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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March fifth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: And now a guy who comes in like a lion,

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Speaker 2: but goes out like well another lion, but with less hair. J. P.

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Speaker 1: Shacker, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman from the Hundai Studios of the Miller Electric

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Speaker 1: Center test drive a new Hyundai today only at your

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Speaker 1: local Hondai dealer. Here's what's coming up. Six days to

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Speaker 1: free agency. We're inside a week to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six lee year beginning officially that's Wednesday at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: There's a tampering period and we'll get to that coming

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Speaker 1: up in just a few moments. Some Jaguars possibilities question mark.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to be too many

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Speaker 1: of them. We'll see what Logs thinks about that. NFL

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Speaker 1: storylines is well on what has been busier time. Now

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Speaker 1: inside a week the free agency around the NFL. We're

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Speaker 1: on TESS, nxl Amjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube on

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Speaker 1: this Thursday Afternoon. JP Shadwick, Jeff Loghaman, Good afternoon, Jeffrey afternoon. JP.

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Speaker 3: You know I can remember in years past, we would

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Speaker 3: always get so excited about the prospect of free agency

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Speaker 3: because you know, the reality is is that bad teams

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Speaker 3: always look to that for hope. And when teams play well,

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Speaker 3: like this football team played well this past fall, you're like, eh, okay,

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Speaker 3: it's free agency. It's like, okay, I hope they get

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Speaker 3: some good players. But you're not sitting there hanging on

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Speaker 3: every piece of information that you can possibly get because

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Speaker 3: you feel like you're going to be good regardless of

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Speaker 3: what happens in free agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's been all seasons around here where you're

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Speaker 1: bringing in first wave, big money guys that you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's sometimes don't work out.

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Speaker 3: It's not the way you win. I mean it's you know, look,

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Speaker 3: I think last year, if you go back and you

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Speaker 3: look at the last two years of free agency for

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Speaker 3: this organization, last year, all of the free agents I

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Speaker 3: think cost as much as the previous year's hall of

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Speaker 3: two free agents. I mean, it dramatically different when it

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Speaker 3: comes to contractual cumulative total in free agency from last

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Speaker 3: year to the previous years. But I mean, look, I

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Speaker 3: mean the reality is when you're not good, that's the

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Speaker 3: hope that gets provided to a fan. Base.

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Speaker 4: Hey, look, hey, look what we're doing. We're trying to

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Speaker 4: get better or we're getting better. Look see, and then

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Speaker 4: it didn't get better this past year. You didn't spend

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Speaker 4: a lot of money, and everybody was like, eh, well

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Speaker 4: they got better.

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Speaker 3: You know that haven't spent a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And I think the bigger story right now is the

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Speaker 1: players that might not be coming back to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: So we've beaten this to death clearly.

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Speaker 3: Again, I just I go back to that and I

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Speaker 3: say that you know, well we'll see, you know. I

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Speaker 3: mean I think it's people sometimes have they jump to

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Speaker 3: conclusions and they think that as a foregone quin. People

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Speaker 3: jump to conclusions and in sports, you know, look when

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Speaker 3: you talk about it, that's kind of what sports talk

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Speaker 3: can be. I mean, you know, the reality is is that, look,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to sign guys before the free agents

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Speaker 3: period starts to have an interest in retaining players. I've

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Speaker 3: said that before, and I think sometimes it's actually good

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Speaker 3: that you can let the player see the market. And

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Speaker 3: then also, I think everybody that's involved in this has

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Speaker 3: got a plan. I mean I believe wholeheartedly and James

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Speaker 3: Gladstone's approach that he's got a plan on how to

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Speaker 3: handle if for some reason they lose players that they

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Speaker 3: have a plan to be able to replace them. And look,

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Speaker 3: the draft capital that they have also is going to

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Speaker 3: the players that they had last year that were unable

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Speaker 1: Right tailor ransaw Right was unavailable all season one. Travis Hunter, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Unavailable for the most part going down, So I mean

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Speaker 3: just because I want to see what the approach is.

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Speaker 3: I expect it to be similar to last year, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think the numbers, you know, the year number

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Fun because it's Look, we're all fans and we want

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest in it is fairly rare to have

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Speaker 1: there was a run obviously, and that's what happens. It

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Speaker 1: does happen. Kalais Campbell was that guy that was a

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Speaker 1: home run free agent signing right, that whole class, like,

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Speaker 1: those guys were different. And Elik Jackson was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys too, came in really good player. You know that.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty seventeen. That's a long time ago, about ten

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Speaker 1: years ago. Now, it doesn't happen all last year. There's

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Speaker 1: There will be just a few names.

