1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and had Kowitz. We're coming 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at Lambeufield to preview 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: the Packers and the Chargers. It will be a Sunday 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: noon kickoff at lambeau Field. We have to enjoy this one, West, 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: because it's the last Sunday noon kickoff we're gonna have 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: for a while after a nice run of them here 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: from a work perspective, but that. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Side, it's been exceptional this year too. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, that aside the Chargers. And if I can get 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: through this entire show without calling the San Diego Chargers, 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: that'll be an accomplishment because I'm still not used to 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the fact that they are the Los Angeles. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Do you to do like a bet, like you know, 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: a dollar, whoever calls them San Diego first. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: A little jar in front of my drop money in 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: there every time I call them the San Diego Chargers. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: They're coming into lambeau Field with a four and five record, West, 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: and a few things stand out about this team when 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: you look at just the scores, the numbers. How their 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: season is gone, six of their nine games decided by 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: one score, and the Chargers are two and four in 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: those one score games. This is a team that, certainly 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: at four and five, looking to get to five hundred 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: and keep themselves right in the thick of things in 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: the AFC, But they are not far off from being 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: in a much better position because they played some down 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: to the wire, high scoring, close games, including last week 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions, and the Packers are going to 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: have to be ready for everything that Justin Herbert and 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: this offense is going to throw at him on Sunday afternoon. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chargers are such an interesting ball club because 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: you know exactly what you're getting when you face them, 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: and teams still can't stop it right, And you know, 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: first and foremost the fact, and one of the things 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: I've been drilling home all week. They've played nine games, 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: two of them they've been held under twenty points and 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: they lost both of those games. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Actually only two that they've been held under twenty four. 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: Twenty four, yes, twenty four points or more in seven 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: of their nine games, and the only two teams to 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: do it hold them under twenty four. The Chiefs and 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, two teams that everybody's expecting are going to 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: be playing, you know, well into January in the postseason 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: here in the NFL. Everybody else has had a hard 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: time stopping these guys. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they kind of they're an annoying team to 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: face because you have Keenan Allen, who's in the middle 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: of an All Pro season right now, almost nine hundred 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: receiving yards seventy three receptions. But then you got that 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: it's almost like a gnat in the backfield in Austin Eckler, 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: where it's he can run the ball, he can catch 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: the ball, and just when you think you have them 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: in a third down situation where you're gonna get off 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: the field, Eckler can make something happen to continue drives. 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: I mean when I look at the Chargers and I've 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: watched them a lot this season, because again, Eckler is 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: my fantasy one of my fantasy running backs. What impresses 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: me the most is this game, ultimately, Mike is about 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: moving the chains, and there are very few teams in 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: the National Football League that move the chains better than 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: the LA Chargers. 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about Austin Eckler, He's had missed some 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: time earlier in the season with an injury, but even 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: with the time that he's missed, he still has six 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards from scrimmage combining his rushing and receiving. 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: And what really jumps out is that as a running back, 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: his average per reception when he catches a pass is 70 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: eleven point three yards. That's extremely rare when a running 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: back is averaging more than ten yards per catch because 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: usually running backs who are used frequently as pass catchers 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: you're going to end up with like an eight or 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: a nine or nine and a half yard average. He's 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: almost at eleven and a half yard average when he 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: catches a pass. And I hope I'm not dating myself here, 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: but he the only comp in a sense that I 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: can say, and it's not even really a comp because 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: there's a caveat to it. He reminds me of Roger 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Craig from those old San Francisco forty nine ers offenses. 81 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: But he's Roger Craig who's a lot harder to tackle 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: because of his quickness and his shiftiness and everything he 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: can do with the ball in his hands. This guy 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: is a big time weapon in this offense, and then 85 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you got Keenan Allen on the outside, 86 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: seventy three catches, eight hundred and ninety five yards, six touchdowns. 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: This season cracked the ten thousand yard mark. He's now 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: the sixth active receiver in the NFL. Who's who has 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: ten thousand plus career receiving yards. And the guy pulling 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the trigger on everything Justin Herbert a ninety nine point 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: five passer rating on the year, seventeen touchdowns, five interceptions, 92 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: and an arm that is not afraid to make any 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: throw he's asked to make. 