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Speaker 1: people would say that club House took you from a

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Speaker 2: Listen, you call me lady, get away with it.

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Speaker 3: That is a rapper, and I will beat out of

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Speaker 3: that little bitty as you talk about it. Well, club

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Speaker 3: House is how I was introduced to.

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Speaker 2: The YouTube what we call the YouTube streets.

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Speaker 3: Remember, I tell you we got different divisions. So the

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Speaker 3: person they like, Yo, why you tell on Coo to

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Speaker 3: be like? I didn't tell on Cool to beat cool

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Speaker 3: to be told on me? He put the link up

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Speaker 3: Boom Daniel her name, that's paid me to go have

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Speaker 2: I could break thirty thousand.

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Speaker 4: If I could break thirty thousand, twenty five thousand, nine thousand,

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Speaker 4: no do that.

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Speaker 3: What's up with you and Jim Jones? And said what

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Speaker 3: Jim was the number two? I was the number one?

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Speaker 3: What mail brother was sleeping on the floor. I took

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Speaker 3: was Jim doing for mail murder? Matter of fact, Jim

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Speaker 3: Jones as was number two. They had more conspiracy charges

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Speaker 3: against me. You don't believe me, Boom. He put it

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Speaker 3: Jimmy just a rapper down here. Yeah, hey, hommie, this

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Speaker 1: Show how he number two and a rapper down here?

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Speaker 1: That don't make sense? Watch this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Whiston, that makes sense. How you

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Speaker 3: ain't got a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you the FAZ got you on the

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Speaker 3: I don't like how the Big U and wags Man

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Speaker 2: That's a FIVET, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I have never been to Alan Grumblatch's office about a

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Speaker 5: deal for Whack one Hunded Company, because you can't do

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Speaker 1: If these dudes is big you big homents and they

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Speaker 3: But also I'm wondering how much of that you can

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Speaker 2: I'm a wolf, I'm a lone wolf.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody I deal with from wherever they're from or

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Speaker 1: How you think they feel about you? Though? Who you

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Speaker 3: Keeter Rocke has called me two months ago as Mac

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Speaker 1: So what shug wasn't no games?

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Speaker 1: There podcast. You know the vibes final boss shit. You

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Speaker 1: That's how you know that executive side still in him.

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Speaker 3: Know, your training is your training, intuition is your intuition.

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Speaker 1: Facts, He ain't no gimmick.

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Speaker 2: This is a brother who that have been through some things.

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Speaker 3: because it ain't. None of y'all really asking nothing worth answer.

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Speaker 3: I don't tell nobody. I'll give anybody any restrictions.

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Speaker 3: Then, but then talking to you momentarily the other day,

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Speaker 3: Oh but you told me you was on your way west.

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Speaker 3: You know you mentioned my brother name and I said,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my name I'm talking about. I got real love.

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Speaker 1: Now. For sure, we're gonna we're gonna definitely chop it up.

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Speaker 3: And the next year or two it's gonna be you.

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Speaker 1: He is an anomaly in his game.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I put that on my kids, Like every time I'm

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Speaker 1: I can't even hit the crowd. I got them in

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Speaker 3: Whenever her and her significant her ex significant other going

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Speaker 3: Go to Taco Bill, run the bill up to two

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Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, we still I got

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Speaker 1: She'll that I'm noticing too.

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Speaker 1: That's something that's happening with card as far as the internet.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these people is leasing beats on YouTube, right,

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Speaker 3: A producer shouldn't allow somebody to lay on their production

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Speaker 2: You lay, you pay.

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Speaker 3: even demos of songs. Somehow it makes it to somebody

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Speaker 3: like Cardi Bees's team, Cardi Bees's team, here's it. Get

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Speaker 2: Cardy hears it, I like it. She lazy.

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Speaker 3: The producer ain't never been paid by these other people.

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Speaker 3: He probably don't even know. Because it got one hundred

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Speaker 3: it goes up because it's her. Now you claiming she

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Speaker 3: she couldn't steal nothing. She ain't never been in the studio,

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Speaker 3: which she don't know who you are. She ain't never

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Speaker 1: The team would have took care of. They massive over there, so.

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Speaker 3: They took By the time it gets to Carty, right,

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Speaker 3: it didn't went through all of that.

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Speaker 2: But owns got the fire.

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Speaker 1: Got the stems. Yeah, that's who owns that.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you ain't got no

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Speaker 3: If you ain't clear to say, you ain't get all

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Speaker 1: You just talking, Yeah, you're just talking. But I still

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Speaker 1: If you ask me, it feels like there's a there's

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying as a whole, Like I

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's let's get this straight right here, right

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Speaker 3: because I understand it. Flunk Master flex some time ago

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Speaker 3: See if you don't write your own wraps. Now, if

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Speaker 3: what I mean. It's just like Denzel ain't writing the

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Speaker 3: But then the dude that wrote the movie can get

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Speaker 3: don't work out. So that don't take away from who

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Speaker 3: Cardi is as a personality as an artist, her physical appearance,

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Speaker 1: Right. But see that's to you as understand the business.

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Speaker 1: They ain't attacking you. It's almost like the fishing scam

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Speaker 1: But it ain't for me. It's for the people who

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what we can't.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you said it because now it tells me

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Speaker 2: We can't leave it up to Shade Room.

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Speaker 3: And these other blogs to do the research and even

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't take away from Eyeric Bellinger, because without his

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Speaker 2: That don't take.

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Speaker 3: Away from Chris as well, right, because we're talking about

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Speaker 3: before it gets in order for it to get to you,

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Speaker 2: It's things that have to happen.

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Speaker 3: Process, makeup, wardrobe, A dude that can't dare choreography. You

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Speaker 3: you damn there need some bullet points because they just

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Speaker 3: of our A list artists and she's been that and

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00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: she's earned that because of where she come from, from

440
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: social media, from love and hip hop, you know, from

441
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: grinding it out and doing what she doing. Bro, She's

442
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: done something that I would have bet against. Cardi ain't

443
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 3: dropped the album in six seven years. Most people she

444
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: got one album. Most people right that attempts to do

445
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 3: that falls off. She stays relevant, she stays talked about.

446
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 3: She's continue to keep herself beautiful. Yeah, and she's staying

447
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: part of the conversation, right.

448
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, she got a hell of a fan base.

449
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: They can't take that from her. But I think that's

450
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, is trying to rob her

451
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: of some of that equity that she has in the

452
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: culture when they start to be like another one. See

453
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: here's the thing, bro, And I think you understanding this

454
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: right the way that you paint a narrative and how

455
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: we can start to chip away. See, you don't take

456
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: a bad down with the first you got to chip away.

457
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: You gonna keep coming.

458
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think they chipping They trying to chip

459
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: at it, chip at it, chip at it. But long

460
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: as she continues to, you know, deliver, Sh'll be okay. Man.

461
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

462
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: Cardy hasn't even begin to go into her bag of tricks.

463
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. If we talk about what

464
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: contributed to her big bang, that was when she crossed

465
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: over and did the Latin thing on the features, she

466
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: ain't even went over there. CARDI can shut down right now,

467
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: go over there, do a Latin run, tap into that

468
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: fan base that's probably be stronger than the urban fan base.

469
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: Mixed the two come back and do another run.

470
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: So that's a bear that it's gonna be very The

471
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: only person that can take Cardi down is Cardi, right.

472
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: Or Nikki if Nicki want to go one on one,

473
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: but she don't got the time. The business ain't gonna

474
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: allow that. You don't think Nikki can take Cardy down?

475
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: She can't do it.

476
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: Kiss my mother.

477
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why Nikki ten years ago could

478
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: have did it. The married Nikki, the mother Nicki.

479
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: She don't got that venom no more.

480
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: She ain't got that venom no more. Now, if you

481
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: come at Nikki, she gonna stand up, but she gonna buck.

482
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: She's been up under that cash money thing they want.

483
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: She ain't know nothing but.

484
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: To do that.

485
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 3: But you know, at this point, the only thing they

486
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: can do as women in this game is avatar plugging

487
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: to each other, uplift and get on the tour and

488
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: make a run. Yeah right, And I would love to

489
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: see them do a tour to where it ain't no

490
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: fight on who go headline? If it's thirty dates, fifteen shows,

491
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: you headline, fifteen shows, she headline.

492
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think the ego in our culture bro

493
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: is out of control. I did enjoy. We had a

494
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: moment and salute to Yo. Got it because I think

495
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: he kind of spearheaded it when he would sign an

496
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: act like money Bag Yo, he would do a joint tape,

497
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: and then you start to see joint tapes. You saw

498
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: a thug and a future tape, You saw a draking

499
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: a future tape. You start to see people do that.

500
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: It just disappeared. Joint tapes kind of just went away.

501
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering because for me, that's such, that's a

502
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: great idea. I know, the business on the back end

503
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: is always something that is in question because who label

504
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: gets it, what who contract doesn't count for you know,

505
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: those go towards both of them.

506
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: When we did og Bobby billions outside More three had

507
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: already did it and it didn't perform too well. Four

508
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 3: or five months later, blue Face hooked with him and

509
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: he does it his way.

510
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: So y'all's done more than More three, Jump more three?

511
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Ship was I like.

512
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: Fourteen fifteen thousand streams. That was it. It was standing still, right,

513
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: that's all it was. For whatever reason it didn't perform.

514
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't respect the combination of Bobby and MO

515
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: three wherever they're from.

516
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: I feel like some Dallas politicians.

517
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

518
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: I personally I love the song. Yeah, personally, I love

519
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: more Three Shot Out Praying Wider. I believe they did

520
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: a great child. So when Blue Face steps in, he

521
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: brings Bobby out. He let Bobby go to his crib.

522
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: They did everything together, right, shot the video everything. He

523
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: delivers it to me. I get on the phone with Ghazi.

524
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: There's now it's a problem with the labels, right, my

525
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: label and Bobby's up at Empire Ghazi family. Gozi called

526
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: me and said, Wack, you know, it's ain't gonna be

527
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: no problem. We're gonna work it out. I got out

528
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: and Grumblack on the phone, the one that was running

529
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: the one. I got Ghazi on the phone. I said, hey,

530
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: listen out it. That's the artist blue Faces over here

531
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: and this building over here. At this time, I said,

532
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. He gonna put this money up,

533
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: y'all gonna put this money up. We're gonna break everything

534
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: down the middle. It's gonna go on Bobby's page, It's

535
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: gonna go on Blue Face page.

536
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: Empire is Better. Got a stronger.

537
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: Team at doing these things, and we got a stronger

538
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: team that doing these things. So we're gonna attack this

539
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: and we're gonna had that, and it was cool.

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: We let it go.

541
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: We shot passed, right, This shot passed Soul store. Let

542
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: me tell you what they did. And only because it

543
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: was Ghazi, I let it happen. So Blueface say, uh,

544
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call my version better Days, so they know

545
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: the difference between outside what Bobby and MO three did

546
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: and with Blue Face and Bobby did, so ours was

547
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 3: called better Days. When they looked up and saw twenty million,

548
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: thirty million, forty min is growing, they turned around and

549
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: changed the name of the MO.

550
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: Three versions real I didn't know that and called.

