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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot com. Schmelk Meadow you at

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Speaker 1: two nine four or five one three. It's all presented

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Speaker 1: an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Giants with a

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Speaker 1: forty to sixteen blow victory over anybody. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: been a long time since the middle to say that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just dominating the Washington Redskins down in the Nation's Capital.

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Speaker 1: The game was over at halftime, was thirty four zip.

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Speaker 1: It got to forty to nothing after an Alga Grossas

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Speaker 1: missed extra point in the third quarter. Um and Lance,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much we can break

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Speaker 1: this thing down. It's pretty simple. Uh. Redskins offense couldn't

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Speaker 1: do anything. I think they had one first down the

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Speaker 1: entire first half. Mark Sanchez was a disaster. He got

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Speaker 1: no help from his offensive line, especially his two guards,

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Speaker 1: which were backup tackles. Uh. He had a couple of

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Speaker 1: drop passes early in the game, and the Giants defense,

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Speaker 1: and they're front and secondary, took advantage. And that was

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Speaker 1: pretty much all she wrote in a blowout victory in

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Speaker 1: which the Giants dominated in all three phases over then

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes of a breakdown the play off tie

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Speaker 1: and Secky and Austin Howard leeving from tackle to guard.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that right here on Big Look Kickoff Live.

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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, the Giants took advantage of a

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Speaker 1: beat up team both physically and emotionally, the Redskins. And

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Speaker 1: we're not here to make excuses, but if you put

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Speaker 1: things in perspective, the Redskins, they down to their third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback. They're moving guys around like a game of

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Speaker 1: musical chairs and fourth string quarterbacks. By the way, yep,

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Speaker 1: the two starting guards of the Redskins are out. Their

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Speaker 1: backups were out, so that's why they moved obviously tackles inside.

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Speaker 1: And they took advantage of a team that clearly did

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Speaker 1: not have a lot of weeks worth of preparation with

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Speaker 1: all the new personnel. And that's what good teams doe.

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Speaker 1: You don't make excuses for who's on your schedule. You

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Speaker 1: don't make excuses or the circumstances on your schedule. You

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Speaker 1: just take advantage of that. They played the Bears with

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Speaker 1: Chase Daniel. There was no Mitchell Trouvisky. They beat that team.

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Speaker 1: They played the Redskins under these circumstances, they beat that team.

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Speaker 1: They played the Niners with Nick Mullins, they beat that team.

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Speaker 1: That's who you're supposed to take care of if you

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Speaker 1: want to try to turn your season around. And the Giants,

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Speaker 1: to their credit, have won four or five. It's somewhat

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Speaker 1: becoming a tale of two halves to the season. And

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Speaker 1: I continue to go back to this storyline, John, and

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Speaker 1: I think it showed up again yesterday. Turnover differential is

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Speaker 1: dictating wins and losses for this season. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that's a stunning development, but for the Giants in particular

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Speaker 1: this season, when they take away the football, it leads

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Speaker 1: to ws well and frankly, it's like that for all teams,

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Speaker 1: I mean around the league. If you're a plus two

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Speaker 1: or better, I think you win percent of your games

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Speaker 1: around the league. And lo and behold, every time the

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Speaker 1: Giants have been plus two or better this year, they

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Speaker 1: have won games. And each of their five victories, they've

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Speaker 1: been plus two or better, every single one. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at this game again, and we'll start with

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Speaker 1: the turnover theme, because I think it makes sense the

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Speaker 1: Giants offense didn't have to sustain drives down the field

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Speaker 1: in this game, they said, if we did it, Um,

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Speaker 1: they had only three plays rather two drives of seven

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Speaker 1: or more plays. Okay, Um, they only had one drive

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Speaker 1: where it started. So, I mean, it was just one

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Speaker 1: of these one of these games where the Giants offense

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Speaker 1: didn't have to dominate, They didn't have to do a lot.

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Speaker 1: Eli mannings a hundred and seventy eight yards was fine.

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Speaker 1: You know, se Kawan Barkley ripped off two really big

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Speaker 1: different it is lands from before the year to now,

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Speaker 1: when prior in the season you had games where Barkley

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Speaker 1: had more yards after contact than he had yards. Now

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Speaker 1: he has a seventy yard run in a fifty yard

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Speaker 1: run in the game where he was untouched until he

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Speaker 1: it just shows you how the Giants are able to

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Speaker 1: play differently, and and it's helped by the takeaways They

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Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. Another takeaway gave the Giants the ball

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Speaker 1: just set them up for short fields and the Giants

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Speaker 1: offense did what they had to do in the red

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Speaker 1: their defense really did set set the tone him and

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Speaker 1: the Giant stopped the running this game they went because

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Speaker 1: the Redskins were not gonna be unless they completely imploded

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Speaker 1: on an offense and had three four turnovers at their own,

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Speaker 1: the Redskins were not gonna be able to pass the

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Speaker 1: ball and win this game. And once they shut down

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, uh, he did absolutely nothing can cards and

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Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. Yeah, because once you shut down

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, what the Redskins do is they completely shy

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Speaker 1: up with now their third down personnel, which is Chris Thompson.

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Speaker 1: And that's been showcased all season long. That's why the

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Speaker 1: million dollar number for the Redskins is seventeen. When Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson gets seventeen carries, the Redskins are six and oh

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Speaker 1: when he gets less than seventeen carries, they're owing seven.

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Speaker 1: Because what happens is they get down. They don't want

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Speaker 1: good of a receiver as some of the other backs, John,

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Speaker 1: So they put Chris Thompson on the field now that

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, and Adrian Peterson gets completely phased out of

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Speaker 1: the game. Now. The Giants defense forced that, and the

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Speaker 1: Redskins played right into the hands of the Giants defense

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Speaker 1: by taking him off the field. So you get an

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Speaker 1: early lead on Washington, you take away the run. Those

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Speaker 1: this game. And they followed those principles to perfection. That

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Speaker 1: was the key. And to your point, not only did

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Speaker 1: they take away the football, that's only half the battle, John,

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Speaker 1: They scored off of those takeaways. One was a touchdown

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Speaker 1: in which Curtis Riley got in as you mentioned, and

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Speaker 1: then alec ogo Tree off his interception. The Giants then

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Speaker 1: got the ball first and goal at the ten. Three

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Speaker 1: plays later, Sterling Shepard was left wide open in the

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Speaker 1: three turnovers. The final turnovers Michael Thomas seiling the game,

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Speaker 1: This is now the second straight week, by the way,

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Speaker 1: John where they've had the defense score a touchdown on

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Speaker 1: lead because it was alec Ogotree who took a Chase

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Speaker 1: They've had three pick sixes in the span of four games.

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Speaker 1: You do that consistently, you're going to position yourself to

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Speaker 1: as if they have to take all of that on

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Speaker 1: their shoulders. Yeah, no question about it. And then I

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Speaker 1: just look at the Giants scoring drives in this game,

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Speaker 1: all right. Their first scoring drive of the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: they were nine plays, forty three yards. Thirty of those

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Speaker 1: forty three yards came on a deep pass to Corey Coleman. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the next drive, sake Koran Barkley ran for seven eight

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Speaker 1: last scring. Right, So they had a thirty plus yard

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Speaker 1: that was on other things before the season, they've really

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Speaker 1: struggled the last few years making big plays. Well, this

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Speaker 1: game had takeaways leading to shore fields and scores like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, and they had big plays. You put those

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Speaker 1: football games. And the Giants did that against the Red

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Speaker 1: Well and big plays. Let's take it a step further.

