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Speaker 3: My brother is deeply in love with my wife.

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Speaker 1: Hey, bro, get your own wife.

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Speaker 3: So I thirty two male, proposed to my fiance a

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Speaker 3: year ago.

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Speaker 1: Congrats.

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Speaker 3: Our wedding was set for July seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That already passed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear a past tense in there. It was set.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, so you probably think I'm the bad guy

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Speaker 3: for not wanting my own brother at my wedding. But

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Speaker 3: hear me out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the bad guy the bad guys too.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the bad guy was our friends that we made along.

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Speaker 1: With the way. The bad guy was the friends he

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Speaker 1: made along the way.

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Speaker 3: Ever since we were kids, he'd always try to mess

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Speaker 3: up whatever happiness I had. If I got an aplus,

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Speaker 3: he'd either rip it to shrends or claim that it

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Speaker 3: was his. And your parents were like, oh, then why

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Speaker 3: is your brother's name on this?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you could have sensed that there were

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Speaker 1: weird vibes. Yeah, before the weird vibes arrived. Always confront

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Speaker 1: the weird vibes direct, bluntly, I think mostly excellent point.

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Speaker 3: My parents, who aren't idiots, obviously didn't believe his bull crap,

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Speaker 3: but you get what I mean. By the way, this

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Speaker 3: comes from Unhappy Judgment sixteen oh one. And if you

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Speaker 3: want to spent your own stories, go to the r

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Speaker 3: slash Okay story time separate it. So if I got

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Speaker 3: a girlfriend, he'd flirt with her. When I met my wife,

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Speaker 3: thirty female in college, we hit it off immediately. My

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Speaker 3: brother tried hitting on her, but she rejected him politely.

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Speaker 3: She told me every time he flirted with her over

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Speaker 3: the years, and even documented it. If I remember a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, it was around two hundred times.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you could make like a whole Banksy documentary with that.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. She's got a journal and she's like at

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday at ten oh five pm, he told me

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Speaker 3: that my shirt looked nice. Now on Wednesday he also

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Speaker 3: told me that my shirt looked nice. And it just

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Speaker 3: keeps going for two pads all just it's all about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's just a fan of shirts. This guy's misunderstood.

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Speaker 3: He is becoming more persistent day by day. He's like,

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Speaker 3: can I actually have that shirt?

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Speaker 1: Give me that shirt please.

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Speaker 3: My parents know about this, but have only told him

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Speaker 3: Your wife won't go for him anyway. Let him be crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean, like, that's that is insane to

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Speaker 3: It's like my wife is uncomfortable tell me about them on.

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Speaker 1: The principle of the thing man.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, back to our main issue, the wedding. I didn't

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Speaker 3: want him to flirt with my soon to be wife

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Speaker 3: bluntly told him I don't want you at my wedding.

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Speaker 3: He starts to ask why and can I explain why?

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Speaker 3: He starts getting mad and calls me insecure and that

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Speaker 3: he's only joking and that I need a mad up.

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Speaker 3: I am manding up and on inviting you from the wedding. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm only joking. When I'm flirting with your wife. For

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Speaker 3: the two hundred times that I've done it, it was

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Speaker 3: But a few days ago my mom called and asked

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Speaker 3: I said yeah, and she started to say what she

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm sure he would go past flirting if she wasn't,

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Speaker 3: It's like, not even the fact that it's just his

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Speaker 3: I mean if you're if you were down, unless you're

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Speaker 3: also uninvited. That leaves me to today. My whole family

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Speaker 3: that's fine with I've been getting spammed and I genuinely

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Speaker 3: want to uninvite them all, but I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 3: And someone even told me to divorce my wife and

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Speaker 3: focus on family. Huh, divorce your wife? So that was

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Speaker 3: that guy? Your brother paid that guy? Yeah, divorce your

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Speaker 3: I think you should divorce your wife.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your brother says, hmmm, you said no, you pass the test.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guess who that was my aunt. I genuinely don't

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Speaker 3: to see if my feelings are valid and what I

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Speaker 3: should do. And there is an update. But what should

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Speaker 3: hope you do?

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Speaker 1: I think, given how crazy town the situation is got

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Speaker 1: because no one can just be like, oh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: bad behavior and that should stop. You need to sit

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Speaker 1: down all the people who are doing it, like your brother,

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Speaker 1: like it's meaningless, like your parents, and say, here's what's

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Speaker 1: going on. This needs to stop.

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Speaker 3: My wife is uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not going to have you or by extension,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you shall get over it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want any of y'all at my wedding right now,

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Speaker 3: And that's it, because you don't want to have people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is about making your wedding about you and

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Speaker 1: like be like, Wow, you grade that wedding dress. That's

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Speaker 1: a really nice shirt you got on, really nice wedding shirt.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Would you like me to? I would like,

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Speaker 1: would you you you wanna? You wanna maybe kiss?

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Speaker 3: Like? But there is an update, folks, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how to update, so I'm making another post to clear

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Speaker 3: some things up. Yes, I did stand up for my wife.

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Speaker 3: I mean it feels like Opie's been standing up for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been standing on you want to invited your brother? Honestly? Wait,

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Speaker 1: I have thought now that if the brother was so

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Speaker 2: He get that average up.

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Speaker 3: Then and he's like, yo, never mind. It was the

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Speaker 3: but they did give my girlfriend weird looks after that, huh,

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, he's just a flirty guy.

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Speaker 3: He's just a flirty guy.

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Speaker 2: That's his personality.

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Speaker 3: I'm also going no contact with my mom, dad, and brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm keeping contact with my two sisters and my eldest brother.

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Speaker 3: Me and my wife are doing fine. We haven't had

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Speaker 3: any visits, but we did get a few nasty voicemails

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Speaker 3: It's nighttime where I am and my wife is sleeping

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Speaker 3: peacefully beside me. I'm planning on showing her this post

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Speaker 3: when she wakes up. Thank you all for the advice.

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Speaker 3: And there is a second update, folks.

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Speaker 1: Shay, I've pool updates. I feel like maybe this update

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Speaker 1: is going to be like, so I've reached back out

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Speaker 1: to some family. Yeah, that's just my vibe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh, you think that the family's gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think once they all get uninvited,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, we we didn't have as much

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Speaker 3: But until they do, don't invite them. There's the door.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be like, you can see the footage.

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Speaker 3: Don't call me, don't call me, call me, don't come

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Speaker 3: Update. Okay, so this is probably the last update I'm

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Speaker 3: going to make. I've read some advice on here, and

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, just sweep sweep them all off. We're getting

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Speaker 3: We're getting all the relatives out, Marie Condo your family.

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Speaker 3: I decided to mess with them a little bit, so

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Speaker 3: I went over to their house for dinner with my fiance.

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Speaker 3: She knew the plan, and we sat down to eat

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Speaker 3: and my brother starts to pester her again. I saw

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Speaker 3: a comment that said to spray him every time he

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Speaker 3: flirted with my fiance, and I did just that. Oh

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Speaker 3: he pulls up the little caspre No. I think it

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Speaker 3: would be funny if you had a little water gun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like a shock collar. Yeah, no, bois setting. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty funny because once it hit him, he

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Speaker 3: flinched so hard that he almost fell over. But the

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Speaker 3: fun was quickly gone since my parents started yelling about

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Speaker 3: how I'm at and that's only joking, and then you

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Speaker 3: hit them back with well I was only joking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was prank and then you hit them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, So they start going, I het a feally

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Speaker 1: They were, Ah, why is your family so hydrophobic? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They don't like water.

