WEBVTT - Ep. 24: Rollerblading with the Golf Course G.O.A.T.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. If Elon Musk ever gets to

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<v Speaker 1>build his creepy Martian utopia, we will have fish to

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<v Speaker 1>thank for it. I actually at one point wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>he was like real or not, like you may have

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<v Speaker 1>been like a robot. Every time somebody says lake Minnetonka,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say to myself, why don't you purify

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the waters Lake Minatonka. I missed the days

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<v Speaker 1>when you can marry people and not get it into trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome to Band the fishing

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that refused to include any kids that couldn't skate

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<v Speaker 1>in its roller hockey game. I'm Joe Surmellie A Miles Nulty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was one of those kids. I was not

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, but you know what I I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care because I was at the skate park on a

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<v Speaker 1>skateboard where we wouldn't let any of you barney as

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<v Speaker 1>Blazers anywhere near the ramps or anything else for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't allowed. That's yeah, Look, that's fair. Skateboarder. You

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<v Speaker 1>were always cooler, right, And I'm not talking extreme rollerblading.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about in a hockey context here, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I find it fascinating that skateboard

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<v Speaker 1>has remained cool, but rollerblades have disappeared. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>it makes perfect Now let's listen. Let's listen. Listen. I

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<v Speaker 1>see the fat dropping out in terms of extreme rollerblading,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the skate park that the kids that bothered you.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody rollerblades anymore, period, not for fitness, not for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even know if kids play street hockey anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if that's a thing. Like like kids,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids age, what do they roll with on their feet?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't have roller skates, you don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, roller blades. I don't understand how that just disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than fishing, it was the only sport I

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<v Speaker 1>was ever into. I played street hockey weekly on blades

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like ice hockey skates. I had the CCM

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<v Speaker 1>official roller hockey skates, and even if I was playing goal,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept the skates on. Most kids are like playing

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<v Speaker 1>goal and putting my sneakers, and now you keep the

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<v Speaker 1>skates on. I mean, I'm not sure if you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>asking me what happened to rollerblades, because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>you were asking the wrong guy, because clearly I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to know because I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>We could we could call up my cousin. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He was on the state roller hawking championship team,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but he was really he was my younger cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a badass. Oh, I'd like to know more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to know more about that. Could he not

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<v Speaker 1>ice skate? Is that why it was Hawaii? So ice

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<v Speaker 1>skating not so much. Gotta gotta gotta think about what

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<v Speaker 1>was appropriate, got it and got it. And just to

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<v Speaker 1>like close the loop on this, man, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know what replaced rollerblades for the kids, and and they're

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<v Speaker 1>called razor scooters, and they're equally terrible. And I put

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<v Speaker 1>rollerblades and razor scooters together with Tankara rods. Alright, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I put both of them into that category.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're the kind of thing, any of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing you might you might have one

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<v Speaker 1>hidden like way in the back of your garage under

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff, and like you might even use

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<v Speaker 1>it occasionally when you were a hundred percent positive that

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<v Speaker 1>no one that you respect is gonna see you. But

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<v Speaker 1>if one of your buddies were to like, hey, what's

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<v Speaker 1>what do you got back here, and like see that

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<v Speaker 1>in your garage, you're gonna lie and you're gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>it belongs to your kid. Oh god, the letters were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get about that one. We're gonna get letters about

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<v Speaker 1>Razor scooters, rollerblades all together. I said it, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know we like letters, thank god. So that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of places that you you won't find ten carra

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in Plaine View, let's head over to that was

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<v Speaker 1>a really good you like that. It was really well

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<v Speaker 1>the Upper Delaware on the Upper Delaware River. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am very tight with the White Tail Fly shop crew.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got kind of a different smooth Move segment

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<v Speaker 1>for you this week. I actually recorded this in the

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<v Speaker 1>shop months ago during prime season with shop manager Pat Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's just say we're all familiar with the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nonsense guides on the water have to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've yet to venture into the life of the

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<v Speaker 1>shop guy, which is different. So here's a little taste.

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<v Speaker 1>Why oh my little change of pace for smooth moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Here this week. I am actually recording from inside White

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<v Speaker 1>Tail Country Fly Shop and Starlight p A, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite shops on the planet and one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite destinations. And you know, uh, smooth Moves thus far

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<v Speaker 1>has been tailored to captains and guides telling stories of

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous ship that their clients have done. But we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be all inclusive with the fishing industry, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna change it up a little bit today. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>got Pat Cook here. How you doing, Pat? Doing pretty good? Good? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>Now the shop guys, the unsung hero Pat, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>feel unsung? Feel just kept in the corner like baby?

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to I want to give I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give voice to the unsung here. So um I

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<v Speaker 1>figured um similarly to uh some some lunacy that that

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<v Speaker 1>guides and captaincy. Um, this can be like groundhog Day, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just the same questions over and over. Yeah, i'd say

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<v Speaker 1>ten times, at least ten times a day. You get

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<v Speaker 1>the same question normally what fly works, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>easy one because I just say none of them, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But you've you've got to you've got to particularly stand out,

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<v Speaker 1>um customer interaction that you're gonna give us on smooth

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<v Speaker 1>moves today. So so lay it on me, man, how

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<v Speaker 1>this what? What? What? What he got? Well? Uh, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had a guy, let me think. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>guy come in. He's a nice guy. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice guy, genuinely nice guy. Didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>any of this was happening, meaning meaning you were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about him later. No, well, no didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he realized the things that he was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just one of those that's great. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>at one point wondered if he was like real or not,

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<v Speaker 1>like he may have been like a robot. So so

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<v Speaker 1>it comes in, you know, he's Peter, and I don't Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? And he's he's like, oh great, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just passing through, you know. And I'm like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys fishing. He's like, well, no, I only fish freshwater.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fish the rivers. I was like okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>and also I thought maybe he missed, maybe he miss spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he miss spoke. So then I'm like, okay, where are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys from? And he's like, oh, I live over

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<v Speaker 1>by Lake kum As, I said, I do only freshwater fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a real conversational conversation. He said, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you ever think about getting out on

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<v Speaker 1>the rivers, we're here and he's like, yeah, I like

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<v Speaker 1>the freshwater. This legitimately happens. So then he gets over,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's looking around for a while, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets over by the hats and he wants to buy something.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that he wants support supports small business

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<v Speaker 1>souvenir if you will, wants to get something. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the hats and uh, He's like, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>is this hat twenty dollars more expensive than this hat?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, one's waterproof. He says oh. He says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to the hat if it gets wet? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the waterproof one or the other one? He

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<v Speaker 1>said the other one. He said, well, generally has to

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<v Speaker 1>get wet. They collect dirt and they maybe lose a

