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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Errators,

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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be, jaymar let me say

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Speaker 2: this man. All week long, it felt like and by

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Speaker 2: the way, even whether it's a fourteen playoff era, twelve

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Speaker 2: team playoff era or whatever, everybody loves to put the

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Speaker 2: cart before the horse. And all I heard all week

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Speaker 2: long was, well, if Indiana loses, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: oh miss should being ahead of them, and Bama should

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Speaker 2: be in ahead of them in Tennessee, and you go

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Speaker 2: on and on down the list and they don't belong.

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Speaker 2: They haven't beaten anybody. Well, Indiana did lose today, but

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Speaker 2: old mislost earlier in the day. I know, Manci and

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Speaker 2: Steve and VJ and Arnie have told you all about

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Speaker 2: it for the last couple hours. But as Steve de

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Speaker 2: Sager just told you, Alabama also losing tonight in Norman

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Speaker 2: to the Oklahoma Sooners. Jmart we have absolute chaos in

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Speaker 2: college football. We can get to whichever team you want,

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Speaker 2: in whatever order you want. By the way, Auburn trying

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Speaker 2: to keep this game alive against Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: Auburn trails thirty one to twenty eight. We can start

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Speaker 2: wherever you want. But I think the important thing to

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Speaker 2: note is you'd think by now we would learn to

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Speaker 2: not overreact to college football playoff hypotheticals with two, three,

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Speaker 2: four weeks left in the season. Yet here we are.

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Speaker 2: We keep doing it, and at just as we thought

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Speaker 2: we had this whole thing figured out, Alabama loses, Old

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Speaker 2: mis loses. Indiana did lose as well, but Indiana was

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Speaker 2: obviously ahead of them in the rankings. Anyway, I'm rambling.

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Speaker 2: I'll toss it right over to you, J Martin.

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Speaker 3: So I've been thinking about this all day and who

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Speaker 3: is deserving, who is most deserving, like in your own head,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, well, it would would have been the

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Speaker 3: Alabama team that beat Georgia. It would have been the

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Speaker 3: Georgia team that beat Tennessee. It would have been the

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Speaker 3: Oregon team that beat Ohio State. It would have been

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Speaker 3: the Ohio State team that beat Indiana, and you could

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Speaker 3: just keep going on and on and on, the Old

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Speaker 3: Miss team that beat Georgia, for example, on all this.

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Speaker 3: Now that there's football that has been played that has

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Speaker 3: knocked a few teams out and has changed a lot

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Speaker 3: of trajectories, but it depends on which version of every

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Speaker 3: team shows up. That's kind of where we are. And

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Speaker 3: it's more so in college football than in just about

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Speaker 3: anywhere else because the margin for error is so huge

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Speaker 3: because these are such young guys, and from week to week,

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Speaker 3: the fluctuation is huge. That Old Miss team a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago dominated Georgia that didn't even look like

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Speaker 3: the same school that like nothing looked the same about

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Speaker 3: that against Florida, like, and this is it. Like we've

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Speaker 3: seen bad losses for a lot of these teams, and

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Speaker 3: so I looked at it today, I thought, man, there's

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Speaker 3: there is a lot of potential for chaos today, and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of potential for chalk. If the teams

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Speaker 3: show up that are supposed to show up, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a pretty boring show when it comes to, you know,

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Speaker 3: trying to make sense of a lot of things. But

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Speaker 3: now we just look at it, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to make of any of this, Like it's such

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Speaker 3: a just crazy scenario to try and look at some

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Speaker 3: of these teams through the through through a magnifying glass

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Speaker 3: that makes sense week to week. It changes. You get

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Speaker 3: high on a team, you overrate a win, then they

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Speaker 3: come back they don't look anywhere near the same. None

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Speaker 3: of this, None of this is it would make sense

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Speaker 3: anywhere except in sports, especially in college football. But we're

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Speaker 3: that really we're gonna look at and say, I don't

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Speaker 3: know that they should have made it, but there's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be anybody else that can be in their spot.

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Speaker 3: So it's fun and flawed at the same time.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's worth noting a game that I

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Speaker 2: And how about this, They are now inside the ten

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Speaker 2: fifty seconds left Texas A and M. They are ranked fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: but obviously they play Texas next week. You think if

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Speaker 2: they win tonight, if they beat Texas, they would go

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Speaker 2: to the SEC championship game. You think that'd be enough

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Speaker 2: to get them into the College Football Playoff. Auburn very

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Speaker 2: much in field goal range. They are inside the ten

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Speaker 2: So let me lay this out. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 2: what the bracket was coming into today. And as always,

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Speaker 2: remember the bracket the ranking is different than the bracket.

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Speaker 2: We have five automatic bids. The top four highest seeded

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Speaker 2: conference champions or in this case, projected conference champions would

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Speaker 2: get a first round by. So again, this isn't the rankings,

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Speaker 2: but this is how the bracket would look. Oregon gets

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Speaker 2: a first round by is a Big ten champ, Texas

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Speaker 2: as the SEC champ, Miami is the ACC champ, Boise

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Speaker 2: As the As the Mountain West Champ, Group of five champ.

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Speaker 2: Okay eight nine game was Bama Notre Dame. Well, Obama lost,

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Speaker 2: you think they're probably out? BYU was projected to be

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve champ. They lost, you think they're out.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State wins obviously takes care of business. The ten

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Speaker 2: to seven game, Old Miss and Indiana both lose. I

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Speaker 2: think Old misses out. It would be hard to make

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Speaker 2: an argument for a three loss Old miss team. They

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Speaker 2: have now lost to two unranked teams, Kentucky and of

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Speaker 2: course earlier today they lose to Florida. Indiana does lose

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Speaker 2: its first game. We know their story, no great wins,

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Speaker 2: Georgia takes care of business. So I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think the bigger picture conversation is that any given week,

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Speaker 2: I do think that any I think all these teams

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Speaker 2: were pretty tired, but they didn't look great against Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: But I mean even today, Texas really couldn't put away

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Speaker 2: I would just say first of all of the losses today,

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Speaker 3: What's their best win the Nebraska blowout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington is six and five, Michigan is six and five.

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Speaker 3: There's something about how they beat Nebraska. That is the

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Speaker 2: No, and I think the argument, I think the argument

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Speaker 2: now for Indiana becomes and I think this kind of

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Speaker 2: becomes a relevant point. And let me be clear, first

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Speaker 2: of all, this is the first year of the twelve

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Speaker 2: committee has said so far. We don't know two sundays

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Speaker 2: from tomorrow, we don't know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you would think that if

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Speaker 2: Indiana takes care of business next week against against Purdue,

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Speaker 2: they would be in as an eleven to one team.

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Speaker 2: Oversay in Alabama that now has three losses, an old

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Speaker 2: Miss team that has three losses, and what I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say about Indiana, You're right, there is no great win.

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Speaker 2: You know again it's Washington, maybe Michigan, who's obviously terrible.

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 2: I think now the strength of Indiana's argument is we

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Speaker 2: have no bad losses because you look at what's it called.

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss has two losses to unranked teams.

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Speaker 3: And all three but all three of their losses are

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Speaker 3: the non playoff teams.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go Alabama two of the

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Speaker 2: three losses to non playoff teams. And so I guess

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Speaker 2: what I would say, maybe it's kind of a moot point.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, assuming Indiana takes care is I can't

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss and Alabama had one out plus Georgia plus Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, there was definitely, in my opinion, a conversation

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Speaker 3: I don't think there should be, because I don't think

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Speaker 3: that you should. I heard Ari Wassman say this, earlier today,

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Speaker 3: fair to penalize Indiana for having to play Ohio State. Sure,

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Speaker 3: like that's literally the only thing that separates them from

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Speaker 3: say they wouldn't have gotten crushed by Ohio State. Also,

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Speaker 3: like right now today, if you said, who's the best

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Speaker 3: because week after week we see a different team. But

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Speaker 3: Ohio State right now, to me, is the best team

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Speaker 3: in college football. Oh they're showing it with the roster.

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Speaker 3: They're playing great football, they're running the ball well, they

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Speaker 3: from a roster construction standpoint, we already know they're the part.

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Speaker 3: I picked Texas before the season to win at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm not backing off that. But if you ask me

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Speaker 2: Very interesting. We can get into that maybe on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the break, but I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: you know, you mentioned you know kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: Indiana being held to that standard. But to me, I

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Speaker 2: still go back to no terrible law. I think it's

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Speaker 2: worth noting with Old Miss and Alabama losing today, you

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Speaker 2: don't think like assuming nothing crazy happens next week, right,

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Speaker 2: like assuming Tennessee doesn't lose to Vandy like those teams

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Speaker 2: Like let me, let me just put it to you

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Speaker 2: this way, And maybe I'm framing the question wrong. This

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out this twelve team playoff ere. Let me

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Speaker 2: ask you a question like what should be the most

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Speaker 2: important thing? Is it great wins? Is it no bad losses?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Auburn has kicked a field goal with

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Speaker 2: five seconds left, thirty one to thirty one. They are

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Speaker 2: M another team, by the way, currently on the outside

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Speaker 2: looking in. But obviously if they if they are to

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Speaker 2: win tonight and they are to beat Texas next week,

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Speaker 2: they would be in the SEC championship game. So you

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Speaker 2: talk about another result that could have big picture ramifications.

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Speaker 2: This is one. We'll keep you updated on that. But

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Speaker 2: back to kind of an Indiana conversation, but again just

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Speaker 2: kind of a big picture conversation, like what does matter

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Speaker 2: to you, J Mart if you were a one person committee,

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Speaker 2: because I look at Indiana, no great wins, we know that,

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Speaker 2: but to their credit, like you said, they've basically destroyed everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be can't miss, and this field is starting

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Speaker 2: three top ten teams fall. Indiana at Ohio State, Florida

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Speaker 3: This is the thing that I asked you in the

433
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Speaker 3: text earlier. So the SEC always gets the benefit of

434
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Speaker 3: the doubt. And I do the show in Nashville and

435
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Speaker 3: I love the SEC. You know that. But are we

436
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Speaker 3: sure the SEC is great or do we have a

437
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Speaker 3: bunch of you know, kind of middling for their league,

438
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: middling teams beating each other, like just because they're beating

439
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Speaker 3: each other, are they beating good teams or all of

440
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Speaker 3: them overvalued? I don't know. I'm not trying to create controversy.

441
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, you look at this, the SEC

442
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Speaker 3: has a bunch of teams that can get beat by

443
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Speaker 3: other SEC teams, And I don't know that that's because

444
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: the league's a meat grinder, or because there's not really

445
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Speaker 3: that like just dominant juggernaut force that you look at

446
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Speaker 3: and say, well, this team is certainly better than all

447
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Speaker 3: the teams in the Midwest or the decent teams anywhere

448
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Speaker 3: else in the country. I don't know that you can

449
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: say that again, because we don't have all the commonality

450
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Speaker 3: when it comes to opponents to really judge this. We

451
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Speaker 3: have teams that are playing entirely different schedules in different

452
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Speaker 3: parts of the country, that have either similar or better records,

453
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Speaker 3: and trying to adjudicate which one of those teams is

454
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Speaker 3: better is I don't even know how you do it.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. Listen, if you ask most

456
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: SEC fans, oh yeah, I know, yeah, no, they would

457
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: tell you no, no, no, no, the league is awesome. I

458
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Speaker 2: actually just said somebody in my Twitter comments saying the

459
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Speaker 2: only bad loss in hypothetically in the SEC this year

460
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Speaker 2: is Mississippi State. I think that's absurd. I think Kentucky

461
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: is a terrible loss for Old miss I think Tennessee

462
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 2: losing at Arkansas increasingly gets worse by the week. What

463
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Speaker 2: I guess I would say is I guess what I

464
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Speaker 2: would say is I think what makes the SEC unique.

465
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Speaker 2: I think the middle and the bottom is better than

466
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Speaker 2: everyone including and obviously this is very specific to the

467
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Speaker 2: Big Ten, specifically the Big Ten. You get past those

468
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: first three four to you know, the Big Ten this

469
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Speaker 2: year is like the SEC used to be, where it's like,

470
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Speaker 2: by the end of the year it was like, Okay,

471
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: there's three to four teams that are clearly better than

472
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Speaker 2: everybody else in the Big Ten. This year where in

473
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Speaker 2: the Eddie could say whatever you want about him, they've

474
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Speaker 2: destroyed everybody not named Ohio State, you know, Ohio State.

475
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Speaker 2: Obviously their only loss on the road in Eugene, Penn State,

476
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Speaker 2: as you just said a second ago, their only loss

477
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Speaker 2: was to Ohio State. So what I do think the

478
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Speaker 2: SEC has going for it, and I don't know if

479
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Speaker 2: that necessarily means we have to give them the benefit

480
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Speaker 2: of the doubt, is I do think that we have.

481
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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of what we have, we have

482
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Speaker 2: an Auburn field goal to take a forty one to

483
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Speaker 2: thirty eight lead against Texas A and M. There was

484
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Speaker 2: a Allburn first down called back on this drive that

485
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: looked like a questionable call at best, But Alburn has

486
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Speaker 2: a forty one to thirty eight league. Texas A and M,

487
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Speaker 2: we'll get the ball back in a second overtime. What

488
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Speaker 2: I would say, J Mart, is that's what makes it tough.

489
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Speaker 2: Is the middle and the bottom of the league is

490
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Speaker 2: certainly better than any other league in college football. But

491
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Speaker 2: to your point, that doesn't necessary, sarahly mean that because

492
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Speaker 2: the top, because the middle and the bottom are better,

493
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Speaker 2: that the top is necessarily better as well. You know,

494
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Speaker 2: like Florida, which beat ole Miss this week, is obviously

495
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Speaker 2: an A sending team, but that doesn't mean that Ole

496
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: Miss isn't a team without flaws. And I know that

497
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Speaker 2: because they lost to a lousie Kentucky team. Alabama, they

498
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Speaker 2: lost to an Oklahoma team that had shown no signs

499
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Speaker 2: of life prior to today. And so you know what

500
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Speaker 2: I would really say, J Mart, to be perfectly honest,

501
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Speaker 2: is I think what we're trending towards is what we

502
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Speaker 2: had in the fourteen playoff era. And listen, I'm not

503
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Speaker 2: gonna relitigate expanding to twelve or here, whatever. But by

504
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: the end of the year, most years you kind of

505
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Speaker 2: knew there were two or three teams that were cut

506
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Speaker 2: above everybody else in the fourteen playoff era, and most

507
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: years it was a struggle just to get to four

508
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: quality teams, let alone twelve. And so like this year,

509
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: like Alabama's clearly flawed, Tennessee might get in, they're not

510
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: playing great football right now, Like just just got dominated

511
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Speaker 2: at Georgia, you know, overtime against Floor. You go on

512
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: and on down the list. So I guess the point

513
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is I don't think the top

514
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Speaker 2: of the league is great. Texas has not looked great.

