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Speaker 1: in our teenage years, we've we've all like figuratively been

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Speaker 1: right here and created an inadvertent ship storm for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: That just spirals. Okay, and I figure after the scare.

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Speaker 1: After they got out of the water. You know, these

426
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Speaker 1: two were like, okay, dude, we cannot tell Dad. We

427
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: were on Melancamp Lake. And I bet one of them

428
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: was probably even like, but we left a rod in

429
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: a chair out there, and they just just leave it.

430
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Speaker 1: We'll just tell Dad we lost it. We lost everything

431
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: because fourteen year olds like there, your mind is so

432
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Speaker 1: obsessed with lying your way out of your immediate problem

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Speaker 1: that I guarantee they did not have the foresight to say, yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: but if somebody sees a rod in a giant hole

435
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: and a chair out there or whatever, they might call

436
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: the cops. I was, I was here. I remember, like

437
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, we had a family boat with a big cabin,

438
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: and like my dad left me and a buddy down

439
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: there overnight. He headed home, and me and my my buddy,

440
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: we were like seventeen, stayed down there. And he's like,

441
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Speaker 1: I don't care what you do tomorrow, just don't run

442
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: a boat from the bait shop. Like, what's the first

443
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: thing you do the next day? You go run a

444
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: boat from the bait shop. You don't want to fish

445
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: on the dock. So I get it, um, But to

446
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Speaker 1: bring closer to this, right, the dad went to the

447
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Speaker 1: police station. When he went to reclaim his gear, he

448
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: brought the kids with him, and the officer quoted in

449
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: the story, he says, if you could have seen the

450
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: looks on these kids faces when the dad brought them in,

451
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: they were scared to death, and the kids got it

452
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: talking to about the importance of being truthful and listen

453
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Speaker 1: to your parents. But the cops said, he really thinks

454
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: the dad was hoping that that he'd be a lot

455
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: harder on them, but he just couldn't do it. He

456
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: was just happy they were okay. He just couldn't do it.

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00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: But I understand that, right I would have hoped that

458
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Speaker 1: to have been, like, here's a hundo, you can cut

459
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Speaker 1: him and throw him in a sell or, so I'll

460
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Speaker 1: come back and get them. You know, I don't I

461
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: don't want to have to deal with this ever again.

462
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Speaker 1: Can you can you help me? All? That's what I appreciate.

463
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: It's like a goofy little thing, but I appreciate, like

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Speaker 1: it's like that one detail that a fourteen year old

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Speaker 1: you overlooked, that just took that like now there are

466
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Speaker 1: police involved and knocking on doors and calls to action

467
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: and dive teams just because you couldn't just run back

468
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Speaker 1: out and pick up the chair and the rod. I mean,

469
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Speaker 1: this is one of those most where I wish I could.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could talk to these kids, but I

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Speaker 1: also wish I could talk to fourteen year old me

472
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Speaker 1: and say, you know, if you start the lies, they're

473
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: just gonna stack up on top of each other and

474
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna be too many lies for you to

475
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: keep track of and you're gonna be screwed. So just don't.

476
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Speaker 1: Just don't do it. Just don't start what happened here, kids,

477
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: just you know ice safety. Listen to your dad, says me.

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Speaker 1: The dad, now who didn't listen to my dad, just

479
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: forget everything. I just said, yeah, I know my kids

480
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: are gonna like fourteen year old We wouldn't listen to

481
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: four year old me would be like whatever, old man,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll tack on. Good on you for

483
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: going ice fishing for a couple of fourteen years, going

484
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: out on their own. Not that doesn't happen enough anybody.

485
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I had no problem with that at all, And good

486
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Speaker 1: on the dad for allowing that to happen, even though

487
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous activity. Yes, yes, I can support that.

488
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: Uh and then we haven't really gotten to it yet,

489
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: but we will at some point in this show have

490
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Speaker 1: a substantive discussion about the massive advances in technology and

491
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Speaker 1: ice fishing. There's been a lot of coverage about that

492
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: kicking around lately, there has, and I haven't picked any

493
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Speaker 1: of it up. But because there's not not been in

494
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Speaker 1: the thing that I'm like, I gotta bring it to

495
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Speaker 1: to fish News. But I will say that that I

496
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: can't wait for us to find the right avenue for

497
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Speaker 1: that conversation because I think it's one that people want

498
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: to want to hear from us about. And though the

499
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Speaker 1: story on butt Cella has nothing to do with ice

500
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: fishing ice fishing gear, it does have to do with

501
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: fish and technology and uh and and I'm gonna I'm

