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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor

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Speaker 1: Josie Horchak.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, and welcome back to in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, Doctor Josie, and today I have

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Speaker 2: a very special guest. She is no stranger to the mic.

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Speaker 2: She's a key member of the Bobby Bones Show, known

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Speaker 2: for her sharp wit, her impressive production skills, and of

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Speaker 2: course her role as Morgan number two. Most importantly, she

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Speaker 2: is a dog and a cat mom. Welcome to in

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Speaker 2: the Vets Office, Morgan Hulsman.

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Speaker 1: Hi, if you heard a little bit of Morning and growny,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Remy on the microphone over here.

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Speaker 2: Morgan bro I'm actually very excited because this is a

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Speaker 2: byod or C bring your own dog and cat to

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Speaker 2: the podcast, and we haven't been able to do that

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Speaker 2: because we've been in the iHeart studio, but we're turning

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Speaker 2: things around. You brought both.

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Speaker 1: I decided why not bring my whole zoo with me

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. We've got Remy here, who is sitting on

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Speaker 2: your lap, and then we've got your little kitty Hazel.

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Speaker 2: She is in her like little is she in her backpack?

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Speaker 1: Yep, she's sitting in it. She's in her space backpack.

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Speaker 1: I like to call her the astronaut kitty when she's

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. I love those people bring their cats and all.

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Speaker 2: We're actually going to talk about this in all different

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Speaker 2: crazy things to the vet, and this is one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite, the little space backpacks.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's the most that she's comfortable in

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Speaker 1: Versus if I tried to bring her in a crate

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And when you're carrying them, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Great, Yes, no, they're perfect.

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Speaker 2: Highly recommend. Okay, Well, before we dive into all things

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Speaker 2: Remy and Hazel, I always like to start this podcast

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Speaker 2: with a case of the week. So without further ado,

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Speaker 2: this was a case that happened to me when I

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Speaker 2: trying to remember the cat's name. This was like almost

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Speaker 2: ten years ago now. It was a little girl kitty.

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Speaker 2: And what kind of kitty? It was just a gray tabby. Okay,

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Speaker 2: beautiful little gray tabby. Again, I never met her because

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Speaker 1: See this is my microchips are so important, exactly, it

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Speaker 2: They're so much smarter than we give them credit for.

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Speaker 1: Which is why when you try and train them and

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Speaker 2: She doesn't really know much different her, what was her background.

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Speaker 1: She was found as part of a one hundred and

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Speaker 1: And she came out the Humane Society of America. I

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Speaker 2: How old was she? When she was eight?

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Speaker 2: I bet she has bad dental disease. They're like one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hazel gums it. And now Remy just had two

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Speaker 2: in this hoarding situation. Yeah was this this was one

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Speaker 1: But she's definitely unsure of environments and she's not sure

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Speaker 2: I feel as though you were This is not your home,

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Speaker 2: That I've already been chosen, So it's happening.

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Speaker 1: She's laying like a little rug on herd. No, she

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Speaker 2: Lost off? So remy, what are you? I would have

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure where the cavapoo comes into play.

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Speaker 2: Well that's amazing. She's got eternal puppy face and like

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Speaker 1: They are. They're the size of Remy. They're both the

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Speaker 1: same pound.

437
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Speaker 2: People don't realize they're huge, and they're so amazing.

438
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Speaker 1: They are, and they're so fluffy they.

439
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Speaker 2: Are their big long ears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The therapy woman who has them, she always pushes

441
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Speaker 1: them around in a stroller and it's the cutest thing ever. God,

442
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 1: I love it. So they can be any kind but

443
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 1: as long as they have this very gentle demeanor. And

444
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 1: so Remy passed that with flying colors through to go

445
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Speaker 1: into the training program, which we did for six weeks together.

446
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Speaker 1: And why I say it's so important on the human

447
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 1: side because when you take the final exam to get

448
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,439
Speaker 1: it's this whole process. You have to know how to

449
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 1: go on elevators. You have to be able to avoid

450
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 1: temptation like toys and treats. They can't say that word

451
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: out loud. You have to like just have all of

452
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 1: these basically be a good canine citizen, but then also

453
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Speaker 1: just have this extra layer of a calm demeanor and

454
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Speaker 1: a loving animal. And so when we went through training,

455
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: they were like, you're going to interact as a human

456
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Speaker 1: with the people more than actually rimy is. Rimy's just

457
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Speaker 1: the kind of the gateway to get them to start

458
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Speaker 1: talking to people or have interactions. And they weren't wrong.