515
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: Georgia looked great last week against Tennessee. The week before

516
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Speaker 2: they look terrible against old mess So I think, to me, again,

517
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: I've said it seven times, so I'll shut up. But

518
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: I think the bottom and the middle are there really

519
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: are no real easy games except maybe Mississippi State this

520
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: year out of those fifteen teams. But I think just

521
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Speaker 2: because the middle is tougher doesn't mean that if a

522
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Speaker 2: top team beats those middle teams that it by default

523
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Speaker 2: means that the top is better as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, I yeah,

525
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: as much sense as this can make, I just again,

526
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of fun once we get

527
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Speaker 3: to the twelve. But there's been so much chaos. I mean,

528
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Speaker 3: Tennessee's guy to get thro Vanderbilt next week, and that's

529
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Speaker 3: not that's not what it usually is. Plus it's a

530
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Speaker 3: it's a state rivalry game that can cause some trouble.

531
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Speaker 3: So that's when you're gonna have to keep your eye

532
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Speaker 3: on as well. But I mean it's just baffling, Like

533
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: trying to figure out and decipher who's actually good is

534
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: a it's almost a fool's errand like you can look

535
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: at it and you can say, well, this team has

536
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: this many five stars, as this many guys that are

537
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: going to the NFL or whatever like that, But that

538
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna show up on Saturday and

539
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: do what they do. I mean, we've seen crazier. What

540
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: if Michigan somehow beats out of state next week. I

541
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Speaker 3: don't think you're going to VJ Husky. You want to

542
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: talk about chaos, Well.

543
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: There's a couple of scenarios. First of all, VJ Husky

544
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: and I were VJ of course, is a big Michigan fan.

545
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: He hosts with US prior he hosts prior to US,

546
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: and we were talking about that on airs, like if

547
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: that happened, oh my goodness, Ryan Day would never hear

548
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: the end of it. But yeah, no, I still think

549
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: there's results to be had. By the way, Texas A

550
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: and M not out of the weeds yet against Auburn,

551
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a third and six. If they don't

552
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: get the third, if they don't convert the third down,

553
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to kick a field goal to try

554
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: to force a third overtime. But I bring it up

555
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: because what happens if Texas A and M loses tonight

556
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: and then they be Texas next week? You know, it's like,

557
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: and by the way, I don't know what the spread

558
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: will be, but Texas does not look good the last

559
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It's not you know, it's not like

560
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: even if Texas A and M loses tonight and they

561
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: you know, who's to say if they will or not,

562
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: it's not like they're incapable of actually pulling off the

563
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: upset next week.

564
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Speaker 3: So I'm also the conference championship games.

565
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, that is the biggest variable, and it became

566
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: a conversation this week. J Martin, I don't know if

567
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: you saw Lane Kiff.

568
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Speaker 3: Is that so we can talk We can talk more

569
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: about it. I know, maybe I know we need to

570
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: get to Segur, but we can definitely talk more about that,

571
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Speaker 3: because I don't think that there is an advantage to

572
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: playing in that game.

573
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. We will talk to the Sager.

574
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: We will come back, we will talk about how do

575
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: conference championship games fit in the mix?

576
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: Here?

577
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Tell you well, let's get to the Sager, and we

578
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: got ourselves a little bit of an interesting update in

579
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M Auburn Di Saeger take it away,

580
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: my friend.

581
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Speaker 5: Well, they're going for the game tying field goal in

582
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: the second overtime at Auburn. If A and M does

583
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: not pull this out, guys, this will be now three

584
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: ranked SEC teams today losing to unranked conference opponents. Because

585
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: Bama already lost tonight, Old Miss already lost today. For

586
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: the moment, Auburn at home is leading in the second

587
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: overtime forty one thirty eight over fifteenth ranked Texas A

588
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: and M. They're kicking on fourth and nine. Looks like

589
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: there's a time out. By the way, Alabama's lost tonight

590
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 5: was twenty four to three at Oklahoma. The Tide had

591
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: not lost that badly to an unranked team since the

592
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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety eight Music Singing Bowl, when Virginia Tech beat

593
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: him and Bama had sewn Alexander on that team. As

594
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: for today's game with ninth ranked Old Miss at Florida

595
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: Gators twenty four to seventeen over the Rebels, Jackson's dart

596
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: in defeat had two touchdown passes but two late interceptions,

597
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: so Old Miss is just four and three in conference.

598
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 5: Alabama is four and three in conference, and currently Auburn

599
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 5: one and five in conference, is leading in the second overtime.

600
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: By the way, Oklahoma was one in five in the

601
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: SEC until that home win twenty four to three over

602
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 5: the Tide. Notre Dame took care of Army, to say

603
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: the least, at Yankee Stadium forty nine fourteen. The final

604
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: Army was four of nine passing with twenty six yards.

605
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 5: Update Auburn is going to a third overtime. A and

606
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: M's field goal attempt is good. It's forty one all

607
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Speaker 5: at the end of two overtimes.

608
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Speaker 2: It's a third o t where we just do too much.

609
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Speaker 5: Yes, so this is not gonna be like that Tennessee

610
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: game years ago.

611
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Speaker 2: Well, remember it was Texas A and MLSU A couple

612
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: of years ago. That was the one that changed the

613
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Speaker 2: whole rule.

614
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Speaker 5: It should Yeah, we agree, Yeah, possessions from the twenty

615
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: and pel it up to a sixty five sixty score.

616
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

617
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Speaker 2: The whole thing was, Oh, you know, it's too many

618
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: hits for the players. It's like that game. That game

619
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Speaker 2: happens once every ten years. Like it's it's not that

620
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: big of a deal to have this stupid overtime rule

621
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Speaker 2: that's now two pointk or whatever. It doesn't matter. Plays

622
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: back and forth is what word? Do they count for

623
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Speaker 2: two or do they count for six?

624
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: No, it should be two because you're at it's not

625
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: a possional pat I don't even know.

626
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: I just I was told there would be no math. Yeah.

627
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I've just watched. I blocked it four.

628
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: I blocked this awful way to decide games out of

629
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: my memory. So I don't know what the answer is.

630
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: Still better in the NFL, yes.

631
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: Well, which is different regular seas postseason.

632
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: Yes, the regular season rule was just insanely stupid. I'm sorry, okay.

633
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: So number two Ohio stateut number five Indiana handily thirty

634
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: eight to fifteen wins in the top ten for Texas, Miami, Georgia,

635
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: and Tennessee each one. Number four Penn State won twenty

636
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 5: six twenty five at Minnesota, and also Boise State was

637
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: playing tonight, ranked twelve. They needed a touchdown with about

638
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: five minutes to go to win at Wyoming seventeen thirteen.

639
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: Ashton genty one hundred and sixty nine yards rushing, including

640
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: a sixty one yard TD in the first half. SMU

641
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: is in its first year in the ACC and they're

642
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: going to the title game. Thirteenth ranked SMU won at

643
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: Virginia thirty three to seven. BYU lost, Colorado lost. Iowa

644
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: State was a winner all three among the road. By

645
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: the way, BYU lost at Arizona State twenty eight twenty three.

646
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: Colorado lost to Kansas in Kansas City. And by the way,

647
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 5: we were talking about this on the previous show, Iowa

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Speaker 5: State with all the jumbled standings that were presenting us

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Speaker 5: after these two upsets. Today in the Big Twelve, the

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Speaker 5: Iowa State Cyclones had the clear path to the Big

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Speaker 5: twelve final and they wind up winners at Utah tonight

652
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Speaker 5: thirty one to twenty eight on a touchdown with under

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Speaker 5: two minutes to go. Just have to beat Kansas State

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Speaker 5: in the finale to get into the final. As for

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Speaker 5: other top twenty five games, Clemson won South Carolina, one, Missouri,

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Speaker 5: and Illinois with wins. Twenty fifth ranked Illinois won at

657
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Speaker 5: Rutgers thirty eight to thirty one out a forty yard

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Speaker 5: touchdown pass with four seconds to go. There are three

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Speaker 5: late games at the Rose Bowl, usc leads six to

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Speaker 5: three over UCLA second quarter on f S one second order.

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Speaker 5: Air Force is seven to three leader at Nevada and

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Speaker 5: in the second quarter at Fresno State, it's the Bulldogs

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Speaker 5: fourteen to seven over Colorado State. We'll keep you updated

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Speaker 5: on the third ot at Auburn. In the Big Twelve Conference,

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma State is zero to eight in league play, lost

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Speaker 5: at home fifty six forty eight to Texas Tech. TCU

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Speaker 5: beat Arizona West Virginia over UCF. Baylor won at Houston tonight.

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Speaker 5: Kansas State easily passed Cincinnati, and also we had in

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Speaker 5: the Big Ten, Iowa winning again at Maryland Michigan fifty

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Speaker 5: to six over Northwestern the Michigan Wolverines are now Bowl

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Speaker 5: eligible at six and five. Go Nebraska six and five

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Speaker 5: Bowl eligible. The fans stormed the field after they beat

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Speaker 5: Wisconsin forty four to twenty five. Duke has now won

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Speaker 5: Dukes eight and three. They just beat Virginia Tech thirty

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Speaker 5: one to twenty eight. Also in the ACC. Syracuse over

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Speaker 5: Yukon in a matchup of seven and three teams. Syracuse

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Speaker 5: thirty one twenty four the final.

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Speaker 3: And Behaim over Calhoun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah all right, Boston Collins fed North Carolina. Florida State

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Speaker 5: was one in eight, but they got to play Charleston

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Speaker 5: Southern and beat them forty one to seven. Charleston Southern

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Speaker 5: one and eleven. Pitt looses again lost at Louisville thirty

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Speaker 5: seven to nine. Pitt is three and four in the ACC.

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Speaker 5: And we had Stanford at cal. That is an ACC

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Speaker 5: game these days. Cal with two touchdowns in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 5: beat rival Stanford twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era towards Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. We are

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Speaker 2: headed to a fourth overtime at Auburn. Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M Auburn tied at forty one in the third overtime.

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Speaker 2: That's where the alternating two point conversions start. Neither team converts,

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Speaker 2: so we now walk to the other side of the

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Speaker 2: field to do the same thing. Dumbest ending in sports.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of endings, we'll come back, we'll react to the

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Speaker 2: end of this game Texas A and M Auburn in

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Speaker 2: a fourth overtime, and we'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: uh maybe a little BYU Arizona. There was one other

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Speaker 2: topic that we wanted to get to OH Conference championship games.

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Speaker 2: Good bad, yay, nay. We'll discuss it all next. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live FROMNTI IRAQ dot Com studios. Just since we

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Speaker 2: went to break, another top fifteen team falls in quadruple overtime.

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Speaker 2: Auburn beats Texas A and M forty three to forty one.

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Speaker 2: That now means that on Saturday, the number five ranked

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Speaker 2: Indiana Hoosiers lost, Number seven ranked Alabama Crimson tid lost

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Speaker 2: the number nine ranked Old Miss Rebels lost the number

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Speaker 2: fourteen ranked BYU Cougars lost number fifteen ranked Texas and

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Speaker 2: the Maggie's lost number sixteen right Colorado. Buffalo's lost, the

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Speaker 2: number nineteen ranked Army black Knights lost, and we have

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Speaker 2: yet another field storming in college football as Auburn beats

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M Texas A and M. I don't

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Speaker 2: exactly know how all of the tiebreakers work, but this

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Speaker 2: feels like it essentially eliminates them from the college football

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Speaker 2: playoff conversation. They're now eight and three again. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how the tie breakers work in terms of if

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Speaker 2: they could still qualify for the SEC Championship game if

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Speaker 2: they beat Texas next week, but it's another big result. JMRT.

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Speaker 2: It's another big result.

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Speaker 3: How far has Auburn fallen that they storm the field

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Speaker 3: after beating the fifteenth ranked team in the country by

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Speaker 3: two in quadruple overtime? Like think about where Auburn was

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Speaker 3: a decade ago and where they generally are traditionally as

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Speaker 3: a power.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me jump in on that. If you're going

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Speaker 2: to make that argument, Oklahoma, who like three years ago

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Speaker 2: was a powerhouse, storm the field.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed. I mean, it just shows I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: just been such a shift in some of these programs,

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Speaker 3: like this is not like this isn't a game you

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Speaker 3: should be crowding the field for of course, and then

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Speaker 3: it just becomes kind of a contagion and everybody wants

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Speaker 3: to do it and all this other kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: and we'll get into one of those incidents that happened

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Speaker 3: in another pretty critical game before the end of the program.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean A and M at this stage,

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Speaker 3: I hope they're not in because they're not good enough.

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Speaker 3: They're not in my opinion. I think this goes ahead

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Speaker 3: and improves that and eliminates them from contention. Now we

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Speaker 3: just need to make sure Texas beats them, because we

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Speaker 3: don't need that craziness on top of everything else. I

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Speaker 3: just you just look at college football and your mouth

745
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Speaker 3: just hangs a gape at this stage because you're just like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we're about to see over the

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Speaker 3: course of the next six seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to make of the playoff

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Speaker 2: picture right now. Yeah either, And I know, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, you know Tennessee, as you said, down out

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Speaker 2: of the woods. Yet they have to go to Vandy.

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Speaker 2: Texas has to go to Texas, A and m I'll

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Speaker 2: be real, I don't even know. I wonn't even be

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Speaker 2: surprised if Texas, I don't know if they'd be an underdog,

755
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Speaker 2: but it's gonna be pretty close. And you just talk

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Speaker 2: about where we like, I don't even know what the

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Speaker 2: playoff picture is, like, like I bring up like, let

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Speaker 2: me ask you hypothetical and we don't have the resumes

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Speaker 2: totally in front of us. But like, you know, if

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Speaker 2: Clemson goes ten and two and beats the South Carolina

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Speaker 2: team that has a couple of nice wins, like, is

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Speaker 2: Clemson at ten and two in the picture? Is Miami

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Speaker 2: in the picture? If they lose in the ACC title game.

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Speaker 2: It's just like with all these losses, and again, part

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Speaker 2: of it does depend on what happens next week. Like

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to make of the playoff picture.

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Speaker 2: I guess the SEC would be in pretty good shape

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Speaker 2: to get four if Texas were to win. I get no,

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Speaker 2: it'd be Tennessee, Georgia and Texas right now.

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Speaker 3: Those are the three. Those are the only three. We

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Speaker 3: went from five and arguing for six teams to the

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Speaker 3: SEC to three, max, Like I don't think any of

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Speaker 3: the three loss teams are getting in. So I think

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Speaker 3: those three are safe right now. They just have to

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Speaker 3: handle their business. If Tennessee were lose next week, that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a problem, but they have it within their power.

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Speaker 3: If they just win next week, I think they're in.