502
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Speaker 1: gonna go with a story about robot fish and and

503
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: and not the robotic fish lures that that you brought

504
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Speaker 1: in and we discussed a few weeks back. Still think

505
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: those are lame hooks off it's a robot fish, and

506
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Speaker 1: just saying these particular robot fish I think are far

507
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: more interesting than than those things. So that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: my my intro there um Roboticists at Harvard University have

509
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Speaker 1: come up with what they call blue bots, which are

510
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Speaker 1: four in robot fish loosely designed to mimic Indo Pacific

511
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Speaker 1: reefish called blue tangs. These blue bots they have they

512
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: have tails that flap just like like a fish, and

513
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: that's how they they propel themselves with the water, and

514
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: they have dorsal fins that can move to control their direction.

515
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Speaker 1: They also have three and sixty degree camera eyes and

516
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Speaker 1: then blue led lights on their backs, and these fish

517
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Speaker 1: can be programmed to visually locate one another and mimic

518
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Speaker 1: some of the complex schooling behaviors of real fish. For example,

519
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: the blue bots they can arrange themselves into that that

520
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: swirling tornado that bait fish do when they're trying to

521
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: avoid predators. They spiral around and not run into each

522
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: other and keep that tight tex. They can go out

523
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and locate objects in their environment and then alert the

524
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: others in the school to where the location is, so

525
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: they all they all go there together. And that might

526
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: not sound particularly impressive, but but the the ultimate goal

527
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: of this technology, which is developed based on observations of

528
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: actual schooling fish in the wild, it could have some

529
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: pretty badass implications. For example, they think it might help

530
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Speaker 1: in aiding open water rescue missions, UH, seeking out and

531
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: destroying harmful invasive species like lionfish, monitoring deep water infrastructure,

532
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: helping us better understand how and why fish school improving

533
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: self driving cars, or even finally allowing us to colonize Mars.

534
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's a that's a big one there. Yeah, yeah,

535
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: that's where that's that's the one you didn't secum up.

536
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: The key is the developing robots that utilize collective intelligence

537
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: to dictate their actions, just like schooling fish to Instead

538
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: of individual intelligence, it's a collective intelligence. And and here's

539
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: a kind of a long quote that I think sums

540
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: it up pretty well from Wired magazine. This is the

541
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: power of the crowd. A team of blue bots in

542
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: constant communication and an exceedingly simple form of communication at

543
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: that can work together to accomplish a mission. This is

544
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: more fantasy than reality for now, but think about going

545
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: to Mars. If Elon Musk and all the other rich

546
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: guys want to pull that off. Before humans can inhabit

547
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: the planet, they'll need shelters, so you would have to

548
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: send robot teams beforehand. And on Mars there's no way

549
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: to control the robots because there's too much latency for

550
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: a signal to go from here to Mars, so they

551
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: really need a high degree of autonomy without humans around

552
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: to fix the mistakes. They'll have to cooperate perfectly to

553
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: pull off complex construction tasks, all while navigating the rough

554
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Martian to rain that's so heavy and scary. So there

555
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: you go. If Elon Musk ever gets to build his

556
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: creepy Martian utopia, we will have fish to thank for it. Yeah,

557
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: and then we'll get there and be like, oh, thanks

558
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: for building all this welcome, and they'll kill us because

559
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: now they live there, right, don't having these people seen?

560
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Terminator man like this is this is exactly how this

561
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: ship begins. I'm not I'm not actually all that that

562
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: excited about the colonizing Mars thing. But the other ways

563
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: that they're thinking about using this technology I think is

564
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: really cool, like like track it down line fish, like

565
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: sending these things out of seeking destroy robots to kill

566
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: lion fish, super cool, monitoring infrastructure, super cool, keeping an

567
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: eye on on ecosystems without having to send people out,

568
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: all very useful. My only concern is, like if we

569
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: send out deployed too many of these. It feels like

570
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: we're sending a lot of potential trash out of the oceans.

571
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: But I see how the benefits could out with the risks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

572
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: And and on one hand, there's the part of me

573
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: that's like, this is too much, this has gone too far.

574
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, I don't want this. But if

575
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: all the things you rattled off, these could do like

576
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: little lion fish sniper butts, That's cool, that's really cool.

577
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Like that's I want in on that, like like that program,

578
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: just like reef and they just like seeking. I mean,

579
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: that's that's badass. Um. Also, I have to imagine that

580
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: the animated Lord people are knocking on the door, because

581
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: this right here is the next iteration of the a

582
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: rig just a whole school of um I have one

583
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: animated Lord. When you have a whole and time you

584
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: could you can just make your own baseball. They've all

585
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: got a hook in them. They all speak to each other.