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Speaker 1: John without Oldell Beckham on the field, that I think

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Speaker 1: was a pleasant surprise when O'Dell hasn't been on the

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Speaker 1: Who are you turning to? Right point? Great point, So,

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Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, you mentioned against the thirty yard grab, Okay

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Speaker 1: not saying that these guys were getting volume opportunities, but

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Speaker 1: the limited opportunities that everyone had, they took advantage and

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Speaker 1: this game as opposed to anything else, bea is It

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Speaker 1: was a refreshing narrative that we have yet to see

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Speaker 1: how those things could mask what otherwise, quite frankly, was

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Speaker 1: a brutal start to the game for the Giants. I

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Speaker 1: the tweets. I was getting about this game after the

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Speaker 1: Oldell Beckham thirteen yards and that was on the defensive

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Speaker 1: pass interference penalty where Corey Coleman, By the way, you

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Speaker 1: should have caught that passed. I hit him right in hand,

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Speaker 1: and again on on on the diving catch. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan, will they go a man wrecking crew? They

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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. Barkley is getting four yard losses, man's

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Speaker 1: getting sacked. Receivers are dropping passes, and you're like, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: here we go again. And you get to Riley pick,

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Speaker 1: see Quon big run, and all of a sudden seventeen

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference in those first three possessions,

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Speaker 1: by the way, both teams combined for six points. It

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Speaker 1: was really ugly football until you got that pen And

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Speaker 1: that too. You can recover from a bunch of three

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Speaker 1: and ounce if your defense has given the ball right

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Speaker 1: back to you. Again, more at bats, more opportunities, which

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Speaker 1: we've talked about. But you're just looking through the play log, John,

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Speaker 1: If you look on those first three possessions, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball with Barkley here or there, But it

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Speaker 1: seemed as if later and later on into the game

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Speaker 1: and second down. And it wasn't hey Eli out of

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Speaker 1: I think they it took him a while for them

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Speaker 1: How are you hey? John? Hey, I'm trying to call

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Speaker 1: What would have happened in that game if someone tackled

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Speaker 1: and really remember he has the third most touches in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You know you worry about when you're managing

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Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley. You're not just worried about this year.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to limit the pounding on him, as it

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Speaker 1: is the length of a career for a running back

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Speaker 1: in their prime years and Lesson. I went through this

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Speaker 1: in the offseason. It's seven at most eight years to

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Speaker 1: be their dominant self. The most hits you can, unnecessary

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Speaker 1: hits you could take off a body like that, you

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Speaker 1: do it, and when it's forty to nothing, those are

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Speaker 1: unnecessary hits. Okay, I'll thank you, Willie appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: I would not worry about say Kuon Barkley from a

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Speaker 1: statistical standpoint, getting hurt by not playing in the second hand,

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Speaker 1: I said, what Baker would be the biggest threat to him? Baker,

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Speaker 1: I think is somebody that you know you would throw

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Speaker 1: out there and maybe yeah, but I just think in

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Speaker 1: terms of in terms of consistency, though those guys have

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Speaker 1: been impressive, but they split at offense defense anyway. A

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Speaker 1: right Rookie of the Year Phillip Lindsay is a good one. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just think Barkley has been by far the most

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Speaker 1: consistent of those players in the year. Believe your heart subscriminated.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't think that you can make the argument, well,

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Speaker 1: if he played the second half, he would have had

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Speaker 1: a little bit more impressive numbers. He's gonna potentially topple

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Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson's mark for the most one hundred plus scrimmage

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Speaker 1: yard games as a rookie. When you start throwing Eric

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Speaker 1: Dickerson in the conver station and Eric Dickerson went on

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Speaker 1: to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, Zeke is the

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Speaker 1: only guy that was in that category in that number

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Speaker 1: with twelve thirteen games wherever that he had a hundred

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Speaker 1: plus scrimmag jards and he lost out to his teammate

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. So I mean it wasn't as if somebody

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Speaker 1: else outside of him he shouldn't have Elliot should have

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Speaker 1: won that You could easily make the argument. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna disagree with you is Dak had a tremendous touchdown

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Speaker 1: to interception ratio and took the league by storm, forced

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Speaker 1: them to move on from Tony Romo. We know we

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Speaker 1: don't have to revisit those storylines, but the point is

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Speaker 1: he lost to a teammate. If he doesn't have Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott there and Romo is still there, Zeke's running away

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Speaker 1: with that award. I really cannot see anybody toppling se

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Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley for Offensive Rookie of the Year. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a number of catches here on my list. He

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Speaker 1: had seventy four coming in, so he has three hundred

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Speaker 1: touches this year. More or less, I think he has

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Speaker 1: two sixteen rushes right on the co over the course

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Speaker 1: of the year, soul, give or take, he's about three

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Speaker 1: hundred touches with three games to go. Nine Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: so he's two O G five mean, he's on pace

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Speaker 1: for more than touches this year. Four hundred is considered

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Speaker 1: the old boy. You overworked the hell out of that guy,

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Speaker 1: all right, So guys, he's getting he's getting the ball plenty. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, here's the other aspect of this,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe I'm glad that Willy brought this up.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Philadelphia game, John Wayne Goldman comes in for

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Speaker 1: a series and everybody thought Chicken little the sky is falling,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 1: And Goldman had two carries for twelve yards, so they

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Speaker 1: were able to run the football well. With Goldman. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong to give Wayne Goldman some work here there.

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Speaker 1: He's actually been quietly productive this season. The problem is

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Speaker 1: he's been completely overshadowed by Sa Kwon Barkley. So you

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Speaker 1: have to have valuable players on the depth chart. I

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Speaker 1: think that was showcase yesterday across the board with what

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Speaker 1: Russell Shephard, Benny Faller and Corey Coleman did. But you

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Speaker 1: just never know when the injury bug is going to

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Speaker 1: come in. The good teams that keep their head above water,

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Speaker 1: John are the ones that in the event the starter

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Speaker 1: goes down, the level of production doesn't drest lye fall off.

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Speaker 1: So I see no problem with Wayne Goldman getting a

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Speaker 1: few extra reps and a few extra touches in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season, given he is also an

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Speaker 1: extremely young player who doesn't have a great deal of

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Speaker 1: experience unders And by the way, I'll check in with

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Speaker 1: this now just for funds and were talking about Barkley.

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Speaker 1: We didn't ender with him before the year, and this

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Speaker 1: is where we set the over under for Barkley, we

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Speaker 1: had him at two hundred and seventy carries. How many

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Speaker 1: does it have right now? He's got two oh nine, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I think if he gets twenty carries each in

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Speaker 1: the last three games, that's right on the money. So

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Speaker 1: I think our number of carries was about right for him. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we had him for eleven hundred and ninety yards now rushing,

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Speaker 1: so he's he's gonna eclipse that pretty easily because we

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Speaker 1: had him at four point four yards per carry around.

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Speaker 1: He's at five point four yards per carries. We want

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Speaker 1: above and beyond in that six touchdowns rushing, he has

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Speaker 1: nine already above and beyond that. We had him for

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Speaker 1: sixty eight catches, he's already above that. And we had

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Speaker 1: him for six hundred seventy five yards receiving already above that.

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Speaker 1: So at least for me, he's blown away the expectations. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the fact that he is in

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Speaker 1: position to shatter the rookie record for most receptions by

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Speaker 1: a running back, I think Reggie Bush, if I'm correct,

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Speaker 1: John has the record, which was just over eighty, just

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Speaker 1: below nine they think he had Maybe I believe Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 1: That was his mark, and I remember when we were

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey's probably putty close on that. McCaffrey, I think hat

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Speaker 1: about eighty one or a D two last season, and

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Speaker 1: I remember Alvin Kamara also, I think had about eighty one.