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Speaker 1: Ants don't like water.

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Speaker 3: No, because they drown.

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Speaker 3: I've screenshotted every nasty text and recorded every voicemail call

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Speaker 3: I wish I had given you the baby. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: I just want to say it right now. Opie said.

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Speaker 1: Update three.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and do you have any thoughts before we jump

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Speaker 1: waiting for them to be like, hey, yeah that was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't just funny. This is like concerning. But

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Speaker 3: Third update, and I really hope they learned some sort

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Speaker 3: So it's past. I mean we've gotten we're I don't

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Speaker 3: E've been saying my wife, the whole story. I was

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Speaker 3: Oh it's July twenty sixth. The reception is ongoing. But

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: They sent a few messages that I have yet to check.

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Speaker 3: A day before the wedding. This is the happiest day

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Speaker 1: That rhyme's all right, Chance the rapper. We go on our.

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Speaker 3: Week long honeymoon today and then you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: That's how that works.

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Speaker 3: I filed for that restraining order and it has been granted.

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Speaker 3: Hence why they didn't bother showing up. We're planning on

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about the messages they sent, so I'm blocking

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Speaker 3: Had this phone since. Thank you for all the love

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Speaker 3: there's a literal another update.

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Speaker 1: Oh piece.

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Speaker 3: They told us that he said that was the last

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is what happens. Okay, there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: There's a man after us.

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Speaker 1: He's he's after our family fortune that we found out

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Speaker 3: They go, oh, pee, we never told you, but we

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Speaker 3: National Treasure Style. Oh, I was thinking, goonies, you need

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Speaker 3: we lose the least to our house.

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Speaker 1: Four friends in one slot yeah, and Portland Organ.

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Speaker 3: And also one of your friends is like super genius

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Speaker 1: And one of our friends is also Josh Brolin.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is our time.

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Speaker 3: This is oh and also gooneying. One of your friends

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Speaker 3: is also Wise Gange. You are sad wise Gangie.

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Speaker 3: Update four. Hello, Me and my wife got back from

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Speaker 1: Now, dude. I hear you, I hear you. With that though,

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Speaker 1: but also like I doubt that because you're right back

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Speaker 3: Way, you didn't think about them a little bit, probably

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Speaker 3: everyone's sent, starting with my mom, Olpi, we think that

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Speaker 3: line or family. He wouldn't hit on your wife, stopping insecure.

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Speaker 1: He's literally done it two hundred times.

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Speaker 3: Her second message was when I uninvited her my brother, dad,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. OPI, you're being ridiculous. Uninviting on majority of

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Speaker 1: Whole point been speaking up about this.

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Speaker 1: Caring about it? It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We can still talk about this though, P. You don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I didn't have to do this until you.

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Speaker 1: You pushed me to this.

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Speaker 3: You push me then. Her last message was the day

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Speaker 3: very disappointed in you. You can't just uninvite us from

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Speaker 1: Oo. But that's where you're wrong, because you're exactly what

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Speaker 1: I did DIDOO.

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Speaker 3: Your brother wouldn't go to such lengths to hurt you,

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Speaker 3: and you know that Josh is your brother, not a monster.

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Speaker 3: I didn't raise a monster. The way you're acting is unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: A pe answer my text, so, P, you're very close

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Speaker 3: and we want to speak to you immediately. Please reply

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Speaker 3: to my message when you see this. Do not ignore us.

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Speaker 3: We just want to talk to you, Allee. We can

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Speaker 3: solve this as adults. I don't want to see my

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Speaker 3: talk to us. We can make this work. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's you. Gotta love how that went from euro

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Speaker 1: being very close to disowned, but also the fracturing of

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Speaker 3: Please talk to us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you have to fix this is your fault. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you just didn't understand that a joke

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Speaker 3: that's been going on for two years that's always made

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Speaker 1: Gotta love that it went from nah uh to okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we don't actually care. On to my dad's text, Opie,

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Speaker 3: uninviting your brother is too far. He's your brother, for

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Speaker 3: Christ's shake. He wouldn't do anything. We wouldn't let him

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Speaker 3: go beyond his jokes about your wife.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry. What is that the implication of that

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Speaker 1: y'all would just tackle him to the ground and be

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Speaker 1: like those are too far you.

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Speaker 3: Near damn know thata da. I would never allow my

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Speaker 3: that way. You know this His next message, Opie, honestly,

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Speaker 3: congratulations on the wedding. I'm not proud of what you did, Opie,

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Speaker 3: but I understand I have viewing this in your PERSPECTI

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, thick headed dad is starting to get

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Speaker 1: it crazy. That first message was like my actual father,

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Speaker 1: we went through the same thing, but I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: And now he's like, hmm, I've been thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: If I was in your situation, I wouldn't have gone

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Speaker 3: We can't change that. We just need to accept it

437
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: and move on. I want to book a family therapy

438
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 3: session for all of us, if you're willing to go.

439
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: I want us to move past this. Oh Pie, There's

440
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 3: more I want to say, but I'll message you after

441
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: your honeymoon. I'm hoping to hear from you, honestly, not bad.

442
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: Dad was cooking with that.

443
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 3: Dad was going, you know, he was going with someone

444
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: with that. Yes, now the message from my brother.

445
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh p I'm not going to sugarcoat anything

446
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: to you. This is the truth that I've been holding

447
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: for a long time. I've liked your wife since the

448
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: day you brought her home. She always looked at me

449
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: in a way way, a way that told me to keep

450
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: on trying. My jokes weren't jokes. I wanted to do

451
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: more hugger, wrap an arm around her, but I couldn't.

452
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: Dad was on to me after I hit on her

453
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: that first day. He told me not to go too far. Oh,

454
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: he'll make me regret it. I thought he was kidding

455
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: because he never intervened, nor did Mom. Your wife loved me,

456
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: and she still does. When you uninvited me from your wedding,

457
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: I was crushed. Taking a brief moment, this is man

458
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: is crazy. This man is the most insane man I've

459
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: ever seen.

460
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: And also, I'm screenshotting that text and sending it to

461
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: everyone who said he was joking. Yes, I'm posting it

462
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: on the news. I'm putting it on telephone polls that

463
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: say missing cat, but underneath it just says the brother's text.

464
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so people read it. I think given this, we

465
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: do family therapy minus the brother. Brother does his own therapy.

466
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: He needs to leave the country, he needs he needs

467
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: intense therapy at like a really specific place that you

468
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: know specializes in.

469
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: Just here's what we do. Launch him into space, low

470
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: Earth orbit. He gets hit with the cosmic radiation that

471
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: did the Fantastic four powers, and then he comes back

472
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: and he can redeem himself. Yeah, I want to give.

473
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: If he got powers, it'd be kind of a Jonah

474
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Hill and Megan literally, and then he would go to

475
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: the wife and be like, well I have powers now,

476
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: so like don't you love me? And she'll be like no,

477
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: and it'll be like I'm gonna be evil now because

478
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: I hate women.

479
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: You know what. Yeah, I shouldn't be in charge of

480
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: giving people powers. It's okay, that's a good call. It's

481
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: all right, that's a good call.

482
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: A doctor doom this guy.

483
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, back back into the back into the voice.

484
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: You are denying me my only and from my true

485
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: love because she seals the vault.

486
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: I don't know what he meant there. You're insecure lapping her.

487
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: You're trapping her in a marriage. She's agreeing to partake it.

