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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the almost same this podcast.

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Speaker 2: It is Ashley holding it down today because Ben is

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Speaker 2: on vacation in Italy. And I'm excited because today my

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Speaker 2: guests came in. She came in fast and furious into paradise,

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Speaker 2: and she didn't stick around long enough. But what happened

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Speaker 2: since she's left has probably been more exciting than anything.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Ali Joe Hanks to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for being here. So basically, Paradise just

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Speaker 2: didn't really it didn't pan out for you. How many

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Speaker 2: days were you actually there? Like two? Did you fielm

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Speaker 2: for two days?

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Speaker 3: Literally?

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Speaker 4: Not even two full days? Actually it was like thirty

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Speaker 4: six hours.

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Speaker 2: I think that sucks. Was there anything with your relationship

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Speaker 2: with Dale that didn't make air that you wish did?

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Speaker 4: I think just like our conversations of things that we

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Speaker 4: had in common, and just like where we wanted to

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Speaker 4: see our futures. And I think they were a little

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Speaker 4: bit more like intimate conversations off the jump, which I

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Speaker 4: think is totally fine, especially for this scenario. But I

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Speaker 4: did you know, ask him about his relationship with Kat,

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Speaker 4: where his.

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Speaker 3: Head was at.

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Speaker 4: We were there only for a couple of days, right,

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Speaker 4: because I came in on like a Tuesday, and they

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Speaker 4: all started filming Saturday, So he was only there two

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Speaker 4: days before me. Because I think he had keeped me.

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Speaker 4: I was just very curious to how they got to

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Speaker 4: where they were so so quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did what did he say? How did they

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Speaker 2: get there?

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Speaker 4: He took her on the date with the boat and

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Speaker 4: or the catamaran, and I guess they had a lot

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Speaker 4: in common and they wanted similar.

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Speaker 3: Things in their futures.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was like, I feel like everyone still

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Speaker 4: wanted those things in their futures too, So I guess

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Speaker 4: it just happened pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Right when you were in that row ceremony, did you

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Speaker 2: think that there was hope for you getting a rose

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Speaker 2: or was it You're pretty certain that it was gonna

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Speaker 2: go to Cat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like I said, I laid all my

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Speaker 4: I thought he was interested me based on the conversations

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Speaker 4: we have. It was never like I'm only picking Cat.

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Speaker 4: He even said like, my head is somewhere, my heart

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Speaker 4: is somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I'm confused and this was before the road ceremony, so

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Speaker 3: there wasn't like enough clarity for me.

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Speaker 4: But like, deep down, I was like, I feel like

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Speaker 4: I am going home, but there could be a potential,

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Speaker 4: there could.

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Speaker 3: Be a light that I'm staying. But unfortunately I obviously

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Speaker 3: got sent home.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. But then you go home and

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Speaker 2: you what happens. What happens? So you and Sam are together.

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Speaker 2: This is Sam McKinny from Gen season. He was also

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Speaker 2: on Paradise for a short stint. You guys, you said

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Speaker 2: via DM with him because you wanted it to be

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Speaker 2: an authentic connection if you were to meet in Paradise,

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Speaker 2: but then it just you didn't cross paths there. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So you came home and what happens?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I came home, I got my phone back.

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Speaker 4: It was before like I was getting on the flay

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Speaker 4: and I had reached out to him VIADM and I

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Speaker 4: was like, I heard you were here just a couple

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Speaker 4: was disappointed. So I'd reached out to him and he

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Speaker 4: out to guys first. I don't think there's a problem

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Speaker 4: with that after a while, but like, definitely not initially.

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Speaker 4: Basically a different like setup, This is a different circumstance.

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Speaker 4: So I texted him and I was like, Hey, it's

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Speaker 4: Ali Joe, and he hopped on the phone with me.

