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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode thirteen of Native Lamppod, where we give you.

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Speaker 2: Our breakdown of all things politics and culture.

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Speaker 1: You are your hosts, Angela Ride, Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillham.

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Speaker 2: What's good, everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome home?

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Speaker 4: Not fingerwaves okay? And trying to clown me because I

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Speaker 4: don't have my hair done today when we were on

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Speaker 4: our car. I just washed that out the shower. He's

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Speaker 4: trying to say, I got fingerwave. You know, I look

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Speaker 4: crazy like you.

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Speaker 5: Said I hadn't done. You said you hadn't done your hair,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I thought you was just

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Speaker 5: trying to Andrew's fingerwaves.

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Speaker 1: It's like a whole dance. And that's the moment he

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Speaker 1: did a finger Oh I thought it was a fingerwave.

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Speaker 2: Body right. Anyway, here's the thing, Andrew and Tip.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to confess the reason why I was

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Speaker 1: late for our call this morning is because I was

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Speaker 1: combing out my hair in the shower for forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: So I really apologized. It was sad, but it's center

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Speaker 2: the drive. I say, wear it big.

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Speaker 3: It looks cute, big, wear it Big.

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Speaker 1: I like ATIV And speaking of big, we need y'all

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to thank the listeners for all their

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Speaker 4: positive feedback and they're great reviews because we all read them,

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Speaker 4: and we just thank y'all for rocking with us.

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Speaker 1: This week, we are getting into the fact that lawmakers

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee recently voted to fire the entire board.

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Speaker 2: Of Tennessee State University.

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Speaker 1: Does this have anything at all to do with the

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Speaker 1: fact that the state os TSU more than two point

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Speaker 1: one billion dollars? Probably and sticking with the dirty South

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Speaker 1: Texas holding them all right. Crystal Mason recently ended her

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Speaker 1: year's long battle for trying to vote in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: She got an Eastern miracle after her five year prison

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Speaker 1: sentence for casting a ballot in Texas's twenty sixteen election

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Speaker 1: was overturned by the Court of Appeals. So massive voter

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Speaker 1: fraud is finally confirmed. Right, not so much y'all have

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Speaker 1: been asking, So we are finally answering. On this week's

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Speaker 1: deep dive, we dig into Project twenty twenty five. It

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Speaker 1: is nothing more than proof that one side is gearing

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Speaker 1: up for political war and another is treating this election

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Speaker 1: like it's just one of them days. Maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: Meet Mills meant when he said the odds against you,

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Speaker 1: and they double stacked.

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Speaker 2: Stay woke, you too, Meet you too.

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Speaker 1: After the deep dive, stick around for politics are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Washington State has passed a new Stripper's Bill of rights,

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Speaker 1: and sadly, tiff it does not include our much needed

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Speaker 1: work lessons.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, let's go rude.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, have we ever ever vacated the entire board of

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Speaker 6: a university before?

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Speaker 7: Have we ever done that?

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Speaker 8: But an HBCU that we owe two billion dollars too?

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we're gonna take We're gonna take their board.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're gonna We're gonna hold.

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Speaker 8: Them hostage, and we're gonna say you need to shut up.

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Speaker 7: About your two billion dollars.

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Speaker 8: You better sit down and shut up and accept.

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Speaker 7: The crumbs we send you.

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Speaker 8: The optics of this are horrendous.

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Speaker 7: You're going off the cliff. Don't do it. Don't do

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Speaker 7: it to yourself, and then wonder.

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Speaker 8: Why the press is attacking you and saying.

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Speaker 1: Things and saying things. And boy, do we ask something

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Speaker 1: to say on this. So as you can see here,

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Speaker 1: last week, the Tennessee State House voted sixty six to

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Speaker 1: twenty five in favor of dis miss the entire board

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee State University. As you might guess, the legislature

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Speaker 1: holds a large Republican majority who claim they are concerned

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Speaker 1: about governance and financial mismanagement. Boy, we heard of that before.

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Speaker 1: And I want to tell y'all, I think the real

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Speaker 1: issue is that in September, the Biden administration sent a

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Speaker 1: letter from Secretaries Corodona and Vilsack of Education and Agriculture, respectively,

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Speaker 1: to several states that have land grant institutions, including Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: And do you know of all of the recipients of

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Speaker 1: those letters, the one with the largest debt to a

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Speaker 1: school to a land grant institution was Tennessee with two

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Speaker 1: just there. I want to play justin Pearson sound a

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Speaker 1: legislator also from Tennessee, who you all know has been

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Speaker 1: making a lot of waves.

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Speaker 2: And then I want to hear y'all weigh in.

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Speaker 7: This is wrong and immoral.

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Speaker 9: This perpetuates the racism of previous generations into legislation today.

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Speaker 9: The University of Tennessee, a predominantly white institution, and the

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Speaker 9: state's other land grant university, did in fact get its

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Speaker 9: full state funding each year.

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Speaker 7: Some years the University.

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Speaker 9: Of Tennessee even got more than it's required funding levels.

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Speaker 9: The Tennessee State University was denied for those resources, and

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Speaker 9: because they were denied the resources, there weren't problems that occurred.

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Speaker 7: But instead of us.

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Speaker 9: Rectifying the problems that we created through racist policies by

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Speaker 9: underfunding Tennessee State University, we're now advocating to.

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Speaker 2: Vacate their board man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so weigh in here, y'all is this is a

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Speaker 1: spicy one, and I think it's an extension of what

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Speaker 1: they've been calling DEI attacks, affirmative action attacks.

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 1: So I want to hear from you, Andrew. You went

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Speaker 1: to a land grant institution called Florida A and M University.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you first.

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Speaker 5: You know. Well, so let me just say justin was

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Speaker 5: going down The representative was going down the lane of

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Speaker 5: describing the difference between the two land Grand institutions that

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Speaker 5: exists in the state of Tennessee. So what is it

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Speaker 5: UT Knoxville University of Tennessee. Knoxville is the other federally

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Speaker 5: granted land gran I think they're in eighteen hundred and

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Speaker 5: early eighteen hundred lang Grand institutions. So is Florida A

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Speaker 5: and M University. What that means is the Department of

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Speaker 5: Agriculture of the United States of America allocates or a

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Speaker 5: set of federal dollars that make their way to those institutions,

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Speaker 5: and then the state has to meet its side of

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Speaker 5: the bargain, which is to fund both of their how

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Speaker 5: do you say land grand institution at their required levels.

