie, the older she gets,
Speaker 2: the more money she gets, the lighter she gets her
Speaker 2: younger pictures versus her recent pictures, because there's more lighting
Speaker 2: thrust upon her. I'm just saying, with age, that's just
Speaker 2: what I'm looking at and as I'm just looking like.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, a lot of them dark skinning
Speaker 3: the girls and they did get oh, I get lighter.
Speaker 5: It's like the reverse Michael Jordan effect.
Speaker 1: Well, me and Peter talked about this before that women
Speaker 1: tend to do their makeup lighter.
Speaker 4: To show to make their face look lighter. Okay, so
Speaker 4: it's makeup they doing.
Speaker 1: The initial idea was to make them look like they're
Speaker 1: not out in the sun doing the work, even though
Speaker 1: that's changed today to some degree. Now it everybody's getting
Speaker 1: a tan, so they're vacationing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And when I.
Speaker 2: Would say with the black community, there's a certain premium
Speaker 2: on being exotically mixed with something which usually would indicate
Speaker 2: or result in you being slightly lighter. And like you
Speaker 2: see that, like girls claim that they're mixed with god
Speaker 2: knows what they're like, maybe possibly ambiguously one sixteenth Chinese
Speaker 2: and they say.
Speaker 5: They're blazing or whatever it might be them all the time,
Speaker 5: I said, every.
Speaker 1: Day, that's true. So the only thing I could come
Speaker 1: up with is that Cassie is lighter and Megan is black.
Speaker 1: I think if they both are response.
Speaker 5: And one you hear about. I think if you had
Speaker 5: a video.
Speaker 2: Where you could discernibly see the damage to that foot,
Speaker 2: people would be like Jesus Christ, like she's walking or whatever,
Speaker 2: like she stumbles out of the thing and she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, hemorrhaging blood out the foot.
Speaker 6: I'm not mad at that. So you may maybe if.
Speaker 2: You see a girl get popped, people get all funny.
Speaker 2: But you heard about it, It's like, eh, yeah.
Speaker 6: But if she would be missing toes and like she
Speaker 6: had a hole in.
Speaker 1: Her foot or something, you know, they would have charged
Speaker 1: way more. Somebody would have really got messed up toys
Speaker 1: in jail. Because so I'll be honest with you, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I am, I've been charged with a lot of
Speaker 1: crimes in California, definitely double digits at this point, I
Speaker 1: haven't had to fought double digit cases.
Speaker 6: Some of the cases kind of end up getting thrown out.
Speaker 1: But I've been in jail double digits times, fighting cases,
Speaker 1: double of litigation. No, no, no, I ain't gonna do all
Speaker 1: that because they gonna for sure day.
Speaker 3: The way they will try to pull shit up forty
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but what I am is they charged him light.
Speaker 1: He went to jail because antagonizing the state of California.
Speaker 1: What you mean, That's why Tory Lanez is in jail.
Speaker 4: I was antagonizing them.
Speaker 1: He had his press saying that the state of California
Speaker 1: and Rock Nation was coming after him.
Speaker 2: Hm.
Speaker 6: And California is very much, you know, media savvy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the media and anti gun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: If you talking about I was gonna get to that.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about California as a state, media, they
Speaker 1: don't play with their reputation.
Speaker 6: It ain't just it ain't just black La some gang
Speaker 6: banger ship.
Speaker 1: State of California, the city of Los Angelesten, the state
Speaker 1: of California does not play about their repute.
Speaker 2: Really, California is the fiftieth rated state out of fifty
Speaker 2: for business friendly climate from a legal standpoint. From a
Speaker 2: media standpoint, it is number one out of fifty.
Speaker 6: Say that again for him.
Speaker 2: For the cumulative economy, California is the fiftieth least business
Speaker 2: friendly state.
Speaker 6: So out of have it, the heart is here hardest.
Speaker 5: But if your media best first out of fifty.
Speaker 3: So California is like a gang banger they are, they
Speaker 3: will do some things to you over their reputation. They
Speaker 3: will do some things to you over.
Speaker 1: Their reputation, and Torri was fucking with the reputation. They say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make an example out of you.
Speaker 3: And then also discharging of firearming.
Speaker 1: You can get caught in California with a gun and
Speaker 1: you won't even go to jail. You can get a
Speaker 1: probation multiple times. They won't put you in prison. Oh
Speaker 1: you can have the gun. You know, we gonna that's
Speaker 1: not right, We're gonna get it.
Speaker 4: No, you shoot it. They don't care if you shot
Speaker 4: it in the air.
Speaker 6: You're going to prison, not jail.
Speaker 4: That that hard on shooting guns. You shoot a.
Speaker 1: Gun around this mother, you're going to prison. You discharge
Speaker 1: a gun, and city limits and all that, they not
Speaker 1: plan about that.
Speaker 2: I've never fired a gun in California, but I have
Speaker 2: in Arizona and Nevada just in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Just get just driving, just get out. Oh there's like
Speaker 2: a sand embankment.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just put some.
Speaker 2: Up just just because I'm out here, not in California.
Speaker 4: You do that. So Tory fucked up there. Toy fucked up.
Speaker 1: Tory fucked up because he decided, like you know, he
Speaker 1: was gonna make a fool out of this state, in
Speaker 1: this city, and the charges was discharging the firearms.
