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Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Get ready now for Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions

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Speaker 1: subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sanders Champlain. For

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Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey to

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Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode

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Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved

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Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death and so will we well

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Speaker 1: them to Shades of the Afterlife. I want to introduce

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Speaker 1: you to a guy that came highly recommended. His name

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Speaker 1: is Roland Comtois. He's a spiritual medium a speaker. He

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Speaker 1: hosts a podcast called The Wisdom Keepers and has a

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Speaker 1: TV show called Soul Stories. He's worked in this field

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Speaker 1: for over forty years, and he has a history as

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Speaker 1: He's the author of several books, including And Then There

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Speaker 1: Was Heaven, Sixteen Minutes, Signs of Spirit, and co authored

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Speaker 1: the book three hundred and sixty five Days of Angel Prayers.

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Speaker 1: He's up to some pretty interesting things, and I thought

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Speaker 1: it'd be great to have a conversation with him. Roland welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Sandrome, thrilled to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm thrilled. If you could see my smile on

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Speaker 1: my face right now, you would get joy I have.

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Speaker 1: I've heard your name mentioned views times as somebody had

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Speaker 1: to interview, and then our mutual friend Sherry Pearl gave

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Speaker 1: thank you for spending this time with us. Thanks again,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah. So you're coming to us from

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Speaker 1: where in this on this planet. So right now I

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Speaker 1: you as well. Roland. Tell us about yourself. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: so much that I don't even know where to begin.

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Speaker 1: Maybe at the beginning. Maybe at the beginning, I was

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Speaker 1: left to be discovered. Um from Mr Gongdalski is in there,

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Speaker 1: So she had a moment of reconnecting with her father

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. Welcome back to Shades the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine.

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Speaker 1: We're with Roland Comtois, who is a medium, healer, fabulous

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of activity going on, just like it

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Speaker 1: is in the bar. The music, the dancing, the loud noises,

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Speaker 1: all that energy is there. That same energy exists when

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Speaker 1: the universe or I loved ones are trying to communicate

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Speaker 1: their message, because, like you said a few minutes ago,

434
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Speaker 1: they're all out there saying, come on, talk to me.

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00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get a message to my son, to my

436
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Speaker 1: mom or someone. You know. Yeah, I'm just imagining a

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Speaker 1: busy city with all kinds of people. Then you know

438
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Speaker 1: in the background the spirit world, and in front of

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Speaker 1: you is big audience. And oh wow, how that exactly it?

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00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: You You hit the nail on the head like an

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00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: air traffic controller. Okay, yeah, I might have to use that.

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00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Can I use it? Yeah? I love that analogy. I

443
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: never thought of it that way. But yeah, lot's coming

444
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: and going, but then you have to, for safety's sake,

445
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: zero in on one person. Yeah. Absolutely, that's a great analogy.

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00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate st Hey, let's share the world, Roland.

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Speaker 1: come back, I want to find out more. Is it

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Speaker 1: like being an air traffic controller trying to tune in

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Speaker 1: Change of the Afterlife. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain. We're with medium Roland Comet, and we

466
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: were talking about how mediumship can be sometimes like being

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00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: an air traffic controller. You've got a lot going on

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00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: around you. Plus you've got a lot of spirit people

469
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: coming through. Roland. Is there a way to just tone

470
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: in on one person? I guess there must be, because

471
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Yeah, okay, yeah, you know that.

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00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: That's years of practice. I think UM at my events

473
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: when I say when I see something or feel something,

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00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: I go to the person and I say, your mom

475
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: wants me to talk to you. I don't say I

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00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: don't say um anything other than what I feel or

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00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: sense or see or know in that moment. Right, So

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00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: if I if I don't know someone's first name, I'll

479
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: tell them the story I hear, and the story I

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00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: hear generally is what they need to hear somehow, you know.