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Speaker 5: What the representative was saying was UT Knoxville got its

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Speaker 5: money every single year, and in some years in excess

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Speaker 5: of what they were required to have been allocated by

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Speaker 5: the legislature, and the case, however, of Tennessee State University,

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Speaker 5: the other established languorine institution, many of the years were

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Speaker 5: never funded at the level that was required. They just

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Speaker 5: all wholesale misfunding Tennessee State University. And so for those

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Speaker 5: who misunderstand whether this is reparations or if this is

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Speaker 5: ill gotten gains that just never got gotten, understand that

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Speaker 5: the state of Tennessee failed to meet their legal obligation

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Speaker 5: to fund the black school at the same level that

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Speaker 5: it was required to fund, but it funded the white

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Speaker 5: school at the required level in many years above the

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Speaker 5: required level. To my opinion, Tennessee State. First of all,

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Speaker 5: Glinda Glover is an incredible leader. She's the president of TSU.

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Speaker 5: She is also, i think she's still simultaneously the president

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Speaker 5: the international president of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. A

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Speaker 5: woman who was a supporter of my campaign for governor,

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Speaker 5: a woman who I would consider a friend, a woman

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Speaker 5: who when she lived as a young person in Washington,

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Speaker 5: d C. Grew up under the tutelage of Mary and Barry.

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Speaker 5: When she was a student up in Washington, d C,

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Speaker 5: intern FORARS campaign, So she understands hard knocks fighting right well,

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Speaker 5: it has not yet appeared to me whether TSU understands

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Speaker 5: the kind of fight the students, the alumni, the supporters,

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Speaker 5: the national community ought to be rising up right now

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Speaker 5: in defense of TSU because their failure to meet their

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Speaker 5: obligation there to suspend summarily the entire board without any justification.

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Speaker 5: The audit that was done there angela correct me if

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong, didn't reveal any legal issues malfeasance. They were

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Speaker 5: technical auditing practices and some recommendations for improvement the legislature.

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Speaker 5: There is not hiding who they are, how they feel.

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Speaker 5: They're doing it out loud and on purpose. Within minutes

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Speaker 5: of the legislation passing y'all to dismantle that board, within minutes,

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Speaker 5: the governor had already renamed all new eight members of

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Speaker 5: the board. This was no debate, There was no deliberative

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Speaker 5: process being had by legislators. Those folks went in there

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Speaker 5: and they gang banged their way using the guise of

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Speaker 5: the law to dismiss a board who was demanding the

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Speaker 5: two billion dollars they would do. And they told them

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Speaker 5: to shut up. They wouldn't shut up. They were told

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Speaker 5: them to sit down somewhere. They wouldn't sit down somewhere

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Speaker 5: and what happened. The state just decided we'll get rid

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Speaker 5: of the troublemakers and replace them with folks who are

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Speaker 5: going to be obedient and subservient. You know.

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Speaker 1: To this point, tif I wanted to raise Andrew said

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Speaker 1: he was talking about the regularly available data in the

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Speaker 1: letter to the Governor of Tennessee, Bill Ye.

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Speaker 2: They say using.

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Speaker 1: Readily available data from the National Center for Education Statistics,

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Speaker 1: basically saying like, we ain't spend no extra taxpayer money

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Speaker 1: on this to figure out that there was this funding

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Speaker 1: gap between your eighteen ninety land Grand Institution and your

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty two Land Gran Institution. But there is a

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Speaker 1: two billion, one hundred and forty seven million, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: in funding. Yeah, over thirty years. That's just over the

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Speaker 1: last thirty years, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to take him in and talk

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Speaker 4: about HBCUs and the magic that they possessed, not only

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Speaker 4: for those who attended. And this is no dis to

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Speaker 4: people who went to a PWI, but it is exhausting

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Speaker 4: sometimes when people are like, well, I went to a PWI,

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Speaker 4: but there were so many Black people was like MACEBCU.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: When we saw Black panther and people talked about Wakanda.

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Speaker 4: I say this all the time we lived in Wakanda.

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Speaker 4: We had that experience and they are magical places which

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Speaker 4: means so much to us as a people, but not

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Speaker 4: just to us as a people, to the country. HBCUs

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Speaker 4: comprised three percent of all universities and colleges, but enroll

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Speaker 4: ten percent of all black students and account for eighty

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Speaker 4: percent of black judges, twenty five percent of black science professionals,

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Speaker 4: seventy percent of dentists and physicians, and forty percent Angelo

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Speaker 4: will appreciate this, forty percent of members of Congress, and twenty.

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Speaker 3: Percent of all black college graduates.

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Speaker 4: And the economic impact of all of this is over

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Speaker 4: fifteen billion dollars to the US economy. HBCUs are the

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Speaker 4: primary drivers lifting Black people out of poverty into the

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Speaker 4: middle class. According to some reporting by The Washington Post,

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Speaker 4: the funding gap per student went from four hundred dollars

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Speaker 4: per student to foum jobs per student at HBCU sixteen

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars per student at a PWI, and that was

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Speaker 4: just between twenty three and twenty fifteen, those numbers have

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Speaker 4: since expanded.

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Speaker 3: To Angela's point that she was given this was.

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Speaker 4: A policy that was enacted by the Republican controlled state legislature,

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Speaker 4: which Angela pointed out signed into law by the Republican governor.

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Speaker 4: These are all elected positions. Tennessee has a high population

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Speaker 4: of black folks. The down ballot races matter. HBCUs matter.

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Speaker 4: The letter that Angela referenced, it wasn't just the two

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Speaker 4: point one billion oh to Tennessee State, it was the

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Speaker 4: twelve billion OD to all those HBCUs housed in the

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Speaker 4: Unintended, no states should trump the right of your right

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Speaker 11: Hey, my name is Aris and I'm from California and

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Speaker 1: Project twenty five.

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Speaker 12: What is Project twenty twenty five? It is everyone here,

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Speaker 12: Heritage got on the book on the marker as an

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Speaker 12: it's a Conservative movement thing. What we're doing is systematically

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Speaker 12: preparing to march into office and bring a new army

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Speaker 12: of aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do

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Speaker 12: battle against the deep state.

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Speaker 1: That was Paul Dan's from Project twenty twenty five telling

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Speaker 1: us the truth about what this really is the one

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Speaker 1: thing I want to flag for y'all. On the outset

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Speaker 1: is Peter Navarro, who is credited with being the master

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Speaker 1: architect of Project twenty twenty five, was just sentenced to

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Speaker 1: serve time in federal prison two weeks ago for refusing

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Speaker 1: to comply with the congressional subpoena about his role in

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Speaker 1: the insurrection. And alas, here we are with the insurrectionist Blueprint,

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Speaker 1: also known as twenty Project twenty twenty five. All nine

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Speaker 1: hundred plus pages of it have been shared with you,

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Speaker 1: Tiff and Andrew. I did not go through every single page,

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Speaker 1: but I went through enough. And here's the thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me. Woke progressivism, woke culture warriors, woke bureaucrats,

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Speaker 1: woke extremism, woke propaganda, woke agenda, wokeism, woke dominated system

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Speaker 1: of public schools and university, woke revolutionaries whoa radicals, supposedly

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Speaker 1: woke faction, woke policies in corporate America, woke gender ideology,

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Speaker 1: and even the Department of Education got some strays with

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Speaker 1: as a convenient one stop shop for.

