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Speaker 1: Here Tween go. This is it caught by Kirk at

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Speaker 1: Craig Grilou, Mike Jarecki and Bertrand Berry. Well, the finish

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Speaker 1: line is in sights. There are still, though, several days

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Speaker 1: before we reach that finish line otherwise known as the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. So there is still a

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Speaker 1: lot of time for a lot of noise, And there

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Speaker 1: is certainly a lot of noise out there, not just

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Speaker 1: about the Arizona Cardinals, but the entire draft and draft process.

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Speaker 1: What do you believe, as I put it, you hear everything,

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Speaker 1: believe nothing. At least that's just my own opinion. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this week's edition to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the draft b train writes around the corner. And I

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Speaker 1: But once you were in the league, did you pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the draft because these were guys that were

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Speaker 1: coming in to borrow phrase to take your job. Well,

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Speaker 1: all like to coordinate. Sidey. I like that Bertram Berry

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Speaker 1: but yes, he did come out another Dame and had

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Speaker 1: here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report and the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network. MJO, you're excited yet there is You

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Speaker 1: gotta be patient because you know a lot still can

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Speaker 1: that you use that pick on a player that you

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Speaker 1: feel good about, you could plug in and have him

432
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Speaker 1: be a contributor to your team right away. And whether

433
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Speaker 1: we're talking about receiver, we're talking about her back, or

434
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: we're talking about offensive lineman, I don't know what that's

435
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 1: going to be. I'm not in those meetings, but if

436
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: that players that that type of consideration at that position,

437
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: at that at that number, then I think you have

438
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: to do what's best for your team long term and

439
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: and lock that guy up because you also could use

440
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Speaker 1: that fifth year option on that first round pick. Yeah,

441
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you look at Elijah Vera Tucker.

442
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Cardinals he's he played left tackle

443
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Speaker 1: at usc Um, Cliff Kingsbury is there for a short time,

444
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: you got Graham Harold was the offensive coordinator, so the

445
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals would have intel there. You look at Justin pugh Um,

446
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, getting up there in age depending on what

447
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: happens at right guard. But here's a guy that may

448
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: not play right away, but he that competition and you

449
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: got that spot for the next couple of years. So

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00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: I think Vera Tucker is definitely an option at number sixteen,

451
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: and he could be there if a couple of tackles

452
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Speaker 1: come off the board Slater and and uh Penny Sewell,

453
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I think he's the next guy.

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00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: So it'd be interesting. But I think they're gonna have

455
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: some flexibility now. It's just a matter of and again,

456
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: some of these corners and wide receivers they have return skills.

457
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle, he can return punts. I mean, so that's

458
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: one area where the Cardinals want to improve on. They

459
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: haven't been able to gain positive yards on punt returns

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Speaker 1: and cook off returns. So even if you're the third

461
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: or fourth wide receiver or a third or fourth corner,

462
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Speaker 1: you're going to dress on game days. So the Cardinals

463
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Speaker 1: are looking at one of these guys also that can

464
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Speaker 1: have return skills. You have these discussions as far as

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Speaker 1: whether it's a corner, a wide receiver, offensive lineman, maybe

466
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Speaker 1: even linebacker. And that's what these meetings that the Cardinals

467
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: and every team has right now and probably leading into

468
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Speaker 1: the draft and trying to figure out what is the

469
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: best move for the Cardinals at number sixteen. Drew Grigson

470
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Speaker 1: on how the Cardinals are handling that. I think we

471
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: do a great job of keeping it professional and you

472
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: could still be convicted and strong with your opinion and

473
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Speaker 1: still you know, again be professional and doing it. If

474
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: I feel that it's going the wrong way, I said,

475
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: you know, gentlemen, let's let's calm down a little bit.

476
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Speaker 1: And you know, let's but but yes, and you want that,

477
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: you want your your scouts to be excited about a guy.

478
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: You want them to have conviction on the bottom one

479
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: way or another, because that's how you hit on a player,

480
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and that's how you miss on a player if you're

481
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: not listening to those guys, because like I said, sometimes

482
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: those guys are doing three years of work on those guys.

