1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Cool Welcome man, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I hope all of you had fantastic Thanksgivings with your 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: family and friends. I hope you lived in absolutely normal 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: life and we're not in your garage giving your friends 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: and family rapid COVID tests in your pregame premeal festivities. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: So much to get into. I was at the Iron 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: Bowl for Auburn Alabama, one of the best games ever 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: in one of the great rivalries of all time. Met 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: so many awesome Clay and Buck listeners there in Auburn, Alabama. 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: Sorry for the War Eagle contingent for that late collapse. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: We have got a new variant. Joe Biden is speaking 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: about it right now and he says it's a cause 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: for concern, not a cause for panic. We'll give you 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: some of that discussion here in a bit. Doctor Fouci 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: says that he is science in an awkward, uncomfortable and 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: wildly wildly evidentiary to me status there, that he needs 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: to be removed from any sort of government job, and 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: all he should have been fired a long time ago. 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: Will give you doctor, I am science Fouci. Kyle Rittenhouse 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: attended Arizona State. Attends Arizona State. He was very proud 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: of that. We told you that that was going to 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: come into question in the wake of his not guilty verdicts, 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and already there are protests at Arizona State demanding that 25 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: he'd be kicked out of school. We have got bands 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: on African travel, which we were all told was wildly 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: racist when Donald Trump did them, but because of the 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: new variant coming out of South Africa, it now is 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: totally acceptable since Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are doing it. 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Florida data some positive it iss all time molow in 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: hospitalizations from COVID going all the way back to April 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. No mask mandate, no vaccine mandate in 33 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Governor Ron DeSantis's free state of Florida. We will discuss 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: that where You're going to be joined by Alex Berenson 35 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: in the third hour of this program to discuss the 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: latest on COVID data. Of course, Alex has been banned 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: by many social media platforms, but he can talk directly 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to all of us through this program, which is a 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Voice of Light amid the darkness, Buck Sexton, how was 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving? It was excellent, although there was certainly some 41 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: discussion around the Thanksgiving leftovers tables over the weekend because 42 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: we had food for days and I was with family 43 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: about what happens now, Clay, because you see, you you 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: bring news of what it feels like to have relative 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: COVID freedom as a person who lives, right, I mean 46 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: as a person who lives still when you get an 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: in uber, you go to the airport, I'm here in 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: New York City, panic central. As you know, there are 49 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: masks on people outside all over the place, all over again. 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Even though we were told we've already been through this 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: in the springtime. You remember, they were like, you know, 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: probably don't really need masks outside unless you're really close somebody. 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: But people are freaked out. Biden speaking right now, as 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: we talk to everybody across the country about these travel 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: restrictions that you're mentioning, notably on South Africa, it's already 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: in a whole bunch of this omicron variant. And let's 57 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: take our moment because everyone has been making really the 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: same joke here. It was supposed to be, or it 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: would have been eventually the she I'm not even sure 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: if that's the Greek pronunciation, but it's x I, so 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I might be sae. Yes, you know, however, you say 62 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: and Z is the way that I would say it. Yeah, exactly. 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: They're skipping XI because they don't want it to be 64 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: the name of the Chinese premiere as the variant of 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the virus. So that's why we're at omicron right now. 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: And this is just another moment a time where we 67 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: have to look at what exactly are they telling us. 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: We've been told, oh my gosh, it could be so 69 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: much worse because of the mutations on the their actual 70 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: mutations on the virus. And again I don't understand the epidemiology. 71 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I understand policy, but they're looking at this and they're saying, Okay, 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: it could be worse. Well, we don't know if it's worse, 73 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: So what are we really doing. Okay, we're going to 74 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: have these travel restrictions in place. You say, Well, the 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: travel restrictions right now, Biden says, won't stop the variant. 