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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really into stats or anything, but here's a

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Speaker 1: couple of interesting ones. The last four teams Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: has played for started a game four because he started

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Speaker 1: one game for the Niners. His last thirty nine starts,

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Speaker 1: He's thirty and nine. Here's another random stat that just

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Speaker 1: like fell into my hands last night. Sam Darnold became

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Speaker 1: the first quarterback in NFL history to win twelve games

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Speaker 1: back to back season on different teams. Brady didn't do it,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana didn't do it. Farv didn't do it. Slinging

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Speaker 1: Sammy de did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Rams dominated the first three quarters, and Sammy had

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Speaker 1: a couple of bad picks, but the Rams settled for

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Speaker 1: field goals in the red zone. Their special teams are shaky.

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Speaker 1: Four punts by the Rams in the fourth quarter, three

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Speaker 1: straight three and outs. I see Donald as relentless, doesn't pout,

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Speaker 1: doesn't sulk, has a short memory, and he took advantage

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Speaker 3: Games aren't linear.

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Speaker 1: Great first half for certain quarterbacks, bad second half. Been

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Speaker 1: saying that about Bownicks and Caleb Williams all year. I

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Speaker 1: know this, they win a lot, they're great in the

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Speaker 1: fourth and Sam Darnald has always had a little Andrew

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Speaker 1: luck and maybe a little less Brett Farv big arm,

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Speaker 1: big mobility, big playmaker. Wins a lot, and sometimes there's

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Speaker 1: an ugly one or two. But I thought Seattle also overreacted,

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Speaker 1: came in with a ridiculously conservative game plan based on

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Speaker 1: Sam's last game against the Rams. Sam Donald has way

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Speaker 1: too much raw talent to coach him like he's Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: You gotta live with the mistakes. You had to live

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Speaker 1: with the Andrew luckmcstakes. Donald also did this more history

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Speaker 1: last night. Donald converted three two point conversions in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and overtime. No quarterback on a winning team

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Speaker 1: had done that in league history. Slinging Sammy Dee was

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Speaker 1: breaking records last night. He gets credit for that too,

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Speaker 1: not just criticism for the picks. Again, never pouts, doesn't sulk,

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Speaker 1: pump on his fist, takes accountability. He may not win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I mean, Farve only got one, and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck never got to one. He may never win

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. But to deny his talent is being

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Speaker 1: stummered Sam Darnald in the fourth quarter in overtime. Forget

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Speaker 1: the convergence one hundred and five passer rating, big play

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Speaker 1: after big play. And for the record, Donald has really

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Speaker 1: struggled against Chris Shula and the Rams specifically and Chris Shula,

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Many are saying he's going to get

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Speaker 1: a head coaching job. In fact, he will get a

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Speaker 1: head coaching job. He's been there a while last four years.

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Speaker 1: Donald's one and three against the Rams. He's twenty nine

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Speaker 3: So the Rams have given him trouble.

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what Chick gave Donald trouble two when he

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Speaker 3: He came into this league very raw, not.

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Speaker 1: Well coached in college, not great on the white board.

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Speaker 1: But by the time he got to Carolina, that San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: you're just being stubborn right now. The number one seed

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Speaker 1: in the NFC this year, the better conference. Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnald who's won thirty of his last thirty nine starts.

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Speaker 1: They're not always pretty, especially when he faces McVeigh, Shula

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Speaker 4: Our story has stayed the same since day one with Sam.

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody else has different stories, but this is

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Speaker 3: That's Sam.

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Speaker 1: the time. Darnld just doesn't get down. He threw four

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Speaker 3: He is a fox, whole guy, my guy slinging Sammy d.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the.

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Speaker 1: NFC West is crazy to Seattle now leads twelve and three,

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Salary caps mean there are no perfect teams.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got holes. You try to hide the holes. But

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Speaker 1: the La Rams special teams have been an issue all

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Speaker 1: and the Rams are so good in so many areas.

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Speaker 1: They're good in the old line number two pff, they're

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Speaker 1: Noah's Ark. They got two of everything tight ends. But

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Speaker 1: earlier this year they lost to the Niners. Why special

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Speaker 1: teams mister field goal and an extra point? They lost

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Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles. Why remember this block kick? The Niners?