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Speaker 1: And I remember having conversations with you in the off

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Speaker 1: season and I said, boy, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very difficult for sake quant to get in that same

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Speaker 1: ballpark of McCaffrey and Kimara and the rational being I

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Speaker 1: thought the Giants had more weapons to spread the wealth. John,

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Speaker 1: that was where I was coming from. Now you know

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Speaker 1: who knew that there were gonna be some injuries here

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Speaker 1: or there, And then Ingram hasn't really been at exactly sure,

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Speaker 1: he's been out of the lineup, so that's one less

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Speaker 1: guy that Sa Kuan has to worry about. But he

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Speaker 1: is going to completely i think, run past Kimara McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming he's gonna run past Reggie Bush as well.

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Speaker 1: So when you put his numbers in perspective, and Maco

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Speaker 1: and our producer kind enough to put some interesting historical

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Speaker 1: tidbits here. So as I mentioned earlier, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson had thirteen games where he had at least

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Speaker 1: a hundred scrimmage yards, so that was in Night three.

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Speaker 1: Barkley now has twelve. He's going to you assume moved

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Speaker 1: past Dickers in an entering James and the Colts had

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Speaker 1: twelve and nineteen ninety nine. And then his long touchdowns

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Speaker 1: most for a rookie five scrimmage touchdowns of at least

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Speaker 1: fifty yards um. That passes Randy Moss from back in nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, And uh, Billy Houghton of the nineteen fifty

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Speaker 1: two Packers. I know there's all Billy Houghton jerseys, and

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Speaker 1: I remember him more touchdowns as it only has six

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Speaker 1: more touchdowns. I guess Moss had. Did Moss also a five?

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Speaker 1: And nt he also had five? Okay? Two four or five?

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Speaker 1: One three? Back to the phone's John Pennsylvania line four?

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Speaker 1: What's up, Joe? A great game, great winn to talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys might take from it yesterday to uh,

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Speaker 1: do you think I don't think the Jets are the

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Speaker 1: Browns would seeing Barkley now they'd won him and give

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Speaker 1: up their quarterback because I guess quarterbacks. You don't think so,

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Speaker 1: do you Joe I I, And and this is not

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Speaker 1: it's it's a fine question. And I don't want you

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Speaker 1: to make you think I'm taking this out on you.

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Speaker 1: But anybody that's trying to decide in week fifth or

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Speaker 1: week thirteen or fourteen of these guys rookie years, who

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Speaker 1: picked the right player is stupid because we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: know for another three years. Who knows what Barkley is

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing in three years. Who knows what Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald is gonna be doing in three years? You don't know.

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Speaker 1: Making any judgments on any of these rookie quarterbacks, especially

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Speaker 1: after one season, just doesn't make any sense. So no, Frankly,

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks are so important. The Browns right now would

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Speaker 1: in trade Baker Mayfield for anybody in the draft last year,

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Speaker 1: And and and and that's all I'm saying. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the Jets feel about Sam Donald. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they still have a lot of faith in him and

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Speaker 1: the belief in him. But to me, that's where we stand.

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Speaker 1: So Barkley is great. The Giants to throw to have him,

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Speaker 1: it's he's a fantastic running back. But you know, position

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Speaker 1: importance with quarterbacks specifically still trumps everything right, right whatever.

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Speaker 1: On the We're very happy with Barkley, and I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: the consensus around the country we took the right player,

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Speaker 1: the best player in the draft, you know, so the

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Speaker 1: best play in the draft for sure. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody would argue that. He's yeah, no question right now

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Speaker 1: going on on. We guess they, uh, you know, that

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Speaker 1: was a great path Eli through there down the sidelines

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Speaker 1: the Shepherd there. That reminds me of the one for

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Speaker 1: Mario in the Super Bowl. He threw it to him,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, Joe, Joe real quick. That

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Speaker 1: was actually a Corey Coleman, the one, the one down

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Speaker 1: to the three yard line. That was an absolute rainbowed

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Speaker 1: that in there, you know, and I made it really

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Speaker 1: was a great well, you know what, Joe and I

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Speaker 1: don't need to cut off electric continue. I think you

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Speaker 1: may be referring to to me the manning to rush

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Speaker 1: o Shephard touchdown passed was a rocket right over the middle.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really good throw too. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if you were referring to that play, but

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Speaker 1: that one deserves to mention as well. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: was playing great, but what you could see yesterday the

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Speaker 1: change in the game. We dominated the game until the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and you could see the difference. And I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take it away when when a mobile

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Speaker 1: quarterback came in against our defense, that little time he

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Speaker 1: had in there, they just brought him in to what

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Speaker 1: he did by you know, being able to run the

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Speaker 1: ball around the end. Then that I mean the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I hope you like stays in the three years, but

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Speaker 1: could you could you see a mobile quarterback there, you know,

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Speaker 1: running the pistol or something with Barkley, just to come

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Speaker 1: in and break it up when things ain't moving. I

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Speaker 1: want a quarterback that can complete pass us from the pocket. Anything.

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Speaker 1: Understand that, But that that it just adds another demension.

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Speaker 1: Those guys don't giant. Those guys don't last. You might

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Speaker 1: do it for a game, you might do it for

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Speaker 1: two games. You might even do it for six games.

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Speaker 1: How many times is la more Jackson left games of

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Speaker 1: injuries already? It's just you care if they got hurt

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Speaker 1: or not. It's just bringing them in for a series

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Speaker 1: to break it up, to give the team. But you

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Speaker 1: also need to worry about Joe. That that could also

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Speaker 1: influence and impact the momentum of a team offensive. When

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Speaker 1: you take a quarterback and I want to keep I

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Speaker 1: think it would be a benefit and I and I

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Speaker 1: think it would keep e lying around here longer, and

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Speaker 1: I want to keep him here along yere around there. Well,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think you need another quarterback to keep

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that's mobile. And you know our defense is

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Speaker 1: got to prepare for him, and it's gonna make it

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Speaker 1: a lot harder. And in the draft this coming year.

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Speaker 1: I you know, our offensive players are fine. I just

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Speaker 1: beef up the defensive line rushing in the offensive line. So,

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Speaker 1: but you could see if you could get a chance

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Speaker 1: for a mobile quarterback to come in the break up.

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Speaker 1: I think, Joe, isn't Kyle letta mobile quarterback? Thank you, Jo,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the men have a chance to answer my question.

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Speaker 1: Isn't Kyle a Letto mobile quarterback? I mean, you saw

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Speaker 1: Kyle A lett out there. Isn't he going to give

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00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: you some mobility? Well, you mean you surprised nobody called

641
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: in to uh make that type of both claiming him

642
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: chucking and ducan when he had fresh heir in his face. Well,

643
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: but he's a mobile quarterback. John, I've been told he's

644
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. No, I told misinformation here. So all

645
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying is out there's alette expert. You have mobile

646
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the rosters. So what you gotta go on again?

647
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: A mobile quarterback? When you have a mobile quarter And

648
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: by the way, you sold he did against the Redskins defense.

649
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: For all those guys out there that wanted to put

650
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: him in a half time in the Bears game, how

651
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: how do you think that would have went? Yeah? It

652
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: was rough, which just goes to show you that, listen,

653
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks need reps. I don't think anybody's gonna disagree

654
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: with you there. But if you think that you just

655
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: magically throw a quarterback, a young quarterback out to the

656
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Wolves and he executes the perfection, I think that's a

657
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: complete myth. He could have thrown three and deceptions. There

658
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: was one that was bounced around and dropped so easily

659
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: could have had another interception. And this is not us

660
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: taking shots of Kyle and all the way. He's a

661
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: rookie fourth round pick. That's what you expect to see

662
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: from a rookie fourth round pick. In his first appearance,

663
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: he did his best. He's here every night when I'm leaving.

