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Speaker 1: The coaching carousel in the PAC twelve is in full steam.

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Speaker 1: this is the PAC twelve Apostles. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening to the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. The podcast Bipack

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Speaker 1: we left a little easter egg and those who those

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Speaker 1: see what you do with it. Um. But Ralph, okay,

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Speaker 1: So anybody that doesn't know, UM, Ralph took a trip.

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Speaker 1: it just matters more territory. So what was so you

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Speaker 1: I got to see uh an a CEC school, uh

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Speaker 1: His families from Tuscaloosa, like you know, grandparents or from

429
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Speaker 1: from Tuscaloosa. The reason why he could stay in Alabama

430
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: fans because his games are always available. He doesn't have

431
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: a problem watching Alabama if it were the other way around,

432
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: if he were a die hard you know, Arizona fan,

433
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: grew up in uh Tucsons, went to all the games, everything,

434
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: and then he goes then he moved to Tuscaloosa. How

435
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: can he still be a die hard Arizona fan. He can't.

436
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: That's the issue. That's the issue. Um in the back

437
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: twelve though, there have been a number of coaching changes

438
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: that have gone on, and one of them has just whoa,

439
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: there's been a will changes and there might actually be

440
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: another one. I'm hearing some some chatter because the University

441
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of Washington has they lost their defensive coordinator Pete Kiwa

442
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Kiwatowski Kiowski. Uh. They lost him to go down to

443
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Texas with with seven wins sark, which probably made them

444
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more upset too, because they're like, hold up,

445
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: we lost our coach to go to our old coach

446
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: who left us for usc Yeah. He yes, increased to

447
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: do the same job. Yeah. And Washington had been priding

448
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: them themselves because they were talking trash to Oregon people

449
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: like ha, you guys, uh, you guys keep having all

450
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: this coordinator turnover. Avalos leaves take a head coaching job,

451
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: so does Arroyo leave take a head coaching job at

452
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: at U and l v oh so much coaching turms

453
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: that that doesn't happen at University of Washington, And then

454
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: University of Washington loses their defensive coordinator. So then they're like,

455
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: we have to get a big name to replace him.

456
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: Like every single fan base, They're like, we want a

457
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: big name to replace we need a proven guy. So, uh, Oregon,

458
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: who lost their defensive coordinator, uh Avalos to go be

459
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: the boys the state coach. Then he's replaced by actually,

460
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: let's stay on Washington first. So so Washington lose their

461
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: defensive coordinat they I don't know if they can't find

462
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: one or what, but they end up replacing him with

463
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: this guy named Bob Gregory. How does George Rice to

464
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: know Bob Gregory? Bob Gregory was on a coaching staff

465
00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: with George Rice stir And it's amazing that I remember that, right, Yeah,

466
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben, we've established that your memory is not

467
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: as it's not as sharp as your grasp of current events. Okay,

468
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: so he was our dB coach at the University of

469
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: Oregon while I was there for two years. How about that?

470
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: So that's how I know him and ironically this this

471
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: dude is just a flip flopper. So he went to

472
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the University of Washington, I'm no, I'm sorry, went to Washington.

473
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: He played at Washington State. He's from Spokane. Coach at

474
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: the University of Washington multiple years, then went to Kobe

475
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: a g A at Oregon, then went to with lamb

476
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: at College which is in Oregon, Oregon dB coach Boise

477
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: State as a d C, cal as a d C,

478
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: then goes back to Boise State and then ends up

479
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: at Washington. This dude. So so when Washington and Oregon

480
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: fans are like, yeah, our coaches, no, Bob Gregory is

481
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't know who he belongs So he belongs to

482
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: the streets, he belongs to everybody. He's everybody's coach. I

483
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: want to where his loyalties really lie, though, Yeah, I mean,

484
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't know this. This really feels like it happened

485
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: because of a I don't know. The vibe from Washington

486
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: fans is very much that this was an issue of

487
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: laziness on the part of Jimmy Lake. Let me read.

488
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Let me read to you some of the reaction from

489
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the University of Washington announcing Bob Gregory as the defensive

490
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: coordinator on Twitter. Now, Twitter is what the third most

491
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: toxic platform for replies because number one is message boards

492
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: because people are comfortable there and it's behind somewhat of

493
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: a wall and you're allowed to really express how you feel. Um.

494
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: Number to his Facebook, Like that's as far as the

495
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: social media goes, Like, that's where people really really go

496
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: off the rails. And Twitter you only have like characters.

497
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: You really got to get your feelings out quickly. Um.

498
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: And the this is a defensive coordinator higher of somebody

499
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: who was already on the staff. So this isn't like

500
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the jet fish higher down at University of Arizona which

501
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: was roundly um mocked. And it's definitely not like the

502
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards higher which was roundly mocked by by fans

503
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: at the time. This is somebody who was already on

504
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: your very successful uh staff. So University of Washington tweets

505
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: out that they named Bob Gregory is the new defensive

506
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Dogs. The first reply is, I'm canceling

507
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: my tickets on my forty season. I'm dropping all donations.

508
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: This program does not want to win. I am done.

509
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: The next comment is Jen Cohen. This fan is not

510
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: an anomaly. Coach Lake has done nothing to promote the program.

511
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: His actions are not consistent with what it takes to

512
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: run a high level Power five program. If Jimmy wants

513
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: to run the team like this, he can go coach

514
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: at Wake Forest, not University of Washington. Another University of

515
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Washington fan chips in and says, this is effing terrible.

516
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: Nice job, Jimmy Lake. Uh. Another fan says just embarrassing.

517
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: University of Washington doesn't care about winning, and coach Jimmy

518
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Lake is in over his head. They just go on

519
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: like that for a very long time, Sandwiched in between um,

520
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: people who are saying, who are who are Oregon fans

521
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: who are kind of trolling them? Um, but this was

522
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: another interesting one. This is a Ty Willingham higher. And

523
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: then another couple of people said fire Jen Cohen, who

524
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: is widely believed to be one of Yes, she's the

525
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: best thing they got going up there. Uh yeah. And

526
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: then so there's another person that said this is a

527
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: discus race. These are all like known Washington football twitter accounts. Um,

528
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: let's see here, we got a we got a few

529
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: quote tweets. Um, and they all seem to be okay.

530
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: So Washington Football Marketing is a fan account. It says

531
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: this is so bad. All I can do is enjoy

532
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: the ducks trolling us. I'll let them have their laugh now.