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Speaker 3: Last night?

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Speaker 1: The Seahaw and the Philadelphia Eagles. Those are three of

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Speaker 1: the four losses for the LA Rams, and special teams

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Speaker 3: In the other one, Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Stafford had comeing off game and Bryce Young tore them apart.

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Speaker 1: So they're so good. I mean they've got three to

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Speaker 1: Kyron Williams. Devonte Adams was in there last night that

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Speaker 1: they draft well, they don't miss. Everything works for them offensively,

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Speaker 1: but that special teams unit and that secondary has been

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Speaker 1: costing them games all year and the last several Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champs have not been perfect teams.

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Speaker 3: The Rams are still my pick.

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Speaker 1: To win the Super Bowl, but I will say this,

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Speaker 1: Stafford's not mobile, So when they go three and out,

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Speaker 3: And out in the second half.

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Speaker 1: That's where Josh Allen can pick up first downs with

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Speaker 1: Bowls in the second half when you're off script and

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Speaker 1: the defense has seen all your tricks and all your

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of rough second half, he kind of

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Speaker 1: first downs with his legs, and so I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not blaming him, I'm just saying, is sometimes

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Speaker 1: a Josh Allen or a Mahomes or a Herbert's done

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Speaker 3: You're not getting that with Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: So the special teams in the secondary are a real issue.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford though, four hundred and fifty yards when he

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Speaker 1: is humming, I mean, there's nothing quite like to go

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Speaker 1: to Seattle, that defensive coach, that secondary. Four hundred and

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Speaker 3: Here's Stafford after.

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Speaker 5: Anytime coming here, that defense, you know, one of the best,

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Speaker 5: we were able to do on offense, control the game,

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Speaker 5: you know, and you know, score whatever we score thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: Feel good about it.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, there's you know, a couple of plays we want

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Speaker 3: But I was proud of our effort.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people, myself included a little surprise. The

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Speaker 1: Rams didn't draft a corner last year. Their special teams

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Speaker 1: has lost them three games. That Carolina game, Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: had his highest highest career passer rating game against the Rams,

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Speaker 3: That's what a good pass rush.

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Speaker 1: So the special teams last night the game changed, Rams

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, it's the special teams here we got.

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Speaker 1: Saw it against the Niners, saw it against the Eagles, saw.

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Speaker 3: It last night. It opened the door.

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Speaker 1: And then a couple of three and outs in a row,

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Speaker 1: and Sammy d doing what he does. J Mac, I

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Speaker 1: know you were happy for him. I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm happy that you're happy for him. I just

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Speaker 6: can't believe. Remember, Rashid Shaheed was picked up at the deadline. YEA,

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Speaker 6: think Shaheed had been particularly great with the Seahawks the

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Speaker 6: the kid hording. Yeah, who was showing and then he

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Speaker 3: But that that punt return was everything.

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Speaker 6: And special teams, as you noted going into the game

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Speaker 6: con the Rams had the fewest madefield goals in the league.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about a league where Brandon Aubrey and Cameron Dickers,

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Speaker 6: these guys are automatic.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice McVeigh early on deep in his own territory.

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Speaker 3: We're going for it. I mean, the Rams came in.

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Speaker 1: Their takeaway is they're trying to mitigate how bad their

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Speaker 1: special teams are, so they're they're they're being hyghper aggressive,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, analytically is the right thing to

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Speaker 1: do because they're so stacked on offense. But I mean

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Speaker 1: they go for it a lot of it, just they

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Speaker 1: just don't trust their special teams.

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Speaker 3: Let me just ask you. This is a tough question,

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Speaker 6: Don't want people to freak out, But Colin, after that

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Speaker 6: game in Seattle, Rams led by sixteen with eight minutes left,

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Speaker 6: Seattle wins. Who do you feel is the better team

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Speaker 6: going into the playoffs? Rams or Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: I think the Rams high end is better. They did

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Speaker 3: Devonte Adams.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Okay, so the coach, I'd go and I love Seattles,

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Speaker 1: I'd go Rams. The quarterback, I'd go Rams. Offensive line,

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Speaker 1: I'd go Rams. Receiving targets, total, Rams, defensive front slight Rams.