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: Now, I'm a big I have always been a big 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert fan. 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: I during the Preacher process, I brought it up when 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: we did our three Things video. But I remember talking 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: with David Yost, who was Jordan Love's offensive coordinator and 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: quarterback coach at Utah State. Well before that he was 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: at Oregon with Justin Herbert, and just the stories that 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 2: he told of this guy in his professionalism, his arm strength, 103 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: and just the pure and tangibles that they had to 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: work with. He was a dynamic I think in a 105 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: lot of years would have probably even been a number 106 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: one overall pick it just so happened that he ended 107 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: up being in probably the most quarterback rich draft class 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: of this era, and he's done everything I think you 109 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: could have asked from him with the Chargers. I know 110 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people bring up his quarterback wins and 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: loss record, but I'll tell you what, Mike, you and 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: I have covered enough football that you know whether or 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: not you have a guy when you've been dealing with 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: him for two three years. Justin Herbert is the guy 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: for the Chargers. And as much as we've always talked 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: about the Packers in this tradition of quarterbacks, I think 117 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: you really need to put the Chargers in that conversation too. 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: To go from Drew Brees, who wasn't Drew Brees at 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: the time, I get that, But to go from Drew 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Brees to Philip Rivers to now with Herbert, just that 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: passing the baton and what he's been able to do. 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: The fact that Keenan Allen has been as dynamic as 123 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: he's been with both Rivers and Herbert at different junctures 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: in his career, I think speaks to the overall ability 125 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: of Herbert, who, by the way, has had to make 126 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: a little bit happen too, because he lost Eckler for 127 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, and he's been without Mike Williams 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: too now after he's been out for the season. So 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: it's not like they just have this plethora of receiving options. 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: A lot of times he's had to make plays on 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: his own as well. 132 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Justin Herbert for a bigger quarterback stature wise, 133 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: size wise, he's a pretty good sized guy. He can 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: beat you with his legs. I mean, I go back 135 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: to as a Wisconsin Badger fan, go back to watching 136 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: him in the Rose Bowl against Wisconsin where he really 137 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball all that well in that game, 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: but he killed Wisconsin with his legs. Because for a 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: big guy, he can really run. He can yet his 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: momentum going, he can make plays happen that way. He's 141 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of like Josh Allen in that way, although it's 142 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: not though it's not as though the Chargers you know, 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: do like designed runs or called runs for him like 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo does with Allen. But for a big guy, he 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: can be really really dangerous when when he decides to 146 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: take off and run. The flip side of this, of course, 147 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: with the Chargers is a struggling defense and that's really 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: the biggest reason that that for everything they've done offensively, 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: they are only four and five so far this year. 150 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: The defense ranks thirty first in the league in yards allowed, 151 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourth in the league in points allowed, last in 152 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: the league in passing yards allowed, and in first downs allowed. 153 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: Teams have you know, done kind of whatever they've wanted 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: to against against the Chargers defense in a lot of games. 155 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: And just when the Chargers thought they were kind of 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: getting their defense back to where they'd like to see 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: it after a slow start to the season, then the 158 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and Jared Goff and those guys they got 159 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: into that shootout last week, and then now everybody's saying 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: with Brandon Staley, like what's going on with that defense again? 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: With the Packers showing the progress that they did offensively 162 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: against the Steelers, Like we talked about on our last show, 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: this could be a really really entertaining football game. 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: We was it could. Here's what's funny about this Pittsburgh. 165 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: Nothing made sense with them, their defense, their team. There 166 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: are points four points against being six and three and 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 2: what have you. I can't figure out the Chargers defense 168 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: at all, Like why they're struggling, they take the ball away. 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: They have a top ten ranked defense in terms of takeaways. 170 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: Khalil Mack has nine sacks, although a bulk of those 171 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: have come in a couple of games. Joey Bosa, Sante Samuel, 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks, you know, Derwin James. They have a lot 173 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: of talent on that side of the ball. Like, if 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: you just didn't look at the stats all we're just like, okay, 175 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: this is the defense your face. 176 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you just look at the depth chart, the 177 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: guys at the guys at the front of all those 178 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: guys you named off, you'd be like, oh, this is 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: this ought to be a you know, top ten, top 180 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: twelve defense in the league. 