76 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: And we already have our hospital capacity and therapeutics and 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: all these things that we've been gearing up for. So 78 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: it's not like at the very beginning when, as you 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and I know, Clay stopping travel from China was racist. 80 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: When Donald Trump totally racist, that was a different circumstance 81 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: based on the timing of what we see here. But 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: what's very clear is that this is yet again an 83 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: opportunity for there to be additional pressure on everybody must 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: get not just vaccinated, but boostered if vaccinated, because they're not. 85 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: They don't want to wait for the numbers to come out. 86 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: They want people to do this, everyone to do this, 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: including children, to be vaccinated and Clay, that's what this 88 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: really comes down to. It's a moment for them to 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: tell everybody you must forget natural immunity or forget everything. 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: You must get the shot or else. Everything is going 91 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: to be you must get the shot or else for 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: the entirety of the wintertime under this administration. This new 93 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: variant comes out of South Africa, and there is an 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: immediate media panic that has ensued, a political panic that 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: has ensued in the Blue States and among the usual 96 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: COVID fear porn purveyors. We don't know all of the 97 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: information about it yet, but we do know that the 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: South African doctor who identified this new variant has been 99 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: urging calm, saying there's no reason to panic, only mild 100 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: symptoms so far. The stock market, by the way, on 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Friday dropped a thousand points. We had restrictions coming out 102 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: all over the place. Your home state of New York. Buck. 103 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: They've done away with any sort of surgery that's non 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: emergency elective surgery been ended. But let's listen to what 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: she had to say. Cut eight, the South African doctor 106 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: discussing her discovery of this new variant. Looking at the 107 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: mildness of the symptoms that we are seeing currently, there's 108 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: no reason for panicking as we don't see severely ill patience. 109 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: The most predominant clinical complaint is severe fatigue for one 110 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: or two days, with the headache and the body ache 111 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: and pain. Some of them will have what they call 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: a scratchy throat, and some will have a cough, a 113 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: dry cough, but it's not a constant coffee comes and go, 114 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: and that's more or least than big symptoms that we 115 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: have seen. So Clay also, there's a point here about 116 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: when people say comes from South that's actually not even 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: known epidemiologically. I've been I've been looking, I've been looking 118 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: into discover so it may just be that they had 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: been testing very aggressively in a certain area and found 120 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: it first, because it already is in other places. So 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: this notion that we can isolate even the origin of 122 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: a virus like this or even the first does anyone 123 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: think this is the first mutation or the first very 124 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: It's not like it. You know, there's there's a variant mutation, 125 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: and we get that, we get the patient zero, so 126 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: to speak, the first guy. This is just where they're 127 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: finding it, which means it's already. Faucci even said it's 128 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: already probably here in America. I think they've even had 129 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: a handful of cases omicron cases in Australia. But given 130 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: which is very locked down, which is why that's noteworthy, 131 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: it still has all the a lot of international travel restrictions. 132 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, clay As, I mean, Faucci is 133 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: addressing the country, and I do think that he is 134 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the worst public health official in the modern history of 135 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: the United States and arguably in the planet. But put 136 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: that aside for a second. He and we'll come back 137 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: to it, must vaccinate the world to beat the pandemic. 138 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: This is now the new The whole world must get 139 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: vaccinated to beat the pandemic is what the messaging is 140 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: from the Biden administration. How long is that going to 141 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: take well? And also especially when the vaccines aren't particularly 142 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: effective at preventing the spread of virus. This is what 143 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: we said, by the way, on this show for months 144 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: that one of the reasons why they argued that every 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: single person out there had to be vaccinated the United 146 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: States kids, particularly people who've already had COVID, was they said, well, 147 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: you don't know where the variants are going to emerge, 148 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: and we said on this show, actually you can kind 149 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: of come up with a mathematical probability, and it's going 150 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: to be the countries where there are large populations and 151 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: where the virus is spreading most significantly. Delta, we think, 152 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: came out of India, and now this newest variant is 153 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: coming out of Africa, huge populations there. The virus is 154 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: going to mutate. And by the way, we should say 155 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: this too, some viral mutations could be favorable. We've only 156 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: been focused on Delta makes it easier to spread all 157 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: those things. It's possible oftentimes this happens buck where a 158 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: virus mutates to become easier to transmit, but far less virulent. 