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Speaker 1: The Rams out played them for three quarters. But again,

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Speaker 1: the Rams have a hole with special teams that the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks don't have. And the Seahawks secondary, I think is

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Speaker 1: pretty good. That's why the Puka Stafford combination last night's crazy,

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Speaker 1: because that's Seahawks secondary is super talented.

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Speaker 6: Guys. McDonald is a sharp guy. Why did he keep

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Speaker 6: job is sewed up against Puka? He had no chance

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Speaker 6: All right, Colin, we got to talk about that wacky, crazy,

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Speaker 3: You gotta win that game. Guys. You know, it's just

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Speaker 6: It just feels like there needs some clarity.

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Speaker 3: But keep an eye. We talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Purdy and the San Francisco forty nine ers Colin

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Speaker 1: Is that insane that the Niners can be forget a

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Speaker 3: I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I think this morning are still a little super Bowl favorites?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but this the NFC West is

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: To the NBA.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the basketball happened last night. The Lakers didn't play

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Speaker 6: Luca Legend took over forty five points, fourteen assists, eleven rebounds,

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Speaker 1: in the league.

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Speaker 3: Are gonna mention that?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you just did so no deed for me,

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Speaker 6: A pylon a win is a win, baby. Yeah, So listen,

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to give you an opportunity to say

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Speaker 6: nice stuff about Luka.

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Speaker 1: Doncic is the I've said he is the world's best

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Speaker 1: offensive basketball player, no question he is. He is a

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Speaker 1: combination of He's for the record, skinny, Luca is also

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Speaker 1: getting to the basket more, as you know. So he

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Speaker 1: last year he settled for a lot of stuff leaning away.

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Speaker 1: He's getting to the basket. He's finishing at the rim.

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Speaker 1: So that this version of Luca, which is what we

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Speaker 1: saw the first three years before he got banged up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, put on some weight. It's he is

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Speaker 1: an all time great offensive player. I've said before, I

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Speaker 1: think he's a way better version of Carmelo Anthony. But

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Speaker 1: for Carmelo Anthony, I didn't think was a winning player.

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Speaker 1: But Carmelo was gonna get his twenty seven a night

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Speaker 1: like some guys can just get a bucket. And Luca's

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Speaker 1: the best in the world at that Right now.

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Speaker 6: I think Christmas Night, I believe it's Lakers Rockets.

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Speaker 3: So I'm and Thompson one of the best.

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Speaker 6: Defenders in the last against Luca. That should be really fun, obviously.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Durant Lebron Yeah.

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd

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Speaker 2: Line News.

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Speaker 3: So you know it is.

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Speaker 1: I could make an argument Matt Stafford is the last

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Speaker 1: great pure pocket passer in the NFL. Yes, he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of support. I mean three different tight ends

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Speaker 1: for the Rams. Three had multiple catches. They are again

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Speaker 1: Noah's Ark, two backs, two receivers. The Rams don't miss

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Speaker 1: on draft picks. They had a seventh round rookie last night,

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Speaker 1: Connada Mumfield.

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Speaker 3: He was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Three big cat so I mean it's Blake Krum, It's

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Speaker 1: Kyron Williams.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Whittingham's a six round wide receiver. They don't miss

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Speaker 1: on draft picks. But I'll tell you this, nine different

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Speaker 1: guys caught a pass is They always use that term

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Speaker 1: arm talent. It was on display last night in high

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Speaker 1: leverage situations. The side arms stuff great touch down, the sideline,

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Speaker 1: no look stuff, deep ball ease. By the way, there's

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Speaker 1: another receiver may have been an undrafted one. Yes, Pooka

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Speaker 1: is great, but he's a fifth rounder. So there are

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Speaker 1: just Matt Stafford does stuff arm wise that other people

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Speaker 1: just can't and don't do. And I do think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say this. This is not a criticism. It's

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Speaker 1: a reality. He is the last great pocket passer. It

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Speaker 1: is sometimes a reality that in a second half where

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been so great, you know Josh can

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Speaker 1: just say I'm gonna pick up first downs. Herbert's done that,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts can do that. You know Sam Donold can

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Speaker 1: do that. Stafford's got to make Hay from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: And I've thrown this out there and I said this

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Speaker 1: three or four years ago. What happens off this MVP

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Speaker 1: level season. If he wins a second Super Bowl, you

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Speaker 1: start looking at that resume with he and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but to be in your late thirties, not

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Speaker 1: be mobile in the game today, and to be putting

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Speaker 1: up the numbers.