488
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: Have you seen the way she looks me?

489
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: Her eyes are filled with love, always love. Your actions

490
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: are cruel, very cruel. How could you marry my wife?

491
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: She's been my wife ever since I met her as

492
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 3: your girlfriend. She's been my wife ever since she started

493
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: dating you.

494
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: Don't you know her?

495
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 3: Ye knew it, and mother and Mama and Papa knew

496
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: it too.

497
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: It's yeah. I cannot wait for them to see the

498
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: parents to see this.

499
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: Oh boy, you knew I liked her.

500
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: You knew. I know you knew. Even if you're married,

501
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: I'll get my true love one day.

502
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: You get her, my pretty get you my pretty little

503
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 3: dog doing me this?

504
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: Your brother is gollum, Your brother is my She's been

505
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: mine in the first I die. I haven't told Mama

506
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Dad this because I know they'll flip out. You can

507
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: tell them this, but by the time you do that,

508
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: I'll be gone.

509
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: I'll be gone, man, your wife.

510
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm the goobler. I'll be back for part two, the

511
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Goobler's revenge. I've heard you've been ignoring Mom and dad's texts.

512
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: You've just given me the opportunity, and I'm taking it.

513
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Hate me, are you want? I'm gonna get your wife

514
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: and take your place.

515
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: He's literally evil villain monologueing.

516
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna monologue. Oh my god, and like Sniper knows swiping,

517
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: he's got a he's he's like, really, I don't know

518
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: how obscure this is. He's Lovelace from the Wild Wild

519
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: West movie. That's what he's giving me. He's giving that

520
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: energy right now.

521
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: That's such a deep, deep cut right there.

522
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: That's the exact energy this guy's giving.

523
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: We're putting a lot of deep ones in this way.

524
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's deep. Okay, you're so okay. I'll even

525
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: date one of her relatives to get closer to her

526
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: if that's what it takes. I'll go that far. And

527
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: how I feel about you.

528
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: I hate you. I always have even as children.

529
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: You angered me in many ways everything you did. You're

530
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: such a show off. That's what pisses me off. Always

531
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: showing off your grades and your girlfriend's, even your accomplishments online.

532
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: But me nothing, I'm nothing special. Then that's your fault. Nothing,

533
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm nothing compared to you. That's how I feel about you.

534
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: It's not jealousy, it's hatred, which are basically emotional cousins.

535
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: My hate will come back to bite you and you

536
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: regret what you did.

537
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: That was an insane evil villain malag good job. That

538
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: was clinically crazy.

539
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: I got a cool off guy.

540
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: I don't know where was I was I what happened?

541
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Happened? What was that?

542
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm sending that text to everyone.

543
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: I know, Green Goblin right there, Yeah, that was.

544
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: How many people are gonna get that. It's gonna be

545
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: The thing is, oh my god, you did green. That's it.

546
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: That's it.

547
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: This is Green Goblin trying to figure out who it was.

548
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: That's yes, you're the green Gold Doc Gobbler, You're the

549
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Green Gobbler from the go do. I'm sending this text

550
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: to everyone, and I'm putting the subject line as like

551
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: send this to ten people, you know, or be cursed forever.

552
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: We're doing like those type of text chains.

553
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know, Yeah, this guy got cursed.

554
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna know about this text.

555
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Send this text to twelve people, or be forever cursed

556
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: by the Goon Doc Gobbler, Goblin Man Goblin, the Green

557
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Goon Doc goblet goblin.

558
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 3: Oh man, See, this is the type of story, Like,

559
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: after I heard this, this is the type of person

560
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: that I would think took six manager. Well, I think

561
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: I think he's having some sort of breaking.

562
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

563
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: If he hasn't, maybe he needs to try taking six

564
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: bene can completely. It'll cancel each other out. Yeah, just

565
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: come back to normal. That's all he sent, folks. That's

566
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: all he sent that the day after my wedding. Of

567
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: course he did, because he's he's been his plot, his

568
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: two year long plot has been foiled.

569
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

570
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, there's a little bit left to this insane story.

571
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: But do you have any final thoughts?

572
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: Literally, my final thought is send that text to everyone everyone, well,

573
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: everyone relevant, because it's like, clearly your brother has problems

574
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: and people need to know. I mean the relevant parties

575
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: need to know at least.

576
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like your parents need to know that he needs help.

577
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: If he's currently dating anyone, definitely let them politely know

578
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: they need to not be dating this guy.

579
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: He's currently dating anyone, I don't think he's ever dated anyone.

580
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's probably the vibe. That's probably the.

581
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: Vibe he's telling ope that he's going to date his

582
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: opie's wife's relatives. I don't think he'd get he could

583
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: get a date with any of that.

584
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, buddy, go ahead, good luck.

585
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: My guys, I gonna have a lot of restraining orders

586
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: against you.

587
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: You go out, you go to like the next like

588
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: family get together, and it's like he's dating her mom.

589
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like she Batman, I told you it happened.

590
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: I told you, Batman.

591
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: And then it's like, actually, if he's the guon Doc

592
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 3: Goblin he guys see Spider.

593
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: Man, No, he's he would be the he. So the

594
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: layer is he's pretending to be his normal self, but

595
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: he's like the Guon Doc Gobblers underneath it. So it's

596
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: like he's all like loving and caring and then he

597
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: just like turns and he's like a lovely sundress on you, babe.

598
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

599
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea where he is, and I haven't

600
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: spoken to my family. I think they know I'm back,

601
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: perhaps waiting for my message, but I'm conflicted. I want

602
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: to answer my dad. He seems sorry for not intervening,

603
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: and I want to give him sponds to all of

604
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: them actually to tell them about my brother's message. I'm

605
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: concerned about my brother's mental health. Me too, Dude, he's

606
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: turning into a villain on a level, on a real level.

607
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: This man is literally having a villain moment.

608
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on a real level, like real advice, not

609
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: funny haha, time, like, don't send that to everybody, Send

610
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: it to your parents speaking, and then you let them know.

611
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, so remember how you said this was no

612
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: big deal. The Broski's having a legit breakdown.

613
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: Literally, Okay, this was always kind of weird, and I

614
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: feel like y'all are kind of partially responsible now for

615
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: having propped up this behavior your whole life.

616
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm not scared of him. He can't do anything physical

617
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: to me. I'm bigger than him if he tries anything.

618
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm unsure of what to do. We found a house

619
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: while on our honeymoon. It's closer to my in laws.

620
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: We signed the lease earlier today and we're starting to

621
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: move tomorrow. I feel like it's safer to move houses

622
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: than reply to them. I'm unsure on how to speak

623
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: to my wife about this. She doesn't know what the

624
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 3: messages say because she went out to run Errand's and

625
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: came back exhausted and went to bed. I checked. Well

626
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: she was gone and I didn't tell her. I'm coming

627
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: here for advice on what to do, and folks, that's

628
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: the end of that story. But dude, just send this

629
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: to your parents. You don't even have to say anything.

630
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: Just send that text screenshots and leave it at that.

631
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think your dad's clearly trying to build a

632
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: breathe Yeah. I think out of both of those responses,

633
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: clearly your mom was more like and your brother was like, man,

634
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: but your dad was like, I mean, we could maybe

635
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: fix this. I see where you're coming from.

636
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so talk to her. Maybe you can just send

637
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: that to your dad and then he can kind of

638
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: handle things.

639
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a get like a ring camera to or

640
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: like something.