159 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: So it could be that this new variant out of 160 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: South Africa, which the doctor who found it, let me 161 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: make sure I get her name right, that we were 162 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: just listening to doctor Angelique Coatsy, it could be and 163 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this with Barrens in the third hour, 164 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: that some of these variants that emerge actually are helpful 165 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: because they are less debilitating and significant, even in the 166 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,119 Speaker 1: case of the elderly. As these variants spread, the mutations, 167 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: in other words, could be beneficial as opposed to always 168 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: being negative, which is the way the media covers them. 169 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: And yet the panic that ensued on Friday, I gotta 170 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: tell you felt so overblown from the perspective of an 171 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: administration that at this point has had multiple variants. And 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I think this is why they're having this. And Biden 173 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: still now talking the country. He says, I don't believe 174 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: shutdowns or lockdowns will be needed. The fact that this 175 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: is right now, okay, right as we're talking to you, 176 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Biden's also saying everybody should wear a mask indoors they 177 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: want to go based on this, And you have that 178 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: South African doctor saying, look, she's essentially describing the symptoms 179 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: of a mild cold. I think we all know that. 180 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: That is when you're talking about a slight sore throat fatigue, 181 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, or maybe a pretty you a medium cold. 182 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Biden is saying, I don't believe shutdowns or lockdowns will 183 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: be needed. The fact that their mentality is that we 184 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: would ever go back to that, The answer to that 185 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: should be no, never again. It wasn't effective when we 186 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: get it the last time, you're going to do this again. 187 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: This just shows the mentality. These people have lost their minds. 188 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: They have buck and there's never gonna be lockdowns in 189 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the Red State America again. Never ever, ever are people 190 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: going back to that. I don't even think people in 191 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the Red State America are going to wear masks. And 192 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: what I keep waiting for, and it hasn't happened yet, 193 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: is for Blue state America to say we're done with this. 194 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: New York, California, Michigan, Pennsylvania, places where Illinois there have 195 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: been draconian, dictator like metrics that have been undertaken that 196 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: are doing nothing to make people safer. By the way, 197 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: this is the significant part Florida, and I wanted to 198 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: read this because I doubt that anybody else is hardly 199 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: even going to discuss this in the media. I think 200 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of a significant detail. This is this morning, 201 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Florida announced that they now have the lowest rate of 202 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: COVID hospitalization that they have had going all the way 203 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: back to April of last year, under a thousand statewide 204 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: hospitalizations for the first time since they began tracking this 205 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: beginning in April of twenty twenty. Florida has the lowest 206 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: case rate in the country and the second lowest hospitalization rate. 207 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: No COVID vaccine mandate and no mask mandate virtually anywhere 208 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: in the state. I was down there for Thanksgiving, Buck 209 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: and in the Free States Tennessee, Florida, Texas. I was 210 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: in Alabama for the Iron Bowl. You would never know 211 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: COVID had ever existed. And you know what they say 212 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: about that clay, that statistic is making the rounds you're 213 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: putting it out there. I am, Oh, it's because everybody 214 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: got so sick over the summer in Florida. That's why 215 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, this her community for the wind. So 216 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: you sit here, you say, okay, so what exactly that 217 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: is the way forward? In these blue states. I'll explaining 218 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: what their plan is gonna be well, we'll come back 219 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: into more of this. Plus Fauci. 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You're supposed to be able to have debate. 253 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: You're supposed to have a discussion about what's real, what's not. 254 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Test and retest hypotheses. There's a scientific method. Sometimes you're wrong, 255 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: you say, hold on, could this be the case? You 256 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: try it out, it's wrong, You say, okay, we learned 257 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: something new. You move forward. Someone says, well I disagree. 