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Speaker 3: It will be those types that are available. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you can find them, but I mean, look, you know

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean you know that, And that's why,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's what I want. Of the reasons, I

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Speaker 3: also why I love the structure of how the organization

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Speaker 3: get the most out of your players and make them

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Speaker 3: the best that they can possibly be. And general manager

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Speaker 3: get us players, get us all the best players you can.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about all the other operational aspects of the

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Speaker 3: focus on coaching. Okay, now Tony focuses in on handling

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Speaker 3: You know, I love the design and I love the setup.

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Speaker 3: And after this team's success last year, we're starting to

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Speaker 1: James Gladstone season is upon us now for the Jaguars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is his season.

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely from here through the draft. We're on

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Speaker 1: ten Toxlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. It is Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hours ap Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Coming up shortly, we'll

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Speaker 1: hear from Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence. They had to

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Speaker 1: sit down with Bucky Brooks. That hit earlier this week

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars YouTube. We'll hear some highlights of that. Also,

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Speaker 1: at around four point thirty, the voice of the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, will get his take on what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback room in Indianapolis. That's all coming up.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars did make a re signing this week. They

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Speaker 1: agreed to terms with tight end Quinton Mark, entering now

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Speaker 1: his fifth NFL season in twenty twenty six. Role player

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Speaker 3: I was and I think I mentioned this during the

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Speaker 3: you know what, we got to get our free agent

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Speaker 3: we signed him in free agency and he was a

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Speaker 3: Played very well, worked his rear end off, played hard,

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Speaker 1: And to see him step in there and execute some

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Speaker 3: He was putting a defender into the horizontal position, that's right,

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Speaker 3: which is what we call the dead roach position. And

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Speaker 3: Quinton Morris did did quite a few of those throughout

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Speaker 3: I appreciate him, man. He gave you everything he had

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Speaker 1: He has a touchdown the last game of the season

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Speaker 1: And reports are that it's a one year deal for

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Speaker 3: having some of these next guys that that you've trained

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Speaker 3: just step up.

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Speaker 1: We've got plenty ahead. When we come back logs, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to Indianapolis and like physically no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to an NFL from Trek that was

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Speaker 1: physically there last week. Beat me up.

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Speaker 3: How many bars did you hit by the way bars? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis has.

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Speaker 1: Got some great bars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do a handful. That's not a critical and

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Speaker 3: that's actually accomplished. That's what networking at the combine. Did

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Speaker 3: you get some trimp cocktails one night?

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Speaker 1: I did? That's totally a must. It's very good. And

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Speaker 1: that's where a lot of business gets done in the

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Speaker 1: league during combine.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of things that get done at

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Speaker 3: that restaurant. We're back at a moment. We'll hear from Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 3: the voice of the Colts. What's going on in the

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Speaker 3: quarterback room, what are the prospects in the off season

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Speaker 3: for Indy.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear about the division rival. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: it's Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on this Thursday, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logman. We're at

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Speaker 1: the Hundai studios of the Miller Electric Center, ten Tedxlamjaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube Free Agency less than a week away.

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Speaker 1: Combine is in the rear view. The Jaguars leadership did

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Speaker 1: not attend. The Jaguars did though, that was the conversation

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Speaker 1: of last week. Of course, nearly forty credentialed Jaguars employees

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Speaker 1: were in Indianapolis doing the work that has always been done,

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Speaker 1: and also in Indianapolis last week. A very busy radio Row.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the busiest we've seen since we've been

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Speaker 1: going since twenty thirteen. Keep adding tables on Radio Row,

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Speaker 1: but it's a good time to catch up with everybody

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Speaker 1: around the league, and especially in the AFC South. And

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Speaker 1: each week we'll have a conversation with the voice of

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Speaker 1: each team in this division. This week the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: and announcer Matt Taylor. And there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: in Indy. Now we'll start with the quarterback situation from

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Speaker 1: an organization that had Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck back

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Speaker 1: to back. Just since then, all these changes at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: How does it get settled back down is the answer

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Speaker 1: on this roster?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean what they got from

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones I think exceeded even the most optimistic fans

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Speaker 2: expectations for last year. I mean, Daniel Jones was the

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Speaker 2: new guy, but to be to give him, to give

