WEBVTT - What is Project 2025? 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.680 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.480 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.880 Welcome home, y'all. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.360 This is episode thirteen of Native Lamppod, where we give you. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.280 Our breakdown of all things politics and culture. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.040 You are your hosts, Angela Ride, Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillham. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.200 What's good, everybody? 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:26.000 Welcome home? 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:31.640 Not fingerwaves okay? And trying to clown me because I 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.600 don't have my hair done today when we were on 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.200 our car. I just washed that out the shower. He's 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.159 trying to say, I got fingerwave. You know, I look 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:41.159 crazy like you. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.919 Said I hadn't done. You said you hadn't done your hair, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.080 and I was like, oh, I thought you was just 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.800 trying to Andrew's fingerwaves. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.159 It's like a whole dance. And that's the moment he 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.440 did a finger Oh I thought it was a fingerwave. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.440 Body right. Anyway, here's the thing, Andrew and Tip. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.360 I just wanted to confess the reason why I was 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.560 late for our call this morning is because I was 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.760 combing out my hair in the shower for forty minutes. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.760 So I really apologized. It was sad, but it's center 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.360 the drive. I say, wear it big. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.319 It looks cute, big, wear it Big. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.080 I like ATIV And speaking of big, we need y'all 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.160 away in big and make sure that you rate and 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.520 review our show. We need to see those reviews. We're 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.920 starting to post those comments. 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Crystal Mason recently ended her 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.400 year's long battle for trying to vote in twenty sixteen. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.320 She got an Eastern miracle after her five year prison 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.720 sentence for casting a ballot in Texas's twenty sixteen election 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.359 was overturned by the Court of Appeals. So massive voter 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.000 fraud is finally confirmed. Right, not so much y'all have 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.720 been asking, So we are finally answering. On this week's 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.040 deep dive, we dig into Project twenty twenty five. It 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.760 is nothing more than proof that one side is gearing 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.960 up for political war and another is treating this election 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.840 like it's just one of them days. Maybe that's what 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.680 Meet Mills meant when he said the odds against you, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.760 and they double stacked. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.040 Stay woke, you too, Meet you too. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.280 After the deep dive, stick around for politics are everywhere. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.200 Washington State has passed a new Stripper's Bill of rights, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.480 and sadly, tiff it does not include our much needed 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:55.200 work lessons. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.520 Oh well, let's go rude. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:08.760 Yeah, have we ever ever vacated the entire board of 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.200 a university before? 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:12.560 Have we ever done that? 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:17.240 But an HBCU that we owe two billion dollars too? 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.200 Oh yeah, we're gonna take We're gonna take their board. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.600 You know, we're gonna We're gonna hold. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.799 Them hostage, and we're gonna say you need to shut up. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.200 About your two billion dollars. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.080 You better sit down and shut up and accept. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.040 The crumbs we send you. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.640 The optics of this are horrendous. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.840 You're going off the cliff. Don't do it. Don't do 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.200 it to yourself, and then wonder. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:47.000 Why the press is attacking you and saying. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.400 Things and saying things. And boy, do we ask something 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.480 to say on this. So as you can see here, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.840 last week, the Tennessee State House voted sixty six to 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.960 twenty five in favor of dis miss the entire board 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.520 of Tennessee State University. As you might guess, the legislature 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.480 holds a large Republican majority who claim they are concerned 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.200 about governance and financial mismanagement. Boy, we heard of that before. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.120 And I want to tell y'all, I think the real 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.560 issue is that in September, the Biden administration sent a 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:26.680 letter from Secretaries Corodona and Vilsack of Education and Agriculture, respectively, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:38.120 to several states that have land grant institutions, including Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:43.560 North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.200 And do you know of all of the recipients of 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.000 those letters, the one with the largest debt to a 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.400 school to a land grant institution was Tennessee with two 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.039 point one billion dollars, as referenced in bo Mitchell sound 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.159 just there. I want to play justin Pearson sound a 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.280 legislator also from Tennessee, who you all know has been 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.400 making a lot of waves. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:06.960 And then I want to hear y'all weigh in. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.400 This is wrong and immoral. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:14.599 This perpetuates the racism of previous generations into legislation today. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:19.080 The University of Tennessee, a predominantly white institution, and the 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:24.040 state's other land grant university, did in fact get its 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.440 full state funding each year. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.000 Some years the University. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.680 Of Tennessee even got more than it's required funding levels. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.560 The Tennessee State University was denied for those resources, and 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.640 because they were denied the resources, there weren't problems that occurred. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:43.960 But instead of us. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.200 Rectifying the problems that we created through racist policies by 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:52.600 underfunding Tennessee State University, we're now advocating to. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.279 Vacate their board man. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.599 Okay, so weigh in here, y'all is this is a 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.920 spicy one, and I think it's an extension of what 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.480 they've been calling DEI attacks, affirmative action attacks. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.000 All of that. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.040 So I want to hear from you, Andrew. You went 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.120 to a land grant institution called Florida A and M University. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.560 I'd love to hear from you first. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.560 You know. Well, so let me just say justin was 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.080 going down The representative was going down the lane of 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:23.520 describing the difference between the two land Grand institutions that 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.760 exists in the state of Tennessee. So what is it 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:32.760 UT Knoxville University of Tennessee. Knoxville is the other federally 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.240 granted land gran I think they're in eighteen hundred and 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.839 early eighteen hundred lang Grand institutions. So is Florida A 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.440 and M University. What that means is the Department of 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.920 Agriculture of the United States of America allocates or a 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.599 set of federal dollars that make their way to those institutions, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.839 and then the state has to meet its side of 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.480 the bargain, which is to fund both of their how 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.280 do you say land grand institution at their required levels. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.760 What the representative was saying was UT Knoxville got its 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.000 money every single year, and in some years in excess 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.840 of what they were required to have been allocated by 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.440 the legislature, and the case, however, of Tennessee State University, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.800 the other established languorine institution, many of the years were 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.960 never funded at the level that was required. They just 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:31.800 all wholesale misfunding Tennessee State University. And so for those 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.880 who misunderstand whether this is reparations or if this is 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:41.080 ill gotten gains that just never got gotten, understand that 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:45.920 the state of Tennessee failed to meet their legal obligation 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.760 to fund the black school at the same level that 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.559 it was required to fund, but it funded the white 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.160 school at the required level in many years above the 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.280 required level. To my opinion, Tennessee State. First of all, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.400 Glinda Glover is an incredible leader. She's the president of TSU. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.480 She is also, i think she's still simultaneously the president 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:14.120 the international president of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. A 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.560 woman who was a supporter of my campaign for governor, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.800 a woman who I would consider a friend, a woman 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.679 who when she lived as a young person in Washington, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.640 d C. Grew up under the tutelage of Mary and Barry. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.960 When she was a student up in Washington, d C, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:35.760 intern FORARS campaign, So she understands hard knocks fighting right well, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.840 it has not yet appeared to me whether TSU understands 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.400 the kind of fight the students, the alumni, the supporters, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.760 the national community ought to be rising up right now 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.920 in defense of TSU because their failure to meet their 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:56.920 obligation there to suspend summarily the entire board without any justification. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.640 The audit that was done there angela correct me if 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:05.199 I'm wrong, didn't reveal any legal issues malfeasance. They were 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:12.160 technical auditing practices and some recommendations for improvement the legislature. