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Speaker 2: and we're here to give good advice Gooflee, but we

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Speaker 2: so let us know what you would do in the comments.

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Speaker 2: I forty five mail had been in a serious relationship

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Speaker 2: with my boyfriend Sam thirty eight mail for a little

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Speaker 2: over two years until about five months ago. It was

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Speaker 2: a terrible relationship that we should have ended about two

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Speaker 2: I was the answer to his prayers, that we wanted

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Speaker 2: a family with multiple kids, and that he was going

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Speaker 2: to build our dream home, etc. All the typical toxicity

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Speaker 2: for almost our entire relationship, and I supported him, including

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Speaker 2: got him a job at the hospital I worked at.

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Speaker 2: He used my son to emotionally manipulate me, etc. On

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Speaker 2: my side of the story, he would tell one and

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Speaker 2: does that paints me as the villain. I was in

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Speaker 2: town every other week because I have a son that

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Speaker 2: I am with fifty percent of the time who lives

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Speaker 2: in another state. He began bringing men over to the

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Speaker 2: places we were staying Airbnb, mostly paid for by my company,

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Speaker 2: and developing actual relationships with some of them. He told

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Speaker 2: them all the same thing he had been telling me.

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Speaker 2: I had access to his phone and found this out

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Speaker 2: through the messages. I confronted the other parties, and Sam

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Speaker 2: became irate and blamed me for ruining what could have

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Speaker 2: been a great relationship and happiness For him by exposing

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Speaker 2: what was actually happening. Despite what was going on in

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Speaker 2: the cheating, I didn't leave. Of note, I am in

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Speaker 2: a very high stress career and am well put together

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Speaker 2: in everything except romantic relationships. Obviously, through all of that

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Speaker 2: and much much more. Fast forward to five months ago,

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Speaker 2: we reached a breaking point in which I couldn't take

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Speaker 2: the lies and the lack of accountability, and I was

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Speaker 2: spiraling downward because of it. I also couldn't walk away fully.

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Speaker 2: I would leave and go no contact, and he would

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Speaker 2: find some way to reach out. We now worked at

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Speaker 2: the same place, and assure me that he understood why

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Speaker 2: I was so upset and that he saw the light

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Speaker 2: and would change. This happened no less than ten times,

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Speaker 2: and probably a lot more than that. During this time,

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Speaker 2: Sam met Kate twenty nine, female, also through work. She

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Speaker 2: holds a much higher position than Sam, and he used

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Speaker 2: and he was much more successful with the deceit this time.

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Speaker 2: I never met her. They were, of course building a

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Speaker 2: Who is this man? How did you find the literal devil?

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Speaker 3: Does this man understand relationship?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think he understands what

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Speaker 3: Like genuinely, I'm like, Okay, So he's admitted that he

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to date you. Yeah, but he's still dating you.

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Speaker 3: I don't get But he's dating somebody else also, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't get it. I literally don't understand, and that she

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Speaker 2: Sam took Kate to his family lake house. His family

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Speaker 2: all met her and didn't say anything to me, and

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Speaker 2: to either break up with her and maintain appropriate contact

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Speaker 2: to co parent and support her pregnancy, or I would

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Speaker 2: move on. She was supposed to go to another state

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Speaker 2: my birthday dinner. We broke up that night, and true

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Speaker 2: to for him, got back together. When he justified the

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Speaker 2: This revelation, which would have been obvious to anyone except me,

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Speaker 2: also found out that Sam was being intimate with his

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Speaker 2: been for months, and he had multiple other male friends

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Speaker 2: with benefits that he was active with. I finally said

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do it anymore. Yes, and now no contact

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Speaker 2: times two days, which honestly is a record, And I

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Speaker 2: him and fix everything. No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, delete the contact.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I don't think you can stay blocked and delete it.

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Speaker 2: So blocked, blocked, delete everything, all of that.

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Speaker 3: If you delete the contact, block you, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do whatever to delete it. Change the name, change the name,

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Speaker 2: delete it, all of that gone. Never talk to this

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Speaker 2: man again. He is the devil incarnate. Get him out

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Speaker 2: of your life. My question for the hive mind is

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Speaker 2: not about my stupidity. That is clear and on display.

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Speaker 2: Kate believes that she's in a truly monogamous relationship with Sam,

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Speaker 2: that he intends to marry her and have more children

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Speaker 2: as well and maintaining the charade until the baby was born.

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Speaker 2: He is psychotic. Then the baby was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: in addition to our family, per Sam's explanation. He told

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Speaker 2: He tried repeatedly to make me feel guilty for walking away,

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Speaker 2: saying I was refusing to stick it out through our

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Speaker 2: abandon him, bendedema, run get out of here.

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Speaker 3: If this story doesn't end with and I have ever

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I think the question is going to

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Speaker 2: Which I think you should, but as law, only only

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Speaker 2: if you can do it in a way which stills

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Speaker 2: allow you, which still allows you to not have any

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Speaker 3: Yes, fully agreed reaching out to her, keeping him blocked

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Speaker 3: from you that time. And then even if it's fully

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Speaker 3: just here's all the information I know and anonymous too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, honestly block.

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Speaker 3: Her after you can give her the impost she wants

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Speaker 3: and then please, that's it done. She can do what

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Speaker 2: Finally, the question do I contact Kate and tell her

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Speaker 2: what she is actually involved in? I have an ungodly

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Speaker 2: far along as I am in a detaching myself from Sam.

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Speaker 2: outsider looking in. I need outside perspective. Do eye contact

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Speaker 2: Kate only if you have provable, like undeniable evidence that

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Speaker 3: Don't think that it's wrong to even do it without

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Speaker 3: undeniable evidence. I'm sure you have it, but no.

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Speaker 2: My point is more so just like I don't want

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Speaker 2: the like the details that I went through. I don't

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Speaker 2: want the least amount of trace. If you're going to

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Speaker 2: evidence to give her. She's already been brainwashed by him

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Speaker 2: and what she does with that afterwards is on her.

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Speaker 2: But and this is a big butt. Don't do this

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Speaker 2: expecting some cathartic moment or trying to get revenge. You

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Speaker 2: need to let him go. Sounds like you add a

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Speaker 2: codependency issue with him, and doing this to affect him

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Speaker 2: will only feed into that. Given this long term battern

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Speaker 2: of abuse he subjected you to, I would recommend you

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Speaker 2: look into therapy. I hope, he says. I'm in therapy

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Speaker 2: and have been for over a year weekly. There is

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Speaker 2: video from the house security cameras of almost everything between us.

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Speaker 2: There are indoor cameras, But I don't mean to traumatize

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Speaker 3: Let me do it. Yeah, you could just do like

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Speaker 3: a kiss or you know, screenshot of a kiss.