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Speaker 4: He's like, we definitely have to plan something like let's

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Speaker 4: and time had passed, but we still stayed and touched

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Speaker 4: and we talked like every day, whether it was a

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Speaker 4: like the day before Mother's Day, so we stayed in contact,

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Speaker 4: and then he finally was like, I'm coming to Florida.

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Speaker 3: I'm booking a flight, and the rest was history.

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Speaker 2: I'm booking a flight to intentionally see you. Yes, very

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Speaker 2: nice So what's the status now? Are we official?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are official. We've been dating officially, you know,

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Speaker 4: a couple of times. I've been to South Carolina a

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Speaker 4: few times. We just booked a trip to Nashville in

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Speaker 4: October with my friends who are engaged, who he's met.

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Speaker 4: So he's gone along with like all my friends, which

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Speaker 4: is amazing, my family especially, that's like a huge thing.

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Speaker 3: Of importance for me.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, we are official, and we're making plans or

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Speaker 4: making trips and yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. This is kind of making me. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of reminiscent of Brandon and Christina. Yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 2: because Christina wasn't in Paradise, but Brandon was. And if

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Speaker 2: they had cast Christina of Paradise, then they would have

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Speaker 2: had another bachelor. They would have had another bachelor couple.

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Speaker 2: And now with you guys, I'm like, wow, another missed

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Speaker 2: couple that could have been on air. That's unfortunate for them.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that perhaps they should mix up the

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Speaker 2: situation where there's less people missing each other where, Like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Sam and I talk about that often because

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Speaker 4: I'm really happy that I had the opportunity to go

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Speaker 4: on Paradise. But and I've said this multiple times, like

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Speaker 4: a couple, So I really truly think that's a really

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Speaker 4: just like it's unfortunate that people weren't able to see

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Speaker 3: So I definitely think it's.

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Speaker 4: Something that America and like producers really missed the ball on,

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Speaker 4: especially because he was the only name that I really dropped,

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Speaker 4: so real to bring us in like that, so back

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Speaker 4: each other. We are together. This isn't for show, this

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Speaker 4: isn't for whatever. So I definitely think we are a

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Speaker 4: little like I feel slighted, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 4: it is what it is, like we're so so happy,

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Speaker 4: like I said, but it's definitely we're definitely a little disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 4: It's sunny commenting our stuff too, Like we would have

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Speaker 3: He was there for a while, was a big name.

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Speaker 4: I was only on a couple of episodes, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I still was on it, and I just feel like

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Speaker 3: I think we would have really shook things up.

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Speaker 4: We're both like similar in certain aspects and I just think.

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Speaker 3: It would have been funny and it would have been

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Speaker 2: Say, how would you guys have fared if you were

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Speaker 2: to get to the competition part of the show.

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Speaker 3: I think we're both competitive.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny because I was like watching that episode

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Speaker 4: like texted him and I was like, if you dressed.

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Speaker 3: Up like this, I don't know if I could look at.

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Speaker 2: You afterward, right?

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Speaker 3: What if you do was for money? And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: What did you think when you saw like this bomb

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Speaker 4: I had no clueher was heading because I knew the

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Speaker 4: Goldens were coming in. And it was basically like because

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Speaker 4: it's going to come to light eventually if this becomes

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Speaker 4: like who you trust or who you think is a

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Speaker 2: Who was the person that you were closest to on

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Speaker 4: Well, like naturally, Press and I were good friends before

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Speaker 4: Like I really did speak to Zoe often.

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Speaker 3: I spoke to Alicia often.

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Speaker 4: Obviously her and I missed each other, but definitely, like

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Speaker 4: I spoke to Pries', Zoe and Alicia a lot before

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Speaker 2: Alicia said she dropped some bombs on Nick Vile's podcast

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Speaker 2: this week. I just said that Kat's not an honest person,

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Speaker 2: talk to her boyfriend, former boyfriend, whatever the heck it was.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about this?

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Speaker 4: I heard the same exact things, and I know people

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Speaker 4: like online because I actually still haven't watched this last episode.