551
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: That better Days. Right, So what they did they put

552
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: out in parentheses better Day. So now when people coming

553
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: to look for the joint, don't neither one of them

554
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: say more three or Blue Face. When you're gonna look

555
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: at Spotify, you gotta dig to see that. They starting

556
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: to hit the other one in search each of the

557
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: other way. So what it did for Empire, right, Gazi,

558
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: my brother, What it did for Empire was give them

559
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: a boost on the other version they had.

560
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: They were double dip.

561
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: We lost probably about thirty thirty five percent of what

562
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: really would have just went to us.

563
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: If it would have just said better day.

564
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: Even right now in today, I believe it's like seventy

565
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: five million now. It then got that to seventy five million,

566
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: and we like one hundred and thirty hundred and forty

567
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: million on the Blue Face edition.

568
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: Right, I ain't know that, man, I'm tripping.

569
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: Listen, let me listen. I had to tell somebody this

570
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: other day, I'm about to open your eyes. Blue Face

571
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: did boosted it and put their cables to a couple

572
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: artists who was teetering. Bobby Billions. One my man from Memphis,

573
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: Chopper in Elite Chopper shot a Flow.

574
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: So go check the remix.

575
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: Listen you okay now that boy, Chopper, hell now, I'm

576
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: giving you this so you can go do the research

577
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: on that.

578
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: Bobby Billions, Our better Days outside Boom nl E Chopper

579
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 3: Love Nephew, The Devil Loves Mama Crazy, Remind me of

580
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: my mama.

581
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: That's my home girl Shotter Flow remix.

582
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: Go check them, Go check and see what was already

583
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: there and what happened when we remixed it and Blue

584
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: Face remixed that. On the studio bus we was out

585
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: on tour with a little baby twenty nineteen and I

586
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: had Stunner.

587
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Get us a studio bus.

588
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: The only reason why that happened, DDG Calabasas, go look

589
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: at the original.

590
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: I can see that for DDJ.

591
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Go look at the.

592
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: Original and look at it. Months later when blue Face touched.

593
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: It, y'all charge DDG for that is him and blue

594
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Face still good, show him support.

595
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Brother and say blue Face needs something weak d d

596
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: G solid.

597
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: So he did.

598
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: So that's three. That's three of them right there, and

599
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: that's you know.

600
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: Most like like Blue got about Blue probably got about

601
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: three folk platinums and three folk goals.

602
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. People don't even people.

603
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: And is that major? Is that just through your your life?

604
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 3: No, that's some cash money and then some like and

605
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: all that was Indie that distributed through E one right,

606
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: So it's a lot, you know, it's a lot.

607
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: That went on with him, and he don't get his

608
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: his just.

609
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: Dude, Chop is one of them.

610
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: All is too.

611
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Like I see he gets frustrated because he's like, yo,

612
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: I got all these planks, all these listens, these views

613
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: over billionaires, and when they talk about the young they

614
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: just act like he.

615
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Ain't wanted and won.

616
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: Now I will tell you this now because I got

617
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for Nephew, A lot of them.

618
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: I men even have a mustache, right, I got a

619
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: lot of You can tell you a few reasons why,

620
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: and I've never said these things to him. One, when

621
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: people thought it was over for him, he kept grinding.

622
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: I look up.

623
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: He didn't created uh uh diets and all kinds of shit,

624
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, health the whole health run. Two he become

625
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: a fashion statement. Three I'm gonna tell you what was

626
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: more gangster than anything with Nephew.

627
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: Everywhere he go.

628
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: He has a brother that's from the community. His brother

629
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: be right there with him, fun Center. Most rappers would

630
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: have tried to do what high. Yes, yes, they tried

631
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: to the fact, you know what I'm saying, And I

632
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: respect that in his mama and his daddy is part

633
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: of the team. I gave him his stylist sister name

634
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: Mike kel out of Detroit. Actually his her mother just

635
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: got part in after thirty something years, you know what

636
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So yeah, but I really that's why when

637
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: him and Blue Face started getting into it, called.

638
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: I forgot about Yeah, they had a little run in junior.

639
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I called his mama me and his mama got

640
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: on the phone and I'm like, you know, this can't happen.

641
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: I didn't even want to call him because I didn't

642
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: want him to feel like I was calling him to

643
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: press him get on him about nothing, because I got

644
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: a lot of love and respect, and I know he

645
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: respect me. You know what I'm saying. He showed up

646
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: for my daughter sweet sixteen. You know, he didn't did

647
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: a lot of sentimental things. And I told Blue Face, hey,

648
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: we gotta figure out another way. I don't even remember

649
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: what it was about.

650
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know blue Face was out for he

651
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: went to jail or he was pushing the line on

652
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: the rapper.

653
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was blue Face telling him getting.

654
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: The ring on the rapp I'm talking about.

655
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: He was.

656
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: He was coming strong where you pull up like and

657
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: I think I guess because he boxing his ship so

658
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: he felt comfortable in that squad.

659
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: You gotta remember, this is a this is a let's

660
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: ax out the streets. This is an athletic young man

661
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: who's been in the position of quarterback, so he's always

662
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: in the position of leadership and being confronted with a challenge.

663
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: You know, you play ball pretty shore, so when you're

664
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: in that position. You're the captain of the team, and

665
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: you gotta deal with the field. Read the field.

666
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: So his mindset is always an act. You know.

667
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: When he comes to me, he said, listen, I'm assigned

668
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: to you, but I want you to teach me right now.

669
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't scared to teach him because he wanted those

670
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: that when he become that boss. He always had me. Anyway,

671
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes want to handicap their artists. You

672
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: know that, ain't every Every last one of my artists

673
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: is a boss. Ray J is a boss. Ray J

674
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: gave me my first job, executive job in the game.

675
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: He pulled me out of the goon ship to the office.

676
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: What made him do that?

677
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: Everybody had turned their back and he was in the

678
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: studio working, studio working, and he knew I had a

679
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: relationship with DJ K Slay. At the time, New York

680
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Radio was burnt down by sugaring him from the West,

681
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: so he like, yo.

682
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: You got the radio plugs? He had.

683
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Detailed was homeless in Detroit. Ray J don't get a

684
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: lot of credit for things he did. Detail was homeless.

685
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Ray J moved Detail out here, letting him live in

686
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: his mother house. From that came six he cannot without sex,

687
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: he can on There's no drunken Love, There's no because

688
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: that song is what gave detail his No rid Acon

689
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: got hits, everybody got hits out of him. It was

690
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: because of that move. Ray J seeing this man homeless

691
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: and took this man and brought him back, let him

692
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: stay at his mama house, got a shout out the

693
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: La buck l a young buck. He was an instrumental

694
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: in that too, And from that came Sexy Canna, you

695
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

696
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: And from that I thought there was a hit maker record.

697
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: No, that was all record. What we did is we

698
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: allowed them the lights. They paid us to put it

699
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: on on Hit on Young Birds album. They paid us

700
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: six figures to run it bowt legging. That came out

701
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: on All Our Feel Ray J's album. But then right

702
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: after that they put it on they let it float

703
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: to that album. And it was for a reason because see,

704
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: you gotta remember, if you got a song that already

705
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: did numbers right right when you put it on another album,

706
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: it may not go to the first week. Well back

707
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: then it was going to the first week count. Now

708
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: it's going to the overall, which helps you chart. That's

709
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 3: what's going on with what Cardy.

710
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all those songs, so she platting them before

711
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: she even dropped. She platting them before she put the

712
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: titles to her songs flag behind it. Yeah, but it

713
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: don't matter because she cushion it for the boardroom. That's

714
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: a boardroom.

715
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: That's a boardroom. Got nothing to do with the fans.

716
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: That's but I will say this for the world to know.

717
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: She got a song on their five years old, another

718
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: song on their three years old, and then the most current.

719
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: The reason why the label was doing it like that,

720
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: it's because the budget that these songs were done from

721
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: is from the album.

722
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: Budget that she's releasing.

723
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: It ain't like all this.

724
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: They just been waiting on Cardy. Okay, then why the delay?

725
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: Cardy been having kids?

726
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I'm saying.

727
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: Relationship problems, you know, legal problems, was going on with

728
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: her significant other things was going on to where she

729
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: wasn't focused or wasn't that she didn't want to do it.

730
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: It just things started happening. So these songs was part

731
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: of the project. The project just took a little longer

732
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: to come out.

733
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Now I will say this about the

734
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: outside and better days. MO three voice is what made

735
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: that song.

736
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: I love what I love about what I love about

737
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: all of them. First of all, I just talked to

738
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: ring while the other day I'm like, bro, I love

739
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: O G Bobby Billions because he got that mclot that melodic.

740
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: I'm a rod wave fan me too. I love that.

741
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: That hard All Nights touched my soul. Yeah, he he

742
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: do to me with Kevin Gates bars.

743
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Do that he touched Kevin When you.

744
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: Got that melodic thing going on and then you got

745
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: that MO three delivery going on, right, you couldn't. It

746
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: was an explosion. I tell Blue Face, ain't nephew show

747
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: you want to play with that? He said, Yeah, I'm

748
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: gonna play with it my way and give it another look.

749
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: Because I was like, I took nuts to do that, Bro.

750
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: But and and he played it. Listen, Not only did

751
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: he play with it, the people spoke.

752
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: Is that you working it or the people liking the record?

753
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: No? Our only only thing we do is that maybe

754
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: the first push and when when gods like us work.

755
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: So you got a bunch of felonious, fraudulent dudes playing

756
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: with bots? Yes, No, because I got some game. I'm

757
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 3: gonna get to you too.

758
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: Right.

759
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: It's like this, when the pastor step in front of

760
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: a congregation, if he got a congregation of a hundred, right,

761
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: he can guess to make thirty to fifty percent of

762
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: these people gonna donate.

763
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: So that's thirty to fifty people.

764
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: If I put this same congregation in front of a

765
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: thousand front of the past in front of a thousand,

766
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 3: and the same rules of plot numbers apply. Now that's

767
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: three hundred, the five hundred. If I put that same

768
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: pastor in front of ten thousand or a million people,

769
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: the same percentage, but it brings a bigger number. So

770
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm able to take a song right instead of it

771
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: being put in front of because more three and Bobby

772
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: Bellions was part of the same label Empire, and at

773
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: the time, what the Empire would do they would push

774
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: the song out and they'll see if it catches, and

775
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: then if it catches, then they'll push it.

776
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm pushing it.

777
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, program the song in front of ten million,

778
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: A percentage of the ten million gonna like it.

779
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: We gonna see it, they gonna stream it.

780
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna tap into they analytics and see who they

781
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: fan base are, and now we're gonna put the song

782
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: in front of them and then we get off of

783
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: it and let it naturally do it stay right. This

784
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: is why when Spotify was doing it sweet, you never

785
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: heard of blue face a game on Ray J's music

786
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: it being pulled down right.

787
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: There was a whole lot of cats we was in.

788
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: They got Hedrick posed to had allegedly lost a lot

789
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: of listeners, and people are losing listeners for whatever reason

790
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: right now.

791
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: Now see what, Kendrick, I'm gonna tell you why.