664
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: He's there eating dinner with the coaches, He's working his

665
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: butt off. He's a good kid. I think he can

666
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: be a player in this league. Whether it's a starter

667
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: or as a backup, we'll see who knows. But guys,

668
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: this is why it was always for the people that

669
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: thought that the team would play better because you put

670
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: Kylo letton instead of Eli Manning, it was always idiotic.

671
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: And I think you saw yesterday. Why now, if you

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: want to just see him to see him, fine, I

673
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: get that. I totally get it. Understand your point and

674
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: why you would want to do it, no argument with that.

675
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: But for some of the people, um that would make

676
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: the point they have been a chance of winning with

677
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: him out there, it was always an assinine point. And

678
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: I think we saw yesterday why well, and here's another thing.

679
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said, John. So

680
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: he attempted five passes, did not complete any of them.

681
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I would still say you can still not run with

682
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: any judgments about Kyla let up after those five there's

683
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: no I'm just making that clear. I know I'm staying

684
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: the obvious. And the other thing is that let's say

685
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: this is his only opportunity this season again on the field,

686
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen in the final three games,

687
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: but you certainly i'd be surprised to see this team

688
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: jump out to a forty nothing lead in each of

689
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: the next three games. And right now, mathematically they are

690
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: technically still alive for a wild card. The Viking games

691
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: tind of actually pretty important with that. So with that

692
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: being said, you figure, as Pat Shermer mentioned, they're going

693
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: out these final three games they want to win. Eli

694
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be under center. If all Kylo Letta got

695
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: was these five pass attempts at the second half of

696
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: the Redskins game, anybody who thinks that they know him

697
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: backwards and forwards and what he could do moving forward

698
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: once again is selling you a bunch of bs, because

699
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any validity behind that statement. Just

700
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: how can you get a read on a guy after

701
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: five pass attempts? Richie in Long Island, He's up next?

702
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: What's up, Richie? Good to hear from you. Ritchie going once?

703
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Ritchie a man of very few words. Hold man, we'll

704
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: try to get him back in the second. Let's move

705
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: on to Antonio Manhattan. In the meantime, Antonio. What's up, Buddy? Antonio?

706
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: And Lance? How's everything going with you? Guys? Were good? Man?

707
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm happy as hell, man because the

708
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: Giant came up with a win and they were dominating

709
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Giants football win. So that's something that feel really good about.

710
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Feel really good about how Eli Manny played, which I've

711
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: been a tough credit for him this entire year. Um,

712
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: I just going to tell you, guys, wanted to do

713
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: sa Koon Barkley. You guys mentioned you know, what's really

714
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: exciting to me about say Kon Barkley is that this

715
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: kid was training for the draft the entire off season

716
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: last year and he's still putting up crazy numbers this

717
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: late in the season. So this kid is gonna be

718
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: fresh from you know, hopefully rest better rested off season,

719
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: and he's gonna come next year and put up even

720
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: better numbers, hopefully. You Antonio, Here's the thing, he actually

721
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: said last year that he didn't do a ton of

722
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: like combine training. He trusted his athleticism where he didn't

723
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: do with ton of that. So I'm not sure how

724
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: much he did. It's a good question. I have to

725
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: go back and look at some of the quotes. I

726
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: think I am him saying something like that. But look,

727
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: he's been as good as advertised and quite frankly like

728
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: at this point. And you know, I gave you some

729
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: of the things I thought we weakness is coming out

730
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: of the draft. Uh, those have almost all disappeared. He

731
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: is as complete of a running back as you can find.

732
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Maybe something's in past protection. He can clean up a

733
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: little bit. He's had some trouble actually blocking guys here

734
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: or there. He's been better the last few games. Uh

735
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: maybe short yardage. You know, he can still do a

736
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: little bit better job getting like the third and ones

737
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But that is as nitpicky as

738
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: nitpicky comes. He has been wonderful. Now let me you know,

739
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about with somebody who called in

740
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: and said, you know, they wanted you guys, And I

741
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: agree with you guys, definitely. I didn't want to see

742
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: any Sion Barkley at the at the you know, after

743
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: that game was a blowout. But let's say, for example,

744
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, with the Giants win or lose next week, um,

745
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: the Giants are eliminated of any type of wild card contention,

746
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: do we still wanteld just because he winning rook of

747
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: the Years amoral victory or what do you guys think

748
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? No, Look, you have season ticket holders

749
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: paying for tickets here. I mean they're paying to see

750
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: s Kwon Barkley and you don't This is you know,

751
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: this is in college where you know, guys are you know,

752
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: resting so they don't get hurt before they get their paycheck.

753
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: And you know, you can be on either side of that, Ledger,

754
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I get what the players are doing. I understand it,

755
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: But say Kon Barkley is being paid to play football.

756
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna go out there and play football, right. No,

757
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: but you mentioned before how we don't want him to

758
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: take any unnecessary hit once the season at all. There's

759
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: something to pay for, you know, him to take Antonio.

760
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: If if you went to Pat Shermour and told him

761
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: there was nothing to play for, he'd punch you in

762
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: the head. I'm serious, he would punch you in the head.

763
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna play to win those games. Barkley is gonna

764
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: be on the field. You can make an argument, do

765
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: you maybe limit him in the fourth quarter and you

766
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: maybe put Goldman in a little bit take? But no,

767
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: they they're in a position to start a game. They're healthy,

768
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: say Kwan Barkley is gonna be on the field. Pat

769
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Shermer's not benching anybody. And I've said this a lot

770
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: about this roster, Antonio, this roster's on. You know, these

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: guys barely have any NFL experience. I mean, even Barkley,

772
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: as established as he is, to John's point, there's still

773
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: things he could work on. There's different defenses he's gonna

774
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: be exposed to in the final few games of the season,

775
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: just like you're gonna put Lorenzo Carter and b J

776
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Hill out there and you want to see them develop.

777
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is in the same conversation. I don't care

778
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: whether he's offensive rookie either or not. You need to

779
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: get him these reps. There's no excuse. Two more things

780
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: that I want to just point out. One thing is

781
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: you know everybody's talking about Jamon Brown and hopefully you

782
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: know he's a He's a free agent next yere right.

783
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: We don't have any type of rights. We don't even

784
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: get first bids on him. Correct, That is correct. He

785
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: will be an unrestricted free agents. It's tough because that

786
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: means we're gonna have to, you know, drop a boatload

787
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: of money for him. But hopefully you know, Antonio, Antonio,

788
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: don't act like Jamal Brown is like an All Pro guard.

789
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: But he's gonna he's been playing. He's been You can

790
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: make the argument, or his agent will at least that

791
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: since they got him, he changed the Giant's offensive line.

792
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: Is going to make that. He can make the argument,

793
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he's gonna win the argument. And honestly, Ante,

794
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, if if you watch the coaches take the

795
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: last few weeks, I mean he hasn't. He's been better

796
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: than what patrickal Mammy was. He's not blowing anybody away.

797
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Cool now, I want to talk about it. My UNSWNG

798
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: hero honestly is a larger penny. I mean, this guy,

799
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: the more snaps that he gets, with the exception of

800
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: one game, um, if he's over in the snaps, we've

801
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: won those games, even going back to Week three against Houston.