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00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: So for me, it's just saying what's there, speaking from

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00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: that place of love, being aware of the of their

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: of the person who's before me, the energy that they're feeling,

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00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: and really supporting them through the process, because it's all

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: about catching your breath, feeling a little bit of healing,

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00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: feeling supported, and then getting the message. The message isn't

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00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: even the first aspect of this. The first aspect of

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00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: this is being supported. Can I just tell you a

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00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: little story? Heck? Yeah, So there was Okay, there was

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00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: a you know there. I see a lot of people

491
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: every year, and it's hard to remember everybody, obviously, but

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00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: I will never forget this one woman I met. She

493
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: was in her twenties when I met her, and she

494
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: was sitting at a room with fifty or sixty other people.

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00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: My audiences are a little bit smaller, purposefully, so I

496
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: could talk to as many people as possible. And she

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00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: was there, and and I was starting to talk about

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00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: her father, and I was saying whatever it is that

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00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I was saying. I don't remember the details of what

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00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: I've said to her, but what I do remember is

501
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: when I started to talk to her, I heard a

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00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: sound come out of a human being that I've never

503
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: heard before. I heard it's so it makes my ears

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00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: stand No. What came out of her was of grief

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00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: and a pain that was so deeply entrenched in her

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00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: that the second I said whatever it is that I said,

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00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: she made a sound and sobbed and sobbed and sobbed.

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00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: I stopped the audience from doing anything, and I said

509
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: to the audience at that moment, this is your chance

510
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: to step up and to be part of this girl's life.

511
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: And some woman all the way at the other end

512
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Speaker 1: of the room came over and held this girl as

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00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: she cried. My hand was on her shoulder, A strange

514
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: was holding her, and she sobbed and sobbed and sobbed.

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00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: And the reason why she cried was and she told

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00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: me this after the event, that whatever the message was

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00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: for her. She was on her way to meet her

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00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: father for the first time in a very long time,

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: and on the way, driving there from Connecticut to across

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00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: the country to somewhere just to California, I mean across

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00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: the country. Her father died while she was driving there.

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00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: And she arrived in California with her baby that he

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00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: was going to meet for the first time, and he

524
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: was gone. And the words that came to her helped her.

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00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: But what helped her first was a strange stranger coming

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00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: up to her and holding her and embracing her and

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00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: loving her. And the entire audience turned to her and

528
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: sent her a part of themselves. That's what happened that day.

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00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: So you know, the message comes, yes, but what comes

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00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: before that is the loving support, and then what comes

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00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: around that is the healing possibilities for someone um to

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: go through the journey of hearing and feeling and experiencing

533
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: the message that might give them what they need to

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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: take the next step in their lives. I forgot why

535
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: I was telling you that story. No, there's no need

536
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: to remember. It's just great. I don't either. We're we're

537
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: in the moment and see that's what's important. And there's

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00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: something that you're saying that just makes me realize, like

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00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: we can turn love on in any second and it

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00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: doesn't even matter if we know the person to love them.

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00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: And then what shows up is you know, looking at

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Speaker 1: a total stranger and somebody walking across the room to

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00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: be there for someone. Yeah, you know, I think. I

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00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: think love is so beautifully innate within each cell of

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00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: our being that when we have a chance to truly

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00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: step into it, it happens Almo, it happens with about

547
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: thinking because I think it's part of all of us,

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I've seen it so many times where

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00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: someone steps beyond their own grief and embraces someone like

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00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: there's no tomorrow, and it is profound. It's profound to me.

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00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: The messages are great. The messages are you know they are.

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00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: They are for me, and I'm not speaking for the

553
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: audience now, I'm speaking for myself. Sometimes I take my

554
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: breath away. How how did that happen? How did those

555
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: words come to be? How did that just happen when

556
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: that paper was written and given to somebody. It's so

557
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: mysterious and not all at the same time. If we

558
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: truly look at love for what it is, it's innate

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00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: energy within each soul, then we unlocked the doorway to

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00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: love by just being in a space and being in

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00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: that place. So I learned early on, very early on,

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00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: by the way I I learned when my father abandon us,

563
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: my sister and my mother. I knew then that I

564
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: had to understand love because otherwise my only mission would

565
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: have been hate because I was so angry at it.