586
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: See what you've done. See the ideas we're giving people? Now, Yeah,

587
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna ruin fishing. Okay, good transition here, though, because

588
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: because my next story sort of ties that future uristic

589
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: technology and where it's going with like is that good

590
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: or bad? And there's kind of some good things. I

591
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: don't know anyway, This is local to me, but the

592
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: the overriding subject cannon is affecting a lot more people

593
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: in a lot more places. Okay. So this is from

594
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: the app dot com headline you can fish our turbines. Okay.

595
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a big proposal. It seems to

596
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: be moving to the next phases to build a giant

597
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: wind farm off the Jersey coast. Okay, and now the

598
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: whole field of those massive turbines that have ey sword

599
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: millions of acres and ruining what we're stunning views in

600
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: some places in my opinion anyway, this would be a

601
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: new thing for Jersey. But these turbines already exist off

602
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: many other coasts, including Rhode Island. Apparently there's a farm

603
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: of them off Rhode Island. The proposal for Jerors put

604
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the turbines ten to twenty miles off shore, a little

605
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: southeast of Barnegat Inlet Um. So this is from the story.

606
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: There are many details to be worked out regarding the

607
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: Atlantic Shores offshore winds lease site. The wind energy developer

608
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: has a message to fishermen, they are welcome to try

609
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: their luck there. And today I say, thanks Atlantic Shore

610
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: off Shore Wind. But let me say something, we planned

611
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: on it already, Like we were kind of already going

612
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: to do that no matter what you said, okay, and

613
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: the developers said it will it will not exclude anglers

614
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: from the roughly eighty three thousand acre wind farm. They

615
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: just asked that we please not tie off our boats

616
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: to them. And I mean, that's a fine rule. Best

617
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: of luck with that too. Suffice it to say, in

618
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Transit has a hard enough time policing anglers

619
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: that trespass on the railroad tracks to catch stripers at

620
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: the bridges on land. Um. And I mean there's even

621
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: a real guy sitting in a little railroad house there,

622
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: and that's a problem. So don't be shocked people if

623
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: some folks tie off to your turbines. Just a heads up. Anyway,

624
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: the turbines off Rhode Island are already a fishing hotspot.

625
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Per the story, I don't know that much about them,

626
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: that's just from the story. And then it says and

627
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I find this caveat interesting. Um, jes how well turbines

628
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: attract fish is still under much study. It says that

629
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Noah actually conducted a study on this and found that

630
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: black sea bass, which are a really important species here

631
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: commercially and recreationally, are sensitive to the sound created by

632
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: wind turbines, so they don't like them. Um. In fact,

633
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: many anglers, both on the commercial and recreational side, have

634
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: raised a concern that the electromagnetic field that that these

635
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: turbines and the whole field of them will create will

636
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: actually scare fish away. Um. And the developers say that

637
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: because the cables will be they're gonna be buried at

638
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: least six ft below the ocean floor, this won't be

639
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: a problem. So here's what I say, man, Like, I'm

640
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: all for other sources of energy, but I god, I

641
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: hate looking at those things that I'm sure I've been

642
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: to so many places where it's just miles of them

643
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: in every direction. So at least they're they're not an

644
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: eesre offshore like at least they're their way out there,

645
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: so they're not you know. Um. But that said, I'm excited,

646
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't give a damn about black

647
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: sea bass really, but I mean, there's gonna be Mahi

648
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: and Kobea and to me, it creates sort of one

649
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: of those who knows kinds of areas where where all

650
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: kinds of odd ball shit will show up, you know,

651
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: like we live. We live in that area where sort

652
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: of the southern species and fisheries kind of cross over

653
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: here in the summer, like kingfish king Max as an example,

654
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: they're called off Jersey all summer long. But it's pretty random,

655
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: like you just catch one out there in the great

656
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: wide open while you're targeting something else. Right now, you

657
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: put a bunch of of of turbines out there, you're

658
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: providing exactly the kind of structure that they cling to

659
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: down south where there's oil rigs. So I, I mean,

660
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: I find it from a fishing standpoint very exciting. We've

661
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: never had anything like this here and rig fishing in

662
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: the Gulf has always been one of my favorite things.

663
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a few years out before this

664
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: is established, I think, and we can go fish them.

665
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, it's something different. I don't know.