533
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: But who's gonna be laughing when he's fired and replaced

534
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: with Nick Holt bad example. I guess it will be them,

535
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: but maybe the higher after that? Um it's yeah, it's

536
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: it's rough man, And I guess I guess for those

537
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: in the know, they feel like he is the lowest

538
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: level recruiter at the entire school. Um. And he was

539
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: actually asked I think Jimmy Lake was actually asked about that,

540
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: and he's and Jimmy Lake responded by saying, like, hey,

541
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: we have plenty of depth linebacker. But like the thought

542
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: is that it was Lake that was really doing the

543
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: um the recruiting for the defense that they got. So

544
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: um yeah, man, it seems to be universally panned. The

545
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: only people that I see that are pushing back on

546
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: this not being a good hire are the people who

547
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: want more reasons why it's a bad higher Like they

548
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: they said, Hey, I'm not in the know, please fill

549
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: me in on what is going on here? So that's

550
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: a rough h that's a rough one. Can we let's

551
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: move on to Oregon States Oregon University of Oregon's decision

552
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: um to announce their defensive coordinator, Tim to read it. Yep, yep, Tim,

553
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: you knew, Yes, Yeah, I knew this was coming in.

554
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: This was the guy wanted the whole time. The funniest

555
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: part was when you go on a lot of these

556
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: fans sites and there their hires, like the people that

557
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: they put on their you know, their short list of

558
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: candidates or their list of candidates. It's always hilarious to

559
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: me because and the one that I saw for Oregon

560
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: was hilarious for their defensive coordinator. Mind you, they got

561
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: the dude who I wanted, right. But one of the

562
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: people who came up as far as because they're still

563
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: missing a dB coach um was Gerald Alexander, who used

564
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: to be at Cal but it's now with the Miami Dolphins,

565
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: and his name keeps coming up, and I was like,

566
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: it's not happening. I was. I told the people who

567
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: wrote it. I was like, he's not coming, don't even

568
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: put it, put his name out there. It's not happening.

569
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: And they're like, are you sure? I was like, I'm

570
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: one positives. He's not going back to college unless things

571
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: for some reason don't work out in the NFL, or

572
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: somebody offers him a like if if he got an

573
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to take like U C, l A or USC,

574
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: they were gonna just break up, back up the Brinks truck,

575
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: and he hadn't got a and he was in an

576
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy situation, he would probably take it. But

577
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: besides that, he ain't coming. He's like, you know, the

578
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving.

579
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: That's the way. He isn't an NFL right now. Yeah,

580
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I saw that somebody. I saw that somebody else had

581
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: tweeted like, yeah, hey guys, he's not coming back to college.

582
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: And he had a really good year, so he's got

583
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of juice behind his name. Um with the

584
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins defense, and it really helped turn around

585
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: what was the worst secondary UM probably seasons in all

586
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: of college football and uh and they worked really hard

587
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: to turn things around at Cal and and he was

588
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: UM and de Ruter was out there with him. He

589
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: was there from seventeen to UM and Yeah, I mean

590
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Cal's defense just improved year over year, and he actually

591
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: did a decent job as head coach of Fresno State.

592
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: I know somebody who went out to play for his

593
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: predecessor and then got there and had one meeting with

594
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: de Ruyter and was like, this isn't for me, and

595
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: immediately UM transferred. And that was somebody who wasn't really

596
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: like a serious person. They got kicked out of three

597
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: other colleges before UM it was all said and done.

598
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: But he seems to be a pretty serious, no nonsense guy,

599
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: and I think he'll fit in well with Oregon staff

600
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: that they have in place right now. But he is

601
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: walking into a real pressure cooker of a situation because

602
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: the thought about Mario crystal Ball is, if you're really

603
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: gonna be in a CEO figurehead position where you're the

604
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: face of the team and the head of recruiting, your

605
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: coordinators have a lot of responsibility to make sure that

606
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: you are competitive, um all of the time, because even

607
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: if they screw up, it's your head on the job

608
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: and block and so UM. I think that there's probably

609
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: some mixed feelings about crystal Ball's ability as a coach

610
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: and game manager right now. Definitely not as a recruiter,

611
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: but Um, this is an important I think this is

612
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: a really important higher uh for because and anybody who

613
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: doesn't know. So we talked about it. We talked about

614
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: this during the football season, about what was going on

615
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: with Cow's defense because it wasn't quite as good as

616
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: it was. The thing that changed was, I mean at

617
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: a tide from losing some players to the NFL, including

618
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: the leading tackler in the back twelve, was that Tim

619
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: de Ruter had been the offensive coordinator and play caller

620
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: all that. Justin Wilcox then promotes Peter Sermon to co

621
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and play caller. So Tim de Ruter got

622
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: a demotion for doing a really good job and with

623
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: coaches that don't sit well, that doesn't sit well at all.

624
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: So what so that was kind of the impetus for

625
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Tim de Reuter leaving Cow to go to Oregon. And yeah,

626
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: and so like, I'm not sure if there's a better

627
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the Pac twelve. So I expect Oregon,

628
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: whose defense dramatically improved under Avelos after Jim Jim Levitt

629
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: built it up a little bit, I expect this to be,

630
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: especially talent wise, to be one of the more dominant

631
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: defense is not just in the Pac twelve, but in

632
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: the country. And then you had Keith Heyward leave Oregon

633
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: and being there defensive back coach, and he's a hell

634
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of a recruiter. He left to go to cow and

635
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: the reason why he left Oregon so he's taking I

636
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: think he's taking a pay cut to go to Cow. Uh.

637
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be co d C and outside

638
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. So here is the thing. So he's upset

639
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: because us, and granted, I'd be a little bit upset

640
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: to because here's what I've heard that the defensive coordinator

641
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: position was either promised to him. This is before avelose came.

642
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: This is when Jim Levitt left, was either promised to

643
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: him or that he would be like the prime candidate,

644
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: and that didn't happen. They hired Avalos from Boise State,

645
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: and then and then when Avalos left to take the

646
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Boys head Boys head coaching job, he then believed was like, Yo,

647
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: here's here's here's my shot. And mind you, he's been

648
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: a little disgruntled kind of the whole time. I'm granted

649
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: I would be too, because you're a good coach, hell

650
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: of a recruiter and you feel like you're getting passed up.