459
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Speaker 2: You're a huge part of the equation.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if I don't know how to communicate, and

461
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to listen to them or ask

462
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 1: them questions or engage in conversation, then we're both just

463
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there and it's not gonna do anybody

464
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Speaker 1: any good. So it was very much a testament one

465
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Speaker 1: to our bond together, but also just having the ability

466
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Speaker 1: to be wanting to communicate with people. And she was

467
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Speaker 1: just kind of that mode of transportation, if you.

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Speaker 2: Will, that is so special. And something you said is

469
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: it's a testament to your bond. And I find that

470
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Speaker 2: the owners that really do invest time in training and

471
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Speaker 2: doing activities like this, the bond that they have with

472
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: their animal I mean, yes, everybody's bond with their animals

473
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: is very strong, but it's just enhanced even more.

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Speaker 1: It is. I can since almost immediately when Remy's not

475
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 1: feeling well, she can tell when something's going on with me.

476
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Speaker 1: We just have it. It's a much deeper connection than

477
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: just your basic pet and human love, which is already

478
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 1: so big. But Remy and I just on a different level,

479
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 1: are like we're literally it's soulmates in way. It's how

480
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: I see it. And Hazel's coming into that equation too.

481
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Speaker 1: But like Hazel and I have a different bond because

482
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Speaker 1: we weren't able to bond when she was really little

483
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Speaker 1: and we didn't go through all these training courses and

484
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Speaker 1: things together. So it's a different type of bond.

485
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Speaker 2: It is, But that's really special. One thing you said

486
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: is you can tell when she's off. And recently we

487
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Speaker 2: had a little bit of an episode, yeah, where I

488
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Speaker 2: got a phone call from yous are like seven in

489
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Speaker 2: the mo Was it from you or maybe Bobby text

490
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Speaker 2: me was like, you need to talk to Morgan too,

491
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, tell us about that.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, So it's very rare that I don't come into work.

493
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Speaker 1: If I don't come into work, something's wrong, Like I

494
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: make a point to always be here, And I texted Scuba,

495
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: who's our EP, and I was like, I'm pretty sure

496
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Speaker 1: Remy's about to have an allergic reaction. I cannot leave

497
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Speaker 1: until this is under control. I'm hoping it will be soon,

498
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Speaker 1: but I don't know when that's going to be. And

499
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Speaker 1: then he I guess he told Bobby, and Bobby text

500
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Speaker 1: me is like, is Remy okay? I was like, at

501
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: this moment, yes, but I don't think it's going to

502
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: go well as this progresses, and I was right. She

503
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: started to blow up like a balloon, like her whole body.

504
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Speaker 1: Because miss Remy is allergic to everything and something or another.

505
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Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that she particularly ate because her food

506
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Speaker 1: is we've gotten that out of the equation, but she's

507
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Speaker 1: allergic to so many environmental factors. She's allergic to grass, so.

508
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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to eliminate.

509
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Speaker 1: It's everywhere, and she this dog loves to roll in

510
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Speaker 1: it on purpose. So we do really great at avoiding

511
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: our allergies. Yeah, but so's something got on her and

512
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: she just blew up her whole eyes and her mouth

513
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: and her little body. She had hives all over her

514
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: whole face was red. She was getting to the point

515
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Speaker 1: where she wasn't gonna be able to breathe very well.

516
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Speaker 2: There's a couple of things as an owner that are

517
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Speaker 2: really scary, and one of them is watching your dog

518
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Speaker 2: have like a very acute allergic reaction. You feel very helpless,

519
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: and they're becoming more and more swollen, and you're like,

520
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: what do I do? I almost feel you're like running

521
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: around in circles like do I go to the bed,

522
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Speaker 2: do I not go to the bet and just trying

523
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Speaker 2: to figure out what in the heck you're supposed to do.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's really terrifying because you feel I feel

525
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: like that, and I've watched so many CPR PET videos

526
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: to be prepared in case whatever happened. Those are the

527
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Speaker 1: two scenarios where I just feel like you feel so

528
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: helpless because you're gonna try everything you can but it

529
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: may not work right. And sometimes you either live close

530
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: to a vet or you don't, or like in our case,

531
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Speaker 1: we have you who is a concierge met and who

532
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Speaker 1: does amazing work, but some places don't have that.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah. My general rule of thumb for listeners is if

534
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: your dog is starting to swell up, their eyes are

535
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: starting to swell, their muzzles swollen. You want to seek

536
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: veterinary care, whether that's calling like you calling me, or

537
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: calling your vet clinic and just checking in with them,

538
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: something that you want to take really seriously, and just

539
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: like you did, Like I never would have left her

540
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: at home alone, because we have seen them get so

541
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Speaker 2: swollen that their airways start to close, they can't breathe,

542
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: and it can be life threatening. So it's not something

543
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: to take lightly.