Speaker 6: It's somebody got hurt.
Speaker 1: Now, Megan didn't get no bullet through her feet or nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, but the bullets you know it caused damn it,
Speaker 1: because why do you get hit.
Speaker 5: The foots only about an inch stick? Like what happened?
Speaker 4: He didn't, she didn't get hit. She called a she
Speaker 4: called a rigochet or the fragments and.
Speaker 5: Fragment or like a hollow tip fragment popper in the foot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they wasn't in again. I watched the case
Speaker 1: and watched it from like how it was happening. They
Speaker 1: weren't trying to he started using it. He was trying
Speaker 1: to have his Tupac moment, like he keeps trying to
Speaker 1: have his Tupac moment. Stop antagonizing these people. Now, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is you're doing?
Speaker 4: Bro? You are black.
Speaker 2: If you want a Tupac moment, take your Tupac in there,
Speaker 2: take your time and come out and be pistol.
Speaker 4: He's not. He's Canadian. He don't know how this American works.
Speaker 5: Fucking that's a topic in the in and of itself
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 3: You know, and minus the American part. It's California with this.
Speaker 5: That's like.
Speaker 4: In New York.
Speaker 6: If you get caught with a gun, you're in the prison.
Speaker 4: Just the gun itself.
Speaker 1: If you woul discharge a gun, yeah you you you
Speaker 1: get multiple I know, it's like that in d C.
Speaker 4: D C's really fucked like that.
Speaker 1: California is very liberal on gun even though they got
Speaker 1: some of the worst gun laws.
Speaker 4: They're very pretty liberal. You see, they getting like years
Speaker 4: for each bulley and shit that's in the gun.
Speaker 2: All about laws, and it's crazy, not about law enforcement
Speaker 2: writing them down.
Speaker 5: They don't like enforcing them.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make some money. So Tory would have shut up.
Speaker 4: He probably would have got charged with all these charges.
Speaker 1: Tory would have probably did eighteen he'd have got eighteen months.
Speaker 1: He'd have been home in about three and deported and
Speaker 1: then he could have worked it out, spent his money
Speaker 1: and came back.
Speaker 4: So what do you do now? How much you getting? Now?
Speaker 4: Ten years?
Speaker 1: They gave him every bit of time, because you're fucking
Speaker 1: with these people who care about the reputation. These people
Speaker 1: care about that reputation. I mean, the lady is unimportant.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck about Megan.
Speaker 3: Oh you talking about us, and they start naming the DA,
Speaker 3: they start naming the d O. Who's fought You think
Speaker 3: Dad is Tory? Are his his people that market?
Speaker 6: So his public is my partner.
Speaker 4: I can't believe my Mady.
Speaker 3: Ain't this motherfucking crazy.
Speaker 1: She might be though Madi is a cold She's one
Speaker 1: of the best, but you gotta know you can see.
Speaker 1: And that's where it comes down to this real crippt
Speaker 1: because I for sut them, like Mady, the these motherfucking
Speaker 1: people alone. Don't fuck with California, fuck with Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Let's work these deals in the back. Do not make
Speaker 1: these people look crazy. If you make these people look crazy,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a fool out of you, like a cryp.
Speaker 1: Don't embarrass me, don't embarrass me. Don't do that. That's
Speaker 1: how California is in Los Angeles. Do not play with
Speaker 1: these people reputation. But the point I'm saying is they
Speaker 1: blame Megan for Toy go on jail, and then Toy
Speaker 1: just got stabbed.
Speaker 4: H this is another story.
Speaker 3: But again now they're blaming Megan, but Tory getting stabbed,
Speaker 3: and then Tory is disseminating information like yeah, I'm just
Speaker 3: protecting two black women.
Speaker 4: But if you protect the two systems, full shut up,
Speaker 4: walk the time off. Yeah, true, facts, facts, but I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Say that again.
Speaker 5: We live in the age of the coward and martyr.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, wow, heavy Pete.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 2: I mean you see it all the time, like people
Speaker 2: want to go out, Oh I'm and while they're doing it,
Speaker 2: I'm so brave.
Speaker 5: I'm standing up to the system.
Speaker 2: And then the system shows you why you have to
Speaker 2: be brave to do that, and it's tears across America.
Speaker 6: Oh that's Kaepernick.
Speaker 5: That's Kaepernick.
Speaker 2: It's those white judges that smuggled the illegals around and
Speaker 2: then got arrested and claimed, Oh.
Speaker 5: Well, which one is it? Are you a rebel or
Speaker 5: are you a punk? You can't be. I mean you
Speaker 5: can be both. You just look like an idiot.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel what I look like complaining about
Speaker 1: laws as an outlaw. Yeah, I only get on people
Speaker 1: when i'm talking when I'm like, when I'm mad about
Speaker 1: r Kelly getting more than twelve years or thirteen years
Speaker 1: for the crimes, because that's what they called for. I'm
Speaker 1: telling the people me, I don't got nothing to say, so.
Speaker 4: Outlaw worry about rights. No, so whatever happen happens, life
Speaker 4: we live.
Speaker 3: If you're an outlaw, but you don't want the innocent
Speaker 3: people get caught up in this bullshit.