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Speaker 2: I think they're probably in two. It's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know, like I'd have to really look

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Speaker 2: at the rankings and see, like, maybe this doesn't eliminate

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Speaker 2: a three loss Old Miss team, a three lass Now.

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Speaker 2: I do think the team that it helps more than

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Speaker 2: anybody is Indiana. I think Indiana. Now it's hard to

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Speaker 2: see the scenario where if they beat if they beat

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Speaker 2: Perdue next week, that they wouldn't be in. But again

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Speaker 2: we had I think the number that I gave out

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Speaker 2: was six of the top twenty teams fall, including four

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Speaker 2: with real college football playoff gramification three. You think it

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Speaker 2: would eliminate them Old Miss Alabama, now Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M all on the outside looking in. Crazy day at

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Speaker 2: college football will come back put a bow on college

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Speaker 2: FOOTBA gotta look to Week twelve of the NFL and

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Speaker 2: most importantly, a crazy week in New York. The Jets

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Speaker 2: are a mess. We know that we'll talk about a

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Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: for people who are in, you know, on their couch

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Speaker 2: or you know, just took in a crazy twelve hours

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Speaker 2: of college football, we should probably talk about college football

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Speaker 2: at least just for one more segment, just to kind

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Speaker 2: of put a bow on everything that we've seen over

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Speaker 2: the last twelve hours. Now, it is worth noting we

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Speaker 2: still got some games of meaning going on. USC versus UCLA,

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Speaker 2: the crosstown rivalry nine to three. USC is up at

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Speaker 2: the half. Lincoln Riley's yelling about something, but Jay mart

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Speaker 2: let's let's just really quickly just reset this crazy day

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Speaker 2: in college football, because we spent all week, you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody's arguing about all these these hypotheticals, and Indiana hasn't

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Speaker 2: beaten anybody, and what if they get destroyed by Ohio State,

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00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: what will it mean? And how many SEC teams should

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Speaker 2: get in? And if Old Miss wins out, and if

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Speaker 2: Alabama wins out, and what about this and what about that?

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Speaker 2: Well we have chaos. And it's really the other direction

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Speaker 2: is we're gonna have trouble getting to twelve teams here

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Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. And that is because

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us over the course of today,

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Speaker 2: number five, Indiana falls to Ohio State. At the time,

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Speaker 2: you sit there and say, what is Indiana's resume? What

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Speaker 2: could they be? Are they in trouble? Then just minutes later,

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Speaker 2: Old Miss loses to Florida. Old Miss picks up their

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Speaker 2: third loss. It is their second loss to an unranked

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Speaker 2: opponent this year. They obviously lost to Kentucky earlier in

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Speaker 2: the season. Alabama right as we came on air round

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Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern time, they fell to Oklahoma. They too,

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Speaker 2: now have three losses, including two to unranked teams Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: and Vanderbilt earlier in the year, and just moments ago

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M in four overtimes against the Auburn Tigers.

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Speaker 2: They fall forty three to forty one. That means that

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, after thinking there were probably thirteen

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Speaker 2: fourteen teams for twelve spots, Alabama's pick up their third loss,

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Speaker 2: you'd think they're done. Ole Miss has picked up their

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Speaker 2: third loss. You'd think they're done. Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: has picked up their third loss. But as Disager told you,

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Speaker 2: there is a pathway for them to play for the

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Speaker 2: SEC championship if they are to beat Texas. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know if an m's technically they're certainly not eliminated,

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Speaker 2: because if they win the SEC they would be in.

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Speaker 2: But just a chaotic day j Mart craziest sport in

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Speaker 2: the world, and the craziest Saturday that we've had all

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Speaker 2: season long.

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Speaker 3: We've definitely come to that spot where we were gonna

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Speaker 3: have an argument, oh that somebody that really deserved to

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Speaker 3: be in isn't going to be able to make it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we have that argument anymore. Nope, if

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Speaker 3: you don't make it, you have found your way out.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of these three lost SEC teams

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Speaker 3: really have done enough. I kind of don't think they

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Speaker 3: should be there at this standpoint, and you know, you

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Speaker 3: look at I don't think that we all came in

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Speaker 3: on our Bengo card thinking smu Arizona State, Indiana. We'd

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Speaker 3: be three teams that are probably going to be there.

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Speaker 3: They're certainly going to have the opportunity. And then look

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Speaker 3: at this, So the four conference champions you mentioned get

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Speaker 3: to buy. Let's say Boise State gets gets to four, right,

862
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Boise State barely be Wyoming bois Like, again, I think

863
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: this is and you made this point, but I think

864
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: this is an emphatic point to make at this stage.

865
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: There's more football to be played over the next couple weeks,

866
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: actually next week. Of course, many have the conference title

867
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: games in that mess. But let's just look at next Saturday.

868
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: There is no reason for anybody of any fan base

869
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: to feel comfortable going into next week. And the reason

870
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: why is because no one is beyond reproach this year.

871
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: No one. You look at and you just there's no

872
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: way they can lose. I don't believe it. I don't

873
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: think so. Like Tennessey's going to have a dogfight against Vanderbilt.

874
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: They may end up beating them by thirty, but there's

875
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: no reason to feel that comfortable about it. Same thing

876
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: with Texas playing against Texas A and m Honestly, Michigan's

877
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 3: going to show up against Ohio State, you know they are.

878
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: So you look at this across the board, everybody has

879
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: to watch their back. There are teams that maybe you

880
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: feel okay about right now or you think they're really

881
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: balling out. All it takes is is this kind of

882
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: Saturday for a couple of different teams as opposed to

883
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: the ones that had bad Saturdays this week, and we

884
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: have even more of a conundrum. So, I mean, regardless

885
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: of what the spreads look like or what people are

886
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: talking about going into these games, one thing you are

887
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: learning is, especially in this new realm of college football

888
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: where the depth is not the same and the talent

889
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: is a little bit more spread out than it has

890
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: been in years past, you'd better watch on Saturdays, because

891
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: I think we're going to have more of these kinds

892
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: of Saturdays than we have in years past, just because

893
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: of kind of the fluctuation and the inconsistency that is

894
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: created by this new era of college football.

895
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the point that you brought up in

896
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: the middle of there is the most important one, which

897
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: is that. I think we're now at a point. I

898
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: don't think anybody that doesn't make the playoff is going

899
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: to have a legit argument. I don't think anybody's going

900
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: to have a legit argument that, oh, we got screwed,

901
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: or we got this or we got that. You know,

902
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: and listen, we're working under the assumption that there's no

903
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: way that the loser of the Big Ten Championship game

904
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: gets left out. It's probably almost certainly going to be Oregon,

905
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: Ohio State. By the way, dis Seger just told you

906
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 2: Georgia officially clinches a spot in the SEC Championship game.

907
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: You know, we didn't talk about this, Jmart and I

908
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: think it is worth having the conversation about is you know, listen,

909
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: there's a million different hypotheticals, but Georgia's in the SEC

910
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: Championship game. They're gonna play the winner of Texas and

911
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Let's say, hypothetically, Texas A and M,

912
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, beats Texas next week, then you got a teninth.

913
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: You know, you got somebody's gonna take a third loss

914
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, and Texas A and M would take a

915
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: fourth loss. First of all, you know, let me ask

916
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: you this because we talked about it is Lane Kiffin said, hey,

917
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of us. I'll say it so nobody

918
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: else has to. There's a lot of US coaches that

919
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: don't even want to go to the conference championship game

920
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: because we're afraid that fair or not another loss could

921
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: end up crippling our resume. First of all, again we

922
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: don't have the conference championship set. What we do know

923
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: is Oregon is officially in the Big Ten Championship game.

924
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: I would think even if they lose this week and

925
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: then lose the conference championship game, they would still be

926
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: in at eleven and two overall. But Georgia is in

927
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: the SEC championship game. They clinched a spot tonight with

928
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: Alabama's loss and with with also earlier in the day

929
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: old Missus loss as well. And so my question for you,

930
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: if Georgia takes a third loss, by the way, how

931
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: about Texas A and M. If Texas, Texas A and

932
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: M were to take a fourth loss at that point,

933
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: do you think, because this was a topic that came

934
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: up with Lane Kiffin this week, if you make the

935
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: SEC or Big Ten championship game, that you should essentially

936
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: even if you lose not be punished for playing that

937
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: extra game.

938
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: So you've got a problem here because you have the

939
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: money that comes in from these games on the line,

940
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: and then you have it against what's the obvious fix here?

941
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: Because the question you're asking not only is relevant, it's

942
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: very problematic for the teams that make it into this scenario.

943
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: You would you don't really want to play in this

944
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: because there's nothing to gain from it, especially if you're Georgia.

945
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: If you win, who cares? Like if you lose, then

946
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: that's gonna cast another problem. Let's say they play Texas.

947
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: One of their best wins of the year was when

948
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: they beat Texas. Then what if Texas beats them by

949
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: three touchdowns in that game? Like, what how is that

950
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: gonna look like? The real fix here is those games

951
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: need to go away because I don't know, I don't

952
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: know what the scenario is where it makes sense to

953
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: continue playing them from a football perspective. But they're not

954
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: going anywhere because they are big time moneymakers. There's a

955
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: lot of sponsors and ad revenue and all those kinds

956
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: of things. But I don't think that they help to

957
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: cause anymore at all. As a matter of fact, I

958
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: think that they are eventually, like our two SEC teams

959
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: just gonna decide, yeah, we're not gonna try. We're gonna

960
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: treat this like it doesn't matter, and hope that the

961
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: committee sees it that way as well, because that's what

962
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: I do. I'd like if it were me and I

963
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: made it, I would call the other team to be like, yeah,

964
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: do you guys just want to not really care about

965
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: this and actually make it look like a force so

966
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: that the committee actually doesn't penalize us for not trying, Like,

967
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: because that's the issue. If you go out there and

968
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: you try, and you get beat and then that turns

969
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: out to be your third loss or like you mentioned,

970
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: a fourth loss of your Texas A and M, how

971
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: do you penalize the team that had to play the

972
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: extra game and put in a team that didn't make

973
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: the conference championship from another league and put them in

974
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: the spot or even worse, you go lose the SEC

975
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 3: championship game, Tennessee doesn't play in it, then Tennessee goes

976
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: in over you because you have an extra loss. Like

977
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: there's there are a number of just pure logic problems

978
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: with this, and the only fix is to eliminate the games,

979
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: which is not gonna happen.

980
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you just nailed all the key points.

981
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: Is you know, one is that first of all, like

982
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: first of all, the whole the to me, let's just

983
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 2: go we know why it's being played. It's for the money.

984
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 2: You just mentioned it, But let's go back to what

985
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: is the reason that they were put in place in

986
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: the first place, outside of money. It was like, hey,

987
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, the SEC expanded to twelve teams a bunch

988
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: of years ago. There are two divisions. Uh, not everybody's

989
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: gonna play everybody, but we kind of have these these

990
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: two uh you know, these these two divisions, and even

991
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: if you don't, even if BAM and Georgia don't play

992
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: during the regular season, they'll win their divisions and they'll play.

993
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: So it gives you, by the end of the year,

994
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: you had a clear idea of who was the best

995
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: team in the league. I don't think it does that anymore.

996
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: And it's it's not like just because you know, like

997
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: there's chaos at the top of the big at top

998
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: of the SEC, but it's also just bec I know

999
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: I've said this point a million times. Phsy apologizes, but

1000
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: because of the imbalanced schedules. It's like, you know, if

1001
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Texas loses the Texas A and M, and Texas A

1002
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 2: and M is a three loss team, does anyone think

1003
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: Texas A and M is one of the two best

1004
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: teams in that league? Of course, not exactly, and so

1005
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: you're you're not really getting the two best teams. I

1006
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: guess in theory you could determine who the best team

1007
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: is if you have a team like Georgia, whatever. But

1008
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: the point you're trying to make is it doesn't it

1009
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: doesn't really show you who's the best team in this era.

1010
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: On top of it, if we're gonna say that if

1011
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: you make the conference championship game and we're not gonna

1012
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: punish you, then it doesn't really serve as any sort

1013
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: of elimination game either. And so I think that's it's

1014
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: It really is kind of an interesting like you know,

1015
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: needle that the committee has to thread of, Like you

1016
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: can't outright say that we're not gonna punish teams for

1017
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: making the conference championship because to your point, why would

1018
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: teams play you know, you know, if whoever it is,

1019
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: if it's Texas and you know, quinn Ewers has a

1020
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: bad ankle. Like if I'm Steve Sarkisian and I know

1021
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: in the back of my head, if I lose this game,

1022
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm still in It's like, you know, do I risk

1023
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: more severe injury to any of my players, but certainly

1024
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: your star players? Or do you arrest them? And you say,

1025
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: you know what, if we got a play the extra game,

1026
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: we play the extra game. And so I'm curious. I

1027
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: don't really see the world where we eliminate them because

1028
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: they are such big moneymakers. But I do wonder if

1029
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: as time goes on, not just because of the expanded playoff,

1030
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: but because a point that we've hammerned over a million

1031
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: times because of the expanded conferences, makes it basically impossible

1032
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: to determine who's actually the best and who isn't. I

1033
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: don't think we'll ever get to a world where we

1034
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: eliminate the game, but I think we probably should because

1035
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it serves the purpose that it really

1036
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: was intended to anymore at this point.

1037
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we have come to this

1038
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 3: place where the college basketball conference tournaments are much more

1039
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: important than these championship games in a positive sense, because

1040
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: you still have the automatic big come out of these leagues.

1041
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: You can argue whether or not that should be the case,

1042
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: but if you didn't have that as the case, there'd

1043
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: be no reason to play some of these smaller conference tournaments,

1044
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: for example. But at the very least because of the

1045
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: field being as big as it is, if you're a

1046
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: team deserves to get in, you can still get beat

1047
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: in the first round of the tournament and get in. Now.

1048
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: It can hurt you if you're on the bubble, but

1049
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: that's on you at that point in time. No bubble

1050
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: team is likely to be in a conference championship game

1051
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: in college football outside of the fact that if A

1052
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: and M were to get there, they would certainly qualify

1053
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: in that way. But I just don't know why you

1054
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 3: would try. I don't even know. And really, I would

1055
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: make it so that the committee recognized it. Like if

1056
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 3: I were going to go in there and I realized

1057
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: there was nothing to gain and everything to lose, then

1058
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: I would put nothing out there and see if the

1059
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: committee took into consideration the fact that I didn't even

1060
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: really try. And I think that's a risk, and maybe

1061
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: you'd crowdsorce it and try to figure out and get

1062
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: some kind of an answer to it. Then there'd be

1063
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: an integrity question and all that. But I don't see

1064
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: any reason why you would go play that game if

1065
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: there is no if there is nothing that you can

1066
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: gain from it, but you can lose, and then the

1067
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: teams that don't play could then somehow leapfrog you by

1068
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 3: playing one less game. That makes zero sense.

