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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Tuesday edition of Just the

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Speaker 1: All right, President Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill has finally

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Speaker 1: made it through the Senate, but not without a few

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Speaker 1: hiccups along the way, and it will now head back

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Speaker 1: to the House of Representatives where they will look to

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Speaker 1: get a pass and on President Trump's desk before the

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Speaker 1: July deadline. And they don't have very long to get

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Speaker 1: that done, do they. And President Trump addressed it on

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Speaker 1: Addressed at All on the way back from his trip

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Speaker 1: to Alligator Alcatraz in Florida, which I'll get into in

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Speaker 1: just a minute, but first take a look at how

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Speaker 1: President Trump reacted after after the One Big Beautiful Bill

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Speaker 1: announcement came to him of it passing through the Senate.

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Speaker 3: We got there, we got pretty much went on.

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Speaker 4: That's been amazing, the biggest bill ever passed.

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Speaker 5: If we get this done, you know, most of the

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Speaker 5: one at seven or eight different films, And I thought

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Speaker 5: that was tough for because they'd be one hundred percent

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Speaker 5: that they'd be done.

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Speaker 3: They'd just bill has something for everybody by doing it

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Speaker 3: just so we're happy, happy.

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Speaker 1: With the result, and considering the process of getting just

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Speaker 1: this one bill through the House and the Senate, I

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Speaker 1: think he's probably not wrong on the linky process that

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Speaker 1: would have taken with eight bills or so. All right now,

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Speaker 1: The up no votes on the bill were comprised of

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Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul from Kentucky, Main Senator Susan Collins, and

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Speaker 2: All of those are likely suspects.

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Speaker 1: It's also likely that the OBBB will pass the House

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Speaker 1: in the next day or two, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that there's no more drama surrounding the bill. Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: and President Trump are going at it again as it

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Speaker 1: seems that their social media ceasefire has officially ended.

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Speaker 2: Musk has been posting.

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Speaker 1: A lot about the bill again and again bringing up

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Speaker 1: that a new political party should be formed to tackle

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Speaker 1: America's debt.

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Speaker 2: He would call it the America.

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Speaker 1: Party, and before heading to Alligator Alcatraz earlier this morning,

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Speaker 1: President Trump criticized Musk criticism criticism.

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Speaker 6: Proper, give me a lot of bugs.

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Speaker 7: I think you know, he's upset that he's losing his

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Speaker 7: TV mandate and lu succept.

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Speaker 5: Ken he's very upset about, tell you, but you.

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Speaker 4: Know, you can lose a lot more than that.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you, right, a lot more than that.

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Speaker 1: Something tells me that we're probably going to be hearing

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Speaker 1: a little bit more from both of these gentlemen in

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Speaker 1: the future. And we have just one more story to

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Speaker 1: get to involving President Trump. He visited what the administration

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Speaker 1: has dubbed Alligator Alcatraz earlier today with former Governor Ron

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Speaker 1: De Santis, or with Florida Governor Ronda Santis and DHS

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Speaker 1: Secretary Christy Nome in tow and The site used to

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Speaker 1: around very quickly into an immigration detention center that is

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Speaker 1: intended to hold up to five thousand illegals awaiting deportation,

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Speaker 1: and the President was in quite a good mood as

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Speaker 1: he toured the facility. Here he is answering a question

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Speaker 4: Viewers and whole should note that this is air conditioned facility.

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Speaker 4: So if any of the news claims are keeping him

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Speaker 4: out in the hot human South Florida, that is wrong.

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Speaker 4: He's probably sixty two and three here to be on.

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Speaker 8: So hey, Biden wanted me in here. Okay, he wanted me.

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Speaker 8: It didn't work out that way, but he wanted me

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Speaker 1: I can assure you that, compared to outside, inside of

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the one big, beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 1: And I think my first guest of the night is

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Speaker 1: Ping pong, ping pong, back and forth as they deliberate.

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Speaker 1: All right, joining us now representing the great state of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: Congressman and Glenn Growthman, Congressman, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: For being here than you be on the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, sir, so from what you have heard of

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Speaker 1: sticks out in your mind that you're thinking to yourself,

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Speaker 1: we got to tackle this, we got to put this

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Speaker 2: Anything like that, Get Matt.

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Speaker 7: You've got to remember when it first came out of

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Speaker 7: the House, it only passed by one vote. I think

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Speaker 7: the consensus of people conservatives in the House is the

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Speaker 4: There are some things we knew we're going to be

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Speaker 7: We all know we're going to extend the tax cuts

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Speaker 4: We all know there's going to be no.

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Speaker 8: Tax on tips or no tax on overtime.

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Speaker 7: We all knew that there was going to be more

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Speaker 7: money for the border. The question is other than that,

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Speaker 7: us feel right now we're disappointed. As you know, I've

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Speaker 7: been kind of focusing on something called the Earned income

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Speaker 7: we are paying developers seventy percent.