181 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it would be different if it's like, Okay, 182 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: well they're not getting home to the quarterback, or they're 183 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: not taking the ball away, or they can't get off 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: the field. They do everything pretty well. But you saw 185 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: last week in that game against you know, with the Lions, 186 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: is that you know, the way they ran the ball, 187 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: how they built the runoff of that, and just the 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: issues they had and ultimately end up losing a shootout 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: against a veteran quarterback. That's the big challenge for Green 190 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Bay standpoint. I think it's a big opportunity. There are 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: yards to be gained out there. They got yards last 192 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: week against Pittsburgh, who at the time I think was 193 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: ranked thirty first in total defense, So you hope that 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: you can convert and also being able to make that 195 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: into points in the red area. But but certainly when 196 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: you look in terms of what they have in the 197 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: positions and the talent that is available there, the Chargers 198 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: look as formidable as any defense you're going to see 199 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: in this league. 200 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get to our keys to victory 201 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: in a moment. But going back, rewinding just a little 202 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: bit to the Chargers offense, I have to say that 203 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: last week we might have seen Dan Campbell, the head 204 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: coach of the Lions, pay the Chargers offense the ultimate 205 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: sign of respect, because you know how Dan Campbell feels 206 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: about his team and his defense, and he's not going 207 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: to sell those guys short for a second. But with 208 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: a buck forty five on the clock in a tie 209 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: game thirty eight to thirty eight, the Lions had a 210 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: fourth and two from the twenty six yard line, so 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: it would have been a forty four yard field goal, 212 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell did not want Justin Herbert to get the 213 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: ball back, so he passed on a forty four yard 214 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: field goal with a buck forty five on the clock, 215 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he went forward on fourth and two, was able to convert, 216 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and then they drained the clock and kicked a forty 217 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: one yard field goals only three yards closer than what 218 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: he had a minute and forty seconds prior, but because 219 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: of the fourth down conversion, they were able to drain 220 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: the clock, hit the forty one yarder as a walk off, 221 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert did not get the ball back. That's 222 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: his biggest sign in respect for that Chargers offense, coming 223 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: from a guy like Dan Campbell who would never want 224 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: to sell his guy short at all. He did not 225 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: want Justin Herbert to get the ball back one more 226 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: time in that game, and he was doing everything he 227 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: could to prevent that. It worked out for the Lions. 228 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: It was a kick in the gut loss for the 229 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Chargers for as big of a day, as big a 230 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: day as they had offensively, and you know, response wise, 231 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting here because Chargers had to 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: feel pretty rotten coming off their home field against the Lions. 233 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, letting that game get away against Detroit. And 234 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: while the Packers certainly didn't feel great about things walking 235 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: off the field in Pittsburgh last week, there were some things, 236 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: as we talked about, to feel better about that the 237 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Packers feel that they can build upon as they get 238 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: now a home game coming up this week. How each 239 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: of these teams sort of responds to, you know, their 240 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: most recent outings last weekend, I think will be very 241 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: interesting to watch well. 242 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: And that's going to be the mentality of both sides. 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: Is that for Green Bays standpoint. If again, if I'm 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, if I'm these young receivers, I watched that film. 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: I try to learn from what happened on those last 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: two series, but really appreciate that we made progress in 247 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: this game where the Chargers are in a tough spots. 248 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: They are a more veteran team. Yes, they've had some 249 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: setbacks with injuries, but they expected to come out and 250 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: compete for a super Bowl this year. They expected to 251 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: be a team that's going to make a plusure for 252 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: a playoffs. And here they are at four and five 253 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: trying to kind of salvage their season and claw it 254 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: out to get into a playoff spot here and what 255 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: is going to be a very competitive AFC playoff picture. Yeah, 256 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know if this bleeds or not. Michael 257 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: into the into my keys for victory. But the thing 258 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: I look at the most of Green Bay is you 259 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: are back at lambeau Field and this is the second 260 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: time this season the Chargers are playing on grass, which 261 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: is just remarkable for how much they've been on turf 262 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: this year. You have to make sure that you take 263 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: advantage of that. Secondly, Green Bay has to run the 264 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: football and they have to defend the run. The Chargers 265 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: do a lot of things great on offense, running the 266 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: ball has not been one of them this year. As 267 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: dynamic as Eckler has been, he hasn't had as much 268 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: production on the ground this year. When they had to 269 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: go to Josh Kelly earlier this year, there wasn't as 270 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: much production there. You have to get Justin Herbert in 271 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: this offense into third and long situations, otherwise you're in 272 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: for a long afternoon. 