792
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: It's a little tricky. You're dealing with two powerhouses that

793
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: know the game. Right. So if I'm on the other

794
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: side of it and it is just me speaking, right,

795
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: I know some things, but I'm just gonna I'm speak

796
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: in general. If I'm on the other side of it,

797
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: I opposing Kendrick right, and I'm knowing, God damn, this

798
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: song is moving. I see it organically moving, and I'm like,

799
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: at this pace. Because I've had songs that moved at

800
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: this pace, I know where it's gonna end up. I

801
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: can hit my team, a hit them people over there

802
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: in India. Body mother here, take this thirty thousand, yeah,

803
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: and put I want five million bots on there back

804
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: and you wait, right, Kendrick ain't doing nothing, it's organically

805
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: growing right, And then you say, oh, I think this

806
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: is going on? Where you know what's going on because

807
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: you the one paid to do it, right, Kendrick in

808
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: them is smart enough to know that when you going

809
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: hit their head with another powerhouse, you can't play no games.

810
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: Now.

811
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: This is why I say this. When you look at

812
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: the other side of it, it's squeaky clean. That's facts

813
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: you understand.

814
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: What do you think you think it's zero.

815
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: Grow listen up up to see the other side of it.

816
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: Being squeaky clean tells you do you really think Kendrick

817
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: Lamar and his team knowing Remember Kendrick's first world tour

818
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: he opened up for who Boom?

819
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: So common sense.

820
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: Tells you that these people know that they know the

821
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: game because they was doing it. Be funny you think

822
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: this man is fit to roll the dice on doing

823
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: some for Gayzy when he know that these people understand

824
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: it just like he understand it. But when you look

825
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: over there, it's squeaky. If you know you calling somebody

826
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: to record him, right, everything about your conversation gonna be

827
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: on this Lord yes, Lord that you asking them ship

828
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: to trigger them because you know it's still record, right. Okay,

829
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: did do you think Drake literally has zero bots?

830
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I just find that hard for any artist to have.

831
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: You come from?

832
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Why come from?

833
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Nah?

834
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: I got you looking at it another way now.

835
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: You like, hold on, yeh, I don't think no artist

836
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: has zero bots. Like your cousin told you, hey, when

837
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: park to make sure.

838
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: You clean.

839
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: Right and stay off your phone because they got you,

840
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: tapped you two blocks from the park, but you got

841
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: enough time to pull over.

842
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: It's some bushes over.

843
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: There, exactly right. If you don't watch it, no, no,

844
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: watch how it work. You come through the park right.

845
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: Loon they hit it. Everybody that usually got what they got.

846
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: They little weed, they peeled, they guns got them.

847
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 2: Everybody know. Loon is known.

848
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: He ain't never not got it on him.

849
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden they didn't tow your car

850
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: up strip two naked, ain't nothing there.

851
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: Some of them negroes gonna say what Loon has?

852
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Some do.

853
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: So sometime when you see the perception and I hate

854
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: to say it because I still have nightmares because at

855
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: a young early points in my life, you know, trickery

856
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: and Deceit worked against me because I didn't understand. You know,

857
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: when somebody this dude got a problem with this dude,

858
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: and here's a problem over here. So he had come

859
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 3: tell you what he really did to him. He did

860
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: so he could kill two birds with one song, and

861
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: you find out lady in the game, dude ain't had

862
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: nothing to do with it.

863
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: But the whole time it was about his brawl. Right.

864
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: So you know, when you're dealing with these type of things,

865
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: is there the younger generation ain't gonna understand it, respectfully.

866
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: We bragged about selling the dope. They bragged about using

867
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: the dope. So when you're using the dope, your scruples here,

868
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: ain't doing this.

869
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We don't sleep, we rest.

870
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I can tell you right now you didne got

871
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: them several times, one, two, three o'clock in the morning.

872
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: And it's something here. You gotta pull it out, you

873
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 3: place in the backyard. You just you know, it's something

874
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: you thinking about.

875
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: Right.

876
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: So the youngsters, anything you tell them they going off with.

877
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: They hen I hate thinking about it.

878
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: I hate that for them too, man, because they lost

879
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: in La La Land. You can tell them anything they

880
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna move with it you know what I'm saying. And

881
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: but you understand that again, And we're gonna get to

882
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: some of the narratives that you cause you're you're a

883
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: hell of it with the narrative shit. You know how

884
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: to paint a narratives, turn a narrative twist.

885
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: To take a lot of people.

886
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: But some people it's like I get warning to a

887
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: lot of people that only they know I'm giving them

888
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: a warning. You know, I might say something that only

889
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: they know what I'm saying. But it's like stop playing,

890
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: you know, because and people, the biggest thing I hear

891
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: is how does he got all this information? This is

892
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: the biggest thing. First, whatever is court documented is public record.

893
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: First of all. Now, if we don't know you, we

894
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: don't know you. But once we even.

895
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: Bumped heads, like I got a that clubhouse app, I

896
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: didne took that app and turned it. That's a straight penitentiary.

897
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: I got divisions. If you go old clubhouses, say who's

898
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: the queen? You know one hundred side, they gonna say.

899
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: R and B.

900
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I think is JG got.

901
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: Security, I got spies.

902
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: I got research team at the exposers as military dudes,

903
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: dudes that do parent legal work. They don't talk, they

904
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: don't do much, but once it's time to go right,

905
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: they gonna dig into you.

906
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: But you know what I think, when even when if

907
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: we rewind back to the pandemic, because a part of me,

908
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I really want to talk about this clubhouse thing, even

909
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: if we rewind back to the pandemic. I say when

910
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: I first I did an interview with Riggie White a

911
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: long time ago, Yeah yeah, and I was telling him, Man,

912
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't like how the big U and wag shit man,

913
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: because they showed a lot of the youngsters the red

914
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: and Blue make green.

915
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: That's a fact.

916
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I just didn't like it.

917
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: And we'll get to that in the minute, but let's

918
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: just speak about clubhouse for a minute. I was say, Man,

919
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: this is whack running that shit like a real.

920
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: Prisons fact, like a gang, and he got folks respecting

921
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: the high archy and all shit.

922
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm tripping off that. But that's one of your your

923
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: strong suits is like, you know how to congregate me

924
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: because in lead and make because you know what I'm saying.

925
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the reason why leading is easy

926
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: to me.

927
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: I was taught young by my homeboy, little man six dudes,

928
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: brim I hate that penitentiary. Was a pup sixteen seventeen

929
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: and he was a lifer. He' home now doing great.

930
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: He said, you got two ways you can do it.

931
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: The dictatorship, which keeps the body weak because once you

932
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: knock the head off it can't function. Or the teacher

933
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: and the student. And the goal is as a teacher,

934
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: right as I am to you, right now you're my student,

935
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: is to turn your student into a teacher, right, he said,

936
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: Now something that come along with that. I said, what's that?

937
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: He said, it's who's in death to those before you.

938
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: You gotta remain the strongest soldier for the ones to follow.

939
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 3: The mission is to move forward, to get their means,

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: not to know how far to go. So I was

941
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: a student when I hit that yard, and I absorbed it.

942
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: It became a teacher, and then as a teacher I

943
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: start teaching other students. See, when you running that shot

944
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: called thing, right, you want to keep everything weak and

945
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 3: dependent in fear of you. But once you fall, the

946
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: causes is going, but.

947
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: It's still a little bit of fear. It's still because

948
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't respect nothing but violence and fear. So you

949
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: still had a there's still an element of people that

950
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: was on clubhouse, that's in your rooms and your part

951
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: of your congregation that when you raise your voice, so

952
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: you go get the big mic.

953
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: Can the well see that only happens to don't because see,

954
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: you gotta remember it got so big over there to

955
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: where you start having people sending people to infiltrate to

956
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 3: try to figure out what we was doing. Bro That

957
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 3: shit ain't closed down for three and a half years.

958
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 3: The hundred side of the clubhouse been opened twenty four seven,

959
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: is compiled of fifteen rooms. I got a squad that

960
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: schedules the rooms. We got backcheck.

961
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: I gotta like a company. I gotta like I got.

962
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: A security room backchack.

963
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: If all of the hits the app and she in

964
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: the room and she start having a back and forth,

965
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: one of the spies is gonna send that link to

966
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: where she's at. They gonna say the queen getting into it.

967
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: The security of the hunding side beasts.

968
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: You know when you say security, you basically did telling

969
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: about this. Finna come holling his scream.

970
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: You know you got homie, so I took block that

971
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: can say the most hated shit bag talk about you like, right,

972
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: I got a squad of these crazy, these people that

973
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: that's what they do.

974
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: I got administration people. When it's time.

975
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 3: If I say, yo, lum, coming to clubhouse, they gonna

976
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: go create PTRs, the artwork with you. They gonna have

977
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: a waller uniform, the questions they're gonna ask, like, you

978
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: know what.

979
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: I say, You're running it like a company man. But

980
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: but I wonder, because again, let's let's bag up to

981
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: the pandemic time. You had had no interaction with social

982
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: audio before that.

983
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: Dj K s Lay he made me get on the internet.

984
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: We fought. Whack one hundred was created because of case

985
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: Lay on Instagram.

986
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: He made me.

987
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: Stop, pull over, pull out your phone, download the app.

988
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: I put in Whack it wasn't available. I put in

989
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: Whack one. It wasn't.

990
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: If Whack one hundrey would have been avent about have

991
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: been Whacked one thousand, Whack one hundred was available, right,

992
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: So case Slay I'll never forget. He said, Hey, little bro,

993
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: they got this thing called clubhouse. He said, it's a

994
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: few days going on. I don't like they got all

995
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: the celebrities over there, he said, But the celebrities some

996
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: of these clowns be.

997
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Talking down to the regular people.

998
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: Now, case slave is a dude that likes to mingle

999
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: with the regular people, right, He said, I'm gonna have

1000
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: somebody else send you an invite, because whatever you do

1001
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: to invite E get in trouble for.

1002
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: And I know you finna come over. I don't know

1003
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do.

1004
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: And sure enough I came over there and it would

1005
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: be some celebrities talking crazy, talking belt on the people,

1006
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, bro, what's up? They were like,

1007
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: who is that this whack wha? I'm like, yeah, you

1008
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: remember when you was the studio You the one got

1009
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: slapped in the studio on strip. That's you, right, So

1010
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: when world got out whack on Clubhouse, all the ones

1011
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: who knew they had the dirt either humble theyself or

1012
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: they left.

1013
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: That's but that's crazy to me, man, because.

1014
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: I was alive from Loran. You gotta remember, I'm one

1015
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: to one. I'm the only one like me that come

1016
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: from the generation I come from in the business and

1017
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: know what I know and have seen what I've seen

1018
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: that will voice it and stand on these plans.

1019
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: You don't.

1020
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: You got a lot of people that know some things.

1021
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: But they not gonna sit there and they ain't gonna

1022
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: talk about it. But you got a lot of people

1023
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: been on it on the street side, but not on

1024
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: the corporate side. I didn't been in the building, I

1025
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: didn't been over here. I know about that. I was

1026
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: there for that. I was there for this. This is

1027
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: why me and Redge get along so well?

1028
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1029
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: And when should go to playing every now and then

1030
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: we gotta like spanking like bro goes.

1031
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why you want to whack Redge and

1032
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: ray j that's back? What are you doing?