651
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: You're making great money, like he's one of the higher

652
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: paid UM assistant coaches. Impact, well, that's not a coordinator,

653
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: and then you get passed up again. Yeah, you can

654
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: see that it's not happening where you where you are,

655
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta make him make a move. Okay, yeah,

656
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean do what you gotta do, right, I get it. Um,

657
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of these other moves that I

658
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: found interesting. So Jimmy Doherty, who was once the wide

659
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: receivers coach at Oregon and has been the wide receivers

660
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: coach at u c l A. UM, he took the

661
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach job at University of Arizona, leaving and

662
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: opening at u c l A, and they promoted Jerry

663
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: new Heisl, son of former u c l A and

664
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: Colorado Washington coach Ricknewisl. What do you think about that one?

665
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: It's funny because he is a guy who's been working

666
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: on u c l A staff for a while. He

667
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: had been working with the quarterbacks. And it's funny because

668
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you can't outrun your name sometimes because what I think

669
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: about him kind of involves his dad. But then not

670
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: because he looks like a surfer boy who blonde hair,

671
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: blue eyes. I believe too, he just doesn't look like

672
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: a football coach. But apparently he knows what he's doing.

673
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: So I'm not the person to speak objectively because and

674
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: then truthfully, I haven't specifically asked about him too much,

675
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: but I mean he seems competent, so I don't have

676
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: it a negative thing or a positive thing to say

677
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: about him either way so far. Yeah, and and so

678
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: I mean he worked under he worked under Norma zone

679
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: out at Texas A and m Um, he's worked for

680
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: for Kevin someone, and he's you know, he has he

681
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: actually played at u c l A. Um Brett Hunley

682
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: got hurt and he let a comeback win over Texas,

683
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: So you know, I think he's really well liked, and

684
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I think they're all rooting for him, and um, and

685
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: you like to see stuff like that that not you

686
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: know that Rick new Heizel's relationship with U c l

687
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: A isn't damaged to the point where his son can't

688
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: on his own merits work his way up the ladder,

689
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: which is kind of nice. Um, here's another one I

690
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on because the war for

691
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: Southern California seems to be the The guns that seem

692
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: to be uh being filled with the most ammunition are

693
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: the coaching staffs UM at Arizona State and the coaching

694
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: staffs at USC. And there continues to be this this

695
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: staffing up for what will I think in this upcoming

696
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: recruiting class two class will be the fiercest battle over

697
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Southern California UM in the history of these two schools.

698
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Now USC has the advantage of just being USC and

699
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: being in the area. But Chris Claiborne, who is really

700
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: really well known as a high school coach and as

701
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: a former USC player, got plucked by Arizona State. Princess

702
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: gil who had been a graduate assistant at USC before

703
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: going to Oregon before becoming the wide receiver's coach at

704
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: a s U, apparently was flirting with the idea of

705
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: going over to USC, and he decides to stay at

706
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: a s U. He's got a lot of Southern California

707
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: connections UM Antonio Pierce. They've kind of pushed Marvin Lewis

708
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: to the side because he keeps interviewing for these NFL jobs.

709
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: He's going to remain a special advisor to the program.

710
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: But now Antonio Pierce is fully the defensive coordinator. He's

711
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: a former Southern California UM High school coach and and

712
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: you know resident and that's where he's from. And in

713
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: usc has reached deep into the bag to pull a

714
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: couple of the University of California is more talented staff

715
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: members when it comes to recruiting. They brought both the

716
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: film guy and Marshall Charrington, the director of recruiting, down

717
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to usc UM and their specialty has kind of been

718
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: so cow And so what do you think of these two?

719
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh and I guess you know we we probably mentioned

720
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: it before, but usc his named Dante Williams associate head coach.

721
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: So what do you think of this whole proxy battle

722
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: of these two gearing up to to go head to

723
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: head in so cowt And do you think a SU

724
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: can gain any ground at all? Can they gain ground? Yes?

725
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Because Clay Helton is the head coach. And if they

726
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: don't win this year, if they go you know, eight

727
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: and four and then play a bowl game, win or lose,

728
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be like they're not They're still not gonna

729
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: fire him, but they will like it. It will hurt

730
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: recruiting some because there's only so many times that you

731
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: can say, hey, hey, come come here, kid, come here,

732
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: we got you, we got you. But then Arizona State

733
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: has to, like they have to stop talking about it too,

734
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, because this is this could be your last

735
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: season and of Jayden Daniels at quarterback, so your opportunity

736
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: could have been missed because now you've got to find

737
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: another super cat at quarterback or a super super devil

738
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: at quarterback like you. So Arizona State has to For

739
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Arizona State to gain ground, they needed to beat USC,

740
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: which they had the opportunity to do this season and

741
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: they didn't. They need to beat USC next season. Like

742
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: I know, that's living in revisionist history, but those are

743
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: the things that need to take advantage. And that's kind

744
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: of what's been going on on the recruiting front too.

745
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: So So I got some Ralph Amsden level information today

746
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: for you, Ralph. So So, of the SO nine, there

747
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: were nineteen prospects from California in the top seven in

748
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: the in their top two four seven right, Uh, it's

749
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: that was the lowest number in the last five years.

750
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: And my mind, you in twenty in twenty nineteen there

751
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: were thirty plus. Okay, and um, but part of that,

752
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: they believe is because California didn't play high school football

753
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: and so man, these kids didn't get rated properly and

754
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Right, Okay, So this year, out of

755
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: those out of the top prospects from the state of California,

756
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: guess who signed the most. I'm you brought it up?

757
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: So assuming Oregon? No, no, no, no no, no no. That

758
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: was that was last year and the year before and

759
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: all that. No, but this this year was USC. Okay,

760
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: USC only got one last year, which is unbelievable. This

761
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: year they got eight. Second was Oregon with four, Utah,

762
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Michigan and cal both got two of the top twenty prospects.

763
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Clemson, Georgia, Arizona State, Texas and U C.

764
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: L A all got one, all got one. And that

765
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: would be fine If Arizona, that wouldn't be Sorry, Arizona State,

766
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a big deal for them if they

767
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: were recruiting their own state. Well, but they're not recruiting

768
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: their own state. Well, if they were getting all the

769
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: top kids in Arizona, that it wouldn't be an issue.

770
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Not getting California. Remember, they put it on a big push. Oh,

771
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna take Callie all this stuff all the and

772
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: you get one prospect that ain't the movie I mean,

773
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: and then you look at that versus the top twenty

774
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: five prospects in Florida. Right, where do you think the

775
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: top twenty five prospects in Florida? What college do you

776
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: think that they committed to and have signed to so

777
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: so far? I feel like there's been a Miami resurgence.