666
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know where you are on the wind farms,

667
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: Probably a lot I could say about wind Yeah, I

668
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: do have a lot of I can say about wind farms.

669
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed. Let me, let me start there, and

670
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm in favor of finding alternative sources of

671
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: energy that that we can make work and that are

672
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: viable and actually productive. I think though that technology has potential,

673
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: it also has potential drawbacks. What I'm what I you

674
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: you teat up the oil rig thing, which is exactly

675
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: that's where I went to, right, because those are such

676
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: important spots for for for anglers in the Gulf, and

677
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: you just go target so many fish every yeah, and

678
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: then so much stuff, and there's there's sort of like

679
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to be crass or cynical,

680
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: but there's already sort of this like cultural cage match

681
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: between petroleum and UH and alternative energies. And I feel

682
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: like we can just extend this out into fishing and

683
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: be like, all right, who's got the best fish habitat

684
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: oil rigs and wind farms and like, you know, find

685
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: another way for us to fight over what kind of

686
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: energy sources we put up. Not that that's a good thing,

687
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: but I am curious to see how it goes. Yeah,

688
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: I would say riggs are gonna win because looking at

689
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: sounds like this offshore turbines, you know, it's not like

690
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: a straight telephone pole going into the ocean. There is

691
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: a base and and legs, but there's just not as

692
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: much metal and hidy holes and things down there as

693
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: an oil ring. Um. But I I don't know, man,

694
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: I think over time it would actually have the potential

695
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: to create, you know, consistent fisheries here that are not

696
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: consistent Cheep's head, King Max, stuff like that. That kind

697
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: of pitter patter around here beaunifar between. But man, you

698
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: put some some metal out there like that, I'm I'm excited.

699
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. I think. I think if there

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: are any offshore wind farm developers listening to the show,

701
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: fat chance. But if you are, here's your opportunity to

702
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: get a large chunk of people on board with you.

703
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: If you want to get local support. Tell them you're

704
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna redesign the basis of those things to have more

705
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: structure and hidy holes and intentionally create fish gathering habitat,

706
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: and I bet you get a whole lot more fishermen

707
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: on board. Put a bent logo on every single blade.

708
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: What does that say? It's moving really fast? I can't

709
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: see it. Uh. Look, I think if that happens, it

710
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: will create a potentially great fishery for a very localized

711
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: group of folks. And as we do sometimes we focus

712
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: on very localized stories and this, this next one I've

713
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: got is one of those super localized stories. But I

714
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: think it's pretty interesting. Um. The final story of the

715
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: day comes to us from the local Minneapolis ABC affiliate

716
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: with the headline Lake Minnetonka anglers rush to save thousands

717
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: of game fish and like, if you go check this out,

718
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: it's a totally standard local evening news segment. Like it's

719
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: just it's a lot of really bad b roll of

720
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: like scenery and dead fish and this frozen creek cut

721
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: together with just one interview of an older gentleman who's

722
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: hanging out around the creek. I think after the story

723
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: it already kind of ended. And I'm not I'm actually

724
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: not ragging. I want to be clear, I'm not ragging

725
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: on local news reporters, because those folks get like five

726
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: buck one camera in twenty minutes to go and shoot

727
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: and edit a ten minute piece and it sucks for them.

728
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just trying to set the scene here.

729
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: But here's this is the crux of the story. Minni haaha,

730
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Creek runs through Minneapolis and and it's it's the centerpiece

731
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: for a series of urban parks around the city. The

732
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: creek connects Lake Minnetonka, which is the like the aquatic

733
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: playground of the Twin Cities, to to the Mississippi River.

734
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: A few days ago, residents and anglers around Minniehaha Creek

735
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: started noticing these huge numbers of fish congregating in the

736
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: pool just below Gray's Bay Dam, and a significant proportion

737
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: of those fish were dead or dying. Gray's Bay damn

738
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: separates Lake Minnetonka from Minnehaha Creek, and it was built

739
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: in nine to control seasonal flooding. From May through October,

740
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: the Watershed District opens the head gates and monitors the

741
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: flow to roughly mimic natural seasonal patterns while holding back

742
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: any catastrophic floodwaters. But from December through April, those gates

743
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: get completely shut. And when that happens, the creek loses

744
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: most of its influence and it doesn't run dry, but

745
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: it loses most of that flow out of the out

746
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: of the lake it and it ices over and then

747
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: oxygen levels start to drop, and when that happens, all

748
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: the fish that are they're hanging out in that creek,

749
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: start looking for a more suitable habitat, but they're kind

750
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: of screwed. Downstream passage gets blocked by minni haha falls,

751
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: and then if they try and go upstream back in

752
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: the lake, they run in the dam. So the result

753
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: is exactly what you see captured in this local news story.