641
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Change your just ca Yeah, you definitely want to keep

642
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: up lock the back door. It's pretty concerning behavior to

643
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: send that. But and yeah, Mingming says, send the brothers

644
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: text and mom, Yeah, send him to send it to

645
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: the parents. I'm just saying, don't blast it, don't send it, like,

646
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: don't post on Facebook, don't put it out there.

647
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: And you posted it on Reddit.

648
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Making this a public shaming thing is just gonna make

649
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: his situation worse. Yeah, and he's.

650
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: Gonna be a little bit summer frank if he does

651
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: get put on blast.

652
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't want that. Yeah.

653
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, talk to your wife about it and just say, hey,

654
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: I like all these insane texts I'm thinking about, you know,

655
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: sending them what they said or what he said.

656
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Just just send, send the text and just be like, thoughts.

657
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: Thoughts, thoughts, any, any thoughts.

658
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Mom's gonna be like, I can't believe you would make

659
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: up fake text that your.

660
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Brother's doctor these texts. And then and then the brother's like, no,

661
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: I've thought this the whole time. I'mon. I know you're

662
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: on my side because you never said anything.

663
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Speaker 1: She goes, stop being crazy with your jokes. So, oh,

664
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Speaker 1: you joker. Sam here og host. We're gonna get back

665
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Speaker 3: First, I resent my sister over the birthday gifts she received.

667
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: Hers are always better than mine.

668
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I am five years older than my sister.

669
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: I am five years old. I am a five year old,

670
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: and I was given this reddited account by my sister.

671
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: Goo Goo got I'm part of the goonies, the Goo.

672
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Goonies, even though our mom has always compared us and

673
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: tried to pit us against each other. We've always been close.

674
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I've spent most of my life protecting her from our

675
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: parents and the mess at home. She's never really done

676
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: the same for me, but I didn't mind. I figured

677
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: that's what being the big sister is. I loved her

678
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: for me, not because I expected anything back. And by

679
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: the way, this comes from user own one seven nine

680
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Speaker 1: seven eight. And if you want to submit your own stories,

681
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: why don't you go on down to the ar slage

682
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: okay story time subreddit and submit them. There A thought,

683
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: just a thought. So when I was in my final

684
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: year of high school, things at home were horrible. My

685
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: parents would fight constantly most nights, screaming and drinking until

686
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: five in the morning. Yikes, that's not very conducive to

687
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: a healthy environment. No, I was the one getting my

688
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: sisters out of the house, calling the cops, trying to

689
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: keep everyone safe. Safe to say, my parents weren't really

690
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: preoccupied with raising their kids and doing normal parent things

691
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: like teaching me how to drive and helping me get

692
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: my license. I was barely functioning. The moment I graduated

693
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: and turned eighteen, I left for Union across the state

694
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: just to survive. This was in twenty twenty two, when

695
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: inflation had started really ramping up and everything was expensive

696
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: and work was hard to find. I went nights without eating.

697
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I fully supported myself, aside from the odd time my

698
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: parents helped with rent when I was on the verge

699
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: of getting evicted. Eventually I had to drop out. I

700
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: moved back home and started working minimum wage just to

701
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: get by. My parents eventually divorced. That's a whole other

702
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: story in itself, but basically they both owe me a

703
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: lot more money than the odd few times they helped

704
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: with rent. I don't drive, I don't have a car.

705
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: I can't afford one right now. I've asked my parents

706
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: again and again just to help me practice or help

707
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: me buy literally any car. I've told them I'll pay

708
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: it off weekly. I don't care how old or beat up.

709
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: It is just something to help get me around. They

710
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: never help. Yeah, I gotta say, based on everything that's

711
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: going on, I don't think we can rely on our parents'

712
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: support system, no matter how bad we want.

713
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: No too, And also I don't like On one hand,

714
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: I absolutely understand that you would, you know, it'd be

715
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: very helpful if they could support you. But also I

716
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: think these are the type of parents that would hold

717
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: anything they gave you over your head forever.

718
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this would be a debt that you have

719
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: to repay, not a gift out of their you know, kindness,

720
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: of their heart, their virtue. Yeah, no way. So meanwhile,

721
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: my sister just turns seventeen, which is when you can

722
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: start driving here. She's never had a real job aside

723
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: from a couple of summer shifts. A few years ago.

724
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: She said she wants a quote unquote nice car and

725
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be embarrassed driving something old. Well, you

726
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: should look at the nineteen ninety seven Toyota Re four

727
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: because nothing is embarrassing by that car. It's a work

728
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: of art.

729
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

730
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 3: I don't quite understand that, Get over it. I don't.

731
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: I truly don't think we should be given sixteen year

732
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: olds new cars.

733
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be old.

734
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: I think they should be old. I should be should

735
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: be giving your child. And I think that if you're

736
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: going to get a new car, the parents should get

737
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: a new car and then give kid old car. Literally,

738
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: don't give sixteen year old new car. They crash it.

739
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: Japanese car, they do something.

740
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: They're new drivers. Don't give them a nice car. Oh no,

741
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: in old Japanese sit in yeah easy easy.

742
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: Our mom has made it a priority to help my

743
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: sister get driving. I've kept my mouth shut about it,

744
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: even though it hurt a lot. A few days ago,

745
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with my sisters when my

746
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: mom joined in and offered to drive me to the

747
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: next town for an appointment I had made with my

748
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: accountant and to pick up my new glasses. Then she

749
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: casually mentions, will be stopping at a dealership because she's

750
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: buying my sister a brand new car for her birthday.

751
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 3: I think so okay. Op said earlier that her mom

752
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: pits her in a sister against each other, So I

753
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 3: feel like this is just more of that.

754
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

755
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: I feel like she's like.

756
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: Oh, he will be very upset when I get her

757
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: sister a car.

758
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: I shall break the bond even family.

759
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Why and why would one want this?

760
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: They can't rise against me if they're not united.

761
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: You got the divorce. That's for the best. Clearly. Why

762
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: why torment your daughters? I don't know where does that

763
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: come from.

764
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: I think that she's just a really bad person.

765
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: She's a tormentor.

766
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: She's a tormenta tormenta tomenta.

767
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to react. I just started

768
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: crying and told her I'd find another way to get

769
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: there and hung up. Later that day, my dad sat

770
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: me down and told me my mom bought my sister

771
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: an eighteen thousand dollar car. He said it's best I

772
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: heard it from him. She doesn't even have her license yet. Crazy.

773
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: I've offered to pay a car off in installments. I

774
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: actually need one to work and to ship things from

775
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: my side hustle and to make appointments. My sister doesn't

776
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: need one.

777
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: It's just in accessory to her and her private school friends.

778
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: She doesn't take school seriously like I did.

779
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense. But she gets a free,

780
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: brand new car, and I get ignored unless my mom

781
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: needs me to babysit my youngest sister free of charge.

782
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: My mom's excuse was, well, you wanted to go to UNI.

783
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: She doesn't, so she gets a car.

784
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 3: I think we gotta go low contact with those parents.

785
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: For a reference, my mom helped me with maybe six

786
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: hundred to one thousand dollars when I was studying, and

787
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: she still complains about it. But suddenly it's totally fine

788
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: to drop eighteen thousand dollars on a kid who's never

789
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: worked and doesn't even have a driver's license yet. My

790
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: sister didn't tell me about the car. I'm assuming she

791
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to hurt me, But today is her birthday,

792
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: and I just feel so angry and numb. I bought

793
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: her a really nice perfume, which hurt my bank account,

794
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: but I wanted to make her feel special. Now I

795
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: don't even want to give it to her. I will,

796
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: but I don't want to talk to her. I don't

797
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: want to see her. I feel like crap. I know

798
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: it's not technically her fault. Yes, this is your mom's fault.