544
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you know, it's a really struggle. I

545
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: feel for the people out there who are like single

546
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: pet owners because I don't have anybody at home that

547
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: I can say, hey, I have to go to work

548
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: and you can stay here, or we can flip flop

549
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's just me. So in that situation, I

550
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: can't call work and be like hey, y'a, i'll be there.

551
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm like, no, this is me, this is

552
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: on me, and I'm really sorry, but this is my

553
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: priority right now. Yeah, And it's hard to make that call,

554
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: but you have to.

555
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: It's really hard to make that call. But being a

556
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: pet owner means you know, making them your priority, and

557
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to make sacrifice, and so yeah, I

558
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: applaud you for doing the right thing. Is she end

559
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: up coming to the studio that day or no.

560
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: So she did come up to the studio because then

561
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: I was able to get her into my vet, and

562
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: so she had actually what we found out, she had

563
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Speaker 1: an allergic reaction to a flea bite, and whatever flea

564
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: medication stuff she was on wasn't working anymore. She had

565
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: either been on it for so long that it just

566
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: stopped working for her, or it was no longer strong enough.

567
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: We don't really know. But we basically gave her one

568
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: of the pills that you can do immediately that gets

569
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: that to kind of start activating, and then I had

570
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Speaker 1: to wait a couple of weeks and just bathe her.

571
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Speaker 1: I was bathing her like every three days. In one

572
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Speaker 1: of the Don's dish up, you just see a little

573
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Speaker 1: tail in the microphone that was Hazel Don dished up

574
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: like every three days. And then finally we got to

575
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Speaker 1: a point where I could give her some new medication.

576
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Speaker 1: And now we haven't had that issue again.

577
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Speaker 2: But we just did a whole episode with Doctor Isabella

578
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: this season about allergies, and yes, I feel like is

579
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: made for remy a Hazel and we talked about how

580
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Speaker 2: one fleabite because the saliva of the flea is what

581
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: causes allergic reactions and our pets can send a pet

582
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: into a full allergic spiral. So she's like textbook for

583
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: for that sort of response.

584
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh and I did on both of them. I did.

585
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: There's which I'm sure you probably probably heard of the

586
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: five strands allergy. Are they having a little fight over

587
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: there might be okay, they love to playing.

588
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: They're doing sibling sibling love. I think my foot got

589
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: in the middle all of that. Oh, Andrew ground shrif.

590
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Speaker 1: And Hazel has a really great left right hook.

591
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Speaker 2: I know those little videos. I don't know if people

592
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: out there watches or maybe it's just me. Of the

593
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: cats that are like hitting the like pawing the dogs

594
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: is so funny to me.

595
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: She's so good at it, like literally just left right

596
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: right away. I'm like, girlfriend, we got to make sure

597
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: those nails are always keep the nails in. Yeah, it's

598
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 1: really cute when the nails come out, it's very scary.

599
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: It is. They have very long nails, and she's not declad.

600
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: I would never do that to her and she but

601
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: I have to cut her nails every week, and thankfully

602
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: she's really good about it. But now I don't Now,

603
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't remember what you had asked me.

604
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: What was I What were we asked talking about?

605
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: We had a dog cat fight, little sibling rivalry.

606
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Shit is hitting the fan in the BET's office. I

607
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: can't actually remember what we were just talking about. Definitely okay,

608
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: yeah again, yes, oh, five strands strands.

609
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I had found this environmental Remy Levy's old one. Literally,

610
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: dog and cat fighter. There's a five strands allergy and

611
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: environmental tests that you can do with like the follicles

612
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: of their hair, and I send it in for both

613
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: of them, and you know, I just got really blessed

614
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: that I have to animals allergic to everything everything. I

615
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: changed both of their diets, I did all kinds of things.

616
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: The whole shebang. Yeah, I only to stay consistent with

617
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: the episode that I did. I don't really love those tests.

618
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: Interesting.

619
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Speaker 2: The hair and blood tests are like the over the

620
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: counter ones that you can buy off Amazon and not

621
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: super accurate. Okay, it's when it put like a ton

622
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: of weight into them. But if you're making the changes

623
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: and you're seeing improvements, that's great. Otherwise, if you're not.

624
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: Ohy's like, what come on?

625
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: Hey?

626
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Changing everything? What's going on? Do I need to pick

627
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: one of you up?

628
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: Just like sits there? And I told you Remy is

629
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: the sheriff. If Hazel does anything that, yeah, I know.

630
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: Heel get in your back back.

631
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: We have we have only child syndromes. It's definitely a thing.

632
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: She's like, wait a second, you're telling you this test

633
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: didn't work all that for nothing? Yeah?

634
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: She so she I really paid attention to the ones

635
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: that were in the red that were super intense, okay,

636
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: more than I focused on all the other ones. Yeah.