1069
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: It's just an interesting, interesting conversation. By the way, I

1070
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: don't know if Ross Dellinger from Yahoo Sports is listening

1071
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: to us right now. If you are, Ross, we appreciate you.

1072
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: The only reason I bring it up is because he

1073
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Speaker 2: just tweeted out one minute ago. Does this scenario exist

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00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: Texas A and M upsetting Texas D fancy the SEC

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00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: Championship game, losing to Georgia and being in contention for

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00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: a CFP playoff bid CFP bid with four losses, And again,

1077
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Speaker 2: that is the conversation that comes up if we just

1078
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: automatically default to if you make the SEC championship game

1079
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: or the Big Ten championship game, then you're automatically in

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00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff field. It's just listen. I none

1081
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: of us know how this is all going to play out,

1082
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: because ultimately it's never been done before. We don't know

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00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: what the committee values. By the way, it's worth noting

1084
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: the Committee is always a little bit different every year.

1085
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: So what the Committee values this year doesn't mean it's

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00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: going to be what they value going forward. But man,

1087
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: oh man, oh man, you know, you talk about out

1088
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: a situation that was already going to be chaotic that

1089
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: is now extra chaotic because as we told you to

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Speaker 2: lead the segment, Alabama loses, Ole Miss loses, Texas A,

1091
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: and M loses. All three pick up their third loss

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: of the season. By the way, Alabama, all they had

1093
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: to do was win out and they were going to

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00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: they I think there was a weird scenario where if

1095
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: like Arkansas beats somebody at some like basically Alabama was

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00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: going to that SEC championship game if they got through

1097
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Speaker 2: this week in Auburn. But Alabama loses to Oklahoma, Ole

1098
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Miss earlier in the day, loses to Florida, Texas A,

1099
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: and M loses at Auburn in four overtimes. And oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Indiana lost as well for the first time.

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00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: You would think that because of all the cartage around them,

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00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: it wouldn't really impact Indiana's playoff chances. Fox Sports Radio

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00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: er towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. Well, come back, talked a lot of college

1105
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: football switch gears to the NFL, and you want to

1106
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: talk about chaos, not just a college football playoff picture.

1107
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: How about them Jets. That's right, j Ets, baby, We'll

1108
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: talk about them next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody,

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: the tyraq dot com studios. Shortly after the show, our

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Speaker 2: podcast will be going up. If you missed any of

1112
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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

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00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: Should also mention football fans be sure to tune into

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning, beginning at ten am

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Speaker 2: Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM,

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Speaker 2: Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, Professional better Bill Krakenberger. We'll have

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Speaker 2: you covered three hours before kickoff. Every Sunday morning, listen

1121
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Speaker 2: to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM. Right here on

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00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio at Jmark. We will

1123
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: get to back to college football in a little bit,

1124
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: and do want to get to Disager here in a

1125
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Speaker 2: few minutes, because obviously there's a lot to get everybody

1126
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: updated on on the craziest Saturday in college football of

1127
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: the season. Do you want to switch gears over to

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Speaker 2: the NFL J Mart and listen. It's a little bit

1129
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: of a quieter Week twelve slate, so we could do

1130
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: some deep dives on some of these other topics and conversations,

1131
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: but obviously the big story in the NFL this week

1132
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Speaker 2: GM Joe Douglas fired of the New York Jets. Don't

1133
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: think it's really all that surprising a few weeks obviously

1134
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: after the Roberts Sola firing, but just a fact, I

1135
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: think it's a fascinating story only because, first of all,

1136
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: it's I feel bad for Joe Douglas because it just

1137
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: shows you you can do everything right as a front

1138
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Speaker 2: office person. If you don't get the quarterback right, none

1139
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: of it matters. I mean, this is guy that drafted

1140
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, drafted Garrett Wilson, Brease Hall, you go on

1141
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: and on down the list. But two and I want to.

1142
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: He gets into a minute in the conversation about who replaces,

1143
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: not so much Joe Douglass, but the next thing, I

1144
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: just think the Jets are such a mess. I don't

1145
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: know how desirable any of these jobs are. But Joe Douglas,

1146
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: as I just mentioned, is out as the Jets GM

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00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: J Martin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and increasingly letting Robert solid go just looks like

1149
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: who cares? Like you really thought that was gonna make

1150
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: you better. I don't know that they did. I don't

1151
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: know what was happening there, but there's so much coming

1152
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: out about the Jets. Douglas. Douglas was I mean, I

1153
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: think he was signed, sealed, and delivered out of there

1154
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: around the time SLA was. But you talk about the quarterback,

1155
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers experiment has been a failure. He really has.

1156
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: I mean it's not that he hasn't had a couple

1157
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: of moments, but this team has not been demonstrably better

1158
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: with him. There you talk about, and you're right, Douglas

1159
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: has done a pretty good job in terms of some

1160
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: of the guys that he's brought there. But the holes

1161
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: and the flaws are many. The drama is well, this

1162
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: is what with Aaron Rodgers. Unfortunately, for those that like him,

1163
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: this is what was happening late in Green Bay. But

1164
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: you had some you had some things to help cover that.

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: With the Jets, you don't. And I mean, it's a

1166
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 3: it's an unbelievable circumstance, just the condition of New York

1167
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: professional football with the Jets and the Giants. We don't

1168
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 3: even have to talk about the Giants yet. We're getting there.

1169
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: But I don't know who comes into BEGM. But I

1170
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: know Rex Ryan's calling on a podcast that says he

1171
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: has unfinished business with the Jets. And I hesitate to

1172
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: say this, but I might just bring him back in

1173
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: if he actually wants that. If he wants to come

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Speaker 3: in and do that, he has the thick enough skin

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Speaker 3: to go in there and be a character and all

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. I don't know at this what's

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00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: your other option? Like, who is it that's going to

1178
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: be beating down the doors to come take the Jets job.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Mike Rabol ain't going there. Rabel's probably

1180
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Speaker 3: gonna based on what you're hearing, he might be the

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Speaker 3: top of this cycle in terms of, you know, he

1182
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Speaker 3: wants to coach again and there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: that are already interested in him. He's not going to

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Speaker 3: go there, Like, who is is Aaron Rodgers going to

1185
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Speaker 3: be back? We have no idea, but nothing about that

1186
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Speaker 3: job seems enticing or interesting if Rex actually wants it.

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Speaker 3: The last time they were actually pretty decent was when

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Speaker 3: Rex was there. Well, yeah, I might take that on.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because that was an offshoot of what

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, And it was funny when

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: I first heard the clip of what he said. I

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01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh goodness, you know, I mean, because guys

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Speaker 2: stumped for jobs publicly all the time. Sure, And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Why don't we come back and continue

1195
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: the Rex Ryan conversation because I got a couple thoughts

1196
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Speaker 2: on that and kind of the current state of the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Do want to get over the news desk?

1198
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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on still in the world of

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Speaker 2: sports to say you go ahead moment and.

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Speaker 5: While we're talking NFL, The New York Giants officially waved

1202
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: quarterback Daniel Jones today, agreeing to his requests. The Giants

1203
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 5: activated linebacker Caveon Thibodeau off ir Tampa Bay tackle Tristan

1204
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Speaker 5: Wurfs with a bad knee, was downgraded to doubtful for

1205
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Speaker 5: the Sunday game at the Giants. Looks like Bucks wide

1206
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 5: receiver Mike Evans is back listed his questionable after the

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Speaker 5: strain hamstring. Looks like he's returning after missing the last

1208
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Speaker 5: three games, and it seems like the young wide receiver

1209
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Speaker 5: for the Giants, Maleak Neighbors, is gonna give it a

1210
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Speaker 5: go despite being questionable with a groin injury. For the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: wide receiver Brandon Cooks remained on injured. Reserve guard Zach

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Speaker 5: Martin out tomorrow as his defensive back Trayvon Diggs. Dallas

1213
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Speaker 5: tight end Jake Ferguson is out with a concussion. Dallas

1214
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 5: plays at Washington Sunday on Fox TV. The Raiders ground

1215
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 5: game is awful this year, and running back Samir White

1216
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 5: and Alexander Madison are each doubtful against Denver with quad

1217
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 5: and ankle injuries, respectively. Panthers running back Jonathan brook says

1218
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Speaker 5: he will finally make his NFL debut Sunday after last

1219
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 5: year's torn acl. Carolina host Kansas City Sunday. Forty nine

1220
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Speaker 5: Ers quarterback Brock Perty is out Sunday with a sore shoulder.

1221
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 5: Brandon Allen will start as San Francisco's at Green Bay

1222
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 5: on Fox TV tomorrow. San Francisco defensive end Nick Bosa

1223
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 5: is out and their pressure right on quarterback changes considerably

1224
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 5: negatively when he is not out there. Wide receiver DeVante

1225
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 5: Smith is out with a hamstring injury. Philadelphia's won sixth straight.

1226
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 5: They play Sunday night at the Rams, and then Monday

1227
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 5: night it's Baltimore at the Chargers in the same stadium.

1228
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Speaker 5: To college football, we did have a four overtime game

1229
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Speaker 5: at Auburn tonight, Tigers beating fifteenth ranked Texas A and

1230
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Speaker 5: M forty three forty one as A and M dropped

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Speaker 5: a two point pass at the end. The Aggies had

1232
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 5: trailed twenty one nothing in the first half, came back

1233
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 5: from that and still got the l. All of this

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: with the Alabama loss, the Old Miss loss, the A

1235
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Speaker 5: and M loss, Georgia wins its non conference game. Georgia

1236
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Speaker 5: Bulldogs are in the SEC title game and they've already

1237
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 5: beaten Tennessee head to head. Tennessee won its non conference

1238
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 5: game easily. I mentioned you talked about the overtime rules.

1239
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Speaker 5: It was five years ago that they said, you know,

1240
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 5: once we get to a fifth overtime, let's just exchange

1241
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 5: two point tries and now it's the third overtime. As

1242
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 5: we saw tonight that they start doing that. It was

1243
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: in response to the Texas A and M twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Game, seventy four seventy one.

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Speaker 5: Is that seventy four seven two, and believe it or not,

1246
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 5: that game lasted nearly five hours and tied the record

1247
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 5: of seven overtimes. Beating LSU in the Big Twelve, Iowa

1248
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 5: State had a good day. They can get into the

1249
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 5: Big twelve final with let's say the clearest path if

1250
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: they could just win tonight against Utah and win the

1251
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: finale against Kansas State. They did win at Utah thirty

1252
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 5: one to twenty eight touchdown for Iowa State with under

1253
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: two minutes left. The Utes then missed a fifty four

1254
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 5: yard field goal attempt in the final seconds. Utah had

1255
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 5: nine drives, nine first downs. We're using a fifth string

1256
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 5: quarterback at one point. Arizona State certainly had a great day.

1257
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 5: They have a chance to get into the conference title

1258
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: game their first year in that league. Arizona State won

1259
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 5: at home against BYU twenty eight twenty three also Colorado

1260
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 5: lost in Kansas City. The Kansas Jayhawks beat the Buffs

1261
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 5: thirty seven to twenty one. As far as the SEC

1262
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 5: title game, I mentioned Georgia is in Texas, could be

1263
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 5: in they if you know the express and control their

1264
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: own destiny. I'm not sure that's accurate, but we all

1265
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 5: know what we're talking about. The Longhorns needed to win

1266
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 5: their last two games. They beat Kentucky thirty one to fourteen.

1267
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 5: And now it's Texas at Texas A and M next Saturday.

1268
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 5: Winner goes to the SEC Championship Game. There are three

1269
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: late contests in college football tonight in the rain at

1270
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl early third quarter, usc leads nine to

1271
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: three over UCLA on FS one. Air Force with a

1272
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: seven to six lead at Nevada early third quarter, and

1273
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 5: will Colorado State be going to the Mountain West Final?

1274
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 5: They're losing badly at Fresno State. It's Bulldogs of Fresno

1275
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: State twenty eight seven over Colorado State at the half.

1276
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 5: Notre Dame Claubert Army Penn State won by a point

1277
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 5: at Minnesota, Ohio State all over Indiana, Boise State needed

1278
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 5: a late td to win at Wyoming and also Illinois

1279
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: with a touchdown on the final seconds one at Rutgers

1280
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 5: in the NBA Utah upset New York Milwaukee over Charlotte

1281
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 5: won twenty five to one to nineteen LaMelo ball the

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Speaker 5: Hornets fifty points, and tennis is back to.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much. Steve Sager to Saga, will

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: be back in just a moment with his extended late

1285
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: hour update here at about twelve forty five Eastern time.

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: But this is Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. Before the break

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: to or before we got to the Sager, we were

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: talking about basically the mess that is the Jets, and

1290
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: then Rex Ryan going on sports talk radio in New

1291
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: York and basically stumping for the job. And it was

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: a very interesting comment. I'll just read it really quickly.

1293
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: He says, I'd like to There's no doubt about it.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: I've let everyone know that I definitely would be interested

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01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: in that job. Even though I've got a great gig,

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: I think I've got some unfinished business, especially with the franchise,

1297
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: that particular franchise. You know, my dad, buddy Ryan was

1298
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: there for he wants the job, and by the way,

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01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: it was part of my take from Barstool. I apologize

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: I thought he was on sports talk radio for some reason.

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: But why I bring it up is because when I

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: first heard it, I kind of laughed it off, but

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: then I thought, j Mart, you know, listen, there is

1304
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: I think, at this point a very reasonable possibility that

1305
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will not be back next year. And there's

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: really two thoughts. Is one, I don't know who's going

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: to want this job. We talked about a little bit

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: before we got to disager. I just I don't know

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: if you're a viable candidate, why you would want this job.

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: If you're Mike Rabele, as you said, if you're Ben Johnson,

1311
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: you know, if you're he's definitely not going yeah, yeah, exactly.

1312
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'll take it a step further. You know,

1313
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson last year basically looked at the entire market.

1314
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: The reports were that basically he wanted either the Chargers

1315
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: or he wasn't taking a job. And if you're a

1316
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: young coordinator on the way up that you know you

1317
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: might only get one shot at it. I don't know

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: why you would want the Jets' job, period. But with

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan, he wants the job. I know, I don't

1320
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: know who's really going to want it, And I think

1321
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: a couple things is he has proven he can win

1322
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: in that market, and I think he's proven he can

1323
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: win with if they have to go with a young quarterback.

1324
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: And again, maybe I don't think they're gonna bring back

1325
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers next year, but one, if they bring back Rogers,

1326
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: I don't think rex Ryan's a player's coach, but I

1327
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna put up with the nonsense. And

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: then two, if you got to go with a young quarterback,

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01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: He's won with a young quarterback in an otherwise experienced roster.