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Speaker 2: Even I don't have evidence of the other people he's

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Speaker 3: I chose to rekindle with my ex, and now she's

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? It's never worked out before?

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Speaker 3: Once she messaged me she told me she was door dashing,

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Speaker 3: told her I've been working on it, but I can't

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00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: change overnight. She acknowledged I didn't ask about an event

439
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: in her life and that's why she messaged me. She

440
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: also told me she wasn't originally going to answer my call,

441
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: and I was lucky that she did. Things calmed down

442
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 3: and seemed to be normal again. I noticed that we

443
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: went from super BFFs on Snapchat to just best friends.

444
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 3: Stop it, stop it, stop it, I will say me

445
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: and Keon's best friend have been in a war for that.

446
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 3: But that's fun.

447
00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: That's fine.

448
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't mind, no, I said, fun.

449
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

450
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 3: Because because most of my steps to him or now

451
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: tell so and so that I'm winning.

452
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm winning a day. Yeah, this is nonsense.

453
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: I mentioned to her how I noticed, and how I'm

454
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: not her number one anymore. She said, well, she must

455
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: not be mine either. I sent screenshots showing she was

456
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: still mine, so I asked who hers was. She said

457
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: it was her nephew's wife. I acknowledged it, and the

458
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: conversation shifted to her telling me about an update to

459
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: her favorite video game. She then said she'd call me

460
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: back because her sister was calling.

461
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: How old are y'all? Yeah?

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: Maybe a musing stapchat things were like the nephews like

463
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: really close in age.

464
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: Or something maybe, but you guys got to be like

465
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: somewhere in your thirties, which is ridiculous for how you're acting,

466
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: both of you. She's obviously a terrible partner lead art.

467
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: About an hour or so later, she messaged saying that

468
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: she'd call and that she didn't mean to offend me,

469
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: but asked if I was leaving Sunday. I told her

470
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 3: I could if that's what she wanted, but originally I

471
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: was going to leave Monday morning. She knew I was

472
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: off until this coming Tuesday. She then said she has

473
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: a lot going on and is stressed. I asked her

474
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: what was stressing her out. She then tells me because

475
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: I didn't give her a plan, her nephew and his

476
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: wife invited her to dinner on Sunday. She said she'd

477
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: tell them no since I couldn't give her my plan.

478
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: I was taken aback. She knew I was coming up

479
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: this weekend and knew I was off until Tuesday. I

480
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: told her she knew I was going to be there

481
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: this weekend, and the only thing I didn't have planned

482
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 3: was everything leading up to it. She said, it's fine,

483
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: it'd be nice if I told her my plans and

484
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: she'd just cancel. I literally told her my step by

485
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: step plan I had for Saturday, but the message wasn't

486
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: opened until the next morning. I woke up to her

487
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: saying she didn't need a step by step, just we'll

488
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: be doing this, and that that response confused me. We

489
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: literally didn't talk much that Thursday. Friday wasn't much different,

490
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: except I asked how trick or treating with her kids went,

491
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: and I was left on red. Come Saturday, I woke

492
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: up at eight am so I could make it to

493
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: the florists to pick up my order. I drove to

494
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: the coffee shop, then headed toward her house. Around ten am.

495
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: I called her, no answer. She called me back and

496
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: it turned out she was still sleeping. I expressed my apologies,

497
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: saying i'd assume she'd be up by then. She said

498
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: it was fine and asked how far out I was.

499
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: I told her ten minutes, and she freaked out. I

500
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: got you didn't tell me the plan or the time.

501
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: My house is a mess, I haven't showered and such.

502
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 3: I felt terrible. But the plan was to show up

503
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: with flowers, her coffee, and a stuffed animal as a surprise.

504
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: I made it to her house and rang the doorbell.

505
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: It took her at a good five minutes to open

506
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: the door. She proceeded to tell me how I failed

507
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: in planning, and slammed her bedroom door. She came back

508
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: out but kept her distance, arms crossed and no eye

509
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: contact whatsoever. We began having a talk about our issues,

510
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: and she told me how she needed me, but I

511
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: can't even call her. How I say things will be

512
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 3: better when I get up there, but since i'm not,

513
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: I have to do what I can through the phone.

514
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: I felt terrible, and I apologized. She said she knows

515
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: she's a lot, and that she told me and that

516
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: I said that was all right. It's true. It's just

517
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: been challenging when things feel off. Also, when I do ask,

518
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: most responses are fine. I gave her a hug and

519
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: reassured her I want to be here for her. This

520
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: long distance is new to me, but I'm trying my best.

521
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: She got dressed and asked what we were doing. I

522
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: told her I had planned to take her to get

523
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: her nails done. She said she goes to a specific

524
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: shop and they're booked for a month. I then told

525
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: her I also thought a spa day would be good.

526
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: She said any other day she'd like that, but not today.

527
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: She sat on the couch, so I sat next to her.

528
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: I gave her a hug again, but she remained closed off.

529
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: I got up and sat on the other couch. She

530
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: appeared deep in thought. I asked her what was on

531
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: her mind, because her arms and legs were crossed and

532
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: we hadn't made eye contact this entire time. No response.

533
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: Then I asked what she would be doing today if

534
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: I didn't show up. She mentioned a lazy day reading

535
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: and such. I asked if she wanted me to leave.

536
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: No response. I asked if she wanted me to stay.

537
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: No response, so I asked her if there was anything

538
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: she needed to tell me about. She got a super

539
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: angry look and stared straight into my eyes. She said,

540
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: what are you getting at. I told her nothing, just

541
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: that she seemed deep in thought and that I was

542
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going on. I mentioned I

543
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: do have insecurities with how things ended last time and

544
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: how I don't want to be hurt again. She then

545
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: told me to leave. I said all right and left

546
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: as I was driving down the road. She then posted

547
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: a provocative picture on her Snapchat, smiling all dressed up.

548
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: I messaged her that the post hurt and that it

549
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: was a low blow. She then proceeded to message back,

550
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: I posted it to prove you're right about me. I'm

551
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: the same person I never changed. Dude, believe this woman

552
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: and stop going back to her for the stink.

553
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: In love of God, why why do we keep going

554
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: back to this lady? There was like you.

555
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: There was a couple things where I was like, Okay,

556
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: ope might be like a little bit overreacting or like

557
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: the snapchat stuff, but like this girl.

558
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: Just doesn't like you like she does into you.

559
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: I told her I knew she wasn't like that anymore,

560
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: but it's not right. She posted that to make me jealous.

561
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: She then said she didn't post it to make me jealous.

562
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: I asked why she posted it. Then, then I messaged,

563
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: wait a minute, does that mean you're talking to someone else?

564
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 3: She said it isn't. I told her I'd be booking

565
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: a hotel by her house if she'd like to talk

566
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: or go on a date later. I drove nine hours

567
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: to see her. I thought they lived an hour.