483
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating to be involved and just a fly on

484
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Speaker 1: the wall on those discussions because at the end of

485
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Speaker 1: the day, I'm Jay, you know, when you meet the

486
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: media at everyone has to be on board. Yeah, you

487
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: might be disappointed they didn't get my guy as a scouts,

488
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: but to Grigson's point, you want scouts to have conviction

489
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: and who they've looked at and evaluate and say this

490
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: is who we should pick. And then obviously it comes

491
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: down to one man's decision, and that's Steve Conn. Yeah,

492
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: they put the work in and again, these guys do

493
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: do all the grunt work to get all the information,

494
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: to do background checks, They talk to the strength coach,

495
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: they go back to the high school coach. I mean,

496
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time spent on just learning the

497
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: person and the player. And we know that the Cardinals

498
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: have a way when it comes to the Cardinal way

499
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: when it comes to drafting. So yeah, I mean at

500
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they do they do the

501
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: heavy lifting, and then obviously it goes to a different

502
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: level but they're still involved in the process and they

503
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: know more about these players until the front office starts

504
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: watching more film. But for the most part, you've got

505
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: to that's the reason why you hire theman. You trust

506
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: their judgment and obviously some guys are probably better than

507
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: others depending on the region. If you're covering the SEC,

508
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have more players than maybe the Pac twelve.

509
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Speaker 1: So they put to work in and now you know

510
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: they're hoping that you know, they'll take their advice and

511
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll draft some of their players. The two positions

512
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Speaker 1: that have most often been linked to the Cardinals at

513
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: sixteen corner and wide receiver, And in both categories there's

514
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: three players. There's three prospects at those positions that we

515
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: often talk about, and then there's a varying degree of

516
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Speaker 1: whether one guy is better than another or would be

517
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: better fits in a certain defense or offense. So when

518
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Speaker 1: you have those discussions, Drew Grigson again on how those

519
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: discussions lead to, well, what do you do if you

520
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: have two players that you both like, how do you

521
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: decide on which guy becomes an Arizona Cardinal player. If

522
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: we're setting the board and the guys are that we're

523
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: looking at two players and they're close inability grade. Those

524
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Speaker 1: guys that are the alphas, that are the guys that

525
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: are tough, that we feel are a football character guys

526
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna go above the other guy, and that's how

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Speaker 1: we break the tie on a lot of guys. And

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00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: we're going to keep filling our locker room with those

529
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: guys and when things start to fall apart, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: those are the guys that hold it together. Leaders, b train.

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Speaker 1: You want leaders in the locker room. That was what

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Speaker 1: I took away from what Drew Grigson had to say

533
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage. Yeah, you want leaders, but

534
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: you also want playmakers. You can have guys that can

535
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: talk your great talk, but if they can't go out

536
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: there and hippy team win, they're not going to be

537
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: much help to you and they're not gonna give you

538
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: much job security. So when I look at sixteen, you're

539
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: you're not what you want to be as far as

540
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: you weren't the worst team, and you definitely weren't the

541
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: best team. So there's no position that should be off

542
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: the table as far as consideration for that pick. If

543
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: there's somebody there that has fallen or has come your way.

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00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't like to say fallen, because you're a sixteen

545
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: pick overall, you're still pretty dang good. But if you

546
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Speaker 1: have a player come to you at sixteen, and you're

547
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: steel good about this guy, and you've done all the

548
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: research that you could possibly do and all the scouts

549
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: have pretty much conceded that he is value at that pick,

550
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: then you turn that in and you're feel good about it,

551
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: and you want to make sure that these guys one

552
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: are good people, but then you won't make sure that

553
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: they can actually go out and help you win ball games.

554
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Because you can have all the great people you want

555
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: in the world, but if they're not helping you win

556
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: ball games, you're going to be finding yourself trying to

557
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: do this somewhere else. It's most definitely not where you

558
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: are right now, even the post and the most important

559
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: part right there j is making sure that they are

560
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: contributing and aren't just sitting and watching. And sometimes that

561
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: happens just based off on how long it takes you

562
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: to make that transition from college the NFL. But you

563
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: want guys that you hope already week one, well, and

564
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: again you got to find out what between the years

565
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: and what's in the chest. I mean, the Cardinals interviewed

566
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Robert Candici four different times, and I know Steve would

567
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: not take talent over character anymore. So they've changed their

568
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: process just based on meeting with him, and it didn't

569
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Speaker 1: pan out, and he learned from it. Bird Gang. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't already, we invite you to update to the

571
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The app

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Speaker 1: com slash app for more. We've had halftime here on

574
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red see reports, more draft discussion, plus some

575
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: player movement. We'll get to that next here on the

576
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio network. I just gets the shot, got

577
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: snap gets it. A Connor sweeps the left. I gotta

578
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: block into ten. Connor down. James Cotter sweeping the webside,

579
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: takes it in from twelve yards out. Godgers will throw

580
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: the Connor out of the backfield, makes him an missing

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: it to the twenty. Connor down the sideline of the

582
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Speaker 1: ten and he's gonna walk it in and for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: The most recent addition to the Arizona Cardinals backs one

584
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Speaker 1: week ago today, James Conner, the former Pittsburgh Steeler, the