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<v Speaker 1>little of their form. And he says okay. So then

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to bolth on and then he says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why does this hat fit differently than this hat does?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, I'm not sure. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>the crown in the hat. I didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>say at that point. Um he ended up not buying

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<v Speaker 1>the waterproof hat. He ended up buying the powder blue

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<v Speaker 1>hat that I thought it might be for his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, this is gonna look great on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it at least a white tail country flash? Now

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<v Speaker 1>it was something else, big brand, not a small not

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<v Speaker 1>a small shot. Okay, this is why I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of us expanding the smooth move concepts this way. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this because even though even though that story doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have like an oh damn punchline at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like where someone takes a dump in the

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<v Speaker 1>livewell or falls out of the boat, it's it's more layered,

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<v Speaker 1>and it realistically portrays what it's like to work in

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<v Speaker 1>the fishing service industry, because that's what it is. Guys

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<v Speaker 1>like guys like Pat deal with with this lunacy multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times a day most of the days that they go

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Yep, And it's it's it's more subtle, but

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways it's almost funnier because all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>guided for a lot of different shops over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of my guiding career, and I never worked the counter,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would see these poor kids show up every

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<v Speaker 1>morning when I was waiting to meet my clients and

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<v Speaker 1>they were opening the shop, and they just they had

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<v Speaker 1>this look of resignation in their faces, like like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Dante and Clerks when when they're opening

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<v Speaker 1>the shop, you know, exactly. And just to mix, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mix nineties comedy references here a bit, but like

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<v Speaker 1>if past smooth moves or the equivalent of like Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Carrey or Sinbad stand up, this one was squarely Stephen Wright.

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<v Speaker 1>I get up the other day and everything in my

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<v Speaker 1>apartment had been stolen and replaced with an exact replica

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe Mitch Hedberg, Right, that's a cynical dude, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I like them. And even if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in a fly shop, if you ever work in retail ever,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand why this is comical, especially because you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so forced to stick to that customer is always

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<v Speaker 1>right thing, even if you're just dying to be a

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<v Speaker 1>total dick and you can't. And uh, anyway, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to get a few more shop owners in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix. We know plenty of them, so that very

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<v Speaker 1>well could happen. Yeah, we do. We know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and hopefully they'll be here soon. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's keep up some of that that hot sales action.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna move from buying ugly fishing hats that are

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<v Speaker 1>not water to selling gently used fishing waiters that hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>our waterproof in this week's sale, Ben, why did you

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<v Speaker 1>put the hand to pave? You don't know what I'm getting? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>What you didn't have to be so hurtful with me

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<v Speaker 1>so angry? Today we've got a listing I found on

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<v Speaker 1>offer up and this is from Philadelphia, p A. And

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<v Speaker 1>everything about this listing is so Philly I can hardly

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<v Speaker 1>stand it. This is a straight up Philly John right

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<v Speaker 1>here for the people in the area that know what

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<v Speaker 1>that term means. Up for grabs today we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>used neoprene boot foot waiters. But here's the title of

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<v Speaker 1>the listing. Phishing waiters spelled w A I T e

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<v Speaker 1>r s, as in waiter in a restaurant, which must

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<v Speaker 1>be like the you know, the pool waitress National Lampoon's

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<v Speaker 1>vacation Um. Anyway, fishing waiters, nothing wrong with them, just

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<v Speaker 1>got too fat. I'm still laughing quick. I gotta I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta jump back for a second, though, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to maybe do a weekly word on John, because

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<v Speaker 1>I and many others out there have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. J A W N. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fishing term. Alright, well, Phillip, people still get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing on that one. But when you did

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<v Speaker 1>send me this, I I I laughed a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of laughing because of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you just heard right like they're they're the misspellings.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's everything going on, and and just got too fat,

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<v Speaker 1>like straight to the point. I actually I enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I actually texted back L O L and

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I hate text shorthand and I never used it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did. I did that. I did it. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you wrote to be I mean, let me see,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate L O L, but I actually am doing

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. So this listing forced you to briefly

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<v Speaker 1>embrace text acronyms. Um Anyhow, the description mirrors mirrors the

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<v Speaker 1>listing title. It reads, fishing waiters spelled the same way

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half. I just got too fat. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I feel like it's at least possible

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<v Speaker 1>that that there's a shred of honesty here, Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, I think it's totally to be honest. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no it Uh. This one reminds me of the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little less tragic, but it reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys selling a surf gear because he hates his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like my dad's selling because my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>a Jersey Yeah that guy. Yeah, it makes me. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this level of honesty in a in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a sale post because it it reassures you. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>saying there's nothing wrong with this gear, Like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with these waiters. They're not leak in and and

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<v Speaker 1>and getting you all cold. They just don't fit because

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<v Speaker 1>I got fat. And I I believe that because he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to be that honest in his text, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of a brilliant strategy. Really. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also I sympathize with with his dilemma because

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<v Speaker 1>lord knows, I've been there, Like I have friends be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving me a practically brand new SIMS foul weather suit,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? And I'm like, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really, I don't really, I don't wear gray anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like, didn't you just get this a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago? Yeah? Yeah, I did, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you, brother, I feel like, oh man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna touch I'm not gonna touch that one, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave that alone. Um. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we have to dive into the waiters a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because as much as I appreciate his presentation, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a little issue with with this product and pricing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>asking fifty bucks. But these are Fish America Pro gear waiters.

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<v Speaker 1>These are not your sims G four z s people.

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<v Speaker 1>These are these are like that stock brand that you

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<v Speaker 1>find at Walmart or Kmart or whatever you got. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not dogging on that kind of waiters. I've worn

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of them, but I doubt they cost more than

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<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks retail off the shelf. Yeah, I agree, because

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<v Speaker 1>these are the caliber waiters I bought for years, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, school in college, and you just buy them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would always just expect to buy a new

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<v Speaker 1>pair the following year. You know, they were what they were.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was I was thinking the same thing because

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say they were eighty bucks, right, So thirty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks off isn't bad, but it's it's too risky of

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<v Speaker 1>an item, right. Waiters are one of those ones like

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<v Speaker 1>used waiters, You're you're taking a risk there because you

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<v Speaker 1>will be very uncomfortable. So I mean, I assume that

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy, you know, he's saying I got too fat,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's being honest, right, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a risk. Like if I need to back

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<v Speaker 1>up waiters and saw these at a yard sale or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still taking your word no matter how nice you

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<v Speaker 1>come off, that they don't leak. So for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks, I might, I might take that shot, but

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<v Speaker 1>fifty I don't know. Yeah, I dropped twenty on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I'd go as high as fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But hopefully, hopefully someone does buy these from from this