802
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: So this guy doesn't get enough credit. But I feel

803
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: like he's doing a big difference and I would like

804
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: to see him keep getting that percentage of offensive snaps

805
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: in the game. What do you guys think about him? Well,

806
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: they got penny some carries late in the game and

807
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. An Tonio, thanks for weighing in

808
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: because of the fact that the game was so out

809
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: of hand that they were at least able to run

810
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: him a few times. Yeah, I think there's been productivity

811
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: when he's been lined up as a fullback. I also

812
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: think Penny's versatile because he could catch the ball in

813
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: the backfield. And you know when John and I were

814
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: talking about the difference when they put two tight ends

815
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: out on the field, well, the same thought processes when

816
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: they put Penny on the field. They figure he's a

817
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: bigger body guy. It exposes the Giants to now defenses

818
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: that are not used to seeing that type of personnel,

819
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: and therefore they've been successful on pat Shermer. If you

820
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: go back he spoke to the media on Friday, and

821
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Sherman was asked about Elijah Penny getting more and more

822
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: playing time, and he has said, I have always valued

823
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: the fullback no matter what offense I've run, and I

824
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: will always try to keep a fullback on the roster.

825
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: That's why when Red Ellison was on the Vikings, he

826
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: utilized him that way. But he also said, and when

827
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: he's had conversations with members of the media. This goes

828
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: back to John If you remember, during the preseason and

829
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: training camp, he has specifically said, if a fullback is

830
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna be on my roster, he better be able to

831
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield. Penny fits that bill,

832
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: so it should not surprise you that he's on the

833
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: roster and they're utilizing him. Speaking of unsung heroes, by

834
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: the way, John, before we get back to the phones,

835
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: one of my unsung heroes is a guy that we

836
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: didn't bring up. How about the play of Antonio Hamilton's

837
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: by the way, in each of the last two games,

838
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: that is now the second straight week he's been involved

839
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: in a play where he's helped down the football inside

840
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: the opposing five yard line, and you want to talk

841
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: about complimentary football, John, Right after that special teams play,

842
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: you back up Mark Sanchez near the end zone and

843
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: what happens. Curtis Riley gets the pick six because it

844
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: shortens the field, that puts pressure on the opposing offense

845
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: and they get a defensive touchdown. So special teams, whether

846
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: it be the return game and coverage, deserves a lot

847
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: of credit. Over the last few weeks, second half of

848
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: the season that has changed the tone of this season

849
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: as well. And I think the other offensive guy that's

850
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: an unsung hero has to be Scott Simonson. I think

851
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: he's been a much better blocker than I thought, um

852
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: he was coming out of training camp. He had those

853
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: penalties against the Bears, which you don't like, but he

854
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: still made some good blocks in that game. And he

855
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: again he had one of the key blocks that sprung

856
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: Barkley on a seven yard touchdown running the game on Sunday,

857
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: So that would be one of my own sung heroes

858
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: as well. Let's go to Richie in Long Island and

859
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: remember Big Book Off Live is brought to you by

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861
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Speaker 1: amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Hey, Richie's Richie? How much? So?

862
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: I went to go see the Estens game and it

863
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: was a lot better turnout than watching the Phillies at

864
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: watching the Philly game in Philly, Ritchie, and even better

865
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: by halftime it looked like you're in Giant Stadium with

866
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: all the blue jerseys in the crowd. Oh my god,

867
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: it was. It sounds like a home game and honestly,

868
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the um but Lance, how you brought up about Curly Curvis,

869
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: Riley Bean when you're on sung heros was Toryo Hamilton's

870
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: did my own sung Hero? But we'll throw Riley into

871
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: the conversation. Good pick um just saying that, you know,

872
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: he's had his his um turnovers. You know, he's had

873
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: his interceptions, but I feel like I've seen so many

874
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: times him missing tackles or getting beating coverage throughout the season.

875
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: He's had his ups and downs. There's no doubt about him. Yeah,

876
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: it's and also I guess I should go to the

877
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: same thing with all of those three other trees, you know,

878
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: getting these you know, great turnovers, and you know, I

879
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: think it's I don't know, is it five interceptions? Correct

880
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: had two great games in a row. Yeah, But at

881
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, if he's getting his interceptions

882
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: and turnovers, but you still see him getting being a man,

883
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: and so that kind of things. By the way, Richie,

884
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I want to throw one other thing out the the

885
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Ogle tree. You know, his interception came off with reflection,

886
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: which to me is is almost as much good fortune

887
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: as it is a great play. The play that I

888
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: was really impressed by was in the Johnson playing that

889
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Tampa two, and he carried Jamison crowd down the middle

890
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: of the field on a post route. Um, I don't

891
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: think he actually got his hand on the football. I

892
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: looked at the coaches. Staple was close, but Crowder didn't

893
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: come up with the catch, and ogle Tree stayed with him,

894
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: running in a straight line down the middle of the field,

895
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: which I thought was very impressive. Yeah. No, I mean,

896
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying by any means he's always getting beat,

897
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: but there's plays where you know, oh yeah, well, well listen,

898
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Richie to your point and John have said, We've said

899
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: this a lot of times. This winning streak is nine.

900
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: They take an advantage of bank up teams. That doesn't

901
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: mean it's not room for improvement. The one thing that

902
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: I've noticed is it's no coincidence the Giants were minus

903
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: four when they were one in seven turnover different original

904
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: plus eight plus nine. Okay, because they're plus five now

905
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: overall in the season. John, So to Richie's points, Yes,

906
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: the defensive takeaways have continually covered up some of the

907
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: shortcomings that you raised in terms of coverage and other issues.

908
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: You said, you said it one and seven there were

909
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: minus four minus two four, So that means since in

910
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: their last five games there plus thirteen? Is that what

911
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: you plus last thirteen I have? You'd have to do

912
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: the numbers that the second five games, No, you did?

913
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: Are they plus nine overall or plus five overall? Plus

914
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: nine during the winning streak in terms of the four

915
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: and one second half of the season serve So that's

916
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: why they plus five over the Yeah? Yeah, so, and

917
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, things like that just are not sustainable, you know,

918
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: like especially the Giants these past few weeks. I've been

919
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: playing you know, better competition. You know that's running the ball,

920
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, things like that, but then seeing the defense

921
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: bail and now as well as if you know been

922
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: I will say this, on one side of the equation,

923
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you. You're taking advantage of banged up teams.

924
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel, Mark Sanchez, Nick Mullins. Okay, so the defense

925
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: has cashed in on that. On the other side, though,

926
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: you can argue, Richie, they were running the football against

927
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: two respectable run defenses each of the last two weeks.

928
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with Mark Sanchez, Nick Mullins

929
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: or Chase Daniel. So credit is due where credit is due.

930
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: At the same time, I understand you don't want to

931
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: crown the team. I'm with you there, But they're running

932
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: the football again. I mean that Bears rushing defense that

933
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: was number two in the NFL entering last week, the

934
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: Redskins number nine. They've solved to top ten rushing defenses

935
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: in each of the last two weeks. That has nothing

936
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: to do with the backup quarter Yeah, definitely, definitely not

937
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: with the Bears game. You know, that's incredible. Just seemed

938
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: that that was, you know, basically my playoff game for

939
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: this year, just seeing them win that because to be

940
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: able to be one of the best defenses we can

941
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: argue in the in the league because it was phenomenal.

942
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: But um, just some quick thing. I'm n got some

943
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: ne experience and everybody who's you know, put him in

944
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: put him in. Clearly Sherman knew what he was talking

945
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: about that, you know, at least far from ready. Well,

946
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: thank you, Richie. We've talked about that a lot that

947
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: I think when the team struggles and appreciate the phone

948
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: call Ritchie. Everybody's looking for a quick fix. And I've

949
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: said this multiple times, there's more to an offense and

950
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: how it functions than just the quarterback and whether or

951
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: not the quarterback can run out of the pocket and

952
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: extend place. What was the phrase that Patch Frum using

953
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: around six times during the press conference today. Everything's connected.