637
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I was like, which things can we start to kind

638
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: of pull out? That seemed to be just so overacting?

639
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I took from it. That's

640
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: fair because honestly, other than that's very overwhelming.

641
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: It is very overwhelming. I'm not sure how accurate they are,

642
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: so I think taking them with a grain of salt.

643
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: So if that's something that isn't super accurate, How do

644
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: you determine allergies for animals?

645
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: Like how is that the most accurate way is to

646
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: do intradermal testing? Like how you and I if we

647
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: went to the allergist they would do prick you, like

648
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: all those little pricks and seeing what you flare up to.

649
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, these poor animals, there's no way.

650
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Then we do it all the time. I don't do it,

651
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: but the veterinary dermatologists do it.

652
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the animals are okay with it. Yeah, I

653
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: feel like I would be okay with it. That's why

654
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: I say that I'd be a huge baby.

655
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: Honestly, the animals are better because I feel like we

656
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: are like, oh my gosh, this is so scary. I

657
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: hate needles, blah blah blah blah, and animals like it's

658
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: such a teeny tiny like they don't even really feel

659
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: the prick. They don't have that like preconceived notion that

660
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: we do. So they typically do great. So, Yeah, they

661
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: can make allergy shots and allergy drops, but that's really

662
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: the most accurate way if you're like, I really want

663
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of what is causing them

664
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: to be allergic.

665
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I do think so much of Hazel's has

666
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: started to get better. I think Hazel it was just

667
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: changing honestly to a healthy diet and having enough food

668
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: in her system and a lot of the things from

669
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: her past.

670
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: Actually coming from the hoarding situation, it's like hard to

671
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: even know what her baseline is exactly.

672
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: So I think we're getting back to there with Remy.

673
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: Remy's always been allergic to different foods, and that was

674
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: really where a lot of her started. As a puppy,

675
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: she would start to react to different things. So I've

676
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: gotten used to having to change her diet a lot.

677
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm used to this.

678
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I am so at least the diet side, we've done well.

679
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, it gave me knowledge

680
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: instead of not having any absolutely, but I'm not totally wrong.

681
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: But just you know, there's other options out there. Is

682
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: if you ever were like, hey, I feel like I

683
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: still we could do more. She still seems to be

684
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: really suffering. There's always that option.

685
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I never even knew they did that, I know,

686
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, because most places we'll be like, well, we

687
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: can do allergy shots. I'm like, well, I don't want

688
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: to keep her on. I want to help her, not

689
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: just you know, write quick fix right now. I want

690
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: to know what it is we're doing right.

691
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: Get to the bottom of it.

692
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

693
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is you could always try We

694
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: talked about this with doctor Isabella. But you could always

695
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: try the hype wallergenic food and where they do a

696
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: diet trial and they eat that and only that for

697
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: eight weeks, they don't eat anything else, and then by

698
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: week eight, if they really do have a food allergy,

699
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: you would see pretty like big improvement.

700
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Interesting, we may have to try that, although I'm not

701
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: sure Remy would approve of that. Remmy really likes to

702
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: eat cheese. Wait a second, Like I don't get any

703
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: of this anymore.

704
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: The hard it is. The hardest part is like sticking

705
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: with the plan, especially people that have like toddlers and

706
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: they're throwing things over their high chair. But if you

707
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: can get on the same page and I tell owners

708
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: it's only for eight weeks and then you know at

709
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: the end of it and do they have a food

710
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: allergy or not, it's definitely worth it.

711
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: Well. And it's funny because Remy, Remy's always been I

712
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: always joke that es in Hazel when she came into

713
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: the picture, they have a better diet than I do.

714
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Like they eat the healthiest food that you can possibly find.

715
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Hazel eats two different types of canned food of all

716
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: kinds of different flavors that I rotate all the time

717
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: because she doesn't like the same one multiple days in

718
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: a row. And they're the like a super healthy brand.

719
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: And then Remy gets half of this brand called the

720
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Honest Kitchen and then half of a human food that

721
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: I make, which is mixture of turkey and stowed potatoes,

722
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: green beans and carrots, like the dream the most best

723
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: foods you could possibly be giving. And it's but it's

724
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot to keep up with. And

725
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: Remy also has to have supplements and just different things

726
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: to help her as she's gotten older.

727
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: It's a huge undertaking cooking for your pets too. It

728
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: is my toet owners, and like that is a lot

729
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: of work. People don't. I mean, I can't even food

730
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: prep for myself, let alone my animals.

731
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: So that's why I say I've gotten really good for

732
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Remy and Hazel. But look at me. I'm like, nah,

733
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm fine, but.

734
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: They can they can all just go to Taco Bell.

735
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Literally, I'm like, this is so not how we all

736
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: need to be doing this.