1033
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1034
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: What did you understand that?

1035
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: The shit we know courage? You know some shit Mob James.

1036
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: Mob James did what he did. You can but what

1037
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: you can't take from me. Without Mob James, the stigma

1038
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: of death Row wouldn't have been there.

1039
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: So he was the land.

1040
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: He brought the strength.

1041
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 3: Can't nobody all these names you here, BUNCHERI out timmy them,

1042
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: Mob James little brothers, his real little brothers. Mob brought

1043
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: the strength. He brought the gangster shit over there. You know,

1044
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: So what shug wasn't no sugar listen. Put it like this.

1045
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: You was not born coming up in Compton, and you

1046
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: making it to college. The college was the penitentiary. All

1047
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: you got to do is look at this age group

1048
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: of his age bracket, and you tell me how many

1049
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: people either your ass died or your ass was at

1050
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: the penitentiary. Right, he got the money. He grew up

1051
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: over there, as Reggie grew up over there. But Reggie

1052
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 3: was a cop. His author was a cop, So should

1053
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: played it right. This wasn't just a copy hired. It's

1054
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: somebody he knew that grew up over there. Mob James

1055
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: them over there putting in work. They on some street ship.

1056
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: They hustling, Right, so Shug got the bag and he

1057
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: brought them around him. But see what happens is when

1058
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: somebody like you come from where you come from and

1059
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: get the bag. We hustle on the block to get

1060
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: off the block. Exactly when you a dude that never

1061
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: was on the block and you get the bag, you

1062
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: run back to the block.

1063
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: You won't there know thearioty, we know that, but he

1064
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: ain't go through what.

1065
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: You went through. Yeah, so that's crazy. So you said

1066
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: he basically got rich and then wanted to really push

1067
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: the po rule, the blood shit, the gangster ship.

1068
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: Dude didn't make it to the penitentiary. He was damnar

1069
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: thirty and some shit that ain't cool, right, but he

1070
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, he was infatuated with these stories and you know, but.

1071
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: We saw him put in We saw him pushing the

1072
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: line though. We saw him get into it, and we

1073
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: had a prey.

1074
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: When have you ever seen sug?

1075
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, sug. Yeah, he just had to get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1076
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: When the homies bagged up, you start seeing should get

1077
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: hands put on him. Because I was the last one

1078
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: to tell him, hey, look, bro, you got the whole

1079
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: industry spook. Every time we pull up just scattering. I'm

1080
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: thinking we hit out of a conversation with these people

1081
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: and this other shit you doing. You know, he did

1082
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: something to the footbool cats that.

1083
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what you doing. You can't do that.

1084
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: They're pillar in on what's going on? Sit out and

1085
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: talk business with these people. Right, So everybody started to

1086
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: get away because and that's why ray J did what

1087
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: he did. He said, whack you smart, you got connects,

1088
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: and you dirty filthy. I'm R and B, but I'm

1089
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: a little dirty filthy R and B. We gonna let

1090
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: you use your connects and let's get this thing done.

1091
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: In the building at the time, Study Box on Main

1092
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: Street was my neighbor. Stutter Box had the relationship with Shaq.

1093
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: I had the relationship with k Slay, so we brought

1094
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: that all together. Stutter Box used a shock to get

1095
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: us in the building. I used the K Slay. If

1096
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: you go look at all, I feel K Slay is

1097
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: the A and R or that album or that R

1098
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: and B out there. So I'm standing on ray J

1099
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: side as management steud of Boxer, standing on shocking them side.

1100
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: They tried to get rid of Box and at him

1101
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: out when the business was going, but I told him

1102
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: you can't send ray J kept it gangster and like

1103
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: we finished seeing you on ray J. A your check.

1104
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: I said, you got to pay Box. We ain't paying Box.

1105
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for Boxes, wouldn't come together or keep

1106
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: the checks. They're like, well, we don't want to deal

1107
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: with him. I said, well, send me box check and

1108
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: then it took it, so they sent it to me.

1109
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: I'll never forget.

1110
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: It was the name of like Platinum West, and I

1111
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 3: got him his bag and we can't move him from there.

1112
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: But but so I'm saying boy sug though there's so

1113
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: many stories about him smacking this or doing this DRE.

1114
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: He they had a couple of stories they say that

1115
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: ship to DRE with these rappers and producers and so

1116
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1117
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: He made DRE reaching to itself and challenge yourself. Now

1118
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: let's talk about it death Row. Yes, Sug's company. Sug

1119
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: is a marketing genius. That's his strength running the company,

1120
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: the creativity of it all that that's DRE. That's that's

1121
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: all these even Snoop, you gotta get with the Snoop because, okay,

1122
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: watch this.

1123
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: Prior to Tupac.

1124
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: Going to jail, all the bs I was going on

1125
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: with Tupac in the streets with law enforcement all that.

1126
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: You ever heard Sug mention the Tupac. You know where

1127
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: him going to get Tupac out of jail come from?

1128
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Snoop, I didn't know.

1129
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: Snoop DOGG said we need to go get him, we

1130
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: need him. Everybody turned their back on him, Snoop dog Right,

1131
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: Sug listened to him. He went and did what he

1132
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: did right. This is why it hurt Snoop so much

1133
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: when Pop turnt on him the way he turnt on him.

1134
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: Because you gotta remember, while you was in jail, Snoop

1135
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: was cool with bad Boy while you was on the

1136
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: streets doing what you was doing.

1137
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: Snoop was cool with bad Boy.

1138
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: Now we all know and understand that Sugar is letting

1139
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: you run your plate. Wasn't no death Row bad Boy

1140
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: problems prid of that. But when you get out sug

1141
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: riding away back then conflict soul units.

1142
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: Right, So sug letting you run your plate?

1143
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: You think bad Boy and death Row didn't have enough

1144
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: money to get rid of one another. That's what they

1145
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: wanted to do, right.

1146
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: It felt like they were trying to on the low.

1147
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: No, they they ain't no trying to. You just think

1148
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: it's just making two three hundred two of.

1149
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: Them hitting them? Who gone?

1150
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Now let's talk about that.

1151
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: Park's original beef with bad Boy is him saying they

1152
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: set me up.

1153
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk.

1154
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: About it five times he got here.

1155
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. Dicky and Puff already at Quad.

1156
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: They don't know you coming to Quad. The only people

1157
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: know you coming to Quad is that paid you to

1158
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: come lay a verse.

1159
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: But I gotta know you coming if I just get

1160
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: win you there.

1161
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: No no hold on you ever been to Quad? When

1162
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: you're up top, you know you can look down right,

1163
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: they see him when he's walking down there. Hold on,

1164
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 3: he got fifteen steps to the patty to the entry

1165
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: to the lobby and it's another what ten.

1166
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Steps that little elevator.

1167
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 3: Do you really think Biggie and Puff that's every bit

1168
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: of ninety seconds had the resources to with the ninety

1169
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: seconds assemble the team that was gonna meet Pocket that elevator.

1170
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: No, they was waiting on him. Okay, so when you

1171
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: factor that in, they was waiting on Now, how.

1172
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Do we know that they didn't know who he was coming? Now?

1173
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: They didn't know he was coming.

1174
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: Because sometimes like you can was coming to lay up verse.

1175
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Sometimes when a big name

1176
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: is coming to like with me and Herb, what we

1177
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: finna do with her bo? Were we going that? They

1178
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: are prepared knowing that me and her boy be there

1179
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: at this time, like so it could be rumblings amongst

1180
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: the people.

1181
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: The question, So, okay, we know he coming, We didn't

1182
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 3: put the shooters outside the Robin not to kill him

1183
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: to Robin, because they come to Robbin, they're gonna kill

1184
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: you to kill him. On the sidewalk, right, we seen boom.

1185
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: Next thing we know we hear shots. Look, we hear

1186
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: the shots and we know.

1187
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: That we lined it. Are we staying in the studio

1188
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: or we coming down to the.

1189
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Scene staying in the studio. They came down.

1190
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: They came down. They heard the shots. They say, yo,

1191
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: ain't pop if.

1192
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: We playing some mental tricks though we know tricks being played.

1193
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: Man.

1194
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: You know we're talking about Biggie and and Puff right,

1195
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: Puff ain't dealing with that time.

1196
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: A purple running until you.

1197
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: Gotta be deep in had that type, you know, one

1198
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: of them, you know, go to the funeral, pay for

1199
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: the funeral, right they not on that Park looks up

1200
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: and the first people he see y'all did it not.

1201
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: What's crazy is the gunman didn't even want to sparking.

1202
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: Park sparked first, he hit hisself. He spark on the pool.

1203
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: So when he sparked, they spark.

1204
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Right. They come down, they hear the shots. Jo ain't

1205
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: come down.

1206
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: He look up.

1207
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: You set me up, bro. They brought it up.

1208
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: They trying to say that we're gonna step over and

1209
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: keep moving if we didn't send the people right. So

1210
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: that whole thing is what brought on the soul called beef.

1211
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: This is why Biggie Hole mentality was, nah, man, I

1212
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: ain't did we ain't did that? Did you really think

1213
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: if them boys had something to do with that? They

1214
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: was that bold that come to Cali and they head,

1215
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: we ain't did nothing. They ain't understand it. Sometimes it's perception.

1216
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: They don't understand that sometimes.

1217
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: So they played the played with fine, came on back

1218
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: this way.

1219
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: But then again, let's talk about it. Was Biggie a gangster?

1220
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: Was he a hustler?

1221
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: A hustler? I don't see him as a game?

1222
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Was Puffer gangster or a hustler?

1223
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: Hustler too?

1224
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so the ship we talking about his gangster the mentality,

1225
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: and they head like.

1226
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 2: What you guys talk? Yeah?

1227
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wayne did that? Yeah so but I still don't.

1228
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if we know now, was it smoking the

1229
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: ad that time with them though? Or was that the

1230
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: first interaction where he felt this though him and bad

1231
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: Boy had a problem.

1232
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: It was no problems.

1233
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: It was no problems before that, no problems, bro. And

1234
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: then Park took their juice and said, man, y'all don't

1235
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: pay for dead win.

1236
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 3: You know how many I know that started wars on

1237
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: some flonious bs. Yeah, you know, and it they went

1238
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: so far that they better not come out and tell

1239
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: the truth.

1240
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that is too many, too much collateral.

1241
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: Dam Now they want to see you cry. They want

1242
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: to see you about your mama. They want you know

1243
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They want to see about you kids,

1244
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying.

1245
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: So you know it get like that sometimes.

1246
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: This is why you can't just come tell me any

1247
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: day because I know the trickery and deceit. I learned

1248
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 3: that at a very young age too. It's tattooed on

1249
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: my arm. It just used to be my neighborhood. Then

1250
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: I put chosen few and up under this say trickery

1251
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: and deceit. So this is when I became a clique.

1252
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: Cause the everything, it's no way you gonna be able

1253
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: to understand and know what everybody owns. But you get

1254
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: your click ten fifteen of y'all. You can learn each

1255
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: other's characters and personalities, and a lot of them is

1256
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: thinking likewise like you.

1257
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: And that's what that was. But when it comes to sug.

1258
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: Let's be real, I'm gonna ask you, cause a lot

1259
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: of y'all get caught up in the in the perpetrating

1260
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: the fraud.