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Speaker 2: The woke education cartel. Do you notice the trend?

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Speaker 13: I do?

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Speaker 3: Can? I?

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Speaker 2: Is this crazy?

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Speaker 4: I just can I just I want to discover a

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Speaker 4: little bit of background for the viewers. So this is

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Speaker 4: the birth child of the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation

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Speaker 4: is a very conservative think tank that came out under

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Speaker 4: President Nixon, so that should tell you something. But they

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Speaker 4: really started gaining traction of power under President Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 4: The Project twenty five A lot of organizations, a lot

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Speaker 4: of groups, a lot of constituencies have policy agendas. So

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Speaker 4: policy or Project twenty five is kind of like that,

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Speaker 4: but extremely more dangerous. And I'll tell you why. It's

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Speaker 4: a board of more than eighty conservative organizations all's one

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Speaker 4: hundred Now Project is one hundred, one hundred organizations, all

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Speaker 4: linked in this whole cesspool of policies to dark money,

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Speaker 4: including Leonard Leo, who was very influential in shaping the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court of the United States under Donald Trump, very

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Speaker 4: attached to him. It does not respect the separation of

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Speaker 4: church and state, and it is literally trying to reimagine

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Speaker 4: the executive brands of government. You heard him say weaponized conservatives.

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Speaker 4: They've put millions of dollars in their political arm Heritage

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Speaker 4: for America. The interesting thing about this Angela U and

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Speaker 4: Andrew you both probably know this. Heritage Foundation used to

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Speaker 4: be led by a black woman, k Cole James, who

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Speaker 4: is a Hampton University graduate and sister girl was definitely

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Speaker 4: parroting all the talking points, all the ridiculous statements coming

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Speaker 4: out of Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 2: They're not new.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these policies aren't even new, they're just

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Speaker 4: repackaged and put out there. The reason why we should

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Speaker 4: take this seriously, because like I said, a lot of

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Speaker 4: groups will put out these policy agendas is because they

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Speaker 4: have all aligned. And so Andrew makes this point. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to steal your point, Andrew, but Andrew makes

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Speaker 4: the point all the time that we talk about Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump and the Republican Party as though they're separate things,

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Speaker 4: and they have now merged. The Republican Party is now

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Speaker 4: run by right wing zealots and MAGA extremists. These are

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Speaker 4: the people they are beholden to. And so the whole

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Speaker 4: list that Angela just ran down. Should Republicans take the

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Speaker 4: presidency and potentially the House and potentially the Senates, they

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Speaker 4: will be able to rough house and ramshot all of

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Speaker 4: these policies through at the federal level, which is their agenda.

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Speaker 4: And Angelo go through all of it. I have more

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Speaker 4: questions than I do answers, but I want to punctuate

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Speaker 4: how dangerous Project twenty twenty five is. It's not the

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Speaker 4: first time we've seen it, and hopefully it will be

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Speaker 4: the last time we talk about it.

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Speaker 3: But I have my doubts.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew, uh huh.

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Speaker 5: You know, I Agreechiff, the dangers here can't be underscore.

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Speaker 5: So all of us know the name Koch Brothers. We say,

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Speaker 5: it is talked about all the time, very wealthy Koch

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Speaker 5: brother Industries, Da Da Da Da Da. Well, before there

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Speaker 5: were the Koch Brothers, there was Richard Mellon's. He is

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Speaker 5: the person responsible for founding the Heritage Foundation and setting

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Speaker 5: up the initial cadre of conservative organizations that didn't exist

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Speaker 5: then but were created in the mid nineteen seventies after

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Speaker 5: Republicans felt frankly annihilated after Nixon's stepping down from the

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Speaker 5: White House. At that time, liberals frankly actually had organization.

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Speaker 5: They had funded media outlets, they had funded think tanks,

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Speaker 5: their ideas had gotten traction. They had just passed the

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Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act. We were thriving in many ways, and

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Speaker 5: at that point, rich white men as represented by scathe,

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Speaker 5: Melonscafe Mills, Cokes, all those folks. They were top five

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Speaker 5: cores as we know the cores be a corps family.

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Speaker 5: The top five Sservative donors got together and put tens

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Speaker 5: of millions, now hundreds of millions of dollars into building

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Speaker 5: what we now know today as the new Conservative movie.

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Speaker 3: They were aided by white women under school to add.

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Speaker 5: That, no doubt about it, but certainly this was these

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Speaker 5: were white men and billions of money either inherited or

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Speaker 5: manipulated through the system, and they put their money back

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Speaker 5: in protecting their hides. Now this is this is where

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Speaker 5: I found the danger of Tiff and Angela. It is

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Speaker 5: that these folks. Before it was about getting Republicans elected

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Speaker 5: right and governing through the elected process. Now it is

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Speaker 5: about the tens of I don't know hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 5: of federal workers who will now be replaced as public servants,

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Speaker 5: which means these are these are individuals who serve regardless

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Speaker 5: of whether there's a democratic or Republican administration. Where these

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Speaker 5: folks kept getting caught up were because they wanted to

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Speaker 5: achieve one goal. But career service people, professionals who work

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Speaker 5: in the Department of Agriculture and Energy and education will say, oh,

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, mister secretary, you can't do that, because

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Speaker 5: that's against the law per section such and such and

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Speaker 5: such and such and such. Well, they don't want people

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Speaker 5: checking them like that. They want loyalists who are willing

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Speaker 5: to do whatever the executive says. These people envisioned something

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Speaker 5: that is known as the unitary executive, and what that

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Speaker 5: means is not just. They don't believe in a separation

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Speaker 5: of powers. They don't believe in a separation of states,

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Speaker 5: separation of governance, meaning the judiciary the executive in the legislative.

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Speaker 5: They believe that the president, when elected president, has allsought

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Speaker 5: the power. I have news for those folks. We got

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Speaker 5: rid of that when we were founded. The American Revolution

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Speaker 5: was about throwing off the yoke of the unitary executive

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Speaker 5: the king. We don't elect kings in the United States

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Speaker 5: of America. So if anybody ever gets deluded that these

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Speaker 5: folks are actually championing democracy, that these folks actually believe

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Speaker 5: in standing up, protecting, conserving the constitution, or that their

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Speaker 5: strict construction is we hear that term a lot of

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Speaker 5: times referred to Republicans or conservatives that's not what it

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Speaker 5: is at all. They only believe that to this end

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Speaker 5: that their agenda wins. When their agenda doesn't win, they

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Speaker 5: don't believe in the judiciary, they don't believe in the legislative,

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Speaker 5: and if the president is the problem, they don't believe

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Speaker 5: in the executive at that time. There are no commitments

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Speaker 5: to beliefs, as we've all heard in politics, no permanent friends,

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Speaker 5: no permanent enemies, only permanent interest So their interests and

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Speaker 5: their beliefs and their philosophy is all about winning for them,

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Speaker 5: and the moment that they're not winning or their philosophy

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Speaker 5: can be offended at any moment, and that's where we

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Speaker 5: are right now.