778
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: I feel like they'd be elite. The the answer is

779
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: Alabama with six, Miami with four. My Miami would be

780
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: higher if you counted other transfer portals. Um UH three

781
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: went to University of Florida, three to Clemson, to to Maryland,

782
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: to to Georgia, one in Michigan, Oklahoma, USC and U

783
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: C l A. And then there's Terry Aron Arnold who's

784
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: uncommitted as well, and then there's Georgia. Georgia. Of their

785
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: top twenty five prospects, eight went to eight went to

786
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: Georgia for the Clemson three to Florida to to Notre

787
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: Dame and then Alabama, Ohio State, Miami, l S, U, Tennessee,

788
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: Indiana and NC State have one. And then Texas. Texas

789
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: is very similar to what's happened in California. Of their

790
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: top twenty five prospects, Texas and M six, Alabama, five, Oklahoma,

791
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: four two went to Texas and l s U. So there,

792
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Texas is not recruiting it state very well. Ohio State, Kansas,

793
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: s m U, Mississippi State, and cow All got one.

794
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: And the reason why those four states will the reason

795
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: why those states are so important is because out of

796
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: the like twenty five hundred or whatever UM prospects that

797
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: they rate that they've rated, forty of them come from

798
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: those states. Of them come from Texas, Florida, Georgia in California,

799
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: those four states make up fort of the top two

800
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: four seven. So so yeah. So to make a long

801
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: story short, can Arizona State gain some ground? Uh if

802
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: they can recruit better in California? So yeah, yeah, And

803
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean that that seems to be the goal. Because

804
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: you have a former USC player in Chris Clayborne as

805
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: your linebackers coach, you have a former USC player UM

806
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: in Chris Hawkins as your defensive backs coach. You've got

807
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: a Southern California native in Antonio Pierce as your defensive coordinator,

808
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: and um, you know herm Edwards is a is a

809
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: California guy as well. And then Prentice gil spent three

810
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: years at USC before going to Oregon ended up in

811
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: a s U, So that seems to be where their

812
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: focus is. If it doesn't if the class isn't uh

813
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: you know those fifty fifty battles where a lot of

814
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: USC kids use a s U as a as a

815
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: backup plan or a fallback school, which is how some

816
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: of a s u's best recruits have ended up UM

817
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: at a s U in the first place, whether it's

818
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, to Shawn Smallwood who was a four year

819
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: starter UM at defensive tackle, or or even Vontz Perfect

820
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: and guys like that. Um, you know, unless they're not

821
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: just getting guys because space filled up at USC, unless

822
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: they're actually winning these head to head battles, it would

823
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: seem that the hires and the fortification that you're trying

824
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: to do to your staff aren't working. Like they're going

825
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: for broke. I feel like, and I think that the

826
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: fans should look at it that way as well. UM.

827
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: Another addition, a staff addition UM that is sort of

828
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: off the UM out a left field is UM I

829
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: would Jed Fish has done absolutely everything right since being

830
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: hired at University of Arizona. He has brought in a

831
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: ton of people who have University of Arizona ties to

832
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: make up for the fact that he doesn't really have that.

833
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: They're kind of trying to bring the University of Arizona

834
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: pride back, and in doing so, they've offered a consultant

835
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: role to Teddy Bruski, who's going to continue to be

836
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: an employee of ESPN. But Teddy Bruski is now technically

837
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: on staff at University of Arizona. What do you think

838
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: of that? I think that, Okay, so you do have

839
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: to try to get a little bit of juice right

840
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to build some momentum, and Arizona is looking at what

841
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: Arizona State has done. I mean, I still don't think

842
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: we've seen the true results of what Herm and these

843
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: guys have built at Arizona State yet or like or

844
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: it's just been a negligible increase, like I'm not sure.

845
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that some of these things take years and

846
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: years to actual seed, that the seed time harvest of

847
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: it is longer, but I'm not sure that it's such

848
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: a groundbreaking difference in what they're doing. Yeah, well I

849
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: would I would say that, Um, you had next to

850
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: no fans even if they were allowed to go to

851
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: the games. And so I think it's necessary for Universe

852
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: steve Arizona to really tap into whatever pride people have

853
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: left and wake that up. And so I think that

854
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: it's probably a good move. Um. The one thing that

855
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: they've said since they got um in position with this

856
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: staff is that they are actually going to take Arizona seriously,

857
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: like Arizona High School recruiting and so that, you know,

858
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: as they should, because it's like a free it's free Mondey.

859
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: We we beat this to death all the time, and

860
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to continue to really get into it,

861
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: but I will say that I talked to a lot

862
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: of high school coaches down here in Arizona who felt

863
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: heard for the first time because they had got to

864
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: have a couple of conversations with assistants and head coaches.

865
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: But what what head coaches and assistance get sick of

866
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: is those relationships need nurtured. You can't just show your

867
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: face once and have them be excited because you're a

868
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: college football coach, Like they don't look at you as

869
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: a college football coach They don't look at you as

870
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: a celebrity. They look at you as a peer. And

871
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: if you take them for granted or you ignore them,

872
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: then they will UM football coaches are really good at

873
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: complaining if you're see one on a sideline and a

874
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: call doesn't go their way. UM, that's exactly how they

875
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: act when you're pissing them off as a college football

876
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: coach and jerking them around as somebody who could have

877
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: the potential to recruit their kids, they will talk shit

878
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: about you. Two people like me, So like I'll know,

879
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: I'll know. I knew immediately that after five months of

880
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin being at University of Arizona that they that

881
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: they weren't taken any of that seriously, right. I knew

882
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: UM within a couple of months of Herm Edward's staff

883
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: being at Arizona State that Arizona wasn't going to be

884
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: the priority, that they had a completely different set of priorities. Like,

885
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: so you'll know, UM. And as as it stands right now,

886
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of really positive feedback from coaches

887
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: about their initial contact with UM University of Arizona. But

888
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: it's just it. It takes constant nurturing everyone gets sick

889
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: of the amount of effort takes to be able to

890
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: stake acclaim um in your home state. Uh. And it's

891
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: really tough to do when you have consistent staff turnover.

892
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: But when you staff your your your school with mostly alumni,

893
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: then that should take away some of the threat of

894
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: you know, the them not being there year to year.