1261
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: What sugar in jail for right, now, what are you

1262
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: in jail for? It? Down?

1263
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: Before you answer that loon, I want you to think

1264
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: about what is sug in jail?

1265
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: He ran dude over? Right, he ran somebody over because

1266
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: I think they would telling him get out the car

1267
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: to what was it for a fade?

1268
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

1269
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think no number man.

1270
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: So he in jail because what he didn't want to what?

1271
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: So you kill your homeboy, you end up that's his homeboy.

1272
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: He ran over. They was dogs, that's his homie.

1273
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: Bone.

1274
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: You know who Bone is. You didn't wash him and

1275
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: move training day and all that's Bone, Brooklyn's fighters.

1276
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: Bone want to fade? Why Bone want to fade?

1277
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: Because you just went to his work site on straight

1278
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: out of Compton where he had a security tripping and

1279
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: Bone y'all start getting into it and the people say, Boone,

1280
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: take an early lunch because you know Bone on the clock. Bone,

1281
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: see you, you tell Bone what he won't do, and

1282
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: you acting tough because all the police is here. So

1283
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: now that's on the east side. Now you're on the

1284
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: west side, Bonet, see you he see the truck, jump

1285
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: on the truck. File your shit up, bam bam, get out.

1286
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: Let's get out, okay, if he were to put it

1287
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: in park. If he would have put it.

1288
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: In park, but was the Bone strap though.

1289
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: Bone had a walkie talkie on it, and I'm gonna

1290
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: tell you what it was. It was too many politics

1291
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: right there. You had Terry Carter right there, and you

1292
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: had another dude who house is right in back of theirs.

1293
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 3: That's a g homie at that time, right, wasn't Finn

1294
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: to be none of that. And you had a few

1295
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: other cats out there. So now, if Shug would have

1296
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: put it in part all, Bone wanted a fade, and Bonehead, I.

1297
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Can whoop you.

1298
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we had to.

1299
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: Put it in park, got out and took a fade.

1300
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 3: There's a good chance Terry Carter wouldn't.

1301
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: Have been killed.

1302
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: He killed two people.

1303
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: No, he killed Terry Carter. He ran over Bone and

1304
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: then killed and killed Terry Carter. An him over unintentionally,

1305
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: intended to do it, but it happened. But if you

1306
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: in park, you ain't gonna run nobody over took his fade,

1307
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: whether he got his ass what, whatever may happened, he

1308
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: ain't in the penitentiary till he's seventy. Terry Carter still here,

1309
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: So in essence, Sugar is in the penitentiary.

1310
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: Because he was scared to take his one on one.

1311
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: But it also feels like sug Like I say, Bro,

1312
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at him from the game

1313
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: saying he pushed the line. Now you saying the prisons

1314
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: around him was pushing the line.

1315
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: Don't get they don't give him people their credit.

1316
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was up there by hisself trying to

1317
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: push the line looking for dre are.

1318
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: The was in his neighborhood. They was in his neighborhood.

1319
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: They in his neighborhood. So when he pop up his

1320
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: homies there, security detail whatever? Now what Bone was wrong at?

1321
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: Sugar really come pushing a lot. He was told to

1322
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 3: come up there. They knew he was coming whom Yeah,

1323
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: they knew he was coming to get their business.

1324
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: They knew he was coming, right. Bone didn't know that.

1325
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: Bone feeling a way about the other shit, So he said.

1326
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: Bone didn't know.

1327
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: Bone thought he coming up there on some BSGI like this. Loan,

1328
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 3: if I know you right, and I know that's your thing,

1329
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 3: you run a security detail. I got a problem with

1330
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: that man, Right, I'm gonna say, Loan, you know I

1331
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: need to see hi. You're gonna be like, whack, Come on, bro,

1332
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: you know I'm working. I'm gonna be like you got that.

1333
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm not coming nowhere around it because then I'm disrespecting you.

1334
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.

1335
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: So if I pop up at that point in time,

1336
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: you're like, whack. You putting me in a situation. This

1337
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 3: is how I'm eating and feeding my family home.

1338
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1339
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 3: What you want to test me and challenge me in

1340
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: front of these people on me and you supposed to

1341
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: be solid.

1342
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: So Bone felt like that's what he was doing.

1343
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: They didn't communicate with Bone that he had an invite

1344
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: to come up in discuss whatever he was gonna discuss.

1345
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 2: So Bone wasn't wrong, but he wasn't right either.

1346
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: But when they got away from it, I say that

1347
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 3: to say this, you put anybody with fifty sixty thirty

1348
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: forty real wolves.

1349
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they act different. It's a different energy.

1350
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: It's different. You know what I'm saying. Our president are

1351
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 3: United States. What they may be is gonna beat they

1352
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: chest at any country.

1353
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this did if we talk

1354
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: about sug because we seem Takashi On in New York

1355
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: kind of get the respect because he had the bag.

1356
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Are you telling me that I here on the West Coast,

1357
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: the wolves respect the fact that Sugar had the bag,

1358
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: and not necessarily that he was gonna Aliand.

1359
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 2: Remember death Role was the biggest visible.

1360
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: Company when it came to how to get out the streets,

1361
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: to our streets. You get what I'm saying. So, yeah,

1362
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: they respected, right, But when you can see sometimes the

1363
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 3: wolves are like, you know what I mean, can't no

1364
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 3: sucker be it right?

1365
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: The wolves ain't really falling behind. You got to be

1366
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: a leader of the peg something. So I'm trying to.

1367
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: See it even more now, Loan, I see real rats.

1368
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:26,879
Speaker 3: Everybody know. They told wide open to pull up niggas

1369
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 3: is in these big bodies. They make it show he's straight,

1370
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: he's straight, he's straight. They got their bad wolves though. Listen,

1371
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: they got a new generation called killer rats. Yeah, I

1372
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 3: know you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, they rated, But

1373
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: these same dudes was known for doing what they did

1374
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: for decades and decades and decades. They chose to do

1375
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: what they did, but they ain't forgot how to do

1376
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: what they do. You get what I'm saying. So it's like,

1377
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: got the bag now, right, heat, the people gonna lead the.

1378
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that when we talk about but

1379
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying because it's because my vision of wolves. I'm

1380
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: talking about the wolves. I ain't talking about the people

1381
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: in the shop. I'm talking about leading them.

1382
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,919
Speaker 2: I think I can say Sugar had.

1383
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: One of the.

1384
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: Most treacherous crews when they came to this rock chislm

1385
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 3: uh uh my Bob Gotti neck bone, lip dog. When

1386
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:32,919
Speaker 3: it came to the cripping.

1387
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying both sides.

1388
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: When it comes to the cripping, he you know what

1389
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying, he had he had the wolves from over

1390
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: there essays essays, he had their wolves. It was wolves.

1391
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: So down, let's factor in Snoop Dogg. Snoop Out the

1392
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: big fave.

1393
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: Team.

1394
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 3: So if it's a Snoop Dogg video shooting death rope

1395
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: gonna be there, Snoopgall squad gonna be there.

1396
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: And then he could basically put wolves against wolves, meaning

1397
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: that I got so many little packs of wolves that

1398
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: if you cross me, you may not gotta deal with me.

1399
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: You might gotta deal with these other wolves that's on

1400
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: my payroll.

1401
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: You wasn't finna listen, You wasn't finished bro.

1402
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: Listen, he had a squad around him that was not

1403
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: to be played with little knob and he had a

1404
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: he had a squad. But this was These was decorated warriors,

1405
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,440
Speaker 3: not soldiers.

1406
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: These is warriors.

1407
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: See that's why I can't get I can't understand how

1408
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: you telling me the warriors is respecting a sucker. I

1409
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: just can't get it.

1410
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 3: I don't understand is you can lick, you can hit

1411
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: the sucker once for a bag and get rid of him.

1412
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: You can get paid a million times because this ain't

1413
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: the dope game.

1414
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1415
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 3: It sure would have been a drug dealer, and it

1416
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: was all about getting rid of him. Gets you to

1417
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: the plug. It have ben got him out of there.

1418
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: This is a record company, it's a little label. So

1419
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 3: they gotta depend on him or do whatever it is

1420
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: he doing. They don't understand what he's doing or to

1421
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: trickle down to take care of these in these lectuses

1422
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 3: and these benzes in these condos and all so on

1423
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: and so forth. I'm not gonna say sure didn't have

1424
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 3: no heart. I'm not gonna say he's a coward or punk.

1425
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say he wasn't them. He wasn't a

1426
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: Mob James. You know what I'm saying, He wasn't them,

1427
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So uh And it took

1428
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: that to give him the stigma that or oh that

1429
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 3: death Ronick.

1430
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: Because they play they pushed the line, oh no, you wasn't.

1431
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: It might be one of the most ruthless cruise in

1432
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: hip hop that hip hop ever. See I'm not sure

1433
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: you could say even that these others, like when they

1434
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: see some of these other crews in Recordabels, ain't really

1435
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: being like he yo, then we'll woos in the building. Now,

1436
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: let get up out of here.

1437
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 3: Oh no, it was a it was a problem, you

1438
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: know it was it was bro You had the likes

1439
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: of Keet the.

1440
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: Rock, Keet of Rock.

1441
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: Listen, I hear that name a lot.

1442
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: Talking about big You. Now that's big You, big homie, right,

1443
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: and it's and it's savage. Me and Keeter Rock got

1444
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: cool and a melee. We backed the back, squabbling him

1445
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: ten fifteen from the from the Snoop Dogg side of shit,

1446
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: right and when it smoked clear, he telled Reggie because

1447
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: he was working for death Row, Reggie, come when it

1448
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: smoke clear, I going to who I am? Limousine driver

1449
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 3: out you in the back, Yo, what you're doing? Because

1450
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: I know these Snake dog and all these come from

1451
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: death Row. They understand the parking lot of death Row,

1452
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: the structure.

1453
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: Of death Row.

1454
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: Not gonna lett, no goddamn limo driver drive me into something.

1455
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: Some gangster shit going on right now, right So keetter

1456
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: Rock is watching, He say reds back to back with me.

1457
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 2: He didn't do no running.

1458
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: I watched him regulate the limo, get back, block the

1459
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: streets off. We need him to come around more. So

1460
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 3: when Redgs reached for me, I said, Red listen, I'm

1461
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: a businessman. I got a lot of questions I like

1462
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 3: to ask. Y'all need me to come out time to time.

1463
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: I ain't got no problem with that, but I need

1464
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 3: some information from you too. So Reggie, my homy poor rider,

1465
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 3: is what brought me around death Row. Pool was in

1466
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 3: the pen with Sug and when he parole, he wanted

1467
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 3: to be gooon.

1468
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: That's all poo. He's a rider, right.

1469
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 3: So Reggie is the one that made the verbal introduction

1470
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 3: to Sug with me because he like, Yo, it's this

1471
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 3: dude named Whack. He got his own money, he got

1472
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 3: a business. But he's smart. But the gangster and boom

1473
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 3: boom boom. So that's how me and Sug had a director.

1474
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: But is he is that why he tried to play

1475
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: on the he with my driver, Like what made Sug

1476
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: say shit like that?