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Speaker 2: him credit, there's been a lot of new guys for

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Speaker 2: the Colts, and what he did coming in in a

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Speaker 2: short amount of time after being picked up in free

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Speaker 2: agency last March, he really did a nice job of

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Speaker 2: connecting with everybody inside the organization, especially the guys inside

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Speaker 2: the locker room. Really galvanized the room, went way above

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Speaker 2: and beyond in terms of connecting with all the different

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Speaker 2: parts of the roster, and so guys wanted to play

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Speaker 2: for him. Guys really bought into who he was personality wise,

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Speaker 2: and so for the first ten games of the season

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Speaker 2: last year, when he and everybody else on offense was healthy,

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Speaker 2: you saw it do some really impressive things. Now, the

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Speaker 2: naysayers to that will say, well, look at who the

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Speaker 2: Colts played. I think there's there's some credence to that. However,

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Speaker 2: the Colts were beaten the crap out of bad teams

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Speaker 2: and that's what you're supposed to do to bad teams, right.

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Speaker 2: They won a bunch of games by twenty plus points,

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Speaker 2: and they were kind of on cruise control in the

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Speaker 2: first ten games of the year when they were eight

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Speaker 2: and two and leading the offense or leading the NFL

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Speaker 2: in offense and basically everything, you know, scoring thirty three

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Speaker 2: points per game. They were averaging almost four hundred yards

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Speaker 2: and not to get two in the weeds because it's

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Speaker 2: kind of analytical, but I mean their points per possession

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Speaker 2: was over three, like well over three, and that's kind

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Speaker 2: of a nerdy stat but that just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: points to how efficient they were in those first ten games.

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Speaker 2: And then he experiences the fracture of fibula in Germany.

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Speaker 2: The offense wasn't the same. Then he gets hurt, you know,

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Speaker 2: or goes out injured altogether with the torn achilles in

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville in Week fourteen, and then the season just spiraled

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Speaker 2: out of control. They had a bunch of injuries on

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Speaker 2: defense too, which I'm sure we'll talk about. But I

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Speaker 2: do think that Jones is the long term answer. In

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Speaker 2: the short term, he's coming off a season, you know,

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Speaker 2: a torn achilles late in the season. So where's he

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Speaker 2: going to be. Is he going to be ready for

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Speaker 2: the start of training camp at the earliest. I think

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Speaker 2: that's what you're looking at. But I think when you

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Speaker 2: trade two first round picks for Sauce Gardner in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the season, the trade deadline, when you're eight

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Speaker 2: and two him, that sent two messages. One it was

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Speaker 2: we're all in. We like where we're at, and if

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Speaker 2: we give away two first round picks, we like what

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Speaker 2: we have in quarterback and Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson done, It's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you ask me right now in mid February,

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Speaker 2: you know, to describe the hierarchy of the depth chart

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. I mean, right now, you've got to start

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Speaker 2: with Jones, and even that we don't know because he

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Speaker 2: hasn't signed yet. And then you got Riley Leonard, who

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Speaker 2: came in in the second half of that Jacksonville game,

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Speaker 2: played pretty well, got the start Week eighteen in Houston

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Speaker 2: and played about a half against the Houston's starting defense

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Speaker 2: and played pretty well all things considered. And then you've

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Speaker 2: got Anthony Richardson. There's a lot of unknowns there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: first of all, he's only started fifteen games. He's got

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Speaker 2: the eye injury. On top of all the other injuries

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Speaker 2: that he's experienced in the first two plus years in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, he's been benched. So I think the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing is, you know, we're gonna hear from Shane Stike

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Speaker 2: and Chris Ballard later on today as we sit here

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Speaker 2: and talk now, hopefully we'll get more clarity on where

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Speaker 2: he's at from this eye injury thing that Fleuke pregame

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Speaker 2: warm up injury that he had in Week six before

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Speaker 2: a home game against the Cardinals. Where is he at

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Speaker 2: from that? And the Colts also have a decision to

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Speaker 2: make on his fifth year option by May first. That's

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Speaker 2: a big component in this as well. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean to say there's uncertainty surrounding a top five pick

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Speaker 2: is an understatement considering all the success they had last

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Speaker 2: year with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, when he

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Speaker 2: beat out Anthony Richardson, when they had that true open

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Speaker 2: competition at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor with his voice of the Colts, how much

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Speaker 1: shelf life is left in the offensive line in the

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Speaker 1: running game for Indy.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot, you know, I mean, they got

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Speaker 2: a big decision to make at right tackle with Braydon Smith.