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.640 There is not hiding who they are, how they feel. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.000 They're doing it out loud and on purpose. Within minutes 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.079 of the legislation passing y'all to dismantle that board, within minutes, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.880 the governor had already renamed all new eight members of 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.160 the board. This was no debate, There was no deliberative 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.120 process being had by legislators. Those folks went in there 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.680 and they gang banged their way using the guise of 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.760 the law to dismiss a board who was demanding the 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.000 two billion dollars they would do. And they told them 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.440 to shut up. They wouldn't shut up. They were told 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.640 them to sit down somewhere. They wouldn't sit down somewhere 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.280 and what happened. The state just decided we'll get rid 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.200 of the troublemakers and replace them with folks who are 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.920 going to be obedient and subservient. You know. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.160 To this point, tif I wanted to raise Andrew said 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.280 he was talking about the regularly available data in the 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.760 letter to the Governor of Tennessee, Bill Ye. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.439 They say using. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.040 Readily available data from the National Center for Education Statistics, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.439 basically saying like, we ain't spend no extra taxpayer money 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.640 on this to figure out that there was this funding 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.920 gap between your eighteen ninety land Grand Institution and your 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.200 eighteen sixty two Land Gran Institution. But there is a 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.679 two billion, one hundred and forty seven million, seven hundred 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.680 and eighty four thousand, seven hundred and four dollars gap 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.680 in funding. Yeah, over thirty years. That's just over the 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.000 last thirty years, by the way. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.120 Yeah, I just want to take him in and talk 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.000 about HBCUs and the magic that they possessed, not only 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.920 for those who attended. And this is no dis to 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.559 people who went to a PWI, but it is exhausting 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.760 sometimes when people are like, well, I went to a PWI, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.800 but there were so many Black people was like MACEBCU. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:54.680 No, it wasn't. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.320 When we saw Black panther and people talked about Wakanda. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.439 I say this all the time we lived in Wakanda. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:06.000 We had that experience and they are magical places which 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.120 means so much to us as a people, but not 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.439 just to us as a people, to the country. HBCUs 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.679 comprised three percent of all universities and colleges, but enroll 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.520 ten percent of all black students and account for eighty 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:25.359 percent of black judges, twenty five percent of black science professionals, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.280 seventy percent of dentists and physicians, and forty percent Angelo 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:34.600 will appreciate this, forty percent of members of Congress, and twenty. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.359 Percent of all black college graduates. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:40.600 And the economic impact of all of this is over 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.640 fifteen billion dollars to the US economy. HBCUs are the 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:50.040 primary drivers lifting Black people out of poverty into the 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.679 middle class. According to some reporting by The Washington Post, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.240 the funding gap per student went from four hundred dollars 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.959 per student to foum jobs per student at HBCU sixteen 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.760 hundred dollars per student at a PWI, and that was 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.800 just between twenty three and twenty fifteen, those numbers have 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:10.560 since expanded. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.440 To Angela's point that she was given this was. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.640 A policy that was enacted by the Republican controlled state legislature, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.800 which Angela pointed out signed into law by the Republican governor. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:25.400 These are all elected positions. Tennessee has a high population 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.760 of black folks. The down ballot races matter. HBCUs matter. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.280 The letter that Angela referenced, it wasn't just the two 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.680 point one billion oh to Tennessee State, it was the 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.400 twelve billion OD to all those HBCUs housed in the 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:45.960 states that Angela ticked off. Please, we cannot let HBCUs 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.119 die become defunded. Even if you didn't attend an HBCU, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.320 it's all of our problems. But if you did attend 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.480 an HBCU, please make sure you're a booster. You're giving back, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.960 you're contributing something in some way because they are so 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.000 important to us as a community but also us as 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.920 a country. And Andrew, you can testify. You're on the 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.320 board of trustees at FAM. You HBCUs are strapped, and 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.079 there are always students who need money. They'll be students 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.440 who are two thousand dollars short of graduating or ten 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.439 thousand dollars short of graduating. So then the faculty, because 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.080 they love you, run around and try to find money 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.280 anywhere to get these students to graduate. And they're like 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.720 literally friendship groups who are like, yeah, I just need 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.040 two thousand dollars. I have a student in my class 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.520 or my friend's son is studying at at HBCU and 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.560 needs money. The students themselves need so much money, and 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.400 the funding often comes from outside sources. So I implore 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.280 people pay attention to this because I don't think it'd 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.040 be the last school we see you face something like this. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:43.880 Thank you, Tiff Angela. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.120 Can I also say, isn't there a isn't there a 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.000 rally or tech? 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.679 There was a rally that took place on Monday, absolutely, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.360 and I don't think that will be the last of 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.000 these actions. To Tip's point, this is only one of 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.520 the states that owes millions or billions of dollars to 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.560 their AI eighteen ninety Langer institution. And with that, everyone, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.560 we're gonna take a break and be right back. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.800 First of all, I like to thank everybody for coming. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.440 Spent a long journey started in two thousand and sixteen 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.440 for fulling out a provisional ballet that never counted. Two 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.560 thousand and seventeen, I was convicted for I was charged 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.040 with illegally voting, and in two thousand eighteen, I was 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:40.400 convicted to five years. I've been out now for six years, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.880 over six years on the up pill bun fighting to 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.920 stay free, and yesterday I finally got that news that 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.880 I was acquitted from all charges. Spent a long time coming. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.240 I'm so grateful. I'm so humbly grateful, and I knew 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.440 victory would be there I come, and I'm just so 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.280 glad that the judges did the right thing. And again 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.880 I just asked you keep me in your prayers and 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:08.160 keep my family uplifted, because again I'm just again just overwhelmed, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:14.320 trying to stay trying not to cry. And I'm yeah, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:15.720 thank you, thank you. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.600 That was Crystal Mason at a press conference last week, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.160 right after she found out that she won her appeal. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.160 She'd been out on appeal bond and Crystal was charged 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:30.120 in twenty seventeen for voter fraud after she voted while 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.920 still on supervised release from prison. She says she had 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.720 no idea that she was not allowed to vote and 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.600 only did so because of the encouragement of her friends 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.280 and family. She casted a provisional ballot, which was never 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.560 actually counted, and still in twenty eighteen, she was convicted 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.040 and sentenced to five years in prison for election fraud. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.080 She's been outfighting the case ever since. It cost her 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.800 two jobs and an untold amount of emotional and financial stress. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 She had the PRIs I had the privilege of moderating 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.560 a panel that Crystal set on last year with the 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.960 United Justice Coalition and learned about her story, her courage, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.280 and was so impressed with her and her bravery. I'm 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.360 so happy that she can move on with her life 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.320 and just want to flag for the audience that Texas 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.840 tried to make an example out of Crystal. Republicans you'll 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.920 hear often talk about how big of an issue voter 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.200 fraud is, and they would know because they're the ones 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.880 who competed or actually engaging at rit large. But voter 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.920 fraud is a problem point zero zero zero three percent 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.400 of the time according to the Brennan Center for Justice. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.800 So with that, I don't know if y'all want to 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.360 weigh in, but I just think it's an example of 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.680 injustice in this country being served, and this is one 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.680 time where she was able to slip out of its grasp. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.240 Well, Angela, I'm glad that you emphasized the point that 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.840 she cast a provisional ballot. And for you all who 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:03.160 have never cast a provisional ballot before, those are ballots 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.520 that if there is any question about your legal ability 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.960 to either vote, or if you are in the wrong precinct, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.600 or if you're given the correct ballot or not, those 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.520 ballots are not counted at the same time that all 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.120 other legitimately cast ballots are counted. They are set aside 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.520 to be later cured by a panel of people who 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.560 look through and figure out whether or not this is 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.240 right or it isn't. If if there was an issue, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.280 it would have been caught there right. So it already 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.600 tells us the ballot never got counted, she voted provisionally, 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.639 and the fact that she then gets prosecuted. Your point 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.800 around this was a shot over the bow. This is 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.439 a message to everybody else who might even attempt this, 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.680 that we can put you in legal jeopardy, costs you 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.199 your reputation, your livelihood, and so much else, all because 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.800 we don't want to see you at the polls, you 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.159 or anybody like you. And I'm just glad that in 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:07.000 this case, you know, justice was had properly. But I'm 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.440 fearful for the next case, and the next case, and 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.280 the next case and the case after that, because everyone's 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.520 not gonna be able to walk away with this same outcome. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.000 And I just think that federally, if we have the 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.000 right to vote, this guaranteed federally, there should be no 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.240 state able to trump the right of your federal right 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.000 to participate. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.880 Unintended, no states should trump the right of your right 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:36.040 to vote. I you know, I will say about this, Andrew, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.920 this is something that hits close to home for you. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.040 Republican Governor Ron DeSantis. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:46.320 Started arresting people the last election cycle, which was devastating 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.840 to see. But I think the scariest part of this, 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.879 which which it feels like we're, you know, having a 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.280 reach back in history this entire episode is the pendulum 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.919 is swinging and so we see these types of draconian 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.560 laws that our own we aimed at fear and suppression, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.879 literal suppression of your vote. So to all the people 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.960 out there who say, if I was alive during the 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.000 Civil rights movement, I would fill in the blank. Whatever 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.879 you're doing right now is what you would have been 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.840 doing during the Civil rights movement. We are under constant attack, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.879 not only our liberty but our livelihood, and it is 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.520 time for everybody to do a little, so not just 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.119 a few people are left to do a lot right now. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.400 Our voting rights are under attack right now. The way 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.000 we live and survive is under attack. Right now, Our 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.479 schools are under attack. The way we educate our children 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.360 is under attack. Whatever you're doing is what you would 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.080 have been doing then. And if you're doing something, send 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.040 us footies and let us know. Like, we want to 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.280 shout people out who are actually doing something, and it 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.320 has to go beyond hashtag activism but actual boots on 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.399 the ground. So I'll shout out right now Cliff and 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:55.399 Latash Brown, who are constantly on the ground doing this 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.920 work from you know, advocating for Tennessee State, but also 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.240 for voting rights and Southern black girls and everything in between. 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.399 Okay, now we have a listener question. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.000 Hey, my name is Aris and I'm from California and 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.080 I am interested in your thoughts if you have any 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.200 at this point on the next presidential cycle in twenty 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.520 twenty eight, I realized it's a bit early. We have 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.040 not actually voted this year. However, our choices are pretty 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.760 much set in stone. It's a particular interest to me 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.879 as a California native, because I have watched our current governor, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.520 Gavin Newsom make moves, particularly in the last four years, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.280 that make it clear to me that he is eyeing 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.160 a run for president. We also have our current Vice president, 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.600 Kamala Harris, who is a California native, has held state 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.440 and local office here and actually run for president. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:48.200 Hopefully she will be. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:53.400 The incumbent party's VP and a lame duck term. Typically 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.560 that person gets a bit of difference. I know there's 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.639 still primaries, but they get a bit of difference. However, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.840 Kamala isn't the typical VP. Do you think she'll get 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.760 that difference or will someone like Gavin move ahead and 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:06.760 become a front runner. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.280 What do you mean by well names? 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:11.200 Is that what you said? 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:12.600 Paris? Yeah? 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:13.080 I like her. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:13.840 I like that name. 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:14.680 Eric. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.440 Thank you for that question. I think kudos to you 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.160 for being forward thinking and thinking about twenty twenty eight 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.080 and so I don't want you to think I'm not 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.399 answering your question. I hear it, and I hear the 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.399 candidates you're putting out there. I do want to say 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.520 the uncautioned people, because this frustrates me when we start 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.840 talking about twenty twenty four and twenty twenty one. As 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.720 soon as one election cycles over, the media runs to 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.359 look at the next cycle. I would say a week 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.760 is an eternity in politics, and I would caution people 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.400 from thinking that twenty twenty eight candidates are already set 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.960 in stone. I imagine in two thousand and four people 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.560 thought that until a young senator by the name of 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:56.119 Barack Obama came on the scene and disrupted a political dynasty. 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.240 I would imagine that at some point people thought John 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.760 Edwards was a you in to be the Democratic nominee 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.679 for president, until a little affair popped up and he 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.160 was knocked out. Every October we have an October surprise, 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.040 So I would say, let's focus on this particular election, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.520 because you'd be surprised. 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:17.600 At how things change. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.600 But more importantly, we're at a point of an existential 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.800 threat to our country. I don't know that we'll have 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.840 a democracy in existence in twenty twenty eight, so I 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.320 think we're all really preoccupied with twenty twenty four right now, 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.040 even though I completely understand your question and thank you 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.959 for sending it. Send it again in four years, and 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.320 we'll definitely break it down those new slate of candidates, 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.119 because I hope there's some more young blood, because we 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.640 should have a wider choice of people to choose from. 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:46.960 Can I just say, Tiffany, your point is well taken, 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:51.280 because God knows, we'll talk about the topic later, but 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.119 the underpinning of democracy is certainly at risk. But I 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.439 will say that Aris is to Aris's intent, it is 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.080 true the race has started before the race has ever begun. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.800 And the only thing I would submit is I think 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.480 probably both the candidates you mentioned, the California as you mentioned, 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:10.159 will probably be considered. But I also know that there 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.640 are gonna be people whose names we cannot call right now, 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.199 who may show up and pop off, similar to what 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.000 Tiffany mentioned about Barack Obama, the little known state senator 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.720 come US senator, And so I think it'll be a 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.400 crowded feel and I don't think there's gonna be any 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.600 difference given to anyone unless Biden was able to legally 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.760 run for a third derm, which he can't, so I 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.480 don't think there's gonna be much difference come around the 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.160 next Democratic primary. 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.400 And with that, we got to pay the bills. We'll 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.399 be back after this break with a deep dive on 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.440 Project twenty five. 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:59.200 What is Project twenty twenty five? It is everyone here, 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.440 this is the movement. We are going to be prepared 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.520 day one, January twenty twenty twenty five to hit the 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:10.680 ground running as conservatives to really help the next president. 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:16.199 Heritage got on the book on the marker as an 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.560 organization by delivering the first mandate for leadership in nineteen 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:25.480 eighty to President elect Reagan. This task in twenty twenty 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.080 four is too big for any one think tank. This 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.679 has to be a movement, and what we've done is 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:34.000 use our convening power haired Heritage to bring the entire 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.600 movement together. So twenty twenty five is not a Heritage thing, 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:42.560 it's a Conservative movement thing. What we're doing is systematically 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.560 preparing to march into office and bring a new army 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:53.320 of aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.240 battle against the deep state. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.280 That was Paul Dan's from Project twenty twenty five telling 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.880 us the truth about what this really is the one 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.560 thing I want to flag for y'all. On the outset 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.760 is Peter Navarro, who is credited with being the master 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.399 architect of Project twenty twenty five, was just sentenced to 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.560 serve time in federal prison two weeks ago for refusing 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.720 to comply with the congressional subpoena about his role in 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:23.119 the insurrection. And alas, here we are with the insurrectionist Blueprint, 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.440 also known as twenty Project twenty twenty five. All nine 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.560 hundred plus pages of it have been shared with you, 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.399 Tiff and Andrew. I did not go through every single page, 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.800 but I went through enough. And here's the thing that 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:40.359 stood out to me. Woke progressivism, woke culture warriors, woke bureaucrats, 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:47.119 woke extremism, woke propaganda, woke agenda, wokeism, woke dominated system 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:53.080 of public schools and university, woke revolutionaries whoa radicals, supposedly 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:58.520 woke faction, woke policies in corporate America, woke gender ideology, 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.639 and even the Department of Education got some strays with 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.280 as a convenient one stop shop for. 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.320 The woke education cartel. Do you notice the trend? 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:09.240 I do? 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:09.960 Can? I? 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:12.399 Is this crazy? 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.040 I just can I just I want to discover a 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.840 little bit of background for the viewers. So this is 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.680 the birth child of the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.400 is a very conservative think tank that came out under 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.680 President Nixon, so that should tell you something. But they 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:29.159 really started gaining traction of power under President Ronald Reagan. 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.480 The Project twenty five A lot of organizations, a lot 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.600 of groups, a lot of constituencies have policy agendas. So 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.879 policy or Project twenty five is kind of like that, 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.120 but extremely more dangerous. And I'll tell you why. It's 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.359 a board of more than eighty conservative organizations all's one 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:53.520 hundred Now Project is one hundred, one hundred organizations, all 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:58.159 linked in this whole cesspool of policies to dark money, 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:05.240 including Leonard Leo, who was very influential in shaping the 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.440 Supreme Court of the United States under Donald Trump, very 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.199 attached to him. It does not respect the separation of 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.480 church and state, and it is literally trying to reimagine 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:18.320 the executive brands of government. You heard him say weaponized conservatives. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.840 They've put millions of dollars in their political arm Heritage 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.920 for America. The interesting thing about this Angela U and 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.560 Andrew you both probably know this. Heritage Foundation used to 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.480 be led by a black woman, k Cole James, who 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.840 is a Hampton University graduate and sister girl was definitely 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.159 parroting all the talking points, all the ridiculous statements coming 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:40.120 out of Heritage Foundation. 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:41.040 They're not new. 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.560 A lot of these policies aren't even new, they're just 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.119 repackaged and put out there. The reason why we should 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:48.919 take this seriously, because like I said, a lot of 0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.600 groups will put out these policy agendas is because they 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.040 have all aligned. And so Andrew makes this point. I 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:56.880 don't want to steal your point, Andrew, but Andrew makes 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.760 the point all the time that we talk about Donald 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.680 Trump and the Republican Party as though they're separate things, 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.440 and they have now merged. The Republican Party is now 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:09.479 run by right wing zealots and MAGA extremists. These are 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.720 the people they are beholden to. And so the whole 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.479 list that Angela just ran down. Should Republicans take the 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:21.080 presidency and potentially the House and potentially the Senates, they 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.240 will be able to rough house and ramshot all of 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.640 these policies through at the federal level, which is their agenda. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.840 And Angelo go through all of it. I have more 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.040 questions than I do answers, but I want to punctuate 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.679 how dangerous Project twenty twenty five is. It's not the 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.080 first time we've seen it, and hopefully it will be 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:40.600 the last time we talk about it. 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:41.760 But I have my doubts. 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:43.640 And Andrew, uh huh. 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.280 You know, I Agreechiff, the dangers here can't be underscore. 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.840 So all of us know the name Koch Brothers. We say, 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.400 it is talked about all the time, very wealthy Koch 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.560 brother Industries, Da Da Da Da Da. Well, before there 0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:01.280 were the Koch Brothers, there was Richard Mellon's. He is 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:06.160 the person responsible for founding the Heritage Foundation and setting 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:11.440 up the initial cadre of conservative organizations that didn't exist 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:16.040 then but were created in the mid nineteen seventies after 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:24.880 Republicans felt frankly annihilated after Nixon's stepping down from the 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.920 White House. At that time, liberals frankly actually had organization. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.479 They had funded media outlets, they had funded think tanks, 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.720 their ideas had gotten traction. They had just passed the 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:43.920 Voting Rights Act. We were thriving in many ways, and 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.040 at that point, rich white men as represented by scathe, 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:55.360 Melonscafe Mills, Cokes, all those folks. They were top five 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.600 cores as we know the cores be a corps family. 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.560 The top five Sservative donors got together and put tens 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.840 of millions, now hundreds of millions of dollars into building 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.720 what we now know today as the new Conservative movie. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.080 They were aided by white women under school to add. 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.360 That, no doubt about it, but certainly this was these 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:21.040 were white men and billions of money either inherited or 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.480 manipulated through the system, and they put their money back 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.840 in protecting their hides. Now this is this is where 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:31.120 I found the danger of Tiff and Angela. It is 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.560 that these folks. Before it was about getting Republicans elected 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.640 right and governing through the elected process. Now it is 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:44.120 about the tens of I don't know hundreds of thousands 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:49.320 of federal workers who will now be replaced as public servants, 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.680 which means these are these are individuals who serve regardless 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.040 of whether there's a democratic or Republican administration. Where these 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.280 folks kept getting caught up were because they wanted to 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:04.080 achieve one goal. But career service people, professionals who work 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.200 in the Department of Agriculture and Energy and education will say, oh, 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.560 I'm so sorry, mister secretary, you can't do that, because 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.560 that's against the law per section such and such and 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.760 such and such and such. Well, they don't want people 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.720 checking them like that. They want loyalists who are willing 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:22.440 to do whatever the executive says. These people envisioned something 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:27.720 that is known as the unitary executive, and what that 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:29.840 means is not just. They don't believe in a separation 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.360 of powers. They don't believe in a separation of states, 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:39.600 separation of governance, meaning the judiciary the executive in the legislative. 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.560 They believe that the president, when elected president, has allsought 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.200 the power. I have news for those folks. We got 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.080 rid of that when we were founded. The American Revolution 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.720 was about throwing off the yoke of the unitary executive 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.120 the king. We don't elect kings in the United States 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.560 of America. So if anybody ever gets deluded that these 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.480 folks are actually championing democracy, that these folks actually believe 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:11.160 in standing up, protecting, conserving the constitution, or that their 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.440 strict construction is we hear that term a lot of 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.200 times referred to Republicans or conservatives that's not what it 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.280 is at all. They only believe that to this end 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.400 that their agenda wins. When their agenda doesn't win, they 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.800 don't believe in the judiciary, they don't believe in the legislative, 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.840 and if the president is the problem, they don't believe 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.320 in the executive at that time. There are no commitments 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.400 to beliefs, as we've all heard in politics, no permanent friends, 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:42.480 no permanent enemies, only permanent interest So their interests and 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.760 their beliefs and their philosophy is all about winning for them, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.920 and the moment that they're not winning or their philosophy 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.320 can be offended at any moment, and that's where we 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:52.960 are right now. 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:54.960 That's I think the thing. So we talked about the 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:55.720 Koch brothers. 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.080 We talked about the one hundred plus organizations who've signed 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.920 on to this cotion to participate in dismantling the federal 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.120 government department by department, agency by agency, appointee by appointee 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.840 and burrowed in employees. 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.560 Yes, but they would burrow in, which is also not new. 