Speaker 4: I'm questioning the other people that's not like me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. You don't want those people.
Speaker 3: I'm not finna write a letter R. I didn't fuck
Speaker 3: with R Kelly before he went to jail. I'm not
Speaker 3: a fucking fan of R.
Speaker 4: Kelly, but R Kelly is really isn't an outlaw?
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, I'm calling it everybody else out if
Speaker 3: the fuck what happened on I Kelly outside?
Speaker 4: He's a brother. But my question to everybody else is,
Speaker 4: how are y'all okay with this?
Speaker 1: Like puff, how are y'all okay with this this?
Speaker 4: This is supposed to be y'all calling card.
Speaker 3: He ain't killed nobody, he ain't rob nobody, he ain't
Speaker 3: did no outlass shit. No, he just party freakingly. And
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it is the word. I'm finnah,
Speaker 3: stop calling that shit a free.
Speaker 4: That niggas, but I just I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: He ain't did nothing that deserves twenty forty fifty years
Speaker 3: in prison life.
Speaker 6: Fuck that theyre trying to get Puff life.
Speaker 4: You know, Ell, he's not an outlaw like that.
Speaker 6: No, he not even a threat to society. Not like
Speaker 6: when Puff came in the room.
Speaker 2: They had to jump on all of this because he
Speaker 2: spent money on the company credit card. And they're saying
Speaker 2: because he used a company credit card that paid for
Speaker 2: drugs and also paid for security. Thereby it is that's
Speaker 2: basically it instead of personal credit card.
Speaker 5: Effectively, Yes, okay, this is what I think.
Speaker 4: It's brilliant lawyery.
Speaker 5: Whoever is brilliant lawyering for like a second year law.
Speaker 4: Student you think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't give credit if they could turn Puffed
Speaker 1: Daddy and John Gotti how like you not much work
Speaker 1: that way now.
Speaker 4: But you said it's pretty It's really easy to do.
Speaker 5: That's easy to shop. Anybody can forum shop a ship
Speaker 5: judge in a ship district.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool to get in front of a court.
Speaker 1: To get in front of a judge, how do you
Speaker 1: convince them? How How is the public gassed up to
Speaker 1: think that they removing a threat from the streets.
Speaker 4: I don't think they are right now.
Speaker 3: I think I think that I think everybody's looking at
Speaker 3: him winning.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting from from the marketing standpoint, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you make because now the other thing, there's two we're
Speaker 1: looking and there's two.
Speaker 5: Things happening in America in recent years.
Speaker 2: One coward martyrs and two everyone's a sexual predatory. Any
Speaker 2: anybody who's not fucking missionary their wife is some sort
Speaker 2: of weird predator freak.
Speaker 3: You're right, and you have a bunch of social media
Speaker 3: people trying to act like that that they're more That's
Speaker 3: what I was cousin tramp bout.
Speaker 2: Accept the women who sell pussy through the dms, because
Speaker 2: the all they do is professionally towerk in front of
Speaker 2: their cell phone.
Speaker 5: Oh god damn day. They're excluded. They're the victims.
Speaker 4: It is weird, man.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's my point. If you're so mad
Speaker 1: mad at Megan. So when I'm starting to believe Megan's
Speaker 1: publicist is nowhere as good as.
Speaker 4: It's Tories.
Speaker 1: And Hassis publicis, we're not even assets publishers. The federal
Speaker 1: government's publicist is unbelievable. But maybe Megan's publicist, you know,
Speaker 1: we're smarter like lead us alone. Let it go know,
Speaker 1: because they had her do some ship that I like,
Speaker 1: that was dumb, Like what what happened?
Speaker 4: She went and did Gail's show talked about it. Look
Speaker 4: in general, yeah, you just.
Speaker 2: View of saying, let's go to work for Kamala Harris's
Speaker 2: presidential campaign.
Speaker 5: This is this is not a chessboard operation.
Speaker 1: And that's why I know it's real because it ain't
Speaker 1: really too much marketing on that end.
Speaker 4: Mh.
Speaker 1: But again it also makes me think about storytelling, Like again,
Speaker 1: if this whole world is all about shaping stories. They
Speaker 1: have convinced the general public that Puff is John Gotti
Speaker 1: like that Puff was a threat to the health of society.
Speaker 3: But you think Puff tried to lead that life before
Speaker 3: all this like a mobster type, you know persona.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I always thought that I never got that I did
Speaker 3: my first start, you know, yeah, I never.
Speaker 1: Got Puff was like a mobster Like I saw Puff
Speaker 1: make like little things with albums like Puffing No Way
Speaker 1: Out they standing.
Speaker 4: But I don't think nobody.
Speaker 3: At twenty years ago when he first came out, that's
Speaker 3: the kind of persona I thought of him. But then
Speaker 3: as time went on, he just became something else.
Speaker 4: To me.
Speaker 3: I never got tough and puffed together I got him
Speaker 3: trying to be tough twenty years ago when we first
Speaker 3: came into the industry where you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: try to be like the mob person, like the boss.
Speaker 4: Well he was the boss. He was the CEO of
Speaker 4: a label. Yeah, real quick.
Speaker 2: So is part of that due too, and is there
Speaker 2: any traction to it anyway?