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Speaker 3: Last night was the eighth game this season.

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Speaker 1: Three touchdowns, no picks against Mike McDonald, that defense, that

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Speaker 1: rush on the road. What is he right now? Forty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: five picks. That is insane and arguably the best division

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Speaker 1: in football. So he is not, just to remind you of,

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Speaker 1: he is athletically the opposite of Josh Allen. We looked

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Speaker 1: it up. He is not rushed for a single first

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Speaker 1: down this season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and to be.

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Speaker 1: And everybody knows it. The whole league knows where he's

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Speaker 1: going to be one second after the snap. The whole

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Speaker 1: league knows where he's going to be standing. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: got McVeigh and Pooka and the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: The PFF loves their old eye.

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Speaker 1: I'm not denying that. In the Rams don't miss a

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Speaker 1: lot of picks. But a god reached down at some

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Speaker 1: point and he blessed Nolan Ryan, Justin Verlander and Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford's arm. Here was Stafford on the loss in the

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Speaker 1: playoff picture.

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Speaker 3: Go play where are we playing? Who we play?

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Speaker 10: And put the ball down, prepare, go play. That's the

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Speaker 10: attitude this team's had this day one. This the attitude

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Speaker 10: we're going to have to the last game we play

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Speaker 10: this year. Listen, respect, everybody, fear, nobody.

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Speaker 3: Go play.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has four thirty one first downs from rushing.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford as zero, and it is a disadvantage. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's always been the knock on golf. You know where

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be one second after the snap, go pursue

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Speaker 1: that area. We same thing with Stafford and it's forty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: five picks.

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Speaker 3: The guy is just an all tat.

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Speaker 1: He is arm talent when people use that term. And

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Speaker 1: these receivers. Pukah's fifth, I'm not sure if that guy

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Speaker 1: was drafted. Wittingham is sixth. Most of the tight ends

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Speaker 1: are mid round guys, even Kyra and Williams. The running back,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a fourth rounder. They're not doing it

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Speaker 1: with these glossy you know Calvin Johnson that was with

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Speaker 1: him in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: What a show by Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 3: What's better than a Saturday?

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Speaker 6: How about a Super Saturday with an NFL doubleheader. First

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Speaker 6: it's Eagles versus Commanders, Then the Packers take on the

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Speaker 6: Bears for control of the NFC North. Pregame coverage begins

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Speaker 6: at four pm Eastern tomorrow on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the Eagles Commanders is interesting because, as

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Speaker 1: you noted and Greg Cosel noted, it looks like Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: they may run the ball more is Philadelphia going to

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Speaker 1: get it right? They play the Commanders twice, so both

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Speaker 1: those games are interesting. So the college football Playoffs starts tonight,

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Speaker 1: and I thought i'd just lay out my picks. The

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Speaker 1: hardest pick for me is the game tonight Alabama Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one, but just let me lay out

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Speaker 1: how I think it works out. So in the first round,

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Speaker 1: I think Oregon beats James Madison handily. The group of

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Speaker 1: five teams are zero to two in the playoffs, both

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Speaker 1: losses seventeen plus points. I mean, the only loss for

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Speaker 1: Oregon this year was to Indiana, who maybe the best

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Speaker 1: team in the country. So Dante More, they're healthier now

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver. I don't think this one's terribly close.

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Speaker 1: I like Oregon easily. I'm gonna take Oklahoma close over Alabama.

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Speaker 1: They have the better defense, they're at home, they can

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Speaker 1: run the ball a little day have won four straight game.

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Speaker 1: The Sooners have won four straight, including three against ranked teams.

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Speaker 1: Again at home, better defense, a little better running game.