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<v Speaker 1>particular individual, because I, as I've already said, I applaud

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<v Speaker 1>their honesty and their their their sales technique, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope whoever winds up in them is very happy

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<v Speaker 1>and stays dry and they fit great. We both got

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<v Speaker 1>a very good laugh out of this one, and UH

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<v Speaker 1>and all of you out there continued to send us

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<v Speaker 1>just such good sale bin items and we love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if and when you find a listing that you

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<v Speaker 1>think we should we should spend some time with, just

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<v Speaker 1>pass along to Bent at the meat eater dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the kind of person that would be skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of buying old hip boots out a garage sale, you

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<v Speaker 1>might also be skeptical of our ability to deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>most pertinent and accurate current events and fishing. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and earn your trust anyway. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly. Alright, I have

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<v Speaker 1>um kind of a cool shout out this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to thank fifteen year old Marion Brosick because she

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<v Speaker 1>let me borrow her net. Okay, now hear me out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great, Yeah, okay, Okay, you're gonna love this

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<v Speaker 1>for multiple reasons. Marin is the are my buddy Eric

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<v Speaker 1>bro Sick, and Eric he runs shuttle for us time

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<v Speaker 1>to time on a particular river um p A n

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<v Speaker 1>p A here in Northeast and a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>I'm het up with my bud Nick Rafts, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a professional full time trout fishing guide on said river.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on the show. We've had nickels show right,

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<v Speaker 1>And as as we're dumping his boat in, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>around and I'm like, bro, you bring a net. And

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<v Speaker 1>now Nick Nick claims his net must have been stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll go with that. I'm gonna you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let him have it. Your net got stolen. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>we had no net. Okay, And suffice it to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like in this river, especially in the middle of the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't hooking a lot of trout, but generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>if you pin one, you're gonna one a net. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eric was with us, and out of the kindness

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<v Speaker 1>of his heart, he drove Nick's rigg with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer in tow to his own house and came

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<v Speaker 1>back with two net options, both of which were extremely short,

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<v Speaker 1>short handled wooden waiting nets like the standard waiting on them,

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<v Speaker 1>No there were there were no magnets, so we just

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<v Speaker 1>went with the one with the with the bigger hoop,

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<v Speaker 1>which turns out to be the net Eric had made

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<v Speaker 1>for Marin for Christmas a couple of years ago, custom

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<v Speaker 1>complete with a lovely purple lanyard, and while it was

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<v Speaker 1>awkward to wheel on a driftboat, we put a nine

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty three in it. So Maren apparently heard about

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<v Speaker 1>this later and was so happy her net came through

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Um, she told her dad she should be

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<v Speaker 1>on fish news. So, Maren, you've been on fish news. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you for the net loan. Um. You you

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<v Speaker 1>had the proper tool. A full time professional trout fishing

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<v Speaker 1>guide did not, and I thank you for that. Props

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Maren, well done saving the day. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one quick thing too, and several different listeners

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<v Speaker 1>forwarded me this, so I'm just gonna cover it real quick. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever noticed how it seems like whenever we

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<v Speaker 1>get on a roll with particular kinds of stories, something

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<v Speaker 1>along those same lines just keeps popping up everywhere, Like

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<v Speaker 1>like the last couple of weeks, we've each talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Wells catfish eating birds, right, And I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do another full news story on it because two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>in rows enough. But just this last week, National Geographic

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<v Speaker 1>published a feature about Wells catfish titled Enormous Pigeon eating

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<v Speaker 1>catfish Wreaking havoc on Europe's ecosystems. We we can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it because we also told people duck lawyers are stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>So we can't keep talking about all these bird eating fish.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we can't, but I do want to ship

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<v Speaker 1>like seriously, thanks to everybody said to me. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good read. And uh and I'll just for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you aren't going to read it because most of

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't. The coolest little nugget in there is about

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<v Speaker 1>how Wells catfish in France have adapted to intentionally like

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<v Speaker 1>feed on and prey upon the country's significant population of pigeons.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of do it the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>that sharks will grab prey off of beaches. The catfish

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<v Speaker 1>are just like cruising right along the edge where we're

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<v Speaker 1>the birds congregate and and and they wait for a

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<v Speaker 1>pigeon to to get too close, and then they throw

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<v Speaker 1>themselves up on shore or grab a pigeon and like

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<v Speaker 1>flop back into the water. It's it's really cool. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And and if you do read the article, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>one photo it's so good. It's like a drone shot

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<v Speaker 1>from above of this pack of Wells catfish circling this

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<v Speaker 1>little island that's just covered up in pigeons. Sneaky, they're

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<v Speaker 1>sneaky like that. Yeah, that's my shout out and and

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<v Speaker 1>and suggestion for some quick reading. As always, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a competition. Joe and I do not know which stories

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<v Speaker 1>the other one is bringing, and at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>it are illustrious and might add very handsome audio engineer

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<v Speaker 1>Phil will declare a winner. And then after that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna drip the soothing baritone of River Horse right into

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<v Speaker 1>your ear holes. Joe, you're up first, man. That was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>That was way to butter up. Philth that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was good, buttering very good. Okay, So I get to

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<v Speaker 1>kick here, and this is such a relatable story I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even believe it. Very excited about this when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to us from Michigan's m live dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>the headline is simply police solved mystery of a band

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<v Speaker 1>an ice fishing gear. Now, to tell this story properly,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to change their chronology and flow around just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, because it's gonna make it funnier. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's how breaks down. On Saturday, January nine,

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<v Speaker 1>police were called to Melancamp Lake because someone reported that

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<v Speaker 1>there was ice fishing gear on the lake near a

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<v Speaker 1>sizeable hole in the ice that looked like a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where someone fell through. Okay, And and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this was noticed, the hole it actually refrozen over, the

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<v Speaker 1>story said, with a little more than an inch of ice.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely scary and something worth calling the cops over.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's freaky, right, um, And enrolled the Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office dive team the fire department, and they

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<v Speaker 1>went all in. They broke through the ice, they checked

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<v Speaker 1>for a body in the water, but all they recovered

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<v Speaker 1>from the water was more ice fishing gear. There was

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<v Speaker 1>just more ice fishing gear down the hole, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the police fascinating story. I wait, you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna love it. Uh. The police then went door

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<v Speaker 1>to door asking if anyone had seen anything or if

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone was missing, but but they weren't. There were

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<v Speaker 1>no missing person's reports in the area. So the police

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<v Speaker 1>put the photos of the recovered gear on social media. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was quickly recognized by a dad. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>give the dad's name, but by a dad of two

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<v Speaker 1>local fourteen year old boys, and he said, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that ice fishing gear, and then he confronted his sons,