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Speaker 2: He's a free agent. He's been a mainstay at that

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Speaker 2: spot since twenty eighteen, started over one hundred games. But

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Speaker 2: you know, as you know, JP, you got a tough

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Speaker 2: calls and you sometimes you just got to move on

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Speaker 2: from good players because you know, the math doesn't line up,

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Speaker 2: so when you could, you could potentially be looking at

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Speaker 2: having to pay your starting quarterback next year depending on

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Speaker 2: how this goes with Daniel Jones over forty million dollars,

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Speaker 2: and then Alec Pierce is a free agent as well,

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Speaker 2: So it's not hyperbole to say that the Colts have

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Speaker 2: maybe two of the biggest free agents going into this

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Speaker 2: offseason period on the same team. You know, maybe the

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Speaker 2: best free agent quarterback and maybe the best free agent

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. So I don't know if you can afford

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Speaker 2: to pay your quarterback forty plus million dollars and have

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Speaker 2: two receivers making twenty plus million dollars when you factor

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Speaker 2: in Michael Pittman Junior in there as well. But I

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Speaker 2: think the offensive line's got a lot of good life

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Speaker 2: in it. I think Jonathan Taylor still does too, And

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Speaker 2: that's the frustrating thing about Jonathan Taylor last year is

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Speaker 2: he had another other worldly statistical type season over fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred yards, especially in the first ten games, and everybody

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Speaker 2: was healthy on offense, but they didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So it just goes to show you that Taylor is special.

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Speaker 2: But it can't be all about Taylor. It can't be

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Speaker 2: all about the running game. In order for him to

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Speaker 2: be really efficient and to hit those big home runs

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Speaker 2: and rip off the long runs, he's got to have

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Speaker 2: the passing game, which the Colts didn't have when Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones was compromised.

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor with us. Last couple questions here, and let's

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Speaker 1: go to the defensive side. You mentioned the injuries. What's

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Speaker 1: your greatest concern moving ahead about this Colts defense?

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Speaker 2: It's the pass rush. You know, last offseason they really

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Speaker 2: went big and addressing the secondary, especially in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Cam Bind him to play safety, which Oarvarius War to

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Speaker 2: play corner. War dealt with a lot of concussions. In fact,

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Speaker 2: three of them throughout the season played a career low

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Speaker 2: seven games. So it was a great bold move on

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Speaker 2: paper to go out and execute that contract. And free

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Speaker 2: agency just didn't pay off dividends. Same thing with Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 2: They didn't stop there at the trade deadline. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: you bring in Sauce Gardner, a premium player playing a

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Speaker 2: premium position that doesn't pay off big dividends because he

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Speaker 2: comes up with a calf injury misses most of the

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Speaker 2: back half of the season or at least, you know,

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Speaker 2: most of the end of the season after he was

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Speaker 2: traded for. But so long winded way of saying, I

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Speaker 2: think stability wise, at least on paper, the secondary is

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Speaker 2: in a good spot. We'll see, but they got to

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Speaker 2: do something about the pass rush. They have to find

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Speaker 2: more consistency. And God loved Forest Buckner. He's one of

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Speaker 2: the best players at his position in the NFL. But

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Speaker 2: you can't have your best pass rusher played defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: like it just can't happen. And the Colts have three

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Speaker 2: in house free agents at defensive end Quidty pay, Samson

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Speaker 2: Aviacom and Taekwon Lewis. The reality there is those three

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Speaker 2: guys last year combined for nine sacks. They just have

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Speaker 2: to have more, and without a first round pick, I

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Speaker 2: think the only viable way to do it to be

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Speaker 2: impactful for next year is to go out and overspending

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Speaker 2: free agency, so that you have to factor that into

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Speaker 2: it too when you talk about Jones and Pearce and

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Speaker 2: how you spend your money there. But I think you

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Speaker 2: have to spend in free agency at defensive end while

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Speaker 2: also trying to supplement that spot in the draft too.

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Speaker 1: Both teams Colts Jaguars no first round picks. So what

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Speaker 1: are we doing on Thursday of the draft? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we go to beat ups meet halfway. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what that is, maybe like Atlanta or Nashville or something,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm open, if you're if you're available.