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it'll happen. I don't think

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: it's as crazy after I thought about it as I

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: did when I first heard the report.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I first heard about it, I kind of

1334
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: had the same reaction you did. But as I've kind

1335
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: of sat with it and as it's kind of evolved

1336
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: over the last few days, there's a lot worse ideas

1337
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: than that, And if it did happen, it wouldn't shock

1338
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: me at this point. Again, like, I don't think anybody

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: worth their salt is gonna want that job. Like I

1340
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: don't see what the upside is at this point unless

1341
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: it is kind of a Rex Ryan type. And I'll

1342
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 3: tell you this. I mean we you know, we talked

1343
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: about the the Aaron Rodgers experiment being a failure. He

1344
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: got everything he wanted, He got DeVante Adams, he got Lazard,

1345
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: he got everything, he got hired. Yeah, he got he

1346
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: got whatever he wanted. And Boyd has not done anything

1347
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: for the Jets at all. Like this has gone over

1348
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: about as well as Brett Farvin, the Jets uniform went

1349
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: over for them. The last like quarterback that you can

1350
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 3: recall actually winning games for them is now an analyst

1351
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 3: for Fox. His name is Mark Sanchez. Like you really

1352
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: think about it, that's how long it's been, guys, Like

1353
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 3: it's it's been a minute since this team has been relevant.

1354
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: And again Rex was the coach at that point, and

1355
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: he has built for New York that much we already

1356
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: know because he was. He was great in terms of

1357
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: just things he would say and all that. And he

1358
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: has been really good on TV. He's right when he says,

1359
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: you know, I think I have a pretty good gig.

1360
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: He does, and he's I think he's he's been pretty good.

1361
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: He's good at the hot take stuff, and he's good

1362
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: at being fiery and having a personality. We already knew

1363
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: he had a personality. But if the Jets are if

1364
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: the Jets are about to be in like a rebuild

1365
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: mode or a mode where there's gonna be some patience,

1366
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to find a quarterback whatever is happening here.

1367
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: And look, Woody Johnson that that was the other story

1368
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 3: came out this week, Woody Johnson suggesting Aaron Rodgers being

1369
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 3: benched a handful of weeks ago for Tyrod Taylor. Boy,

1370
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: we've really this couldn't possibly have gone worse, could it?

1371
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: Like this is this is real bad? Like this may

1372
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: be worse than the Russell Wilson deal, Like Aaron Rodgers

1373
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: goes to the Jets. Russell Wilson with the Broncos was

1374
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 3: more effective than this. I'm not talking about Russell Wilson

1375
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 3: with the Steelers. I'm talking about with Denver. That's my team,

1376
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: and that was an utter disaster to watch. And at

1377
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: the same time, I look at that and I'm like, boy,

1378
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: at least we didn't get Rogers packet because that wasn't

1379
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna work in Denver, just like it didn't work in

1380
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: New York. I think at this point, I mean, Aaron

1381
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: Rodgers probably for his leg he wants to come back.

1382
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: I just I don't know how this works. I really don't,

1383
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: but Rex as coach, I don't know what the odds are.

1384
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 3: I haven't really looked at it yet, but increasingly I

1385
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: think that might be actually a viable option.

1386
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah I do. I actually do too. And like I said,

1387
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: I laughed it off when I saw it really quickly.

1388
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: I think I know what your answer will be to this.

1389
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 2: Do you think that if the Jets decide whether it's

1390
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: a quote unquote rebuild with a rookie or whatever, do

1391
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: you think there's a place in the NFL that wants

1392
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers as a starting quarterback next year? Like I

1393
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: don't think he wants to be done. It does seem

1394
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: like increasingly the Jets want to be done with him,

1395
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: and again, a new head coach, is that something you

1396
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: really want to put up with? Do you think there's

1397
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: a place that would say, hey, we'll take you on

1398
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: as our quarterback next year?

1399
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, I do, because there's some really bad teams

1400
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: in the league. Aaron, Sure, there's some really bad teams

1401
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: in the league. There may be seven head coach openings.

1402
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: I saw that in a couple of articles this week.

1403
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some places where there's gonna be some

1404
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: changes Aaron Rodgers, just based on what you know he

1405
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: has done in the past. If you're a bottom of

1406
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 3: the barrel football team, it's not gonna get worse because

1407
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is there. At the very least, he might

1408
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: sell tickets just because his name is Aaron Rodgers. At

1409
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: least there'll be something to talk about because Aaron Rodgers

1410
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: creates and generates some kind of interest. From that standpoint,

1411
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: there are a couple of teams in the league that

1412
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: are so bad that just the name Aaron Rodgers will matter.

1413
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: Now I have a question that is related to the

1414
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: other guy that used to be a quarterback in New

1415
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 3: York that I'm I've been thinking about this for at

1416
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 3: least a day. I don't know if now's the time

1417
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 3: to bring it up.

1418
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: Well, tell you what, why don't we revisit it an hour?

1419
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it in the third hour, because I

1420
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 3: think it's gonna create I think it's gonna create some chatter.

1421
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, coming up in hour three, we'll talk Brett Faarr,

1422
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: former New York quarterback. No, I'm kidding. No, No, Brett, No,

1423
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: I know who we talk. We'll save the Daniel Jones conversation. Nichols, Ah,

1424
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: I see what you did there? Yeah, all right, well,

1425
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones no longer a member of the New York

1426
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: Football Giants. But here's the good news. Steve Desager is

1427
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: still part of our team. Will come back to Saga

1428
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: with his extended update. That's next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

1429
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1430
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: the tierrack dot Com studios, as we do every week

1431
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: around this time. Want to toss it over the news

1432
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: desk to Sager. Gotta say this USC currently trailing UCLA.

1433
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna give us updates if you see

1434
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: if USC finishes this year five and seven, because they

1435
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: have notre Dame next week off of what was last

1436
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: year eight and five, if you include the bowl game,

1437
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: so seven and five, last year five and seven, this

1438
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: year that has to be amongst the most disappointing two

1439
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: year stretches in college foot considering what the coaches paid

1440
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: last year, you were returning a Heisman trophy. That has

1441
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: to be among the back to back, most dissa pointing

1442
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: two year stretches of any team in history.

1443
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: That's person Clay Helton when you need him, I know,

1444
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: just reliable and the most back to back two year stretch.

1445
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 5: A disappointing two year stretch for USC football in about

1446
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 5: twenty five years since Pete Carroll was hired, because remember

1447
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: they were coming off a couple of bad seasons with

1448
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 5: Paul Hackett, and then Pete Carroll was hired and the

1449
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 5: first year they went nowhere, it was another six and

1450
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 5: six season and we were getting a retread in Los Angeles,

1451
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 5: et cetera. And then he became the Pete Carroll that

1452
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 5: we all knew and won what seven BCS Bowl games

1453
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 5: at all of.

1454
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: That, Paul, I don't remember the financials back in the day.

1455
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: Paul Hackett wasn't making eleven million dollars a.

1456
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 5: Year though, Yep, you're correct. And by the way, it

1457
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 5: was only three short seasons ago that with Clay Helton

1458
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: getting fired early in that year, it was a four

1459
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: and eight campaign for USC and they could finish five

1460
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 5: and seven, and as was pointed out by our Jason

1461
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 5: Smith on these airways last night, it is possible that

1462
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 5: the USC Trojans miss a bowl game again. They are

1463
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 5: down ten nine to UC mid third quarter at the

1464
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 5: Rose Bowl. And yes, it is going to be a

1465
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 5: Saturday afternoon game hosting Notre Dame next weekend. As far

1466
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 5: as the college football season, the end is near of

1467
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,879
Speaker 5: the regular season schedule.

1468
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: Guys.

1469
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 5: Now, the regular Army Navy game is going to be

1470
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 5: in mid December in landover Maryland. But it's the first

1471
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 5: weekend of December that we get the conference title games,

1472
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 5: most of them on Saturday. But there are three Friday

1473
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 5: night conference title games in early December. Army has one

1474
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 5: of them. Army is in the American Championship Game against Tulane.

1475
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 5: There are three games that Friday night, all at eight

1476
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: pm Eastern Time, one of them on Fox TV with

1477
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 5: Boise State hosting the Mountain West title game. It could

1478
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: be against Colorado State, which is five and zero conference play,

1479
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 5: but the Rams are losing twenty eight to seven at

1480
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 5: Fresno State right now, early in the third. The other

1481
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: late game is late in the third on FS one.

1482
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: Nevada at home leads twelve to seven over Air Force.

1483
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 5: As far as the first Saturday in December, the conference

1484
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 5: title games of note. First it'll be the Big twelve

1485
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 5: Championship game in Arlington, Texas.

1486
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: That'll be new in Eastern.

1487
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 5: Then four pm Eastern in Atlanta, Georgia is in the

1488
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 5: SEC championship game. We'll see whether it's against Texas or Texas.

1489
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 5: A and m Aggie's host the Longhorns next Saturday. The

1490
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 5: winner goes. And then there are a couple of conference

1491
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 5: title games on the first Saturday night of December, and yes,

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Speaker 5: SMU is in one of them. In Charlotte, they're in

1493
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 5: the ACC championship game their first year in that league.

1494
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: Playing at the same time in Indianapolis will be Oregon

1495
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 5: in the Big twelve Championship game.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say it. I'm mean to interrupt. I was

1497
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 2: on with Monsey and Steve Hartman earlier. I know everybody

1498
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: made fun of SMU for the whole not taking any

1499
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: TV money to basically buy to buy their way into

1500
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: the ACC. And it's like, I mean, it ain't my

1501
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: money that you know, somebody's obviously footing the bill. There's

1502
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: big boosters that are coming.

1503
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 5: Billy raised as soon as they said, hey, we get

1504
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 5: to go to the ACC.

1505
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: And you know, listen, people make fun of them. They

1506
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: could be the College Football Playoff. I think it's a

1507
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,879
Speaker 2: it's a quirky story, it's a very College Football East story.

1508
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: But they don't have any regrets about it. Is the

1509
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: point I.

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 5: Remember the background of this. Florida State was one of

1511
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 5: the teams that didn't want to add because they would

1512
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 5: take a piece of their pie. And so, okay, don't

1513
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 5: take any TV money and then we still get our

1514
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 5: big slice.

1515
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: And then what is Florida State right now? And SMMU

1516
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: is winning the league and SMU beat them up pretty good.

1517
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody beat up Florida State this year, but

1518
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, but sm you beat them. But yeah, it's

1519
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: just funny to me. You know, everybody mocked it. And oh,

1520
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: you know, you're trying to buy your way in. You

1521
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: think they if they're in the twelve team playoff this year,

1522
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: you think they care, right, you know?

1523
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, And by the way, it's only partial TV

1524
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 5: money for Stanford and col to get their way into

1525
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 5: the ACC. As far as Boise State, which is going

1526
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 5: to be on that Fox TV game hosting the Mountain

1527
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 5: West title game, it's only a couple weeks away, just

1528
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 5: less than that. The first Friday in December, Ashton genty

1529
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 5: and company barely won it. Wyoming tonight seventeen thirteen got

1530
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 5: a touchdown with about five minutes to go. The star

1531
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: running back with twenty carries one hundred and sixty nine yards,

1532
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 5: including a sixty one yard TV However, Boise State on

1533
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 5: third and fourth down conversions was one for twelve and

1534
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 5: again was trailing in the fourth quarter. But Wyoming now

1535
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 5: two to nine, Boise ten and one. Friday, they'll be

1536
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 5: playing on Fox TV hosting Oregon State, which, ladies and gentlemen,

1537
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 5: is your Pack twelve champion for twenty twenty four. They

1538
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 5: congratulation Washington State, the only other team in the league.

1539
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: Today.

1540
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 5: It was on a fifty five yard field goal in

1541
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 5: the last thirty seconds. The Oregon State Beavers win forty

1542
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 5: one thirty eight. They are one to zero in conference play.

1543
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,879
Speaker 2: And just last week we were talking, can does Washington

1544
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: State get the Group of five bid? You know, they

1545
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: were eight and one or whatever, nine and one and

1546
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: back to back losses.

1547
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 5: That's right, eight and three now. But about gent He

1548
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 5: is the first FBS player since Derrick Henry almost a

1549
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 5: decade ago, to have a season with two thousand yards

1550
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 5: rushing and twenty five rushing touchdowns and he's.

1551
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 3: Not done yet.

1552
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 5: And gent including tonight, has ten different runs for at

1553
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 5: least fifty yards this season. No one else in the

1554
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 5: country has more than four. Number two Ohio State pounded

1555
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 5: Number five Indiana thirty eight to fifteen. This was a

1556
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 5: thirty one to seven lead with two minutes ago. Buckey's

1557
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 5: defense had five sacks. The Hoosiers on the opening drive

1558
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 5: had a touchdown and you're thinking, my goodness, this could

1559
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 5: be quite a competitive game. And then the rest of

1560
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 5: the game happened after that opening drive. TD only eighty

1561
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 5: one total yards for the Indiana Hoosiers in eight drives,

1562
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 5: and Indiana hasn't beaten at Ohio State team since nineteen

1563
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 5: eighty eight.

1564
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: Still.

1565
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 5: Next Saturday, Ohio State host Michigan noon Eastern time, Fox TV.

1566
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 5: Number three Texas thirty one to fourteen over Kentucky, which

1567
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 5: is one in seven in the SEC. Texas defense with

1568
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 5: six sacks. Longhorns led twenty four to seven at the half.

1569
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 5: Texas six and one in conference. They'll be at five

1570
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 5: and two Texas A and M next Saturday. A and

1571
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: M's lost to of three. The winner goes to the

1572
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 5: SEC Championship Game four rank Penn State won twenty six

1573
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 5: to twenty five. At Minnesota, Penn State trail ten to

1574
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 5: nothing in the second quarter. Today Minnesota's four and four

1575
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 5: in conference. There was college football at Yankee Stadium tonight,

1576
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 5: Notre Dame hosting Army just like the old old days,

1577
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 5: forty nine to fourteen. Notre Dame the final Army four

1578
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 5: of nine, passing just like the old old days, twenty

1579
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 5: six yards through the air. Meanwhile, Notre Dame had five

1580
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,879
Speaker 5: touchdown runs. The Irish as a team twenty nine carries

1581
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: two hundred and seventy three yards. They just could not

1582
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 5: be stopped. Notre Dame drove into the red zone on

1583
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 5: nine of their ten drives tonight on third down conversions

1584
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 5: the Irish fourteen of eighteen again Notre Dame. At USC

1585
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 5: Next Saturday afternoon, Alabama lost at Oklahoma. Old Miss lost

1586
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: at Florida and Auburn in four overtimes beats Texas, A

1587
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 5: and M.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager. Great update, busy night,

1589
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: crazy day across college football NFL. Of course, coming up

1590
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Speaker 2: here week twelve on Sunday Tourism Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are taking you up till two am etern We'll

1592
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Speaker 2: come back and we will recap a wild Saturday in

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Speaker 2: college football. Daniel Jones, NFL More Fox Sportsdio, you're.