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Speaker 2: That's I think the thing. So we talked about the

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Speaker 2: Koch brothers.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the one hundred plus organizations who've signed

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Speaker 1: on to this cotion to participate in dismantling the federal

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Speaker 1: government department by department, agency by agency, appointee by appointee

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Speaker 1: and burrowed in employees.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but they would burrow in, which is also not new.

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Speaker 1: They talked about it being an issue long before even

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama was president, and people burrowed in they would

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Speaker 1: be political and they just found the safest career job

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Speaker 1: and they stay there. They've been talking about doing that,

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Speaker 1: and now I think now it's on a larger scale.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing that's very fascinating to me,

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Speaker 1: I just want to acknowledge that I envy their ability

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Speaker 1: to unite around some common goals. I am jealous of it.

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Speaker 1: I am frustrated by the fact that we don't have

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Speaker 1: something like this, we meaning Black folks, that represent our interests,

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Speaker 1: because when we do. I talk about it all the time,

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Speaker 1: the Black Agenda that was put forth by the Black

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Speaker 1: to the Future Action Fund, by our dear sister Alicia Garza.

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Speaker 1: It is like pulling teeth to get Black folks to

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Speaker 1: support something that benefits our best interests. They want to

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Speaker 1: know who wrote it, why they wrote it, When did

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Speaker 1: they write it, Who's in charge?

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Speaker 2: Was it a man.

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Speaker 1: If it's not a man, I can't get behind it.

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Speaker 1: If it was a woman, is a woman that I like?

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Speaker 1: All of that is so frustrating to me, and I

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Speaker 1: get so upset when we can't set aside a thing

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Speaker 1: to focus on the main thing. And they've done this

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Speaker 1: here and they've been doing it for many years. Here's

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Speaker 1: one place where I will say that they have a

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Speaker 1: big benefit. Speaking of DEI and dollars, they didn't earn.

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Speaker 1: They put the dollars they didn't earn towards something that

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Speaker 1: benefits them in a very towards a common.

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Speaker 2: Goal twenty two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I bet, I'm just thinking we probably could get

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Speaker 1: on the same page, and we probably could move the

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Speaker 1: needle a little bit further down the road if we

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Speaker 1: had the same resources they have to expend on these things,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Americans for Prosperity, or the American Legislative Exchange Council,

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Speaker 1: or the Heritage Foundation or now twenty twenty five, all

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Speaker 1: of which have benefited from the infrastructure that they've been establishing.

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Speaker 2: Frankly since sixteen nineteen. How about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, there may be a point of disagreement here because

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Speaker 4: I so I think the Republican Party they're easier to

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Speaker 4: coalesce because they have one common goal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, racism is at the root of everything they want.

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to compare black folks to them

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Speaker 4: like our I think our fractured interest is because we're

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Speaker 4: not a homogenous group of people. We have different interests,

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Speaker 4: we have different goals. I think that's the beauty of

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Speaker 4: us as a people. And I often hear people credit

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Speaker 4: the Republicans with like, oh, but they have such a

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Speaker 4: simple message or they're better at communicating. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if that's true. I think their audience is a little

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Speaker 4: more simple and wilfully ignorant to a lot of things

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Speaker 4: around policy. I think on the left and look, listen,

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Speaker 4: ignorance extends to no matter what political party, no matter

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Speaker 4: what kills our economic background. Yeah, exactly, it's not partisan. However,

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Speaker 4: I think on the right side you have people who

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Speaker 4: are just pretty much flatlined. They're an easier group to coalesce.

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Speaker 4: On the left, you have people who I would argue

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Speaker 4: are a bit more curious about things, are not so

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Speaker 4: easily manipulated, and is a much bigger tent of people,

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Speaker 4: and so we all represent our interest passionately. On the right,

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Speaker 4: you you know, have something that's very complicated, like the

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Speaker 4: Affordable Care Act, and you could throw out something like

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Speaker 4: death panels and people will latch onto it. On the left,

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Speaker 4: it's a little more intellectual. People have questions about that,

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Speaker 4: and certainly when it comes to black folks, I think

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Speaker 4: we because we have been so out of the process

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Speaker 4: for so long. We have been denied for so long

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Speaker 4: that now that we're in this process, I think we've

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Speaker 4: done an amazing job of working together and being a

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Speaker 4: tight community and supporting each other and fighting for a

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Speaker 4: lot of our rights in a much more wholesome and

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Speaker 4: holistic way than the Republican Party, whose entire agenda is

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Speaker 4: based on hate and hating other people who they think

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Speaker 4: is taking something from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that their their agenda.

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Speaker 1: If I could andrew just really quick, their agenda is

658
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Speaker 1: more simple. But I think it's intellectually dishonest too for

659
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Speaker 1: us to say everyone who votes conservative is dumb.

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Speaker 2: I agree, you know, like I think that we have

661
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Speaker 2: to be careful with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm also saying that they're the the organization behind and

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Speaker 1: the operation behind what they've done is actually massive and

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly intricate, even if the messaging is simple, I

665
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Speaker 1: think that it would be really uh, it's not smart

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Speaker 1: for us to say that it's not very complex.

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Speaker 2: They have five oh one C three C fours pass.

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Speaker 1: They have again an American Legislative Exchange Council, which is

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Speaker 1: boilerplate legislation for people in all fifty states, to send

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Speaker 1: in and to ensure that it all gets past. That's

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Speaker 1: what all this anti DEI legislation is now in thirty

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Speaker 1: plus states.

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Speaker 2: So it is incredibly complex and it we could argue.

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Speaker 1: That many of them are focused just on the racism

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Speaker 1: of it all, but it started under the guise of

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Speaker 1: fiscal conservativism. Even when you look at their four pillars

677
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Speaker 1: that they're all saying that they had to agree on,

678
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Speaker 1: they're still really broad and honestly, Joe Biden's border policy

679
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Speaker 1: fits in with number three.

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Speaker 2: I'll read it. It says, restore the family. This is

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Speaker 2: number one.

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Speaker 1: Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life, and

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Speaker 1: protect our children. We know what that really means to

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Speaker 1: somebody else. Maybe it means something exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: Number two, dismantle the administrative state and return self governance

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Speaker 1: to the American people.

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Speaker 2: Expect for what is Yovagina.