737
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know, well I love that. Do they

738
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: sleep in your bed with you?

739
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Remy does? As you just heard the little scuffle between them,

740
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Remy doesn't really allow Hazel to come sleep in the bed.

741
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes she will if she's so tired. She doesn't pay

742
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: attention because Hazel's a little sneaky, But yeah, Remy does,

743
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: and Hazel would love to whenever she does. Especially when

744
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: I go back home, they both sleep in the same

745
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: bed together. But for some reason, at my house, it's.

746
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Really so when you travel back to your hometown, they'll

747
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: sleep in the same bed together, like we're not in

748
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: our normal environment. We've got a band together.

749
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that because my parents have three dogs,

750
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: and they both kind of like like their space and

751
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: they like being a little independent, So I think they

752
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: choose to be together versus separate.

753
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: On that that's totally fair. But then we go back

754
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: home and it's all back for this week, only we

755
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: are on the same team.

756
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: It's funny how that works.

757
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: And when we get home, it's over.

758
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Are you about to tell me not to let her

759
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: sleep in the No?

760
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm definitely not. I feel like I'm

761
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: like the fear of bad news.

762
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: No.

763
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: I have three dogs. Two of them sleep on the

764
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: floor because they just get hot at night. And then

765
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: my little ones like wrapped around my head see, and.

766
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't I get it. I know there's like, you

767
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: know you sleep better or whatever. I'm like, honestly, I

768
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know that I would sleep better. I'd be like,

769
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: where are you? Why won't you cuddle me? I like

770
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: having used to snuggle.

771
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: I love to sleep with my little dog. Biggie is

772
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: his name, and he's a small dog.

773
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: I know.

774
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: His name when we adopted him was baby Bear, baby Bear,

775
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: and he only came to the name baby and my

776
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: husband was like, I'm not calling this dog baby. So

777
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: we called him Biggie because it sounds, you know, similar

778
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: to baby Yeah, and he comes to Biggie though he come,

779
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: oh yeah, he's totally Biggie is for sure his name now.

780
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: But no, like, he's like my little space heater, and

781
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: he's so cuddly and that I'm all about. If you

782
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: want your pets to sleep in your bat with you,

783
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: I support you.

784
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny too when I'm on the couch

785
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: hanging out with both of them, like Rimy will be

786
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: cuddled like she's little spoon with me, and if I'm

787
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: like kind of turned it all, Hazel will be in

788
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: between my knees like back and we're all just I'm

789
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: just like, well, we're here until one of you moves.

790
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I am just gonna have to hold

791
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: it for the next twelve hours.

792
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: That's exactly. Sometimes I will fall asleep on the couch

793
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: if we're all peacefully sleeping there, I'm like, I'm just

794
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna sleep on the couch to night best.

795
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: There's no better feeling.

796
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: There really isn't, and I know there will become a

797
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: day that I'm going to miss that, so I'm gonna

798
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: soak it up every time that I can.

799
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: So you're single, have you ever dated anyone that didn't

800
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: get along or like your pets?

801
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, really no, I didn't date them for very long.

802
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: That's what I don't know why I'm saying, really like

803
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: I asked the question.

804
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it didn't last very long. That's honestly. One

805
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: of my first questions before I even really start to

806
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: consider even going on a date with someone is if

807
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: they like animals, because I am a massive animal lover.

808
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I me and you're producer of this podcast have had

809
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: this conversation I can't date a hunter, which is funny

810
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: because yeah, I just I can't. I could if it

811
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: was like out of sight out of mind, you never

812
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: bring it home. Yeah, but I just know most hunters

813
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: that's not the lifestyle. No, And I just I love

814
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: animals so much that if you don't, we're just going

815
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: to be vastly on different scales. And you're also not

816
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: going to understand me as a human being.

817
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: One thousand percent. It's like in your DNA. I feel like,

818
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: if you're an animal lover and you know all the

819
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: values like finances, children, all of that, of course is

820
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: super important, but like if you don't like animals, that

821
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: is right up there.

822
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it's funny. I had I dated one

823
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: guy and he oh, he had and all kinds of

824
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: red flags, but he was actually really good to my animals.

825
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: But something that's really important to me is that I

826
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: if I see a straight animal, I am going to

827
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: find a way to get it, and I'm gonna get

828
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: it to safety. That's just all my plans will be curtailed.

829
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't care.

830
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Correct.

831
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: And we were headed to dinner and I saw a dog.

832
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: I was like, pull over right now, like I'm gonna

833
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: go find out and he was like, no, we're not,

834
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep going. And I sobbed about this

835
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: dog I had never met in my life, but I

836
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: was like, this is not going to work for me.