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Speaker 4: I was traveling home from Jersey on Monday, and then

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Speaker 4: I've just been so busy getting caught back up into

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Speaker 4: I got there on a Tuesday, So we all talked

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Speaker 3: Of the casts knew.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think it was like a thing to

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Speaker 4: we were all forming connections. But I definitely, you know,

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Speaker 4: people knew about it for sure.

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Speaker 3: I left.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if I was to stay, I would

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Zoe like knew things. She spoke she brought

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Speaker 4: Kat said things to her, so I heard thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Alicia is not making it up, but I know people

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Speaker 4: are like, Oh, Zoe and Alicia are just saying it

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Speaker 4: because they wanted to be with Dale and now they're

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Speaker 4: play State because of me.

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Speaker 3: But that's not true.

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Speaker 4: I want to say them anyway, but that's not the truth.

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Speaker 4: We did hear things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have to put you on to these leggings

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Speaker 2: Did anybody see her with the iPad? Because you guys

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Speaker 4: I did not see her with the iPad, so I

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're not super close to her. You don't

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't really know her, so going to Paradise,

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Speaker 4: I mean we talked here and there, but it wasn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, So would you say that? Well, I can't guess.

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Speaker 4: And that's like what I think is crazy because I

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Speaker 3: I don't. Again, I didn't watch.

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Speaker 4: The episode the other day. I don't know if maybe

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Speaker 3: But I think he might have known things, but I'm

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Speaker 2: Maybe she was just saying that she was like reading

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Speaker 3: No, you know, what do you know is for the

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Speaker 2: You are also friends with Juliana and she just had

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Speaker 3: Yes? I mean Juliana's talk every day.

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Speaker 2: why did they break up?

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Speaker 4: I just think, you know, two different like wants in

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Speaker 4: I think they just wanted, like maybe different things, and

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Speaker 4: there are different people at the end of the day. Right,

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Speaker 4: like you've been on the show, you know, like you're

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Speaker 4: in this moment, You're in this like amazing thing, and

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Speaker 4: And how can they fit into my life and my

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Speaker 4: I am so happy with Sam because we talk about

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Speaker 4: with my family? How do I see you with my friends?

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Speaker 4: So I think that plays like an important role. And

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Speaker 4: she's like me, she's so close with her family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to be invasive, but like, are we at

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Speaker 2: the love stage with Sam?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're figuring things out, Okay. Juliana was saying

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Speaker 2: Is there somebody that you and Sam could picture her

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Speaker 2: with from Bachelor Nation?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We haven't talked about it. They've faced like when Julianna

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Speaker 4: and we talked, but no, not really.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I have to like meet some of these people in person,

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, I see them on social media, but I'm like,

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Speaker 4: what the what's their vibes in real life?

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Speaker 2: So all right, I get that Grant handled the break

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Speaker 2: feels like a little harsh. Yeah, for something that was

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Speaker 2: kind of like mutual. How did you think that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that he could have handled it differently.

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Speaker 3: I think he needs help in his social media aspects.

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Speaker 2: He likes to start a little bit of a social

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, you could have

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Speaker 4: just like left the pictures up.

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Speaker 3: You could have left those pictures up too.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's like going back to like in

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Speaker 4: I think could have handled it differently. But if he

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Speaker 3: Thought it was a little bizarre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, it was a little it

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Speaker 2: was a little harsh. Jared and I were just talking

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Speaker 2: about the next Bachelor and how we don't think that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna pluck somebody from Bachelor's past we were like,

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Speaker 2: who is a b C list celebrity that they could

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Speaker 3: Do you have any ideas b C celebrity? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Can they borrow somebody from like another reality show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. What about the guy Kendall from Love Island?

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Speaker 3: I wonder if he would do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know any Love Island, but

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Speaker 2: I think I know that name, so he must be

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Speaker 3: Deal on the last season. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, what about one of the people from the Montana Boys.