273 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. I'll take care of some 274 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: sponsor business and then we will dive into those keys 275 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: to victory. A little bit more serious. XM NFL Radio 276 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: news that trooper of ball fanatics need twenty four to 278 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: seven three sixty five. And at Cousin Subbs we have 279 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: something for everyone, like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, 280 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite 281 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs fifty years 282 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: of better. I like what you said about obviously getting 283 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers into third and long. What I want to 284 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: add to that is, I expect, because justin Herbert's a 285 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: guy who's done it his whole career, the Chargers are 286 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna convert some third and longs. You're gonna get them 287 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: in third and ten, and they're gonna move the chains 288 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: because they're gonna have something there. They can be that 289 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: good offensively. I think one of the keys to this 290 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: for green Bay's defense is to is to not ride 291 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: that roller coaster, to not suddenly I guess you know, 292 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: have that big emotional letdown or psychological letdown if you 293 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: do give up a third and long un version. It's like, hey, 294 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: strap it up, here's another series. Let's get him in 295 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: another third down, you know. I mean, that's the mentality 296 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: you have to take because because these guys when they 297 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: get in third and long, they're a little bit they're 298 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: a little bit better. They're more dangerous in that situation 299 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: than a lot of other offenses you might face. I 300 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: guess that's what I'm trying to say. 301 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Keenan Allen's a big reason for that. Yeah, 302 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: he is a human highlight reel. And like I remember, 303 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: we were talking a couple of weeks ago when he 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: had his catch that ended up giving him ten thousand 305 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: career yards for his career. This is just a remarkable talent. 306 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: And the great thing about Alan and what has made 307 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: him adapt so well as as he's gotten older and 308 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: he's had some big injuries too, man, but he's always 309 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: come back and he's evolved, and he's evolved with this 310 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: passing offense, and certainly he's become the focal point without 311 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: having Mike Williams there, and he is a guy that 312 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: is going to help you get right in some of 313 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: those situations. I think they have two really good tight 314 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: ends too, you know, to be honest with you, I 315 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: think Garrett Everett and then Donald param who's like six 316 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: foot eight I. 317 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Watched, Yeah, he's Yeah, he's tall, due. 318 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: He can move some dudes, and also you know he's 319 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: a guy that could be a dangerous threat in the 320 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: red zone. They have weapons to be able to convert 321 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: on you. And I don't know if again if I'm 322 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: going to take this over and make it into one 323 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: of my keys of victory on my own here, but 324 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: the first down conversions I think are going to be 325 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: paramount in this game because when you look at Brandon 326 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Staley's defense, much like with Joe Barry, the whole idea 327 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: there is you don't want to give up the explosive play. Well, 328 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: unfortunately for the Chargers this year, they're giving up more 329 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: first downs than any other team in the league, right 330 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: And when you are when a defense is taken that away, 331 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: whether it's the two shell, whether some of their coverages 332 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: that they're giving you, you have to be able to 333 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: find ways to produce yards. And for Green Bay, I 334 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: think specifically whether it's running the ball, or whether it's 335 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: getting into those third and favorables, matriculating the ball down 336 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: the field to steal a phrase there, and kind of 337 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: working the long way, because when you're going up against 338 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: a team that can convert and can move the ball 339 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: and can score in as many different ways as the 340 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Chargers can offensively, you have to be able to match 341 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: that pace. 342 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what happens 343 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: as far as how the Packers are going to try 344 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to match up against Keenan Allen. Because Jay or Alexander 345 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: at the time we're taping this on Thursday morning, is 346 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: not back on the practice field yet from his shoulder injury. 