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Speaker 4: Of the cost of their unit. I mean that some of.

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Speaker 7: These other tax cuts, these green tax tax credits, we

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Speaker 7: apartment building, which is ridiculous. And because of that, there

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Speaker 8: Just unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: You have a horrible program like this, obviously it should disappear.

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Speaker 8: They want to spend still more.

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Speaker 7: They look at this ridiculous program that's can cost over

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Speaker 8: They say it's got to go up.

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Speaker 7: So that's the type of thing that I think has

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Speaker 4: Got to straighten things out.

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Speaker 7: And if that takes another couple of weeks, it takes

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Speaker 7: another couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is such a sizeable portion of the

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Speaker 1: when it comes to these new housing units.

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Speaker 2: What's the justification for that?

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Speaker 1: Why does anyone think that the federal government should pay

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Speaker 7: Yes, a lot of politicians forget how hard people work

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Speaker 8: They just figure it's free money and they don't care

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Speaker 7: Or maybe the lobbyists just did a good job of

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Speaker 4: Why do we build more apartments like this?

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Speaker 7: And the fact that seventy percent of it is paid

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Speaker 8: All of a sudden, the politician forgets that, which happens.

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Speaker 7: Way too much and that's why, of course that provision

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Speaker 7: congressmen who wanted to expand that program, they were not

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Speaker 7: thinking how hard the taxpayer worked. We should not be

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Speaker 7: daging over a million dollars a unit for new construction,

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Speaker 8: On projects that are supposed to be for low in

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I hear you, and I can feel your emotion

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Speaker 1: in it, because it is just so nonsensical.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of non.

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Speaker 7: Sense, remember they're selling you this as a conservative bill.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, I know, and I mean it's gallows humor.

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Speaker 1: I suppose, because I think I think you're exactly right

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Speaker 1: about that. But speaking of nonsensical, Senator Chuck Schumer said

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Speaker 1: this earlier about the bill. He said, today Senate Republicans

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Speaker 1: And then he said people will die, kids will go hungry.

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Speaker 2: But who what is he talking about?

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Speaker 8: There's no danger of kid dying.

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Speaker 7: And if he's worried about what's going on abroad, he's

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Speaker 7: But there was a lot of waste in the foreign

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Speaker 7: something to be better off if we didn't spend the

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Speaker 7: this government. We've got to remember what doge I'm covered

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Speaker 7: that right now, we're borrowing twenty six percent of our

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Speaker 7: at Schumer and say, hey, we're borrowing twenty six percent

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Speaker 7: of our budget. One out of every seven of your

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Speaker 7: tax dollars is going for interest expense. How much longer

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Speaker 7: do they think this is going to continue and America

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Speaker 7: still be a great country. I mean, these people, they

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Speaker 7: complain about everything like it's the end of the world,

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Speaker 7: and I do not think anybody is going to be

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Speaker 7: going without food at all, even remotely. As a matter

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Speaker 7: of I think right now, there's probably more food out

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Speaker 7: there than necessary. Whatever we throw away something on the

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Speaker 7: order of I think thirty percent of the food in America,

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Speaker 7: and you know, food stamps, school lunch, all that stuff continues.

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Speaker 1: Congerson, I suppose you and I are doing quite a

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Speaker 1: bit of piling on when it comes to the negatives

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Speaker 2: But there've got to be.

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Speaker 1: Some positives because you voted for it. What are some

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Speaker 1: of the highlights in this I know, obviously border security,

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Speaker 1: this is a historic commitment towards that.

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Speaker 2: But what are some of the good things.

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Speaker 7: We have to continue the tax cuts that we're put

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Speaker 7: in effect in twenty seventy, because not to continue the

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Speaker 7: And it's a continuation of this idea of we hate

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Speaker 7: It comes from spoiled people who think they're always going

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to just the News, no Noise. The one

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Speaker 2: And that begs the question, what are the actual pros.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to start.

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Speaker 1: Let's start at budgeting one oh one, because I think

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Speaker 10: So this is something that's called a reconciliation bill, and

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Speaker 10: They're trying to meet that July fourth deadline. But I

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Speaker 10: a way, SALT allows irresponsible government spending at the state level.

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Speaker 10: And for those folks that are still in the high

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Speaker 10: tax states, I would say, like you know, many of

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Speaker 10: my friends and family in New York, it's not the

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Speaker 10: federal government's fault. It's not Washington's fault that your state

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Speaker 10: tax bill is bigger. It's Albany's fault. The state governments

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Speaker 10: need to rein in spending just as much as DC does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I hate to talk about the obvious,

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Speaker 1: but when it comes, I mean, if you've got a

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Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars cap on state and local taxes, anyone

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Speaker 1: who's paying forty thousand dollars just in state and local taxes,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're doing just fine.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they don't need the deductions to begin with.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's the That's the difficult thing is, of course

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Speaker 10: a dollar goes only goes so far in certain states.