568
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Y'all live nine hours away.

569
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: This makes sense, Okay. I thought it was an hour

570
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: at one point, but I think that was before she

571
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: wasn't working at the gas station. Okay, okay, okay, I

572
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: resend my thing about an hour. Nine hours is long.

573
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: That's long distance. You're good, you'll.

574
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Live long distance. You'll live. Y'all all are too far

575
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: away to have this messier relationship and work out it's

576
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: not it's not working.

577
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: I drove nine hours to see her, so I wanted

578
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: to try to work through this before I left. That night,

579
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: I was left on read. I called I Won straight

580
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: to voicemail. She did respond when I asked if she

581
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: was doing all right, but mentioned how I ruined the

582
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: entire day. I asked if I could at least bring

583
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: her a coffee in the morning before I left. She

584
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: said no, that I made her really uncomfortable today and

585
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: I disrespected her in her house. I said, all right,

586
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: I'll just head home in the morning and good night.

587
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: Then she messaged me a long text about how it

588
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: hurt her that I brought up her past. I reassured

589
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: her that that's my issue and I want us to work.

590
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: I told her I would start therapy when I got

591
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: home last night. I did email six therapists. Today, she

592
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: messaged me saying she's sorry about what happened. I told

593
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: her she has nothing to be sorry about. I've made

594
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: my choices and I have to deal with the consequences.

595
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: She told me it effects her too. I acknowledged that

596
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: it does, and with everything going on, it was wrong

597
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: for me to add to her stress. She told me

598
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: to drive safe on my drive home. She posted an

599
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: even more provocative pick of her and a skirt. I

600
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: knew she had in her plans, but posting that really

601
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: bothered me. Literally the entire time we've been dating. Again,

602
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: she's never posted picks like that. I looked at the

603
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: Snapchat map again and she was back at the house

604
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: she doordashed out a few weeks prior. I messaged asking

605
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: if she was door dashing again. Dude, do you understand

606
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: how DoorDash works? You don't stay at the one place

607
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: for a long time. Over an hour later, she said yes,

608
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: and then she was off to meet her nephew and

609
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: his wife. However, her location was at Barnes and Noble.

610
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: Then she said they were going to the nephew wife's parents,

611
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: but the map showed she went back to that same house. Afterwards,

612
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: I called and we talked, discussing our issues again. This

613
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: time I also emphasized how uncomfortable the posts are making me.

614
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: It seemed like it was a bit better. Dude, you're

615
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: already tracking her hardcore on SnapMap.

616
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Literally have her location and you can see that she's lying, right,

617
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: and also you have no dress in the vision, right,

618
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: but you can see that she's lying, and you still

619
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: are like, hey, I see that you're lying. What does

620
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: this mean? She goes, she lies, and then you're like, yeah,

621
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: I guess that's true.

622
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't think you understand door dash or Snapchat maps,

623
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: of course. Then she said she was going to bed,

624
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: and we said our good nights. Then I posted on

625
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: my snap about a concert I wanted to see, and

626
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: she was the first to look at it. I thought

627
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: she was in bed. Clicked on her convo and it

628
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: said she was two towns over. So I opened the map.

629
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Then her location turned off. Uh my guy, this better

630
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: end and you being like and I blocked her.

631
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: And I blocked her. I'll never see her again ever again.

632
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: That's that's it. That's all you're allowed to do.

633
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: So I went home the next morning, blocked her and

634
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: never saw the hot It felt really odd. I messaged her,

635
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: are you doing all right? I noticed you were in

636
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: Blaine Town and now your location is off. No response,

637
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: so I texted her at the same message. She then

638
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: messaged me that her nephew's car broke down, her snap crashed.

639
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: She was trying to log back in and it wouldn't

640
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: let her. She said she was heading to get and

641
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: would let me know when she got home. She messaged

642
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: me twenty minutes later, saying she made it home. Honestly,

643
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm starting to question everything and I don't know if

644
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: there's more going on. Am I overthinking or could she

645
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: be cheating on me? Also, sorry, this post is so long.

646
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: This is all new to me. And that's the end

647
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,560
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648
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600
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Speaker 2: I wronged a classmate as a teen, and my karma

653
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: came years later.

654
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 6: This is like the worst kind of revenge to get.

655
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: I was an ahole in high school. I really was,

656
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: and there is no way to sugarcoat it. I was

657
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: mean and nasty, and yes I had my reasons and

658
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: the psychology behind it, but I don't want to detract

659
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: from my actions, so I will not list them here.

660
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Big Advisor for seven

661
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: seven eight, and if you want to sumit your own stories,

662
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay story time subured it.

663
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon.

664
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice. Goofy, but we

665
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do,

666
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: so let us know what you would do in the comments.

667
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: There was a girl in my class, Beth, fifteen female

668
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: when this incident happened, also twenty six female. Now, like me,

669
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: I did not regularly target her, but one particularly memorable

670
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: time I made aloud over the shoulder indirect comment about

671
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: her trying and failing to cover up her bo with

672
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: even more foul smelling perfume or some fifteen year old

673
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: version of a hot dislike that. I know it was

674
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: probably incredibly hurtful, as I had intended it to be.

675
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: During college, I was finally able to go to therapy

676
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: and begin sorting out my issues that led to me

677
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: acting like such an unbearable ale all the time. After

678
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: a lot of work, I reached out to everyone I

679
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: could find on social media that I bullied and sent

680
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: sincere apologies and gift cards based on things I knew

681
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: they liked in high school. My message basically said I

682
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: cannot take it back, but please know I am sorry,

683
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: and if you ever want to talk, even if it

684
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: is too happy, here the ways I negatively affected you.

685
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I am available. Received one of these messages and responded

686
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: by saying she did not want to rehash the past,

687
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: but appreciated me reaching out. Fast forward, post college, I

688
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: moved to a new city and finally start to make

689
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: a friend through work Clara. Clara invites me out to

690
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: drinks with her friend group and I accept. I show

691
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: up to the bar. Clara brings me over to the

692
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: table and guess who's sitting there? Beth. I think I

693
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: did a full double take because she had changed a lot,

694
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: but I was nearly one hundred percent sure it was her.

695
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: I was immediately sweating. I genuinely think I blacked out

696
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: from anxiety and guilt. The only thing I remember is

697
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: Beth got introduced to me with Beth. This is Anna,

698
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: she asked Anna, and I think she blacked out writing

699
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: this part too, probably I think she's trying to say

700
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: when she got introduced to Beth. Beth was like, oh

701
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: is this Anna? And Opie's friend was like, yeah, this

702
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: is this is opee Anna. My friend said yes because

703
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: I was mute, Beth said nice to meet you or

704
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: something like that, like she had not propped heard or

705
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: did not recognize me, and I was shocked. I assume

706
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: she did not recognize me, then wondered if I maybe

707
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: was wrong and it was not actually her. What followed

708
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: was an agonizing debate on whether or not I should

709
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: mention to her afterwards that if she went to ex

710
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: high school, then I am the same Anna that was

711
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: such a witch to her. She knows. I genuinely do

712
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: not recall much else from that night because of the

713
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: intense anxiety, but I must have done okay or Clara

714
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: took pity on me because she invited me to hang

715
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: out again. I mentioned to Clara that I felt uncomfortable

716
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: joining them again because I thought I knew someone from

717
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: the group from high school and I wasn't nice to them.