Speaker 5: But like the like the rumor that.
Speaker 2: Puff was like shuffling back door money to the crips
Speaker 2: to try to get to poker some people to death,
Speaker 2: throw shot or try to stoke flames locally and the
Speaker 2: Compton Street politics scene, what however, you wanted to find
Speaker 2: you know, is it because it seemed like that came
Speaker 2: up again when what's his name? Uh, his trial happened.
Speaker 2: The other guy in the car forgot his name. Like
Speaker 2: I seen pieces that he was like sort of validating
Speaker 2: some of that ship. You know that I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the other guy in the car, not Orlando or yeah.
Speaker 5: That guy.
Speaker 1: No, none of these two things got none. But but
Speaker 1: I think I don't know, maybe it's the crippen I
Speaker 1: just never got put in tough together. Dud dude does
Speaker 1: the average everyday American looking puff as he's like because
Speaker 1: he makes rap songs like he's like on some tough shit.
Speaker 2: I think, do you think there's a difference between he's
Speaker 2: tough and he's.
Speaker 5: Because you could probably not.
Speaker 2: Be tough to have the money and the means to
Speaker 2: outsource toughness.
Speaker 4: I don't think I got that from Puff.
Speaker 1: Like, like, even when I used to listen to people
Speaker 1: talk about the whole Tupac thing, when they thought he
Speaker 1: had something to do with Tupac, everybody still thought he.
Speaker 4: Was a coward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if they told the story like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he can pay for Tupac to get.
Speaker 5: Hurt, but if that's true, you can still be a
Speaker 5: coward of the checkbook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still don't think people would have saw
Speaker 1: him the people that catch John Gotti.
Speaker 6: People thought John Gotty was tough.
Speaker 1: People thought Whitey Bolgie was tough, Like most people who
Speaker 1: catch ricos. There's a genuine fear in the population about
Speaker 1: this person.
Speaker 5: Fair.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I never got Puff and tough.
Speaker 2: Puff is closer to like that big poly guy or
Speaker 2: whatever his name was, the tall dude that god he
Speaker 2: got the got he shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But but but but again, I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Even say I'm saying on the spectrum. I'm not saying
Speaker 5: he's like that. That guy, just do.
Speaker 3: You think put people around him that had a tough persona.
Speaker 3: I mean I think he had security guard. Don't talk
Speaker 3: about even as artists, you think it's artist going about
Speaker 3: a tougher because bad Boy was the opposite of death
Speaker 3: rop so that I thought bad Boy wasn't a tough persona. No,
Speaker 3: it's a little baby, but de Road is a tough persona.
Speaker 4: It's death romates.
Speaker 3: Okay, so bad boys wouldn't be another term for like
Speaker 3: East Coast Wales saying no, you know, I mean big.
Speaker 5: Seem kind of you know, like.
Speaker 1: He was a gangster repper like people don't feel okay,
Speaker 1: general public can Like I heard, I'm working on the
Speaker 1: marketing and this is what got me in this conversation.
Speaker 1: Like I was working on the marketing for the song.
Speaker 1: Me and Trapp was talking, Me and Hommies was talking today,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, oh, to reinforce a point, right,
Speaker 1: to reinforce a point, we need to use Instagram to
Speaker 1: its fullest potential. So if they have slides, maybe my
Speaker 1: thing makes this one point the content we made right, yes,
Speaker 1: one point content, then we can add other content pieces
Speaker 1: like videos that reinforce the point. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: we're not using these social media platforms to their fullest capabilities.
Speaker 1: And this time I am. I'm not finna, I'm not missing.
Speaker 1: We're not missing this time. We're gonna use all of
Speaker 1: this too. So, for example, if one of the captions
Speaker 1: is what has did the West Coast hurt or benefit hip?
Speaker 3: Hop?
Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to make sure I got multiple pieces
Speaker 1: of content and that same content that you could slide
Speaker 1: over to reinforce the point.
Speaker 4: So did it hurt or health? We're not eve gonna
Speaker 4: talk about that because that's the point.
Speaker 6: That's something for later.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, I'm saying, but instead of having that
Speaker 3: one piece of content that we created to generate that conversation,
Speaker 3: I'm going to reinforce it. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 3: how did you view growing up uh East Coast gangs?
Speaker 3: Because like I grew growing up thinking like the equivalent
Speaker 3: of West Coast gangs was like Biggie and them guys.
Speaker 3: The way they did their gangs, it was more like
Speaker 3: monster type, you know, workings with the you know, organizational
Speaker 3: and things like that versus the West Coast. So I
Speaker 3: always start them guys in their gangs try to model
Speaker 3: the monsters and stuff. Always when I was growing up,
Speaker 3: but now days are changed now this time and stuff.
Speaker 1: But you don't see the racism in that. Like when
Speaker 1: you said the mobsters, the monsters like they're not gangsters.
Speaker 4: Like people don't know.
Speaker 3: I said, that's the version of gangsters I see emulating
Speaker 3: white people.
Speaker 4: I guess that have to be that way. But because it.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be anything different, it ain't like it ain't like
Speaker 3: it ain't like mafias and mobs are any different than gangs.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying there's different.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they modeled that that attire or that
Speaker 3: ways as over here.