754
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: It's it's it's this big creek, like a big pool

755
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: right at the head of the creek, and it's just

756
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: full of fish and they're all slowly running out of oxygen.

757
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: They got nowhere to go. Not surprisingly, a group of locals,

758
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: many of whom seem to be anklers, decided they were

759
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: going to step in and try and save the fish,

760
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: or or at least the specific fish that they hope

761
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: they could catch in the future. Right. They're they're definitely

762
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: selectively being like, oh, there's a nice bath. There's exactly

763
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: and all these all these folks have been like showing

764
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: up there and gearing up with waiters and nets and

765
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: like someone just have treble hooks and snagging lines and

766
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: they're just gathering fish, piling them into wheelbarrows and then

767
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: ferrying them over the dam and and drilling holes in

768
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: the lake and dropping the fish through the holes in

769
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: the ice back into the lake. Okay, so Ken Martinson,

770
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: the angler who was interviewed for the local news story,

771
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: estimated that they had saved about two thousand fish, specifically

772
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: looking at bass, northerns, and big muskies. The Minnesota Department

773
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: of Natural Resources told the local news station that the

774
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: annual fish skills are quote a natural process every year,

775
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: and that some fish will die as oxygen levels go

776
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: down with the ice cover. The DNR added that winter

777
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: fish rescues are not generally done as nature takes its course.

778
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: So I am all for allowing nature to take its course,

779
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: and sometimes that does mean winter kill, whether we're talking

780
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: about terrestrial or wildlife. Animals die in winner. That happens,

781
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: and and we can't and we shouldn't try and save

782
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: them all. But calling this particular situation a natural process

783
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: just it doesn't. It doesn't work for me because it's

784
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: it's a direct result of closing the damn and that's

785
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: not natural, right, Like, I want to be clear, I'm

786
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: not saying Minnesota dn R is wrong. It's there, it's

787
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: their logic, it's it's the justification that they used. There.

788
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: The new natural the natural as we've made it kind

789
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: of I'm if so if they were if they had said,

790
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: if they had just said, you know, something like that

791
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: watershed has healthy game fish numbers and the winter killing

792
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: minnie haha, creek doesn't pose enough of a threat to

793
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: the overall populations to justify the resources it would take

794
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: for a fish rescue. I would be totally fine with that.

795
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: I'd be like, cool, that's a bummer, but I get

796
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: it so so like I wish that. I get that

797
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: that may have not sounded as good in a in

798
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: a press release statement, but I feel like that's the

799
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: more honest answer, and I wish that that's what they'd

800
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: gone with. And despite all that, if I were one

801
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: of those local anglers and I walked up on all that,

802
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'd be wadering up and grabbing my

803
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: nep net and being like, oh, there's there's a good one.

804
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting that. I'd do the same thing that these

805
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: folks are doing. I think I would, like even if

806
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: even if I knew that the outcome didn't really matter

807
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of the health of fisher, Like,

808
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: even if I knew that saving that one muskie was

809
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: completely symbolic. Because the chances of me ever catching that

810
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: musky in the future are zero, I think I'd still

811
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: do it. I do it. I mean, yeah, I it'd

812
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: be hard to see big muskies and northerns just just

813
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: flopping there but just dying sadly. If you and I

814
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: walked up on this and it was like a bunch

815
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: of suckers or something, I I probably wouldn't And that's

816
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of my point, right that it's totally

817
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: a symbolic act that makes those those folks feel good.

818
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not dogging on either the d n R

819
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: or those people because I get where both of them

820
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: are coming from. I wish the DNR being a little

821
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: more honest about it. But I also think if I

822
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: were one of those anglers, even if I knew it

823
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: was a pointless thing to do, I'd probably be down

824
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: there scooping with them. And one one final point I

825
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: have to add here there there's a literary angle for

826
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: me in their story. Mini Haaha Creek is named for

827
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: a fictional character in the epic Longfellow poem Song of Hiawatha.

828
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: In that poem, the protagonist's great love Minnie haha, meets

829
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: an untimely and tragic but unavoidable end when she dies

830
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: in the midst of a severe winter. Oh man. So

831
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you had a poetic flare,

832
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: you might say that the game fish in that creek,

833
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: that that they get trapped. Every winner just kind of

834
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: adhering to a fate inherent in the name of the

835
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: creek where they are, you know. Ah, there's also a

836
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: musical tie. And didn't didn't Prince say why don't you

837
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: purify yourselves in the waters of Lake Minnetonka? Was that?