718
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: I didn't go into detail, but made it very clear

719
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: that it was not a mutual rivalry or anything like that,

720
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: that I was the antagonist based off the awkward introduction,

721
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: I was pretty sure she would know I was talking

722
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: about Beth. Clara said something to the effect of that

723
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: was years ago. We're all adults, now, give yourself a

724
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: chance to redeem yourself, which I accepted because it was

725
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: what I wanted to hear, even though it was not

726
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: her forgiveness to give. Between the message Beth sent in

727
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: college and the conversation with Clara, I allowed myself to

728
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: hang out again. I think I messed up there. I

729
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: should not have allowed Clara to be the one to

730
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: give me permission. I should have sought it directly for Beth,

731
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: and I did not. I agreed to another hangout in

732
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: another and I became more comfortable and grew closer with everyone,

733
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: including Beth. I was able to confirm that we had

734
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: grown up in the same hometown and this was definitely

735
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: the same Beth. The closeness felt wrong without me fully disclosing,

736
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: so on maybe the fourth meeting, when others had gotten

737
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: up to go to the bathroom or get drinks and

738
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: it was just the two of us, I said something like, Beth,

739
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: I have something I need to talk to you about.

740
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: Now is not the time, but I was wondering if

741
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: we could meet for coffee sometime. She agreed. I was

742
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: practically wetting myself with nerves, and the next week we

743
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: met up for coffee. I started the conversation with I

744
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: don't know if you recognize me, and I'm sorry to

745
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: owe you yet another apology either way, if you have

746
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: recognized me and did not feel comfortable saying something or

747
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: did not recognize me, and I've been interacting with me

748
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: under false pretenses these past couple weeks, or we're just

749
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: completely in the dark. But we went high school together,

750
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: and I was not nice to you. You said that

751
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: she had recognized me and meant what she said about

752
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: leaving the past in the past. She had pretended not

753
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: to know me when I was first introduced to the group,

754
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: so I did not feel like I had to out

755
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: myself in front of new people. We talked for a bit.

756
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: We both opened up to each other about mental health struggles.

757
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: I thought everything was good. I would okay, now I

758
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: feel like op is in the clear.

759
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got the forgiveness. Yeah, she said, let's leave

760
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: the past the past.

761
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: Anything after this is like, to Beth is good. If

762
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: Beth retaliates, that'd be too far.

763
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 6: If she was planning revenge, this puts a wrench in

764
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 6: her plans.

765
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: You know, She's like, no, the person apologized, I actually

766
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: see them as a person.

767
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: The only thing that matters is how much does this

768
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 6: person that got bullied care about morals?

769
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

770
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm hoping right now. It seems like she's like,

771
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: all right, doesn't see what's like a movie where the

772
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: person goes all out in their revenge plan.

773
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: Carrie the Counts of Monte Cristo.

774
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: It's true, don't follow her into a Oh you know what,

775
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: I always get cask of a mantiado and mixed up.

776
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't follow her into a wine

777
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: cellar and let her put a bunch of bricks. A

778
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: few months past, I am now very regularly spending time

779
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: with Clara, Beth and their group. Then a couple of

780
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: days ago, we were all at Clara's apartment and I'm

781
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: sitting next to Beth on the couch and she starts

782
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: sniffing the air. My heart dropped through my stomach. I

783
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: knew what was coming. He dramatically sniffed and then said

784
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: loudly to Clara, it smells like Anna is trying to

785
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: cover up her disgusting bio with even more disgusting perfew.

786
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: Be original.

787
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really pathetic. Just because you're a depressed

788
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: slob doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer too.

789
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: My jaw dropped to the floor. I tried to laugh

790
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: it off, but the rest of the group was understandably

791
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: super confused and upset because they did not have the context,

792
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: I awkwardly explained that Beth and I knew each other

793
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: from high school and I had said something similarly unkind

794
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: to her when we were fifteen. They did not appreciate

795
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Beth's joy gathering. The gathering came to a very awkward

796
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: and abrupt end, and I assumed I would never hear

797
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: from anyone again. The next day at work, Clara was

798
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: profusely apologizing to me about what Beth said, and I

799
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: kept trying to say it's fine. I deserved it. But

800
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Clara and everyone else in the group is adamant that

801
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: being an a hole when you're fifteen is different from

802
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: being an a hole at twenty six.

803
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: I do not.

804
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: Necessarily disagree, but the context is more complex than that,

805
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: and it was one snipe. I could have gotten over it.

806
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: The real problem is that Beth is furious with me.

807
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: She texted me saying that everyone in the group is

808
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: mad at her and that it's my fault. Girl, Be real,

809
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: what happened?

810
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 4: Real, Leave the past in the past.

811
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, girl, it's it's Op's fault. You said

812
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: the thing.

813
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be real. We could have set up

814
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: Op really badly.

815
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: Beth. We could have like we could have we could

816
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 2: have done such like a better plot.

817
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, next time, you.

818
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: Know, you run away somebody next time.

819
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: There won't be a next time.

820
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: There won't be a next time. But if there were

821
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: a next time, run by someone.

822
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 6: Else, you could have made it look like op did something. Yeah,

823
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 6: like you were you two were both in the kitchen and.

824
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: And then you like you pull like a jade from

825
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: victorious and like pretend you have a black eye and

826
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, pee, why'd you hit me? Yeah, and

827
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: it'd be like, what, why did I hear?

828
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 6: We're giving really bad advice?

829
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Gasp, come on, we need we need more, We need more,

830
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: because this is this is like an eight year old's attack.

831
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: You know, It's just like if you have a fifteen

832
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: year old bullying an eight year old and the eight

833
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: year old plotted eight years for revenge. And then it

834
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: was like, I don't that I did not understand where

835
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: she was coming from with that, but that I wanted

836
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: to hear her out. I also said I didn't understand

837
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: why she hadn't just told me she was uncomfortable with

838
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: me being around even once in the past six months,

839
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: And not only that, but actively reassured me that everything

840
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: was fine when it was clearly not. She said, I

841
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: terrorized her, and she saw an opportunity for petty revenge,

842
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: and so she took it, and it was my fault

843
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: because I assumed that it would ever be okay to

844
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: be anywhere near her. I am heartbroken, but I feel

845
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: like I do not have any right to be. Is

846
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: she right that I never should have assumed things were okay?