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Speaker 1: Number three defend our nation's sovereignty, borders and bounty against

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Speaker 1: global threats. Sounds like it might not be a bad

690
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Speaker 1: idea if you don't read between the lines. And four

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Speaker 1: secure our God given individual rights to live. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to live freely, I said to lie to life freely

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Speaker 1: that too, to live freely what our Constitution calls the

694
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Speaker 1: blessing of liberty. So when you hear these things on

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Speaker 1: their face, they don't sound bad. But when you get

696
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Speaker 1: into the nine hundred plus pages and they want to

697
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Speaker 1: dismantle the Department of Justice and they want to ensure

698
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Speaker 1: that a president can manipulate what's happening in the FBI

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Speaker 1: and DOJ to target political opponents, that reads a little differently.

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Speaker 2: So I just I think that there's something smart here.

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Speaker 5: I there is something smart. But guess what they got

702
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Speaker 5: it from us. Before there was ever an American Legislative

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Speaker 5: Exchange Council, there was something known as the Center for

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Speaker 5: Policy Alternatives. This was a national coalition of progressively aligned

705
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Speaker 5: legislators across all fifty states of the United States, and

706
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Speaker 5: they came together, produced the Policy Manual every year, and

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Speaker 5: then progressive legislators in the states to take those policies

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Speaker 5: and then work toward implementation. Know that that pre existed,

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Speaker 5: what the right existed. A lot of people know me

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Speaker 5: as a candidate, but before as a candidate and while

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Speaker 5: I was running for office and serving an office, I

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Speaker 5: was part of yielding progressive pipelining. In my case, it

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Speaker 5: was candidate development recruitment, and then after that it was

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Speaker 5: gathering those same people that we saw and helped get

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Speaker 5: elected to make sure that they were then pushing the

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Speaker 5: policies that would advance our goals. Tiffany, I agree with

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Speaker 5: you from the standpoint that there's some is so much

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Speaker 5: easier to organize people who are all similarly interested in

719
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Speaker 5: the same thing, and that same thing we can all

720
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Speaker 5: differ about. But I think that same thing is about

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Speaker 5: We've had power for a very long time. There are

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Speaker 5: threats to our access to that power. We exist to

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Speaker 5: maintain our power. The Koch brothers are not gratuitous. The

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Speaker 5: reason why they helped build a conservative pipeline on the

725
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Speaker 5: right is because they are the largest polluting industries. The

726
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Speaker 5: coke industries and the subsidiaries that they own are among

727
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Speaker 5: the largest polluters in the country. So it would make

728
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Speaker 5: all the sense in the world to see them elect

729
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Speaker 5: conservative who are anti EPA, who are judges who say,

730
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Speaker 5: oh no, we're not going to be the big enforcement state.

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Speaker 5: We are going to be the little, small government state

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Speaker 5: where these issues are handled discreetly and not with a

733
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Speaker 5: big hammer like the EPA. They were acting in their interests.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this, I think the left has fallen off

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Speaker 5: on girding up our institutions that then advance our ideas.

736
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Speaker 5: These but with the right has taught us is that

737
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Speaker 5: they are willing to go all the way in and

738
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Speaker 5: constitution be damned and courts be damned, it doesn't matter.

739
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Speaker 5: We're willing to go all the way in to conserve

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Speaker 5: our power. The reason why the Left, I think, is

741
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Speaker 5: a harder group to organize and coalesce around a single

742
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Speaker 5: idea is because largely we're motivated by what our need is,

743
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Speaker 5: just as the right is. Their need is to maintain

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Speaker 5: the power that they've always had for us. Our need

745
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Speaker 5: might be food on the table, gas in the tank, women,

746
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Speaker 5: protections at the workplace, and all so with autonomy on

747
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Speaker 5: their bodies. Black people's ability to go to schools are

748
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Speaker 5: then our ability to maintain those same institutions. When those

749
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Speaker 5: institutions start producing black folks who then end up becoming

750
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Speaker 5: successful parts of boards, elected officials, potentially presidents of the

751
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Speaker 5: United States, and then they challenge our power. So what

752
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: do we do? We go and delegitimize their institutions so

753
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Speaker 5: that they can't continue to produce the folks who are

754
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Speaker 5: going to threaten our power. The right is the right

755
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 5: is they're no more brilliant than we are. We did

756
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Speaker 5: this first, they learned from us, and then we fell

757
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Speaker 5: off the bus because our needs, as basically as they

758
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Speaker 5: may be, became more divergent with the diversity of people

759
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Speaker 5: in our coalition and the needs that each of us

760
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Speaker 5: have had. And so we've got to get back to

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Speaker 5: the basic yaw. And even if we were dealing with

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Speaker 5: your point here, Angela, which is just amongst black folks,

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Speaker 5: how do we do this? My suggestion would be one

764
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Speaker 5: we need to get a political operation in order that

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Speaker 5: trains the candidates we want to see then can get

766
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Speaker 5: those folks successfully elected. Right, So there's a whole political

767
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Speaker 5: arm to this thing we have that.

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Speaker 2: We don't support it.

769
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Speaker 5: See a lot of yes we do.

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Speaker 1: We have the CBC Institute, let me tell you collective

771
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Speaker 1: doing that. We have the Joint Center, which almost went

772
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Speaker 1: completely under because we don't support the things that we have.

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Speaker 5: This is what I'm talking about, Angela. That that that

774
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Speaker 5: is the point to be had here, which is from

775
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: a resource standpoint, the left has money.

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Speaker 2: Not talking about the left, you got money plenty.

777
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Speaker 5: Every no but but This is why it's but but.

778
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 8: But.

779
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Speaker 5: The left doesn't exist without the Blacks. In fact, the

780
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 5: left doesn't exist at all and could never exist without us.

781
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Speaker 5: And so if you are interested in advancing the left's agenda,

782
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Speaker 5: then your interests must coincide with building an electoral operation that,

783
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Speaker 5: by the way, doesn't just train, doesn't just elect, but

784
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: has a hammer at the end of the day, which

785
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: means if you don't do what you committed to doing,

786
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: if you get in there and then you get sold

787
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Speaker 5: out to the power interests that you were elected to dismantle,

788
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 5: we are taking you out, all right, We're taking you

789
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: So our enforcement mechanism has to exist on a level

790
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Speaker 5: that's bigger than the fact that we share the same

791
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Speaker 5: skin tone. That, ain't it. We can be that right.

792
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Speaker 5: You just gave examples of the Hampton woman who used

793
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Speaker 5: to be you know, over heritage. They got them everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I would venture to argue that the people who are

795
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Speaker 5: being appointed to the board of trustees at Tennessee State University,

796
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Speaker 5: who all may look like us, have a different interest

797
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: in mind. They didn't get a pointer on the same

798
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Speaker 5: that they that the others got booted out for no reason.

799
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Speaker 5: All right, So we got to be suspicious about those intentions.