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.960 They talked about it being an issue long before even 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.280 Barack Obama was president, and people burrowed in they would 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.920 be political and they just found the safest career job 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.320 and they stay there. They've been talking about doing that, 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.840 and now I think now it's on a larger scale. 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.440 I think the other thing that's very fascinating to me, 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.760 I just want to acknowledge that I envy their ability 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:43.320 to unite around some common goals. I am jealous of it. 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.600 I am frustrated by the fact that we don't have 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:50.400 something like this, we meaning Black folks, that represent our interests, 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.440 because when we do. I talk about it all the time, 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.840 the Black Agenda that was put forth by the Black 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.880 to the Future Action Fund, by our dear sister Alicia Garza. 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.240 It is like pulling teeth to get Black folks to 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.200 support something that benefits our best interests. They want to 0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:07.760 know who wrote it, why they wrote it, When did 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.000 they write it, Who's in charge? 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:09.560 Was it a man. 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.120 If it's not a man, I can't get behind it. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.799 If it was a woman, is a woman that I like? 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.560 All of that is so frustrating to me, and I 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.719 get so upset when we can't set aside a thing 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.680 to focus on the main thing. And they've done this 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.400 here and they've been doing it for many years. Here's 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.160 one place where I will say that they have a 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.319 big benefit. Speaking of DEI and dollars, they didn't earn. 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.319 They put the dollars they didn't earn towards something that 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.600 benefits them in a very towards a common. 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.440 Goal twenty two million dollars. 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.839 So I bet, I'm just thinking we probably could get 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.759 on the same page, and we probably could move the 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.759 needle a little bit further down the road if we 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.080 had the same resources they have to expend on these things, 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:56.640 whether it's Americans for Prosperity, or the American Legislative Exchange Council, 0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:01.399 or the Heritage Foundation or now twenty twenty five, all 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.719 of which have benefited from the infrastructure that they've been establishing. 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.640 Frankly since sixteen nineteen. How about that. 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.200 Well, there may be a point of disagreement here because 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.560 I so I think the Republican Party they're easier to 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.920 coalesce because they have one common goal. 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.359 I mean, racism is at the root of everything they want. 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.279 So I don't want to compare black folks to them 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.120 like our I think our fractured interest is because we're 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.000 not a homogenous group of people. We have different interests, 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.799 we have different goals. I think that's the beauty of 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.360 us as a people. And I often hear people credit 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.080 the Republicans with like, oh, but they have such a 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.520 simple message or they're better at communicating. I don't know 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.680 if that's true. I think their audience is a little 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.280 more simple and wilfully ignorant to a lot of things 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.240 around policy. I think on the left and look, listen, 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.680 ignorance extends to no matter what political party, no matter 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:58.040 what kills our economic background. Yeah, exactly, it's not partisan. However, 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.200 I think on the right side you have people who 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.400 are just pretty much flatlined. They're an easier group to coalesce. 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.160 On the left, you have people who I would argue 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.080 are a bit more curious about things, are not so 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:17.360 easily manipulated, and is a much bigger tent of people, 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.279 and so we all represent our interest passionately. On the right, 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.960 you you know, have something that's very complicated, like the 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.480 Affordable Care Act, and you could throw out something like 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.919 death panels and people will latch onto it. On the left, 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.440 it's a little more intellectual. People have questions about that, 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.440 and certainly when it comes to black folks, I think 0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:40.160 we because we have been so out of the process 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.759 for so long. We have been denied for so long 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.239 that now that we're in this process, I think we've 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.279 done an amazing job of working together and being a 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.840 tight community and supporting each other and fighting for a 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.440 lot of our rights in a much more wholesome and 0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.640 holistic way than the Republican Party, whose entire agenda is 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.759 based on hate and hating other people who they think 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.040 is taking something from them. 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.600 Yeah, I think that their their agenda. 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.200 If I could andrew just really quick, their agenda is 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.719 more simple. But I think it's intellectually dishonest too for 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.560 us to say everyone who votes conservative is dumb. 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.040 I agree, you know, like I think that we have 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:21.840 to be careful with that. 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.319 I'm also saying that they're the the organization behind and 0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.960 the operation behind what they've done is actually massive and 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.400 it's incredibly intricate, even if the messaging is simple, I 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:37.400 think that it would be really uh, it's not smart 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.759 for us to say that it's not very complex. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.280 They have five oh one C three C fours pass. 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.000 They have again an American Legislative Exchange Council, which is 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.840 boilerplate legislation for people in all fifty states, to send 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.000 in and to ensure that it all gets past. That's 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.200 what all this anti DEI legislation is now in thirty 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:56.880 plus states. 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.960 So it is incredibly complex and it we could argue. 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.600 That many of them are focused just on the racism 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.160 of it all, but it started under the guise of 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.520 fiscal conservativism. Even when you look at their four pillars 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.640 that they're all saying that they had to agree on, 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.720 they're still really broad and honestly, Joe Biden's border policy 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.239 fits in with number three. 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.400 I'll read it. It says, restore the family. This is 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:20.959 number one. 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.640 Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life, and 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.360 protect our children. We know what that really means to 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.160 somebody else. Maybe it means something exactly what it is. 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:34.200 Number two, dismantle the administrative state and return self governance 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.320 to the American people. 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.080 Expect for what is Yovagina. 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:42.240 Number three defend our nation's sovereignty, borders and bounty against 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.200 global threats. Sounds like it might not be a bad 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.239 idea if you don't read between the lines. And four 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:52.360 secure our God given individual rights to live. I'm sorry 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.920 to live freely, I said to lie to life freely 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.440 that too, to live freely what our Constitution calls the 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.359 blessing of liberty. So when you hear these things on 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.920 their face, they don't sound bad. But when you get 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.040 into the nine hundred plus pages and they want to 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.400 dismantle the Department of Justice and they want to ensure 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.240 that a president can manipulate what's happening in the FBI 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.600 and DOJ to target political opponents, that reads a little differently. 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.239 So I just I think that there's something smart here. 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.640 I there is something smart. But guess what they got 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:27.080 it from us. Before there was ever an American Legislative 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.680 Exchange Council, there was something known as the Center for 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:37.760 Policy Alternatives. This was a national coalition of progressively aligned 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.960 legislators across all fifty states of the United States, and 0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:45.600 they came together, produced the Policy Manual every year, and 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.680 then progressive legislators in the states to take those policies 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.560 and then work toward implementation. Know that that pre existed, 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.080 what the right existed. A lot of people know me 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.880 as a candidate, but before as a candidate and while 0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.400 I was running for office and serving an office, I 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:04.040 was part of yielding progressive pipelining. In my case, it 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.520 was candidate development recruitment, and then after that it was 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.120 gathering those same people that we saw and helped get 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.239 elected to make sure that they were then pushing the 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.160 policies that would advance our goals. Tiffany, I agree with 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.879 you from the standpoint that there's some is so much 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.759 easier to organize people who are all similarly interested in 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.879 the same thing, and that same thing we can all 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.640 differ about. But I think that same thing is about 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.919 We've had power for a very long time. There are 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.520 threats to our access to that power. We exist to 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.920 maintain our power. The Koch brothers are not gratuitous. The 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.400 reason why they helped build a conservative pipeline on the 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.759 right is because they are the largest polluting industries. The 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.960 coke industries and the subsidiaries that they own are among 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.879 the largest polluters in the country. So it would make 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.400 all the sense in the world to see them elect 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:04.080 conservative who are anti EPA, who are judges who say, 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.120 oh no, we're not going to be the big enforcement state. 