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Speaker 2: fifty eight minutes of more awesome content. One really interesting

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Speaker 2: game of notes still going on in college football. UCLA

1606
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: has just kicked a field goal thirteen to nine lead

1607
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: over USC. Jaybar I want to get to the playoff

1608
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 2: picture because it was just insanity today or on Saturday,

1609
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: but I said it a second ago. If USC does

1610
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 2: not go to a bowl game a year after going

1611
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: seven to five with the reigning Heisman Trophy winner based

1612
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: on what Lincoln Riley is being paid, that's gotta go

1613
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: down as one of the worst two year stretches for

1614
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: any team, any program, any coach in college football. I

1615
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: don't have context as to what would be worse, but

1616
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: that's got to be in the short conversation.

1617
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you talk about money not well spent.

1618
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 3: You look at that record. I mean, I think the

1619
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 3: only money that's been worse spent this year at that

1620
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: point in time would be the Democrats paying for Kamala

1621
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: Harris's campaign, because we were over a billion dollars for

1622
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: her to get selected. So you look at it from

1623
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: that perspective. But loose to you CLA as well, like,

1624
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 3: who boy, you could pay a lot of people to

1625
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: have that record at USC you can save a lot

1626
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 3: a lot of money on top of that. And again,

1627
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: what did I tell you? What did I say like

1628
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: a month ago, I think we could rather me leave

1629
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: on his own record because this ain't fun. It wasn't

1630
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: fun to go to Minnesota and lose. It's not fun

1631
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 3: to go to the Midwest and get beat, and you

1632
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 3: go get beat by UCLA. UCLA's the one supposed to

1633
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: be laughing stock. Entering the Big Ten, but they're not.

1634
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: You are, like it's an embarrassment at this point, Like

1635
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: that's I know, you lose some talented guys, I understand this,

1636
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: but you didn't win with him last year either, and

1637
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: the bloom just keeps falling more and more off the

1638
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley rose right now, think about what we thought

1639
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: of him three years.

1640
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Ago, oh no doubt, and what we think of him

1641
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 2: right now. I mean the shock of that hire. By

1642
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: the way, I was trying to think of a clever

1643
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: how much would USC pay for an endorsement from Beyonce

1644
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: right now? But nothing came to me right now. So anyway,

1645
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: neither here nor there, but didn't work.

1646
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 3: Didn't work either way.

1647
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, it didn't work either way. So but no,

1648
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know and and Bo Benson,

1649
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: who's still with Fox Sports Radio, doesn't do this shit.

1650
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: But I remember the three of us being on a

1651
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 2: text chain the day that Lincoln Riley got hired, and

1652
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: and and I live in La Bow lives in La

1653
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a USC fan or a lum, but it

1654
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: was just such an earth shattering moment. And Jamar, remember

1655
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: we were on air, Remember we were on air, the

1656
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: night before it was bedlam. It was Oklahoma loses to

1657
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and Lincoln Riley had the famous press conference

1658
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: where he said, I Am not going to be the

1659
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: next LSU head coach because he was in you know,

1660
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: people thought he was going to LSU. And then you know,

1661
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: I remember, I mean Bo was actually the one that

1662
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: told me I was offline and I saw it. I

1663
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: was like, this can't be right. And you know, you

1664
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: check the Twitter feed to make sure that it's it's

1665
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: an authorized to count and all that, and it is

1666
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 2: just crazy to think, like you said, like like the

1667
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: excitement that that brought UH to this program. It was

1668
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: obviously before anybody knew that USC was headed for the

1669
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: pack from the Pac twelve to the Big ten. But

1670
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: it just doesn't change the fact that to me, I

1671
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: just think and by the way, it's you know, it's

1672
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: thirteen to nine. It's not as though they can't come

1673
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: back from this deficit. But you know, seven and five

1674
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: last year, like I said, with the raining Heisman Trophy winner,

1675
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: eight and five with a meaningless bowl game, and they're

1676
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: five and five right now. They got to either win

1677
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: this one and if they don't, they got to beat

1678
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 2: Notre Dame next week. And by the way, perfect segue.

1679
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: If they beat Notre Dame, it would just create more

1680
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: college football chaos because Saturday was the day we've been

1681
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 2: waiting for, the chaotic day of all chaotic days to say.

1682
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: Got two of them this year, Aaron, the first one.

1683
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: You were off that's right, I sure, Wow, we have

1684
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: this one. There have been two of these Saturdays, but

1685
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 3: this one, because of its you know, relative location in

1686
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: terms of the end of the season, Yeah, ends up

1687
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: having so much more meaning.

1688
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: No, it's no doubt, and I think that was I

1689
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: think that that's the big thing, right is Alabama loses

1690
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: to Vandy a few weeks ago, a night that I

1691
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: was off air, and we don't have the context. You know,

1692
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: you sit there, remember as an outsider, because I wasn't

1693
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: on air with you saying I get that it's Vandy,

1694
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: but I feel like this is an overreaction. It's a

1695
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff era. Alabama's gonna be fine. All they

1696
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: got to do is take care of business from here.

1697
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: And then, even after they lost to Tennessee a week

1698
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: or two later, he said, well, you know what, if

1699
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: they went out, they'll be okay, and so you look

1700
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: at today, you look at Saturday knowing what was at stake,

1701
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 2: knowing that we went into the day with this conversation

1702
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: about if Indiana loses big to Ohio State, what does

1703
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: it possibly mean and should they be in Assuming Ole

1704
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: misses a ten and a half point favorite, is gonna

1705
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: take care of Florida? They don't. Assuming Alabama as a

1706
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: double digit favorite, is gonna take care of Oklahoma? They don't.

1707
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: And of course after that Texas A and M. It

1708
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: was a game that you texted producer Ian and I

1709
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: about early in the day saying, I'm not a gambler,

1710
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: but what what am I missing? What am I missing

1711
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: about this point spread? Because it was a one, one

1712
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: and a half point spread throughout the day, and so

1713
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: it was an insane day of college football. And it's crazy,

1714
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: j Mart, because you know, one, you and I both

1715
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: love college football, but usually I feel like we have

1716
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea of not really what the story

1717
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: are or what the story is, but I think, more importantly,

1718
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: like how to contextualize it. I don't know how to

1719
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: contextualize today and what it means for the twelve team playoff.

1720
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: And admittedly we still have games of note, next week,

1721
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: Tennessee could lose to Vandy, Notre Dame could lose to

1722
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: USC Texas could lose. You go on and on down

1723
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: the list. But it's like, now, all of a sudden,

1724
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 2: you look up and if we're we are under the

1725
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 2: assumption that the three loss SEC team isn't getting in,

1726
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,480
Speaker 2: then it's kind of hard to fight all these qualified

1727
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: teams to get in because again, Texas A and M

1728
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: took a third loss. You think they're out unless they

1729
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 2: win the SEC and they still have a possibility to

1730
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 2: get there if they beat Texas next week. You know,

1731
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,879
Speaker 2: obviously Alabama are on the wrong side of that bubble,

1732
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: the proverbial bubble, the first time we've been able to

1733
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 2: use that in college football. Like, I think that's the

1734
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: crazy part for me. Jmart Is like, I don't know

1735
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: how to contextualize this because at this point we are

1736
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 2: now going through resumes of teams that probably shouldn't be

1737
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 2: in the playoff conversation that, because of the chaos of today,

1738
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 2: probably still are.

1739
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, there's no universe where somebody could have even

1740
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 3: a mildly reasonable take in terms of the way they

1741
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: would slot the twelve teams. There's no universe where that's

1742
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: going to be perfect. But there's also no universe where

1743
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 3: I won't listen to several different arguments because there are

1744
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 3: so many undistinguished members of whatever this twelve is going

1745
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 3: to be. There are flaws throughout. And then, as we

1746
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier in the show, if you don't make it,

1747
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 3: that's on you. Yeah, because you had the opportunity because

1748
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 3: everybody else was losing around you. All you had to

1749
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: do was win, and you couldn't do that. We definitely

1750
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: thought after the way Indiana lost, and you know, we

1751
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 3: haven't even ment this yet, but I did say this

1752
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 3: to you as it happened, pretty much the punt fumble

1753
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 3: situation at the end of the first half of Indiana

1754
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: Ohio State. As soon as it happened, I said, well,

1755
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: we're about to find out how good Indiana really is

1756
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 3: because most teams are gonna fall apart right here, sure,

1757
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 3: and indianafl apart and they got absolutely crushed in the

1758
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 3: second half. And then it was they're you know, they're

1759
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: they're really gonna have a tough case assuming all the rest,

1760
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 3: and then nothing else happened. So I think the most

1761
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 3: interesting probably takeaway from the day is that Indiana is

1762
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: almost surely going to be in now even after that,

1763
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 3: and they still don't have a loss. That's particularly impressive.

1764
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 3: But then you look across these SEC teams have done

1765
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: exactly what Indiana needed. Indiana was gonna need some help,

1766
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 3: and they've gotten it from every direction. And it may

1767
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: not be over now. They'll have to win a game

1768
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: next week. But based on what we saw today and

1769
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: what we've seen on one other Saturday this year, I

1770
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 3: think that it is fair to say that there is

1771
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: not a single team that should feel particularly good a

1772
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: fan base that feels particularly good going into next week.

1773
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 3: Don't feel over confident, because it could be you next week,

1774
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: just like it was all these teams this week. Like

1775
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 3: if you still have to win something in order to qualify,

1776
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, do what you have to do this week,

1777
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 3: but don't get over confident. If anybody shows up that way,

1778
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 3: they're gonna get beat. Because this is college football. It's

1779
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 3: not the old college football. There's depth everywhere, but there's

1780
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: not the same level of depth. So you don't have

1781
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 3: guys sitting there at their third string that are waiting.

1782
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 3: Those guys are playing somewhere else. They're playing at SMU

1783
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 3: they're playing at Miami, They're playing somewhere that is making,

1784
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 3: they're playing at Arizona State. All of those kinds of

1785
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 3: things have changed the just the outlook and the landscape

1786
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 3: and the horizon of college football. We're better for it

1787
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 3: in terms of a product, in terms of just we

1788
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen from week to week.

1789
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: I think this is the chaos of this year has

1790
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 3: been a lot of fun, even if the regular season

1791
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 3: hasn't had quite as much meaning. But when you know,

1792
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: you talked about it when they lost to Vanderbilt, we

1793
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: might be overrating that. As it relates to Alabama, well,

1794
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: we were right up until they lost a couple more.

1795
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing if you see them

1796
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 3: lose once, and I think when we saw Alabama lose

1797
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: that game, it was okay. The like whatever that aura

1798
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,879
Speaker 3: was that Bama had is shattered right here, Like somebody

1799
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: else can beat them on the right day because they

1800
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: are flawed. They don't have as much talent as they have,

1801
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 3: and they go as Milrow goes. And mil Roe played

1802
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 3: awful against Oklahoma. Now they made it tough on him,

1803
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: but he played terribly. And that's an Oklahoma team that

1804
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 3: has done nothing of note all year, and they didn't

1805
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 3: just beat Alabama, they dominated Alabama, and to me, that

1806
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 3: is disqualifying from the College Football Playoff.

1807
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 2: Joey Elbows, by the way, loved your commentary to lead

1808
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: the hour. He said, j Mart shots fire and just

1809
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 2: tweeted that out through Fox Sports Radio real quick. This

1810
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 2: isn't the sexiest way to do it, but I want

1811
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 2: to go through like what the bracket look like coming

1812
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 2: into today and just if everybody wins out, like who

1813
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: is in and who is out? So Oregon is eleven

1814
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: and zero, I don't see any way that they are

1815
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 2: not in the College Football Playoff. They, by the way,

1816
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: have already clinched a bid to the Big Ten Championship Game.

1817
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: If Ohio State wins next week against Michigan, they'll play

1818
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 2: Ohio State. So Texas at number two. Let me ask

1819
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 2: you this. If Texas loses next week, Texas number two

1820
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: in the bracket because they're the presumed SEC champ. If

1821
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Texas loses next week, they'll be ten and two, zero

1822
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: wins over. Anybody in the top twenty five will not

1823
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: play for the Big Ten Big SEC Championship Game. Excuse me,

1824
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: I know it's hard without the contact of knowing what

1825
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 2: everybody else has done. Do you think it'd be automatic

1826
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: that Texas would be in or do you think they

1827
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: need more help or they'd be in that bubble of

1828
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 2: the three loss Old miss the three loss Alabama, and

1829
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: the two loss Texas with basically zero good wins.

1830
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 3: I think they're in sure, Okay, I just think they're in.

1831
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 3: I think that two losses when you look at the

1832
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 3: three losses for some of these, like Old Missus three losses,

1833
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: unfortunately for them are all against unranked teams. That I mean,

1834
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: Florida has gotten better, no question. Lagway deserves credit, Napier

1835
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 3: deserves credit. That team deserves a lot of credit for

1836
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: just not quitting, for playing for their coach. A lot

1837
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: of pride there, and I think some uplifting stuff if

1838
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 3: you're a Florida fan going into the future, especially with

1839
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Lagway as your quarterback. But you know, you look at

1840
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Old Mess and you look at some of this Bama stuff,

1841
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 3: and you look at A and M if A and

1842
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: M beats them, and I hope that doesn't happen just

1843
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 3: because I don't want to see A and M part

1844
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 3: of this. I just don't. I don't. I don't think

1845
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 3: they've they've earned that in my own mind in terms

1846
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 3: of the eye test, I just look at Texas and say,

1847
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 3: I think Texas gets in even with a week schedule,

1848
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 3: even if they do lose that game, just because there's

1849
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 3: not anybody else that you could make a great argument

1850
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 3: for in place of them, Because I think Indiana's already

1851
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 3: in now, Penn State and Ohio State are certainly gonna

1852
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: be in, and Oregon, so you're probably already gonna have

1853
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: your four right there from the Big ten, and then

1854
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 3: you're gonna have your conference champion, and you're gonna have

1855
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 3: the top you know, group of five or outside of that,

1856
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 3: and then of course you'll have Notre Dame. And I

1857
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: just don't see a scenario where Texas is not in.

1858
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So I did some back of the envelope math

1859
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 2: while you were speaking there. So right now, and we're

1860
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 2: assuming there's no crazy upsets, Penn State doesn't lose its

1861
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: final game, Indiana doesn't lose to Purdue, who's terrible. I

1862
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: have Oregon in Ohio State, in Penn State, in Indiana

1863
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 2: in so that's four. I have Georgia in I do

1864
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 2: I don't think even if they lose in the SEC

1865
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 2: title game, and they would obviously at that point, you know,

1866
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: have a third loss. I think, let me put it

1867
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 2: this way, I think Georgia as a three loss team

1868
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: even if they lose in the SEC Championship game. By

1869
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: the way, that's assuming they beat Georgia Tech, who has

1870
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,839
Speaker 2: some interesting wins this week or this year. But assuming

1871
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: they beat Georgia Tech, I think even a loss in

1872
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game puts them in. So I have

1873
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 2: Georgia in, I have Tennessee in if they beat Vandy

1874
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 2: next week, and I have Texas in.