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Speaker 4: I feel like those guys wouldn't even do anything like

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Speaker 2: Really Montana Boys, am I like such a mom and.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know the guy would Christy Cavalieri. But

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Speaker 3: he has a girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Oh that guy?

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Speaker 3: Not him? But like he's the crew of guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's like the main event of that crew.

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Speaker 3: But what do I do?

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Speaker 2: Okay okay, I didn't know that they were like a thing.

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Speaker 2: They have a great Montana Boys, and.

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Speaker 4: When I say they do tiktoks, they just like help

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Speaker 4: words from other songs in they're.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But do we want like a social media star

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Speaker 2: that's obviously. Yeah, I know, I want like an athlete

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Speaker 2: who's just retired or an actor who like used to

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Speaker 2: be big, but like maybe isn't like huge. Now is

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Speaker 2: there any from bachelor from Bachelor Nation that you think

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Speaker 2: would make it a Bachelor?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I feel like all the guys from gen

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Speaker 4: Z's are kind of just like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Can you please tell me, as somebody who's dating Sam,

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Speaker 2: what actually went on with what's his name? Like literally

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember his name? The evil man? Oh Devin, Devin,

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Speaker 2: thank you? Ben and I always joke about how like

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Speaker 2: we don't remember his name because like it's we raced

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Speaker 2: it from our memory because we should erase him from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, Like and I know some people like weren't

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Speaker 4: like the hugest fan of Sam, but like what I

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Speaker 4: appreciate is that at least he like calls you out,

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Speaker 4: Like in the moment, I feel like Devin was just

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Speaker 4: person like different in person, but yeah, Sam just said

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Speaker 4: like you know, he ran his mouth.

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Speaker 3: He said things like.

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Speaker 4: He would make fun of like Sam's vans, like how

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Speaker 4: old are you? Like are you like almost thirty? Years old,

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Speaker 4: You're making fun of the sneakers that he's.

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Speaker 3: Wearing, Like, come, we're weird. Yeah, I just think too.

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Speaker 4: It's like the edit like Sam was made to be

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Speaker 4: really funny. Not funny, but like now in Paradise, all

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Speaker 4: these guys are getting some heat, and none of those

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Speaker 4: guys had Sam's back and like the mentel all, so

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Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, it's like, oh, now you

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Speaker 4: guys are getting heat, and Sam's not going to have

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Speaker 4: your back because you didn't have this at that time.

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Speaker 4: Not that Sam's spiteful like that, but like the only

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Speaker 4: But it's just funny to now watch these guys who

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Speaker 4: blame the edit. But when Sam did it, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: okay interating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely read the character is wrong, thinking that

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Speaker 2: Sam was the one and the wrong and Devin was

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Speaker 2: the fine one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay, And I think it's cool, like a comebackstory,

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Speaker 4: like find out what's like people are really about.

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Speaker 2: I know, and it would have been nice to see

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Speaker 2: the two of you date in paradise so we can

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Speaker 2: get to know both of you a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you're preaching no us, girl, I get.

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Speaker 2: It anyway, Ali Joe, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: When's the next time you're gonna see your boyfriend?

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Speaker 4: He was supposed to come this weekend, but I think

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Speaker 4: we're just gonna push it till next week and then

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Speaker 4: it's like Labor Day weekend and we'll have some fun

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Speaker 4: if he comes here and me, we'll go on a

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Speaker 4: vote if I go there.

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Speaker 3: We said maybe we'll do a Charleston.

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Speaker 2: So we're so nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have fun, and we're trying to make our

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Speaker 4: time together like really, you know together, we're not like

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Speaker 4: on our phones. But yeah, we always have a good time.

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Speaker 4: It's always fun, whether we're like doing nothing or doing everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope you guys are together for a

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Speaker 2: while and then we'll bring the two of you on

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about how love has formed and blossomed

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Speaker 2: off screen.

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Speaker 3: Perfect sounds good. I can't wait.

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