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<v Speaker 1>who had in fact gone ice fishing on January nine. Furthermore, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they were very upfront about having fallen through the ice

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<v Speaker 1>while they were ice fishing. Okay, but they managed to

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<v Speaker 1>get out safely. Um the day it happened, however, they

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<v Speaker 1>came home wet and empty handed, and Dad said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>where's all the ice fishing gear? And the kids told

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<v Speaker 1>him it all went down the hall it's gone. But

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Obviously that wasn't true, because there was gear

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<v Speaker 1>left on the ice, which prompted the call to police.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the catch here, Well, well, the gear

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole were found on Meloncamp Lake, and on

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<v Speaker 1>January nine, the dad had given the boys explicit instructions

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<v Speaker 1>to not fish on Meloncamp Lake the day of the incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys lied and said they were on Little Wolf Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a dad approved ice fishing venue. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as a parent, there's certainly the very scary, unfunny aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of this. But if you can't appreciate the humor, because

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<v Speaker 1>in our teenage years, we've we've all like figuratively been

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<v Speaker 1>right here and created an inadvertent ship storm for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That just spirals. Okay, and I figure after the scare.

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<v Speaker 1>After they got out of the water. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>two were like, okay, dude, we cannot tell Dad. We

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<v Speaker 1>were on Melancamp Lake. And I bet one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was probably even like, but we left a rod in

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<v Speaker 1>a chair out there, and they just just leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just tell Dad we lost it. We lost everything

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<v Speaker 1>because fourteen year olds like there, your mind is so

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with lying your way out of your immediate problem

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<v Speaker 1>that I guarantee they did not have the foresight to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if somebody sees a rod in a giant hole

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<v Speaker 1>and a chair out there or whatever, they might call

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<v Speaker 1>the cops. I was, I was here. I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had a family boat with a big cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>and like my dad left me and a buddy down

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<v Speaker 1>there overnight. He headed home, and me and my my buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like seventeen, stayed down there. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you do tomorrow, just don't run

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<v Speaker 1>a boat from the bait shop. Like, what's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you do the next day? You go run a

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:27.160
<v Speaker 1>boat from the bait shop. You don't want to fish

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>on the dock. So I get it, um, But to

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>bring closer to this, right, the dad went to the

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>police station. When he went to reclaim his gear, he

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>brought the kids with him, and the officer quoted in

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the story, he says, if you could have seen the

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>looks on these kids faces when the dad brought them in,

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>they were scared to death, and the kids got it

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to about the importance of being truthful and listen

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to your parents. But the cops said, he really thinks

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the dad was hoping that that he'd be a lot

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 1>harder on them, but he just couldn't do it. He

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was just happy they were okay. He just couldn't do it.

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But I understand that, right I would have hoped that

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to have been, like, here's a hundo, you can cut

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>him and throw him in a sell or, so I'll

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>come back and get them. You know, I don't I

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have to deal with this ever again.

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Can you can you help me? All? That's what I appreciate.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like a goofy little thing, but I appreciate, like

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like that one detail that a fourteen year old

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>you overlooked, that just took that like now there are

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>police involved and knocking on doors and calls to action

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and dive teams just because you couldn't just run back

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>out and pick up the chair and the rod. I mean,

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those most where I wish I could.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could talk to these kids, but I

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>also wish I could talk to fourteen year old me

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, if you start the lies, they're

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>just gonna stack up on top of each other and

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>eventually they're gonna be too many lies for you to

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>keep track of and you're gonna be screwed. So just don't.

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Just don't do it. Just don't start what happened here, kids,

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>just you know ice safety. Listen to your dad, says me.

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>The dad, now who didn't listen to my dad, just

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>forget everything. I just said, yeah, I know my kids

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna like fourteen year old We wouldn't listen to

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>four year old me would be like whatever, old man,

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I'll tack on. Good on you for

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>going ice fishing for a couple of fourteen years, going

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>out on their own. Not that doesn't happen enough anybody.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I had no problem with that at all, And good

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>on the dad for allowing that to happen, even though

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a dangerous activity. Yes, yes, I can support that.

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh and then we haven't really gotten to it yet,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but we will at some point in this show have

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 1>a substantive discussion about the massive advances in technology and

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>ice fishing. There's been a lot of coverage about that

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>kicking around lately, there has, and I haven't picked any

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>of it up. But because there's not not been in

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I'm like, I gotta bring it to

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to fish News. But I will say that that I

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>can't wait for us to find the right avenue for

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that conversation because I think it's one that people want

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to want to hear from us about. And though the

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>story on butt Cella has nothing to do with ice

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>fishing ice fishing gear, it does have to do with

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>fish and technology and uh and and I'm gonna I'm

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with a story about robot fish and and

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and not the robotic fish lures that that you brought

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in and we discussed a few weeks back. Still think

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>those are lame hooks off it's a robot fish, and

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>just saying these particular robot fish I think are far

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>more interesting than than those things. So that's that's that's

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>my my intro there um Roboticists at Harvard University have

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>come up with what they call blue bots, which are

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>four in robot fish loosely designed to mimic Indo Pacific

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>reefish called blue tangs. These blue bots they have they

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>have tails that flap just like like a fish, and

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>that's how they they propel themselves with the water, and

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>they have dorsal fins that can move to control their direction.

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>They also have three and sixty degree camera eyes and

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>then blue led lights on their backs, and these fish

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>can be programmed to visually locate one another and mimic

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the complex schooling behaviors of real fish. For example,

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the blue bots they can arrange themselves into that that

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>swirling tornado that bait fish do when they're trying to

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>avoid predators. They spiral around and not run into each

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>other and keep that tight tex. They can go out

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and locate objects in their environment and then alert the

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>others in the school to where the location is, so

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>they all they all go there together. And that might

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>not sound particularly impressive, but but the the ultimate goal

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of this technology, which is developed based on observations of

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>actual schooling fish in the wild, it could have some

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty badass implications. For example, they think it might help

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in aiding open water rescue missions, UH, seeking out and

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>destroying harmful invasive species like lionfish, monitoring deep water infrastructure,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>helping us better understand how and why fish school improving

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>self driving cars, or even finally allowing us to colonize Mars.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's a that's a big one there. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that's where that's that's the one you didn't secum up.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>The key is the developing robots that utilize collective intelligence

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to dictate their actions, just like schooling fish to Instead

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of individual intelligence, it's a collective intelligence. And and here's

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a long quote that I think sums

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it up pretty well from Wired magazine. This is the

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>power of the crowd. A team of blue bots in

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.239
<v Speaker 1>constant communication and an exceedingly simple form of communication at

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that can work together to accomplish a mission. This is

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>more fantasy than reality for now, but think about going

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. If Elon Musk and all the other rich

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>guys want to pull that off. Before humans can inhabit

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the planet, they'll need shelters, so you would have to

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>send robot teams beforehand. And on Mars there's no way

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to control the robots because there's too much latency for

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a signal to go from here to Mars, so they

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>really need a high degree of autonomy without humans around

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to fix the mistakes. They'll have to cooperate perfectly to

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>pull off complex construction tasks, all while navigating the rough

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Martian to rain that's so heavy and scary. So there

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you go. If Elon Musk ever gets to build his

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>creepy Martian utopia, we will have fish to thank for it. Yeah,

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get there and be like, oh, thanks

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>for building all this welcome, and they'll kill us because

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>now they live there, right, don't having these people seen?