838
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: Or was that Chappellee Chapelle? Every time some I appreciate

839
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: every time somebody says lake Minnetonka, I have to say

840
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: to myself, why don't you purify yourself in the waters

841
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: of Lake Minnetonka? So thank you. Yeah. So that that's

842
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: That's where I'm ending on. That one was with was

843
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: was longfellow? Well Phil can take over now, Phil, I'm

844
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm quickly trying to remember what we talked about Minni

845
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: ha ha, scooping muskies and piking the wheelbarrows? What did

846
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I talk about today? Lying, dirty, lying teenagers who who

847
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: scared scared their parents to death. It's a Smorg's board

848
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: of opportunities of fish news here for you. Phil picked

849
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: the morsel that seems most delectable. Joseph Millie, you're the

850
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: winner this week. And guys, before you find all my

851
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: fishing gear on the ice and unraveled this for yourselves,

852
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. A few weeks ago,

853
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I made this joke about how I couldn't find a

854
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: PS five in stores, and you guys very graciously wish

855
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: that I found my PS five for Christmas, and I

856
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: gotta come clean. I've had a PS five since November.

857
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: In fact, I play so many video games that Sony

858
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: invited me to a private preorder waiting room to get

859
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: it directly from them. So there you have it. I'm

860
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: a pasty indoor kid. And if I ever turn in

861
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: this podcast late, it was probably because I spent the

862
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: entire day playing demon souls like a middle schooler during

863
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: summer vacation. And now this is a river Horse coming

864
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: to you from the Deep South with some Sage Lee wisdom.

865
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Today we're gonna take a little trip to the country club.

866
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: What's that you ask, Verhorse, Are you a member of

867
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: a country club? Why? Yes, The whole earth is our

868
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: country club. But as far as this particular country club

869
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: goes ah nah. But there's golf there. Do I play golf?

870
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. If I did, my driver

871
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: would be in eight weight and my golf ball at

872
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: dear hair frog. But you know what is there that

873
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: I do find quite interesting? A bunch of bass ponds

874
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: along the course. So let's go check it out. Come

875
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: along the country club with an initial membership vie a

876
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: fifty thousand bucks and another grand a month for dues.

877
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Sits along a few ponds that, based on satellite images,

878
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: are dark, greasy, weedy and sublime. I try to imagine

879
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: paying fifty grand for something, but that doesn't really register

880
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: even my flat skiff. I sold a guitar to get it.

881
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: One of the secrets of fancy country clubs is that

882
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: the greens are shut down for maintenance one day a week. Here.

883
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: That day is Monday. That's why I like to stop

884
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: on by. According to the groundskeeper, the bass are from

885
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: a strain first stocked in the nineteen forties. They are

886
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: absolute slabs. He tells me. Oh that's interesting, I replied

887
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: from the truck, feigning boredom. The first couple of trips

888
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: I went there. The place was empty. As with any

889
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: set of gates with a guard, it's best to act

890
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: like you belong there. I rolled through it a respectful

891
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: but confidence twenty miles and hold a pair of fingers

892
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: out the door. Hey, hey, so good to see you,

893
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: and keep right on rolling to the back park a lot.

894
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: I've never really understood the concept of golf, although I've

895
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: always known a life without obsession is worthless, so I

896
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: can relate on some level. Still, do they realize how

897
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: many stellar fly rods you could buy instead of a

898
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: set of clubs, an eight weight versus a five iron?

899
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Behold the shooting head with the

900
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: clouser or frog attached and watch this ninety ft draft.

901
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me this time, when I show up to

902
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: fish golf as one, there's a tournament going on from

903
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: far away, it looks like the crowd is congregated against

904
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: the distance side of the course, leaving the seedy backwater

905
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: ponds open. Well, it's where I want to fish anyway,

906
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: Quickly line up the fly rod and go for it.

907
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: There's something about casting a fly road we all unconsciously

908
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: know a simple rhythm of it puts the rest of

909
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: the world in the rear view mirror. It doesn't even

910
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: seem real to me. I'm already lost, gliding a stout

911
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: frog the size of a hard bowed egg, deep into

912
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: the recesses of the cove when I realized that the

913
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: petting green above me is filled with hundreds of golf fans.