347 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: He did not practice on Wednesday. Matt Lafleur did not 348 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: sound overly hopeful, not ruling him out yet by any means, 349 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: but wasn't sounding overly hopeful about where things are with 350 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: Alexander this week. So obviously that's going to put again 351 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot on Carrington Valentine, Corey Ballentine. You know you're 352 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: going to have Rudy Ford had played last week but 353 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: then didn't practice on Wednesday, So we're not really sure 354 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: what the Packers' secondary is going to look like here. 355 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: For me, if I'm going to talk keys to victory 356 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: in this game, this just this game just screams at 357 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: me that it's going to be decided in the red zones. 358 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: And I say red zones plural, because I think both 359 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: of these teams are going to move the ball I 360 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: think both of these teams are going to have ample 361 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: scoring opportunities in this game, and I think it's going 362 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: to come down to can the Packers convert enough of 363 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: their opportunities in the red zone into touchdowns and can 364 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: the defense potentially get a couple of stops in the 365 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: red zone to force field goals. I think that's where 366 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: I think that's where this game is going to hinge. 367 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: You know those two third quarter possessions against the Steelers 368 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: last week. The Packers move the ball right down the 369 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: field and you get a first down in the red zone, 370 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: but then suddenly everything stalls out and back to back 371 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: opportunities there you end up settling for field goals. And 372 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: the Packers did use those six points to take the lead. 373 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: But if those six points are possible ten points or 374 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: maybe even fourteen, the whole rest of that second half 375 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh plays out differently. And I think we're going 376 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: to see opportunities in this game against the Chargers where 377 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot is going to be hinging in both directions 378 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: on whether offenses can convert red zone opportunities into touchdowns 379 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: or if the defenses can't get the stops to force 380 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: field goals. I think this game gets decided between the 381 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: twenty yard line and the goal line on both ends 382 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: of the field. 383 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Mike, because Packers, they're going up against 384 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 2: the second ranked red zone offense in the league right 385 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: now in the Chargers, and they actually have a pretty 386 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: darn kicker in Cameron Dicker Dick or the kicker Dick 387 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: or the kicker who again I think has sort of 388 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: helped settle that that spot down for them now and 389 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: has sort of found his way and getting a comfort zone. 390 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: But Green Bay, it's so interesting, like they're twenty seventh 391 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: right now in red zone offense and that that's after 392 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: a few weeks in the beginning of the season where 393 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: they were right up there as one of the top 394 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: of the NFL. So just trying to find that momentum again, 395 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: we've seen it. We saw it at the opening I 396 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: have last week in Pittsburgh and that beautiful throw that 397 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Jordan Love made at the back of the end zone 398 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: to Romeo Dobbs who did the toe tap and got 399 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: the score. Yeah, this offense can do it, but they 400 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: just especially in the fourth quarter, it's been a real 401 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: grind lately. So yeah, I agree with you, probably more 402 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: than anything in this game. Being able to make those 403 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: those long drives and getting all six points out of them, 404 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: that that is going to be pivotal for these offenses. 405 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, looking around the rest of the 406 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: league in week eleven, a couple weeks ago, it turned 407 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: out we were talking about home teams holding serve. Last 408 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: week it turned out we were talking about road teams 409 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: getting big victories. I'm not sure which way it's going 410 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: to go this week, but the games we're going to 411 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: be talking about are the prime time games on the schedule, 412 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: because Thursday night is Cincinnati against Baltimore. Sunday night is 413 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota against Denver, two teams that the Vikings were zero 414 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: and three, the Broncos were one and five, And now 415 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: here it is in week eleven and these two teams 416 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: are playing a game, both of them feeling like they 417 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: are right in the playoff hunt in their respective conferences. 418 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: And then the biggest of the big primetime games this 419 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: week Monday Night football Philadelphia at Kansas City. So with 420 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: that primetime slate on the way here in week eleven, 421 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I'll let you pick which one you want to start with. 422 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: I just always get a kick when you see Philly 423 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: versus Kansas City. I'm just imagining all the guys in 424 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: the New York office back in May or whatever, just 425 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: sitting there like chuckling themselves, like we got that one 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: for November sweeps perfect, the Kelsey Brothers. Wait, Taylor Swift is. 427 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl? Yeah, the Super Bowl rematch and then 428 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: you get the whole Taylor Swift thing thrown out and 429 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: you're thrown in in twenty twenty three that nobody saw coming. 