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Speaker 10: It goes much farther in low tax states than it

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Speaker 10: doesn't higher tax states. And you know, it's like I

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Speaker 10: can you can kind of feel the sympathy if you

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Speaker 10: hear from folks that they're losing, they're losing money, they're

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Speaker 10: not being able to keep their harder and money. But

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Speaker 10: that should translate into pressure on state and local governments

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Speaker 10: to budget more responsibly and at best, you know, the

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Speaker 10: folks that are being hit by salt. You knows, salt

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Speaker 10: is at best a band aid, but for those folks

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Speaker 10: that are really being hit. But ultimately, again it's hurting

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Speaker 10: the majority of Americans. It's the majority of Americans covering

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Speaker 10: the tax bills of folks, of wealthy folks in high

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Speaker 10: tags and spending states.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, as a Californian, I don't expect Gavin Newsom or

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Speaker 1: anybody in Sacramento to have any type of come to

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Speaker 1: Jesus moment when it comes to budgeting. But I guess

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Speaker 1: we can certainly hope that the pressure would be put on.

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Speaker 1: All right, the ugly part of this that I mean

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Speaker 1: this is this is a big piece of legislation. It

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Speaker 1: is in the name of the bill, big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: So there's obviously going to be a lot of compromise.

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Speaker 1: It means diluting some of the meaningful reforms Medicaid, reducing

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Speaker 1: green energy subsidies, what happened to all of that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it obviously is not as potent as it was before.

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Speaker 10: Well, like you said, you know these bills, you any

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Speaker 10: piece of legislation, but especially the large pieces there. You know,

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Speaker 10: legislation in this country requires compromise to get across the

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Speaker 10: finish line.

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Speaker 4: And so there are going to be.

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Speaker 10: Members of both Houses of Congress that aren't quite happy

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Speaker 10: with the you know, with the straightforward cuts. So they're

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Speaker 10: going to want to water stuff down or add things here,

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Speaker 10: or extend the timeline on these certain things. But you know,

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Speaker 10: I think it was really interesting that even with the

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Speaker 10: watering down of those Medicaid reforms, speaking of speaking of

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Speaker 10: Governor Newsom, I was surprised to see that this week California, Illinois, Minnesota,

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Speaker 10: and Washington d c ended Medicaid coverage for illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 10: and California was even talking about adding a premium for

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Speaker 10: Medicaid on legal.

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Speaker 4: Immigrants, and I think that show.

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Speaker 10: Oh it was really the states, like you had mentioned,

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Speaker 10: Of all places, I'm surprised California's having this commed the

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Speaker 10: Jesus moment where they're realizing that, whether it happens in

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Speaker 10: this bill or sometime in the near future, Medicaid cuts

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Speaker 10: are coming. So they would rather make those Medicaid changes

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Speaker 10: on their own terms than have some surprise rug pull

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Speaker 10: happened to them when the federal government says, hoops, we

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Speaker 10: can't afford to keep things going the way they are.

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Speaker 10: We need to adjust the matching rate, and the states

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Speaker 10: need to pick up more of the bill. So that

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Speaker 10: was you know, I was surprised, but at the very least,

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Speaker 10: it's good to see folks in these high good to seeing,

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Speaker 10: of all places, California, it's good to see them waking

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Speaker 10: up in Sacramento to this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, California had a twelve billion dollar deficit that was

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Speaker 1: ever increasing, so you know, they claim to have sympathy

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Speaker 1: for illegal immigrants, but I guess they had to put

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Speaker 1: a price tag on that sympathy and turns out as

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Speaker 1: twelve billion dollars. So yes, Economist Thomas Savage, this was

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Speaker 1: such a great conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, everybody after the break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: The fight against woke capitalism is just escalated. The American

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Speaker 1: Conservative Values Fund, or ACVF for short, is a proudly

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Speaker 1: anti woke investment fund traded on the New York Stock Exchange,

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Speaker 1: and they are taking Airbnb to court after the company

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Speaker 1: shut down a shareholder proposal that dared to challenge its

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Speaker 1: political agenda, backed by Heritage by the Heritage Foundation, the

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Speaker 1: lawsuit argues that Airbnb broke the rules by refusing to

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Speaker 1: let shareholders even vote on a simple request, which was

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Speaker 1: basically just to stop playing politics and focus on running

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Speaker 1: the business.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that. So joining us now is William Flag.

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Speaker 1: He's the founder and CEO of the American Conservative Value

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Speaker 1: Fun William, thanks.

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Speaker 2: So much for being here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, Amanda.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I want to actually go to the

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Speaker 1: origins story of this lawsuit because there had to have

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Speaker 1: been some instances, some pseudo scandals or whatever with Airbnb

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Speaker 1: that caused a shareholder or shareholders to bring up the

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Speaker 1: point that they should not be politicized.

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Speaker 2: Did that happen, Yes, I mean there's.