895
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: So long as the performances is worthy of of keeping

896
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: them around. Then again, um, there's this completely opposite mindset

897
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: if you just go and get the best players regardless

898
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: of where they're at, and that these complaints from locals

899
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: mean absolutely nothing. And I don't believe that, but I

900
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: understand the people that do carry that perspective. Obviously, University

901
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: of Arizona doesn't cary that perspective, otherwise they wouldn't have

902
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: gone out of their way to have a bunch of

903
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: people who used to play football at University of Arizona

904
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: be affiliated with their staff. Yeah. Yeah, Arizona has a shot.

905
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: They do have a shot. Um, we can move on

906
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: to to the Path twelve commissioner. Uh. We on the

907
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: last episode, Hey, hey the witch is dead. Um. Uh,

908
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Larry Scott is gone. He is going to be ridded

909
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: of our of our hair. I am scared that there

910
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: may be a coup attempt, that he will try to

911
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: find some way to retain power. He may try to

912
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: storm uh the him and the other six figure people.

913
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: They may try to storm the Pack twelve headquarters and

914
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: and take control back. But aside from that, he's gonna

915
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: be gone. And the question was, so he's supposed to

916
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: leave in June, right, Uh, he is supposed to leave

917
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: at the end of June. Okay, So and so people

918
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: were thinking, okay, that the next commissioner will start. Then

919
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: well we find out otherwise that the Pack twelve instead

920
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: of waiting for his tenure to be up, they're like, no,

921
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna find him or his replacement in the spring

922
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: and get them in there, which I think is the

923
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: optimal plan, because what what's the point in leaving Larry

924
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Scotty and to to to leave him in to do

925
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: more great things as commissioner or do you get him

926
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: out as quickly as possible. I think that the pact well,

927
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: uh C e O S made a good move with this. Yes, um,

928
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, as somebody who just had to have UH

929
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: seven molders removed on the same day due to several

930
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: years of of of neglecting a problem. I would say

931
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: that the longer you leave him in, the more damage

932
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna do. So so you're speaking from experience, Oh, absolutely, absolutely,

933
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: and I mean it is. It would be nice if

934
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: he was in there on like a don't touch anything deal,

935
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, like just don't don't do anything, like those

936
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: rubber rooms that the when New York teachers would be

937
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: awaiting disciplinary hearings, and they would just put him in

938
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: these rooms where they would sit for eight hours, eat

939
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: their lunch, like scribble on a sketchpad. Um. That would

940
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: be a really great situation for Larry Scott if if

941
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: he was in a situation where, uh, they just put

942
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: him in an office with maybe a computer that doesn't

943
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: connect to the internet and uh he is able to

944
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: uh and maybe just unplug his phone and um let

945
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: him ride this six months out exactly. Dude. He needs

946
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: to be trying to get in the facility like Jamal

947
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: Adams in those videos and in the med that they

948
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: put up where he's trying to get into the Jets

949
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: facility and he's putting in his code and his locked.

950
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: That's the way he needs to just show up one day,

951
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: but you can't tell him because he'll he'll try to

952
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: smuggle documents out or something. No, you just gotta just

953
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: cut it off, bro, you gotta cut it off. Um,

954
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: there is more great news, Ralph. I am so excited

955
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: I am going to be back well, but at the

956
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: same time, I'm not excited because I know what this

957
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: means on a on a different level. I'm excited that

958
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 1: the n C Double A video game is coming back

959
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: because that was literally my favorite video game of all time.

960
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: I used to run the option. I used to Oh

961
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: my god, dude, it's just incredible. It's better than Madden,

962
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: and Madden's fantastic, but it's better and I love oh god,

963
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: I love it. But it's gonna it's also gonna make

964
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: me miss my friend t K who got who Got

965
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: killed in because that's that was our game, Like that

966
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: was our like that was me and him. I played

967
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: more games of that with him than probably any other

968
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: person on the earth, and I played a lot of people.

969
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: But I am going to be happy that it's coming back.

970
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like they the statement

971
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: that they put out about it coming back, saying that

972
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: oh h that they're going to go through the licensing

973
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: with the College Licensing Commission or whatever it's called to

974
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: make sure that they have all hundred and thirty teams,

975
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: the logos, all of that stuff. So they're gonna pay

976
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: for those. But as far as the athletes, oh no, no, no,

977
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: we're not gonna pay them. We're going to just use

978
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: different names and looks and all of this stuff. I

979
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: was like, get out of here. That sounds like a

980
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: rest feed for a disaster, especially with name, image and

981
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: likeness coming. Yeah, I, um, I definitely got way more

982
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: excited than I needed to be. I feel like, after

983
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: after reading through, um that this is actually going to

984
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: take a lot of time to make sure they get

985
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: it right. And then I had to temper my excitement

986
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm gonna go out and buy

987
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: it today and uh and it's you know, it might

988
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: not even be around for the season, and so that's, uh,

989
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. But they the idea that they would try

990
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: to find a way to get it right. My initial

991
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: read through, I'm not gonna lie. My initial read through

992
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, money is going to go

993
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: to the team's and not the players. Like, as much

994
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: as I love this game. I still have a p

995
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: S three, I still have n C double. I will

996
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: continue to play that and do the online roster updates.

997
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Over the players not getting compensated, um, But it sounds

998
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: like by waiting, if the n C double A quits

999
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: trying to punt on all this, um, then then they

1000
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: might be able to work something out that makes more sense. Yeah.

1001
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: And I hate it, dude, I hate it. And the

1002
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: reason why I do hate it is because the ID

1003
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: and and and Granted I'm reading a lot into this,

1004
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: because I do think that the saying not commenting on

1005
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: paying the players and all that stuff is the right

1006
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: thing to do at this point in time, with so

1007
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: little resolution about name, image and likeness, how senate, it's

1008
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna get involved all of that. So I think it's

1009
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: the right move for them not to comment on it.