585
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: running back joining the Cardinals to team up with Chase

586
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Edmonds in that backfield. As we continue here on the

587
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals red seawerport Craig Riel to Mike Jarecki and Bertram Barry,

588
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: a former third round pick in twenty seventeen, Connor turns

589
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: twenty six next month. Four seasons with the Steelers. His

590
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: best season, though, came when James Saxon was his running

591
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: backs coach. In twenty eighteen. Once again, James Saxon will

592
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: be Connor's running backs coach with the Arizona Cardinals. Beatran

593
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: As you look at this move and specifically how he

594
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: fits with an Edmonds in that backfield, pros cons what

595
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: do you like about James Conner and the fact that,

596
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: out of the other interesting nuggets about him, he is

597
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Speaker 1: he's the youngest of the newest editions, if you will,

598
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Speaker 1: because most of these players that have been added in

599
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: free agency are in their thirties are about to be thirty.

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Speaker 1: I love the toughness aspect of James Conner. I love

601
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: the story, the backstory how he overcame cancer in college

602
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: and he was able to parlay that into a role

603
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers, making it too a Pro Bowl, having

604
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Speaker 1: that opportunity to play when everything was going on down

605
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Speaker 1: there with Leveon Bell, and he took advantage of his

606
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Speaker 1: opportunities and he's made himself into a very formidable back.

607
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Speaker 1: I think the toughness that he brings is going to

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Speaker 1: be just what this offense needs. And I think he,

609
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: along with another running back, is going to be the

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Speaker 1: formula for success for this team because I think if

611
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Speaker 1: you really want to run the ball, gonna need a

612
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: guy that can get those tough yards and fight for

613
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: those those much needed yards that get lost sometimes in

614
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Speaker 1: the stats. So he's a veteran, He's a guy that

615
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: is going to be that that calming voice, if you will,

616
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: and had been through a lot already from a life

617
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: experience and football experience. So I think anytime you add

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00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: a player like James Conner, you definitely add value to

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Speaker 1: your team. I couldn't agree more. And b Train he

620
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, spending four years at Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 1: then you know, obviously he spent another four years with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers concerned he went to college there, and you

623
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Speaker 1: can see he's kind of hitting the reset button kind

624
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Speaker 1: of similar we heard from A. J. Green and J. J.

625
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Watt just talk about change of scenery. We know the weather,

626
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: we know they play on one of the best surfaces

627
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, if not the best, but changes scenery.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he was motivated to come out here. Well.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to change of scenery, I came here in two

630
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: thousand and four ones upon a time, coming from Dator,

631
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: and it gave me an opportunity to reinvent myself because

632
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I was just kind of looked at as just a

633
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: off the street free agent in Denver and I was

634
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: really never going to elevate above that. So when I

635
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: hear as a highly talented free agent, I was looked

636
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: at different and there were different expectations, and I think

637
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: that helped me tremendously. I was able to blossom into

638
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: the player that I became in and in the first

639
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: year we all know what happened. So sometimes you just

640
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: meet that that different perspective, if you will, and have

641
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: a different set of eyes on you, in a different

642
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: set of expectations for you to really come into your

643
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: own and really blossom into the player you were always

644
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: meant to be. And I think for James Connor, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the situation was, but I think

646
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Speaker 1: this gives him a fresh start, and he seems like

647
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Speaker 1: the type of individual that really takes the advantage of

648
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Speaker 1: the opportunity is given to him, and I think he's

649
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: going to go out and do everything he can to

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Speaker 1: try to help the team win. Quoting Connor, I just

651
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: felt right place, right time, and then he later added,

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: I feel brand new about joining the Cardinals after eight

653
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Speaker 1: years in Pittsburgh. Of course, four seasons with the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and in four years at the University of Pittsburgh, he

655
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Speaker 1: has not been outside the state of Pennsylvania, at least

656
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Speaker 1: as far as playing football is concerned. So it's your point, MJ.