847
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: Should I had just walked out the second I saw

848
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: her and left her to her own life without me

849
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: as a painful reminder of high school years.

850
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 6: I have final thoughts feel like Opie needs to forgive herself.

851
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 5: I think she started to forgive herself or starting to realize,

852
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 5: you know, when she started to realize, Wow, I was

853
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: a crappy person.

854
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think there is that kind of guilt

855
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: on display here where she's excusing Beth's more, I don't know,

856
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: unhinged thoughts and words and actions because she still feels bad,

857
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: and I think there is. I mean, you shouldn't just

858
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: forget about it. You should understand that Beth has been

859
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: very hurt and clearly is still affected by it. But

860
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: also Beth needs to act like an adult in adult situations,

861
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: and when she doesn't, there are consequences to that that

862
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: aren't weren't even Op's fault. I really feel like I

863
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: need to leave this friend group, but I do not

864
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: know how to without them getting more mad at her

865
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: for boxing me out, which they have said is something

866
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: they're worried about. I feel like I'm caught between impossible

867
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: options and it's all my fault. On one end, I

868
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: really meant the apology and feel like it was not

869
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: unreasonable to trust that Beth was being honest with me.

870
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: On the other hand, the reason I could get a

871
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 2: heartfelt apology is because I did the work to really

872
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: understand and accept the consequences of my actions and the

873
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: lifelong hurt that being targeted like that as a child

874
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: can cause. So I do not blame Beth for still

875
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: being mad at me. Please help. And that is the

876
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: end of the story.

877
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: My girlfriend chose my brother over me, and now I'm

878
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: just the third wheel.

879
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: I want to be the third wheel anymore.

880
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two male and Felix, eighteen male, is my

881
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: adopted brother. My parents saved Felix from a difficult situation

882
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: when he was a kid, so they were always really

883
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: protective over him and he was always the favorite.

884
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: This made me feel bitter toward him while growing up.

885
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user c estimate seventy

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00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,240
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889
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm key On.

890
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: We're already give good advice goofly, but we don't have

891
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: all of life's answers. We only know what we would do,

892
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

893
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: As Op says, even though Felix.

894
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: Is an adult who just started college, my parents still

895
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: dote on him up until he moved out. They made

896
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: his meals and still scheduled his doctor's appointments, which they

897
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: did not do for me at his age. I met Emma,

898
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: twenty one female at university and we've been together for

899
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: about three years. She is sweet, funny, beautiful, and we

900
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: are incredibly close. Felix was accepted into the same university

901
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: as me, and while he probably could have gone to

902
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: a better one, our parents forced him to go to

903
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: mine because they thought it would be safer and make

904
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: visits easier.

905
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 4: If we lived in the same city.

906
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: I think my girlfriend Emma is interested in Felix, and

907
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: it breaks my heart. This is probably my fault. When

908
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: I was helping Felix choose his classes, his major had

909
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: overlap with Emma's, so I signed him up for a

910
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: couple of hers. I figured if they were in the

911
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: same class, I could see them afterwards and show Felix

912
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: around campus, or give him a ride to the grocery

913
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: store and get to see my girlfriend at the same time.

914
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 4: I never thought about what could go wrong.

915
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: First day I went to see them after class, I

916
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: introduced them and we went to get food. I realized

917
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: they were getting along really well. She asked him about

918
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: random facts from their studies and marveled at how smart

919
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: he was when he.

920
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: Knew the answers. Do not get me wrong. Emma was

921
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: still far more all over me, so at.

922
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: That time I thought it was just her being her

923
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: sweet self. But over time their blooming friendship became harder

924
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: and harder for me to bear. Felix has this way

925
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: of interacting with others that is very flirtatious, and he

926
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: does not seem to notice like this. One time we

927
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: had a friend gathering at our house and Felix told

928
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: one of the girls that she was so pretty that

929
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: if he saw her picture being used to sell frames

930
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: at the store, he would buy the whole shelf. He

931
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: seemed super surprised when she asked him out later, and

932
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: he told her no. He does this behavior with everyone,

933
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: even other guys, and now with Emma. Drives me crazy

934
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: because no one else finds this behavior odd the way

935
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I do. The first thing was when we went to

936
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: a restaurant because my parents were in town and Emma

937
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: was invited.

938
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: She noted how good her food was.

939
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: Felix asked if he could try some, and she said yes,

940
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: but instead of scooping some out of her plate like

941
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: a normal person, she he gently tugged on her sleeve,

942
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: guided her spoon into his mouth, and thanked her. If

943
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: she updates her appearance, Felix will notice and compliment her.

944
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: He joked that if biology doesn't work out for her,

945
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: she could easily fall back on a modeling career. I

946
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: have heard him say this kind of thing to countless girls,

947
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: so I told Emma it means nothing. He has also

948
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: invited us to hang out with him in the past,

949
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: and even if I cannot go with them, we'll still

950
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: ask her to go with just the two of them.

951
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Emma has never stopped him. At least at first she

952
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: laughed it off dismissively, but over time it was clear

953
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: she was enjoying the attention. She began talking about him

954
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: a lot, like funny things he did in class, and

955
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: asked a couple times what he was like when he

956
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: was younger. When the winter quarter began, they joined some

957
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: classes together, and for the first time, Emma did not

958
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: bother to ask me to join any of hers. They

959
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: would hang out together after class without me, and when

960
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: the three of us did hang out, she would give

961
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: him more and more attention, looking at him while smiling

962
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: as if he is.

963
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: The best thing ever.

964
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: I just wish she would look at me like she

965
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: used to.

966
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: One day, I overheard her and her friend in my apartment,

967
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: where her friend complained that there are no men in

968
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: their major with both brains and brawn. They're in STEM,

969
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: so I guess all the guys in there are not

970
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: her type. Emma quietly replied.

971
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: That is not true.

972
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 4: Just look at Felix. I have to admit I cried

973
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: on my floor that night.

974
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: The worst thing was when our friend group was at

975
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: McDonald's joking about this flyer we saw on campus asking for.

976
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: Nude models that paid really well.

977
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: Suddenly, Emma, in front of me, told Felix he should

978
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: sign up for it. This turned into an uncomfortably drawn

979
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: out conversation between Emma and a few other friends about

980
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: my brother's body and how he would be perfect for

981
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: artists to sculpt. They worded it grossly, albeit in a

982
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: joking manner, and kept saying he needs this since he

983
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: has been job search. Emma kept being insistent, saying, seriously,

984
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: you would make so much money, genuinely trying to convince him.