Speaker 4: To me, it is different. We don't so again me
Speaker 4: to take on names of old monsters.
Speaker 1: So if you ask me about Okay, so there's the
Speaker 1: real New York street games.
Speaker 6: Okay, they're the same. They don't look like mob moves.
Speaker 1: They just regular brothers from New York, the the hip
Speaker 1: hop guys from the eighties. That's how gangsters dress post
Speaker 1: run DMC. They didn't dress in suits and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: stand on the corner in hard bottoms and the doors
Speaker 1: and shit. That's not New York is just like LA.
Speaker 1: It's street guys. They got their own sections, they do
Speaker 1: their own thing. So that was just for visuals then,
Speaker 1: So what happened is this the way we decided to
Speaker 1: entertain with hip hop. Our entertainment is really based off
Speaker 1: of what was going on where we were from. But
Speaker 1: we also had the benefit of Hollywood to tell everybody
Speaker 1: this loose idea. Like we had Colors before in Wa
Speaker 1: came out. We had boys in the hood before Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg came out. You know you could see, you know,
Speaker 1: you could see the Ice Tea was doing the rap
Speaker 1: for Colors, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So then when you see you say he was in Breaking, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Ice Team was in Breaking. Yeah you said in Breaking
Speaker 4: way back then, like damn so Ice Team was probably
Speaker 4: twenty five.
Speaker 3: But you said that was in LA. That happened, Breaking
Speaker 3: happened in Venice Beach. Yeah, it's at Venice Beach Breaking.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is so they look to entertain
Speaker 1: more with things that you were familiar with, at least
Speaker 1: the better people. Wu Tang was very much just New York.
Speaker 1: I mean, they wasn't the Smooth Brothers in New York.
Speaker 1: They was just the brothers in New York. This is
Speaker 1: how the brothers in the streets moved in Staten Island.
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 1: But then when you got the Puff and Bigg and them,
Speaker 1: they did kind of model. They wanted the world to
Speaker 1: see them as gangsters and instead of just kind of projecting.
Speaker 3: Street New York. Okay, because mob and my mafia gree
Speaker 3: stills like the Streets.
Speaker 1: Peachtreet some reason always affiliate them with New York anyway,
Speaker 1: and they tried to warp.
Speaker 2: Time, you know, like when you see the surveillance footage
Speaker 2: of all like Italian mobsters outside the little their little
Speaker 2: meeting hangout spots, there are a bunch of fat asses.
Speaker 5: Wearing sweatsuits all damn day long.
Speaker 2: But you only see them on television going in and
Speaker 2: out of court wearing a suit. You wear suit to court,
Speaker 2: snoop board suits court. So they try to prop b
Speaker 2: ig up suit and a hat and the canle that
Speaker 2: should look like Bumpy Johnson from Yester generation, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like dressing up like it's nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: Five, because that was the closest thing the general popp
Speaker 1: I think so from a marketing perspective and as a
Speaker 1: storyteller and not understanding more. They understood that's all they saw.
Speaker 1: Like jay Z did the same thing. Jay z early
Speaker 1: stuff is a lot of suits. And I said, because
Speaker 1: they kind of gave off that vibe back, he gave
Speaker 1: more interesting in the beginning.
Speaker 5: I mean, the name of the group on Bad Boy
Speaker 5: was Junior Mafia for christ.
Speaker 4: But it's all entertaining.
Speaker 1: But I don't think none of us took them s
Speaker 1: as Black America took them serious as mafia. Fact, all
Speaker 1: of us, even in the eighties and nineties knew that
Speaker 1: was some white people shit, you know. I mean, mafia,
Speaker 1: do not be fucking with no brothers. Ain't no brothers
Speaker 1: in no mafias. I mean except we talking about nine
Speaker 1: to nine or Main Street, the black ones, the one
Speaker 1: that's not quite what we're thinking.
Speaker 6: Ain't not the Gambino family like they was.
Speaker 4: That's what I said.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't believe they object. I think they wanted
Speaker 1: to project. And this is kind of what makes me
Speaker 1: upset when I had that conversation, Like if I'm listening
Speaker 1: to the Special less say the n w A ushered
Speaker 1: in the destruction hip hop. They said in w A
Speaker 1: or Wu Tang and it was like or Wu Tang
Speaker 1: for the children. That's a slogan. Wu Tang was as
Speaker 1: gangster as nw A on every level. They actually might
Speaker 1: have been worse. Wu Tang is the real deal. It
Speaker 1: was when you got knowledge from Wu Tang, you got
Speaker 1: knowledge from n w A. Express yourself is very much knowledge.
Speaker 1: Fuck the police is very much knowledge. But it's how
Speaker 1: they see the rapping. It's how they see the brand
Speaker 1: of it all. They understand their street. They don't understand
Speaker 1: our street. So you're asking them about it. So I
Speaker 1: think when back to the PuF point and comparing it
Speaker 1: what he wanted to project, they still wanted to project
Speaker 1: masculinity through toughness.
Speaker 4: But they knew the things.
Speaker 1: That we would remember when it came to New York
Speaker 1: was either the warriors or the mafia.
Speaker 4: You want to dress the warriors. You got the warriors
Speaker 4: in that's what you thought of New York Street.
Speaker 1: The only thing you saw if you lived on the
Speaker 1: West coast, What New York Street thing did you see?