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Speaker 1: Alabama in back to back games. It kind of feels

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Speaker 1: like we've seen Alabama what they can do and it's

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Speaker 1: basically pass. The good news is if Alabama's down in

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Speaker 1: the second half, they're built to come from behind because

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Speaker 1: of their quarterback and their three really good receivers. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Old Miss over Tulane. Not difficult. Tulane's got

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Speaker 1: the worst point differential in yardage differential of anybody in

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Speaker 1: the playoff. Now I Old Miss, no Lane Kiffin. Are

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Speaker 1: they going to be distracted? I don't think Old Miss

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Speaker 1: will be great. I think Old Miss could lose this

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Speaker 1: game against a lot of teams. They're not losing it

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Speaker 1: against Tulane. I'm gonna take the upset here. Miami defeats

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Speaker 1: Texas A. I know, I know it's a home game

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Speaker 1: for the Aggies, but Miami had the best point differential

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Speaker 1: in the ACC. They were on a heater at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Miami's a young team getting better.

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Speaker 1: They have a very good O line D line combination.

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Speaker 1: I trust their quarterback here, Carson Beck Malachi Tony. That

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Speaker 1: freshman is maybe the best player on the field at

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Speaker 1: different times. Miami with an upset over an m quarterfinals.

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Speaker 1: Another upset Texas Tech over Oregon. I think everybody's sleeping

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Speaker 1: on Texas Tech. They had the number one scoring offense. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they played in a weaker conference, but all twelve of

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Speaker 1: their wins this season came by twenty two plus points,

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Speaker 1: so they dragged the teams they played. They'll come in

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Speaker 1: an underdog. Everybody's going to be sleeping on them. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Texas Tech upset against Oregon. I think Indiana

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Speaker 1: is just a better team than Oklahoma, a much better offense.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti is twenty four and two. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing for Indiana. And let's be honest about Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Their offense is a struggle, and they're doing it with defense,

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Speaker 1: and they're doing it with toughness. I think they'll meet

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Speaker 1: their match in Indiana. I like Georgia to defeat Ole Miss.

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Speaker 1: Georgia has a nine game winning streak and coming off

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Speaker 1: a twenty one point win over Alabama. I think they

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Speaker 1: have better personnel. I think they're better upfront defensively, I

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Speaker 1: think Old Miss, if Lane Kiffen was there, would play

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Speaker 1: a really loose style game with a lot of tricks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna get from Ole Miss.

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Speaker 1: I think their season ends here. I'm gonna take Ohio

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Speaker 1: State over Miami. You're not gonna run the ball much

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Speaker 1: on Ohio State, so number one scoring defense. I think

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck's gonna have to have one of his great games,

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Speaker 1: probably his best game as a collegiate, to win that game.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, let's be fair about Ohio State. They've

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Speaker 1: won sixteen of their last seventeen games and had a

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Speaker 1: chance to beat Indiana, who could be the best team

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Speaker 1: in the country.

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: We go to the semifinals, I think Indiana defeats Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech did not have a terribly difficult schedule. Indiana's

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Speaker 1: was much tougher. They won at Oregon, they beat Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: so I think Indiana is more battle tested, And then

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State will beat Georgia. Georgia had a

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Speaker 1: lot of close wins. Tennessee was a close win Florida

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Speaker 1: Georgia tech Ole, Miss. So this is a very good

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Speaker 1: Georgia team. It's not Georgia three years ago, four years

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Speaker 1: ago Georgia. And then I think Ohio State and Indiana,

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Speaker 1: two big ten teams, beat again. I think it's close again.

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Speaker 1: One of the star pass rushers for the Hoosiers is

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Speaker 1: we know that out. I think it's really really hard

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Speaker 1: to be the great staff, Ryan Day and Matt Patricia

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Speaker 1: and a loaded roster. Two times we said this last year.

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Speaker 1: Oregon beat Ohio State last year, and then Ohio State

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Speaker 1: thumped them the second time. I don't think Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: gonna thump Indiana. But my guess this is where it

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Speaker 1: lands again. I think the Alabama Oklahoma game is the

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Speaker 1: toughest one to call. Alabama's got no run game, Oklahoma's

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Speaker 1: offense is limited. It could be very, very low scoring.