799
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: And she's winning.

800
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: And she's trying to pit you guys against each other.

801
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: That's a thing. She's trying to make you hate your sister.

802
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it's working.

803
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: She's doing it.

804
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: It's working. This is just like in Sira when Shadow

805
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: Weaver pits Dora and Catra. I guess you can say

806
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: that again, except they're not sisters. They're in love with

807
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: each other.

808
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: She what she rah?

809
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: She didn't ask for this, But she's not stupid either.

810
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: She knows I've been asking for help for years, and

811
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: she's staying quiet while benefiting from the same people who've

812
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: constantly ignored and hurt me. It makes me feel like

813
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: she's fine standing by while I suffer. It is a

814
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: real gut punch because I've always been loyal to her

815
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: and defended her to my parents when things were the

816
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: other way around. I've had huge problems in fights with

817
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: my parents just because I have defended her in the past.

818
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: I think that's probably it then, or it's like a

819
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: little bit of like you are the only one who's

820
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: kind of stood up to your parents, and I think

821
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: maybe this is a little bit of them trying to

822
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 3: punish you, and they're trying to be not so obvious

823
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: about it.

824
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: It's just mom though, because Dad Dad called you like,

825
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: I feel like you near this from me.

826
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's still complicit in a new car?

827
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Is it a hot take to be Like, if you

828
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: just in a situation where your relationship is beyond repair

829
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: and you're like staying up until five drinking and screaming

830
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: at each other while the two children are in the house,

831
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: maybe just get the divorce. At this point, the divorce

832
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: is going to damage the children less than you're staying

833
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: together and doing that. No when to call it. Got

834
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: to know when to hold them and know when to

835
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: fold them.

836
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'm always saying.

837
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: She wrote that song.

838
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: I actually wrote that song.

839
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: My boyfriend says she's just a bystander in all this,

840
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: and maybe he's right. I mean, she is seventeen, she's young, Like,

841
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't know.

842
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: I think she is a bystander. She's not gonna not

843
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: accept a free car.

844
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you can get in there and run interference and

845
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: be like, are you sure you don't want to go

846
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: to what is your plan move for?

847
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: Like, let's game university.

848
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: But I can't fake it. I think I'm going to

849
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: give her the gift and then leave. I need space.

850
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: I can't just sit there and smile while everyone celebrates

851
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: her getting something I've been begging for for years. So yeah,

852
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: am I the a hole for even my sister the

853
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: silent treatment on her birthday?

854
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of a little bit, But I understand where

855
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: it's coming from.

856
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: You've been manipulated into this position.

857
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like it's not your sister's fault, and it

858
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: really sucks because your mom's kind of trying to just

859
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: end successfully destroying your relationship with your sister. Yeah, she's

860
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: an evil villain. But I do think that you need

861
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: to limit contact with your mom and maybe both of

862
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: your parents because your relationship with your sister. If you

863
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: let it get to that point, you might not be

864
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: able to fix it.

865
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah if you Just like.

866
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Chilbol says, Opie doesn't have to go to the party,

867
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: she needs to protect herself. I agree she doesn't have to,

868
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: but I do think that she's explicitly said I ignored her,

869
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: and I think that is pretty harsh for the sister

870
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: to be like, I didn't do anything, and I'm you know,

871
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: receiving the backlash for this.

872
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, folks, we have an update and we are only

873
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: about a third of the way through this story right now. Yeah,

874
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: not even dang man. I'm having my fingers crossed for

875
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: they become the power duo.

876
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

877
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: I just want your sister and you to you know,

878
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: you read like unite and against your parents.

879
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are interested in how

880
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: everything went down last night, and I'll say this, I

881
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: think I definitely dealt with this situation as well as

882
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I possibly could. I also want to clear some things up.

883
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm seeing an accountant because it's the end of the

884
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: financial year in Australia and we have to get our

885
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: taxes done, you know, because that's the law. I speak

886
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: with British English and refer to states in my country

887
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: because I'm Australian, not because this is fake. I understand

888
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: why my question the title might have framed the situation wrong. However,

889
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: I want to clear up that I did not speak

890
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: to my sister yet when this was posted, as I

891
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: had posted it in the morning right before going to work,

892
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: because I was having conflicting feelings on how to deal

893
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: with it. She hadn't been given any silent treatment yet.

894
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I was just trying to figure out if that's the

895
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: road I wanted to go down. On one hand, I

896
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: was really hurt and angry. But on the other hand,

897
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I love my sisters more than anything, and while we

898
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: do argue, it's always over small things. This time it

899
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: feels too real and too hurtful. While I was at work,

900
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I had some time to think it over. All of

901
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: the people that told me I needed to understand that

902
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: my mom wanted a reaction out of me. She wanted

903
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: me to go nuclear on my sister, and she wanted

904
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: me to be the bad guy here. The people that

905
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: commented that, thank you so much. I realized a trend

906
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: in my life that I had never noticed. I've always

907
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: been an outspoken person. If I feel I'm being disrespected,

908
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: I defend myself. I'll shout, I'll call people names, and

909
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I'll make sure I'm heard. I've always been this way.

910
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a blessing and a curse. I like

911
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: that I have this trait because it means I can

912
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: assert myself when I'm being disrespected. But it also allows

913
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: room for people like my mother to point out my

914
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: behavior and say, hey, look at how you're acting. You're

915
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: a terrible sister and a terrible person. Here's my advice

916
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: for you. Gotta be cool, calm and collected. You gotta

917
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: be hyper nonchalant.

918
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 3: I think you just gotta go low contact with your.

919
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Mom well yeah, sure, yeah, sure, just being in general,

920
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a confrontational person, don't do it

921
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: by being like shouting and calling people names. Be like, hey,

922
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: that thing you just did, maybe let's stop doing that.

923
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: I do think that OP needs to like understand that

924
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: if this is your way of confronting people or approaching arguments,

925
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean you did. This is somewhat learned behavior. You know,

926
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: you spent your whole life listening to your parents argue

927
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: and shout and stuff in front of you, So just be.

928
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: Very aware, you know, furious stute observation.

929
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: You have your arguments.

930
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I have now learned this is a reactionary abuse.

931
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, you learned it.

932
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Wow, that was quick, which is a term my mom

933
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: loves to accuse me and my sisters of, along with

934
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: triangulation and gaslighting, et cetera. I feel like I've matured

935
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: years in this past day. I will no longer react.

936
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I will no longer feel like yelling for my voice

937
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: to be heard. I will let the actions speak for themselves.

938
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't need to do anything but laugh it off

939
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: and distance myself. Correct.

940
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: Yes, we both won.

941
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: I have been treated this way because I allow myself

942
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: to be treated this way. At the end of the day,

943
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: I need to take accountability for the disrespect I allow

944
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: myself to go through on a daily basis. I wound

945
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: up down by the beach after my shift yesterday. I

946
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: was still too emotional to see my sister, Yet a

947
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: kind lady paid for my drink when my cod was declined.

948
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I have money, I just didn't transfer it properly, and

949
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: it made my day. She might have thought it was

950
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: just an extra three bucks, but that kindness was what

951
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I needed in that moment. My dad called after a

952
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: few hours and asked where I was. I explained to

953
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: him I won't be reacting how my mother expects. He

954
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: agreed that that is exactly what she's trying to do.