Speaker 4: Besides you know what New York Street?
Speaker 1: Warriors desses on a little nice little vesses with the
Speaker 1: little talents, And I don't think we would have thought
Speaker 1: that was gangster.
Speaker 5: More malnursed group of street fighters in your life.
Speaker 4: The tight bell bottoms and stuff around, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. Imagine, imagine imagine Big when it
Speaker 3: came out with that. Imagine being when it came out
Speaker 3: dressed like silence from the Warriors.
Speaker 4: I don't know if oh oh dude.
Speaker 3: You might get away recreate that movie now, but imagine,
Speaker 3: but imagine that though people Warriors, Grandmaster make Warriors.
Speaker 4: Man, did you see Warriors? Pete? Yeah?
Speaker 5: What's his name?
Speaker 4: The fuck.
Speaker 2: Look still look like that though, like one the weird
Speaker 2: guy like grand after Flasher who did the message.
Speaker 4: Oh Melly mail, Oh yeah, ye do look like the Warriors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looked like the Warriors.
Speaker 4: To this day.
Speaker 1: You're imagine somebody in nineteen ninety three on the whole
Speaker 1: cruise like that that came out just like the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Right, Baseball Furies they've been dressed like that. They actually
Speaker 4: got a pencil like the Baseball Furies hip to see see. No,
Speaker 4: but that's just started. That's what they was the game.
Speaker 4: See they got a bad way picture wearing baseballs.
Speaker 3: Now, they probably based off the Warriors the baseball but
Speaker 3: imagine it came out.
Speaker 4: What was what was the main crew. Uh, what was it,
Speaker 4: Pete what main crew? The main crew that that that
Speaker 4: was trying to get back.
Speaker 5: They were called the warriors.
Speaker 4: That was water. So imagine like they came out just
Speaker 4: like that. That's funny.
Speaker 3: I never thought manly male looked like warriors looked like
Speaker 3: dress like that. Yeah, they all dressed cind of like that.
Speaker 3: That's I was a tribal thing, you know. I thought
Speaker 3: it was more tribal things. But remember now thinking about it.
Speaker 1: But remember the warriors come out seventy nine and the
Speaker 1: ship you know, I think it was tribal goes back
Speaker 1: to warriors.
Speaker 6: I gotta go when I go back to New York,
Speaker 6: double back on some of my three hommies and politics that.
Speaker 4: Questions, what is it about the native look? Why do
Speaker 4: we think this is a native look that you guys
Speaker 4: are winning? Yeah, because that's what I thought, like, damn,
Speaker 4: they're doing like a native thing. But then you said
Speaker 4: the warriors, Like, no, they was doing that. The warriors
Speaker 4: were in the feathers and head bands and each warriors
Speaker 4: of a native word.
Speaker 2: But but I think that's what they meant. They were warriors,
Speaker 2: like like Indian tribal warriors. So that's that's why they
Speaker 2: dressed that way. Different groups dressed like their entities throughout.
Speaker 4: The Yeah, I think that's more feasible thinking about it, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's really what it was, because they was going
Speaker 3: to They was all going to a power wow. That's
Speaker 3: what it is, a power wow where you know, all
Speaker 3: the tribes come together like a fest festival.
Speaker 6: They were all going to that that power wow.
Speaker 2: Let's say hypothetically, the Brims got their name because they
Speaker 2: wore brimmed hats, you know, versus other groups that didn't.
Speaker 2: They stood out. They you know, that was their theme.
Speaker 2: The warriors were gonna dress kind of like.
Speaker 5: You know, commands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that, so so I think so
Speaker 1: to your point, I digress. That's what I think with Puff.
Speaker 1: I don't think people saw Puff and Wu Tang as
Speaker 1: the same type of threat. But I also think because
Speaker 1: New York was aware of the essence of their street ship.
Speaker 1: So somebody like cool Mod you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: the Legend and Pioneer and ed special ed shout out
Speaker 1: to the Pioneer, and they didn't understand the depth of
Speaker 1: what Nwa was talking about. We're speaking another language, like
Speaker 1: we all have loose interpretations on English, but they hear
Speaker 1: it as like kill kill death, Like I hear people
Speaker 1: do it all the time when they listen to drill music.
Speaker 4: They're like all them people just talking about I'm like,
Speaker 4: you can't hear more like I here.
Speaker 1: Why black people talking about surviving sitting in the middle
Speaker 1: of war, trying to be the solutions, the biggest trooper,
Speaker 1: trying to stand up get a rep I don't don't
Speaker 1: hear homicidal maniac.
Speaker 4: I don't hear we killing just for no reason.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I always say this, but I
Speaker 1: don't think like the John Wayne Gacy of hip hop
Speaker 1: would actually do well. Like imagine a rapper coming out
Speaker 1: like I'm killing babies. I'm walking in the house and
Speaker 1: he racking the song I'm about to murder this two
Speaker 1: year old baby. Well, I'm sleeping with me and and
Speaker 1: I'm killing them. That wouldn't be a tight rap.
Speaker 4: Niggas would not be like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: you know what, we kind of had some trying to
Speaker 4: make it work. I think like Hopson would do some
Speaker 4: crazy shit. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the dopest niggas in the world is from Sacramento. Lynch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship ain't working. That shit gonna stop right there.