1477
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: Sugar has never called me his driver.

1478
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: I think I heard him say that.

1479
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you know he had called me a truck.

1480
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

1481
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: He had never see anybody knows, Sug.

1482
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: No, it's only one person that could drive in and

1483
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: that's the police security. He literally had a bends with

1484
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 3: the front seat out on the passager side, and he

1485
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: was sitting in the backseat.

1486
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna let none of the homies.

1487
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: You might let a female or something, he ain't let

1488
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 3: he let a homie follow him.

1489
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: But the only.

1490
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 3: Picture on the Internet of me and Sug is me

1491
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,919
Speaker 3: and the passager seat should drive it a Red Bentley,

1492
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 3: He'll say the trucker we all know.

1493
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: We know all his cold names.

1494
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: He say, PlayStation that's game, pork Bud, that's wretch, the

1495
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 3: trucker that's me, he said, like Chris Shaw, that's big

1496
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: you Like he got a cold name for everybody, right, So,

1497
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: but that wasn't no because when he asked me.

1498
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: He said, bro.

1499
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 3: When he come home, he said, I need you with

1500
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: me every day. I said, I'm doing a quote of

1501
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: me and in my trucks. I said, I tell you what,

1502
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 3: you give me a half for me in the up front,

1503
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: I give you a year. After that year's gone, right,

1504
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 3: then we could do it. Other than that, ain't no wait,

1505
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: because this Simon, this Simon shit he was doing.

1506
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: This is why when people call him Simon, I look.

1507
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: At him with Simon, what's up?

1508
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 3: Hey, go run in the stone and get liquids. Why

1509
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 3: I gotta do it? Simon said, do it? But if

1510
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: you got a death row chain on you driving a

1511
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: death row car, living in a death row house, waiting

1512
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: eating off a death row check.

1513
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1514
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 3: So my whole thing is I do business with you,

1515
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 3: But we not doing that until this day.

1516
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 2: I shook a lot of hands.

1517
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: So the value in doing that run with him was

1518
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 3: some of the people I met. But to this date,

1519
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: sugar in my pocket, I ain't never made to dying

1520
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: with him. He didn't got it out of me. I

1521
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 3: didn't bury his mama. I didn't put him in hotels.

1522
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: I didn't did all kind.

1523
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: Of you know.

1524
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 3: Sug went broke five h six, it was over with

1525
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: what broke. Now going to court, lawsuits and the lawsuits

1526
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 3: to get a black ball, you know, not being smart

1527
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: with his distribution. He kept saying he ain't got distribution,

1528
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: but yet he had Cotch that would have he would

1529
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: have been the first one independent ahead of everybody. But

1530
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 3: he wanted back in the UMG system. Why because he

1531
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: didn't have a team around him that knew how to

1532
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: do it.

1533
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: He didn't know.

1534
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 2: How to do He didn't know.

1535
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: If that man would have went and ran all this

1536
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: stuff through Cotch, he would have been ten years ahead

1537
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: of everybody. But he wanted I want back with the majors.

1538
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: Because it's easy with the majors. They do all the

1539
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: heavy lifting. You just look good.

1540
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: A person to tell you they made a hundred million

1541
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: with the majors, right, and the other dude to say

1542
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 3: he made forty million on the minors. Making forty million

1543
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 3: is doing better than a hundred million because off the rip.

1544
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 3: Fifty percent of that hundred million is gone because it's

1545
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: staying with the majors.

1546
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,919
Speaker 2: And then everything you didn't spent.

1547
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: Come out of your pencil whooping year, Everything.

1548
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: You spent come out of your fifty the minor, that's

1549
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: all him. People don't think that way is perception, right,

1550
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: People want to be.

1551
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: Seen in that light.

1552
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about keet to Rock, what was

1553
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: he at now?

1554
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,440
Speaker 3: Keeler Rock from Rolling Sixties, he's doing time in Arizona.

1555
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 3: He showed he got about a year eighteen months. Were

1556
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 3: a respectable dude, one of my comrades. See big U

1557
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 3: was probably the third Rolling sixty that I had comrade

1558
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 3: with before big U. It was a key to Rock.

1559
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 3: It was an Smac s Mac still here. He just

1560
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: moved under the radar. Very respectable dude.

1561
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: How you think they feel about you though? Who you

1562
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: and because with all the shit with big U.

1563
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: Keeter Rock just called me two months ago as Mac

1564
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: been my comrade.

1565
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: If the ain't nothing changed as deep.

1566
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 3: You gotta remember, bro, they ain't stupid, right they people

1567
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: know they homeboy. So when you look up and you're like,

1568
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: well we know that that that that that that come

1569
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: from wax positioning, Right, so they gonna call me whack?

1570
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: What happened?

1571
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: When I tell him what happened? I hate to say it.

1572
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 3: I was already warned on what would happen. I just

1573
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: was being a brother to the brother. If if I

1574
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: would have listened to what I was being told prior to,

1575
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: I would have been got out the way and just

1576
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: a lot wouldn't have happened for him. See the Big

1577
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: U that we've read about in this Rico paperwork, I

1578
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 3: never met him. I met Big U and O four

1579
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: when he come home. His thing is business. He trying

1580
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: to figure out the business. We quickly realized that he's

1581
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: a dude with influence, but his wits, his attention span,

1582
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: his patience wasn't there. So if you called Big You

1583
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: about something, ye had talked to Big You about it.

1584
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 3: I think he got something like that going on. He

1585
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 3: had called two three other people on the phone and

1586
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: you would end up discussing your business with them. You

1587
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 3: got to them through Big U. So he and the

1588
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: pot anyway, So we didn't mind that. So we just

1589
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 3: kept positioning. Right, we all doing what we're doing already, Right,

1590
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 3: Big You come after the flow was already happening, him

1591
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: saying it trips from me on when he said, yeah,

1592
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: I remember when Sugar had all his money. Bro, you

1593
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: paroting old folk sure was bankrupting O five when you

1594
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 3: paroted it.

1595
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Was already after years he did, Oh big U, Big

1596
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: you did.

1597
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: Eddie Boy did six teen seventeen, Big you did like thirteen.

1598
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: So he missed the whole death Row.

1599
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't.

1600
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: So when he came home, yes, sure he didn't have nothing.

1601
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: No, it was gone.

1602
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 3: He was wasn't around for none of that. Even corrupt, corrupt,

1603
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 3: the one kind of walking through the door. Corrupt was

1604
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 3: on his back at that time. You know, he had

1605
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: come back to death Row, remember snooping, and wasn't dealing

1606
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: with it, right, he come back to death Row, so

1607
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 3: you know he never got a chance to see what

1608
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 3: that was. He just heard about what that was. You

1609
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1610
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 1: But what I'm tripping off of if if these dudes

1611
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: is big you big homies and they still have a

1612
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: relationship with you, that says something. It speaks volumes one.

1613
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: But also I'm wondering how much of that you can

1614
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: really trust and lean on because you know they fall

1615
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: under the same thing.

1616
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 3: It's like, nah, loun, the people that I have a

1617
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: comrade ship with.

1618
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 2: Wolves, I'm a wolf. I'm a lone wolf.

1619
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Everybody I deal with from wherever they're from, are renegades, right,

1620
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: they gonna do what they want to do and their

1621
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: team they may be is gonna move how they say move.

1622
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: So when you got somebody telling you, hey, we've been

1623
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 3: rocking a long time, watching step what you mean, pay

1624
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: attention to this, this, this, this, that, every now that,

1625
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: I'll be like, hey man bull bo boom, you're like

1626
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 3: I told you watch a step. Yeah, they stayed out

1627
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: the way, but they stayed close enough to tap me

1628
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: on my shoulder. This is why when he did what

1629
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 3: he did, I handled it the way I handled it.

1630
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 3: You gotta remember it. He was sleep. He didn't know

1631
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: that them people in that office called and told me

1632
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: what he did.

1633
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that too. Because he denied that.

1634
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: He said, man, you know, people who did you listen

1635
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: to what he said? You gotta listen.

1636
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: See, he ain't too smart, so when he's trying to

1637
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 3: defend himself, he's gonna talk and say things that don't

1638
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 3: make sense.

1639
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: So for people who don't know you and big, you

1640
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: initially fell out, according to you, because he reached out

1641
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: to the people you were doing business with and tried

1642
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: to basically, I get stronghold or strong arm your relationship

1643
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: in your contract?

1644
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: What the initial and see when I read the rico paperwork.

1645
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 3: I know what I'm reading. I know who all the

1646
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 3: witnesses and victims are by what they're saying. So the

1647
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: initial started over a studio, right. It was a dude

1648
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 3: named They called him Why the Head, a big head

1649
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 3: or something. He building a studio in North Hollywood, London

1650
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: or somebody hit me and said, way looking for a

1651
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 3: studio of a game that got won over. They're gonna

1652
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 3: holler at him when I go over there. He wants

1653
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: me to vest in the overall studio business. I said, nah,

1654
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to run the studio business at the time.

1655
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: The spot is gutted, it's just framed out. I said,

1656
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I will do. I give you

1657
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty up front, but this room I

1658
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 3: won't extend it.

1659
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: And this room will be games room only.

1660
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 3: You won't be able to rent this out I give,

1661
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: I said, because he told me he needed one hundred

1662
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 3: and fifty to build it out, I give you that

1663
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 3: one fifty.

1664
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: This room is game room. I said. Now, I ain't

1665
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 2: gonna screw you because you hurting two years. We ain't

1666
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: gonna pay you nothing. After the two years.

1667
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 3: We at least we'll give you fifteen hundred two thousand

1668
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: a month or whatever. Now, why would I do that?

1669
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 3: Why I know what my goddamn recording budget is over here.

1670
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 3: If I got a recording budget over here of a

1671
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,520
Speaker 3: quarter million a year, I'm gonna give you one fifty.

1672
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: Mini games to hunted up in the next two years.

1673
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: It's it's a half a thing coming to its right.

1674
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 3: It's free, so big there's no big U in the picture.

1675
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 3: I know big U, we know each other. But he's

1676
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 3: doing what he don' doing.

1677
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing. No big Us in the picture. Studio. Go up,

1678
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: boom boom boom. I tell the dude, Hey, this room

1679
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: is exclusive the game.

1680
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Don't call me to ask if somebody could use it.

1681
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 3: It's games room. He didn't have to put no equipment

1682
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 3: frame it up. We put all games equipment in there, right,

1683
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 3: probably about nine ten months as we there, I guess

1684
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 3: he somehow meets Big U.

1685
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: I come over there, I see big U there, bro,

1686
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: What up?

1687
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: What up?

1688
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: What up? Money? This y'all been working here. We got

1689
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: a room in the back. Cool.

1690
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: Ain't no big deal. Me seeing big U and big

1691
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 3: U seeing me. That's just most strength there for one another.

1692
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: Mine's worked, but his his work for me. That's what

1693
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 3: it was.

1694
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1695
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: So one day dude called me, Hey, what up? Hey man,

1696
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 3: Big you want to know could have used the room?

1697
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 2: No? Why are you calling me with this? Can you

1698
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: call an ass game? No? I don't even ask game

1699
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,480
Speaker 2: if I can use the room. That's his room.