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Speaker 1: That's Matt Taylor, voice of the Indianapolis Colts, and a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to their JP Shatterick Jeff Logaman back

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Speaker 1: with your of course. That interview was recorded last Tuesday

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Speaker 1: at the Combine at Radio Row in Indianapolis. There have

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Speaker 1: been some changes since then. For the quarterback situation Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: the Colts put the transition transition tag on it, so

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Speaker 1: basically Colts had the first ride of refusal if they

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Speaker 1: get a competing offer sheet. He could sign with an

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Speaker 1: instry club, but that means the Colts can match it

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't sign.

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Speaker 3: A compensation if he if he's you know, so if

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Speaker 3: he signs with another club and they choose not to match,

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Speaker 3: there's no compensation.

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Speaker 1: That's right, he'd be gone. But it gives him the

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Speaker 1: first at a refusal and if he doesn't get a

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Speaker 1: competing offer sheet, then he gets almost thirty eight million

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Speaker 1: dollars next year from the Colts. Is the transition tang correct?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, which is significantly less than the franchise Taglet's

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Speaker 3: you know, look and it'll be interest. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: a very interesting scenario to wash. I mean, you're you're

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Speaker 3: talking about arguably the best quarterback in the league. Before

649
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Speaker 3: he got those two injuries that affected his level of playing.

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Speaker 1: He was so hot, I mean that first half of

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Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, they were talking about him for MVP.

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Speaker 3: Well and MVP conversation and how stupid did a lot

653
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Speaker 3: of other teams in the National Football League look that

654
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Speaker 3: didn't have quarterbacks and that or didn't get anybody, or

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Speaker 3: they orchestrated a trade for a guy that was available

656
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Speaker 3: on the street. And you know, I think he's a

657
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Speaker 3: I think he's a player that if I'm quarter back Needdy,

658
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 3: I am making a phone call. I would. I would

659
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Speaker 3: make a phone call if I needed a quarterback for

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. And there's no risk, right because if I

661
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Speaker 3: sign him. Let's say I'm in Edmonton, I'm in the

662
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Speaker 3: Edmonton ESK most football team. I go and I sign

663
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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. I don't I don't have to pay any price.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just me trying to sign him, negotiating with him.

665
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Speaker 3: There's no compensation. So the Colts, I don't know about

666
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Speaker 3: this transition tag, you know, I mean, it's gonna be

667
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: in's that's going to be a really interesting watch because

668
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Speaker 3: the reality is, if you had asked this question ten

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Speaker 3: years ago, a quarterback coming off an achilles huge question

670
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: mark massive. Nowadays, it's fairly commonplace. And the one position

671
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: that we know, okay, let's go back to Dan Reno

672
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: that has been able to come back from an Achilles' tear.

673
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: Could quarterback position has been like the one It used

674
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Speaker 3: to be the only one that could do it. Now

675
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: it's commonplace for athletes of all kinds to come back.

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Speaker 1: A little different. Dan Marino didn't run anywhere, you know,

677
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: he did not run at all. I mean, and then

678
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones does have some mobility about him in his stays.

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Speaker 3: The cool thing is is I had a conversation with

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Speaker 3: doctor Kevin Kaplan, who is the Jaguars orthopedic surgeon. It

681
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: me and him had a conversation about this a few

682
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: years back, and it was about the Achilles repair nowadays

683
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 3: and how they had this tool jig that make sure

684
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Speaker 3: that you get balanced flexibility amongst both ankles. That was

685
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: always a problem from before about finding that sweet spot

686
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: and the flexibility to have them equal. And they have

687
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: this new jig device that they used to where they're

688
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 3: not actually sowing the end of the terror, but kind

689
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: of beyond that and then it naturally heals together. And

690
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: he said that it's an amazing progress in science medical science,

691
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: this technique to repair Achilles tendons, which is makeing them

692
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: so much more successful. And uh, you know, it's if

693
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Speaker 3: you're kind of a med nut, and I wish I

694
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: was kind of curious about it, but it's very interesting

695
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: and Daniel Jones, I expect him to make a full

696
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: recovery and you're definitely not going to put your eggs

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Speaker 3: into the Anthony Richardson basket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other part of the conversation. That's changed

699
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Speaker 1: as well since that conversation. They've told Anthony Richardson and

700
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Speaker 1: his representative they could look for a trade if they need.

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Speaker 3: That's that's Anthony Richardson tapping out because he needed to

702
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 3: blow during.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty wild.