954
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: Everything's connected to play the quarterback has everything to do

955
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: with how the offensive line plays, how you running the football.

956
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: And guys, I want to tell you something else. And

957
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: this is the point we made in the first half

958
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: of the year. And have you heard us sit here

959
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: once during the show and say the Giants are on

960
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: this winning street because of Eli Manning. No, it's a

961
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: team effort. Eli has played well, here's the kicker. You know,

962
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: I might have played his best game in the game

963
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: that the Giants lost in the second half of the year.

964
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: We're two yards and the other four giant winds. He

965
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: failed to eclipse two hundred fifty yards in any of

966
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: those games. Again, that's not saying that Eli Manning's not

967
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: playing well or he's not part of the reason they're winning.

968
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: But the same way, he's only part of the reason

969
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: they're winning now. When they were losing all those games,

970
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: he was only part of the reason they were losing

971
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: all those games. It's not all on the quarterback. Listen

972
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: to what Lance said minus four, it's a plus five.

973
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. Running the ball consistently.

974
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm not running the ball consistently in your first

975
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: seven eight weeks. Big part of it, special teams, special

976
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: teams play, Corey Coleman, becoming the kickoff returner, doing a

977
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: better job in punt coverage. You mentioned Antonio Hamilton's the

978
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: defense getting the takeaways. You're getting more pressure on the

979
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: quarterback the opponents, like Milance mentioned, has a lot to

980
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: do with it. Three out of the last four teams

981
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: you've played backup quarterbacks. Heck, throw on Tampa Bay if

982
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: you want quarterback. So you saw two quarterbacks in that

983
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: game too, So yeah, that has something to do with it,

984
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: no question about it. But it's all together. It's a

985
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: team's sport. It's not just on the quarterback. It just isn't.

986
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: I know, you guys don't want to hear that, and

987
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: it drives you knots because it doesn't make things as

988
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: simple and you can't put in a nice little box

989
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: like you want. But it's not all on the quarterback

990
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: all the time, whether the team wins or loses. He's

991
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: a big part of it, the biggest part of it

992
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: of any individual player. But a lot of conditions affect

993
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: whether or not a quarterback can succeed, and the conditions

994
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: around Eli Manning have improved a lot over the last

995
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: five games. Frankly, I still think he's playing the same way.

996
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing any better. I think it's

997
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: the same guy. The conditions are just better around them.

998
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: Execution results are different. That's all. Five. One, three. Let's

999
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: go back to the phones. Who's up next? Charlie in

1000
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Portland means been holding the longest, and Len and then

1001
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Rob you'll wrap us up. Charlie, what's up? That's good

1002
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: that he's been holding the longest. Hey, guys, how you doing?

1003
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: Do we have to listen to Lance when he's right? No? No, no, no, no,

1004
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: it's painful. So you were very pessimistic before the game

1005
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: yesterday went back on your Yeah, you're right, that's a

1006
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: good point, John. I did notice that little. I knew

1007
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: we were going to beat down. Oh you sounded like it. Yeah,

1008
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: to help Joe out in Pennsylvania. What are he's what

1009
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: are he was talking about? He's looking at the New

1010
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and he's looking at the quarterback they bring in,

1011
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: and Charlie, you know what every time I see Tastom

1012
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: Hill in the game. And if I was a Saints fans,

1013
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, do you really want to

1014
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: take the ball out of Bredew Brees hands? That's exactly

1015
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: what I say. And I have Drew on my fantasy team,

1016
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: so you know, okay, you know, and they're bringing a

1017
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: guy in that, uh say, you know he's done pretty

1018
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: well when he has gone in there, but you know,

1019
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: I want to see well, but see, I would argue, Charlie,

1020
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: I would say that Tasom Hill. And I've watched a

1021
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: lot of Saints games this season. I think he's actually

1022
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: made more of an impact on special teams that he's

1023
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: had necessarily on offense. And as as far as Lamar

1024
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Jackson goes, go back and watch those Ravens games, by

1025
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: the way, because I know you have a lot of hands,

1026
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: You have a lot of time on your hands, so

1027
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: you study film like the best. Go and look at

1028
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: how animated Joe Flacco is when they tell him to

1029
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: go line up as a wide receiver and they go, yeah, Joe,

1030
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: go sell yourself as a wide receiver. So you convinced

1031
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: the defensive actor defend you. Yeah, that that helped the

1032
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: offense an awful lot. Charlie. Yeah, hey, I agree, I wouldn't.

1033
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it if I was the coach, I

1034
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that at all. But hey, I mean this

1035
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: week was it was a great win. But you know

1036
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: what we did against the Bears defense, and you saw

1037
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: the Rams last night. Bears defense and Gurley got nothing

1038
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: they could offense da their soul well. And honestly, Charlie,

1039
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really try to run the ball either, which

1040
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: was part of the problem. Yeah, that's true. But just

1041
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: just our team, our offensive line has improved so much

1042
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball against a team

1043
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: like the Bears, who is the best defense pretty much

1044
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: at least number two at that time, and to do

1045
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: what we did is just amazing. It just shows how

1046
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: far our team has coming. If we had just beaten

1047
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: stupid Philadelphia a couple of games ago, you know, we

1048
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: would have been in a sick of this thing. And

1049
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: of course, you know, Tilly can't beat Dallas. If that

1050
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: was us playing Philly, that guy would have knocked the

1051
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: ball up in the air, hit it over to a

1052
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: guy who was over in the corner, and he would

1053
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: have ran ninety yards down the other side, and they

1054
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: would have scored won the game to us. Remember remember, though, look,

1055
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: you're not gonna win every close game at the end.

1056
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: You win some close games at the end, you lose

1057
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: some close games at the end. That's the way the

1058
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: league goes. So you can easily go back and say, well,

1059
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: if you won this close game, in this close game,

1060
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: you'd be here. You'd be here to be here. That's

1061
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: the way the league works. Though. That's a good point.

1062
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna win some close games, You're gonna lose some

1063
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: close games. And we've seen that in the past with

1064
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: the Giants. They want a bunch of close games. They

1065
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: win their ten games or they part of me. Then

1066
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: last year they lost with their close games, with their

1067
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: three and thirteen. Then you know that that kind of

1068
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: determines what your record is gonna be in the league

1069
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: year and year at you know what I mean. Yeah,

1070
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: things tend to balance out. I think that's a great

1071
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: point by John, and I've referenced the two thousand sixteen

1072
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: season a lot I brought up this offseason. Charlie. You

1073
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: know you could play the game of, well, what happens

1074
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: if they don't win some of those other close games,

1075
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: they all of a sudden become an eight and eight

1076
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: team and you're not playing the Packers in the wild

1077
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: card round. So I mean, we could revisit and play

1078
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: revisionist history, which is about every Giant season and the

1079
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: ones that went well you could say could have easily

1080
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: went in the opposite direct. And remember, and I will

1081
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: say this too about the Giants offense against the Bears,

1082
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: the only game three hundred and thirty eight yards. Well,

1083
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: you had a defensive touchdown that made up for some

1084
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: scoring right there. You gotta take that into consideration, and

1085
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: you had some other takeaways in that game, so they

1086
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: were able to shorten the field. They didn't have to

1087
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: march down the field to put together eighty to nine

1088
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: dr drives throughout the Remember in the first half of

1089
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: that game, Trolley, the Giants could have easily been down

1090
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing if not for alec ogletrees to interceptions. So

1091
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: that would have changed that game an awful lot and

1092
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 1: it shows you and I talked about those of Eli

1093
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: on our pregame show. It was I thought he was

1094
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: really good on the interview, and you know, he made

1095
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the point that you know, a game can go one

1096
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: way or the other based on these random players. Early

1097
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: in the game, you have one second and three you know,

1098
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: you miss a de pass, you get sacked at short

1099
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: circus with drive that otherwise could have went for a touchdown,

1100
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: and it can change the whole ten or of the game.