258 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: You go okay, let's test it. That's what science. As 259 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: we were all taught in grammar school is supposed to be. 260 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: But folks, that's all wrong. I hate to be the 261 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: bearer of bad news. The notion of science as an 262 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: approach and a discipline, an intellectual discipline based upon data 263 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: and truth. Doctor Faucci is actually science, believe it or not. 264 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: He is science, the walking embodiment of it. The messiah 265 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: of science is that evil little smurf walking around in 266 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: his lab coat. Here he is. Anybody who's looking at 267 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: us carefully realizes that there's a distinct anti science flavor 268 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: to this. So if they get up and criticize science, 269 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna know what they're talking about. But if they 270 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Faucci, 271 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: well people could recognize there as a person there, So 272 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: it's easy to criticize. But they're really criticizing science. Because 273 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I represent science. That's dangerous. No serious scientist or human 274 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: being would ever say that on ironically out loud Clay. 275 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I represent science. He's every bit as bad as I've 276 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: said he is for almost two years now. Also, let's 277 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: put in context how this interview happens. We have requested 278 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: doctor Fouci to come on this show, because we have 279 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: questions we'd like to ask, and we'd be respectful. He's declined, 280 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: saying he doesn't have time. When I watched this interview 281 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: with CBS, they had an entire room set up for 282 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: an in depth interview on Face the Nation For people 283 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: out there who don't understand how these kind of things 284 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: get set up. This is a week's in the process, 285 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: sit down interview with doctor Fouci in an effort for 286 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: him to be able to directly combat his critics with 287 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: almost no pushback from his interviewer. When he says I 288 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: am science, which, as you said, the state is me, 289 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: I am the Senate. These are statements that are meglomaniacal right, 290 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these are not normal things that a person 291 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: would say. But when you actually break it down, he 292 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: seems to me Fauci like he is feeling the heat 293 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: on a level that he may not have before, because 294 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: this feels like an interview he's doing to try to 295 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: cancel out some of the negativity. There's that, and there's 296 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: also something that I think we're gonna be talking about 297 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: more probably in a few months than we are right now. 298 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: But that is what does the history of this actually sound? 299 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Like and look like this whole pandemic response. Faucci wants 300 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: to ride this thing out in his position to the 301 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: end so that they can claim victory. Yes, I know 302 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: this is going to drive people nuts. But the shutting 303 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: down of playgrounds so kids can't go outside to protect 304 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: them from COVID, the arresting of the paddle board around 305 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: and all of that will be swept under the rug 306 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: and it will be Fauci saves millions of fives, and 307 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: the Biden administration was putting him in the position to 308 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: do so that's the narrative that they want to cling to. 309 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: We'll get to that and more coming up here in 310 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: a moment. The uncertainty of a stock market continues to 311 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: make front page headlines. 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President Biden has 329 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: just finished speaking and he wants everybody to know. Hey, guys, 330 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: if we just wear masks and get vaccinated, we're not 331 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to have lockdowns again. I'm gonna tell you 332 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: this right now. If Joe Biden tries to implement lockdowns again, 333 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: there are going to be protests the likes of which 334 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we've ever seen in most of our 335 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: lives in the United States. Wait, wait, hold on, do 336 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: you think so? Yes, because because red states are not 337 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: locking down. Yeah, but it was always done at the 338 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: state level, right, so, and if Joe Biden try to 339 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: federal lockdown, I totally agree with you. But I dude, 340 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: I think New York and California people have lost their minds, 341 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Like they'll do it again. I hate to be the 342 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: bearer of bad news. They will do it again because 343 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: they take the virus seriously. I will tell you this. 344 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: My wife asked me the other day, buck She said, hey, 345 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: this we were talking about tangible impact on New York City. 346 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to go away for a couple of 347 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: days right around Christmas, just the two of us. And 348 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: she said, Hey, where do you want to go? Do 349 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: you want to go to New York City and the 350 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, and and and hang out and just the 351 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: two of us will go out. Uh and And I 352 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not vaccinated. I'm not gonna be 353 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: able to go to any restaurant. I can't go to 354 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: any What is this just the two of us? Where's 355 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: the buckster in this equation? Yeah? Well, uh, I mean, 356 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: and we got three kids. She's she's had a busy, busy, 357 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: busy fall. Like we've had a busy I've been on 358 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the road the whole time. So we're gonna get away 359 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: for a couple of days. And I was like, you know, 360 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: I love New York like a lot of people out there, 361 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: it's fun to go to New York for a weekend. 362 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I said, no, I don't want to 363 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: go to New York on a leisure, fun vacation trip. 364 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: And there have to be millions of people. I was 365 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: reading that the overall hotel occupancy rate remains massively low 366 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: for Manhattan, for New York City, And so you know 367 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna go to Florida for 368 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: a couple of days. And I spent a ton of 369 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: time in Florida already. But the reason I was thinking 370 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: about that, Buck is that's a tangible decision that is 371 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: fairly substantial amount of money that I could spend that 372 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: otherwise would go into New York City coffers, all of 373 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: the hotel rooms, all the taxes associated with our trip 374 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: to New York City. Instead, it's going to go to Florida. 375 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: And the reason why I thought that was interesting is Buck, 376 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: Florida has right now, according to the data that I've seen, 377 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: basically right back where they were in twenty nineteen in 378 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: terms of vacation. People are traveling to Florida at the 379 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: exact same rates nearly as they were and do you 380 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: know where I'm going for my birthday slash Christmas Florida, Miami, 381 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: right South Florida. Well, yeah, now we're getting really in 382 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the details. Yea, yeah, yeah, I mean, but it's not 383 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: a surprise, right, You're making a tangible decision people all 384 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: over the country. Maybe Nancy Pelosi's deciding to relocate there. 385 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And that's because I really think that there is going 386 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: to be a uprising. I really think this, Buck, and 387 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: you can call me crazy. I think Blue states, and 388 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: I think Blue State moms in particular, if they try 389 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: and take their kids back out of school and if 390 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: they tell them we're going back remote because of COVID, 391 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: I really think that they are going to rise up. 392 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: I think they're not going to take it anything. So 393 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so exposed, Clay to the smarmy authoritarians here 394 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: in New York that I can very easily envision where 395 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: they're likely to take this in the wintertime, and that 396 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: is not full on lockdown. And remember we never there's 397 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: so much here. We never did an actual lockdown the 398 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: way other countries did. In America. There were always it 399 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: was the you know, the zoom meeting slash bring you 400 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: your food that everybody has to go to the same 401 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: grocery store. But there were always frontline workers, people that 402 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: were still doing their jobs. I remember going to my 403 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: grocery store that I know the folks there, they didn't 404 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: miss a day at work, right, I mean, they were 405 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: showing up. They were doing their jobs day in and day. 406 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: So we never did a full even two week total 407 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: shutdown of everything obviously, because you can't do that, and 408 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: we didn't really do a full We didn't really do 409 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: a partial one. We shut down offices, restaurants, you know, 410 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: a number of other gathering venues, and then a lot 411 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: of the spread, of course, was occurring in hospitals and homes. Yes, 412 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: which is which is what would have been expected, I think. 413 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: But here's what I think they're going to do. They're 414 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: going to go back to the quasi restricts were so 415 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: abused in the Blue States. So everyone who's listening to 416 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: this in New York, I know, the Texans are all like, 417 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, stinks for you, Rightiandians Texans Tennessee. Maybe guys 418 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: are all sitting pretty sec footprint where you like, screw 419 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: you guys, if you live in if you live in 420 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: New York, if you live in California, if you live 421 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: in any number of New Jersey, you know, large blue states. 422 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: They're going to hobby do not shutdowns of restaurants, but 423 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: capacity restrictions, not total shutdowns of businesses, but mask requirements. 