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Speaker 6: A couple of instances a few years back, a few

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Speaker 6: years back where we became concerned that they were using

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Speaker 6: their matching system, which is essentially kind.

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Speaker 4: Of a.

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Speaker 6: Credit score, if you will, for the people renting and

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Speaker 6: the people renters, and that algorithm has the ability to

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Speaker 6: discriminate against politically conservative people. That ability decriminate events do

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Speaker 6: you want anyone, But our concern is that it could

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Speaker 6: be used, you know, for that purpose, and there was

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Speaker 6: some evidence that that appeared to be the case, and

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Speaker 6: that's kind of why we took the action we did

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Speaker 6: to submit the proposal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So tell us about this lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: What exactly are you guys targeting and what's the strategy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so it's it is somewhat unusual.

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Speaker 6: So the fund primarily we try to avoid the companies

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Speaker 6: that we feel the most hostile to conservative values.

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Speaker 4: We keep them out of the portfolio.

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Speaker 6: For companies we do own, I'd say it's the next

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Speaker 6: level of advocacy. We submit shareholder proposals. It's the right

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Speaker 6: of every shareholder to do so. We've been doing that

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Speaker 6: for a few years at this point with various companies,

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Speaker 6: and Airbnb was the first that, you know, lost the

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Speaker 6: proposal so to speak. There's rules where you mail at,

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Speaker 6: how you address it when it has to get there,

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Speaker 6: and they lost the proposal. And not only did they

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Speaker 6: lose that proposal, they lost Heritage Foundations proposal as well.

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Speaker 6: And somehow they didn't lose a proposal, a liberal proposal

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Speaker 6: from Connecticut Retirement Fund. So so as it's very rare

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Speaker 6: that this happens, and I think it's even more rare

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Speaker 6: what happens next, which is when we brought it to

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Speaker 6: their attention.

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Speaker 4: They didn't at that point say, oh, you know, we

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Speaker 4: made a mistake.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's it's a little extra work, but let's use proxies.

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Speaker 4: They just said it was lost, and you know, that's it.

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Speaker 6: No recourse, and that's when the decision is made to

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Speaker 6: to take them to.

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Speaker 4: Court to sue them.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I don't understand. And this seems like

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Speaker 1: kind of a conundrum for liberals. And I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: it's because they maybe they're just so consumed with their ideology.

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Speaker 1: But if they think that their ideology is so morally right,

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Speaker 1: it's so ethically proper, it is so popular, then why

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Speaker 1: are they so afraid to have the consensus of their

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Speaker 1: shareholders on it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean, but on a side that that drives me

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Speaker 6: crazy is they just think they have the moral high ground.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Perplexing, It absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: So we are seeing a lot of companies put woke ideology,

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Speaker 1: you know, DEI hiring esg investments, even anti Israel activism.

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Speaker 1: They are putting that ahead of profits and therefore putting

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Speaker 1: it ahead of the profits of their shareholders. How how

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Speaker 1: did we get to this place in this country where

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Speaker 1: Fortune five hundred companies are more concerned about caving to

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Speaker 1: woke ink than they are focusing on core values like oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, making money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it took a while, it took a while

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Speaker 4: to happen.

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Speaker 6: And I believe the pendulum has you know, reached its

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Speaker 6: apex and it's going the other way, which is which

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Speaker 6: is the good news.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, Donald Trump's exerting a lot of pressure on them

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Speaker 6: as long as you know, as well as conservative advocacy groups.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's you know, it goes back away

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Speaker 6: the conservatives of a silent majority so whenever the left

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Speaker 6: is offended, you know, it's there's there's this outrage and

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Speaker 6: mobilization and activism on their end, and they do have

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Speaker 6: some captive CEOs like Larry Fink and some of the

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Speaker 6: tech CEOs that are that are true believers in this stuff.

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Speaker 6: And just basically the path of these resistance for corporate

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Speaker 6: America to to not get yelled at was to to

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Speaker 6: bow to you know, uh pressure from the left. You know,

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Speaker 6: the boycott's, shareholder proposals just conversations in the public square.

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Speaker 6: Whereas conservatives, I think I'd say, we you know, we

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Speaker 6: get upset once in a while, make some noise, but

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Speaker 6: it is never anything sustained. And I think we're finally

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Speaker 6: at the point where we have a sustained voice to

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Speaker 6: put reinforced at the companies to the shareholders are first.

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Speaker 4: It's not stakeholder capitalism, shareholder.

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Speaker 6: Capitalism, and and companies are starting to move back towards new.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, William, I remember a few years ago I was

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Speaker 1: keeping a very close eye on the activities of Black Rock,

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Speaker 1: and they seem to be very anti American because they,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're participating in the sale of land, you know,

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Speaker 1: even properties and investments to the Chinese, even down to

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Speaker 1: like talent agencies in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: It was bizarre. Are they still up to their same

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Speaker 2: old tricks?