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Speaker 1: My guess it is it's a field goal game. Jmak

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty clear cut that there's a top four

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Speaker 6: teams and then Oregon right after that. It's you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of a crapshoot. If Notre Dame were here, they'd

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Speaker 6: be a threat. I just it's tough for me to

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Speaker 6: go against much of this. I did bet Miami, I

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Speaker 6: did take two points with JMU, but they're winning in Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be impossible.

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Speaker 6: I guess the only quibble I would have is I

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Speaker 6: would keep an eye.

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Speaker 3: On Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you sold me on them earlier. And I do

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Speaker 6: wonder if Indiana peaked early with the Big Ten championship.

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Speaker 6: They felt like they won the Super Bowl right the

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Speaker 6: reaction on the field. I know they've had some time.

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Speaker 6: We'll see how they react. But yeah, Ohios take going

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Speaker 6: back to back, Colin. That would be three straight Big

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Speaker 6: Ten champs.

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Speaker 1: Well, not only that, but what if the Hoosiers and

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Speaker 1: the Buckeyes end up in the championship three straight and

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Speaker 1: you're getting two Big Ten teams vying for it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we said this when NIL hit. This was my big prediction.

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Speaker 1: I said, it's the wild wild West. Eventually they'll put

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Speaker 1: guardrails on the nil, I said, but there's just more money.

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Speaker 1: The Big ten schools now with Oregon and Phil Knight Seattle,

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Speaker 1: big money, usc big money. The Big Ten's got more money.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban has referenced this a lot of the SEC

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Speaker 1: schools are smaller schools, and often a very well to

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Speaker 1: do car dealer is your second biggest booster. It's more

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Speaker 1: car makers in the big ten. You've got so much

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Speaker 1: money at Michigan, Ohio State USC for the record, Mark Cuban,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's the Ross family at Indiana. So

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Speaker 1: the big ten schools are massive. They pour out all

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Speaker 1: sorts of graduates to the coast and they give back

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Speaker 1: to their schools. So Nick Saban's pointed this out. Everybody

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Speaker 1: can pay. The big ten schools have more money.

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Speaker 6: So let me ask you, let's spin this forward. I

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Speaker 6: was talking with a college football gambler, a big one

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Speaker 6: about this. Let's say Alabama loses to Oklahoma and they say,

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Speaker 6: Michigan says we're going after Kayland Boor and they get

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Speaker 6: Kaylen de Bor. Yeah, what does Alabama do?

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Speaker 3: Colin?

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Speaker 6: Because I know for a long time Dabosweeney at Clemson

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Speaker 6: has been the guy allegedly is Alabama an upgrade from Clemson?

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Speaker 8: Right now?

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Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that. Well, because like

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Speaker 6: you said, the nil has changed so much. I don't

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Speaker 6: know that Alabama's just going to be able to.

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Speaker 1: Go well, Alabama is still a very good job, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Burns a great ad, and they'll find somebody.

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Speaker 3: There's always a coach out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the transfer portal doesn't even open up till

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Speaker 1: I think it's January now.

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Speaker 3: So you've got time.

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Speaker 1: The NIL has changed that you don't have to necessarily

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Speaker 1: hire a coach immediately after the season. You take a

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Speaker 1: deep breath, let the playoff play out. But I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: Penn State found Matt Campbell late. That is a huge hit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Galen doesn't be on this is you know, it

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Speaker 6: would be done a deathnel to Alabama, but it would

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Speaker 6: be devastating Alabama.

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Speaker 3: It will always be good.

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Speaker 1: I think going forward, they got the right ad in

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Speaker 1: the right pl they're gonna be good.

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Speaker 6: But they also have the kind of crazy fan base,

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Speaker 6: you know, like you know, that's a thing. Michigan's fans

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Speaker 6: are passionate intents. It's different in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: Michigan has a top ten endowment in the country. SODA's

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I'll say this if Texas and Texas A and

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Speaker 1: M were not in the SEC, because that's Texas money.