985
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Felix kept saying no and giving valid reasons why he

986
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: did not want to, but Emma kept being pushy, telling

987
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: him to apply. She and the others did not quit

988
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: until Felix stopped responding. I am not confrontational at all,

989
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: but in the car ride home, I passively said that

990
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: whole conversation was kind of weird and it was uncomfortable

991
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: for me to hear about how badly my own girlfriend

992
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: and her friends wanted my brother to get unclothed. Me

993
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: and Emma are the unseerious type, and I said this

994
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: in a pretty joking way. But she seemed to take

995
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: it seriously.

996
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: It's so funny that you really want to ope. He's

997
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: not even looking at her. It's so funny that you

998
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 2: should really want to see my brother on clothed. Hey, babe,

999
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: do you want to talk about that?

1000
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 5: And she babe, do you want to see me unclothed?

1001
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: No?

1002
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: No, your brother? Yes?

1003
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Again?

1004
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: You know your brother's hot.

1005
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: You disgusted me.

1006
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: She said what.

1007
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: My accusation was the stupidest thing she had ever heard,

1008
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: and said she was just trying to be like a

1009
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: good older sister to Felix and help him get a job.

1010
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: I told her that while I want him to get

1011
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: hired too, it's not like I would urge.

1012
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: Him to do an of or something.

1013
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: She told me, I am taking something that is innocent

1014
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: and making it which I could get. But I told

1015
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: her that regardless, Felix looked uncomfortable and probably felt objectified

1016
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: since they were making comments about specific parts of his body.

1017
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: Why are we okay? Yes, one thing, but also, why

1018
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: aren't you saying anything about your self, Opie that you're uncomfortable?

1019
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: And why does she keep crossing this line?

1020
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: Like totally fair for you to say, Hey, Felix, didn't

1021
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: like that, don't do that, but also fair for you

1022
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: to say, hey, I didn't like that, I'm your boyfriend,

1023
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 2: and then to finish that off but saying hey, we're

1024
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: breaking up.

1025
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: We went back and forth for a bit over this,

1026
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: never really raising our voices, but both being upset, and

1027
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: I ended up dropping her off at her own place

1028
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: instead of taking her back to my apartment.

1029
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 4: I will also.

1030
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Say that since Felix moved here, I tried to become

1031
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: an extra good boyfriend for Emma. If Felix complimented her hair,

1032
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: I would buy her an expensive hair product and compliment

1033
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: her even better. I have always spoiled her, but feeling competitive,

1034
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: I really upped my game. I know that was a

1035
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: really backwards way of solving my insecurities rather than just

1036
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: talking to Felix or Emma, but I did not want

1037
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: to admit that I'm jealous of Felix like I had

1038
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: to all the time when we were kids. I just

1039
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: want one area of my life that is mine, that

1040
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: gives me its undivided love and attention, and I thought

1041
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: that Emma was that for me. Now, whenever she mentions

1042
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Felix or I think of them in class together.

1043
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: I feel physically ill.

1044
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: The day after the semi argument, I felt insecure again

1045
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: and texted an apology to Emma. Then I proposed that

1046
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: we go and visit a nearby lake town that she

1047
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: had been wanting to.

1048
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 4: Do for a whole year.

1049
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: She already had a plan of everything she wanted to

1050
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: do there. It has always just been me that was

1051
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: too busy, so she was super excited. She chose a

1052
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: weekend and we spent the prior week planning for it,

1053
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: deciding the activities and packing. She booked us a hotel room,

1054
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: but before we headed out on Friday, she asked me

1055
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: a question that destroyed me.

1056
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: She asked if we could bring Felix. No, no, eh.

1057
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no other friends. She did

1058
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: not ask if we could make it a group thing.

1059
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: She asked for jes Felix to come. I asked her

1060
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: why on earth we would bring my little brother when

1061
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be something romantic for the two

1062
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: of us. She explained that the three of us are

1063
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: always hanging out and she had told Felix about the

1064
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: lake and invited him to go sometime in the past,

1065
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: so it would be rude not to bring him.

1066
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: It would be like so rude if he didn't come

1067
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: on our we can't get away. I just I would

1068
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: feel really bad if he didn't come. And you know, honestly,

1069
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: I think that maybe we it would be rude if

1070
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: he didn't sleep in our bat well, you wouldn't be there,

1071
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: but like with me, right, because he would be cold.

1072
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: You know how guests you know you're cold, and he's warm.

1073
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 4: He's so warm, so warm. Oh, you didn't know he's warm.

1074
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: I know how that either. What are you talking about? Yeah,

1075
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm just assuming.

1076
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 4: I'm guessed. I'm just playing a guessing game.

1077
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: Breck up with your girlfriend.

1078
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: After bottling up everything for so long, I finally blew

1079
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: up at her with how upset the two of them

1080
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: made me, how I felt like a third wheel whenever

1081
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: it is the three of us. I mentioned the flirting

1082
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: and the conversation I overheard, and even briefly mentioned how

1083
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: my parents did this exact thing to me. I told her,

1084
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: I am so tired of being someone else's second favorite.

1085
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: She responded by saying, I was totally exaggerating, acting like

1086
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: she cheated when she did not do anything. I never

1087
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: accused her of cheating. She said, all their interactions have

1088
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: been platonic, and she kept explaining her side of things,

1089
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to where I began to feel guilty for being so emotional.

1090
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: But I told her I was sorry and would not

1091
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: go to the lake with her anymore.

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: Which pissed her off.

1093
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: She said the hotel and a couple places she booked

1094
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: times with would charge her a cancelation fee, but I

1095
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: did not care. Why would she Why would she cancel everything?

1096
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't she just not bring Felix?

1097
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Because she's in love with Felix.

1098
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: So she's gonna go to the lake with Felix.

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00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: Now, yep, Yeah, she probably didn't even cancel everything. She

1100
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: just canceled on you break up with her. There is

1101
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: nothing left for you here.

1102
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's truly time. This happened about a week ago

1103
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: and I have not seen them since. Felix texted me

1104
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: asking to talk just the two of us. I assume

1105
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Emma told him about our fight, but I blocked him.

1106
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Do I genuinely think Felix is interested in Emma. No,

1107
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: he is probably just sheltered by my parents and does

1108
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: not know better.

1109
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no no no,

1110
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: stop stop gaslighting yourself. Felix knows better. He probably isn't

1111
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: actually interested in Emma. He probably just wants to toy

1112
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: with her. But he knows what he's doing. He's not

1113
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: We've found out multiple times that this guy is smart.

1114
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would we not talk to him? I don't

1115
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: think that was a good idea. Why would you block

1116
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: him without talking to him because.

1117
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: He doesn't like confrontation?

1118
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: Remember, so clearly, it's honestly, it's getting pathetic.

1119
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: It's debilitating for you.

1120
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: But do I think Emma likes sim yays? But I

1121
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: still love her? So dang?