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Speaker 6: Well, Larry, I think publicly has backed away from a

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Speaker 6: lot of the DEI initiatives. In particular, he's such a

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Speaker 6: true blue believer, and when when something like this happens,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you have to question this sincerity, right.

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Speaker 4: Obviously he's under a lot of pressure at.

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Speaker 6: This point to at least not be so public with

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Speaker 6: his viewpoints. So you know, they give the impression that

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Speaker 6: they've changed or they're going in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: Of course we have to question.

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Speaker 6: This sincerity and see where it goes. But you know

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Speaker 6: the overtures are are there that he's toning it down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, William, I don't know if a lot of our

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Speaker 1: audience is familiar with your organization. They probably are, but

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Speaker 1: I want them to know more about American Conservative Values fund.

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Speaker 2: So give everybody just.

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Speaker 1: A bit of a primer on the types of things

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Speaker 1: that you invest in, what your mission is.

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody about that.

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Speaker 6: Sure, thank you, Yes, I mean we launched in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: the right really tough time to launch. We launched right

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Speaker 6: after the election of twenty twenty, and it was pretty

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Speaker 6: much a low point for concerns that I spoke with,

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Speaker 6: and then we had the Black Lives Matter and.

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Speaker 4: You know, all of that.

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Speaker 6: It was a difficult time, and we launched and the

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Speaker 6: idea was, you know, kind of like we were talked

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Speaker 6: about earlier, let's get politics out of the companies. Let's

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Speaker 6: focus on shareholder value, maximizing shareholder value. And the fund

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Speaker 6: we basically try to avoid. We're a large cap exchange

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Speaker 6: traded funds, so a lot of people own you know,

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Speaker 6: four oh one k's and high raise in there. There's

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Speaker 6: a mutual fund, a large cat neutral fund owned some

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Speaker 6: of the biggest companies, and I don't think a lot

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Speaker 6: of people when they look at that, they realize, you know,

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Speaker 6: through that they're owning Disney, They're owning Nike, you know,

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Speaker 6: they're they own Meta, you know formally Facebook, you know,

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Speaker 6: companies that are really working against their their values. And

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Speaker 6: on what we offer as an alternative is, you know,

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Speaker 6: a fund that is trying to eliminate the companies that

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Speaker 6: are the most hospital conservative values.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic and I love that and I know our audiences

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Speaker 1: to William Flake, founder and CEO of the American Conservative

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Speaker 1: Values Fund, Thanks so much for being with us tonight.

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Speaker 2: William, thank you, Amanda.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, everybody up next. Even though John is

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Speaker 1: out on assignments and I he's going to be back

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Speaker 1: for this one segment. Coming up are Weekly Just the

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Speaker 1: News Health Update that's going to.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, folks.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments of the week are Just

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Speaker 3: the News Weekly Health Update, brought to you by our.

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Speaker 4: Friends at Natapath.

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Speaker 3: really helped me get healthier, Doctor Chad Walding. Doctor, good

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Speaker 3: to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 9: A me.

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Speaker 4: We spent a lot of time the.

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Speaker 3: Last three weeks going through and understanding the dangers of

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Speaker 3: process food, and.

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Speaker 4: I want to pivot today too. A.

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Speaker 3: Right, we now know the dangers. We now know the sugars,

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Speaker 3: the pacify, the pesticides, the lack of protein. When you

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Speaker 3: start eating more healthy, when you start pushing the processed

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Speaker 3: food out, natural food back in, then you'd supplement it

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Speaker 3: with things like native path tell us some of the

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Speaker 3: things you're going to see in improvements and changes once

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Speaker 3: you start doing this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Once, once we start moving away from the process from

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Speaker 12: food refined food, diet that we've all been fed right

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Speaker 12: that many of us have been eating for a long time,

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Speaker 12: and we start moving back on the path whole real food,

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Speaker 12: in other words, the way our great great grandparents would eat,

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Speaker 12: we're going to start to notice huge changes in our

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Speaker 12: overall health. There's really three key areas that I always

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Speaker 12: point to. Right, blood sugar regulation, this is one of

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Speaker 12: the biggest things. Like insulin resistance is one of the

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Speaker 12: key areas of what's making us so sick. Right, so

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Speaker 12: when you balance your blood sugar through whole real food

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Speaker 12: rather than food that's got a lot of sugar in it,

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Speaker 12: you are going to radically reduce a lot of the

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Speaker 12: metabolic issues that you feel. So weight loss, right, obesity,

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Speaker 12: things like that. Blood sugar issues tend to go away

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Speaker 12: a lot easier, blood pressure issues, high triglycerides, cholesterol issues,

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Speaker 12: all the things around the heart tend to get a

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Speaker 12: lot easier when you go to a whole real food diet.