1010
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: But if the players aren't paid, I am going to

1011
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: be grandstanding for the game to be pulled. So I'm

1012
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna be advocating against what I really want because the players,

1013
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: they deserve the money. And then and if they turn

1014
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: around and say, well it's not the same players, look

1015
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: at him, Uh, look look at the running back from

1016
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: from from Iowa State that's not the that's a white

1017
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: guy now like yeah, but his speed, his trucking ability,

1018
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: all his gared through town, yeah, are the same as

1019
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: the running back there. Now. Yeah, No, that's not gonna

1020
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: work for me, buddy, You saying that changing him from

1021
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: whatever number is, like number thirty one to a thirteen,

1022
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work for me. No. No, pay them

1023
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: their money, just like the when you're making money off

1024
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: of people, you should pay them. So so there's that. Hey,

1025
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: So I got a question. I know we didn't talk

1026
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: about it in the open, but I did want to

1027
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: get your take on this. Um, we got a few

1028
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: Pack twelve players that are on the active roster going

1029
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: into this weekend Super Bowl, and um, one of the

1030
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: teams is very very very low on Pack twelve talent.

1031
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: I'll see if you can guess which which one has

1032
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: a serious absence of of Pack twelve players out of

1033
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Kansas City. UM. I know there aren't

1034
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: a lot of Pack twelve players in this game, period,

1035
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: but uh, just just because of the teams that made it,

1036
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: but I would say I'm literally guessing right now, I'm

1037
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: gonna say Kansas City just just because I mean, I

1038
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: have no reason, but I'm gonna say Kansas Okay, I'm

1039
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: going to actually go with Tampa. No, I'm gonna go

1040
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: with Kansas City. Kansas City is having more or less

1041
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Actually, I'm gonna go with my original thought

1042
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: that Tampa has less because Tampa is all the way

1043
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: in Florida and they generally some well like they kind

1044
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: of draft geographically friendly on some level. Two. So I'm

1045
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna go with Tampa. Okay has left, all right, this

1046
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be brutal. Uh. There is one player on

1047
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs active roster that is a Pack

1048
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: twelve alumnus alumnus. It is one of their offensive linemen

1049
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: is actually in Oregon State alum. And they do have

1050
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: a second Oregon State alum who is not on the

1051
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: active roster in quarterback Matt More, But it's Mike Remer's

1052
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: who is in his eighth year out of Oregon State.

1053
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: He is an offensive lineman six five eight pounds. That

1054
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: is the only Pack twelve player. They would technically have

1055
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: another one, but Todd Graham kicked Mike Pennell off the

1056
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: team at a s U and he went to UH

1057
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: and finished his college career at CSU Pueblo and is

1058
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: now in his seventh year in the NFL. So technically

1059
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: a SU would have a player in this game, but

1060
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: Todd Graham kicked Mike Penal out of school and so

1061
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: they do not. So only one active Pack twelve player

1062
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. Do you feel like embarrassed by that? No? Okay,

1063
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: so do you feel embarrassed that there are two CSU

1064
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Pueblo active players in this game and only one Packed

1065
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: twelve player on the entire Chief's roster? Okay, sometimes that

1066
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: can happen on on teams, but there should actually be

1067
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: more than one. Yeah, there should be more than one.

1068
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: There should there should be at least three on every

1069
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: single roster. Yeah, so there are five on Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Well I want to I want to technically, yeah, if

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: you do it that way, Um, can you guess any

1072
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: of the Pack twelve alumni that are playing for Tampa Bay? Oh? Gosh? Okay,

1073
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: so one of them is a Hall of Famer, so

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01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: you should be able to get that one Hall of Famer? Yes,

1075
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: Pac twelve. All right, I'm trying to think who they

1076
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: have on their team, So I'm gonna go with oh oh,

1077
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: Rob Greg Galski to Arizona. Yes, yeah, um uh us

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: USC has to. They obviously have Ronald Jones and uh

1079
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: the tackle who just who wait? No, no, he got

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: drafted by my Miami um A Jackson. Yes, just Ronald

1081
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: Just Ronald Jones from UM from Tampa Bay or from

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: USC is the only player on Tampa Bay from the Trojans.

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Um does Kenyan Barner count because I remember seeing on

1084
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: his Instagram that he had just got gotten signed. So

1085
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: he is on their roster, but he is injured and

1086
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: so he will not be playing in the game. They

1087
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: also have Evan Bayliss on the other side for Kansas

1088
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: City who is injured and not playing in this game.

1089
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: So Oregon does have a little bit of representation. Oh see,

1090
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: exactly they do? You do you know that if Tampa wins,

1091
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Kenyan Barner's third Super Bowl ring.

1092
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: That's hilarious, lucky bastard. So I think they're actually a

1093
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: couple of University of Washington uh players. Uh, Vita Vella. Oh,

1094
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: he's he's hurt. No, No, he's coming back now, So

1095
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be available for the game. And

1096
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: Jaden Mickens, the wide receiver. Okay, so University Washington has

1097
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: two and then uh, there is also um Dawn Buchanan

1098
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: remember him. He he was a Washington State UH Cougar.

1099
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: He was a first round picked by the Cardinals. He

1100
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: kind of flamed out because he's in between guy as

1101
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: a linebacker and safety. But he flamed out after the

1102
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: transition of Bruce Arians leaving the ares on the Cardinals

1103
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: and so guests who picked him up Bruce Arians, and

1104
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: so he is he is actually out there, um, And

1105
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: I think that leaves one more And I'm trying to

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: remember it off the top of my head without without

1107
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: looking it up, but I don't know if I'm going

1108
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: to be able to to do it there. I can't

1109
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: remember who the fifth player is. No, that's it. That's

1110
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: all five. That's all five because there's two Washington players,

1111
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: one from Washington State, Ronald Jones, and then Gronk. That's it.

1112
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all the Pac twelve representation in the

1113
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I definitely do not feel good about that. Um.

1114
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: All right, hold on, hold on, hold on, Okay, let's

1115
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: see how many Oh I'm gonna pull up their roster

1116
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: right now, Let's see how many sec players. They you

1117
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: count SEC players. Actually, I can't count SEC players. You

1118
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: count big ten players on the active roster only, yes, yeah, okay, alright,

1119
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: so uh you want to pause a podcast or just

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01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: want people to listen to us just counting. Well, no,

1121
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm almost done and you just made me

1122
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: lose count. Yeah. I don't know if I'm gonna be

1123
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 1: done anytime soon. Man. Uh, I'm at ten, eleven, twelve,

1124
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: geez christ, it's like eleven or twelve on Tampa Okay,

1125
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: so we don't we don't even need need the exact number.