837
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: And I remember like sitting in that car being like,

838
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: this is so important to me that I can't overlook this.

839
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: We broke up for a multitude of other reasons, but

840
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: that was something that really stuck in my brain. For

841
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: future partners, Yeah, they have to be okay with this

842
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: part of who I am.

843
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: I feel like you at the first date need to

844
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: be like, would you or would you not stop on

845
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: the side of the road for a straight animal? I

846
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 2: guess check, No, just save us some time, Josie.

847
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: There's also people that I've met who like purposely hit squirrels.

848
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh, don't tell me that.

849
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Like, they'll purpose and they'll see or

850
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: they'll see possums or something. I'm like, stop, I don't

851
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: what is that animal doing to you?

852
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm calling nine one one on them.

853
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: That's how I feel.

854
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: Not only am I not going to date you, You're

855
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: going to jail. See that is horrible.

856
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Oh, the toothpaste one's funny. The toothpape story is funny.

857
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: What's this? So I did? I did date a guy

858
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: and you know I brushed Ramy's teeth every single night.

859
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Miss Hazel doesn't have to have her teeth brush teeth,

860
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: but Rammy gets her teeth brush every night and it

861
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: is with my toothpaste. So I never forget that this

862
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: is something I have to do. Right. Well, I was

863
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: dating a guy and we were at the point of

864
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: him he was staying over and he had went into

865
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: my bathroom to brush his teeth and he came out

866
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, that toothpaste is super weird.

867
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about. I

868
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: have Colgate, Like why is it weird? He's like in

869
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: the green bottle and I was like, can you show

870
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: me what money you use? And he comes out, I'm like,

871
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: it literally says dog faced on this bottle.

872
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: You're like, you just brush your teeth with the dog's toothpaste.

873
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: I did, and you may or may not be illiterate

874
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: because it says dog toothpaste.

875
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: O like, it says it Vet's best dog enzyme toothpaste. Wait,

876
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that is disgusting.

877
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: They like put like chicken flavor in there.

878
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ah, that's why it tasted a little weird for

879
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: this poor guy. And I was like, I'm really sorry,

880
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: but that is not my tooth face and he's like, no, died,

881
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: what did you guys? Yeah, we didn't work out for

882
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: other reasons. But I'm I'm not sure if that did

883
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: or did not play a part in that. It's very

884
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: possible it did. That is hilarious.

885
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: I have never heard of an owner brushing their teeth

886
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: a dog toothpaste.

887
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Well, and I did it. That's the best part. It's

888
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: in my thing all the time. But yeah, that that

889
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: poor guy. I think about him often.

890
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: You're listening to this, sir, We are sending you our condolences,

891
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: our thoughts and prayers.

892
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: Very sorry.

893
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: You might want to use some extra mouthwlaw.

894
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: I might have to make sure I also change that

895
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: up next time. My data man to have separate toothpaste places.

896
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of feel like that's like

897
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: a good test.

898
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: It is a little bit.

899
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you can you

900
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: read the labels?

901
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Apparently we don't pay attention. That's okay.

902
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: If you start brushing your teeth and he's like, chicken,

903
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: are you gonna stop?

904
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Dang?

905
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, this is good to know. Remy and Hazel are

906
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: helping you sift through the red flags.

907
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh they sure are. They're so great at that. And honestly,

908
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: if Remmy doesn't like someone, it is a red flag

909
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: because she loves everybody.

910
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. They know and I trust them implicitly.

911
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: If you come into my home and my dogs don't

912
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: like you, I'm like, I guess you gotta go. Like

913
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: they have the best intuition you know.

914
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Also too, like there was a moment in my dating

915
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: life where I was in an abusive relationship and Remy

916
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: was my main concern. She was a reason that I

917
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get out, and so I really sympathize with people

918
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: when they're in situations like that. And I remember I

919
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: got on like a red eye. This is all at

920
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: the same time as Bobby's winning Dancing with the Stars

921
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: and we're about to go home for Thanksgiving break and

922
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: I get on a red eye with Remy. This is

923
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: when back when she used to be able to fly,

924
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: because she's my emotional sportannel For a really long time,

925
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: I had some really bad mental health problems and she

926
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: was a great flyer by the way, like never made

927
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a peep, passed out on my lap. She was wonderful.

928
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: But she flew home with me and I had to

929
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: leave her with my parents for three weeks so I

930
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: could go back and get out of my situation. It's

931
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: the longest turn I've ever been apart from each other. Wow,

932
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: And it was It was huge because that me being

933
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: able to take her to my parents was the only

934
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: thing that allowed me to get out of that relationship,

935
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: because she mattered to me more than I was even

936
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: picturing myself in that moment. Right.