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00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: So I had to make a decision to really understand

567
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: what love was and what love is to connect to everything.

568
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 1: So and life can be tough. I did a course once,

569
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: and you know you realize that you would have to

570
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: actually walk in somebody's shoes their entire life and feel

571
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: what they feel to understand the decisions that people make

572
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: and say, you know why your dad left for whatever

573
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: reason that is, yeah, you know it. I think it's easy.

574
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: It's easier to maybe judge that experience. But instead I

575
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: made a decision, and it took a long time. Let's say,

576
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean I was ten years old when he left.

577
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: It took a little time to really embrace that love.

578
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: And then then I was feeling all this energy, and

579
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: then I know, I was knowing that there was love

580
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and all these things were hal and

581
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: in a ten to seventeen year old person and then

582
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: trying to be ten to seventeen years old, So there

583
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of things happening. But I made a

584
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: decision to figure out my way through it um and

585
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: to embrace each of those obstacles and detours. Yeah, have

586
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: people wear those glasses that are either pink or blue

587
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: or yellow, Like, what if the lens was love? That's great?

588
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: What if it was or or what if you just

589
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: needed a reminder to reconnect to that energy? What if

590
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: you just needed a little reminder you know every so

591
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: often I give out love rose courts hearts to remind

592
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: people of love. Every so often. I when I'm doing

593
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: my events, I stopped the audience and say, let's all

594
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: text someone we love right now, and you know, and

595
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: we all laugh about it. I did a church thing,

596
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: a church sermon a couple of weeks ago, and I

597
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: made the audience stop. I made them take their phones

598
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: out and made them and make them do anything. I suggested,

599
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: heavily suggested, suggested you know that this would be a

600
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: good idea, And all of a sudden, everybody was doing it,

601
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: and you could feel the room get lighter just because

602
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: of that experience. Well, in this everything you say and

603
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: do and your past, like I keep getting the word trust,

604
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: and I think you've trusted what's come about on your journey,

605
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: and you trust when you're writing the Purple papers, and

606
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: your trust when you're with an audience and you just trust,

607
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: and you know, for myself and others, you know, there's

608
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: the gap there because I don't always live life trusting

609
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: what I feel, what I think, what I hear, and

610
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: it's just I just see for myself, there's a whole

611
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: another level because you're filled with love. I feel like

612
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: you're an open book. You're just being very real and trusting.

613
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: I think I think it's important for us to be

614
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: real with each other yet really truly UM. And the

615
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: trust thing. I've been working on that, and this is

616
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: this is where I am right now. You know, I've

617
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: been working on that. And when I hear the voice, though,

618
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: when I feel the energy, I do trust that moment

619
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: because you know, I made an agreement a long time ago.

620
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, I said to the spirit world, I said, look,

621
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: if you want me to do this, I'm honored to

622
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: do it, UM, but you've got to help me along

623
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: the way. You've got to give me little moments to

624
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to to strengthen myself so that I can totally entrust

625
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: myself into this moment. And it's become that now. So

626
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: when I hear a story about Robert or Mr Ganleski

627
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: or um so specific. If I read the Purple Papers

628
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: to you, they are specific. There's no getting around them.

629
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: There's so specific about the life of the person Um

630
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: and you know it else. It's interesting with those messages,

631
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: they don't vary meaning even though it's specific, and two

632
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: people could look at it and feel something from it.

633
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: When I'm with the person it belongs to, it all

634
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: sinks into place and then I trust again, just like

635
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: you've mentioned. I mean, I trust in that moment that

636
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: it's working out exactly as it's supposed to and that

637
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: message will do what it's supposed to do. So you know,

638
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: it is about building the trust. It really is. It

639
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: is about building that trust. And that's when I've come

640
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: to uh understand. Like I'm holding in front of me

641
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: a purple paper that says, Lou does not want to admit,

642
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: but I was old. And he goes on to express

643
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Speaker 1: the depth of that feeling for him, for for for Lou,

644
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: and then it goes on. It goes on to say

645
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: other things about now I'm finally happy and and and

646
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: he goes on to express his whole experience. Right. It's

647
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: it's there's nothing about them that really leaves you waiting.