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Speaker 3: Bro, you're done. And then he broke an orbital bone

705
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: from his snamping elastic elastic band before the game. Yeah, which,

706
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Speaker 3: you know, I feel bad for him when it comes

707
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: to that, but bro, you tapped out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's good for a hamstring injury a season

709
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: as well. That's usually how that goes.

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00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 3: He's a He's a great athlete, incredible, great athlete. There

712
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: was never a debate about his level of athleticism. There

713
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: was just a debate about his level of plays a

714
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Speaker 3: quarterback position and the inexperience that he had coming out

715
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Speaker 3: of UF. Now, look, you know, I mean there are

716
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Speaker 3: some guys that develop, but I mean, just so I

717
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 3: was shocked that the Colts used that high of a pack.

718
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Speaker 3: I would have never have done it just because there's

719
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Speaker 3: just not You got to have a little bit of

720
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Speaker 3: history of success playing that position. You can't just be

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Speaker 3: a great athlete and then go oh yeah, wow, he

722
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: can throw the ball this far and he runs this

723
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Speaker 3: forty times.

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Speaker 1: Man, look at him. Look at that physique.

725
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Speaker 3: The eye test tells me he's gonna be good. No,

726
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: trust me, trust your eyes. See the level of play.

727
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: And that really wasn't there for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Matt Taylor, voice of the Indianapolis Colts next week,

729
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Speaker 1: Taylor's ours are a voice of the Tennessee Titans. We'll

730
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Speaker 1: get there. The thoughts on what's going on in Nashville

731
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Speaker 1: with a lot of change, a lot of rivalry coming

732
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Speaker 1: there in Music City. Yeah, a lot of rival added

733
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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, and there will be a football game too.

734
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Speaker 3: We'll be won't It won't be dull weeks two times

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 1: It'll sure. We'll here from Taylor next week. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: back in a moment. Microsoft Coat Pilot will help us

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Speaker 1: with appending Jaguars free agent Back in a moment on

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Speaker 1: ten ten XLA, n Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick Jeff Logman from the Hyundai studios at the

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Speaker 1: Miller Electric Center ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're with us on this Thursday afternoon, inside a

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Speaker 1: week until free agency. In time now to get Microsoft

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00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: coat pilot to help us with a possible Jags free

746
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: agent question today. What were Travis Etn's junior's stats in

747
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? Well, the answer is lengthy. Today is

748
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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five NFL s season was one of

749
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Speaker 1: his most productive, with strong contributions both as a runner

750
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Speaker 1: and receiver for the Jaguars. He finished twenty twenty five

751
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: regular season with two hundred and sixty carries eleven hundred

752
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: and seven yards, seven rushing touchdowns, along with thirty six

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Speaker 1: receptions for two hundred and ninety two yards and six

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Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. Check out Microsoft co Pilot open the Pod

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Speaker 1: Bay doors.

756
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Speaker 3: Out pretty interesting in that I pulled up the NFL

757
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: free agent rankings and everybody's got a site, Right's got one?

758
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Speaker 3: You know, everybody's got their own personal ones.

759
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Speaker 1: John Oser has a free agent tracker, Okay, Jaguars dot com,

760
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: so PFF Pro Football Focus actually has their own as well,

761
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Speaker 1: and so I was just kind of checking it out

762
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Speaker 1: just out of curiosity and just here's a couple free

763
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Speaker 1: agents and what their rankings are players of note. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you the top five and then some other players

765
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Speaker 1: of note.

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Speaker 3: Top number one they have is Trey Hendrickson.

767
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good player, really good player, thirty one years old.

768
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: Though that's okay, he's uh, I think those players, I

769
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: think if you look at him, he's a relatively low

770
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: knowledge player. Number two is George Pickens, who has the

771
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: franchise here. Yeah, and so he's not going to be available.

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00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: Number three is Tyler Linderbaum, the center for the Ravens.

773
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: Excellent player. Number two, rated center by most people in

774
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Speaker 3: the National Football League. Number four Devin Lloyd okay, Jacksonville Jaguars, Yeah, okay.

775
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: Number five is Jamel Dean Corner Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Good

776
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: football player. Some other players of note. The Jaguars running

777
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: back Travis etn is at number fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good, okay.