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Terminator man like this is this is exactly how this

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>ship begins. I'm not I'm not actually all that that

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>excited about the colonizing Mars thing. But the other ways

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that they're thinking about using this technology I think is

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>really cool, like like track it down line fish, like

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sending these things out of seeking destroy robots to kill

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>lion fish, super cool, monitoring infrastructure, super cool, keeping an

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>eye on on ecosystems without having to send people out,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>all very useful. My only concern is, like if we

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>send out deployed too many of these. It feels like

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>we're sending a lot of potential trash out of the oceans.

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>But I see how the benefits could out with the risks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And and on one hand, there's the part of me

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>that's like, this is too much, this has gone too far.

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't, I don't want this. But if

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>all the things you rattled off, these could do like

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>little lion fish sniper butts, That's cool, that's really cool.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Like that's I want in on that, like like that program,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>just like reef and they just like seeking. I mean,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that's that's badass. Um. Also, I have to imagine that

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the animated Lord people are knocking on the door, because

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this right here is the next iteration of the a

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>rig just a whole school of um I have one

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>animated Lord. When you have a whole and time you

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>could you can just make your own baseball. They've all

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>got a hook in them. They all speak to each other.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>See what you've done. See the ideas we're giving people? Now, Yeah,

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna ruin fishing. Okay, good transition here, though, because

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>because my next story sort of ties that future uristic

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>technology and where it's going with like is that good

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>or bad? And there's kind of some good things. I

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know anyway, This is local to me, but the

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the overriding subject cannon is affecting a lot more people

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>in a lot more places. Okay. So this is from

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the app dot com headline you can fish our turbines. Okay.

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>So there's a there's a big proposal. It seems to

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>be moving to the next phases to build a giant

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>wind farm off the Jersey coast. Okay, and now the

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>whole field of those massive turbines that have ey sword

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>millions of acres and ruining what we're stunning views in

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>some places in my opinion anyway, this would be a

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>new thing for Jersey. But these turbines already exist off

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>many other coasts, including Rhode Island. Apparently there's a farm

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of them off Rhode Island. The proposal for Jerors put

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the turbines ten to twenty miles off shore, a little

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>southeast of Barnegat Inlet Um. So this is from the story.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>There are many details to be worked out regarding the

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Shores offshore winds lease site. The wind energy developer

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>has a message to fishermen, they are welcome to try

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>their luck there. And today I say, thanks Atlantic Shore

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>off Shore Wind. But let me say something, we planned

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>on it already, Like we were kind of already going

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that no matter what you said, okay, and

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the developers said it will it will not exclude anglers

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>from the roughly eighty three thousand acre wind farm. They

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just asked that we please not tie off our boats

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to them. And I mean, that's a fine rule. Best

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>of luck with that too. Suffice it to say, in

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, Transit has a hard enough time policing anglers

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that trespass on the railroad tracks to catch stripers at

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the bridges on land. Um. And I mean there's even

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a real guy sitting in a little railroad house there,

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's a problem. So don't be shocked people if

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>some folks tie off to your turbines. Just a heads up. Anyway,

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the turbines off Rhode Island are already a fishing hotspot.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Per the story, I don't know that much about them,

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that's just from the story. And then it says and

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I find this caveat interesting. Um, jes how well turbines

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>attract fish is still under much study. It says that

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Noah actually conducted a study on this and found that

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>black sea bass, which are a really important species here

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>commercially and recreationally, are sensitive to the sound created by

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>wind turbines, so they don't like them. Um. In fact,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>many anglers, both on the commercial and recreational side, have

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>raised a concern that the electromagnetic field that that these

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>turbines and the whole field of them will create will

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>actually scare fish away. Um. And the developers say that

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>because the cables will be they're gonna be buried at

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>least six ft below the ocean floor, this won't be

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a problem. So here's what I say, man, Like, I'm

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>all for other sources of energy, but I god, I

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>hate looking at those things that I'm sure I've been

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to so many places where it's just miles of them

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in every direction. So at least they're they're not an

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>eesre offshore like at least they're their way out there,

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>so they're not you know. Um. But that said, I'm excited,

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't give a damn about black

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>sea bass really, but I mean, there's gonna be Mahi

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and Kobea and to me, it creates sort of one

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>of those who knows kinds of areas where where all

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>kinds of odd ball shit will show up, you know,

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>like we live. We live in that area where sort

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of the southern species and fisheries kind of cross over

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>here in the summer, like kingfish king Max as an example,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>they're called off Jersey all summer long. But it's pretty random,

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 1>like you just catch one out there in the great

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>wide open while you're targeting something else. Right now, you

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>put a bunch of of of turbines out there, you're

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>providing exactly the kind of structure that they cling to

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>down south where there's oil rigs. So I, I mean,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I find it from a fishing standpoint very exciting. We've

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>never had anything like this here and rig fishing in

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the Gulf has always been one of my favorite things.

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be a few years out before this

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>is established, I think, and we can go fish them.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, man, it's something different. I don't know.

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you are on the wind farms,

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Probably a lot I could say about wind Yeah, I

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>do have a lot of I can say about wind farms.

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not opposed. Let me, let me start there, and

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm in favor of finding alternative sources of

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>energy that that we can make work and that are

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>viable and actually productive. I think though that technology has potential,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it also has potential drawbacks. What I'm what I you

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you teat up the oil rig thing, which is exactly

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that's where I went to, right, because those are such

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>important spots for for for anglers in the Gulf, and

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you just go target so many fish every yeah, and

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>then so much stuff, and there's there's sort of like

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean to be crass or cynical,

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>but there's already sort of this like cultural cage match

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 1>between petroleum and UH and alternative energies. And I feel

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like we can just extend this out into fishing and

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, who's got the best fish habitat

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>oil rigs and wind farms and like, you know, find

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>another way for us to fight over what kind of

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>energy sources we put up. Not that that's a good thing,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but I am curious to see how it goes. Yeah,

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I would say riggs are gonna win because looking at

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>sounds like this offshore turbines, you know, it's not like

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a straight telephone pole going into the ocean. There is

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a base and and legs, but there's just not as

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>much metal and hidy holes and things down there as

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>an oil ring. Um. But I I don't know, man,

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I think over time it would actually have the potential

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to create, you know, consistent fisheries here that are not

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>consistent Cheep's head, King Max, stuff like that. That kind

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of pitter patter around here beaunifar between. But man, you

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 1>put some some metal out there like that, I'm I'm excited.