1875
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 3: So that's I just have those three. I agree with you.

1876
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: So that's seven right there. Notre Dame if they beat

1877
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: USC next week is eight. The ACC champ is nine,

1878
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve champ is ten, the Group of Five

1879
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 2: champ is eleven. So that means either A and M.

1880
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 2: If I guess if A and M made the conference

1881
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: championship game and lose, you could make and argue for them.

1882
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: I guess if A and M were to win next week,

1883
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: as crazy as it sounds, because they could be a

1884
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 2: four loss team, you'd have to put them in over

1885
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: Texas at that point, So I guess A and m

1886
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 2: if they were to win, would be the twelfth team.

1887
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: If not, I think you're either looking at a three

1888
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: loss Old Miss, a three loss Alabama, a two loss

1889
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 2: ACC runner up.

1890
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I see, I think that's the answer. Yes,

1891
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 3: I think that. I think in that scenario, SMU and

1892
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Miami probably both get in. That's that's just my that's

1893
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 3: just my gut feeling on it.

1894
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: That that would have to be it. By the way,

1895
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't. I'd have to let me

1896
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 2: look really quick, because I saw Stuart Mandel from The

1897
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: Athletic make the argument if Clemson were to beat South

1898
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: Carolina next week, I'm trying to see Clemson would still

1899
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 2: only have one win over a team currently ranked I

1900
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: think so. By the way, for people who don't know

1901
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: the ACC setup, SMU has clinched a spot in the

1902
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: a SEC Championship game. Miami would clinch with a win

1903
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 2: next week they play at Syracuse. If they were to

1904
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 2: lose and Clemson were to win, then Clemson would be

1905
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: in the ACC Championship game. If Miami wins, Miami is

1906
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 2: in against SMU. So I saw Stuart Mandell bring up

1907
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: the argument for two loss Clemson if they beat South Carolina.

1908
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 2: I think that's a tough argument, but I do. I'm

1909
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: with you is let's say Texas beats Texas A and

1910
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 2: M next week, Texas A and M would pick up

1911
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: their fourth loss, they'd definitely be out. I do think

1912
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Speaker 2: that SMU Miami winner, I think probably would have to

1913
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 2: have the inside track if both those teams win on Saturday,

1914
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: if they go into the seas, if they go into

1915
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Speaker 2: the ACC Championship game with one loss apiece, I would

1916
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: think that they would have the inside track. Jmar, we're

1917
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: running up against it. Any last quick thoughts on just

1918
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Speaker 2: the chaos of Saturday and what lies ahead these next

1919
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Speaker 2: couple weeks.

1920
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Speaker 3: Definitely a couple disappointing things just from like a it's

1921
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 3: kind of a bummer. I was kind of hoping to

1922
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 3: see it. Colorado is not going to get in now

1923
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 3: and or we don't think so, and that's that loss

1924
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: that stanks. But Kansas has done that now a couple

1925
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 3: weeks in a row to some hopefuls. That's unfortunate. Probably

1926
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 3: still gonna get the Heisman Trophy winner out of that school,

1927
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 3: but may not see them in a playoff now. And

1928
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to be disappointed, I think, I mean,

1929
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 3: I think old Missus roster and the way that they

1930
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 3: were trending for them to lose, that's disappointing because I

1931
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 3: wanted to see them in a playoff because I thought

1932
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 3: they could have done a lot of damage. But Jackson

1933
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 3: Dark came apart in the last you know, a handful

1934
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 3: of minutes of that game, just decided he wanted to

1935
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: throw to everybody wearing the opposite jersey and fling. Yeah, yeah,

1936
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 3: that's right. When they got over they kept getting opportunities

1937
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 3: and still he was like, no, I'm gonna throw to

1938
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 3: one of those guys, and he finally did. But yeah,

1939
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 3: just kind of a bummer. A couple of teams that

1940
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have seen in the college

1941
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 3: football playoff that we're not going to see. But outside

1942
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 3: of that, you know, hold on to your butts because

1943
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 3: a week from today, chaos could continue, and I'm there's

1944
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 3: no reason to think that it will not.

1945
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no, It's it's a crazy Saturday in college football.

1946
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: And I will say I do think it sets up

1947
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 2: for a very interesting conversation about that twelfth spot. Again,

1948
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: I think the scenario that has to go down for

1949
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 2: the twelfth spot to really be up for grabs. Obviously,

1950
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: no crazy upsets, no Penn State losing, no Indiana losing,

1951
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 2: no Tennessee losing, etc. But if Texas were to be

1952
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 2: Texas A and M next week and face Georgia in

1953
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game, then that does set up just

1954
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 2: a very interesting scenario over what the committee would do

1955
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 2: with the twelfth spot. Would it go to a two

1956
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 2: loss ACC runner up, would it go to a two

1957
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: loss Clemson in it playing the ACC Championship game, or

1958
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: would it possibly go to a three loss SEC team.

1959
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra Towards Jason Bartin broadcasting live from

1960
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Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com Studios. Crazy day of college football,

1961
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 2: also a crazy week for Daniel Jones. We'll come back

1962
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 2: discuss the chaos in New York Part two. Done with

1963
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 2: the Jets onto the Giants. That's next. Fox Sports Radio,

1964
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 2: Come back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres Jason Martin,

1965
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com Studios. No, it's

1966
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: not back Daniel Jones. I mean he's back on the

1967
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 2: open market. But very interesting news this week, by the way.

1968
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: Keeping the updated on the USC UCLA game. The last

1969
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 2: real game of note in college football. USC is driving.

1970
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: They trail in the third quarter, or we must be

1971
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: in the fourth by now. At fourth quarter seven minutes left,

1972
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: USC trails thirteen to nine. They are in the red zone,

1973
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: trying to punch it in, trying to get to six

1974
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: and five in bowl eligible with a win. UCLA is

1975
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: four and six, so they obviously need to win their

1976
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: next two to get bowl eligible. They close with Fresno

1977
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: next week, and we have potentially a touchdown. It is

1978
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 2: called a touchdown on the field. Jada Mayava to I

1979
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 2: believe Kyle Ford, Maybe I don't, Jacoby Lane. According to

1980
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 2: producer Ian we'll see if it holds. Uh, it looks

1981
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: like you got to foot in the USC does take

1982
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 2: the lead if the touchdown stands.

1983
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 3: I would take issue with you saying that's a game

1984
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 3: of note.

1985
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: It's a big rivalry.

1986
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 3: It's a rivalry. I don't think it's of note, well,

1987
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 3: not to the rest of college football, not not to

1988
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: like the country that's paying attention to what's actually happening. Like,

1989
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 3: the only reason it's of note is if they were

1990
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 3: going to lose. I guess only because the Lincoln Riley

1991
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 3: side of it. But I don't think it's of note.

1992
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 3: I think that's giving it too much credit.

1993
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 2: Wow, shots fired, taking a lot of shots this hour, Jamie,

1994
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 2: we want to do.

1995
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1996
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 2: Well, if you miss J Mart's last shot, and I

1997
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 2: won't even say at who, you gotta download the podcast.

1998
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up.

1999
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: And if you missed any of today's show or J

2000
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 2: Mart just throwing darts left and right at everybody watch out,

2001
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox

2002
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2003
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2004
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Speaker 2: search sports Ready wherever you get your podcast, and you'll

2005
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 2: see this show posted right after we get off air.

2006
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: The touchdown does stand. USC kicks the extra point. They're

2007
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,600
Speaker 2: up sixteen thirteen with six fifty five left. I do

2008
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: want to get to Daniel Jones, but I'll say this,

2009
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 2: if anyone has watched USC at all this year, I

2010
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 2: think we all know how this will probably possibly very

2011
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: likely end. But glasses half full, glasses half full. We'll

2012
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: see what happens with the rest of the game. Six

2013
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 2: fifty five left in the game, All right, J Mart,

2014
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones in all seriousness, everybody knows the story by now,

2015
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 2: you know released earlier this week, went through waivers. He's

2016
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 2: gonna be a restrictive free agent all that. Just you know,

2017
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: you seem fired up to talk about it. So where

2018
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 2: were you? What did you do? By the way, I

2019
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: loved how Daniel Jones did a goodbye press conference like

2020
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: he had been there, like one like Eli and won

2021
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of Super Bowls. It's like, I don't know,

2022
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 2: felt that felt weird, But anyway, go ahead, give me,

2023
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 2: give me, give me some thoughts on the end of

2024
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: the Daniel Jones here.

2025
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 3: All right, So I'm gonna start with the question. This

2026
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 3: is the question that I've thought about since this happened.

2027
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 3: And I mean, I was a little shocked that it's

2028
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 3: just that he was going to be released. Sure, you know,

2029
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 3: he'd asked for be granted to release that, and I

2030
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 3: got it through a Fox email like I get a

2031
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 3: lot of breaking news. Actually I might have got him

2032
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 3: from the Four Letters website also. But this is my question.

2033
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: So I'm seeing articles about he wants to he said

2034
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 3: he wants to go to a playoff contender and all

2035
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: these other things. Tell me the fan base in the

2036
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 3: NFL it's gonna be like, man, finally, when Daniel Jones

2037
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 3: signs with your team, Like, what is the fan base

2038
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 3: that that's going to be an exciting thing? And I'm

2039
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 3: not even saying he undeserve a answer. I mean we've

2040
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 3: seen this and we've seen some you know, reclamation projects.

2041
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 3: Gino Smith came from nowhere. Ryan Tannehill had a nice

2042
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 3: career in Tennessee. Like you've seen some of.

2043
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: This, stay backup for a long time.

2044
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 3: Right for right, I mean you've seen it. I mean,

2045
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Darnold's had a pretty decent season in Minnesota. Like you've

2046
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 3: seen some of this, But like, what's the fan base

2047
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 3: that that's gonna get jazzed because Daniel Jones is the quarterback?

2048
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not even suggesting a playoff contender. I was

2049
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 3: thinking about spots. I'm like, well, I mean you could

2050
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 3: go to Carolina, he could go to Tennessee. He go

2051
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 3: to these places, but none of these places are gonna

2052
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 3: like you're not bringing in Daniel Jones to win a

2053
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 3: bunch of football games. He Like, I don't see it,

2054
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand it's a weird place to be

2055
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 3: because I don't since a fan base that would be

2056
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 3: at all excited that he was coming to town, Like,

2057
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 3: is he coming in as a backup for a playoff contender?

2058
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Is that what we're trying to talk about here, because

2059
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: I mean they paid big money a couple of years ago,

2060
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 3: and now they're just dropping him off. Like he's like

2061
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 3: the new Carson Wentz Sure and some of the places

2062
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 3: he can go, they've already kind of gone and found

2063
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 3: a guy similar, Like you got Derek Carr with the Saints.

2064
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 3: You've got a couple of these spots. But like, where

2065
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: where is he going to land? Where is it that

2066
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,839
Speaker 3: he's going to go? Where it's gonna be a good scenario.

2067
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna pu him in Jacksonville, You're gonna bring him

2068
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 3: in with Indianapolis exactly right. I mean like he's saying

2069
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 3: wants to go to a playoff contender to do what

2070
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 3: like to work in the march booth? Yeah, Like what

2071
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't understand, like where he is supposed to go

2072
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 3: where that's supposed to work out? Like, and again your

2073
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 3: fan base brings in Daniel Jones, I mean, are you

2074
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,600
Speaker 3: canceling your season tickets at that point in time? Like

2075
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 3: what's happening at that point? No?

2076
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what to say because I

2077
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 2: don't believe that there's a place that you know, meets

2078
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: the criteria of being a playoff contender that would want

2079
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: him as their starting quarterback. You know, it's almost not

2080
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: quite the same, but it is a little bit the

2081
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 2: same as what we talked about last hour with Aaron Rodgers.

2082
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Is you know, whether it's Rex ra whoever it is

2083
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 2: that's the next New York Jets head coach, it's like, one,

2084
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: do you want him? By the way, USC has made

2085
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 2: a fourth down stop inside UCLA territory, so they're gonna

2086
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 2: get the ball back in UCLA territory, basically a chance

2087
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 2: to ice the game. They're up by three, sixteen thirteen

2088
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: with about five minutes to go and this one, so

2089
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated on that. But no, the Daniel

2090
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 2: Jones thing, That's what it reminds me of is Aaron Rodgers.

2091
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you know, Aaron Rodgers seems to

2092
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: want to play next year. It sounds like the Jets

2093
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: may be ready to move on and just rebuild the organization.

2094
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know who wants to sign

2095
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and deal with everything that comes with him

2096
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones obviously there's not anything that comes with

2097
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: him in a.

2098
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 3: Night, there's no bage's Yeah, nuts, that's what it is,

2099
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 3: Like I mean, and like, what's the fan base where

2100
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 3: it's like, well, he's better than what we had, Yeah,

2101
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 3: but that's not what you want as a fan, Like

2102
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: you don't want to be just better than what you had,

2103
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 3: And you still don't think that guy can win a

2104
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Like, where's the fan base where he's gonna

2105
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: go win a Super you go into the going to

2106
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 3: the Raiders, Like, I just don't know. I don't, I don't.

2107
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Like I feel bad for Daniel Jones.

2108
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,879
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to like prove himself in another location

2109
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 3: that's not going to be excited for him.

2110
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand his sentiment. I think, listen, you know

2111
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: what I think he is and this isn't and this

2112
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 2: isn't an insult, it's not even a bad thing. I

2113
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 2: just think he's an above average backup and by the way,

2114
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,799
Speaker 2: that can be a very lucrative way to live. I mean, listen,

2115
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 2: you know the guy that I was used as an example,

2116
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky. I mean, you know a guy played ten, twelve,

2117
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 2: fifteen years in the league and just cash a check

2118
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: for a million dollars a year, two million dollars a year,

2119
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: whatever he was getting paid. You know, it didn't really

2120
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: take very many hits. I mean, you know, obviously he

2121
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 2: had the Thanksgiving Day debacle with the with the Detroit Lions,

2122
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 2: but like, that's not a bad way to live. And

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Speaker 2: and and backup quarterbacks that can play if they're thrown

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Speaker 2: into the fire and not be mediocre. You know, they

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01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 2: are a valuable commodity. I just I don't listen. He

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01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 2: can wish and dream and do whatever he wants. I

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01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 2: just don't think he's a starting quarterback in this league.

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01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 2: And so I don't know where the spot would be.

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01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: You know, I do think, though, go to listen. If

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Speaker 2: I was him, what I what I would actually advise him.