648
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: This one here from Joey. Joey left unexpectedly. I had

649
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: no idea it was going to happen so fast. I

650
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: honestly have to say I did my best. And he

651
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: goes on to say more, and he talks about the

652
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: stars at night because it's on the paper, and certain

653
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Speaker 1: things are highlighted. So it takes a lot of trust,

654
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Speaker 1: as you said here that and then to stand in

655
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: front of someone and say here's your paper, here's your message,

656
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: and and that Joey one was delivered the other night

657
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Speaker 1: in Johnston, Rhode Island to a woman whose brother passed

658
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Speaker 1: very unexpectedly, and when she read the paper, she started

659
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlaine

698
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: and we are with medium A Roland comtois Roland. When

699
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: these messages come through that you write on the purple papers,

700
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: how do they come through? Do you hear your own voice?

701
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Do you hear someone else's voice? It's many different things.

702
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just kind of an automatic writing kind of thing.

703
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the voice of a man. He's talking like this,

704
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: and I feel that. I try to showcase that on

705
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: the paper, meaning by if it's someone like that, I

706
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: say that on the paper, or if it's somebody humorous,

707
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I try to say he's joking. Now. I try to

708
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: bring the presence of that person to those purple papers.

709
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: I listened to my body, I listened to my spirit,

710
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: I listened to my emotions. I trust what I'm feeling

711
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to the spiritual realm and I and

712
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: I just embark on my journey. I mean, it is

713
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: my mission to bring one little moment of hope. That's

714
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: what I'm on a mission to do. Anyways, well, you're

715
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: you're doing it so And then just even talking about listening,

716
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking, I don't listen too much. It's

717
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: very easy to listen to the voice in our own

718
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: head that's critiquing life as we see it, thinking about

719
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: the past, worrying about the future. But listening to your body,

720
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: listening to your emotions, listening to your feelings, that all

721
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: gets you in the present moment. And I can't help

722
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: but think that there's power in that, and your intuition

723
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: can come through and that love and that it's true.

724
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I teach my

725
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: students is the one thing I want you to learn

726
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: from this experience is to befriend silent first. So anyone

727
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: who comes to me for any kind of training or

728
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: teaching or whatever, the goal is to get silent, and

729
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: in that silence emerges light, the message, the knowing that

730
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: silence is the catalyst to all things. I work really

731
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: hard at silencing my a D D A D h

732
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: D mind because I have that mind, and I know

733
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are crazed with all kinds of

734
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: life experiences now and things are overwhelming. And actually I

735
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: feel so peaceful sitting here with you, talking with you today.

736
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking outside, as I said, already, the green is grass.

737
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: The horses are having a blast out there down in

738
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: the neighbor's yard. And this is justice overwhelming sense of peace.

739
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: But the second we walk out there into the world,

740
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: the world is spinning and moving. And so we have

741
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: to really come to understand what that silence is and

742
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and really be silence. And that's one of my big

743
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, my big stories to tell people that say,

744
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: if we can get silent, then we can truly hear

745
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: what the universe, what the spirit world, what our loved ones,

746
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: whatever exists there wants to communicate to us. Not only

747
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: that we have a greater sense of ourselves because of it.

748
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it a lot. And we

749
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: all want to have great things happen and intuition and

750
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: communication with our loved ones and things. And it's like

751
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: give it to me now, I want it now, you know.