955
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I also told him that I wasn't really up for celebrating,

956
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: but that I'll go to dinner because I don't want

957
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: to give my mom what she wants. He told me

958
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: that it isn't my sister's fault and that it is

959
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: all on my mother. I told my dad that while

960
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: that is true, my sister isn't completely innocent, and I

961
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: need her to know she cannot treat me like that.

962
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: I came home, greeted my sister a happy birthday, cried

963
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: in my room like a miserable sod, and then pulled

964
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: myself together for dinner. I gave her the perfume and

965
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: she was really grateful and said it was the best

966
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: gift she's been given.

967
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Hat jokes on you, Mom, You thought that you could

968
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: win the gift contest, but you didn't look it's just

969
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: scume beats car.

970
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: You feel your sister's a little complicit, But she's seventeen.

971
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: She's seventeen and she was given a free car.

972
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't have autonomy really, you know fully, she's almost there,

973
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, growing up in a chaotic,

974
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: unstable household like that can really kind of stunt your

975
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: personal development, personal growth and stuff.

976
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you just now realized that you were approaching

977
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: arguments in a really unhealthy way. She's seventeen. Yeah, I

978
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: think that it's important for you to have a conversation

979
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: with her because I think that you're not gonna stray

980
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: in your bonds or fixed the relationship that you guys

981
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: have without it. But I think it also just give

982
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: her a little bit of grace. This is a seventeen

983
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: year old who's grown up with the same parents that

984
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: you've grown up with, Yes, except these parents have favored her,

985
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: And that's a really weird dynamic where you blame her

986
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: for being favored and she and she feels the the

987
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: brunt of the pressure of being favored by narcissistic people. Yeah,

988
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: and it's like a weird Oh my god, this is

989
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: so Shira it's weird, man, this is so, she.

990
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: Is so, this is yeah, you got. I would say,

991
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: best case scenario, you work through this so that you

992
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: can be a mentor to your sister instead of it

993
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: being like a conflict thing. I didn't feel the enjoyment

994
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: I usually do when I give gifts to her. I

995
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: just really felt uncomfortable. In my family, I have usually

996
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: been the person at the dinner party that gets conversations

997
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: going and keeps the energy up, usually out of some

998
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: anxious need to control the situation. A consequence of playing

999
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: this role is that I can never sink into the

1000
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: background when I'm not feeling it. But when I do

1001
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: it, it leaves a thick silence behind it. So it was

1002
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: very obvious that I was sad, but I still spoke

1003
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: to her and kept it cordial and nice. I cracked

1004
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: a few jokes here and there to light the mood.

1005
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: I felt bad, though, because we're really close, and I

1006
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: know she noticed me pulling away and avoiding her eye contact.

1007
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: When we got home, she slept on the couch. I

1008
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: offered for her to sleep in my bed, but she

1009
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: ignored me. I obviously don't want her to sleep with

1010
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: me because I'm still upset, but I also don't want

1011
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: her to hurt her back on that sofa. She's seventeen.

1012
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: She'll be fine, She'll be okay. Her back seventeen year

1013
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: olds is sturdy.

1014
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Oh what I wouldn't do to have my seventeen year

1015
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: old back again. They've all just left now, and I

1016
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: won't see my sisters for another week. I feel weird.

1017
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: I miss my sister. I feel horrible that I need

1018
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: to pull away and that all of this has happened.

1019
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to write her a text message

1020
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: explaining my perspective. I'll make it clear that I love her,

1021
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: but everything that has happened has really hurt me.

1022
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: Don't make it a text, make a letter, he caste

1023
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: it down, or just call her, have a conversation, well,

1024
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: in person verbal.

1025
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: If you have any ideas for what else I should

1026
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: tell her, let me know. Thank you so much for

1027
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: everyone's attention and care to my situation. I feel as

1028
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: if I've matured ten years in just twenty four hours.

1029
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: And there's a second update. Oh boy, there's a second update.

1030
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: I mean, so you're just talking to her, right, You're

1031
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: just saying you're just going in there.

1032
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: And I also think it's important. Okay, I know that

1033
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: it'll he feels like she's matured, you know, ten years.

1034
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: I do want to be like you, haven't you know?

1035
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: And of course you did that. Why am I not surprised?

1036
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Update too, Hey it's Sam. We're going to get back

1037
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: to these stories. But here's three minutes of ads from

1038
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: our sponsors.

1039
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Update number two. My sister just messaged me. Here's what

1040
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: she said. I don't understand how it's fair for you

1041
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: to act like that on my birthday. I was excited

1042
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: to see you. It meant a lot for me to

1043
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: ceo and enjoy my birthday with my best friend. But

1044
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: thank you for the I love it so much. I

1045
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: wish it could have been way funner. It's not a word. Also,

1046
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: Mom's not in my ear. I haven't seen her yet.

1047
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: This was her response to me. It hurts because I

1048
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: tried so hard to show up for her and push

1049
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: away my feelings for her, and she is mad at me.

1050
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't even think she's really that mad.

1051
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: You think she was that mad? Honestly, I feel like

1052
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: my voice made her sound worse than she.

1053
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Was in that text. Yeah, she's just like she.

1054
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: Was pretty chill. She was like, hey, like made me

1055
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: feel bad that you weren't there. Yeah, but thanks for

1056
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: the present. I really appreciate it.

1057
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: None of that read as mad.

1058
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: She was just like, I don't understand why you treated

1059
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: me that way because I was excited, and I don't

1060
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: really I don't have anything wrong with you. I just

1061
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: want you to like, Oh, pie, you are expressing your

1062
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: feelings because you feel a certain way. So is she.

1063
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: You've tied up your relationship with your mom with your

1064
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: relationship with your sister. It's not your fault, it's your

1065
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: mom's fault. Yes, but that is not the nature of

1066
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: your relationship with your.

1067
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: Sister, agreed, at least from her perspective. So yeah, she's

1068
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: just like, I don't understand what's going on.

1069
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: This was my response. It's warning it's very long. Oh boy.

1070
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm really hurt and I need time to

1071
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: get past this. I'm sorry your birthday wasn't what you

1072
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: would have hoped, and personally I was really sad about

1073
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: how it all went too. However, it went as well

1074
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: as what it could have considering the circumstances. I've been

1075
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: crying and feeling horrible for days, and instead of lashing

1076
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: out at you or acting destructively. I did what I

1077
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: could to be nice to you but also keep my distance.

1078
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: It's not that you got the car. That's fine. I'm

1079
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: glad you have the car, but you have to understand

1080
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: how unfair it is to me and that this was

1081
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: only done to create drama. Mom could have gotten us

1082
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: both cars for the down payment of your car. I

1083
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: have a job and adult reasons for needing a car,

1084
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: So before I continue, this is like a You're like,

1085
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: it's not about the car. It's about the car exactly

1086
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: literally about the car. It's like, it's not that you

1087
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: got the car, it's that you should have said that

1088
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: you shouldn't want that. I don't want this car because ope,

1089
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: my sister needs a car too, But I can't expect

1090
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: that your sister car.

1091
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: Why don't you just talk to your sister and say, like, hey,

1092
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: let's share your car?

1093
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1094
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: How far away do you guys live? Like, is there

1095
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: any possibility for that?