1700
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, he might have thought he could call you

1701
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: because you and you had some kind of relationship, but

1702
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: that still ship.

1703
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: But he did at that point.

1704
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: It's instead of him saying that room exclusive the game,

1705
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 3: Whack don't even use it. He goes back and he

1706
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: tells Big You, now you can't use a room. Wax

1707
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 3: said no. Now, let's go back to the Rico paperwork.

1708
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 3: In there, it says either witness to or victim too,

1709
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: which is the Grammy nominated producer.

1710
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: It says, Big You says, I.

1711
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Want to break whoop the woop jaw for getting me

1712
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 3: in whacking Big You don't say nothing to me.

1713
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: He calls Bali Maul.

1714
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: Right and say, yeah, this Wack denied me using the studio.

1715
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 3: I feel like that's woo woo woo whatever. Molly Maul

1716
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 3: calls me and tell me, you know, dude, a little

1717
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 3: upset about whatever just went on with the studio. I said,

1718
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: I ain't talk to Big U by the studio, but

1719
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 3: I talked to the other new So now I don't

1720
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 3: call the other I call Big you, hey, homie. For one,

1721
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 3: Why you sending somebody at me to ask me something

1722
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: you supposed to have been asking me.

1723
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: I would have just told.

1724
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 3: You you feeling some kind of way right now, because

1725
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 3: you know I told another and another I told you know,

1726
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,839
Speaker 3: because you send him at me, Big.

1727
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: You ain't, no damn fool. How else would I know

1728
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: he feeling some kind of way?

1729
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 3: He know, Molly Maul told me so in the rico

1730
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 3: when you read it, that's what we're talking about.

1731
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: So that's kind of.

1732
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 3: Where the friction started. So let's go to phase two.

1733
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Before you go there, Before you go there after that,

1734
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: was it any issue with you and him? Did y'all

1735
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: go back to kicking it? Is it?

1736
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: No? No, no, Because you gotta remember I don't kick

1737
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: it with no.

1738
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 3: Right y'all do all my comrades, we all holler on

1739
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 3: the phone. It ain't a man unless we on tour.

1740
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: Got to tell you they didn't been with Whack two

1741
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 3: three days.

1742
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: In a row. They ain't gonna happen fat.

1743
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 3: So when I tell somebody I ran with a nick

1744
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: eighteen sixteen years, that's just we was cordial. We did business.

1745
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 3: He had access to me, I had access to him.

1746
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Get what I'm saying.

1747
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: So, but you also said I've been to his house.

1748
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: I can walk it in from my house too, So

1749
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: that means that's a little bit, that's a little deeper.

1750
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 3: Because guess what it's something is that go to the

1751
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: house every day. Big You out a crew that every

1752
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: morning they was his house. The niggas look to wait

1753
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 3: in the backyard. Why I can't part of that crew.

1754
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: Right?

1755
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 3: But if Big You needed to get somewhere, he knew

1756
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 3: the cold to the gate. If I needed to get somewhere,

1757
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 3: I knew how to get to his crib. We was

1758
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: definitely cool like that. Families knew each other, kids called

1759
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: each other, definitely cool like that. Even when the beef

1760
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: was going on, it was still I saved his son.

1761
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Nigga was going to kill his son in the studio.

1762
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 3: I did what I was supposed to do to disarm

1763
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 3: the individual. Nephew, what you want to do, I want

1764
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: to whoop him. Whooped him, put his son in my

1765
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 3: car and took him home. Was going while the beef

1766
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 3: is full fledged on fire. Right, this is real. But

1767
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 3: on the flip side, it's BT weekend. My baby mom

1768
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 3: and my daughter go to the celebrity basketball game.

1769
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: It's at Chrisshaw. How people sending me pictures? What's up?

1770
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 2: I look at the pictures.

1771
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: It is my baby mama and my daughter gets who's

1772
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 3: two feet behind them?

1773
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: Big?

1774
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 2: You man?

1775
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 3: You don't think it's a problem. No, he just making

1776
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 3: sure they straight. I didn't have an inkling in my

1777
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 3: mind that right, No, but this is what it was.

1778
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 3: But so now let's go to phase two. Me and

1779
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 3: Stunners start doing business. I kick off cash when you West.

1780
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 3: He had a group called OSB on some bullshit. I

1781
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 3: really like the two youngsters. They're really cool dudes, both

1782
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 3: of them. Right, So you gotta remember man in the

1783
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 3: hearts of men. And I learned this the hard way.

1784
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've been in this. It's

1785
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 3: times to where the more you help somebody and they

1786
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 3: see you can help them, they start getting envious of

1787
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 3: what you were able to do for them and what

1788
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: they can do.

1789
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1790
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: So it's a catch twenty two. You damned if you

1791
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 3: do damned if you don't. So when I kick off

1792
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: the cash money West thing, I got the whole West coast,

1793
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: Sabby third Blue Face, Boom riding in the red rag

1794
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 3: shitty playing cryp music.

1795
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: It's mad.

1796
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 3: I want the Internet on fire because if you talking

1797
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 3: about whack playing the cryp music?

1798
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: What cryp music?

1799
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: Sabby third Blue Face, I'm also I'm marketing. I know

1800
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 3: what I'm doing.

1801
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: It's been with me right.

1802
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 3: So now if Boom Boom big U has always wanted

1803
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 3: to have a position in music as being that guy, right,

1804
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't around for corrupt. That was keetera rock in

1805
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: SMACKNM era. They did all that when that was what

1806
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 3: that was right, So now in his head he felt

1807
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: like he's supposed.

1808
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: To be the man you want a piece of.

1809
01:32:59,160 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: He won't.

1810
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 3: He want to be the one his head, I tried

1811
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 3: to do business with bird Man, How could you do it?

1812
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: And what?

1813
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: All?

1814
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Right? Look, I don't know what you tried to do

1815
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: with Stunner.

1816
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: Whatever relationship you got with Stunner, you got a relationship

1817
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 3: with QCP.

1818
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: I got a relationship with QCP.

1819
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Right, it's obviously his respect on both sides, But what

1820
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 3: he's done for you and what he's done for me

1821
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 3: is that's just what he did.

1822
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: They don't cross.

1823
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to Pete talking about, hey man,

1824
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 3: what the hell you do for whack White and vice versa. Right,

1825
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 3: So then that added to the little argument about the studio.

1826
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: But the argument amongst brothers was just that it was

1827
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 3: argument on his brothers.

1828
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm sitting back.

1829
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: So he came to you about your business with bird Man.

1830
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: What he did is he called one of the homies

1831
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 3: and said everybody else while he ain't reached down here

1832
01:33:54,760 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 3: and signed my group. Right, So now you gotta remember,

1833
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 3: I get flat. All he want to do is business

1834
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,879
Speaker 3: with the cryps. Listen, brother, I'm not a gang banger.

1835
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 3: I ain't been a gang banger for twenty five. I'm

1836
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 3: from where I'm from. I don't wake up hating a

1837
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 3: Negro because of a color.

1838
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: I've been outgrew that.

1839
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 3: So if I'm looking at the analytics and I'm looking

1840
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 3: at what's going on, and when I go say, okay,

1841
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: this person right here is the one I think I

1842
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 3: can grow.

1843
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1844
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 3: If this person is a midget, a homosexual, a transgender,

1845
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 3: a crip, a blood or whatever he may be, that's

1846
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 3: the person based upon the business I want to do

1847
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 3: business with. At the time, Blue Face and Savay Third

1848
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 3: is out running everybody. You got a little negro running around,

1849
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 3: jumping on top of his car in front of the

1850
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: high schools and saying, I'm gonna be at this high

1851
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: school next Friday. People ditching school. You got crowds of fans.

1852
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 3: He didn't built something for hisself. He just so happened

1853
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: to be a crip. I don't care. I'm not finish

1854
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 3: denied no young man a shot at something if he's

1855
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 3: deserving of it because he's from somewhere.

1856
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen with me. That ain't what I'm

1857
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: gonna do.

1858
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: What you did say. You ain't gonna with Domesicans because

1859
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: they from somewhere.

1860
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 3: That's cap because I had a Mexican group called a certain.

1861
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: That's the fact.

1862
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 3: Because on this West Coast, I'm gonna ask convig Homie.

1863
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 3: I didn't walk to a lot of prison lines. I

1864
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 3: understand that you get what I'm saying. And for me

1865
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 3: to do that puts my people in jeopardy because I

1866
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 3: know how that worked. You take a Sudanyo, turned him

1867
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 3: into a Kendrick Lamar. They gonna come talk to you,

1868
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: so Loom, you didn't took a million dollars of your

1869
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 3: money invested rolled the dice built this dude. Now the

1870
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 3: dudes pulled up in off is telling you they need

1871
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 3: to cut.

1872
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: What you're gonna tell them ain't nothing.

1873
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, bam, Now whahton, remember what you're dealing with. So

1874
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 3: now what they're gonna do out here? A Holmes ain't

1875
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 3: his uncle in Fosim. Yeah, they're gonna stab his uncle

1876
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 3: love and then had an uncle tell his sister tell

1877
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 3: him to cooperate it with them. Now, dude ain't showing

1878
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 3: up to the sessions. He ain't doing what I need

1879
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 3: him to do, because that's controlling it.

1880
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: I understand that.

1881
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: So now you didn't feel that about the crip card though, No, not.

1882
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 3: At all, because the only ones I dealt with, it's

1883
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 3: a lot of them I won't deal with. The only

1884
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 3: crips I deal with is an individual that's a wolf

1885
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 3: that's gonna make his blue face. Ain't never one time

1886
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 3: told me I got to talk to my homeboys about

1887
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 3: my business. He told me, hey, whack this my team

1888
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 3: right here. Learn who they are in case they somewhere

1889
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm not respect him like you respect me.

1890
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: I never had to go sit down with his hood.

1891
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 3: He did his business as a man, and then he

1892
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 3: introduced me to the people that supported him. When I

1893
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 3: went to a few dommus, you know what they told me,

1894
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna holler at my homies and see what they think.

1895
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: I never heard nothing back.

1896
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 3: The first two dudes I went to was r J,

1897
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 3: and he had some contractual things going on.

1898
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: I believe r J would have did the business. And

1899
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 2: a dude named.

1900
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Rouchie from Inglewood, and I went to Roucie because I

1901
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 3: did time with his daddy Tackle from NHP. Right, So

1902
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 3: when I went to Rouccie, Roochie said he had to

1903
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 3: check in with his homies. I didn't signed two other

1904
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 3: after the fact and dropped a hit and still never

1905
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 3: heard nothing from me. So I'm doing business the business.

1906
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 3: The streets don't dictate my corporate business. That ain't gonna happen,

1907
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,839
Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna bring the corporate shit to the streets.

1908
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 3: So when I do business with six', nine when somebody

1909
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 3: call me and, say, hey we got.

1910
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: To have a million for a date over here In.

1911
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Brazil right WHEN i went and did an interview with

1912
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 3: six 'y, nine my homies was with. ME i didn't

1913
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 3: take them. THOUGH i don't bring him around that because

1914
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 3: that's corporate entertainment business That i'm. Doing i'm not in

1915
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 3: the subject my, homeboys BECAUSE i know they ideology is

1916
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 3: what it. Is they with, me But i'm not in

1917
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 3: the subjectivem to that because in they, head dude is

1918
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 3: this dude's in my. Head this is a dude that

1919
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 3: got a light on. Him this is a dude that's

1920
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 3: being interviewed by everybody but, us and he's making the

1921
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 3: majority think right what he did was right because they

1922
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: don't know how to question this.