752
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: And but then it's like, well, have we done the

753
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: first step befriending silence? Right? You're right, m have we

754
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: But we say we want things, but you know, we've

755
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: got to put in a little bit of the work

756
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: or take away the distraction. We have to do the work. Fortunately, unfortunately,

757
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: however you want to look at it. We have to

758
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: do the work because there is a greater sense of

759
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: accomplishment by being in that space. And I'm going to

760
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: say this because I feel it that if you really

761
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: under stand the silence, then the whole universe is communicating

762
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: with you. It gives you the opportunity to see your

763
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: loved ones. It gives you an opportunity to see whatever

764
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: it is that that you believe exists just beyond our breath.

765
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I tell people to do the sixty second spiritual workouts,

766
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: said for sixty seconds, that's it. It's not that thrilling,

767
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: But you know, sixty seconds leads to five minutes. Five

768
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: minutes leads to ten minutes. You know, and at some

769
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: point you feel refreshed, renewed and ready to really take

770
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the next step on your journey. And again, as I

771
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: said it at the beginning of our time together, I

772
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: think everybody is a medium. I think everybody is connected.

773
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I think there's no one book in the universe that

774
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: says roll in comtois is the one it doesn't think.

775
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: It says that all have the connection, that all have

776
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: the opportunity, that all have thespiration, that all of us

777
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: have it, and and and our job is to continually

778
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: unlock that and and let that door widened and widened

779
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: so that we can see the universe, so that we

780
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: can see it all. I had, you know, a near

781
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: death experience thirty years ago. It taught me, as did

782
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: my grandmother standing before me, as did my time sitting

783
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: with my patients that were dying, as did sitting with

784
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: my mother when she was dying. All of this has

785
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: taught me that we truly exist, We don't die, We

786
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: are light. And and when I think about my mother,

787
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: maybe we should all think about our people right now,

788
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: everybody that's listening, what is it about them that you

789
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: loved so much? When I think about my mother, it's

790
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: that something inside of her that made her so extraordinary,

791
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: the part that really is invisible, you know. The vaga

792
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: agdafo Westerner says that when the matter part falls, the

793
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: spirit remains stand thing, and that we all have access.

794
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: So when I think about my mother, I think about

795
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: how I smiled near her, I think about how I

796
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: loved her I think about the times that we had

797
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: together and I laughed. I also think about the times

798
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: that we're hard. It's the part of her inside that

799
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: we're connecting to. Love is by far the most extraordinary

800
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: communicator that exists in the universe now, and if the

801
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: message is coming from love, even though there may have

802
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: been hardships in the relationship, there is a moment to

803
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: reclaim that love now. So I think about my mother's love.

804
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Think about your people and their love and their energy

805
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: and what you experience with them, and that might be

806
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: the catalyst to get the message. Besides befriended with silence,

807
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: that's pretty great because when I think of my dad,

808
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: my grandmother, it's I mean, I can feel that essence.

809
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a word that describes that yet.

810
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that's you're right. I don't think there's

811
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: one word that can describe the sole aspect of who

812
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: we are in a language that we understand. Yet I

813
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: think we're growing into that language. Maybe we say love, yes,

814
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: but you know, love gets a little washed down unless

815
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: you really put action into love, you know. Um, And

816
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: so that love, that energy, that's something really is the

817
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: connection that exists between us, and that connection allows us

818
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: to having a much deeper, more profound, really relationship with

819
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: those that are here and those that have passed on.

820
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: I love it and that it does help with the

821
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: living as well, you know, because there, let's face it,

822
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: we're around many, many people and we can love them

823
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: as well. I want to ask you about your book.