1096
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: Even if you did defend me and say, hey, Mom,

1097
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: why don't we both get cars? This feels wrong, she

1098
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: still probably would have went ahead and bought you the

1099
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: same car, but I would at least feel better that

1100
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: you had my back and were loyal to me in

1101
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: the same way that I've been to you. But you

1102
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: haven't expressed any of this to your sister at all

1103
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: until this moment and.

1104
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: Through text, and you just sent her a long text

1105
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: message being like, I'm not mad about the car, but

1106
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm mad about the.

1107
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Car because you should have known that you don't need

1108
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: that car and that.

1109
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: Mingming asks, is this an everyone sucks your situation? I

1110
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: honestly don't even think the sister sucks.

1111
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: No, this is just the mom. The mom sucks sucks,

1112
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: and op.

1113
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: Is a little bit kind of yea, not understanding the

1114
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: situation because again, she grew up this terrible household with

1115
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: these narcissistic parents.

1116
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel as if I have put myself

1117
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: on the line for our relationship, for our entire life,

1118
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: in time and time again. I feel as though You're

1119
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: loyal to me has never changed, and it really hurt

1120
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: me and makes me feel so lonely and unloved. I

1121
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: feel as though I love you more than you'll ever

1122
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: love me, and I also feel stupid. You know that

1123
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: I would never do that to you.

1124
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: If the situation was reversed, I would never do that,

1125
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: But I don't actually believe you. Yes, I actually don't

1126
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: believe that if OP had gotten the car and her

1127
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: sister hadn't, I think that OPI would have made the

1128
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: same argument that she's making for why she should have

1129
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: a car and said, well, I have a job. You

1130
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: don't have a job, you don't.

1131
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Need a car. Exactly.

1132
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: I think that you would have absolutely made the same argument.

1133
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: I see some people being like, the sister sucks because

1134
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: she doesn't know she's seventeen and grew up in an

1135
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: abusive household. Yeah, she has learned that the last thing

1136
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: you ever do is rock the boat.

1137
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: Tom It says, not just mom sucks and OP is

1138
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: about her, but she never learned to handle her emotions

1139
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: because in ourk parents exactly. Yeah, I don't think if

1140
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: she can't put but I think that she just doesn't understand.

1141
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's putting this on her sister when really it's

1142
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: entirely on the mother, Which is why.

1143
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: I was saying, like when she said, oh, I feel

1144
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: like I've matured ten years, I don't see that maturity yet.

1145
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 3: I just think that you've starting to realize that your

1146
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 3: mind really sucks and is pitting you guys against each other.

1147
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: But you don't actually understand that you're playing a role

1148
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: in this as well.

1149
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Ten years of maturity, it's ten years worth of realizations

1150
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: happening all at once exactly, which is not maturity. That's

1151
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: like an atom bomb going off in your brain.

1152
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you haven't. You haven't actually you know, sat

1153
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: with it and dealt with that realization.

1154
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: Yet oh, he continues, you also kept it a secret

1155
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: from me, which hurt. You knew it had to have

1156
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: been wrong and unfair for you to know to keep

1157
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: it a secret. Did she like, I don't know again,

1158
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: abusive household.

1159
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was a birthday present.

1160
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Don't rock the boat. I don't know, well number one,

1161
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: don't speak up, don't rock the boat.

1162
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1163
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: Were you keeping it from me to spare my feelings

1164
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: or just because you didn't want drama from my end?

1165
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: Well, she got drama, so she was right. I feel

1166
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: really heartbroken, to be honest, and I'm not even mad

1167
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: at you at all. You are that whole text message.

1168
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Was you being mad at your I think it's not

1169
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: even It's more like I'm disappointed and I feel like

1170
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm not seen, and like I.

1171
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: Think it's misplaced anger because she's jealous because her mother

1172
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: is being awful.

1173
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, she can't. Yeah, and I understand it.

1174
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: I understand, Like I want to be really clear, I

1175
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: don't think that this is like Opia is not to blame,

1176
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: but I just don't think Opia understands.

1177
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: But I love you, and it makes me sick even

1178
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: thinking about this situation. I'm a nauseated thinking about any

1179
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: of it. I don't want to give Mom what she

1180
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: wants by destroying our relationship every time she wants to.

1181
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: I love you, and I don't blame you for what

1182
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: Mom does to me. But while that is true, you

1183
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: weren't completely innocent in this either, and I just need

1184
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: time to think it over and to have space. You're

1185
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: only seventeen, and I understand that maturity is going to

1186
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: be an issue in situations like this, but I also

1187
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: need to have some self respect. I won't deal with

1188
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: this type of pain any longer. And the more you

1189
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: have Mom in your ear, the more dangerous you are

1190
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: to me. I think I need to meet you at

1191
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: your own level when it comes to loyalty and respect

1192
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: until you come around to realize how seriously this has

1193
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: hurt me. So I don't want to fight. I'm not angry,

1194
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: and I also don't want you to feel like I

1195
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: blame you, but the way that it went down hurt me.

1196
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: You would have known that and weighed out the odds

1197
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: and still decided that it would be a consequence that

1198
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: you're willing to deal with. So don't be mad at

1199
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: me for preserving my emotions. I also feel like that

1200
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: the reason Opie's doing this because, like they said, their

1201
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: whole life, they've been the person maintaining the vibe. I

1202
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: don't think you're just parentified to your sister does not

1203
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: have this awareness that you you have. I think a

1204
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: level of kicking it apart.

1205
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: I think Ope said multiple times she's like, like, she's

1206
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: my sister's being disloyal. I was there for her. I

1207
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: protected her. But that's the thing, you protected her from

1208
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: this stuff and she doesn't probably realize the extent of

1209
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: it because you protected her from it. Yeah, And I

1210
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: think you like that is you have to remember that,

1211
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: and it sucks because you have absolutely been parentified. You

1212
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: have been made to be an adult in a situation

1213
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: where you shouldn't have had to be. But like you're saying,

1214
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: doesn't know any of this true, Like, have that conversation

1215
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: don't go into it with blaming. Don't go into it

1216
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: with I'm annoyed, I'm angry, blah blah blah, you were disloyal.

1217
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: It's it's the double edged sword, full metal alchemist style.

1218
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 4: It's literally like it's your fault, sister, it's your fault,

1219
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: Like really is it's your mom's that's it, And like

1220
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: I get it, like Sophia said, but all I'm getting

1221
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 4: from this message.

1222
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: Is me me, me, me, me me me.

1223
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: I Like you were so close, especially with the comments,

1224
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 4: you were so close.

1225
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: And also I really don't know what OP was wanted.

1226
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, was this gonna get now?

1227
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 3: I don't know what else you want.

1228
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: Ope wants to be told you're right and I was wrong,

1229
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: and I do see you and like I'm sorry that

1230
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: you feel bad, and I see how bad you feel

1231
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: even the way was She.

1232
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: Was like, well, if you had just told mom that

1233
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 3: I should have gotten a car and you thought this

1234
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: was wrong and you still got the car, I would.

1235
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: Have been fine.

1236
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: So it's like, what I don't actually understand quite what

1237
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 3: you want.

1238
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: I guarantee you.

1239
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just but there's more swirling, twirling emotions, a

1240
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: lot emotions going on. I gave you your gift, sung happy birthday,

1241
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: and even went out to dinner when moments beforehand, I

1242
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: was crying for days and having so much anxiety about

1243
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: the thought of facing you because my self esteem had

1244
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: taken a huge hit. Not only do I feel like

1245
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: my mom doesn't love me, but I also feel like

1246
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: my sister doesn't care to benefit. I'm not sorry for

1247
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: the way that I acted last night, because despite how

1248
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I was feeling, I pushed it aside and made sure

1249
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: to keep my feelings to myself. I love you and

1250
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: we will be okay again eventually, but I need space.