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.600 We are going to be the little, small government state 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.840 where these issues are handled discreetly and not with a 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.480 big hammer like the EPA. They were acting in their interests. 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.120 I'll say this, I think the left has fallen off 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:28.239 on girding up our institutions that then advance our ideas. 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.200 These but with the right has taught us is that 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:34.000 they are willing to go all the way in and 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.440 constitution be damned and courts be damned, it doesn't matter. 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.400 We're willing to go all the way in to conserve 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.600 our power. The reason why the Left, I think, is 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.680 a harder group to organize and coalesce around a single 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.279 idea is because largely we're motivated by what our need is, 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.600 just as the right is. Their need is to maintain 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.120 the power that they've always had for us. Our need 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.440 might be food on the table, gas in the tank, women, 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.160 protections at the workplace, and all so with autonomy on 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.279 their bodies. Black people's ability to go to schools are 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.680 then our ability to maintain those same institutions. When those 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:12.480 institutions start producing black folks who then end up becoming 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:16.360 successful parts of boards, elected officials, potentially presidents of the 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.400 United States, and then they challenge our power. So what 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.480 do we do? We go and delegitimize their institutions so 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.319 that they can't continue to produce the folks who are 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.959 going to threaten our power. The right is the right 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.959 is they're no more brilliant than we are. We did 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.799 this first, they learned from us, and then we fell 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:41.759 off the bus because our needs, as basically as they 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.000 may be, became more divergent with the diversity of people 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.040 in our coalition and the needs that each of us 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.759 have had. And so we've got to get back to 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.680 the basic yaw. And even if we were dealing with 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.480 your point here, Angela, which is just amongst black folks, 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.160 how do we do this? My suggestion would be one 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.440 we need to get a political operation in order that 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.719 trains the candidates we want to see then can get 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.040 those folks successfully elected. Right, So there's a whole political 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.160 arm to this thing we have that. 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:09.120 We don't support it. 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.319 See a lot of yes we do. 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.680 We have the CBC Institute, let me tell you collective 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.640 doing that. We have the Joint Center, which almost went 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.160 completely under because we don't support the things that we have. 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.759 This is what I'm talking about, Angela. That that that 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.319 is the point to be had here, which is from 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.040 a resource standpoint, the left has money. 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.080 Not talking about the left, you got money plenty. 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.479 Every no but but This is why it's but but. 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:35.560 But. 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.239 The left doesn't exist without the Blacks. In fact, the 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:43.880 left doesn't exist at all and could never exist without us. 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.480 And so if you are interested in advancing the left's agenda, 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:51.600 then your interests must coincide with building an electoral operation that, 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.520 by the way, doesn't just train, doesn't just elect, but 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.040 has a hammer at the end of the day, which 0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:00.440 means if you don't do what you committed to doing, 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.560 if you get in there and then you get sold 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.960 out to the power interests that you were elected to dismantle, 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.520 we are taking you out, all right, We're taking you 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.640 So our enforcement mechanism has to exist on a level 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.160 that's bigger than the fact that we share the same 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.160 skin tone. That, ain't it. We can be that right. 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.200 You just gave examples of the Hampton woman who used 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.759 to be you know, over heritage. They got them everywhere. 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.279 I would venture to argue that the people who are 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.279 being appointed to the board of trustees at Tennessee State University, 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.640 who all may look like us, have a different interest 0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:35.560 in mind. They didn't get a pointer on the same 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.240 that they that the others got booted out for no reason. 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.280 All right, So we got to be suspicious about those intentions. 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:45.759 But we have the power to build those same structures 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.799 on our side and maintain them on our side. We 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.160 just have to decide that that's what we're in the 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.839 interest of doing. And instead, I think we all get 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.840 freaked out by election cycle to election cycle, we have 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.920 this big old threat of democracy diminishing over our heads, 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.160 and we compromised our way out of what we want 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.520 and sake of what we know, and sake of what 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.200 we have available at this current h. 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.720 But I just want to say I agree with everything 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.239 you said, Andrew, and I just think it's tragic that 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.520 you are not on like every campaign ought to be 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:21.920 calling you, every consultant group ought to be calling you, 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.440 because this is the work that you've done, and you 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.759 just informed me. I mean mine was much more anecdotal, 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.880 and then they get all their shit from us. The 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.440 way that black folks have organized in this country has 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.440 cast a wide net of influence across the globe, so 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.120 even their language comes from us. They didn't know what 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:41.200 woke was ten years ago. They literally cut in paste 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.879 and none of this stuff is new. We've already had 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.080 to make America great again. 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:45.600 Candidate. 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.440 That was Ronald Reagan, that was his whole slogan. We 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.920 already saw all these policies come out as a Nixon error, 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:52.480 and that's why I think it's so important to say 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.640 they were aided by white women because Phyllis Slapley let 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.600 a whole army of folks trying and even physical conservative 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.400 movements Angela are rooted in racism. So I think we 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.120 all agree the same, but I think we all have 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.680 different approaches. I think this could be a mini pod personally, 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.879 but I think we all have different approaches. It needs 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:10.680 to be come to how to get there, But I 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:11.880 know we got to move on and to I have 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.719 a question for you because so, okay, we see this 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.359 policy that the Heritage Foundation has putting out Project twenty 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:22.040 twenty five. Let's say, worst case scenario, Donald Trump is 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:26.160 elected and the Republicans have one of the chambers of Congress, 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.200 the upper Chamber and the senator lower chamber in the House, 0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.640 how likely is it that this policy will start to 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.760 take shape? How likely will they be able to reimagine 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.319 the executive branch of government because they can't do much 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.520 without congressional approval. 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.080 Well, first and. 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.480 Foremo host Project twenty twenty five is already well underway, Like, 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.160 this isn't something that they're waiting for Donald Trump to 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:49.000 be elected for. 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.480 The point where they would have to wait for his election. 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:56.640 Is around who gets into these schedule f jobs, federal 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.640 government jobs that aren't appointed. The part that they would 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.600 need to wait for, who is appointed as those cabinet secretaries, 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:07.080 other federal appointments that are not Senate confirmed. If they 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.160 have you said, he has a chamber, if he has 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.840 the Senate, he can confirm his full slate of judges, 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.319 his full slate of everybody that is senior enough in 0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:19.439 the administration that needs a Senate confirmed appointment. So there's 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.600 a lot that they can do. He can do a 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.360 lot with the executive order. If Donald Trump is elected again, 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.560 he will dare the Supreme Court to challenge anything that 0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.960 he tries to get through via executive order. And I 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.960 think it will be including things that should be reserved 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:33.680 for legislation. 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:38.080 So I yeah, like at this point, go ahead. 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.240 I agreed, Angela, and I would just say this, Remember 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.759 we used to we would we heckled Mitt Romney about 0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.239 the binders full of women. That's when they say it's 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:51.200 talking about candidate's heaps. This is the binder full of conservatives. 