779
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: One other player of note, I mean running back above him,

780
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: because Breeze Hall is the only one above him. The

781
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: one that was really interesting and this is obviously Jaguars related,

782
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: because as I was scrolling through, you get down to

783
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Speaker 3: twenty five Juwan Jennings, twenty six Rashid Shaheed, who had

784
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: an excellent year finishing up with the Seahawks. They traded

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Speaker 3: for m Joey Bosa at twenty seven, Aaron Rodgers at

786
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Speaker 3: twenty eight, and coming in at number twenty nine. Going

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Speaker 3: into year nineteen, Kaleias came in.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: How about that? Wow he's still ranked HI. And here's

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Speaker 3: what they say about.

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Speaker 8: This.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is crazy, right. It says this about

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00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: kaleis Okay. Last year he had six hundred and sixty

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00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: seven snaps. His PFF grade was seventy two point two,

795
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Speaker 3: which is a high quality starting starter rating. It says

796
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: retirement seems to be afraid of Camp, who is yet

797
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: to show signs of slowing down. Through eighteen NFL seasons,

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00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: He's logged thirty plus quarterback pressures in all but two

799
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Speaker 3: of those years, and his seventy two point two PFF

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Speaker 3: overall grade in twenty twenty five made it fifty straight

801
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: years of topping seventy point zero rating. Pretty impressive.

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00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: He's not going to hang it up, is he?

803
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: He might?

804
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna play here. He's gonna play Oh, I absolutely

805
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 3: could play here. I mean, look, this team needs pass

806
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: rushers and interior pass rushers. You know, somebody maybe put

807
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: alongside Eric Armstead.

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Can you imagine him finishing his career here in Jackson?

809
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: Would love it also? I mean, look or three years.

810
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: But Bay he earned so much respect and so much

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00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: love here for a lot of reasons. Number one, his

812
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: level of play, number two, the quality of person that

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00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: he was, and how gracious he was to all the

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00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: fan base in the community while he was here. And

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Speaker 3: let's not forget the mentoring job that he did with

816
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: Josh Heinz Allen. Absolutely, I mean, there's a lot of

817
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: reasons to love Kalays Campbell, and a return here absolutely

818
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: would work. So I lived near the San Marco Why

819
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: should by the way, why should he go out with

820
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: a loser?

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Speaker 1: Right? Come on, come on back, you know, come on,

822
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: this team's back on the up now. So I live

823
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: near San Marco, and there was not a better sight

824
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: than seeing him and his wife walk around San Marco

825
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Square like fans come up to them but kind of

826
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Speaker 1: give him their space. But he just loved this town.

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Speaker 1: He loved being in this area and out he can't hide, no,

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Speaker 1: he sticks out.

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Speaker 3: Ten pounds. Yeah, the only guy, well, one of the

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Speaker 3: few guys that I was ever around where I just

831
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: I literally felt small standing next to him, and I

832
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: felt like I wanted to get up on my tippy

833
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: toes a little bit when I was around him. You know,

834
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Speaker 3: there's not many guys that I do that with.

835
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Speaker 1: Imagine trying to block him, you know what I mean,

836
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: like because because of that link and how he uses

837
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: it and the angles he can put on an offensive lineman.

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00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's I will say this, he's he's on

839
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: the ground a lot more than he used to be,

840
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: aren't we all?

841
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: And and you know, look, he.

842
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: Does have the signs of aging. He's not an ageless wonder.

843
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Even though he's in your nineteen coming up. If you play,

844
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 3: he's still blocking kicks, He's still play, he still can play,

845
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: and uh, look what's that song? I'm not as good

846
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: as I once was. We're all in that same category.

847
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: I mean, unless you're like twenty one, then you're gonna

848
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: get better. But you know, if you're in the year

849
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: where he is, and or I mean you are, we

850
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: can say though that we're not as good as I once.

851
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: Was, but as good once as I ever was. So

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00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: get him out there a few snaps, right, You don't

853
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: need him every six hundred snaps.

854
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: And repressive thing is that, you know, when he went

855
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: to Baltimore, that was kind of the expectations though he

856
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: would cut back.

857
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just didn't happen, right, because that's why

858
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: they traded him. It's like, oh, he's kind of on

859
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: the back end. They were thinking that here, and there's

860
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Speaker 1: a lot of money for a guy in the back end.

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00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: Hold the fun.

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00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: He's still right there, not in the back end. A

863
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, it wasn't on the back end,

864
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Speaker 3: but his level of play was still on its plateau.

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Speaker 1: I could tell Kalay his stories all day, but the

866
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Speaker 1: one a couple of years ago, week won Miami. Two

867
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Speaker 1: hours before the game, he's in handcuffs with Tyreek Hill

868
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: outside and then the first two plays of the game

869
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: a sack and a tackle for loss.