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'll say. I think. I think if there

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>are any offshore wind farm developers listening to the show,

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>fat chance. But if you are, here's your opportunity to

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>get a large chunk of people on board with you.

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>If you want to get local support. Tell them you're

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna redesign the basis of those things to have more

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>structure and hidy holes and intentionally create fish gathering habitat,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and I bet you get a whole lot more fishermen

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>on board. Put a bent logo on every single blade.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 1>What does that say? It's moving really fast? I can't

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>see it. Uh. Look, I think if that happens, it

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>will create a potentially great fishery for a very localized

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>group of folks. And as we do sometimes we focus

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>on very localized stories and this, this next one I've

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>got is one of those super localized stories. But I

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty interesting. Um. The final story of the

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>day comes to us from the local Minneapolis ABC affiliate

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>with the headline Lake Minnetonka anglers rush to save thousands

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of game fish and like, if you go check this out,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>it's a totally standard local evening news segment. Like it's

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>just it's a lot of really bad b roll of

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like scenery and dead fish and this frozen creek cut

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>together with just one interview of an older gentleman who's

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>hanging out around the creek. I think after the story

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it already kind of ended. And I'm not I'm actually

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>not ragging. I want to be clear, I'm not ragging

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>on local news reporters, because those folks get like five

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>buck one camera in twenty minutes to go and shoot

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and edit a ten minute piece and it sucks for them.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just I'm just trying to set the scene here.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>But here's this is the crux of the story. Minni haaha,

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Creek runs through Minneapolis and and it's it's the centerpiece

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for a series of urban parks around the city. The

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>creek connects Lake Minnetonka, which is the like the aquatic

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>playground of the Twin Cities, to to the Mississippi River.

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>A few days ago, residents and anglers around Minniehaha Creek

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>started noticing these huge numbers of fish congregating in the

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>pool just below Gray's Bay Dam, and a significant proportion

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of those fish were dead or dying. Gray's Bay damn

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>separates Lake Minnetonka from Minnehaha Creek, and it was built

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 1>in nine to control seasonal flooding. From May through October,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the Watershed District opens the head gates and monitors the

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>flow to roughly mimic natural seasonal patterns while holding back

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>any catastrophic floodwaters. But from December through April, those gates

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>get completely shut. And when that happens, the creek loses

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>most of its influence and it doesn't run dry, but

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>it loses most of that flow out of the out

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the lake it and it ices over and then

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>oxygen levels start to drop, and when that happens, all

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>the fish that are they're hanging out in that creek,

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>start looking for a more suitable habitat, but they're kind

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>of screwed. Downstream passage gets blocked by minni haha falls,

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and then if they try and go upstream back in

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the lake, they run in the dam. So the result

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what you see captured in this local news story.

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's this big creek, like a big pool

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>right at the head of the creek, and it's just

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>full of fish and they're all slowly running out of oxygen.

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 1>They got nowhere to go. Not surprisingly, a group of locals,

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>many of whom seem to be anklers, decided they were

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>going to step in and try and save the fish,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>or or at least the specific fish that they hope

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>they could catch in the future. Right. They're they're definitely

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>selectively being like, oh, there's a nice bath. There's exactly

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and all these all these folks have been like showing

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>up there and gearing up with waiters and nets and

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like someone just have treble hooks and snagging lines and

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 1>they're just gathering fish, piling them into wheelbarrows and then

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>ferrying them over the dam and and drilling holes in

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the lake and dropping the fish through the holes in

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the ice back into the lake. Okay, so Ken Martinson,

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the angler who was interviewed for the local news story,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>estimated that they had saved about two thousand fish, specifically

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at bass, northerns, and big muskies. The Minnesota Department

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of Natural Resources told the local news station that the

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>annual fish skills are quote a natural process every year,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and that some fish will die as oxygen levels go

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>down with the ice cover. The DNR added that winter

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>fish rescues are not generally done as nature takes its course.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>So I am all for allowing nature to take its course,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes that does mean winter kill, whether we're talking

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>about terrestrial or wildlife. Animals die in winner. That happens,

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and and we can't and we shouldn't try and save

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>them all. But calling this particular situation a natural process

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just it doesn't. It doesn't work for me because it's

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a direct result of closing the damn and that's

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 1>not natural, right, Like, I want to be clear, I'm

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>not saying Minnesota dn R is wrong. It's there, it's

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 1>their logic, it's it's the justification that they used. There.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 1>The new natural the natural as we've made it kind

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>of I'm if so if they were if they had said,

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>if they had just said, you know, something like that

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>watershed has healthy game fish numbers and the winter killing

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>minnie haha, creek doesn't pose enough of a threat to

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the overall populations to justify the resources it would take

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>for a fish rescue. I would be totally fine with that.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, cool, that's a bummer, but I get

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it so so like I wish that. I get that

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that may have not sounded as good in a in

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a press release statement, but I feel like that's the

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>more honest answer, and I wish that that's what they'd

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>gone with. And despite all that, if I were one

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of those local anglers and I walked up on all that,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I'd be wadering up and grabbing my

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>nep net and being like, oh, there's there's a good one.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting that. I'd do the same thing that these

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>folks are doing. I think I would, like even if

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>even if I knew that the outcome didn't really matter

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of the health of fisher, Like,

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>even if I knew that saving that one muskie was

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>completely symbolic. Because the chances of me ever catching that

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 1>musky in the future are zero, I think I'd still

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>do it. I do it. I mean, yeah, I it'd

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>be hard to see big muskies and northerns just just

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>flopping there but just dying sadly. If you and I

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>walked up on this and it was like a bunch

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>of suckers or something, I I probably wouldn't And that's

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of my point, right that it's totally

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a symbolic act that makes those those folks feel good.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not dogging on either the d n R

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or those people because I get where both of them

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>are coming from. I wish the DNR being a little

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>more honest about it. But I also think if I

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>were one of those anglers, even if I knew it

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>was a pointless thing to do, I'd probably be down

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>there scooping with them. And one one final point I

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>have to add here there there's a literary angle for

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>me in their story. Mini Haaha Creek is named for

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a fictional character in the epic Longfellow poem Song of Hiawatha.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 1>In that poem, the protagonist's great love Minnie haha, meets

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>an untimely and tragic but unavoidable end when she dies

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in the midst of a severe winter. Oh man. So

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you if you had a poetic flare,

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you might say that the game fish in that creek,

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that that they get trapped. Every winner just kind of

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>adhering to a fate inherent in the name of the

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>creek where they are, you know. Ah, there's also a

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>musical tie. And didn't didn't Prince say why don't you

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 1>purify yourselves in the waters of Lake Minnetonka? Was that?

