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Speaker 1: notes from all of you. This was really really fun

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Speaker 1: dot us. In today's episode of Listener Questions, I'm covering

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Speaker 1: how I quote unquote got fast, how I started making

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Speaker 1: money as a freelancer and what that looked like, and.

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Speaker 1: Huge thanks to all the hurdlers that submitted questions that

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Speaker 1: Grateful and again, I'd love to keep doing this stuff,

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Speaker 1: at Emila Badi at Hurdle Podcast. Last little bit of

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Speaker 3: Hey, Emily, it's Olivia. So we know the beginning of

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Speaker 3: which is awesome. But what happened in between? Like how

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Speaker 4: Hey Emily, my name's Anna and I'm from Oklahoma. I

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Speaker 4: love the podcast, love to follow you on Instagram, love

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Speaker 1: For a long time, I let those external pressures get

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Speaker 1: and I love you, mom, if you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: of my next move. And so instead of sitting there

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Speaker 1: I biked and got coffee at my favorite coffee shop.

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Speaker 1: None of that bothered my toe. Everything was okay, and

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Speaker 1: I felt better for doing both of those activities, even

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Speaker 1: if neither of them was my go to. Again, I

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Speaker 1: know that being on the injured list sucks. It sucks hard,

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Speaker 1: but there are things that you can do at any

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Speaker 1: given time, although it might not be how you wish

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Speaker 1: things would be, to get through it and be better

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Speaker 1: for it. If you are listening to this and that

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Speaker 1: really resonated with you, I definitely encourage you to check

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Speaker 1: out one of the Handling Hurdle Moments Hurdle sessions.

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Speaker 2: I'm hosting one in October seventh.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge part of what we talk about in

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Speaker 1: there is learning how to show up to challenge and

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Speaker 1: emerge on the other side and more positive person. This

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Speaker 1: was really fun. Thank you all so much again for

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Speaker 1: just being a part of my community. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: in ways that I cannot always articulate, and I just

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Speaker 1: feel really grateful at Emily Body at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch y'all next time.