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Speaker 12: And also another one that most people don't think about

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Speaker 12: is your gut. Right when we move to a whole

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Speaker 12: real food diet and move away from the process and

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Speaker 12: refined foods, our gut health starts to improve. You know,

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Speaker 12: Socrates said, our true health begins in the gut. This

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Speaker 12: is where we break down food. It's where we absorb

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Speaker 12: the vitamins and the minerals that we eat from the food.

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Speaker 12: It's also when we eliminate toxins. Right, So when we

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Speaker 12: have bad gut health, that's going to set us up

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Speaker 12: for a lot of the autoimmune issues that people might

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Speaker 12: have a lot of stuff. When people go to the

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Speaker 12: doctor and they're like, I feel bad, I don't know

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Speaker 12: what's going on. The doctor's like, I don't know what's

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Speaker 12: going on either, Let's just give you some pills. You know,

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Speaker 12: sometimes that can be helpful, but sometimes it's just poor

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Speaker 12: gut health. And we have good gut health health and

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Speaker 12: digestion gets better, your mood gets better. You know, a

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Speaker 12: lot of the inflammatory issues that a lot of people

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Speaker 12: have dealt with start to get better, so, you know,

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Speaker 12: improving the quality of your life, Extending the quality of

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Speaker 12: your life, having more energy, having more productivity, being happier,

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Speaker 12: being healthier, less dependency on pain meds. All of these

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Speaker 12: things are a byproduct of moving towards a more whole

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Speaker 12: real food diet, as we say, getting on the path.

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Speaker 3: One of the ones that I know is that I

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Speaker 3: have to tell you it was the one I least

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Speaker 3: expected when I started on this journey, and that is

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Speaker 3: I sleep better. I'm not agitated. I just I wake

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Speaker 3: up in the morning. I'm way more refreshed than I

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Speaker 3: used to be. Is that another part of the body

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Speaker 3: that just gets affected when you get on this path.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, And a lot of that comes down to sugar.

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Speaker 12: And when people are dependent on sugar and they have

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Speaker 12: big ups and downs with their blood sugar, right, you

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Speaker 12: wake up in the morning. Let's say you have a cereal,

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Speaker 12: some orange juice and a toast and a pop tid

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Speaker 12: or something like that. That big up and down cycle

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Speaker 12: leads to big swings in your energy, right, and a

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Speaker 12: lot of times people will have that throughout the day.

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Speaker 12: And then you know, if they're eating carbs a lot

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Speaker 12: throughout the day, and I'm really referring to refined carbohydrates,

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Speaker 12: you go to bed, you're ready to sleep, but your

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Speaker 12: blood sugar just takes this big spike again, right, And

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Speaker 12: what that does is it gets your energy up and

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Speaker 12: you're wired and tired.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 12: When you regulate your blood sugar a lot more with

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Speaker 12: specifically with good quality protein or surrounded by whole real

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Speaker 12: food and good fast you don't have those big highs

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Speaker 12: and big lows. It's more stable throughout the day. It's

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Speaker 12: less volatile, and that allows you when you go to bed,

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Speaker 12: to fall asleep easy, to fall asleep fast, and to

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Speaker 12: stay asleep through the rest of the night because your

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Speaker 12: blood sugar is more regulated, which comes from whole real

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Speaker 12: food and good quality of protein sources.

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Speaker 4: So we hear that a lot, and that's a big thing.

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Speaker 12: And when you sleep better, everything about your health gets better.

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Speaker 12: That's a whole other world that gets gets underlooked because

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Speaker 12: of the way we're kind of eating, but also our

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Speaker 12: relationship to light in the modern world. Right, So fixing

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Speaker 12: sleep fixes a whole lot of things.

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Speaker 4: That sure does.

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Speaker 3: I have been one of the many benefits, all right.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I love about native path is

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Speaker 3: it's so easy to do. I usually throw it in

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Speaker 3: my coffee or sometimes I'll have a strawberry smoothie in

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Speaker 3: the morning. I love that, and I just sew it

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Speaker 3: in no flavor, there's no additives. It's easiest thing in

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Speaker 3: the world to do to get, you know, a really

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Speaker 3: big boost in your.

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Speaker 4: Health.

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Speaker 8: Overall.

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Speaker 3: What goes on after that happens. I take it, I

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Speaker 3: drink it down, I go and I know I'm feeling

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Speaker 3: better in a couple of days. But under all of that,

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Speaker 3: there's some amazing things going on in your body when

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Speaker 3: that absorption of the peptide formula starts occurring.

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Speaker 12: Right, that's right, And we're referring to collagen here, right.

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Speaker 12: Collagen is the most abundant protein.

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Speaker 4: In the body.