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Or was that Chappellee Chapelle? Every time some I appreciate

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>every time somebody says lake Minnetonka, I have to say

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to myself, why don't you purify yourself in the waters

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>of Lake Minnetonka? So thank you. Yeah. So that that's

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm ending on. That one was with was

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 1>was longfellow? Well Phil can take over now, Phil, I'm

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm quickly trying to remember what we talked about Minni

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>ha ha, scooping muskies and piking the wheelbarrows? What did

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I talk about today? Lying, dirty, lying teenagers who who

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>scared scared their parents to death. It's a Smorg's board

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities of fish news here for you. Phil picked

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the morsel that seems most delectable. Joseph Millie, you're the

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>winner this week. And guys, before you find all my

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>fishing gear on the ice and unraveled this for yourselves,

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I have something to tell you. A few weeks ago,

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I made this joke about how I couldn't find a

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>PS five in stores, and you guys very graciously wish

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that I found my PS five for Christmas, and I

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta come clean. I've had a PS five since November.

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I play so many video games that Sony

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>invited me to a private preorder waiting room to get

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it directly from them. So there you have it. I'm

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a pasty indoor kid. And if I ever turn in

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>this podcast late, it was probably because I spent the

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>entire day playing demon souls like a middle schooler during

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>summer vacation. And now this is a river Horse coming

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to you from the Deep South with some Sage Lee wisdom.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Today we're gonna take a little trip to the country club.

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>What's that you ask, Verhorse, Are you a member of

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a country club? Why? Yes, The whole earth is our

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 1>country club. But as far as this particular country club

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>goes ah nah. But there's golf there. Do I play golf?

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good one. If I did, my driver

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>would be in eight weight and my golf ball at

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>dear hair frog. But you know what is there that

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I do find quite interesting? A bunch of bass ponds

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>along the course. So let's go check it out. Come

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>along the country club with an initial membership vie a

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand bucks and another grand a month for dues.

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Sits along a few ponds that, based on satellite images,

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>are dark, greasy, weedy and sublime. I try to imagine

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>paying fifty grand for something, but that doesn't really register

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>even my flat skiff. I sold a guitar to get it.

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>One of the secrets of fancy country clubs is that

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the greens are shut down for maintenance one day a week. Here.

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>That day is Monday. That's why I like to stop

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 1>on by. According to the groundskeeper, the bass are from

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a strain first stocked in the nineteen forties. They are

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>absolute slabs. He tells me. Oh that's interesting, I replied

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>from the truck, feigning boredom. The first couple of trips

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I went there. The place was empty. As with any

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>set of gates with a guard, it's best to act

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>like you belong there. I rolled through it a respectful

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:53.240
<v Speaker 1>but confidence twenty miles and hold a pair of fingers

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>out the door. Hey, hey, so good to see you,

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 1>and keep right on rolling to the back park a lot.

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I've never really understood the concept of golf, although I've

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>always known a life without obsession is worthless, so I

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 1>can relate on some level. Still, do they realize how

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 1>many stellar fly rods you could buy instead of a

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:22.919
<v Speaker 1>set of clubs, an eight weight versus a five iron?

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Behold the shooting head with the

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>clouser or frog attached and watch this ninety ft draft.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for me this time, when I show up to

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>fish golf as one, there's a tournament going on from

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>far away, it looks like the crowd is congregated against

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the distance side of the course, leaving the seedy backwater

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 1>ponds open. Well, it's where I want to fish anyway,

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Quickly line up the fly rod and go for it.

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.240
<v Speaker 1>There's something about casting a fly road we all unconsciously

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>know a simple rhythm of it puts the rest of

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the world in the rear view mirror. It doesn't even

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>seem real to me. I'm already lost, gliding a stout

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>frog the size of a hard bowed egg, deep into

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the recesses of the cove when I realized that the

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>petting green above me is filled with hundreds of golf fans.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Some of them are looking down at me. Let I

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>see telephoto lenses, film cameras, polo shirts with the colors up,

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and even the guy holding the flag. And then I

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 1>see the wicked take of a seven pounder crushing the frog,

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and I strips it hard while the throngs of a

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>crowd stopped the golf tournament to cock. The bass finally

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>ms alongside the manicured grass bank of the putting green,

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>where we can all get a good look at him broadside,

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>just for good measure. He tells gravity to kiss his

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>ass and tail walks with gills blared and heaving the

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>last few feet of water. I can't breathe for a second.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful. Thousands of the fans scream and a plod,

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and some dork ask gives a long cat co whistle.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Then I see golf carts coming my way, A lot

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of them. Oh lordy, this is about to get exciting.

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You obviously aren't remember here. Do you know who is

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that up there? Bellows the course official after he removes

0:50:55.520 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the unlit cigar from his mouth, going for levity, as say,

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>whoever it is, just saw me stick a sweet bass.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 1>The country club cop proves to be a tough audience

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:14.720
<v Speaker 1>in yells that's bleep in certain name of famous veteran

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>pro golfer. Here he's trying to qualify for the U

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>S Open. Get in the cart now. Thus begins the

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>golf cart slow and bizarre raety of shame. I slide

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>into the seat next to him, or what's left of it.

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>We crawled past the onlookers with their frowns, smirks and

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>disgusted glares. I miss the days when you could moon

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>people and not get in trouble. These guys could have

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>used a good rowdy pressed ham the old hogback growler.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm pushing the limits pretty hard already, and

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not sure if there'll be a trespassing ticket.

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>So I behave and break down the rod. One two three,

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I count five other golf carts following at the parking lot,

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I refrain from many more jokes as I show them

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the tail lights of the truck and reach for a

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>beer from the cooler. I recently found yet another country

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>club down the road from our former president lives. The

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>membership is more than a hundred thousand bucks a year.

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Sweet Jesus, what do they have in there? Tarban Oh,

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know next Monday. And that's our sagely

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>wisdom for today. And what have we learned? Let the

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>world be your country club? Now get out there and

0:52:54.880 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>stick em. Well, that was my favorite stagey wisdom yet

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>river Horse, mind too? You nailed it, Man, mind too, Man,

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you absolutely nailed it. But I mean truth is I

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>am and river Horse knows this. I'm a sucker for

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>anything that pokes fun of golf or golf culture. I

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>actually worked for for a short time as a server

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>at a country club for a few months and uh

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and it was so many things, security guard, country club.