1101
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just the way the NFL works.

1102
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: It really comes down to a few plays here and

1103
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: there over the course of the game. When you're playing

1104
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: close games against good teams. Now look the Redskin game,

1105
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: that's not the case because they destroyed them by a

1106
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: billion points. But for every other game where it's within

1107
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: a score too, a few players going one way or

1108
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: the other over the course of the game can change everything.

1109
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: And that's why teams can jump from three and thirteen

1110
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: to in six from one year to the next. That's

1111
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: why it works that way. Well, that's the thing is

1112
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: our first eight games, Uh, it was only one game

1113
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: that we were really out of in one one score.

1114
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: We lost six of those games by less than one score.

1115
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: I will say this though, to Trolley. A couple of

1116
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: those games they wore to score games late and the

1117
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Giants scored garbage time touchdowns to make it a one

1118
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: score game late in the fourth quarter, So just remember

1119
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. And the thing is with with the

1120
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Bears game. We we had control of that game all

1121
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: the way through except for the last That's true. That's

1122
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: absolutely true, you know, so that that should have never happened,

1123
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: but it did. But we wont say gud But anyway,

1124
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: but anyway, the team is getting better. Um, I mean,

1125
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: we get some holes and hopefully back when we'll be

1126
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: back next week. Um, we should be able to beat

1127
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: the Titans at home and that they're not gonna sit

1128
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: Barkley for anything because we the last game of the

1129
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: year is against Dallas. And if that's not gonna you

1130
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: want to eat Dallas, and they might. We might beat

1131
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: them and kick them out of the playoffs, just Tarlie

1132
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: at this point, Dallas. If Dallas not to make the playoffs,

1133
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: they will have to end the year oh and three

1134
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: and Philly will have to go three and out. So

1135
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: I find that highly unlikely. Um, we'll say, who knows

1136
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: Dallas has Tampa Bay Indianapolis and the Giants. Yeah, yeah,

1137
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: they could lose it. They got to go to Tampa Bay, right,

1138
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure is that home? Is that a home

1139
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: game for Dallas? That? Yeah, Dallas home because they're in

1140
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: Indianapolis two on the road, one and home. Well, if

1141
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: if Tampa Bay can do an upset, I think they

1142
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: can lose in Indianapolis and we're going to beat them

1143
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: at home. Now what I think, I think it's more

1144
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: what's more interesting, Tarlie, is whether or not Dallas is

1145
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: playing for anything in that last week. There's a chance

1146
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: that they might be secured in their playoff spot. Uh,

1147
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: they might not be able to move up to the

1148
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: two seed to get a buy and maybe they you know,

1149
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: can't lose the division, so that might be a deal

1150
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: where you know, the Cowboys aren't playing for anything either,

1151
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how the next couple weeks ago.

1152
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: By the way, the Eagles have the Rams and the Texans. Yeah,

1153
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Charlie appreciate the phocal. It's funny how he looked at

1154
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys schedule. He doesn't take it to consideration. Your

1155
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: other part of the equation is it in Houston or

1156
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: in l a And let me look up where Philly goes.

1157
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: But the other thing that is important to note, and

1158
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: it's just being realistic here, the Cowboys, john are essentially

1159
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: three games up on the Eagles and the Redskins because

1160
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: of the timebreaking Redskins. Well no, but but I mean

1161
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: just based on how the standings say it, where whether

1162
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: or not you give them legiti shot because the Cowboys

1163
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: are four and one in the division. So after you

1164
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: split the season series, you then go to divisional record.

1165
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: No way Washington catches them, and they swept Philadelphia. So

1166
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: when you take all of that and you lay that

1167
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: out on the table, I would say it's gonna take

1168
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: basically armageddon for one of those two teams to surpass

1169
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Eagles had a home against the text

1170
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: and then at Redskins to close out there year. So yeah,

1171
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: that that was by Dallas, which was a really crazy

1172
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: game that I watched it on the I watched it

1173
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: on the on the red zone, anal coming back on

1174
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: the on the train. I saw like the last quarter

1175
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: and a half and then overtime, crazy game, crazy game.

1176
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's pet explosive place here and there. Let's

1177
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: go to Lennon, Columbia, Maryland. He's up next. Hey, how

1178
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: you doing, guys? That was a fun win. Oh you

1179
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: must have enjoyed. Waving bye bye to all those Redskins

1180
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: fans as they left the stadium down thirty four nothing

1181
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: at the half, Mr Lennon, they were filing out of there.

1182
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: Really unbelievable. I mean it was just yeah, you know,

1183
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a shame. I mean it's it's it's a

1184
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: good fan it's a good fan base, and uh, it's

1185
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: just they're they're kind of losing interest. Do you think,

1186
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: Jake do you think? Do you do you think Jadin

1187
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: is going to survive? They were pretty len Do you

1188
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: think Jake Gruden's gonna survive down there? What's your feel? No?

1189
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: Definitely not okay, And I think the journal manager is

1190
00:56:52,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: going to George Allen might go to Bruce. Bruce don't think. Yeah, yeah,

1191
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: there you go listen, UM, signs of signs of progress,

1192
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: and that's what we keep looking for, you know, every week.

1193
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: Two big things that stood out for me yesterday, Lance,

1194
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: you like this, UM a division win on the road? Wow?

1195
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: How long? How long? Business? We want a division game

1196
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: on the road. And secondly, and maybe most importantly in Lance,

1197
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: you spoke to this early on in the UM in

1198
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: the show today. You know that's a game we expected

1199
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: to win. I mean, you know they're playing a backup

1200
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: quarterback and UM, we just expected to win that game

1201
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: and we did. Me that's been a long time since

1202
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: something like that has happened. And you know, that's if

1203
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: we look back at the last three or four games,

1204
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: I know there's been backup, quarterback starting and so forth.

1205
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: But we're winning those games and we're playing well. So

1206
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, for me, that's that's that's progress. Um, I'm

1207
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: not ready to anoint them, but you know, I see

1208
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: progress in the second half, and you know, three games

1209
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: to go, these are good teams we're going to be planning,

1210
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: and so I'm really kind of anxious for those games.

1211
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: I want to see how we do against these three teams.

1212
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: If if we can double the number of wins that

1213
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: we had last year, I've been hoping for seven, which

1214
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: would be four more wins, but uh, you know, we

1215
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: got to home games, start establishing, um, you know, a

1216
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: reputation of this team at home. A lot of things

1217
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: we can see in the next you know, a couple

1218
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: of weeks, next three weeks that you know, we can

1219
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: we can say, hey, this team really made progress. But hey,

1220
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: there's no question they're playing better. But um, let's not

1221
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: let's be careful not to lose sight of where the

1222
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: weaknesses are on this John. I'm really proud that you,

1223
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, made the mention about Brown. Um, yes, he's

1224
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: made a little bit of a difference, but hey, well

1225
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: we're not going to give this guy a ten million

1226
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: dollar contract for one year. What I think. I think

1227
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: we gotta have a feeder system of players to come

1228
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: in and you don't make us better, make us good

1229
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: enough to make the playoffs, right, yeah, look right, and

1230
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: and and then we gotta run calls back later in

1231
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: the week. Thanks you, I appreciate, thank you. Oh yeah,

1232
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I got one more car I want to get to

1233
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: And I think he makes a point, Lance, and I

1234
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: think that's an important one. You're closing the year, well,

1235
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the first eight games didn't happen. You

1236
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: don't just say well, they closed the year strong. So

1237
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: that means, you know that if they played sixteen games

1238
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: next year and they went six and two in the

1239
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: second half, it means they're going twelve and four. That's

1240
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: not how this works either. So you still have to,

1241
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, pick out the parts of this team, and

1242
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: I'd like you to add anything you might have, But

1243
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: the parts that I would focus on is the right

1244
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: side of the offensive line, right tackle specifically. I think

1245
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: you have to look for pass restaurant defense. I think

1246
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: you have to continue to slist solidify the inside linebacking corps.