1126
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: I was just saying, if there were the Big ten

1127
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: is not exactly uh super represented on on the on

1128
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: the roster either. There are Missouri's SEC right yep. Okay, Um,

1129
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: there's like eight or nights there's like eight or nine

1130
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: ten players on Tampa Bay only. Damn. Okay, this is sad. Yeah,

1131
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: it's a rough one man. And I yeah, I'm not

1132
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: even gonna go through the Chiefs roster because they they

1133
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: they're not bothering to have any pack twelve talent on

1134
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: that team. Now I see, Now I'm I'm rooting against

1135
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I'm rooting for Tampa Bay now, Oh, I

1136
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: need my homes to win, so we can pass up Brady,

1137
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: um pass up some time super Bowl. You just but

1138
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be rooting for him for his whole career.

1139
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: That's fine. Um there there, Okay, So here's the Easter egg. Guys.

1140
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: We we we have set up a secret text as

1141
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: phone number that you guys can text us. We're gonna

1142
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: be sending our updates when we do um, when we

1143
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: do cool events, all of this stuff, because we're gonna

1144
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: put together a whole pack twealth community. Here is the

1145
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: phone number. Eight one, eight two nine three seven five

1146
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: four seven eight one eight two nine three seven five

1147
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: four seven. Text the phone number. We will text text

1148
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: you back and we give out special prizes anything like that.

1149
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: You will have to have hit us for us to

1150
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: be able to talk to you. But here's the thing,

1151
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: here's the catch. Do not share the phone number with people.

1152
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: Make them listen to the episode and get it for themselves.

1153
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: Do not share the phone number. You can tell them

1154
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: that there's an easter Egg in the show, but do

1155
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: not just outright explicitly give it to them. Make them

1156
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: come earn it like you had to come earn it. Um,

1157
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: so I guess the last thing we have up Ralph

1158
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: is what the basketball? Yeah? Yeah, because I just had

1159
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: a couple of things I wanted to touch on, and

1160
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: then we'll get more into the basketball scene in future episodes.

1161
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 1: There's a game that you don't want to miss. Um

1162
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: Saturday eight p m U c l A at usc

1163
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: This is this is big and I don't know if

1164
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: anybody really thought that this game was gonna matter as

1165
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: much at this point in the season as it does

1166
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: right now. But you're talking to out the number one

1167
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: and number two teams. There's only one ranked Pack twelve

1168
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: basketball team. There's the same number of ranked Pack twelve

1169
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: basketball teams as there are Pack twelve football players on

1170
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs roster. So that's not very fun.

1171
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: Because there's been a couple of really disappointing performances this year,

1172
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: namely from Arizona State, who a lot of people pick

1173
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: to win the conference. They're currently in ninth or something

1174
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: like that. UM and that's after winning a couple of

1175
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: games in a row, so they're really really uh big

1176
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: surprise is um U c l A playing at such

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: a high level even though they lost Chris Smith to

1178
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: an a c L tear and USC is actually playing

1179
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: at a really high level as well. So these two

1180
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: are going head to head on Saturday. U c L

1181
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: as nine and one in conference as if today USC

1182
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: is seven and two. UM, and I think that's gonna

1183
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: be that, that's gonna that's gonna tell us a lot.

1184
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 1: I feel like about whether either one of these teams

1185
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: is you know, if it's a close game, then we'll

1186
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: know that both can either play or not play. UM.

1187
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: But if one team blows the other out, then I

1188
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: think we'll know who the favorite is. Through the through

1189
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: the end of the year. H in the conference, COVID

1190
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: is still pretty much ruining everything. So it's hard to

1191
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: take the stands seriously as is because some games some

1192
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: teams have only played eight conference games while others have

1193
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: played eleven or twelve. UM. But yeah, I just wanted

1194
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: to I wanted to give a shout out to u

1195
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: c L A, and then I wanted to get your

1196
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: take on UM Arizona State because they had brought in

1197
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: UM three top fifteen recruiting classes in a row, and

1198
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: here they are trying not to finish the last in

1199
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve with Bobby Hurley at coach, would you

1200
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: consider this hot seat here? No, I would not consider

1201
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: it a hot seat. Hear they went to the tournament

1202
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: last year? They probably would have Yeah, yeah, yeah, they

1203
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: would have gone to the tournament. But the issue, Okay,

1204
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: so I kind of give coaches some coaches is some

1205
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: coaches a mulligan for this season, and some of them

1206
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: are inexplicable. Look at John Calipari at Kentucky. Some idiots

1207
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: are like, let's fire maybe Calipari is on the hot seat,

1208
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: Like what what? How? How would John Calipari? I know

1209
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: their team is like five and ten or five and

1210
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: eleven or something like that right now. This is an

1211
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: awful season for them, But how do you fire John Calipari? Like,

1212
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: come on, bro, He's one of national championship, played in

1213
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 1: another one, been to the final four a couple of

1214
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: times that they get like this is the guy you

1215
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: want to fire? Dude, stop stop. It's an outlier season,

1216
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: the same thing as what I see with the Arizona State. Yes,

1217
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: it's disappointing, but some of it is probably on the players.

1218
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Some of it is on the pandemic and how they've

1219
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 1: adjusted I don't know, or or maybe the PAC twelve

1220
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: is better than people think. I think it is, but

1221
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: you don't know because they're not really playing out of

1222
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: conference games so so much so I don't know exactly

1223
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: how to score this battle. Yeah, I mean I I

1224
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: felt the same way about football, though, and you still

1225
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: saw people get fired, but you saw less people get

1226
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: get fired. I mean Auburn firing Gus Moult Miles on

1227
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: was I think that's gonna be looked back as a

1228
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: pure idiocy, not not even that Brian Harrison won't be

1229
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: successful there. But you paid like was was gust Miles

1230
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: on twenty almost thirty million dollars bad to like fire

1231
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: him during a pandemic? Like? Was was he that bad? Yeah?

1232
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it was thirty million dollars bad for

1233
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: him and his assistance. I didn't think so, I guess,

1234
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: uh yeah. I mean, well, we'll see how things play

1235
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: out this week. That there's you're they're reaching no coming

1236
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: back territory, so we'll know by the end of this week.

1237
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: We'll talk some more basketball in next week's show, but

1238
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: I did want to touch on one more thing before

1239
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: we let basketball go, because I think it's gonna be

1240
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: something that we talked about a lot in the upcoming weeks.

1241
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: Over the last couple of years, as ESPN has sort

1242
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: of had a battle with University of Arizona over whether

1243
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: they're reporting was correct about DeAndre Eton accepting a hundred

1244
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: thousand dollars um and Mark Schleibaugh uh had a really

1245
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: had it out with the University of Arizona fans over

1246
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,799
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. They believe he got everything wrong.