657
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: He's joining a lot of players that have been, you know,

658
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: ten seasons with the Texans, AJ Green with the Bengals,

659
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you JJ Watt, guys that maybe

660
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: just at this point in their careers need a little

661
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Speaker 1: bit of a reset. The other thing with Connor is

662
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: he's joining a backfield where Chase Edmonds is the guy.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to Steve kame Man Cliff Kingsbury, they've

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Speaker 1: made no secret that they believe that Edmunds can be

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Speaker 1: a starter, a number one running back. Well, now you

666
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Speaker 1: add Connor who has starting experience, but he's also had

667
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Speaker 1: the ability to share the backfield a little bit before

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Speaker 1: we get your thoughts there, Betran and MJ. Here is

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Speaker 1: Cardinals director of player Personnel. Last week the Big Red

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Speaker 1: Rage Drew Grigson talking about Connor and Edmund as far

671
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Speaker 1: as their ability in the backfield together, big back with

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Speaker 1: outstanding feet that could catch the ball, that's gonna be

673
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Speaker 1: great on third down, that can block, and he's gonna

674
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Speaker 1: be good in short yardage and goal line situations. He's tough,

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Speaker 1: and I just think he adds a great you know,

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Speaker 1: one two punch with Chase Edmonds with his skill set,

677
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Speaker 1: so you know, a little thunder and lightning. I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good mix. We've heard

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Speaker 1: that a lot over the years in the National Football

680
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Speaker 1: League on the college front, as far as that thunder

681
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Speaker 1: and lightning. The difference is in running backs. But MJ,

682
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Speaker 1: could we see both of these backs on the field

683
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Speaker 1: at the same time. Well, they both can catch the

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Speaker 1: ball the backfield. I mean, if you watch a lot

685
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: of the Steelers games and when they're on national TV.

686
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Speaker 1: He was into the safety net or safety valve for

687
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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger who holds the ball. I think Chase Edmonds

688
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: is a little bit more fluid in the open field,

689
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Speaker 1: just maybe agewise, but from the most part, I mean

690
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: he's only a year younger. But yeah, I mean it's

691
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Speaker 1: you want to get your playmakers on the field. But

692
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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with bertrand Andrew Grigson. I mean,

693
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Speaker 1: let's talk about third and two. Let's talk about fourth

694
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Speaker 1: and one, where you know you didn't want to put

695
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Murray under center, and you can run the RPOs, you

696
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Speaker 1: can run the zone where you can run the pistol,

697
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: but now you just line up and run the football.

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Speaker 1: And again you look at the interior with the addition

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Speaker 1: of Rodney Hudson, this is what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of change in philosophy

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Speaker 1: when it comes to what this team wants to be

702
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: for the upcoming Sea and I think they want to

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00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: be more physical at the line of scrimmage. And this

704
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: is the perfect back. I like the one two punch,

705
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: whether it's thunder and lightning. But I do think they've

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Speaker 1: upgraded the position by bringing in Connor and that was

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Speaker 1: the first word that you used when I asked you

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Speaker 1: about James Connor by train, the physicality on this six

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Speaker 1: foot one, two hundred and thirty three pounds, not afraid

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Speaker 1: to get hit, not afraid to run between the tackles,

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Speaker 1: not afraid to block as well. And when you start

712
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Speaker 1: talking about this offense and if Tyler is going to

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Speaker 1: put the ball in the air, you need that running

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Speaker 1: back to be a guy that can come and help

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Speaker 1: run protection. And you can't expect just the five offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen to always withstand and that on slide of whatever

717
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: blitz or rush that the defense is throwing at you.

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00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: If you can have that running back sometimes be able

719
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Speaker 1: to pick up that that extra blitzer and give Kyler

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Speaker 1: that kind of time where he doesn't have to move

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Speaker 1: in and do all the things that we know Kyler

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Speaker 1: can do, then that's another added asset to it as well.

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Speaker 1: And I think you start talking about toughness, toughness and

724
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: blocking goes a long way as far as being a

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00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: complete player, and I think James Connor is definitely going

726
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: to bring that to the table. For the cardiness and

727
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: toughness and what he is owed to overcome in his

728
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Speaker 1: life battling cancer, something Grigson talked about with Paul Calvci

729
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: and Ron Wolfley last week. I was a big fan

730
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Speaker 1: of James coming out and you know his you know

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Speaker 1: obviously what he went through medically. This story starts there

732
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: and what he came back from that tells you about

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Speaker 1: who he is as a person and how he's able

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Speaker 1: to bounce back. I mean, I can't even get you

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Speaker 1: out of my car day to day. You know, my

736
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Speaker 1: back hurts so bad. And this guy's beating cancer and

737
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Speaker 1: you know, going too Pro Bowl. So that's where it starts.

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Speaker 1: And again, we've had a lot of pieces in free

739
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: agent see of men, of leaders, of alpha's, and that's

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Speaker 1: what we want to keep doing. Cardinals now will look

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Speaker 1: to do that in the draft. One other note, as

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Speaker 1: far as the roster is concerned, since our last show,

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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck, Ezekiel Turner, and Kylie Fitz have all signed

744
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: their one year tenders and those three players not household names,

745
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: but certainly huge on special teams. And with the loss

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: of Blanking on Trencher Field, there we go. You needed

747
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: to bring back those other three players as far as

748
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: showing up special teams because we know how valuable that

749
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: is within that Cardinal's coaching staff. Now, when you look

750
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Speaker 1: at the draft, as we talked about in our first

751
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: half of the show, wide receiver and cornerback very deep.