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Speaker 3: Kalis, Yeah, he's He's a heck of a football player

871
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: and a heck of a human being and unreal. Yeah,

872
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Speaker 3: I wish him the best whatever whatever he chooses to do.

873
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Speaker 3: He has earned a few.

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Speaker 1: Minutes left in the program here. And what's coming up

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Speaker 1: the new league year? March eleventh, four pm the start

876
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Speaker 1: a free agency. There's the two day negotiation window. Before that,

877
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Speaker 1: the legal tampering period will be busy as always, and

878
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: then you'll likely see some agreed to terms slash contracts

879
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: being signed right after that four o'clock start. We'll see

880
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: what the Jaguars have in mind. I mean, they'll they'll

881
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: have to do some business. Then I'll have to do

882
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: it right away. But this doesn't feel like Logs. This

883
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: is going to be the big wave of last year.

884
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: They had what eight guys pretty early. I don't know

885
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: if it'll be that, and.

886
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: I think it still could be that wave early, but

887
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: not you know, we get so accustomed to thinking that

888
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: the first wave is the expensive wave.

889
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have to be that. That wasn't that

890
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: last year. This just happened.

891
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 3: So I think we could see this team be very

892
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: active at the beginning because they know who they want,

893
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 3: but it's not necessarily maybe competing for the big number.

894
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you like a guy, you don't

895
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: have to sit there and go, well, you know what,

896
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 3: we got to wait until tier two of free agency hits,

897
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: because then that's when the money is a little bit less.

898
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: You can go after those guys right away. Anyway, you

899
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: target guys, and I think that's the one thing that

900
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: they did a really good job of last year. They

901
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: had a target list and they went right at it.

902
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: They didn't waste any time. They got who they wanted to.

903
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that there was one person on their

904
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: list that they did not get, And I think part

905
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Speaker 3: of the reason for that was that they didn't wait

906
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: until the big money guys kind of finished to go

907
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 3: out after maybe some of the lesser money guys. They

908
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: went after the lesser money guys as soon as they

909
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: did maybe the little bit more money guys were being

910
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: sought after.

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00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: So I like the philosophy. We'll look forward to that

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00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: next week. We'll have full coverage of that on this

913
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Speaker 1: program next Thursday, because we'll be right in the thick

914
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Speaker 1: of it a day into the new league year and

915
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: see if the Jaguars have made any deals by that

916
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: time frame. Of course, Wednesday four o'clock. As we said,

917
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: the start of free agency will be on a Thursday

918
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock, so twenty four hours after the new

919
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: league year begins. And then of course at the end

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00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: of March, the NFL annual meeting will have the official

921
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: ownership vote, most likely on the Jags plans for home

922
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: games for twenty twenty. Big deal, right, that's a big deal. Yeah,

923
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. So I'm looking forward to that.

924
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Speaker 3: By the way, I was just looking another name on

925
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Speaker 3: this list as a guy that's up there, long tooth.

926
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Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner. Oh wow, been around forever at number forty

927
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: seven available for me of the man.

928
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Ye did he win that year?

929
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Speaker 3: I think he did.

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Speaker 1: He is.

931
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Speaker 3: Uh, he's another one of those guys. And I think

932
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Speaker 3: impressive too because he actually handles the negotiation of his

933
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Speaker 3: contract himself, which is impressive.

934
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Speaker 1: He did win the Walter Payton Man of the Others.

935
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Speaker 3: Year and uh and uh. His his level of success

936
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Speaker 3: is very similar to Kalais. Bobby Wagner might be the

937
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Speaker 3: most surest tackling linebacker maybe to ever grace the professional

938
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Speaker 3: football field. Ever, he's right up there. Wow, he he had.

939
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Speaker 3: He had I think the least amount of mistackles for

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: well over a decade of any other linebacker defender in

941
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Speaker 3: the National Football League. And for years Seattle thought he

942
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: was done. The Rams are like, hey, come on over here,

943
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: and then the Rams let him go, and then now

944
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Speaker 3: he's in Washington still playing.

945
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Speaker 1: Well. Well, I have a good one. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. We'll see in a couple of weeks, couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, Jeff Logman, I'm j P. Shadwick. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, David Choe, our entire crew, Brent Reaver as well.

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Speaker 1: This is Shaguars Happy Hour,