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:56.120 What they are building are the resumes of individuals that 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.360 they want to go in. And Angela talked about the 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.640 appointment level. But what makes this even more dangerous is 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:06.120 that they're talking about this at the careers. They're saying, 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.239 we want you in the fuck. Fuck the appointments. Excuse me, lord, 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.520 please forgive me, y'all, forget the appointments. This is about 0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.160 We're going to go into these departments and staff up 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:21.839 with conservatives who will effectuate our agenda regardless of who 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.040 the president is. And if the president is the president 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.759 of our choosing at this time, then you act in 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:33.000 their interest. If they're not, then you act in our interest, 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.520 and you be a stop gap to whatever progressives may 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.440 want to do, because now you're part of the wheel 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:43.600 that keeps this machine running, and that that we have 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.760 to all be terrified. Well we all want. 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.120 This is my last thing on this. I just want 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.120 to point out to Tip's point on page four of 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:57.080 the nine hundred page document. In the forward, it says, 0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.799 today the American family is in crisis. Forty percent of 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.879 all children are born to unmarried mothers, including more than 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:04.440 seventy percent of black children. 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.880 They go on to talk. 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:12.920 About pornography must be outlawed illicit drug. Their product is 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.560 as addictive as idiolicit drug and as psychologically destructive as 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:17.240 any crime. 0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.960 I mean, it's I just think that. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.000 The trip on this pornography. When the Republican Convention was 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.600 held in Florida down to Tampa a couple of years ago, 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.840 the hotels, the highest search rates they had were to 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:35.440 porn sites, and the and the strip of houses sol 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.080 record profits over the. 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.560 Super Bowl or I Am not confused about the hypocrisy. 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.880 All I'm saying is if they can slide that twenty 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.560 two million over this way, we watch out because We've 0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:48.400 always been able to do a lot with a little 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.600 and I'm just saying we ain't got the same resources. 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.480 But what can I say? 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:57.080 My challenge is to is to the progressive white donors 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.600 who who want to be in alignment, stand up some 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.480 money and allow us to build the institutions that protect 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.680 us and move our issues more progressively forward. 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.680 If they're not afraid of DEI challenge it. 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.080 I just want to say the most important thing that 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.800 Angela said that I hope everybody takes note of Project 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.480 twenty twenty five is already underway. The Civil War didn't 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:22.759 start with the first gunfire between the Union and the Confederacy. 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:26.640 Battles don't start with the first knuckles thrown. Like the 0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.279 battle is already happening. We are already in the thick 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.000 of it. So if we're all sitting around waiting for 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:32.880 the big bad boogey Man, the big bad boogey Man 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:33.560 is here. 0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.120 I just want to say, for the record, y'all don't 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:37.680 even want to talk about this. Y'all thought you were 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.200 gonna have nothing. I knew you was lying. 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:44.440 Anyway, we got a lot, You got a lot. We 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:45.759 got warmer commercial break. 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.000 But we will be back and we're going to talk 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.520 about a new strippers Bill of Rights in Washington Stit. 0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:52.640 Yes, strippers, I got something. 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:07.560 We just got done talking about Republicans pornography in strippers. 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.760 And here we are now talking about a Democratic Governor 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:14.720 Ja Nsley signing the Stripper's Bill of Rights into law 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.280 in Washington State, which he did on March twenty sixth. 0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:22.680 The bill was sponsored by state Senator Rebecca Saldana. 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.000 And we have a clip. 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.680 It's pretty simple. While we're passing this bill, These are 0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:31.960 working folks, and working people deserve safety in the environment 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:32.799 in which they work. 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:34.080 Knew it for. 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.080 Governor Jay Ensley has signed a bill into law that 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:40.719 will improve safety at strip clubs in Washington. He was 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:44.160 surrounded by the bill supporters this afternoon. Senate Bill sixty 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.160 one oh five is the so called Stripper's Bill of Rights. 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.839 One of the major changes that bill implements is to 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.560 remove the Lewd Conduct Code in Seattle, which could pave 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.120 the way for strip clubs to serve alcohol. That bill 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:00.480 also means places like Supernova in Seattle will have to 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.400 cap fees that clubs can charge dancers, install panic buttons, 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.200 and ensure security staffing requirements. 0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.440 I love this, sorry angel' go ahead. 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:11.839 No go go for a tip? 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:12.359 You love this? 0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:13.839 What you love? 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:20.480 I love this because these strippers do not There's no 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.920 four one K that comes with strippers. They don't get benefits. 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:25.839 These are women who are and I know there are 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.320 male strippers, but predominantly women drive revenue. 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:29.600 At the strip club. 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.120 They have to tip out to everybody from the bartender 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:37.320 to the DJ. Their money is taxed uh not only 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.680 by their fellow co workers, but also by the government. 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:44.040 People think strippers don't pay taxes, Yes they do. Something 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:49.840 similar happened in Los Angeles. Strippers United organized there and I, 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:52.719 you know, grew up in Atlanta Andrew in Florida. Like 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:56.239 the strip club industry is big, it's massive. I've been 0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.480 to strip clubs a few times. I don't want to 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.319 speak for anybody else on PA, but I've only been 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.520 to strip clubs a few times. And in talking to 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.040 these women, I did a documentary on strippers. When I 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.719 was at BT, I followed around Buffy the Body. I 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.840 followed around Buffy the Body, but everybody forgure. 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.600 Yeah, body, Buffy and body. Because a lot of. 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:18.440 Strippers at that time ended up on video sets and 0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.279 so I got to spend time with them. And I 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:24.440 remember sitting one woman down, and you know, we had 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.719 our cameras. I kept trying to make the dancers comfortable 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:30.399 and one of the women started crying and I told 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.000 them to stop filming. And I asked her, hey, like, 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.320 I'm a friend. We're here just to tell your story, 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.719 and she said, I don't want my grandmother to see this. 0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:40.680 And it just reminds you of the humanity. And in 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.360 talking to strippers, they said, when you think about how 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:45.960 they're treated because they have no you know, protection once 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:49.000 they leave these clubs. And they said the people who 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:52.200 treat them the worst are other women, that other women 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.440 scrunt up their noses, they talk about them, they are 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:58.400 disrespectful to them, which made my heartbreak. And so anytime 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.720 I've gone to a strip club, I always I tip. 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:03.720 I'm nice to the women. I you know, these are mothers, 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:05.919 a lot of them. They're going through a lot, and 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.640 a lot of these state laws make it hard for 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.759 the strippers because they have rules in place for companies 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.880 to treat employees like contractors. They're not full time employees 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.160 where they have benefits. So I am supportive of all strippers. 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:22.359 You drive the. 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.920 Revenue, You are the stars, and honestly, some of the 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:27.480 talent that's they're athletes. Like some of the things they 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.440 do with their bodies. It's like a naked cirquday sleet. 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:34.480 They are impressive. They deserve our respect and they deserve rights, 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:36.279 just like everybody else who goes to work. 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:37.080 Every day. 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.040 You're here, you you you hit on a uh tiff. 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.360 It's a big industry in Florida. It's bigger, and I 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.279 can hear the moral voices of folks right now in 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.000 my ear around this is you know, this is not 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:57.400 christ like others. Listen, if the government allows these to exist, 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.880 and they exist in your cities and te and states 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.839 and that kind of thing. If it is going to 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:07.080 be an industry, then why are we allowing it to 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:11.120 continue to be an industry of shame and abuse where 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.440 people can be taking advantage advantage of and treat it 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.239 worse than dogs when we allow it to be a 0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:23.360 sanctioned operating industry. If it's going to be sanctioned and operated, 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:28.560 then then at least hold these owners to account that 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.520 they've got to treat these folks like people, like humans, 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:36.680 like employees, like folks who are deserving of integrity in 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:39.719 the workplace. So you're not going to hear judgment pass 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.200 by me on any of it. I'm in full support 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.600 of if it's going to be an industry, If the 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:48.040 sex industry is going to be an industry, then don't 0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.040 let it be in the shadows of places where the 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.400 CEOs and the lawyers and the doctors and bankers and 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.200 all these folks get to go at the end of 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.799 the night or the beginning of the morning, get you know, 0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:01.800 rocks off, and then it's all you're leaving these folks 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:05.600 holding the bag literally and also all the consequences and 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:08.239 dangers that come with it. Protect these folks in the 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.799 workplace period. If it ain't a workplace, then don't let 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:11.759 it network. 