1247
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: And then I think in you're looking for a free safety,

1248
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: and I think you're looking for one or two corners,

1249
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you're looking for when you

1250
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: get to the off season terms of where you're trying

1251
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: to solidify this roster. Yeah, and then I think it

1252
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: also depends on what happens with the receiving corps, because

1253
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you maintain depth there. Some

1254
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna be free agents and only

1255
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: on one year deals. And then by the way, you

1256
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: have to figure out. You know, you don't have to

1257
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: replace Eli Manning next year, but he's done the last

1258
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: year of his contract. He's gonna be thirty eight next season.

1259
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: What's next thing. Yeah, you're not under pressure that we

1260
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: have to do it, but you have to start thinking

1261
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: about and it doesn't necessarily have to only come through

1262
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: the draft. It could be a veteran quarterback that you

1263
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: choose to bring in to help grow Mikayol Aletta and

1264
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: perhaps be in competition for the success or role. Like

1265
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: Harry Collins. Similar example that was build the bridge, unique

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Speaker 1: situation where he was only available for a specific reason.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you might not get something like that again, but

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Speaker 1: that type of concept where you got to Eli from

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Speaker 1: Kerry Collins, you know what I mean. So we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, final call Robin and Chester, Rochester?

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Speaker 1: Where is he from? Robin Rochester? Sorry about that, little Rob?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Yes? Hey, is this the complaint Department? Yes

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Speaker 1: it is. We are always open. Rock nice yesterday, guys.

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Speaker 1: It was great to see finally everybody put three phases together.

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Speaker 1: We got everything going. Everybody was on the same page.

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Speaker 1: All the xs and os were in place. Is really

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Speaker 1: nice football? Complimentary football? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Bring it to

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Speaker 1: my point here. I think a lot of Giants fans

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: were so uh entrenched in looking at personnel all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of drives me nuts that these coaches don't

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Speaker 1: get the credit they deserved to do exactly that, to

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Speaker 1: put the xs and os out on the field in

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Speaker 1: the right positions and makes play and Rob even more importantly,

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Speaker 1: doing it with a bunch of guys that have showed

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Speaker 1: up without being here in the spring, in the summer.

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Speaker 1: I mean these are guys that have shown up mid

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Speaker 1: season and they're coming in their playing I mean they

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Speaker 1: were right now. If you don't include Beckham and Collins,

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Speaker 1: you both missed this last game. There were fourteen players

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Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday that were on the Giants

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Speaker 1: roster last year four teen. Well, I'm thinking about the

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Speaker 1: starting roles right now. Spencer Polly is your starting center.

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Speaker 1: He was a late claim. Corey Coleman has been with

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Speaker 1: the team for a few weeks, your mom Brown. Tonio

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's was a late claim. He's been chipping in with

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Speaker 1: special teams. Men. There's at least five or six guys

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Speaker 1: that have playing. Elijah Penny is another guy he wasn't

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Speaker 1: with the team originally the roster. There you go Mario Edwards,

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Speaker 1: who has had some flashes here on the defensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of credit in terms of them

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Speaker 1: being coached up. There's no doubt about a rob Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those years where you don't really

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Speaker 1: have to talk about depth too much. Last several years,

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Speaker 1: especially under Mac and Do even late Tom Cokland era

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Speaker 1: where we were saying, hey, you know, our depth is

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Speaker 1: garbage every time somebody goes down, Oh, who's the next

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Speaker 1: guy up? I mean, the next guy up underperforms this

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: time around. It seems like all of a sudden, everybody's

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Speaker 1: kind of doing their jobs and doesn't matter. I see

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Speaker 1: a lot of names out there, a numbers. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: heck is this guy? And then the next thing, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: that guy just way to play again. You know you're

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Speaker 1: hearing these numbers calling these names called or even better

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: not called for making a mistake. That's that you don't

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Speaker 1: see often, and it's nice to see. Like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: everybody getting coached up, xs and ohs are all in place.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to go down to,

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Speaker 1: you know, running the new defensive schemes, specifically running that

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Speaker 1: three or four hybrid style thing is really working out

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Speaker 1: good for us. I was, I was, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had interrepidation at first when when that was you know,

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Speaker 1: announced that that was gonna be the new scheme. But

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Speaker 1: I thought about it and I said, you know, we

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Speaker 1: run just like everybody else. We run nickel all the

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Speaker 1: time for the most part. More everybody has too, because

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Speaker 1: there's so many three white sets out there. Um, so

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Speaker 1: it's nice to see us, you know, sticking in a

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Speaker 1: guy here, sticking to the guy there running the X

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Speaker 1: and o's, and the defensive line. We're running stunts all

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Speaker 1: over the place. We're running twists, all these creative ways

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Speaker 1: to get pressure from the edge. It's great. They never

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Speaker 1: see us coming and we're pressure in the quarterback for

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Speaker 1: once in the last several years with basically the same type,

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Speaker 1: if not the same personnel. We're with you. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having the call, buddy, We appreciate it, and I think

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Speaker 1: going forward, it is a lot easier to find out

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Speaker 1: of college three four outside linebacking, outside linebacker, pass rushers

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Speaker 1: than traditional four three defense events, just kind of the

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Speaker 1: way it is now. Now everybody in college runs three

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Speaker 1: fours because of the spread, they don't run four threes

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Speaker 1: as much. So yeah, look you gotta something into town

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Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, no question about it. Um. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: playing the quarterbacks they have the last five weeks, I

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Speaker 1: think has probably made the past rushing a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: It's if you look at the sack leaders, guys, you

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Speaker 1: always see the best quarterbacks on the bottom as they

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Speaker 1: know when they get rid of the football. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you saw Mark Sanchez in this game, he would go

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Speaker 1: back to pass if his first option wasn't there. He

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: would have no he had no idea what to do

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: with the ball. He just duck his head and be like, oh, yeah, well,

1352
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Speaker 1: And that goes to show you, even though he's a veteran,

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01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: has some familiarity with the jargon because the quarterbacks coach

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Speaker 1: with the Jets, Matt Kavanaugh, is now the offensive Korea

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Speaker 1: for the Redskins. Still it's been a few years since

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Speaker 1: he's been in that scheme, so that shows up. And

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing with you know, Chase Daniel and

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Speaker 1: Nick Mullins. Guys, they didn't get a lot of reps.

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Speaker 1: Now the next few weeks she get Marcus Mariota, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck and Dak Prescott, three quarterbacks who have been in

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Speaker 1: their systems and are all starters. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers, are not saying their Hall of famers, but

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Speaker 1: you're in line to face three legitimate starters in the

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Speaker 1: next three games. And I'll be following the Titans by

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Speaker 1: the way of another really good defense too, so it'll

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Speaker 1: be a good challenge. We'll start talking about the Titans

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Speaker 1: starting tomorrow on Big Blue kick off live on giants

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Speaker 1: with Salzburg's in Salzburg and Figal salesperson. That's an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: We'll see it then. I can't top that one.