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Speaker 1: That's a different economy. Nick Saban pointed this out years

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Speaker 1: ago when he was at Alabama still and he faced

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Speaker 1: Texas and Sark he started complaining, as nil thing, It's

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Speaker 1: just why we better get guardrails. Nick new Nick called

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton get me on TV. He knew that Alabama

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Speaker 1: couldn't go toe to toe with Texas and Texas and

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Speaker 1: and they can't. And they're not going to go to

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Speaker 1: tote with Ohio state money or Michigan money, or USC

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Speaker 1: money or Oregon money. They can't. Consistently they can't. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. I want to talk. We say this

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Speaker 1: all the time. One of the advantages the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: have and the Rams have they have very wealthy owners

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Speaker 1: and they're very aggressive. I talked about this yesterday Seattle

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Speaker 1: GM John Snyder, he's a friend of mine, was with

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Speaker 1: him last night.

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Speaker 3: He's a sharp dude.

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Speaker 1: That punt return last night by Rashid Shahed that changed

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Speaker 1: the momentum of the game. You're like, wow, if they

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Speaker 1: can get one stop and get the ball back. He

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Speaker 1: also had a very key end around thirty one yard

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Speaker 1: puer speed. Two huge plays by his former New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 1: and again this is what a Cincinnati doesn't do. A clever,

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Speaker 1: savvy trade deadline move. They cave up a couple of

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Speaker 1: mid late round picks. So many gms either sit on

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Speaker 1: their hands or wildly overswing. This was a great pickup

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Speaker 1: a home run hitter, you know, jet sweeps, end around

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Speaker 1: punt return and a deep threat and they didn't give

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Speaker 1: up a ton for it. And the other move that

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Speaker 1: happened at the trade deadline. Jacoby Myers for the Jags,

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Speaker 1: I think I just read this morning. They're signing him

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Speaker 1: to a three year deal. That has turned around the

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Speaker 1: Jag season. That Jacoby Myers. Remember when Bill Belichick let

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Speaker 1: him go, Me, you and everybody in the world.

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Speaker 3: Went, why is your best receiver? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You can barely draft offensive players. Once you get one,

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Speaker 1: don't let him go, Raiders, let him go. Jacoby Meyer's

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Speaker 1: been outstanding, so Jacoby Myers, AFC, NFC Rashid Sahed. That's

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Speaker 1: what savvy general managers do. And you know, we all

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Speaker 1: know there's gaps, some crazy owners and great ones, gaps

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Speaker 1: and head coaches and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows that there's.

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Speaker 1: A Grand Canyon gap in what the Cincinnaties of the

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Speaker 1: world do and what Seattle and Philly and the Rams

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Speaker 1: do in the front office's a great GM. Philadelphia's got

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Speaker 1: a great GM. Rams do. We've said Rams went and

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Speaker 1: got Debonni Adams. A lot of other teams go to

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Speaker 1: ad him, Nate Lanman, He's been unbelievable for them. Here's

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Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed on the punk return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 11: Based on the field position, we knew we were going

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Speaker 11: to be able to get a return. We've been focused

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Speaker 11: on that left return field return all week. We knew

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Speaker 11: that they had kind of a weak point with their

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Speaker 11: special teams, and you know we were able to circle

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Speaker 11: the part team and make a big play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, and referencing again. We knew the Rams were

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Speaker 1: not good on special teams. So when I was watching

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Speaker 1: that game last night, the first three quarters, my opinion was,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Rams are better, They just have more depth.

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Speaker 1: And then I watched this and went, oh, you got

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Speaker 1: to be kidding me. Niners game, Ego game, seat game.

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Speaker 1: And then the end a round and you could just

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Speaker 1: feel the momentum changing. And you know, this is why

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Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. Front off and

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Speaker 1: general managers matter a lot. I saw a story yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Here you go, you got the Bears today. Like on

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Speaker 1: the eve of planning the Packers, and yesterday the story breaks.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Bears may build a new stadium in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: The Bears owners are barely billionaires, a bunch of kids, mccaskey's,

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Speaker 1: you know, bad timing, just so clumsy. Ben Johnson to me,

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Speaker 1: there's your MVP of the league. Don't forget what we

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Speaker 1: thought of upstairs and the ownership of the Bears. But

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Speaker 1: that announced me yesterday was so weak