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01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,520
Speaker 2: What's interesting is I would advise him the exact opposite.

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01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Go someplace where like pick a spot where the quarterback

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01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 2: situation isn't set and where you could get an opportunity.

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01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: Like if I was his agent, I would tell him, hey,

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01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: maybe the Cleveland Browns need to back up. I know

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01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 2: Jameson I thought.

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01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: About Cleveland, but I mean do you want Daniel Jones again?

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01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Would you rather just have Jamis? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean I wrote with Jamis the way he's playing

2140
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 2: right now. But like that's the example of the kind

2141
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 2: of team that if I was Daniel Jones I would

2142
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 2: want to go to, Like how about you know whatever

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01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Los Angeles rams like like a place where you know

2144
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 2: that's probably not the best, like the Miami Dolphins, perfect example,

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01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 2: who's the who's their backup? Skyler Thompson. I think Daniel

2146
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Jones is better than Skyler Thompson, So go you never

2147
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 2: root for an injury for two of them in.

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Speaker 3: A second though, based on like I'm not disagreeing with

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01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 3: anything you're saying, You're gonna disagree though, Tom, is it

2150
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 3: that the Giants paid money to somebody we're talking about

2151
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 3: like this, Well, think about the money that they that

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01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 3: he wins one playoff game, they end up paying him

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01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 3: in that offseason, and you're saying, I think he's better

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01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 3: than Skyler Thompson.

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01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 2: It's like, what are we doing here? Well, and this

2156
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 2: goes this is you know, sometimes you know, we all

2157
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 2: have takes, and this is one of my takes that

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01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: has held up very well, is do you remember Obviously

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01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: you remember too, because it was the only thing going

2160
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: on in sports at that time two summers ago, when

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01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 2: Saquon made the huge stink about not getting paid and

2162
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 2: there was the whole discourse about running backs and where

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01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 2: do they stand in it up? Yeah, and I said,

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01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: I think, I said this, and I truly believe I said,

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01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:57,720
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason Saquon's so mad is

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01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 2: not just because of the running back market, because this

2167
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 2: because of that. It's because you have just paid the

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Speaker 2: quarterback a two year contract forty million dollars a year,

2169
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: and he's sitting there saying, I impact winning more than

2170
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 2: he does, and so it's it doesn't matter now. But

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 2: you see just how valuable Saquon was. You see why

2172
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: he would be mad when Daniel Jones gets forty million

2173
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 2: dollars a year. But you're gonna penny pinch with him,

2174
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 2: and it's obviously worked out for the best for him.

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01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean, yeah, I'm I'm publicly saying yeah,

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01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 2: he's better than Skyler Thompson, as if it's some amazing

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01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 2: thing for a guy that he just paid forty million

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01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 2: dollars to j Martin.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you can go to San Francisco. That was

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01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 3: what I thought of, I mean, Oliver, I mean with

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01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 3: party being hurt and just the constant discourse surrounding it

2182
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 3: or whatever. Maybe he goes in and he's a backup

2183
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 3: for you that that you know, has starting experience in

2184
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 3: a league. And look, this dude is a top ten

2185
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 3: draft pick that at times has shown some flashes. Maybe

2186
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 3: he needs to change the scenery. He wasn't built for

2187
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 3: New York. Who knows, but his name is in the

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01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 3: toilet right now, Like, it is amazing to see how

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01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: precipitous that fall has been. And as soon as Saquon left,

2190
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: you realize, oh, they have Milak neighbors, and they have

2191
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 3: Milak neighbors and that's about him.

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01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 2: Nope, And it speaks to who he was and what

2193
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 2: the limitations were. And again I go back to the

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01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: Saquon thing. I think, in hindsight, it's obvious why he

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01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: was so frustrated. But Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin,

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01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee tireq dot com studios, let's toss

2197
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Speaker 2: it over a news desk final time this evening. Steve

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01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,839
Speaker 2: Seger tell us, what is trending?

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Speaker 5: We've got three late games in college football. Usc is

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01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 5: driving there in field goal range and leading at UCLA

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01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 5: sixteen thirteen with under four minutes to go. A Trojan's

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01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 5: win would put them at six and five Bowl eligible,

2203
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 5: as is Michigan and Nebraska after wins today. Also on

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01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 5: FS one right now about a minute to goo. Nevada

2205
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 5: winless in the Mountain West, is losing. They've given up

2206
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 5: a couple of touchdowns to air Force in the fourth quarter.

2207
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 5: Air Force Academy twenty to twelve in the lead. Colorado

2208
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 5: State's five and oh in the Mountain West, but they've

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 5: been down all night. They're losing at Fresno State twenty

2210
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 5: eight to fourteen with nine and a half minutes to play.

2211
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 5: Twelve rank Boise State already was a winner at Wyoming

2212
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 5: seventeen thirteen on a touchdown with about five minutes to go.

2213
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 5: Ashton gent one hundred and sixty nine yards rushing and

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 5: that includes a sixty one yard TD. Texas with a

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01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 5: win Miami, Georgia and Tennessee each one. Georgia is going

2216
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 5: to the SEC title game in Atlanta in a couple

2217
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 5: of weeks because Alabama lost and Old Miss lost, and

2218
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 5: Texas a and M lost in four overtimes at Auburn

2219
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 5: tonight forty three forty one A and M dropped a

2220
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 5: two point pass at the end. The Old Miss defeat

2221
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 5: was at Florida twenty four to seventeen. Jackson Dart had

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01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 5: two touchdown passes but two late interceptions as well. Old

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Speaker 5: Miss just four and three in Conference Alabama four and

2224
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 5: three in Conference seventh thrank BAMA lost twenty four to

2225
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 5: three at Oklahoma. That game was three to three late

2226
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 5: in the first halft Jalen Milroe through three interceptions, including

2227
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 5: a pick six. Meanwhile, the Sooners quarterback Jackson Arnold twenty

2228
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 5: five carries one hundred and thirty one yards rushing. Bama's

2229
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 5: offense ten drives, only thirteen first downs against an Oklahoma

2230
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 5: team that had been one in five in its first

2231
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 5: year in the SEC. Dominance by Notre Dame over Army

2232
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 5: at Yankee Stadium tonight forty nine to fourteen. It'll be

2233
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 5: Notre Dame at USC next Saturday afternoon to end the

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 5: regular season. Number two Ohio State blitz. Number five Indiana

2235
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 5: thirty eight to fifteen. Fourth rank Penn State won twenty

2236
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 5: six twenty five at Minnesota. Also, it was SMU ranked thirteenth,

2237
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 5: winning thirty three to seven at Virginia. The SMU defense

2238
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 5: with nine sacks. The Mustangs are seven and o in

2239
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 5: the ACC. They finished by hosting col next Saturday. Cal

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01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 5: with a couple of fourth quarter tds beat rival Stanford

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01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 5: in an ACC game today, but SMU is going to

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01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 5: be in the ACC title game its first year in

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01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 5: the conference. As for the Big twelve, first year in

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01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 5: that conference for Arizona State, and at home they held

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01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 5: on to beat BYU twenty eight twenty three. ASU had

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01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 5: led twenty eight to nine late in the third quarter.

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01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 5: Cam Scadogbo twenty eight carries one hundred forty seven yards

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01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 5: rushing three touchdowns. Each team six and two in conference,

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 5: but BYU has lost two straight. Kansas, playing in Kansas City,

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01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 5: beat sixteenth rank Colorado thirty seven to twenty one Travis

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 5: Hunter and the loss. Eight catches one hundred twenty five

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01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 5: yards two scores plus seven tackles on defense, but Devin

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01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 5: Neil for the Kansas Jayhawks thirty seven carries two hundred

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01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 5: seven yards rushing three touchdowns plus four catches for eighty

2255
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 5: yards at a touchdown. Kansas with twenty nine first downs.

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01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 5: It never punted against Colorado, and it had five hundred

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01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 5: twenty yards of offense. Clemson and South Carolina each one.

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01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 5: Missouri as well. Number twenty two Iowa State one at

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01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 5: Utah thirty one to twenty eight on a touchdown with

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01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 5: under two minutes to go. Yutsmissed a fifty four yard

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01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 5: field goal attempt in the final seconds. Twenty fifth ranked

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01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 5: Illinois won on a forty yard touchdown pass with four

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01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 5: seconds to go, thirty eight thirty one at Rutgers. Rutgers

2264
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 5: has lost forty eight against ranked opponents, by the way.

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01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 5: With Indiana losing at Ohio State, Hoosiers still have not

2266
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 5: beaten Ohio State since nineteen eighty eight. Next Saturday, Ohio

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01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 5: State host Michigan noon Eastern time on Fox TV. Among

2268
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 5: the NBA games, Utah upset New York, San Antonio beat

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01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 5: Golden State. Denver dominated the Lakers. Denver is thirteen and

2270
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 5: one against the Lakers over the last couple of years.

2271
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 5: Milwaukee beat Charlotte despite fifty points from LaMelo ball. There

2272
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 5: was a top ten women's hoops game today, Notre Dame

2273
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,879
Speaker 5: one at usc in the NHL Sidney Crosby of Pittsburgh

2274
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 5: with career goal number six hundred. Penguins lost six to

2275
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 5: one to Utah. Victories for Edmonton and Nashville. Update approaching

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01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 5: the two minute warning at the Rose Bowl, USC with

2277
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 5: the ball and the lead sixteen thirteen at UCLA.

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01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much to Seger. Just

2279
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: thinking about the fact that I live in Pasadena. They

2280
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 2: need to get this game all with, so I don't.

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01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 5: It's not good you're sleeping here today.

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01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Fox Sports Radio Er touris Jason Martin

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01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Will cut,

2284
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 2: come back, put a bow on the show. USC almost

2285
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: got the game.

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 3: Chicks on the show. We'll put a four touchdowns.

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01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: Four touchdown it would be bo. It would be bow,

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01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 2: not b O or B.

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 3: I just want to get my Broncos love in there.

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01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Not a bow Benson either, not a B E a U.

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01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 2: It's it's a bow. Bow. We'll come back, put a

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Speaker 2: bow on the show, and we definitely will not talk

2293
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

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01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 2: Radio Errator j Smartin broadcasting live from the tire rack

2295
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Again mentioned it a minute ago. Make

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01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 2: sure to download the podcast wherever you get podcasts will

2297
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,959
Speaker 2: be available shortly after the show. By the way, Jmart,

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01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm overreacting to this. USC well, oh, they

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01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 2: almost intercepted it. They did not, So USC had a

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01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 2: fourth and five in the red zone. They were up

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01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 2: sixteen to thirteen, and they elected to kick a field

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01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 2: goal to go up six. I think they should. I

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01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: get why you would kick a field goal. Now you

2304
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: have to score a touchdown to win it, and obviously

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01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: a field goal does nothing for you. Kind of feel

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01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 2: like you should have just gone for the touchdown and

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01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 2: sealed the game. Am I crazy? Like? I get going

2308
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 2: up six now they have to score a touchdown. They

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01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 2: a field goal does nothing, But I don't know. I

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01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 3: What do you think? The only reason that I would

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01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 3: disagree in this case and agree in others is that

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01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 3: neither one of these teams has been doing a lot offensively. Sure,

2314
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 3: it's been a lot of field goals, for example, So

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01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 3: to go up six and say, yeah, you've got to

2316
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 3: score a touchdown. If you do that, good on you.

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01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 3: I actually think it makes sense here just because UCLA

2318
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 3: and I'm proven they can do very much offensively either.

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01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 3: It's not like you're playing against some top flight all

2320
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 3: offense that has fifty points and you're in a shootout,

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01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: at which point maybe you do want to go for it.

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01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 3: In this case, I think it's like, yeah, I dare

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01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 3: you to go score a touchdown on me, so I

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01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 3: can see it more. Even though I understand your argument.

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01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the argument be I dare to go

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01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 2: score a touchdown? Everyone has Literally I don't know that's true.

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01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 3: I mean, USC's defense is not something due.

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: No, but I understand what you're saying. I just I

2329
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: don't know, all right, real quick, First of all, we

2330
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 2: didn't really talk about the Week twelve NFL slate really quick.

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01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 2: The big one is obviously Monday Night Ravens at Chargers,

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Speaker 2: the old, the old Hardball Bowl. You got any bold

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Speaker 2: takes on that. Obviously, Chargers coming off that wild Sunday

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Speaker 2: night win against the Bengals. Ravens of course last played

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's just gonna be a good, good

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Speaker 3: football game. That's a tough ass to go across the country.

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Speaker 3: In that case, if you were Baltimore and you know

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Speaker 3: ball is gonna want it and I mean Jim in

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Speaker 3: this case, I think even more so, just with everything

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Speaker 3: going into the season and all that. But it's hard

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Speaker 3: for me to see Lamar and Derek Henry losing two

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Speaker 3: in a row. I think if they had beaten Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: I would have felt better about the Chargers weirdly enough,

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Speaker 3: but I think Baltimore losing makes me think they have

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Speaker 3: the edge. I still think they're a better overall football team,

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Speaker 3: even though the Ravens defense is it's just not what

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01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 3: it once was. But I think I think in this case,

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Speaker 3: I think they'll probably be too much on the ground,

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Speaker 3: so I think they have a good chance to control

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Speaker 3: the game from a top standpoint, and I think they'll win.

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Speaker 2: By the way USC did get did get the stop

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Speaker 2: and they're taking a knee. USC is going to win.

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Speaker 3: Fight on.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they are fighting on to the Pop Tarts Bowl

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Speaker 2: where they will where they will be playing somebody of

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Speaker 2: note sort of real quick, Jmart, when I can talk

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Speaker 2: before thanks, you got any special plans for.

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Speaker 3: The holiday or.

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean we'll do the food thing, go to

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Speaker 3: her parents' house and hopefully I'll get a little bit

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Speaker 3: healthier than I am right now, and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: host Friday Morning with Brian No coming off the Thursday

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Speaker 3: night games, so I'll be watching a lot of football

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Speaker 3: that day because I'll be talking about it At six

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Speaker 3: am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: No Fantastic Guy will be with Dan Bayer on I

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Speaker 2: think Dan Byron On Thanksgiving Day. We're filling in for

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Speaker 2: Gottleib and Cavino and Rich twelve to four Pacific, three

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Speaker 2: to seven Eastern. We gotta get out of here. Want

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Speaker 2: to thanks crew, Mary Mack, producer, Ian Steve Desager from

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01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: my partner Jason Martin. I am Air Torres. Make sure

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Speaker 2: to download the podcast. Goodness did we cover a lot

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Speaker 2: of ground across the world of college football, across the

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Speaker 2: world to the NFL. So much to discuss. Thank you

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Speaker 2: all for listening. Stay tuned for Bernie Fratto, This is

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Speaker 2: Tours and Martin Fox Sports thirty