1122
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: What if I'm wrong? What if she just thinks he's

1123
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a good friend. In their defense, I've never really told

1124
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: Felix to stop the flirting, nor really mentioned to Emma

1125
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: that her friendship with him bugs me.

1126
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 4: You suck, brother, that's on you, my guy. You are

1127
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: the worst kind of little guy.

1128
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: You're just a little one inch man.

1129
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: You are making yourself a one inch tall little man. Yeah, yeah,

1130
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: a little one inch man you've turned yourself into. I'm

1131
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: the one who put them in the same classes and

1132
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: introduced them.

1133
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: Dude, that's the story that is so far.

1134
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: Felix deserves your girlfriend.

1135
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: Honestly, I can't. I don't what.

1136
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: Are you there?

1137
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't even maybe it is.

1138
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't believe that you are have

1139
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: your finger on the pulse of anything real. I think

1140
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: that you're taking everything the wrong way, and that there

1141
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: is a reason why.

1142
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 4: Emma was like, what it's like you think it was weird?

1143
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: I was talking.

1144
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like we were razzing him, and I was telling

1145
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: him to make money because he's broke and needs a job.

1146
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I think that there are men

1147
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: yead and that op he recognizes it, but doesn't have

1148
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: any spine to do anything about it.

1149
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: And that's the end of this story. We're going to

1150
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: go on to the next one.

1151
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here, and

1152
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: we're going to get back to the stories.

1153
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: But here's a three minute ad break from our sponsors.

1154
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: My sister in law banned me from seeing my niece,

1155
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 3: and my husband took her side.

1156
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: Bad Hubby Bad.

1157
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: Me and my husband were in a pickle. We needed

1158
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: to save money, but the townhouse we were living in

1159
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 3: was becoming too expensive for us to handle. His his

1160
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 3: parents are far wealthier than mine and have a giant

1161
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: house that he has lived in with his three siblings,

1162
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: his whole life until he met me. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this comes from Low Life Painter, And if you want

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00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: us to make your own stories, go to the r

1165
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Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime Subredda. I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and we're.

1166
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: Here to give good advice.

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00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: Goofily. But we don't have all the answers. We only

1168
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: know what we would do, So let us know what

1169
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: you would do in the comments. Me and him had

1170
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: been pretty much independent until this point, so I was

1171
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: having a hard time even accepting the idea of moving

1172
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: into his parents. I had gotten to know his family,

1173
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: I thought pretty decently at this point. I was around

1174
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: for the announcement that my sister in law was pregnant

1175
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: with my niece. I went to the gender reveal. I

1176
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: was there at our first birthday party and all of

1177
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: the holidays. His family always were loud and proud about

1178
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: their emotions, not afraid to argue in front of strangers,

1179
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: and I found a sense of peace seeing a family

1180
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: be able to express themselves so freely to each other,

1181
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: Because when I was growing up there was so much silence.

1182
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: I never had a.

1183
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: Stable home life.

1184
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: My parents were divorced when I was three, me and

1185
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 3: my sister would get yelled at by my hostile mother,

1186
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: and we lived in silence in our own little worlds.

1187
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: Silence and my room was safety. So coming into a

1188
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: family that was so opposite was refreshing, almost blinding to me,

1189
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: like I couldn't see the toxicity until I actually lived

1190
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: with them. The reason I didn't want to live there

1191
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: initially was because the way my sister in law treated

1192
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: her daughter, it seemed like she had no regard for

1193
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: her baby's safety.

1194
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: And that bothered me.

1195
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: I also was afraid of keeping my cats in a

1196
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: room for so long that I'd have to get rid

1197
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: of a lot of my belongings. Eventually, we all came

1198
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: to an agreement where we were able to live in

1199
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: the space of the house where both hallway entries can

1200
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: be closed off. It is kind of like a mini apartment.

1201
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: So I reluctantly agreed to move in, willing to make

1202
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: a sacrifice so my husband wouldn't be so stressed about

1203
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: our finances. We moved in November twenty twenty three, a

1204
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 3: couple of months after me and my husband's wedding had

1205
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 3: taken place. We were fine through the holidays. I was shy,

1206
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 3: but comfortable and loved enjoying meals with everyone. It felt

1207
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: like everyone took care of each other. But then after

1208
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: the holidays, I realized that the parties never really ended.

1209
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: For my sister in law, there are always people over

1210
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: every other day, strangers walking into our section of space,

1211
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: leaving our doors open and accidentally letting my cats out.

1212
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: Then came the issue of the men she brought around

1213
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: her daughter. Sugar Daddy is that she barely knew, left

1214
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: unattended around her daughter, picking her up like that was

1215
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: their child, but it wasn't. After seeing this, I had

1216
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: battled with myself and if I should bring up my

1217
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: discomfort around the men she was bringing around her daughter,

1218
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: But I felt like she would scream at me and

1219
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: tell me to mind my own business. That's how she

1220
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: would usually solve conflict screaming about it, and that's exactly

1221
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: what she did to me once she found out about

1222
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: my discomfort through my husband, who I had asked for

1223
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: help on what to do, and he told me not

1224
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: to tell her. Then came time for my in laws

1225
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: to go traveling for three months. At this point, they

1226
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: had been the main caretakers of my niece and since

1227
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: I had stopped working to pursue my own business. I

1228
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: was the perfect person to take over for them once

1229
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: they were gone. The schedule was all over the place

1230
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: about when I exactly was watching her, and there was

1231
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: hardly ever an actual good reason why I needed to

1232
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: be watching her. Then eventually the other siblings were also

1233
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: watching her at random times. Nothing was consistent. I have

1234
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: a hard time without a solid schedule, and I was

1235
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: losing sleep at this point because I would get either

1236
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: woken up way earlier than expected or end up staying

1237
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: all night out of pure stress of the situation. Eventually

1238
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 3: I had enough. I asked around the house to each

1239
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: person and asked them how they felt about everything being

1240
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: all over the place, and they agreed with me that

1241
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: we needed a more consistent schedule. My husband's other siblings

1242
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: were also losing sleep as well and felt their kindness

1243
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: was being taken. We all sat down except for one

1244
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: sibling who had to go to work, and waited for

1245
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: her to come home so we could plan our schedules

1246
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: out altogether. But the one sibling who went to work

1247
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: tipped her off that we were waiting for her, and

1248
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: she lost it. She twisted it into being this horrific thing,

1249
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: that we were plotting against her and that schedules don't

1250
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: work for her. She targeted me and said I had

1251
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: agreed to every single day and that I don't care

1252
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: about her or her daughter. I yelled back at her

1253
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: that I cared for her and her daughter so much

1254
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 3: that I just wanted to do this to help everyone out.