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:12.160 Thank Andrews. 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.320 Some of the things that the bill includes are limits 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:21.160 of charges. It limits the charges establishments can impose on dancers, 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:26.759 mandates club employee training on sexual harassment prevention, human trafficking, identification, 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:30.880 conflict de escalation in first aid, the exact kind of 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.120 protections you all have been talking about. So with that, 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.480 shout out to Washington State for leading the way. We'll 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.640 see what else goes down in this in this space, 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.200 all right, And now we have a listener question. 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:49.759 I'm DONALDA. McCarthy. I'm a public school teacher in Florida. 0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:54.080 How can we have better access to the decision makers 0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:59.160 for road repairs and commercial zoning so that those who 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:03.279 want to be business owners in better locations can know 0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:04.800 to get in at. 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.840 The ground level, literal ground level. 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.680 How can we have better access to decision makers? 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.640 Nice Mayor Gillum, this soundlight one for you. 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:19.320 Yeah, man, this is straight up municipal I will first 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.520 of all, thank you for the question, and also thank 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:25.640 you for the work that you do educating our next generation. 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:30.120 Big sweet spot for me teachers and educators answer the 0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:34.520 question of getting better access to decision makers when it 0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:38.000 comes to public infrastructure in the future of where businesses 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.880 are located, street scape, slow, and so forth. Almost every 0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:42.520 community I know of it, at least in the state 0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:46.200 of Florida, has public works departments and a public works director. 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.520 These are the folks who largely work in the bellows 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:51.600 of the government. They're not the folks you see on 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:55.080 the television or the local access TV at the city 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:59.080 council and county council meetings. These folks work in the 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.640 government building and so that means any citizen by and 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.800 large is able to go make an appointment, sit down with, 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:10.160 share your ideas, raise concerns with. You know, we were 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.960 talking on another subject about careerists. These are the careersts. 0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.760 These are the people who spend their life's work understanding 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.960 the rules and how to make a city function. And 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.680 I would strongly recommend a lot of people I learned 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.160 when I was in municipal government just you know, they 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.439 had concerns and questions they just didn't know the way. 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.200 They didn't know who to go to. They thought they 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.560 had to meet with the mayor, or the city council 0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:34.880 or the city manager in order to advance that idea. 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.760 And the truth is you can meet with those people. 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:39.479 It may take you a little longer to get there. 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.560 But with these other career service employees, it's their life 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.920 and they it would be their pleasure. I think I 0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:49.880 could say it with the fullness of my heart, it 0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:52.400 would be their pleasure to sit down with people who 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:56.040 live in those communities, hear from you about what you 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.280 want to have changed, and then go to work on 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:01.600 your behalf and be very responsible to you all the 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.840 way through the process. So thanks again for the question. 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.080 And I think there's a really simple answer to it, 0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:07.880 which is to go see some of these folks, your 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:14.880 public works directors, your facilities management folks, the folks who 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.880 sit in your small business development offices, sit down with 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:19.600 them and let them hear your concerns. I think you'd 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.000 be surprised how response did they'd be. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:23.040 Thank you, Andrew. 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:29.800 Okay, and now it's time for our calls to action TIF. 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.560 I'm gonna start with you me. 0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.960 Okay, I have a simple called action. 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:41.640 I would like to ask our listeners and viewers to 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:47.000 help amplify native Land because we talked a bit on 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.240 this show around the new rules on Instagram, and we 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.960 post a lot of our content there and I don't 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.080 know what's going on, but it's like, if you ever 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:58.080 said anything political, it feels like a shadow band. It 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:01.720 feels like a lot of our content is getting hidden. 1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:03.480 And so if you don't a lot of times with 1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:05.680 reels like you would see it in your feed any 1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:07.920 kind of way. And now with the new rules around 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:11.240 political content, it's been harder to get in people's feed. 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:13.920 So I would ask you drop our content in your 1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:15.680 group chat. Make sure you follow all of us on 1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.240 social media, then drop our content in your group chat, 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:23.960 share it, post it, clip it, reshare it, rate, review, share, comment, YouTube, 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:28.240 Apple podcasts, iHeart podcast all the things because that is 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.880 a huge help to us. And please, like we always say, 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.400 it's a conversation, It is not three of us talking 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.080 at you. We invite you into our political group chat. 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.920 Send us your comments, questions, make sure they're on video. 1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:44.080 Make sure don't be sending us no dissertation less than 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.760 sixty seconds. But we would like to include you all 1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:50.240 in the conversation, so just keep us in mind as 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:53.560 you're getting on those smartphones every day. 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:56.680 Thanks Tip Andrew, love. 1:00:56.520 --> 1:01:00.960 It co Scientif. But also I spent the weekend. I 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.000 know everybody in this house is tired of hearing it, 1:01:03.040 --> 1:01:08.440 but probably not listening to Cowboy Carter, and I just 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.920 just got to recommend that y'all take a listen if 1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:15.280 you haven't already, I'm sure most or many of you have. 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:19.640 But what I love, love love about the artists known 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:25.000 as Beyonce is just the intentionality with every piece of 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:28.560 that than I love. Really there isn't There is not 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:31.000 a there's not a song, a spot on there that 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:35.320 I don't love. But Requiem, which I think is on 1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.920 it is the first star on the album. In it 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:43.000 it raps it is not but it also raps the album. 1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:45.920 And I probably love it the most because it reminds 1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.680 me of another favorite song I have the don't laugh 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.600 at Me, y'all. The Battle Ham of the Republic is 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:53.440 actually one of my favorite songs, and it was written 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:58.520 by two abolitionists who were huge supporters of the Union 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:02.320 Army during the Civil War, and it just her manifesto 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.640 there her reclaiming her time if you will, if you're 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:07.840 maxing water is her resistance to being put in a 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:13.000 box and defined by a genre. It's just a breakout 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:16.520 for me, and it's what we do. We just change 1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:20.600 the game and listen to it, vibe off of it, 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.120 but also try to pay a little close attention to 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.480 what the meanings are behind each one of these songs. 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:28.720 Is their intentional and I think it's just brilliant. 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:31.640 R part and learn our history in the Southwest. 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:35.200 Love it and for mine, I am going to be 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:39.640 on the campuses of some illustrious institutions. We started this 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:43.320 show talking about, I say so, historically black colleges and universities, 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.320 and that's exactly where we'll end it. Are we taking 1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:47.760 my godsend fa on a college tour. I will be 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:52.640 at fam you at Morehouse in North Carolina, Central North Carolina, 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.720 A and T and Howard University next week, So pull 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.240 up if y'all can. I would love to see y'all 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.600 and definitely to convince this young man with the three 1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:04.800 point seven cumulative GPA who loves computer science to get 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:08.480 in there. That's an open opportunity for you all to 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:10.040 give me him on the spot. 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:14.440 So there's that, Andrew, You're not biased. There's that. 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:17.320 Baby. We've got a great computer scientist department. 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.800 By the way, thank you, Andrew. Your time is over. 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:21.360 This podcast is too. 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:25.360 We thank you all for you, thank you all for 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.720 tuning in. 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