752
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: But are there are other positions that the Cardinals believe

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00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: that they can get someone, maybe not in the first round,

754
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: but day two or day three. More from Drew Grigson

755
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: in his conversation last week on the Big Red Rage,

756
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Speaker 1: where do you see the most depth in which positions

757
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: in this draft? Something I never said, pass rusher. It's

758
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a very interesting draft for pass rusher, for inside linebacker.

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00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: You know, usually it's receiver just because there's so many

760
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: bodies and it's never pass rusher. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a deep up top, but it's like the second

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00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: third round, it's gonna get real interesting. There's a lot

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00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: of counted guys. They're gonna fly off the boards. There's

764
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: gonna be a run from them at some point because

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00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: it's a very very good group. Sure that's music to

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Speaker 1: your ears. There be trained pass rusher, something that I

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00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: don't think has been talked a lot about because in

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Speaker 1: Grigson's words, it's the top guys and maybe they're not

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Speaker 1: top tier guys. But when you look at the overall

770
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: depth of edge rushers in this twenty twenty one draft

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00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: prospect class, yes it is very deep. Yeah, go ahead

772
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: and get you one. You don't have to spend the

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00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: first round on the pass rusher, but you can never

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: have too many good pass rushers and guys that can

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Speaker 1: get after the quarterback in Also, keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: once you start getting into the later round, special teams

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00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a part of their role. Here

778
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals, you don't necessary early draft all

779
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: of these young men to come in and be starters.

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00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: You sometimes draft these young men to come in and

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00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: help with special teams and hopefully they'll develop in time

782
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: and become a starter to some degree. But when you

783
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: start talking about special teams, you need athletic guys that

784
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things, and and pass rushers.

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00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I'll took my own horn a little bit. You know,

786
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: those guys are pretty athletics. They can do some things.

787
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: They're not just one trick ponies, and so they can

788
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: go down and make a tackle on kickoff or block

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00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: somebody on kickoff return, punt punt return. So those guys

790
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: are much more versatile than some people may give them

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00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: credit for, and they're going to need that versatility when

792
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: you start talking about filling out the roster from a

793
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: special team standpoint, and you can find very capable edge rushers,

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00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: specifically in the third round, maybe around you know, than

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00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: the eighty to ninety range overall, because that's where Bertram

796
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Berry landed and certainly had an outstanding career in the

797
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: National Football League. But betray in the car DALs when

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Speaker 1: you look at that range, they have one pick in

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Speaker 1: the second round, forty ninth overall, and then not another

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Speaker 1: pick until the fifth round one hundred and sixty overall.

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00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: So if they want to get an edge rusher, and

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Speaker 1: if it is that deep, it might have to be

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Speaker 1: at number forty nine, I don't know if it's deep

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Speaker 1: enough to where you're getting one in the fifth or

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Speaker 1: sixth round. I really believe that that's a good quality pick.

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Speaker 1: When you start talking about forty nine, I think you

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00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: can go pass rusher there because it's an important position.

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Speaker 1: When you think about the importance of getting accurate quarterback

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Speaker 1: in today's NFL, the quarterback has a lot of responsibility

810
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: put on them, and you need people to go in

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Speaker 1: and try to make his life a living hell for

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Speaker 1: sixty minute. So you don't want that quarterback to ever

813
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable if it's not your own. And pass rushers

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Speaker 1: or guys that are definitely there, And I think there's

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Speaker 1: value at forty nine for a pass rushers because what

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Speaker 1: they're asked to do is a very important job. So

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Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with them spending at forty

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Speaker 1: nine on a pass rusher because I do believe there's

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00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: great value at that spot for a player at that position.

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Speaker 1: And you look at it, you know, retaining Marcus Golden,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on the final year of his contract, Devin

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00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: Cannar is still on the roster and it looks like

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Speaker 1: he's going to be on the roster, and then Dennis Cardeck.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't know when he's going to be available.

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00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't root against him, but I assume that maybe

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Speaker 1: he starts off on pup. So, you know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have some depth at that position. We know some guys

828
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: can slide outside. It seems like Isaiah Simmons could be

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Speaker 1: an option there. We know that vance will bring some

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Speaker 1: blitzer off the edge, but you do need to add

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Speaker 1: some bodies at that position, just based on injuries Burt Gang.

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Speaker 1: having that perspective come from a coach like coach Buck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he brings it from a player's perspective. I could

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