1255
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: She then said she never wanted to be near her

1256
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: daughter again. I had a panic attack after that. I

1257
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: was so devastated. Me and my niece had grown really

1258
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: close by this point, and the thought of not being

1259
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: able to see her again ripped my heart out. And

1260
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: she knew it would. Everything went back to normal, or

1261
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: should I say everything got brushed off. I attended her

1262
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: graduation from beauty school and celebrated with her afterwards. It

1263
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: was then, after a couple of weeks, she drunkenly apologized

1264
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: to me for the fight, and I was pleased enough

1265
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: with that to move on, But the things she says

1266
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: sticks on my heart heavily.

1267
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, we're just taking that apology, but like she

1268
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 5: probably might not even remember as like that's the apology

1269
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 5: I just heard.

1270
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: Apology.

1271
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that's a you know what, that's a whole

1272
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 5: hearted apology. I'll take that.

1273
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: A month later, she finally went on her own trip

1274
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 3: to Florida for two weeks, and it was the first

1275
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: time the house had been completely quiet. I found myself

1276
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: baking and cooking in a clean kitchen. The kitchen is

1277
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: the spot the partying was always at, so I never

1278
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: felt comfortable being in that area. I felt so happy. Finally,

1279
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: then she came back and partied for three days straight.

1280
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: The kitchen was a mess. All her stuff was everywhere.

1281
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: I had used one pan, one bowl, and the mixer

1282
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: piece to make homemade pancakes. That was all the dishes

1283
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: that were in the sink of mine. A day later,

1284
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: I received a text from a sibling asking if someone

1285
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: could do the dishes and clean the kit I knew

1286
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: he wasn't talking about my sister in law because I

1287
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: heard them talking that morning, and he could have asked

1288
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: her to clean up the mess, but she must have

1289
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: refused or the question wasn't asked, so it would be

1290
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: up to me and my husband, who barely leave our

1291
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: space and only had three things in the entire downstairs

1292
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: that were ours, the dishes, or my brother in law,

1293
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: who was just as antisocial as us. All three of

1294
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: us refused to clean up her mess from her party,

1295
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: so my brother in law went downstairs to ask her

1296
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: to do it. She threw a huge tantrum, came stomping

1297
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: up the stairs, and yelled at us through a door

1298
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: that we were sou disrespectful. For days after that, I

1299
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: heard her and my other brother in law talking crap

1300
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: about me and my husband loud enough to hear on purpose.

1301
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: It really started to upset me and my husband, to

1302
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: the point where he called his parents to complain about it.

1303
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 3: Once my husband started shouting about it upset, we heard

1304
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: her scream at the bottom of the stairs that she

1305
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: could hear us trying to be as petty as possible.

1306
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: She then started going through the house to making pictures

1307
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 3: of anything that might have been ours, then telling us

1308
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: to come and clean it up.

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: I had had enough.

1310
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: I made our entire living space up here as self

1311
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: sufficient as I could so we wouldn't have to go

1312
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: downstairs and use anything. I did not want petty, irrelevant

1313
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: things held against me anymore. I wanted our independence back.

1314
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: It was going fine for about three weeks. Then my

1315
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: husband started slowly talking to her again, but I was

1316
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: too scared at this point to even go downstairs.

1317
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1318
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 5: You're literally just like, all right, I'm in my you know,

1319
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 5: the the highest bloody tower, just doing like you can't

1320
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: go downstairs. The fact that she's forcing you not to go,

1321
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 5: like you.

1322
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: Not forcing yourself, not forcing you, but you're.

1323
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 5: Just so uncomfortable to go out downstairs in your own

1324
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 5: place of living.

1325
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: I didn't want any more confrontation, but of course she

1326
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: found another reason to be mad at me, even though

1327
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: I had done nothing. She decided to ask my husband

1328
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: a question, what would you do if your wife cheated

1329
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: on you. My husband did not take this lightly and

1330
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: saw it was another jab towards me. He went off

1331
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: on her and said, don't talk about his wife like that.

1332
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: Then he took a jab at her friends and called

1333
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: them messy and gross. This set her off. She then

1334
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: started to make fun of my timidness, talk more crap

1335
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: about me, loud enough to where I could hear it. Again,

1336
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: just being horrible. My husband got over it rather quickly.

1337
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: This time.

1338
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: He was able to go down there be cordial play

1339
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: with his niece. Oh while I've been feeling trapped in

1340
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: this room and unable to go enjoy myself so I

1341
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: decided to get the courage to go downstairs. Once I

1342
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: came down, looked into the kitchen, and there my sister

1343
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: in law was doing her friend's lashes. I passed by her.

1344
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: She didn't make an effort to talk to me, nor

1345
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: I to her, but her daughter came right up to

1346
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: me all excitedly. I only said hi, wow, cool, and

1347
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 3: giggled as my husband bounced her. My sister in law

1348
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: got up and asked her friend to follow her outside.

1349
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: I had a sinking feeling. I knew exactly what she

1350
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: was doing, talking crap about me to her friend. I

1351
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 3: brought it up to my husband and he brushed it off.

1352
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: Then a few days later, one of my family members

1353
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: shares a post of my sister in laws with me,

1354
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: where she said the exact situation downstairs, but was trying

1355
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: to make me look malicious and horrible. But of course

1356
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: she didn't put my name in the post, but everyone

1357
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: in my family followed her, so they knew it was

1358
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: about me. I sent the post to her mother and

1359
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: showed my husband, and they both yelled at her in

1360
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: my defense. I felt grateful that they were sticking up

1361
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: for me. She then went off on my husband and

1362
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 3: her mom, saying that my husband was suspicious and he

1363
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: must be doing something with her daughter and her mom

1364
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: can stay out of it. She then completely shunned me

1365
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 3: from her daughter again. Now I was just defeated. I

1366
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: tried really hard to be friends with her and get

1367
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: to know her in those earlier months, just to be

1368
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 3: completely disrespected at every turn. I was sleeping the next

1369
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: day after this argument, and when I got up, I

1370
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: was told by my husband that he had a one

1371
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: hour conversation with her and that they talked it through.

1372
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: That he wanted to keep the peace between just the

1373
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: two of them so he can se his niece, but

1374
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: he will not force either of us to apologize to

1375
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: each other, is what he said. Maybe I'm reading too

1376
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: deep into this, but this feels like absolute betrayal by

1377
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: my husband. How could he not be with me on

1378
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: my decision to sever the ties after all of this?

1379
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: What should I do? That is the end of that story.

1380
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: I will say, as much as I'm like, yeah, I

1381
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: think you guys should distance yourselves a little bit and

1382
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: move out. I don't think that you can tell your

1383
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: husband to cut off his sister.

1384
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: No, And I think with what he did there he's

1385
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 5: just playing neutral, right.

1386
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 3: I think he was very much being like, I have

1387
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: fixed my side of it. I don't expect you to

1388
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: have to do that, and she's taking it as like,

1389
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: how dare you kind of thing, and that's the end

1390
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: of this story.