914
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Some of them are looking down at me. Let I

915
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: see telephoto lenses, film cameras, polo shirts with the colors up,

916
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: and even the guy holding the flag. And then I

917
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: see the wicked take of a seven pounder crushing the frog,

918
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: and I strips it hard while the throngs of a

919
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: crowd stopped the golf tournament to cock. The bass finally

920
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: ms alongside the manicured grass bank of the putting green,

921
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: where we can all get a good look at him broadside,

922
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: just for good measure. He tells gravity to kiss his

923
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: ass and tail walks with gills blared and heaving the

924
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: last few feet of water. I can't breathe for a second.

925
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. Thousands of the fans scream and a plod,

926
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: and some dork ask gives a long cat co whistle.

927
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: Then I see golf carts coming my way, A lot

928
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: of them. Oh lordy, this is about to get exciting.

929
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: You obviously aren't remember here. Do you know who is

930
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that up there? Bellows the course official after he removes

931
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: the unlit cigar from his mouth, going for levity, as say,

932
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: whoever it is, just saw me stick a sweet bass.

933
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: The country club cop proves to be a tough audience

934
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: in yells that's bleep in certain name of famous veteran

935
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: pro golfer. Here he's trying to qualify for the U

936
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: S Open. Get in the cart now. Thus begins the

937
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: golf cart slow and bizarre raety of shame. I slide

938
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: into the seat next to him, or what's left of it.

939
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: We crawled past the onlookers with their frowns, smirks and

940
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: disgusted glares. I miss the days when you could moon

941
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: people and not get in trouble. These guys could have

942
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: used a good rowdy pressed ham the old hogback growler.

943
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: I know I'm pushing the limits pretty hard already, and

944
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm still not sure if there'll be a trespassing ticket.

945
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: So I behave and break down the rod. One two three,

946
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: I count five other golf carts following at the parking lot,

947
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: I refrain from many more jokes as I show them

948
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: the tail lights of the truck and reach for a

949
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: beer from the cooler. I recently found yet another country

950
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: club down the road from our former president lives. The

951
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: membership is more than a hundred thousand bucks a year.

952
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: Sweet Jesus, what do they have in there? Tarban Oh,

953
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I'll let you know next Monday. And that's our sagely

954
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: wisdom for today. And what have we learned? Let the

955
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: world be your country club? Now get out there and

956
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: stick em. Well, that was my favorite stagey wisdom yet

957
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: river Horse, mind too? You nailed it, Man, mind too, Man,

958
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you absolutely nailed it. But I mean truth is I

959
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: am and river Horse knows this. I'm a sucker for

960
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: anything that pokes fun of golf or golf culture. I

961
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: actually worked for for a short time as a server

962
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: at a country club for a few months and uh

963
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: and it was so many things, security guard, country club.

964
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of shitty jobs, man, and uh

965
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: and but that one was like my own personal hell, right,

966
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: and I have so many like we don't have time

967
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: sometimes in another context, I will maybe write a book

968
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: about it. But there weren't even any bass ponds on

969
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: the course that I could go sneak away and fish

970
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: and get fired. It's well, they see. This actually makes

971
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: me realize how jealous I am of river Horse and

972
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: guys like him in general. And I'll tell you why.

973
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Never in my life have I

974
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: fished somewhere I wasn't supposed to be right, But on

975
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: those rare rare, very very rare occasional super rare um

976
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly relaxed while I was doing it, you

977
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The river Horse breaker. Yeah, not now.

978
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: But then you have dudes like river Horse that not

979
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: only do they pull it off, but they're just totally

980
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: chill about it and they're not sweating the consequences. And

981
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: I admire I admire that confidence. I admire that attitude

982
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: of like it's all good and so what if we

983
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: get caught, man, nothing bad is gonna happen. Where I'm like,

984
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: oh fine, let's we'll just get in and make a

985
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: couple of casts and get the hell out of here. Okay,

986
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: just get in real quick, and Castle will go because

987
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to go to jail. Okay, he'd

988
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: river Horse would tell me like I like you let

989
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: the man bring you down. It's probably say to me, no, no, no,

990
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: river Horse would would never like judge like that. I

991
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: don't I think I can confidently say. I think his

992
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: response will be something like, that's your journey Homebray, you

993
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: find your own whips sticking it to the man. Maybe

994
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: he'll call in and tell me I was wrong. But

995
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: but that's how I think you would respond, And I

996
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: hope not alright. So so moving on, speaking of the man,

997
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna skip end of line this week

998
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: for once, not forever. It's coming back soon, but just

999
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: this week. And uh. Instead, we're gonna slot in a

1000
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: tackle hacks because we've got a really good one from

1001
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: the Big bass Man himself, also known as our buddy Oliver.