1923
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: Dude i'm the only one that.

1924
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Got six y nine to pause and think about it

1925
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 3: and admit you, RIGHT i ain't no.

1926
01:38:55,320 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Gangster you ain't you put some work in you wouldn't Down,

1927
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,440
Speaker 2: NO i was just paying, Them, okay.

1928
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah your supervisor Young.

1929
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: Right then he started to understand that and embrace it

1930
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 3: to a point where he like shit like you.

1931
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Right you know.

1932
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: What that's why even when we talk about TO i

1933
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: want to spend a little bit more time On, clubhouse

1934
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think that's, where in my, opinion some people

1935
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: would say The clubhouse took you from a maid man

1936
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: to a marked.

1937
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 3: Man, Well clubhouse is HOW i was introduced to the

1938
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: YouTube what we call a YouTube. Street REMEMBER i tell

1939
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 3: you we got different. Divisions also have a media team

1940
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 3: and whether they up or they, sleep wherever our, goal

1941
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: the profiles follow.

1942
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Me, yeah and they clip. It you basically got your

1943
01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: own clippers like these.

1944
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,959
Speaker 3: Got a media, team you, know Club house shagis CLUBHOUSE.

1945
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Tv no, ANSWER i mean the answer And Ray, Gibbs

1946
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 3: now this is the type of SHIT i. Do this

1947
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 3: is why they respect. Me people coming, In, whack we

1948
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 3: want to be part of your media. Team you can't

1949
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 3: asking me. That you got to talk to the media. Team,

1950
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: whack we want to be part of. Security talk to

1951
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 3: the people run. Security run. THAT i stay in my.

1952
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: Place.

1953
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 3: Now if something going, on it can't nobody make a

1954
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 3: decision and fix, something then myself OR r AND b

1955
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 3: all step in and make a. Decision but other than,

1956
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 3: that what they respect is that you Call whack all you.

1957
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 2: Want we had, This, yeah.

1958
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 1: And he ain't gonna. Go he's gonna make sure to

1959
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: check with. Us and that's but that's What i'm. Saying

1960
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: that's going that's your way of running that ship like

1961
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: A Real fortune five hundred. Company But i'm wondering how

1962
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: you feel about WHAT i just, said because you came

1963
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,879
Speaker 1: To clubhouse a made. Man, well you you had business

1964
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: all in the. Street you Had fray j and game

1965
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: and like you was here and it felt like to

1966
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: build that. Up you started to denegrate and separate yourself

1967
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 1: from some of the relationships took you damn now all

1968
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: your career to. Build, well which?

1969
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 2: Ones?

1970
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: UH i saw you snap on?

1971
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 3: Everybody did you snap on twenty One savage And Jim

1972
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 3: jones and?

1973
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: These you had relationships going on With.

1974
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 2: Jim, Okay i'm gonna give you How jim. Worked my.

1975
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 3: Man he come out, here he hit me whatever he,

1976
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 3: NEED i get it to. Him video shoots going, ON

1977
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 3: i pop up me And. Jim he had just did a.

1978
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 3: Verse remember he was doing uh something studio where he

1979
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 3: could remotely on what He, yeah he did that with

1980
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:56,719
Speaker 3: my Group kyote right a week.

1981
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 2: Prior Now i'm.

1982
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 3: Broke i'm On clubhouse and they keep asking me about

1983
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 3: six nine BECAUSE i did the. Interview my first time

1984
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 3: ever seeing six nine is WHEN i did the interview with.

1985
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 3: ACADEMICS i never seen. Him six nine headed my guts

1986
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: when he was doing his little blood. Run we wouldn't

1987
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 3: talk to, him we wouldn't associate with, him, Right SO i,

1988
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 3: said you know, what i'm'a break.

1989
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: It it was All New yorkers asking me these.

1990
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,759
Speaker 3: Questions i'm gonna bring him to the damn app y'all

1991
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 3: ask him. YOURSELF i don't know nothing about none of.

1992
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 3: THIS i didn't know none of them. People he went

1993
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 3: to jail with none of. Them so WHEN i bring

1994
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 3: him to the, app this little dude he must' didn't

1995
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 3: do number read paperwork all, day cause when you mentioned the,

1996
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 3: name he knew the birth socialcitty, number everything they.

1997
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 2: Did so the first time they, like, yo why you

1998
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: tell on coo to?

1999
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Bee he, LIKE i didn't Tell on cool to be

2000
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 3: cool to be told old? Me he put the link up.

2001
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 3: Boom Daniel hernandez paid me to go have shots fire

2002
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 3: To Chief, keef what's up with you And Jim? Jones he,

2003
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 3: said What jim's? What jim was the number? TWO i

2004
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 3: was the number one. Paperwork wait, no, no what he

2005
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 3: did was he put the audio up, Right i'm oblivious

2006
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: to the. Audio i'm see see watch out, Loon i'm

2007
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 3: it's on the. Internet we made show us. Everywhere so

2008
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 3: when the audio come, On i'm listening To gym talk

2009
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: to mal murder.

2010
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 2: Plot planning to execute what they gonna.

2011
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 3: Do now in this same, Audio, loom you gonna understand

2012
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 3: this was used in the federal, trial the only time

2013
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 3: the audio could be used in the federal. Trial if

2014
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 3: the people on that audio. Authenticate this ain't about no. Video,

2015
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 3: shoot this say't about no. Movie this is what it.

2016
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,799
Speaker 3: Was six' nine is telling me as he has told

2017
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 3: me about. Somebody else. Bro whack dude's. A cooperant i'm.

2018
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 3: A cooperant i know who was in line, with, Me right.

2019
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:06,560
Speaker 1: But he also had he wanted to kind Of Diminish

2020
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: jim jones's status. As, well no he Wasn't.

2021
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 2: Tripping jim Then.

2022
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Is jim homies that were.

2023
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 3: Surrounding it, but yeah but but all, of them all

2024
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 3: of this who he sent, to jail they all start

2025
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 3: cutting throat, one another trying to get each other out.

2026
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 3: The way oh this dude. Doing this don't, trust, this

2027
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 3: dude don't. Trust it they had all. Doing it he

2028
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 3: know it because they coming. To, Him right SO what? I,

2029
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 3: Did okay loom and me and you like, This RIGHT

2030
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 3: and i hear audio.

2031
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: On you what You think i'm? Gonna do?

2032
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 3: HIT me i send him, THE audio, i, say, bro

2033
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 3: dude just putting this. Audio up i'm trying to. Understand

2034
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 3: It what i'm here sounded. Like conspiracy give me. A

2035
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 3: call let's go. Over it this is the same gym.

2036
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 3: ANYTIME else, i say give me. A call he call.

2037
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 2: From not they. Forward, crickets.

2038
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah but it's also some, internet, ship, like yeah if

2039
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: you on, the internet this club house uploading some ship

2040
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: talking about this and that this is. Internet ship how

2041
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: was that?

2042
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Internet ship it's on the.

2043
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Internet if, it's really if it's, really scenario if it's.

2044
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,600
Speaker 2: You know why six nine new ware to?

2045
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 3: Find it because he was the Number one kawaii, He,

2046
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 3: said wow it was three.

2047
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 2: OF us i was, Number, one jill.

2048
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 3: He SAID if i wouldn't have got on the stand

2049
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: to get my bill to get out of that, Forty

2050
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 3: seven jimmy.

2051
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Was NOT but i wouldn't want you to hit me

2052
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: on the internet. ABOUT it.

2053
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 2: I didn't i, Text him but you already went up. With, this,

2054
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 2: no no they you just said you found out. About,

2055
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: It listen i'm.

2056
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 3: SITTING back i brought six nine on there cause the

2057
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: ship they, ASKING me i don't know nothing. About It

2058
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 3: so i'm just. Sitting back i'm. Being educated i'm in

2059
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 3: all kind. OF shit i ain't never heard. My life

2060
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 3: so when they come at him About The jim, jones

2061
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 3: shit he Like What jim Jones, ain't no this is what.

2062
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 3: He Said What mail murder was sleeping on. THE float

2063
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 3: I Took, meil murder his so called big homb me

2064
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: and put him in, the spot helped him get, a

2065
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: car put money in. His, pocket boom don't come. At

2066
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 3: me What was jim doing For? Mail murder matter, Of

2067
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Fact jim jones was. Number two they had em more

2068
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 3: conspiracy charges. Against ME but i, Tell, him yo what you're?

2069
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 3: Talking about, homi're LIKE oh i did what you?

2070
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 2: Just did you don't? Believe, Me boom he put it

2071
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,600
Speaker 2: up preuss.

2072
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Playing now so he pressing play of a recording of

2073
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: Them Using jim jones Talking To mail murder in the.

2074
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: Court, room no He Talking. Mail murder call him, and,

2075
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: say hey this.

2076
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: Was old phone tap in. The evidence what's?

2077
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 2: GOING on I Remember mail murder.

2078
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 3: Is here so to the police on, The board mail,

2079
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 3: Up here jimmy just a rapper.

2080
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 2: Down, here, yeah, hey homie this is going on.

2081
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: Show how he number two and a rapper down here

2082
01:46:58,800 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: that don't? Make sense?

2083
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 3: Was this i'm gonna tell you what it's finna. Make

2084
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 3: sense Mail. Called jim this is on the. Wire, tap hey,

2085
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 3: this whoot, the woop this this and this six 'y

2086
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 3: nine doing this with, the Whoop and i'm finna, Do.

2087
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 3: This jim you ain't finna. Do nothing you know what

2088
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 3: the fan's. Eyes, Did, okay jim with you how you

2089
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 3: want me to? Hand, it oh let me take this

2090
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: and move him up a. Few knots you just told

2091
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 3: the head nigga what he not?

2092
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Gonna do you?

2093
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 3: Do this you make shot he, do this tell him

2094
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 3: to do this and he better. Do this and, then

2095
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 3: okay but what about. The security you think they got fired. On,

2096
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: him listen, my nigga. He ain't they ain't got. No

2097
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 3: fire they can't have Fire In new york unless they

2098
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 3: off duty and, this, this this and even then they're in.

2099
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 3: The run so what you do is y'all start hitting,

2100
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 3: us security hit six. Non security this Coming from Jim To,

2101
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 3: mel murdery who they thought was a shot calling hit.

2102
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 3: The security when the, security weakened they gonna get away

2103
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 3: from because they don't walk. Their polyms and then y'all

2104
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 3: get him out.

2105
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 2: The way this is on the.

2106
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 3: Federal, wiretap, now no you ain't got. A conspiracy now

2107
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 3: we so were planning that we're getting in. The wheeze

2108
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 3: how you ain't got? A sistance but why you keep?

2109
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 3: This though how you ain't got. A CONSPIRACY but i

2110
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 3: can guarantee.

2111
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 1: You, THAT listen i can guarantee You the fast got

2112
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: you on the line with loose cannon