937
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Gosh, it sounds like, I mean, you have told me

938
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: that your bond is strong, and clearly we've already articulated that,

939
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: but you guys have really been through it together.

940
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: We really have. She's been through every moment. I often say,

941
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really have to get married at some

942
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: point because she has to be at my wedding. That's

943
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: the only requirement I have.

944
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: He's the maid of honor, she is.

945
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: She will be there wherever I am.

946
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: So it's gonna make me cry, beautiful.

947
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: This has to happen, and I will be there too,

948
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Hazel will want to be there.

949
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: So they're like, no, thank you.

950
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: I like, I'll stay home for this time.

951
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm sending you my thoughts on prayers I

952
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: have said it once and I will say it again.

953
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: The dog that you have in your twenties, through all

954
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 2: of your dating and your heartbreaks, and just like growing

955
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: up and learning about yourself, Like, there is no stronger

956
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: bond than that. You guys are a testament to that

957
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: for sure.

958
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: No, there really isn't. And I really cannot possibly fathom

959
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: the day that she's no longer here. It breaks my

960
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: heart even thinking that that's the possibility. So we like

961
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: to think that she is not even halfway there yet.

962
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: No, she has got decades ahead of her.

963
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: Yes, she might be the one dog that lives forever.

964
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: We are going to bet on it, all right. We

965
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: are going to transition to our paw and Order and

966
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: we'll be right back. All right. We are back with

967
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: Paw and Order, where I tell you things that I

968
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: would not do with my own pets as a veterinarian.

969
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: Number one on the docket for today is I would

970
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: never give my dog a pill without putting something around

971
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: the pill. A lot of people will shove it down

972
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: their throats or just stick it in their mouth. And

973
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: my friend actually just took a pill, laid down and

974
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: the pill sort of burnt a hole in ter esophagus,

975
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: which humans too. We should always remember, like drink with

976
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: lots of water, take with food, because if those pills

977
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: or tablets get stuck in your esophagus, they can cause

978
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: serious issues.

979
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: No, you're you're putting on my fears that I already have.

980
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: You should see me take my like all my stupplements

981
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I take every day. I'm like throwing my head back

982
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: because I don't like to swallow it.

983
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: The pawn order segment is very anxiety doucing. I'm not

984
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: gonna lie, I'm stressed, but no, it's really important. There's

985
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: great things like pill pockets that you can get on Amazon.

986
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: I also really like American craft cheese singles. I mean

987
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: you can get really any kind of cheese singles, but

988
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: I always.

989
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: Cut up little cheese cubes and I'll shove it in there.

990
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheese, rab it and lunch meat, just something to

991
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: coat it. And if you have to give your dog

992
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: the pill, like just the plain pill, make sure you

993
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: like squirt some water into their mouth afterwards, because I've

994
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: seen it and really badly.

995
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great tip. I would have never known

996
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: that that actually was. I just always did because it's

997
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: the only way I can get her to take it.

998
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: But that's makes sense, It's a real thing.

999
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: Okay.

1000
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: Number two, I this goes back to earlier, but I

1001
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: would not take my pet to the vet and not

1002
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: keep them on their leash or in their carrier. And

1003
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: this obviously goes for the kitty that ran away and

1004
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: the parking lot. A lot of cat owners especially will

1005
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: walk into the clinic holding their cats. I see a

1006
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: lot of pillowcases, like kitties tucked into pillowcases. Those are

1007
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: always so crazy to me, which is very cute, and honestly,

1008
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: if like you're not, it's better than just like holding

1009
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: your cat, I suppose. But I am a big proponent

1010
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: of putting them in a carrier or the backpack, having

1011
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: them zipped up, because them getting loose is horrible. And

1012
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: then even inside the clinic, like we have dogs and

1013
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: cats and people and all these things, and I've seen

1014
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: fights break out in the clinic between the pets. So

1015
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: just keeping them on the leash, no matter how good

1016
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: your dog is, it doesn't mean that like everybody else's

1017
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: pet wants to be greeted.

1018
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, with Hazel, she's really gotten very curious

1019
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: of the outside. So even when I let my dog out.

1020
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: I have to be like a guard to the door

1021
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: and say you cannot come outside. There's a camera footage

1022
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: of me running being outside and she peeks her head

1023
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: out because I didn't think this was gonna be a thing.

1024
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: And I come like scrambling pig wrestler and get her

1025
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: back inside. Because you leave, I'm never gonna find you again.

1026
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: It's like wwe SmackDown, yes and coming for you.

1027
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: I do have like she'll go on road trips and

1028
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: she runs the car. She's so great at road trips,

1029
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: which is funny. Most cats aren't, but she loves them.

1030
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: And I put on a breakaway collar with an apple

1031
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: tag just in case because at the very least I

1032
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: can find a path where she might have gone.