424 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: They're going to bring back these things, and that's going 425 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: to be one for the compliance. The mentality that this 426 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: brings about in people. Right, I'll do whatever I'm told. 427 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: And also, if we do have with all the natural 428 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: immunity and all the vaccinations that are out there right now, 429 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: we probably will have a well certainly, and I pray 430 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: and hope a much milder winter from COVID than we 431 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: did last time. You know what they're going to say, Clay, 432 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: All the restrictions saved us this time. That's what's good. 433 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: If we are at fifty percent of hospitalizations and fifty 434 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: percent of fatalities, which, by the way, I hope it's 435 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: much less than that, but obviously that would be progress. 436 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: They'll tell you that the mask requirements, the vax mandates, 437 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: all of that was what saved us. What's interesting is 438 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately places like Michigan, Minnesota, Vermont, New Hampshire, they're all 439 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: setting many of them either close to or new overall 440 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: hospitalization records. Now. Now, I hope the treatments and everything 441 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: else associated with that is going to lead to a 442 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: reduced death rate, but I'm not that optimistic about where 443 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: we are headed. By the way Fauci here, he is 444 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: as part of his interview saying, it's really too early 445 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: to say whether new lockdowns are mandates. We have to 446 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: prepare for the worst. I don't know, George, it's really 447 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: too early to say. We just really need to, as 448 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: I've said so often, prepare for the worst. And it 449 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: may not be that we're going to have to go 450 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the route that people are saying. We don't know a 451 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: lot about this virus, so we want to prepare as 452 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: best as we can. But it may turn out that 453 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: this preparation, although important, may not necessarily push us to 454 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: the next level. People talking about lockdowns, people talking about that, 455 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what the information that we're getting in real 456 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: time tells us, and we'll make decisions based on the 457 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: science and the evidence the way we always do. I 458 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: prepare for the worst every time Fouci opens his mouth, 459 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: because he is the worst. So this is not a 460 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: surprise to me at all. But this was also why 461 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: I was so concerned even in June Clay of this year, 462 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: when it felt like, all right, we got the vaccines 463 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: are rolling out. They've they've relented on masks a little bit, 464 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: or maybe it was more May, but you know, things 465 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: felt like they were really going in the right direction 466 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: back in May, and I said, no, no no, guys, we're 467 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: not done here, because they will bring back lockdowns and 468 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: mask mandates and all these things, because even though the 469 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: data does not support that this actually work the way 470 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: they send it would, it might have worked, you know, 471 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: two percent or whatever reduction they pretend like it did. 472 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: And this is this is why we keep having this fight. 473 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: This is why we keep going through this. This is 474 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: why also Florida is important because it's a direct example 475 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: proving that all of these masks and all these vaccine 476 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: mandates don't actually work at all. It's all cosmetic. You know, 477 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: there is a case that's starting. We've been talking a 478 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: lot about about judicial cases. Clay, very important case right 479 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: now that has not I've gotten the due attention that 480 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it deserves. Jesse Smolette is actually facing jury 481 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: being selected, jury being selected. I want to I have 482 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: some thoughts on Smolette and the media, and then we 483 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: have more on fouction. We got our friend Alex Barrens 484 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: and enjoining the third hour of the program. His book 485 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: Pandemia out this week, So y'all should get ready. I 486 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of just y'alled there. See I hung out with 487 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: you too much. Now this I mean, that's what we do. 488 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: It's our again. The y'all states are saying, y'all, come 489 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: on down here. We're living normal wives in all of 490 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: these blue states. I'm telling you the moms. I really 491 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: believe this. I think if they try to shut down schools, 492 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: the moms are going to revolt. Buck I'm telling you 493 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: they are, even in New Jersey, even in Connecticut, even 494 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: in New York. Oh. I don't think they'll shut down schools. 495 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll shut down schools. I think they 496 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: know that that's politically too that's politically too much. But 497 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: I think they will do restrictions, indoor restrictions, mass requirements. 