1002
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: And I this is a This is a great tip

1003
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: for for people like river Horse who sneak into golf courseponds,

1004
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: because you gotta maximize your efficiency before the security gets you.

1005
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Uh and and if you're only gonna get intent casts,

1006
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: this tip is gonna help you make them count. I'm

1007
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: getting hacks coming from inside the city, Hi the flood

1008
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: joining us today on tackle hacks, very good friend of

1009
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: the program. Bass fishermen among all other fisheries extraordinaire. Oliver

1010
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: and I have big bass streams. What's going on? Man? Boys,

1011
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here, I think, uh, I think it's

1012
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: fair to say that that we can all learn something

1013
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: from you and your skills. You certainly get around and

1014
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: fish for all kinds of different species, even though you

1015
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: are most associated with bass. So I'm very curious because

1016
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: of your repertoire and and all the different things you

1017
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: fish for, what you got for us for a tackle

1018
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: hack today? What is the the simple trick that is

1019
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: stuck with you that you lean on often that can

1020
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: help us all perhaps achieve our own big bass dreams? Well? Uh,

1021
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: common flure style amongst multiple species is a jighead and

1022
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: a soft plastic. I've heard of this he somewhere. That's

1023
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: the thing. It kind of makes me cringe when I

1024
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: look at guys that post these keeping piles of you

1025
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: soft plastics. Like Man, I had an incredible day. I've

1026
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: got a hundred dollars worth those soft baits that I

1027
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: just burned through. When I grew up, Man, I was

1028
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: really poor, so I would literally take every soft plastic

1029
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: bait I was catching fish on that would rip off

1030
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: my Texas rig worms, off my Carolina rigs, off my

1031
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: little dater head and grub setups. And I would go

1032
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: home and I'd take a lighter and I would melt

1033
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: them all back together so I could keep using them

1034
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: and keep catching fish. And that still can be a thing.

1035
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: But one one tackle hack that I figure it out,

1036
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: especially when you're working with the jighead and a soft bait,

1037
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: is to secure that plastic body with half a drop

1038
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: of superglue. So all you wanna do is take your jighead,

1039
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: thread the head of your plastic up to the shank,

1040
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: and then apply that glue to that shank here right

1041
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: on that curve, and push that bait into place. And

1042
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: one single swoop, clean motion, and that little dab of

1043
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: superglue is gonna achieve a couple of things. It's gonna

1044
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: lock that plastic body onto that jighead, so when you're

1045
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: getting short strike, your bait's not getting its pants pulled

1046
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: down and now deemed inoperable. That's its most important component

1047
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: in feature for me, as it keeps you actually fishing

1048
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: all of the time, all right. And then of course

1049
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: the cheap side of me, I mean, the frugal side

1050
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: of me really likes the fact that I can catch

1051
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, ten fish on a swim bait body like this,

1052
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: if you know, lady luck is on my side instead

1053
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: of one fish per bait. So I'm a huge fan

1054
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: of superglue in general. I use it for way too

1055
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: many things, you know what i mean, even in fly tying,

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes I'm just lazy and like just put it,

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Speaker 1: you know, drop superglue on there. But what I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about because I've heard about putting superglue on the collar

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Speaker 1: of say a jighead, sort of slathering on the jam

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Speaker 1: and it on. But you're talking about this one drip

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Speaker 1: down the the sort of the slick shank of the hook, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious does it hold it in place securely

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Speaker 1: enough to do all those things but also make it

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Speaker 1: so you don't destroy your bait if you have to say,

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Speaker 1: change colors. Oh see, at that point, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: cut the jighead off, okay and grab another bait because

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Speaker 1: it just it's not worth it. Got you, okay, I understand, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you just gonna change out the whole jig head

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Speaker 1: and sort of have all your colors lined up, but

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Speaker 1: then those are all secure and they stay on there. Yeah. Typically,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can figure out whatever color combo or

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Speaker 1: jakehead weight combo is working in a particular scenario, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully you'll have a narrowed narrowed down by then and

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Speaker 1: you're not having to continually switch. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: and particularly people spend a lot of money on hand pores.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the handboard stuff is such a big deal

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Speaker 1: now and I use a lot of it, but I

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Speaker 1: just I mean it is softer, generally speaking than a

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Speaker 1: lot of the molded stuff. So I have that problem

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Speaker 1: with hand poors a lot, and I use a lot

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Speaker 1: of handpoard swim baits like for dolphin and stripers out here.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, glue on the shank. So that's

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Speaker 1: it for this week, and I'd say we've completely outfitted

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