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of shitty jobs, man, and uh

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and but that one was like my own personal hell, right,

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and I have so many like we don't have time

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>sometimes in another context, I will maybe write a book

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. But there weren't even any bass ponds on

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the course that I could go sneak away and fish

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and get fired. It's well, they see. This actually makes

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>me realize how jealous I am of river Horse and

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>guys like him in general. And I'll tell you why.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that. Never in my life have I

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 1>fished somewhere I wasn't supposed to be right, But on

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>those rare rare, very very rare occasional super rare um

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't exactly relaxed while I was doing it, you

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. The river Horse breaker. Yeah, not now.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>But then you have dudes like river Horse that not

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>only do they pull it off, but they're just totally

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>chill about it and they're not sweating the consequences. And

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I admire I admire that confidence. I admire that attitude

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>of like it's all good and so what if we

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>get caught, man, nothing bad is gonna happen. Where I'm like,

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 1>oh fine, let's we'll just get in and make a

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.280
<v Speaker 1>couple of casts and get the hell out of here. Okay,

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just get in real quick, and Castle will go because

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't want to go to jail. Okay, he'd

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>river Horse would tell me like I like you let

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the man bring you down. It's probably say to me, no, no, no,

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>river Horse would would never like judge like that. I

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>don't I think I can confidently say. I think his

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>response will be something like, that's your journey Homebray, you

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 1>find your own whips sticking it to the man. Maybe

0:54:58.200 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he'll call in and tell me I was wrong. But

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 1>but that's how I think you would respond, And I

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>hope not alright. So so moving on, speaking of the man,

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna skip end of line this week

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>for once, not forever. It's coming back soon, but just

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>this week. And uh. Instead, we're gonna slot in a

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>tackle hacks because we've got a really good one from

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the Big bass Man himself, also known as our buddy Oliver.

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 1>And I this is a This is a great tip

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>for for people like river Horse who sneak into golf courseponds,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>because you gotta maximize your efficiency before the security gets you.

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh and and if you're only gonna get intent casts,

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>this tip is gonna help you make them count. I'm

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:41.760
<v Speaker 1>getting hacks coming from inside the city, Hi the flood

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>joining us today on tackle hacks, very good friend of

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the program. Bass fishermen among all other fisheries extraordinaire. Oliver

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and I have big bass streams. What's going on? Man? Boys,

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you being here, I think, uh, I think it's

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.479
<v Speaker 1>fair to say that that we can all learn something

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>from you and your skills. You certainly get around and

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 1>fish for all kinds of different species, even though you

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>are most associated with bass. So I'm very curious because

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of your repertoire and and all the different things you

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 1>fish for, what you got for us for a tackle

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.800
<v Speaker 1>hack today? What is the the simple trick that is

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 1>stuck with you that you lean on often that can

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>help us all perhaps achieve our own big bass dreams? Well? Uh,

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>common flure style amongst multiple species is a jighead and

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a soft plastic. I've heard of this he somewhere. That's

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing. It kind of makes me cringe when I

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>look at guys that post these keeping piles of you

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>soft plastics. Like Man, I had an incredible day. I've

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>got a hundred dollars worth those soft baits that I

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>just burned through. When I grew up, Man, I was

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>really poor, so I would literally take every soft plastic

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 1>bait I was catching fish on that would rip off

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>my Texas rig worms, off my Carolina rigs, off my

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>little dater head and grub setups. And I would go

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 1>home and I'd take a lighter and I would melt

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>them all back together so I could keep using them

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and keep catching fish. And that still can be a thing.

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 1>But one one tackle hack that I figure it out,

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're working with the jighead and a soft bait,

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is to secure that plastic body with half a drop

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of superglue. So all you wanna do is take your jighead,

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>thread the head of your plastic up to the shank,

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and then apply that glue to that shank here right

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>on that curve, and push that bait into place. And

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>one single swoop, clean motion, and that little dab of

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 1>superglue is gonna achieve a couple of things. It's gonna

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>lock that plastic body onto that jighead, so when you're

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>getting short strike, your bait's not getting its pants pulled

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>down and now deemed inoperable. That's its most important component

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>in feature for me, as it keeps you actually fishing

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.479
<v Speaker 1>all of the time, all right. And then of course

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the cheap side of me, I mean, the frugal side

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>of me really likes the fact that I can catch

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, ten fish on a swim bait body like this,

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 1>if you know, lady luck is on my side instead

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of one fish per bait. So I'm a huge fan

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>of superglue in general. I use it for way too

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>many things, you know what i mean, even in fly tying,

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes I'm just lazy and like just put it,

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, drop superglue on there. But what I'm curious

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>about because I've heard about putting superglue on the collar

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of say a jighead, sort of slathering on the jam

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and it on. But you're talking about this one drip

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>down the the sort of the slick shank of the hook, right,

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious does it hold it in place securely

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>enough to do all those things but also make it

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>so you don't destroy your bait if you have to say,

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>change colors. Oh see, at that point, I'm just gonna

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>cut the jighead off, okay and grab another bait because

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it just it's not worth it. Got you, okay, I understand, Okay,

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>So you just gonna change out the whole jig head

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and sort of have all your colors lined up, but

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then those are all secure and they stay on there. Yeah. Typically,

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can figure out whatever color combo or

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>jakehead weight combo is working in a particular scenario, so

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you'll have a narrowed narrowed down by then and

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you're not having to continually switch. I love it, man,

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and particularly people spend a lot of money on hand pores.

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the handboard stuff is such a big deal

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 1>now and I use a lot of it, but I

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>just I mean it is softer, generally speaking than a

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of the molded stuff. So I have that problem

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>with hand poors a lot, and I use a lot

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>of handpoard swim baits like for dolphin and stripers out here.

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So there you go, glue on the shank. So that's

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it for this week, and I'd say we've completely outfitted

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you for a mashup of sports. NG. You're now fully

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>prepared to roll and blade over to the off course

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>with your ten car rode while wearing questionable waiters and

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 1>an overpriced powder blue hat. Please send selfies are you

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:09.840
<v Speaker 1>doing these things? Well? That was that was? That was

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>well done? And send those please if they had those exist,

1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:17.440
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1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.720
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1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.840
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1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:25.760
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1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:28.360
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1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:33.000
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1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:35.240
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1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:38.240
<v Speaker 1>are watching you. We really do hope you're all getting

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out on the water this weekend, whether that be liquid

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 1>or solid. However you find it, go enjoy it. And

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're getting out for trespassing, don't tell the man

1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.440
<v Speaker 1>we told you to do it. Do not implicate us

1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in matter