Speaker 1: Lynch is fire.
Speaker 4: But you you know what I mean, you start, they
Speaker 4: stay on that once that one level, You're.
Speaker 1: Not finna get passed. You're not finna get passed. Brother's
Speaker 1: talking about killing just because it's Tuesday. We gotta at
Speaker 1: least see more.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: I don't think how Technie skate that line.
Speaker 6: That's why he's at that line. But I don't think
Speaker 6: Tech nine is a horror core.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He kind of skates a line, but he's not, like,
Speaker 3: to me, like a horror rapper, but he's kind of
Speaker 3: like you would think he is.
Speaker 1: He actually dropped the most misjudged hip hop artist I've ever.
Speaker 3: He drops a lot of knowledge in what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Before I met him, I thought he was a Satan worshiper.
Speaker 3: I told him that he's real spiritual and ship say,
Speaker 3: if you listen to his music, really listen to it,
Speaker 3: but it don't seem that way the way he presents outside.
Speaker 4: Looking in brand, I was like, man, I remember, was like, man, glance,
Speaker 4: won't you hoo wone like you don't work. Was like,
Speaker 4: you think somebody, I'm like ship that's because.
Speaker 1: Look, but I was so ignorant, and forgive me, give
Speaker 1: me to every legend, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you know you are ignorant, and that's why I kind
Speaker 1: of that was the I threw away all my ignor
Speaker 1: after that, after that meeting Tech and realized how really
Speaker 1: spiritually grounded up, really how much God is in this movement.
Speaker 1: And then I saw it and I not just knew him,
Speaker 1: but saw it and I heard. I finally stopped hearing
Speaker 1: and started listening to what was happening. Seeing I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: I look like a jackass. So I think with Puff,
Speaker 1: I think we didn't. I think with Puff, we didn't
Speaker 1: ever consider him, you know, we didn't ever consider him.
Speaker 4: I didn't consider him tough for anything. Yeah. So the
Speaker 4: fact that the media, the.
Speaker 1: News, that the federal government was able to convince us
Speaker 1: that Puff was that type of threat that he was.
Speaker 4: See, it's one thing with John Gotti.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well just listen, there different types of threats people.
Speaker 2: If it should like there was a threat to like
Speaker 2: smash your head, to shoot.
Speaker 3: You, but that's even different though, I think, should I Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's actual criminals, you know, ship, but Puff ain't.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's just a threat to your
Speaker 5: booty whole. I don't think it's a threat.
Speaker 4: Had justification on the street level to do what he
Speaker 4: was doing.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get every body's perception. Sugar was whooping ass and
Speaker 1: got beat up sometimes shout out.
Speaker 5: To the trated. It's just a different degree of threat.
Speaker 4: But Puff fights.
Speaker 6: It's Drake and J Cole.
Speaker 4: I just I'm not fighting for.
Speaker 3: The gang member players that play for the rams, you know,
Speaker 3: like you know he you know, and fighting for business
Speaker 3: and stuff, and you don't know that, right, you don't
Speaker 3: know that the life the window it was over published
Speaker 3: if that happened.
Speaker 4: But like I said, it's justificaing his things is justified
Speaker 4: fighting J Cole and Great. I just don't think that
Speaker 4: that person is a threat to society.
Speaker 2: I think that the broader threat is if you don't
Speaker 2: sign favorable terms in the contract to Sugar, he's gonna
Speaker 2: dangle you over a balcony until you do, and if
Speaker 2: you if you don't, he's gonna dangle testicles in front
Speaker 2: of your face.
Speaker 4: And they've been doing that for years they've been doing
Speaker 4: that for the beginning, you know, presson. Motherfucker's designed.
Speaker 3: But even then, like I get the perception, it's not true,
Speaker 3: you know, you know the details, you know it's not true. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when I get the perception, yeah, big nigga all that. Yeah, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 4: Gonna take they jumping some dude. You know again, it's
Speaker 4: just slapping motherfuckers. This ship does that take now, don't
Speaker 4: get me wrong, him fighting this old lady is crappy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's not that. Still, don't scare you. Like niggah
Speaker 4: like me around. You wanna catch you give a slap.
Speaker 4: The nigga can like make me you old lady. They
Speaker 4: convinced the world that they like now we go here
Speaker 4: with this John Gotti charge. You're right. He done punched
Speaker 4: her up and gave her three pieces and eight pieces.
Speaker 4: I've seen that shit go down, Like.
Speaker 5: What what You're right?
Speaker 4: That was like, girl, get back here, you tripping. I
Speaker 4: watched my mama said, I watched some niggas fight. They
Speaker 4: my mama, what they ask real squabble between men and
Speaker 4: women that I know a couple of women that really
Speaker 4: do it. Yeah, you gotta fight cousins like that.
Speaker 1: Listen, not trying to downgrade with puff did to this woman.
Speaker 1: He grabbed her by.
Speaker 3: Hood, snatched her back as she's trying to leave, and
Speaker 3: kicked her in the ass while she was crossed over.
Speaker 4: That's wrong.
Speaker 1: It should be a spousal abuse case. But the fact
Speaker 1: that that video has made to side turned him.