1033
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: I love that You're a great owner.

1034
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: I try to be. I'm also kind of a helicopter owner. Well.

1035
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: The other thing you could get her that I think

1036
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: are so cute if she really wants to go outside

1037
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: as the cadio. Have you ever seen those? Are like

1038
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: little outdoor.

1039
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: Geocgor Josie, I'm about to this is I'm admitting this.

1040
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm about to get so. I have a deck in

1041
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: my house and I'm looking into estimates to get it

1042
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: all closed in so that she can start going with

1043
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: this is amazing.

1044
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: This is not a cadio, this is a penthouse.

1045
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Yep. I'm like, you get more than that. We're gonna

1046
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: step this up and not. She had eight years of

1047
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: who knows what.

1048
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: So I love that she's gone from hoarding to living

1049
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: the dream she is. Okay, please send pictures when that

1050
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: takes place. I want to see all right, Last, but

1051
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: not least, I would never get a pet off of

1052
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: Facebook or cragslist, and this brings me back to I

1053
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: did an episode with Tarin not too long ago and

1054
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: she got one of her dogs off of Cragslist. I

1055
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: am not knocking her, I'm just saying that that can

1056
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: be very dangerous. A I don't want any of my

1057
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: listeners to get taken, but also be a lot of

1058
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: times those are backyard breeders that are breeding and then

1059
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: probably not doing the most ethical breeding practices and then

1060
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: selling puppies and dogs to make money. And we don't

1061
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: want to support backyard breeders.

1062
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, doctor Josie. I'm a huge advocate

1063
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: of rescuing, and if you want any particular breed, you

1064
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: can find it in a shelter, I promise you.

1065
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what that's It's such a great point.

1066
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: Even here in Nashville, I do a lot of work

1067
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: with wags and walks, and we get standard Poodles, Golden Retrievers, Labradors, like,

1068
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: all the peer breads are coming through the shelters. So

1069
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: if you were a helmet on having a peer bread,

1070
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna judge you. I support you, but make

1071
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: sure you check your shelters first. And if you absolutely

1072
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: want to go to a breeder and make sure they're reputable.

1073
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: And for sure, I will tell you, like I've had

1074
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: so many friends who've tried to get Remy alikes because

1075
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: she is a great dog, and it never works out

1076
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: because I often tell them the biggest characteristic of her

1077
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: is that she's a rescued exact, and so much of

1078
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: that comes from appreciation and understanding that she was saved.

1079
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: So one million percent, I say, like those little trust

1080
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: fund babies that come from the breeders, they do not

1081
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: know what it's like to live on the streets. They

1082
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: do not, So the street dogs are where it's at

1083
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: and they're usually the healthiest. So yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: could go on and on. All right, Well, that really

1085
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Speaker 2: wraps up our episode for the day. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: You have your own podcast. Can you remind me what

1089
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: it's called the AA. It's called Take this personally, Take

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Speaker 2: this personally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of Wags and Woks, I had the founder

1092
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: on recently Wags and Box Nashville. She's talking all about

1093
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: like the animal and rescue crisis that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: It's really sad.

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Speaker 2: She's like the queen dog Lady of Nashville. She is.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, I say sad because it's heartbreaking, but

1097
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Speaker 1: it's also just hopeful too at the same time that

1098
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are doing some awesome work. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It definitely restores your faith in humanity absolutely. Well, thank

1100
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Speaker 2: you so much for coming on. I appreciate having you.

1101
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Speaker 2: I love your pets. Even though like it kind of

1102
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Speaker 2: broke out into a little bit of World War three

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Speaker 2: and here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my life. This is the zoo. I did

1105
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Speaker 1: text you and say I'm bringing the zoo.

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Speaker 2: You did, and I was like, bring them.

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Speaker 1: Well, we really went out with a bang, a dog

1108
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Speaker 1: catfight bang.

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Speaker 2: Actually, hey, you're right we are going out with a bang.

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Speaker 2: And actually this is very fitting because this is our

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Speaker 2: final episode of season two, which has gone by so quickly.

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Speaker 2: I've had the best time. At the end of season one,

1113
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Speaker 2: I was like, gosh, I can't believe it. Now we're

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Speaker 2: already at the end of season two and it's going

1115
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Speaker 2: to be a pretty short break. We're already working on

1116
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Speaker 2: season three, so don't worry. We will be back and

1117
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Speaker 2: in the meantime, be sure that you are subscribing, reviewing, rating,

1118
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Speaker 2: doing all those important things that make this podcast successful.

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Speaker 2: And as always, you can find me on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: doctor Josie Bett. Send me your questions, feel free to

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Speaker 2: DM me and I can't wait to talk to you

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Speaker 2: guys soon