1247
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: He basically left Twitter altogether because you have a fans

1248
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: would just be on him every time he had anything

1249
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: to say about anything, and a lot of people thought

1250
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: that universe this would end with University of Arizona potentially

1251
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: suing ESPN for damages, especially if the reporting was truly

1252
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: as um uh, I guess defamatory as you you have

1253
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: a fans have made it out to be. However, that's

1254
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: not what happened. Arizona didn't suit ESPN. Today, ESPN sued

1255
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: University of Arizona. That's that's funny. That's funny when people

1256
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: thought it was like that didn't go how you thought

1257
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: it was gonna go. Oh yeah, this definitely caught me

1258
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: off guard. ESPN filed a lawsuit against the Arizona Board

1259
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: of regents because they want to get their hands on

1260
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: the Notice of allegations because and and one of the

1261
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 1: theories on this UM Jason Sheer, who was seven reporter

1262
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 1: UM out of Tucson, who has been like just bashing

1263
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: Mark Slabaugh for the last two years. Uh and and

1264
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: has been probably the biggest defender of of Sean Miller

1265
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: um and has actually made some pretty good points along

1266
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: the way about whether espn is reporting was credible or not.

1267
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: And ESPN to this day has not been able to

1268
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: really back up some of the core claims that they

1269
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: made about DeAndre Ayton being compensated by the University of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: He says that he believes ESPN filed the suit because

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Speaker 1: it believes there was a phone call with Ayton and

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Speaker 1: will do anything not to look stupid. So that's his

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Speaker 1: theory is that ESPN is trying to go to back

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Speaker 1: for their employee who broke this story. UM. And I

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Speaker 1: guess what happens if you know what happens to you

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Speaker 1: of a If there's information in this Notice of Allegations

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Speaker 1: that actually does make the ESPN reporting look more credible,

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Speaker 1: how bad would that be for the University of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, dude, that that would I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there would be a worse situation for them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there is there a worse one.

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Speaker 1: I just my question is finding out that everything's true,

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Speaker 1: our jobs on the line for both ESPN and you

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: have a fire Marks Schlagball. If it came out there

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Speaker 1: was never there was never anything with DeAndre Ayton receiving

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Speaker 1: any type of compensation. Would you be forced to fire

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Speaker 1: your reporter for having us faulty source and standing by

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Speaker 1: that source through a lot of controversy, Yes, they would

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Speaker 1: have to fire him, Like, there's no way that you

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Speaker 1: can't fire him if you find out that that's true,

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Speaker 1: no way. We are in the end game now. Then

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to track this is as we go

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Speaker 1: and see if if ESPN is successful in in their lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: which I'm I'm assuming they will be. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: you think that there's any way that they can't fire him,

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Speaker 1: that they can't fire March Slaba, or that this doesn't

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Speaker 1: end up with like shunkin on a plate. Um, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I get. I guess if it comes down to like

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Speaker 1: Mark slabs editors know his source. I'm assuming they have

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Speaker 1: to know his source and they believe in his reporting

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Speaker 1: to the point where they would file this lawsuit because

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Speaker 1: if not, I think you just quietly let it go. Um.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is so many people had suggested

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Speaker 1: that that you have a sue ESPN and that never happened.

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Speaker 1: So I think that probably Embolden's ESPN to dig further

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Speaker 1: into what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, they're they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: let this go. I'm going to let it go, and

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Speaker 1: neither is UM the u of A. They're both going

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Speaker 1: to be going after this like hard as possible, Like

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Speaker 1: there there's no way that this is, you know, just

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Speaker 1: a happy ending, no way, No how I guess, I

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Speaker 1: guess so they they you know, and it is. Um

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Speaker 1: it's an open records request that was I think denied,

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Speaker 1: and then that's what led to the lawsuit because what

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Speaker 1: Mark Schlaba asked the University of Arizona for was a

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Speaker 1: copy of the notice of allegation, UM, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: And he said that he would pay for any fees

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Speaker 1: to copy and and mail all that stuff. He did

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Speaker 1: this back in October, and UM, they they denied it.

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Speaker 1: They sent a letter UM saying that the University of

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Speaker 1: Arizona has requested to have the n C double A

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Speaker 1: enforcement matter referred to the n C double A s

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Speaker 1: I A r P process. As a result of that request,

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Speaker 1: there remains a possibility of additional investigation by the n

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Speaker 1: C double A. Therefore, at this time, in accordance with

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Speaker 1: n C double A by laws, University is not releasing

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Speaker 1: the notice of allegations as it is in the best

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Speaker 1: interest for the state for any additional investigation to be

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Speaker 1: completed before the disclosures are made. Um So the the

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Speaker 1: university is using the excuse that this might not all

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Speaker 1: be over yet, and that's why they're not turning things over.

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Speaker 1: This is okay, and all of this right, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think think about this, All of this is for what

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Speaker 1: a victimless crime, like we have like we are like

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Speaker 1: all of this noise, all of this chatter, this notice

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Speaker 1: of alegate, this whole thing is all based upon just

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Speaker 1: the fact that this is a victim less crime. Like

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Speaker 1: who was actually injured by if DeAndre Jordan got got money,

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Speaker 1: Uh nobody, Because I mean you saw what happened to

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Speaker 1: the University of Arizona in the first round, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that. Uh yeah, I wouldn't say that University of

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Speaker 1: Arizona overly benefited from their incredible recruiting classes under Sean

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Speaker 1: Miller the last few years. So maybe it should be

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Speaker 1: you University of Arizona either UH trying to get some

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Speaker 1: money back from their coach or trying to get a

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Speaker 1: refund from DeAndre eight either either way, UM No, I

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Speaker 1: was just gonna say that they're gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: that from Puma. They thought it would be Nike. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people thought that that's why DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Ayden went to UH went to University of Arizona because

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Speaker 1: he went from a Nike sponsored UM high school team

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Speaker 1: in Hillcrest to u of A and then Puma ended

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01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: up snaking him. So maybe Puma could settle these debts,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They they might be able

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Speaker 1: to do that may have to be who has to

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Speaker 1: do it, but you guys. Thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 1: to the PAC twelve Apostles podcast. We appreciate your time,

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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: we appreciate your energy. Make sure that you share the

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01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: podcast with a friend, UH, tell him about it, and

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: of course hit hit the line if you got it,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, all right, peace out and get

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Speaker 1: you guys next week.