498 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: I think that's probably Again, it all depends on what 499 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: the case slow it is too, which will continue to 500 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: follow here. 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That's eight hundred seven seven seven eighty 519 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: one oh nine. Or you can visit American Financing dot 520 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: net MLS one eight two three three four MLS, consumer 521 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: access dot org. Called today eight hundred and seven seven 522 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: seven eighty one oh no. Welcome back to Clay and 523 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Buck show. We have a trial underway soon here for 524 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Jesse small At. That's right, everybody, remember remember Jesse small At. 525 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: The trial starts today, jury selection underway. Now. This is 526 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: of course a much less serious issue orders of magnitude, 527 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: less serious than some of the recent trials that have 528 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: gotten media attention. But there's a reason that Clay and 529 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: I want to take a moment to talk to you 530 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: about this one because, oh my, the way that people 531 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: on the left that Democrats get things so wrong over 532 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: and over and don't seem to care it is fascinating. 533 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: It's almost like everybody who is in the corporate Democrat media, 534 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: and certainly all the members of the Democrat Party are 535 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: lawyers for anybody on the left out there. It doesn't 536 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: matter truth, lies, innocence, guilt, whatever, as long as we're 537 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: pushing for our team. I give you as Jesse Smolett 538 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: goes to trial, Remember Jesse Smoilett is a laughable liar 539 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: who faked a hate crime in such absurd fashion that 540 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: people like me and I mean Clay and I weren't 541 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: on the same show together then, but this is a 542 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: few years back. I'm sure Clay was right there too. 543 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: We're just saying, if you believe this, you're just honestly 544 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: not very bright, or you're pretending to believe it because 545 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: it suits the narrative. Kamala Harris, you can pick which 546 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: one is the case, tweeted this out of Jesse Smolette 547 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: is one of the kindest, most gentle human beings I know. 548 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted 549 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for 550 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: their life because of the sexuality, or color of their sexuality, 551 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: or their color of their skin. We must confront this hate. 552 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Clay this is the now now Vice President of the 553 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: United States. Then he was a senator. How could anyone 554 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: have heard the story and not said, Okay, so this 555 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: guy wants attention and he's lying. Well, I mean, just 556 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: the idea that very many Trump people knew who Jesse 557 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: small At was. And it's most when this story came out, 558 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know who Jesse small Att was. I didn't 559 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: watch Empire, but I'm way more plugged in than the 560 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: average person would be when it comes to entertainment. Who 561 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: was voting for Trump? The idea not only that you 562 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: would know Jesse small at but that you would know 563 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: him on site, that you would know his sexuality, like 564 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I've no earthly like hey, hold, all of this was 565 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: so absurdly ridiculous on site at like one am when 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: it's superty five degrees outside in Chicago and your hat 567 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: and you happen to find him with your Maga hats 568 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: on or idea, yes this is Maga country. Yeah, and 569 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: walking around in the street with nooses like in your 570 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: Maga hat. Yeah. Look, sometimes I would say this for everybody. 571 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: If a story seems too insanely perfect narratively, question it, 572 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: just quite like, be skeptical of initial media reports. I 573 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: was one of the few people into the Jesse Smalllett 574 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: story around the same time. Do you remember Michael Bennett 575 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: when he came out and he was like, I was 576 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: profiled in a Las Vegas casino. He's a football player, 577 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: and everybody in sports covered it. Oh my god, Michael Bennett, 578 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: poor example of racism. And then the videos came out 579 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: and he was running. He was refusing to accept police 580 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: responsibilit Like all these things. If everything in the narrative, 581 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: if you're checking every box so that your side wins 582 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: in a story, oftentimes it's too good to be true, 583 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: meaning it's manufactured and made up. But this is the 584 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: vice president that tweets still up, isn't it? Oh? It is? 585 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: It is indeed. And I just remember I learned a 586 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: less than years ago out media coverage with UH and 587 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, with with the liberal media, the lib media, 588 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: maybe you just called them the Marxist media. That would 589 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: be fun. I would really upset them. Um. But the 590 