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Speaker 12: And like you said, you know, this is a tasteless,

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Speaker 12: odorless powder that you can put in your coffee, you

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Speaker 12: can put it in your tea, you can just make

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Speaker 12: it a part of your morning routine. And what you're

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Speaker 12: going to be doing is restoring your collagen levels, which

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Speaker 12: have been depleted because of the way we've all been

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Speaker 12: eating and living in this modern world. We have to

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Speaker 12: keep it mind like what our biology actually wants in

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Speaker 12: terms of diet, and our ancestors would get plenty of

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Speaker 12: collagen because they would eat nose to tail, and it's

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Speaker 12: the most abundant protein in the body. It's what makes

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Speaker 12: up our hair, our skin, our ligaments, even underneath our tendons,

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Speaker 12: our gut lining, even our heart is dependent on collagen.

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Speaker 12: But we're not getting near enough, so many of us are.

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Speaker 8: Depleted in that.

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Speaker 12: So when you start consuming collagen on a consistent basis,

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Speaker 12: you know people will notice. They report to us changes,

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Speaker 12: and one of the first things they notice is what's

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Speaker 12: happened in the outside. But my nails are growing faster,

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Speaker 12: they're stronger, they're not as burtal, they're not breaking as much.

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Speaker 12: When that change happens, you're also people notice less wrinkles,

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Speaker 12: the hair starts to grow back, and then the bigger stuff,

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Speaker 12: the joints, like how well we moved you mentioned earlier

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Speaker 12: and in a former talk we had about your elbow

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Speaker 12: getting better, the paying getting better, back pay, and getting better. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: so all of that changes because collagen, when we consume

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Speaker 12: it on a consistent basis and we break it down,

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Speaker 12: it goes into into our body. The collagen doesn't just

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Speaker 12: go to random areas of the body. It specifically goes

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Speaker 12: to areas that are damaged and helps rebuild them. It's

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Speaker 12: an amazing little molecule that has this intelligence on its own.

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Speaker 12: So taking it consistently making a part of your morning

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Speaker 12: routine is one of the easiest things you can do

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Speaker 12: for your health.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. You mentioned before in some of the resistance,

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Speaker 3: and there's the new fath of GLP one injections. Everyone's

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Speaker 3: getting under the magic weight loss, but a lot of

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Speaker 3: people can avoid that injection routine and the expense of it.

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Speaker 3: If you just get on a healthier path and you

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Speaker 3: start getting calligen, you really won't need those injections, right,

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Speaker 3: because your body's going to heal itself from the inside.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Highlighted a story about a month ago about Emmy Award

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Speaker 1: winning actress Martha Byrne her husband NYPD Sergeant Michael McMahon.

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Speaker 1: Martha tells us that her husband is a victim of

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Speaker 1: weaponized justice perpetrated under the Biden administration. She's written a

932
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Speaker 1: book all about it too, so everybody go check it out.

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Speaker 1: It's called in the Interest of Justice. Well, her husband

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Speaker 1: has now booken his prison sentence. Joining us now to

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Speaker 1: talk about all this and to get an update is

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Speaker 1: the wife Martha Burn.

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Speaker 2: Martha, thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate

939
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Speaker 9: you having back on.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and you're such a wonderful, wonderful aggressive advocate

941
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Speaker 1: for your husband, which I would want my spouse to

942
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Speaker 1: be if I was in the same situation.

943
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Speaker 2: We've only got a few minutes left in.

944
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Speaker 1: The show, but this is important, so take a few

945
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Speaker 1: minutes and tell our audience.

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Speaker 2: For those who didn't.

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Speaker 1: See you on this show a month ago, just give

948
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Speaker 1: everybody kind of a quick briefer on what has happened

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Speaker 1: to your husband.

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Speaker 13: Oh, he's a retired NYPD sergeant and he retired and

951
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Speaker 13: became a private investigator.

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Speaker 9: In twenty sixteen, he did a routine case, you.

953
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Speaker 13: Know, some background checks, asset churches, some surveillance, and never

954
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Speaker 13: thought about it again. Totally routine case. And then four

955
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Speaker 13: years later they arrested him. The FBI came to my

956
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Speaker 13: house for failure to register as a foreign agent, and

957
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Speaker 13: interstate stalking, and it was outrageous because there was no

958
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Speaker 13: evidence of any wrongdoing, no crime, So of course we felt,

959
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Speaker 13: let's go to trial and he'll win. But what we

960
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Speaker 13: saw happened was insane, and he was found guilty of

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Speaker 13: interstate stalking and fail to register for FARA and given

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Speaker 13: eighteen months in federal prison. And the judge said she

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Speaker 13: wasn't giving him that time because of the crime, because

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Speaker 13: he kind of said he didn't do a crime, but

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Speaker 13: that he had no remorse for.

966
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Speaker 9: The victims, which the victims couldn't even identify.

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Speaker 13: Him in courts and had no idea who he was,

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Speaker 13: so I'm not sure how that worked, but he had

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Speaker 13: to report yesterday.

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Speaker 9: I just got back from Michigan. They sent him six.

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Speaker 13: Hundred miles away from my family and Amanda. I can't

972
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Speaker 13: even grab my brain around it. It's so outrageous that

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Speaker 13: they're putting a man who committed no crime and had evidence,

974
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Speaker 13: overwhelming evidence of his innocence that we couldn't present a trial.