Speaker 3: They turned down Gotty, They turned down into kidnapping and
Speaker 3: all kind of ship.
Speaker 4: They kidnap you, No, but they try to do the
Speaker 4: scenario like that. How did that act?
Speaker 3: John Gotti authorized fifty murders on they know they got
Speaker 3: some of them on tape. I get how John Gotti
Speaker 3: is saw as John Gotty, Like that's a threat to
Speaker 3: society that you can get killed fucking with John Gotty.
Speaker 2: It's a philosophical question. Is it any different to kill
Speaker 2: a man than to kill a man's manhood?
Speaker 3: But yeah, but Gusson's got a point got me thinking
Speaker 3: about this. You know, Pete, actually, who who is they
Speaker 3: protected did he from? Like you said with God? Like God,
Speaker 3: you got that nigga shoot anybody in restaurants and you
Speaker 3: nobody's safe.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I say, you know, but when who
Speaker 4: are you are you protecting? That point? You're not protecting
Speaker 4: kids because there's no trimes against kids.
Speaker 5: This is New York or New York.
Speaker 4: Him and him and is he not even together? No
Speaker 4: more like who the fuck is you?
Speaker 5: Right, there's rhetoric and there's reality here.
Speaker 4: You put them in life to protect them, to protect
Speaker 4: people from what.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. There's this that's rhetoric first. Reality, This
Speaker 5: is all the rhetoric. The reality is what is this
Speaker 5: being tried? Eastern New York, New York. Yeah, the two
Speaker 5: most high profile.
Speaker 2: Criminal courts for aspiring ambitious prosecutors in the United States.
Speaker 2: They salivate for the opportunity to get someone high profile there.
Speaker 2: That's why that's where high profile people go to die.
Speaker 2: If you're over there like this. This is not about society.
Speaker 2: It's not about Puff, it's not about any of that ship.
Speaker 2: This is about some guy becoming a name brand within
Speaker 2: the Department of Justice so that in ten years he's
Speaker 2: in the front of Senate trying to get confirmed as
Speaker 2: the Attorney General the United States.
Speaker 1: Or does he go to try to start charging Puff
Speaker 1: ten million dollars to defending to get him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or he's gonna run for you know, senator New
Speaker 2: York or something like that because he's a high profile,
Speaker 2: tough on crime guy. Now everybody knows, Pete.
Speaker 1: I get that from their perspective. Every day I'm less
Speaker 1: mad at that job.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 6: How the fuck did they get the public to go
Speaker 6: for this?
Speaker 2: Because they have because there is still that innate and
Speaker 2: you see it. We've seen it in the last five
Speaker 2: years on full blast Front Street Parade.
Speaker 5: There is still enough.
Speaker 2: Inherent trust in what the government says where there's a
Speaker 2: big enough group of people to believe it. People believe
Speaker 2: the COVID shit, They believe a lot of the Trump accusations.
Speaker 5: Leave this shit. If an authority of that brand with
Speaker 5: the seal.
Speaker 2: On the top of the paperwork says it, there are
Speaker 2: enough people to believe it to make it work.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: But I hear what you're saying, Pete. But I go
Speaker 3: back to what you said during the lunch hour Glasses.
Speaker 3: You know, if people probably would have said something very
Speaker 3: very beginning when the investigation started, I've been saying, you know,
Speaker 3: that's saying I'm going back to what you said. You
Speaker 3: know at the beginning that it might not be the
Speaker 3: same results we see the.
Speaker 4: Way they should have got this. You know, people should
Speaker 4: have been protes okay goes out of line, Yes, but
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3: Listen, but nobody said anything was passive and they just
Speaker 3: ran it through the channels.
Speaker 5: Because they have bound the morality of what you saw
Speaker 5: to the morality of the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So now in the beginning, if you're gonna come out
Speaker 2: and say this shouldn't be a rico, you know you're
Speaker 2: facing down everybody looking at you like.
Speaker 5: You're a pro wife beater, you're your favor of domnastic.
Speaker 5: All the read this.
Speaker 1: Don't have nothing to do with rigo, don't have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with fight the old lady. But I see
Speaker 1: what I see what you say.
Speaker 3: You know, Pete don't have the government's market then playing No,
Speaker 3: he's right, people.
Speaker 6: Know that's all that.
Speaker 4: But but this is my point.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, that's what I go through with R.
Speaker 4: Kelly. Yeah, that's the way it comes off of R. Kelly.
Speaker 6: With the easy matter.
Speaker 3: They just oh whatever, if you just if you consider
Speaker 3: morleyon just whatever anybody do to you is okay your.
Speaker 4: Side with them, you're morally unjust too.
Speaker 5: When you start to see like.
Speaker 2: A post on social media about something happening to like
Speaker 2: a child sex offender. All you see is this like
Speaker 2: crescendo of people trying to like take the moral high
Speaker 2: ground above the previous post.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should kill all of them. They should cast
Speaker 5: right and kill all of them. They should cast right,
Speaker 5: kill and burn all of them. They should like it.
Speaker 2: Just it becomes feverishort people to take an opportunity to
Speaker 2: feel like they're the they're the greatest bastion of you know,
Speaker 2: morality circle punishment of somebody doing something bad.
Speaker 5: It's kind of similar.
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