824
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: My first book is and Then There was Having a

825
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Journey of Hope and Love. It's a spiritual memoir about

826
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: the experiences of my life with nuggets of hope and

827
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: inspiration tucked within the book. In the middle of the

828
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: book there are blank pages, and in the blank pages

829
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: there partially placed so that when you come to that

830
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: particular part of the book, you stop, you breathe, you reflect,

831
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: you remember your life, who you are, what you are,

832
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: why you are, you know, and you just kind of

833
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: stay in that space for a while, and then you

834
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: can follow through to the rest of the book. The

835
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: second book is called sixteen Minutes. When one breath ends,

836
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: another begins. It really is the journey of a medium's

837
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: experiences of his mother's passing, and it's told from my

838
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: perspective of my mother's life and the journey that we

839
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: had together and what we went through. And in the

840
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: back of the book is a grief guide so there

841
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: are some helpful hints, because all we can do is

842
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: offer a helpful hints with grief and loss. I mean,

843
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: everybody experiences it their own way. So there's just a

844
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a guide book in the back of

845
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: the book that will help people to navigate possibly what

846
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: they're going through. And then Signs of Spirit. It's forty

847
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: five store reads of the Purple Papers, so you don't

848
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: hear my voice in these in this book at all.

849
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: You hear the voice of the people whose stories who

850
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: lives have been touched by the Purple Papers. Um. And

851
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: then I'm a co author of many authors though in

852
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: the three and sixty five Days of Angel Prayer books,

853
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of people involved in that book.

854
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: I will tell you though, that what brings me the

855
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: most joy in my world is being with someone who

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Speaker 1: a cliche, but the truth is when someone is shedding

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Speaker 1: their grave or releasing their fears or their tears, and

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Speaker 1: I get to stand by their side and hold them

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Speaker 1: up or be with them, hold their hand, or give

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Speaker 1: them a message, then I feel very fortunate in my life,

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Speaker 1: and I felt the same way as a as a

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Speaker 1: certified nursing assistant to uh the job that I the

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Speaker 1: mission that I do now. So from my job as

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Speaker 1: a nurse all the way to this, I am on

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Speaker 1: to step in that space because that's where I think

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Speaker 1: the truth is, That's where I think love is, and

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Speaker 1: that's where I think the healing is. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the common denominators that brings myself, you and probably

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Speaker 1: of people listening right now, is that we've all experienced grief.

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Speaker 1: It's not cliche to catch your breath and really give

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Speaker 1: people hope and give people a knowing. We're human beings

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Speaker 1: and we are attached and connected to each other. It's

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Speaker 1: part of the human experience. Now. I know there are

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Speaker 1: some philosophies that say we shouldn't be attached, but the

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Speaker 1: fact is we are connected. You know, we are connected

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Speaker 1: to each other. And when that moment comes, when someone passes,

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Speaker 1: no matter how younger or how old, there's still an

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Speaker 1: emptiness that you have to navigate through. And sometimes someone

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Speaker 1: like me or us helps us to navigate through for

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Speaker 1: a moment or two and catch our breath, and catch

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Speaker 1: our breath basically yes, Rowland, thank you, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I really appreciate being here

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Speaker 1: with your earning and meaning you so thank you so much. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see each other in person because we both live

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Speaker 1: in the same New England area. Is there anything I

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Speaker 1: forgot to ask you or that you said, oh I've

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Speaker 1: never mentioned this or any last bits of can't cover

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Speaker 1: it at all. I think if we remember, though, that

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Speaker 1: the connections that we make with our loved ones, they

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Speaker 1: validate the continuity of life, and they remind us of

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Speaker 1: the existence of the soul. They remind us that we

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Speaker 1: are not alone. And that is what really feels good,

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Speaker 1: is that we're not alone, that we are still loved,

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Speaker 1: and that we are still supported through this experience. That's

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Speaker 1: all I have, that's all you have, just the beginning

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Speaker 1: of a beautiful relationship with all of us. And thank

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Speaker 1: you Roland again for your time and your dedication and

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Speaker 1: being an inspiration. Just who you're being on this interview.

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Speaker 1: You're just being loved and you're being trusting, and you're

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Speaker 1: just being yourself and you're a gorgeous human being. You

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Speaker 1: really are. Thank you. You can find out more about

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Speaker 1: Roland at Blessings by Roland dot com. Also come join

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Speaker 1: us on a Wednesday for psychic class which leads into

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Speaker 1: mediumship at We Don't Die dot com. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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