800
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Speaker 5: But we have the power to build those same structures

801
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Speaker 5: on our side and maintain them on our side. We

802
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Speaker 5: just have to decide that that's what we're in the

803
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Speaker 5: interest of doing. And instead, I think we all get

804
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 5: freaked out by election cycle to election cycle, we have

805
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 5: this big old threat of democracy diminishing over our heads,

806
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: and we compromised our way out of what we want

807
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Speaker 5: and sake of what we know, and sake of what

808
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Speaker 5: we have available at this current h.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to say I agree with everything

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Speaker 4: you said, Andrew, and I just think it's tragic that

811
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Speaker 4: you are not on like every campaign ought to be

812
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Speaker 4: calling you, every consultant group ought to be calling you,

813
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Speaker 4: because this is the work that you've done, and you

814
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Speaker 4: just informed me. I mean mine was much more anecdotal,

815
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Speaker 4: and then they get all their shit from us. The

816
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: way that black folks have organized in this country has

817
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Speaker 4: cast a wide net of influence across the globe, so

818
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: even their language comes from us. They didn't know what

819
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Speaker 4: woke was ten years ago. They literally cut in paste

820
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Speaker 4: and none of this stuff is new. We've already had

821
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Speaker 4: to make America great again.

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Speaker 3: Candidate.

823
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Speaker 4: That was Ronald Reagan, that was his whole slogan. We

824
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Speaker 4: already saw all these policies come out as a Nixon error,

825
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Speaker 4: and that's why I think it's so important to say

826
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Speaker 4: they were aided by white women because Phyllis Slapley let

827
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Speaker 4: a whole army of folks trying and even physical conservative

828
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Speaker 4: movements Angela are rooted in racism. So I think we

829
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Speaker 4: all agree the same, but I think we all have

830
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Speaker 4: different approaches. I think this could be a mini pod personally,

831
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Speaker 4: but I think we all have different approaches. It needs

832
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Speaker 4: to be come to how to get there, But I

833
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: know we got to move on and to I have

834
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Speaker 4: a question for you because so, okay, we see this

835
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Speaker 4: policy that the Heritage Foundation has putting out Project twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. Let's say, worst case scenario, Donald Trump is

837
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Speaker 4: elected and the Republicans have one of the chambers of Congress,

838
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Speaker 4: the upper Chamber and the senator lower chamber in the House,

839
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Speaker 4: how likely is it that this policy will start to

840
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Speaker 4: take shape? How likely will they be able to reimagine

841
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Speaker 4: the executive branch of government because they can't do much

842
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Speaker 4: without congressional approval.

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Speaker 2: Well, first and.

844
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Speaker 1: Foremo host Project twenty twenty five is already well underway, Like,

845
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Speaker 1: this isn't something that they're waiting for Donald Trump to

846
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Speaker 1: be elected for.

847
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Speaker 2: The point where they would have to wait for his election.

848
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Speaker 1: Is around who gets into these schedule f jobs, federal

849
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Speaker 1: government jobs that aren't appointed. The part that they would

850
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Speaker 1: need to wait for, who is appointed as those cabinet secretaries,

851
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Speaker 1: other federal appointments that are not Senate confirmed. If they

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Speaker 1: have you said, he has a chamber, if he has

853
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Speaker 1: the Senate, he can confirm his full slate of judges,

854
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Speaker 1: his full slate of everybody that is senior enough in

855
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Speaker 1: the administration that needs a Senate confirmed appointment. So there's

856
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Speaker 1: a lot that they can do. He can do a

857
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Speaker 1: lot with the executive order. If Donald Trump is elected again,

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Speaker 1: he will dare the Supreme Court to challenge anything that

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Speaker 1: he tries to get through via executive order. And I

860
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Speaker 1: think it will be including things that should be reserved

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Speaker 1: for legislation.

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Speaker 2: So I yeah, like at this point, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I agreed, Angela, and I would just say this, Remember

864
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Speaker 5: we used to we would we heckled Mitt Romney about

865
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Speaker 5: the binders full of women. That's when they say it's

866
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Speaker 5: talking about candidate's heaps. This is the binder full of conservatives.

867
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Speaker 5: What they are building are the resumes of individuals that

868
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Speaker 5: they want to go in. And Angela talked about the

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Speaker 5: appointment level. But what makes this even more dangerous is

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Speaker 5: that they're talking about this at the careers. They're saying,

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Speaker 5: we want you in the fuck. Fuck the appointments. Excuse me, lord,

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Speaker 5: please forgive me, y'all, forget the appointments. This is about

873
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Speaker 5: We're going to go into these departments and staff up

874
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: with conservatives who will effectuate our agenda regardless of who

875
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: the president is. And if the president is the president

876
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 5: of our choosing at this time, then you act in

877
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 5: their interest. If they're not, then you act in our interest,

878
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: and you be a stop gap to whatever progressives may

879
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 5: want to do, because now you're part of the wheel

880
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: that keeps this machine running, and that that we have

881
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 5: to all be terrified. Well we all want.

882
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: This is my last thing on this. I just want

883
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: to point out to Tip's point on page four of

884
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: the nine hundred page document. In the forward, it says,

885
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: today the American family is in crisis. Forty percent of

886
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: all children are born to unmarried mothers, including more than

887
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: seventy percent of black children.

888
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: They go on to talk.

889
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: About pornography must be outlawed illicit drug. Their product is

890
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: as addictive as idiolicit drug and as psychologically destructive as

891
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: any crime.

892
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's I just think that.

893
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: The trip on this pornography. When the Republican Convention was

894
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: held in Florida down to Tampa a couple of years ago,

895
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 5: the hotels, the highest search rates they had were to

896
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: porn sites, and the and the strip of houses sol

897
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 5: record profits over the.

898
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl or I Am not confused about the hypocrisy.

899
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is if they can slide that twenty

900
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: two million over this way, we watch out because We've

901
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: always been able to do a lot with a little

902
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying we ain't got the same resources.

903
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: But what can I say?

904
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: My challenge is to is to the progressive white donors

905
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 5: who who want to be in alignment, stand up some

906
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 5: money and allow us to build the institutions that protect

907
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: us and move our issues more progressively forward.

908
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: If they're not afraid of DEI challenge it.

909
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: I just want to say the most important thing that

910
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 4: Angela said that I hope everybody takes note of Project

911
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five is already underway. The Civil War didn't

912
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: start with the first gunfire between the Union and the Confederacy.

913
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Battles don't start with the first knuckles thrown. Like the

914
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: battle is already happening. We are already in the thick

915
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 4: of it. So if we're all sitting around waiting for

916
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 4: the big bad boogey Man, the big bad boogey Man

917
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: is here.

918
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: I just want to say, for the record, y'all don't

919
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: even want to talk about this. Y'all thought you were

920
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna have nothing. I knew you was lying.