1251
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: That's really all you should have said. Yeah, was that

1252
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: right there? I love you and we'll be fine eventually,

1253
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: but I just need space.

1254
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: Right now that whole long time. I hate long text

1255
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: messages like this.

1256
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: This is truly I hate to say this. This is

1257
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: a I'm not reading all that type sting.

1258
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, your sister was like, I have a conversation.

1259
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get why you had a beef

1260
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: with me, Like I wish we could have more fun,

1261
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: but like, thank you so much for your gift. I'm

1262
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: glad you were there.

1263
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: Reread that with a normal voice, because I don't think

1264
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: I did her justice.

1265
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did her a little dirty.

1266
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: I did her dirty. And then I was like, honestly,

1267
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: that was such a.

1268
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: Normal text, redeem yourself.

1269
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh good, this is more from her.

1270
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I need to start taking myself more seriously because these

1272
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: things continue to happen because I allow it. But what's

1273
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: not cool is how messed up this sibling dynamic is.

1274
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 3: I've talked about everything I think I can talk about

1275
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: about it.

1276
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: I think let's just let's just finish her off.

1277
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: Update number three is the sister's response, Okay, here we.

1278
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: Go, Sophia, you're gonna redeem yourself.

1279
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: You're wrong, and it breaks my heart that you see

1280
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: me like that and the situation like that. But I

1281
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: really just need you to see you're so wrong. I

1282
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: never kept as a secret. I didn't even know fully

1283
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: why I was getting it. I didn't tell literally anyone,

1284
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: because I had no motivation to look or buy a car.

1285
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: You're self absorbed to think everything mom does has something

1286
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: to do with you. I got a car simply because

1287
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: I had my license, and I called and messaged driving

1288
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: instructors and tried so hard.

1289
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: It's news to me that she got her license. She

1290
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: must have gotten it today. From what I remember. A

1291
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, I was sad that mom was paying

1292
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: for drivers lessons with her while my mom had never

1293
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: helped me in that way. She told me, Mom does it.

1294
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even organize it. But now she's saying she

1295
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: organized it. She lies too much. What you are okay,

1296
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: you are very very This is just a problem with

1297
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: your mom. It's therapy time.

1298
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: I do think, I mean like, I think the sister

1299
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: is obviously like not quite clued in to the mother's motivations.

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Speaker 3: I do think the mother is doing this, and maybe

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00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: not like directly despite Ope, but I it's definitely not

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: to help op.

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: There's some confusing psychology going on that's making her.

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Speaker 3: I think that the both of you are against each other,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: and I think both of you are being defensive because

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: you don't want to be the one in the wrong.

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00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: But the thing is neither of you are in the wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's your mother. What if it's like a she looks

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: like the ex husband or she looks more like your dad.

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: I think that relationship was crazy.

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00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just that Opie was the protector,

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00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: was the parent kind of uh in her childhood and

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: standing up to the mom, and the mom doesn't like it,

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: so now she's punishing.

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Speaker 1: Nope, it's like the op's existence is a reminder of

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: the mother's failures. That's her parent. Yeah. Also, it's a

1317
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: whole lot more easier to get your license when your

1318
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: mom lets you drive her car everywhere and bought you

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: an eighteen thousand dollars car and paid for lessons all

1320
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: the while you don't even have a job or hobbies. Damn,

1321
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: this kid doesn't study, participate in any clubs, or do

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: anything with her free time. I work multiple jobs and

1323
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: have to walk everywhere while doing so. After these last

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: few messages, I blocked her.

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: This is really sad, and I hope that you get

1326
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: the therapy to properly address this.

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: I messaged my dad asking if I could call him.

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01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: He answered and started immediately yelling at me, telling me

1329
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: to calm down and stop messaging her. Apparently, my sister

1330
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: called him hysterical and spun a story to him that

1331
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: was so far from reality. I don't doubt that it was.

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure she said the real thing, which is like,

1333
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 3: look at this five paragraph message she sent me after

1334
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: I have to spin that far. I'm sorry my sister

1335
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: blocked me after reach our have a conversation, and yeah,

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: of course she's gonna call him hysterical.

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01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, here's the flip side. Nina in

1338
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: the comments said, maybe unpopular opinion here. Maybe mom sees

1339
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: where she messed up with OP and is now trying

1340
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: to correct it with the sister, like sort of being like,

1341
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pay like my you know whatever, my

1342
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: penance for my sins or whatever.

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: Actually, of course misguided because you should be doing that

1345
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: with the daughter. With both of your daughters, how old

1346
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: is op OPI is definitely older than their sister. I

1347
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: think they're already maybe in college or at the end

1348
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: of college or had to at least they went to

1349
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: college and I think dropped out or I had to

1350
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: come back home because they couldn't pay for it or something.

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, do you have an age in

1352
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: the story? Keon, she's just five years older? She's she's

1353
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: twenty three.

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like out of college, because remember I am five

1355
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: years old.

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right. We had that whole bit.

1357
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: I read him all the text messages to explain that

1358
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: I have done no wrong. He told me she must

1359
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: have read it wrong or something, and that I should

1360
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: just let her sit with it what I told him

1361
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: to tell her that I'll forgive her only if she

1362
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: understands I will not be apologetic about anything because I

1363
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong.

1364
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: And you guys are both just like your mom, and

1365
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: you can't tell yeah, oh, I did nothing wrong, so

1366
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: I won't apologize. You blocked her, you try to have

1367
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: a serious conversation over text, and then blocked your sister

1368
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: when she said, why are you blaming everything on me?

1369
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: You guys are both doing the same thing. It is

1370
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: so frustrating.

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01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's Ma's fault.

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01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: It's her fault, and I want you guys to get

1373
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: therapy and work together and not be mad at each

1374
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: other and be mad at your mom.

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01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, you're probably there's probably also a level of like

1376
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, like mania, but it's like to have

1377
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: that this is all happening over the course of like

1378
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, So it's like to have all these

1379
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: realizations about the dynamic that you had with your own mom,

1380
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: and like all this stuff is like a lot to

1381
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: process in one day. And it's like, I'm sure as

1382
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: time goes on, you'll probably also be able to take

1383
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: a step back, can be like wait, wait, wait, I've

1384
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: gone about this incorrectly.

1385
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because none of us are perfect, especially when you're

1386
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: dealing with stuff like this, that level of realization is

1387
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: a lot.

1388
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna gonna take more than a day to just Oh.

1389
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you guys get there be because they

1390
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: got The bond between siblings is very important, and I

1391
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: think that a lot of times parents can get in

1392
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: the way of that bond. And I hope you guys

1393
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: can find your way back to it because it seems

1394
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: like you guys are both important to each other.

1395
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: I agree, I think it could be very beneficial. You say,

1396
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: you know this stuff about how like your sister doesn't

1397
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: have any hobbies that she doesn't study, and it's.

1398
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: Like, like you could.

1399
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: Be a positive role model for her if you, like,

1400
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, could get in there as like a hey,

1401
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: like what are your hobbies? Like, what do you want

1402
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: to do as a career? Like give her some guidance

1403
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: because I feel like Mom's probably not Yeah, Mom's just

1404
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna consign whatever she wants, even if it's maybe not

1405
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: the best thing for her. Folks.

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01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: That is the end of that story and the end

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,120
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