430 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: When you're trying to set commercial ad rates, that's gonna 431 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: be the number one game that you're going to be 432 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: working with. Hey man, Denver, you gotta have Denver. And 433 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: I think if the Broncos this run they've been on, 434 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: if you're a Packers fan, keep it going and seeing 435 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: if they have the magic to solve this Josh Dobbs 436 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: problem that has sort of been its way through the 437 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: National Football League, that is gonna be a huge one. 438 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: I'll be really honest with you, Mike that the Chicago 439 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: game is really interesting to me because at the time 440 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: in which we're taping this, all indications are that Justin 441 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: Fields is going to play in this game. From what 442 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: I've been gathering off of the social media so you know, 443 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: the Bears are still trying to build something here. They're 444 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: still trying to convince themselves that there's the rainbow at 445 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: the end of this thing, whether it's this season or 446 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: next season. And Denver in Detroit is flying about as 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: high as a team can fly right now, and the 448 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: culture's there. I even saw that quip. I think that 449 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs was talking with aman Ross Saint Brown and 450 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: his thirty third Team podcast even saying, you know, David 451 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Montgomery and him talking during the game last week and 452 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 2: Montgomery actually like basically giving Gibbs the play to go 453 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: and score the touchdown on the one yard line when 454 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: originally Montgomery was going to stay in or Gibbs was 455 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: going to come out. They got a good thing going, 456 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: and I think they've proved me wrong to a certain 457 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: extent and where they've been able to take this thing. 458 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: But Chicago Bears, man, and they're another team too that's 459 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: still trying to show that, Hey, you know, there's still 460 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: something to be salvage from the season. This would be 461 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: no better way to do it than going into Detroit 462 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: and finding a win. Yeah. 463 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely, some some good games to uh to pay attention to. 464 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: Obviously next week we'll be on the short week at 465 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: anybody to go to Detroit for Christmas? Christmas for Thanksgiving? 466 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: Where's the I gotta put the money in the jar 467 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: that I got through the show without saying San Diego Chargers, 468 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: and then I blow the holiday anyway. 469 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: It feels like Christmas. Bro. 470 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you the Yeah, I need to I 471 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: need to enjoy this last uh, this last Sunday noon 472 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: kickoff for a while, because uh, things are gonna start to, 473 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: uh start to get a little rougher from a Wit perspective. 474 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: But that being said, what I wanted to alert our 475 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: regular watchers and listeners to is that we will just 476 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: have one episode next week as usual, posted on a Tuesday, 477 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: but then we will not have the usual Thursday episode 478 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: because obviously we'll be in Detroit for Thanksgiving covering the 479 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Packers and the Lions. 480 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking forward to eating my turkey roll with you. 481 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: Before I want to mention one last game, can I 482 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm messing up the floor? 483 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: No? 484 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: No, is there a bigger Week eleven game you can 485 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: think of than the Jets versus the Bills And the 486 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: fact that the Bills made a decision to change their 487 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator going up against one of the best teams 488 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: in their best defense is in the National Football League. Yeah, 489 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: Bills are five and five. They lose that game. They're 490 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: five and six. 491 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: Who Yeah a pressia. Yeah, a team that a fan 492 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: base that has been starving from, you know, for time 493 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: immemorial for a Super Bowl championship, and they've thought the 494 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: last few years they've been right on the edge, right 495 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: on the edge, and now suddenly it looks like they 496 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: could be scrambling just to get into the playoffs in 497 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: the AFC. They the Bills might end up being as 498 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: thankful as anybody that the seventh playoff spot now exists 499 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: in the conference, because it's another opportunity where they can 500 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: try to get themselves in and make a run before 501 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, the proverbia window perhaps starts to starts to 502 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: get a little smaller after the opportunities that have gotten 503 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: away from them recently. 504 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: You and I have a big week. We have this 505 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: game at noon Central time. We will come back. We'll 506 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: have the Packers on Thanksgiving, Yes, and then off into 507 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: the weekend, which will be our last like weekend until the. 508 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the last catch your breath moment until the end 509 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: of the season for us. 510 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Put your seat belt on spots driving. 511 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: Buckle up, folks. All right with that, we'll call it 512 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: a rap. On this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 513 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team. We 514 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: will have everything for you from Sunday's game against the 515 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Chargers the Los Angeles Chargers at lambeau Field. It's all 516 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. 517 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We will see you 518 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: next time.