921
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, we got a lot, You got a lot. We

922
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: got warmer commercial break.

923
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: But we will be back and we're going to talk

924
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: about a new strippers Bill of Rights in Washington Stit.

925
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: Yes, strippers, I got something.

926
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Speaker 1: We just got done talking about Republicans pornography in strippers.

927
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: And here we are now talking about a Democratic Governor

928
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: Ja Nsley signing the Stripper's Bill of Rights into law

929
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: in Washington State, which he did on March twenty sixth.

930
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Speaker 1: The bill was sponsored by state Senator Rebecca Saldana.

931
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Speaker 2: And we have a clip.

932
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 5: It's pretty simple. While we're passing this bill, These are

933
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: working folks, and working people deserve safety in the environment

934
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 5: in which they work.

935
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Speaker 7: Knew it for.

936
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 13: Governor Jay Ensley has signed a bill into law that

937
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 13: will improve safety at strip clubs in Washington. He was

938
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 13: surrounded by the bill supporters this afternoon. Senate Bill sixty

939
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 13: one oh five is the so called Stripper's Bill of Rights.

940
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 13: One of the major changes that bill implements is to

941
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 13: remove the Lewd Conduct Code in Seattle, which could pave

942
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 13: the way for strip clubs to serve alcohol. That bill

943
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 13: also means places like Supernova in Seattle will have to

944
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 13: cap fees that clubs can charge dancers, install panic buttons,

945
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 13: and ensure security staffing requirements.

946
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: I love this, sorry angel' go ahead.

947
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: No go go for a tip?

948
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 6: You love this?

949
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 5: What you love?

950
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: I love this because these strippers do not There's no

951
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 4: four one K that comes with strippers. They don't get benefits.

952
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: These are women who are and I know there are

953
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 4: male strippers, but predominantly women drive revenue.

954
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: At the strip club.

955
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: They have to tip out to everybody from the bartender

956
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 4: to the DJ. Their money is taxed uh not only

957
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: by their fellow co workers, but also by the government.

958
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: People think strippers don't pay taxes, Yes they do. Something

959
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: similar happened in Los Angeles. Strippers United organized there and I,

960
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: you know, grew up in Atlanta Andrew in Florida. Like

961
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: the strip club industry is big, it's massive. I've been

962
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: to strip clubs a few times. I don't want to

963
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 4: speak for anybody else on PA, but I've only been

964
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: to strip clubs a few times. And in talking to

965
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: these women, I did a documentary on strippers. When I

966
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: was at BT, I followed around Buffy the Body. I

967
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 4: followed around Buffy the Body, but everybody forgure.

968
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, body, Buffy and body. Because a lot of.

969
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: Strippers at that time ended up on video sets and

970
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: so I got to spend time with them. And I

971
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: remember sitting one woman down, and you know, we had

972
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: our cameras. I kept trying to make the dancers comfortable

973
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 4: and one of the women started crying and I told

974
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: them to stop filming. And I asked her, hey, like,

975
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: I'm a friend. We're here just to tell your story,

976
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: and she said, I don't want my grandmother to see this.

977
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: And it just reminds you of the humanity. And in

978
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: talking to strippers, they said, when you think about how

979
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: they're treated because they have no you know, protection once

980
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: they leave these clubs. And they said the people who

981
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: treat them the worst are other women, that other women

982
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 4: scrunt up their noses, they talk about them, they are

983
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: disrespectful to them, which made my heartbreak. And so anytime

984
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 4: I've gone to a strip club, I always I tip.

985
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm nice to the women. I you know, these are mothers,

986
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 4: a lot of them. They're going through a lot, and

987
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: a lot of these state laws make it hard for

988
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: the strippers because they have rules in place for companies

989
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: to treat employees like contractors. They're not full time employees

990
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: where they have benefits. So I am supportive of all strippers.

991
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: You drive the.

992
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: Revenue, You are the stars, and honestly, some of the

993
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: talent that's they're athletes. Like some of the things they

994
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: do with their bodies. It's like a naked cirquday sleet.

995
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: They are impressive. They deserve our respect and they deserve rights,

996
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: just like everybody else who goes to work.

997
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: Every day.

998
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 5: You're here, you you you hit on a uh tiff.

999
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 5: It's a big industry in Florida. It's bigger, and I

1000
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 5: can hear the moral voices of folks right now in

1001
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 5: my ear around this is you know, this is not

1002
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 5: christ like others. Listen, if the government allows these to exist,

1003
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 5: and they exist in your cities and te and states

1004
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 5: and that kind of thing. If it is going to

1005
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 5: be an industry, then why are we allowing it to

1006
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: continue to be an industry of shame and abuse where

1007
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: people can be taking advantage advantage of and treat it

1008
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 5: worse than dogs when we allow it to be a

1009
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: sanctioned operating industry. If it's going to be sanctioned and operated,

1010
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 5: then then at least hold these owners to account that

1011
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: they've got to treat these folks like people, like humans,

1012
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: like employees, like folks who are deserving of integrity in

1013
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 5: the workplace. So you're not going to hear judgment pass

1014
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: by me on any of it. I'm in full support

1015
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: of if it's going to be an industry, If the

1016
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: sex industry is going to be an industry, then don't

1017
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 5: let it be in the shadows of places where the

1018
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 5: CEOs and the lawyers and the doctors and bankers and

1019
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: all these folks get to go at the end of

1020
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: the night or the beginning of the morning, get you know,

1021
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 5: rocks off, and then it's all you're leaving these folks

1022
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 5: holding the bag literally and also all the consequences and

1023
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 5: dangers that come with it. Protect these folks in the

1024
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: workplace period. If it ain't a workplace, then don't let

1025
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 5: it network.

1026
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Thank Andrews.

1027
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: Some of the things that the bill includes are limits

1028
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: of charges. It limits the charges establishments can impose on dancers,

1029
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: mandates club employee training on sexual harassment prevention, human trafficking, identification,

1030
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: conflict de escalation in first aid, the exact kind of

1031
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: protections you all have been talking about. So with that,

1032
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: shout out to Washington State for leading the way. We'll

1033
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: see what else goes down in this in this space,

1034
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: all right, And now we have a listener question.

1035
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 14: I'm DONALDA. McCarthy. I'm a public school teacher in Florida.

1036
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 14: How can we have better access to the decision makers

1037
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 14: for road repairs and commercial zoning so that those who

1038
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 14: want to be business owners in better locations can know

1039
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 14: to get in at.

1040
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: The ground level, literal ground level.

1041
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 14: How can we have better access to decision makers?

1042
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: Nice Mayor Gillum, this soundlight one for you.

1043
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, this is straight up municipal I will first

1044
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: of all, thank you for the question, and also thank

1045
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: you for the work that you do educating our next generation.