975
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Speaker 13: They suppressed evidence, they lied at the jury, FBI agent's

976
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Speaker 13: flight on search warrants, on criminal complaints, and I'm speechless.

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Speaker 9: As to that.

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Speaker 13: My husband is six hundred miles away in a federal

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Speaker 13: prison now, and.

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Speaker 1: Remind me again the CCP connection, how does that tie

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Speaker 1: into all this?

982
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Speaker 13: So the alleged victims, he was actually a former Wuhan

983
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Speaker 13: official who was here in this country. It's illegally. My

984
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Speaker 13: husband was hired. He was hired just to find assets

985
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Speaker 13: of a man that had apparently stolen money from China.

986
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Speaker 13: That's all he knew. His client had millions of dollars

987
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Speaker 13: stolen from his family business, and my husband was hired

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Speaker 13: by a New York company to find his houses.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 13: It was like a day in the life kind of thing,

991
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Speaker 13: and sure enough, he found millions of dollars of real

992
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Speaker 13: estate transactions and then he just kind of moved on

993
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Speaker 13: with his life. Typical case. But apparently there was another

994
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Speaker 13: lane going on that Mike had nothing to do with.

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Speaker 13: That was about repatriating this fellow back to China. But

996
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Speaker 13: the crimes that he had committed in the United States,

997
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Speaker 13: this man, we were not allowed to even bring up

998
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Speaker 13: that at trial.

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Speaker 9: So there's a big CCP connection.

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Speaker 13: One of the agents, Robert Riley, a FBI agents in

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Speaker 13: New Jersey, was actually communicating with the alleged victim, helping

1002
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Speaker 13: them with their immigration, helping them with.

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Speaker 9: The civil lawsuits.

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Speaker 13: So there's a lot of complicated stuff that has nothing

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Speaker 13: to do with Mike.

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Speaker 9: He was just suing a routine job.

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Speaker 1: And I know that this started under President Trump's first term,

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Speaker 1: but it was the Biden DOJ who was really weaponized

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Speaker 1: against Mike.

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Speaker 13: Right, correct, Because under Trump's first term, as we know,

1011
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Speaker 13: Christopher Ray and call me, I mean, they were spying

1012
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Speaker 13: on cash Ftel Carter Page, I mean, Donald, they were

1013
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 13: off the rail.

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Speaker 9: So the fact that my husband was victim.

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Speaker 13: Of that is not no surprise, right, But the fact

1016
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Speaker 13: is it's all coming out now of what was really

1017
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Speaker 13: going on in the spying, and we're a victim of

1018
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Speaker 13: that as well. I Mean, it's so similar to Trump

1019
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Speaker 13: Donald Trump's case of just making things up to make

1020
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Speaker 13: it a case out of nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, and one of the biggest successes of President Trump's

1022
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Speaker 1: first term was the First Step Act, and under that provision,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a great amount of sympathy that

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Speaker 1: was shown by President Trump and the people who were

1025
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Speaker 1: supporting this reform because they laid out a limit of

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Speaker 1: how far someone can be imprisoned away from their family,

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Speaker 1: and this violates that, doesn't.

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Speaker 9: It It does.

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Speaker 13: It's six hundred miles away, I mean, and again, what

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Speaker 13: I have to tell you this is that based on

1031
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Speaker 13: the sentencing report, which was filled with lies about my husband,

1032
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Speaker 13: that he's this horrible person, he's the stock. Of course,

1033
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 13: they're going to send him far away and far away

1034
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Speaker 13: from as a police officer former, away from this area.

1035
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Speaker 13: But you're basing it on bad information. So and listen,

1036
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Speaker 13: everybody was very kind there yesterday. Was leaving him there

1037
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Speaker 13: was extremely painful, but everyone was nice to him. But yes,

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Speaker 13: I think Donald Trump is going to be horrified because

1039
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Speaker 13: I can't visit him every day, or my children or

1040
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 13: you know, to fly six hundred miles away just.

1041
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Speaker 9: So we can see him for an hour.

1042
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Speaker 13: I mean, I'm getting it's making me sick as even

1043
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Speaker 13: saying that, you know, because he's done nothing wrong.

1044
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Speaker 9: So again he's over punished, overcharged.

1045
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Speaker 13: It is the classic case of abuse and weaponization of

1046
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Speaker 13: the FBI, which is out of control and the DJ

1047
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Speaker 13: and the Eastern set.

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Speaker 1: Martha, I don't want to cut you off, but I

1049
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Speaker 1: spent about thirty minutes everybody with Martha on my podcast.

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Speaker 2: Furthermore with Amanda head so if you want to hear

1051
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Speaker 2: more details about it, go check that out. But that's

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Speaker 2: all we have time for tonight. Have a great night.

1053
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Speaker 2: We'll see them Mark