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: way that they all jumped on the story of the 591 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the UVA UH you know rape, they rape story that 592 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: was in Rolling Stone magazine. I remember this that I was, 593 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: you know earlier, Michael, would you remember what hear that was? 594 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: It was earlier Miteen's right, So it was much earlier 595 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: in my career. And but I remember my family. It 596 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: came up and I was sitting at a family dinner 597 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: and I had just read the article before dinner because 598 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: it was it was everywhere, right. I remember I looked him, 599 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I looked up in my family and it said, yeah, 600 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Yeah, and and im I was 601 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: angry at myself because you know what my thought was 602 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: when I read that story in Rolling Stone, because and 603 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: people said, how did you know the dialogue was absurd. 604 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: It was like something out of some after school special. 605 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: You know, Oh man, this will ruin your reputation. I 606 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: was in college, you were in college. They said that 607 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: a young woman with glass in her back ran like 608 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: like bleeding, ran and through a party shrieking. No one 609 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: called police, No one to the whole thing. No sense. 610 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: But Clay, you know what my thought process was. And 611 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: this reminds me of just a smalltt That's why I'm 612 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: they can't lie that big, right, There must be something 613 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: to this. They couldn't. They would know their credibility would 614 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: be zero if they lied about something so big, so egregiently. 615 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: And how I realized, I mean, I've known this for years. 616 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: Oh no, they'll lie about anything as big as they 617 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: can get away with, and they could care less when 618 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: they're caught. Well, that for me was the Missouri hoax, 619 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: all of the race hoaxes. Yeah, at Missoo, all of 620 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: it was made up. You know. They had a hunger 621 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: striker like but the poop swastika all that, And I 622 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: was skeptical years before that. I hadn't quite been red 623 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: filled yet, but I was skeptical. When the Duke Lacrosse 624 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: story came out the same way you were about the 625 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: UVA case. All of the details in that case didn't 626 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: make sense to me as someone who had covered college 627 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: athletics for a long time. I'm not saying people don't 628 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: high or strippers and throw like crazy parties. That happens, 629 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen the way that it was reported 630 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: in Duke Lacrosse. And the Duke Lacrosse case was interesting 631 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: because they took they in that there was at least 632 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: a framework of plausible facts, right, and then the story 633 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: didn't line up. And then of course the guys were 634 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: all innocent. They were charging somebody who was in an 635 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: ATM machine miles away. I mean, the whole thing. And 636 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: we all know Nifong, the prosecutor, there is an evil 637 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: human being and he offers he went he was disbarred. 638 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: The woman, by the way, in that case, the accuser 639 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: went on to murder somebody. They didn't charge her with 640 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: a fake with a you know, essentially a fake report, 641 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: false report. She went on to kill somebody or manslaughter, 642 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: so maybe they should have charged her just as an aside, 643 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: just like you know, they're charging Jesse Smollett right now 644 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: for false report, which is what they should be to 645 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: bring this all full circle. But in the in the 646 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone magazine piece about UVA, it was a complete 647 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: It was a top to bottom fabrication. Yes, it was 648 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: like it was like as Hanau gang rape allegations, which 649 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: got covered like they were real. I mean all of this. 650 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: I would just say in general, be skeptical of everything 651 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: that you read. Be skeptical just in the back of 652 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: your mind, be thinking, wait a minute, is this really true? 653 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: Because so much of it is not. And this is 654 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: why I'm furious about and you. I saw you tweeting 655 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: about it too, and I knew you would be over 656 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: the weekend. The way they're talking about Waukesha. They're writing 657 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: the headlines for Waukesha, for the mass murder, hate crime, slash, 658 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: domestic terror attack in Waukesha. The way they're writing about it, 659 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, a garbage truck came off the 660 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: emergency break and a tragedy ensued. No, a human being 661 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: killed a lot of people and wouldn't come to that. 662 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: In the second hour or two, we got more on 663 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: Fauci as well. Clay. We got a busy day here 664 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: on the show, no doubt. Alex Berenson in the third hour. 665 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: Stay tuned