1046
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: Big sweet spot for me teachers and educators answer the

1047
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: question of getting better access to decision makers when it

1048
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: comes to public infrastructure in the future of where businesses

1049
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: are located, street scape, slow, and so forth. Almost every

1050
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: community I know of it, at least in the state

1051
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 5: of Florida, has public works departments and a public works director.

1052
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 5: These are the folks who largely work in the bellows

1053
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: of the government. They're not the folks you see on

1054
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 5: the television or the local access TV at the city

1055
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 5: council and county council meetings. These folks work in the

1056
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: government building and so that means any citizen by and

1057
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 5: large is able to go make an appointment, sit down with,

1058
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: share your ideas, raise concerns with. You know, we were

1059
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: talking on another subject about careerists. These are the careersts.

1060
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 5: These are the people who spend their life's work understanding

1061
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 5: the rules and how to make a city function. And

1062
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: I would strongly recommend a lot of people I learned

1063
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 5: when I was in municipal government just you know, they

1064
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 5: had concerns and questions they just didn't know the way.

1065
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: They didn't know who to go to. They thought they

1066
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 5: had to meet with the mayor, or the city council

1067
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 5: or the city manager in order to advance that idea.

1068
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 5: And the truth is you can meet with those people.

1069
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 5: It may take you a little longer to get there.

1070
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 5: But with these other career service employees, it's their life

1071
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 5: and they it would be their pleasure. I think I

1072
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: could say it with the fullness of my heart, it

1073
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: would be their pleasure to sit down with people who

1074
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: live in those communities, hear from you about what you

1075
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 5: want to have changed, and then go to work on

1076
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 5: your behalf and be very responsible to you all the

1077
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 5: way through the process. So thanks again for the question.

1078
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: And I think there's a really simple answer to it,

1079
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 5: which is to go see some of these folks, your

1080
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 5: public works directors, your facilities management folks, the folks who

1081
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: sit in your small business development offices, sit down with

1082
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: them and let them hear your concerns. I think you'd

1083
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 5: be surprised how response did they'd be.

1084
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew.

1085
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: Okay, and now it's time for our calls to action TIF.

1086
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you me.

1087
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I have a simple called action.

1088
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: I would like to ask our listeners and viewers to

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Speaker 4: help amplify native Land because we talked a bit on

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Speaker 4: this show around the new rules on Instagram, and we

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Speaker 4: post a lot of our content there and I don't

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Speaker 4: know what's going on, but it's like, if you ever

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Speaker 4: said anything political, it feels like a shadow band. It

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Speaker 4: feels like a lot of our content is getting hidden.

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Speaker 4: And so if you don't a lot of times with

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Speaker 4: reels like you would see it in your feed any

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Speaker 4: kind of way. And now with the new rules around

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Speaker 4: political content, it's been harder to get in people's feed.

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Speaker 4: So I would ask you drop our content in your

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Speaker 4: group chat. Make sure you follow all of us on

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Speaker 4: social media, then drop our content in your group chat,

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Speaker 4: share it, post it, clip it, reshare it, rate, review, share, comment, YouTube,

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Speaker 4: Apple podcasts, iHeart podcast all the things because that is

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Speaker 4: a huge help to us. And please, like we always say,

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Speaker 4: it's a conversation, It is not three of us talking

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Speaker 4: at you. We invite you into our political group chat.

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Speaker 4: Send us your comments, questions, make sure they're on video.

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Speaker 4: Make sure don't be sending us no dissertation less than

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Speaker 4: sixty seconds. But we would like to include you all

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Speaker 4: in the conversation, so just keep us in mind as

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Speaker 4: you're getting on those smartphones every day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tip Andrew, love.

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Speaker 5: It co Scientif. But also I spent the weekend. I

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Speaker 5: know everybody in this house is tired of hearing it,

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Speaker 5: but probably not listening to Cowboy Carter, and I just

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Speaker 5: just got to recommend that y'all take a listen if

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Speaker 5: you haven't already, I'm sure most or many of you have.

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Speaker 5: But what I love, love love about the artists known

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Speaker 5: as Beyonce is just the intentionality with every piece of

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Speaker 5: that than I love. Really there isn't There is not

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Speaker 5: a there's not a song, a spot on there that

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Speaker 5: I don't love. But Requiem, which I think is on

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Speaker 5: it is the first star on the album. In it

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Speaker 5: it raps it is not but it also raps the album.

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Speaker 5: And I probably love it the most because it reminds

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Speaker 5: me of another favorite song I have the don't laugh

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Speaker 5: at Me, y'all. The Battle Ham of the Republic is

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Speaker 5: actually one of my favorite songs, and it was written

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Speaker 5: by two abolitionists who were huge supporters of the Union

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Speaker 5: Army during the Civil War, and it just her manifesto

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Speaker 5: there her reclaiming her time if you will, if you're

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Speaker 5: maxing water is her resistance to being put in a

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Speaker 5: box and defined by a genre. It's just a breakout

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Speaker 5: for me, and it's what we do. We just change

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Speaker 5: the game and listen to it, vibe off of it,

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Speaker 5: but also try to pay a little close attention to

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Speaker 5: what the meanings are behind each one of these songs.

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Speaker 5: Is their intentional and I think it's just brilliant.

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Speaker 3: R part and learn our history in the Southwest.

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Speaker 1: Love it and for mine, I am going to be

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Speaker 1: on the campuses of some illustrious institutions. We started this

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Speaker 1: show talking about, I say so, historically black colleges and universities,

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly where we'll end it. Are we taking

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Speaker 1: my godsend fa on a college tour. I will be

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Speaker 1: at fam you at Morehouse in North Carolina, Central North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: A and T and Howard University next week, So pull

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Speaker 1: up if y'all can. I would love to see y'all

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Speaker 1: and definitely to convince this young man with the three

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Speaker 1: point seven cumulative GPA who loves computer science to get

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Speaker 1: in there. That's an open opportunity for you all to

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Speaker 1: give me him on the spot.

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Speaker 2: So there's that, Andrew, You're not biased. There's that.

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Speaker 5: Baby. We've got a great computer scientist department.

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Speaker 2: By the way, thank you, Andrew. Your time is over.

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Speaker 3: This podcast is too.

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Speaker 1: We thank you all for you, thank you all for

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Speaker 1: tuning in. Before we end the show, I do want

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Speaker 1: to remind everyone to leave us a review, subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Native lampod. As Tip said in our call to action,

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Speaker 1: we are available on all platforms and YouTube. New episode

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Speaker 1: drop every single Thursday. You can also follow us on

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Speaker 1: social media. We are Angela Rai, Andrew Gilliam, Tiffany Cross

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Speaker 1: and there are two hundred and fourteen days until the election.

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Speaker 5: Welcome home, y'all, Welcome home, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home.

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