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Speaker 1: Scable Advice. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. It's

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Speaker 1: the Queen's Jubilie today and I robed shoots and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't be happier. We've got turn off gossip and a

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Speaker 1: lot of royal stuff too, so don't worry. That's coming

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Speaker 1: a little later in the show. Joining us every Thursday

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Speaker 1: is our dear friend Mark Lupolupia. You're there, lip, lieppylu

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Speaker 1: I love that nickname, Liepy Lou. Didn't you say people

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Speaker 1: would call your dad that? My dad is also called

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Speaker 1: loup Lupi Lou, You're right, makes me smile. Every Thursday,

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Speaker 1: We've got a ton to get into, so let's jump

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Speaker 1: into the show. Mark, what time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 1: And so the verdict has been reached in the Johnny

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Speaker 1: Depp and the Amber Hood defamation trial. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: is just so over this, so we'll go pretty fast.

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Speaker 1: But it is a big story. So the jury found

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Speaker 1: that Depth was defamed by misheard when she described herself

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Speaker 1: in an op ed as a public figure representing domestic violence.

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Speaker 1: Johnny actually won all three counts of defamation. I think

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Speaker 1: that's surprised some people, at least legal people. It seems

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Speaker 1: to me like the public was on Johnny's side here,

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Speaker 1: so people seemed to be happy that he won, but

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Speaker 1: legally he had a really really really big mountain to climb.

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Speaker 1: He did. So, however, it's not all good news because

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Speaker 1: of her complaints about him. They found that one of

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Speaker 1: them were true and his lawyer defamed her. So she's

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Speaker 1: going to pay about fifteen million dollars to him. He's

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Speaker 1: got to pay her two million dollars. All this is

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Speaker 1: a mess. It's gonna be appealed. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about it? Or Mark? Oh my god, Rod, this is

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Speaker 1: has to be the biggest I would say turnover surprise,

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Speaker 1: shock of the life of our lifetime. Really like Johnny

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Speaker 1: Depp when this has been going on for many, many years, right,

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Speaker 1: and I did not expect to see. I didn't this

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Speaker 1: outcome for Johnny Um, I will say, however, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that if there are any winners here,

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Speaker 1: because they both have been tracked to their money. You've

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Speaker 1: it really is. I agree with you, Mark, most admit them.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that this would be the outcome. Remembered

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Speaker 1: too that he sued a British newspaper for calling him

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Speaker 1: a wife bet and then all the evidence that we've

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Speaker 1: seen presented over the last six weeks were presented, was

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Speaker 1: presented in London and she won. So different courts, different

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Speaker 1: rules or different outcomes, I guess a legal expert I

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Speaker 1: a judge that made the decision, it wasn't a jury,

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Speaker 1: add a jury in probably fans of Johnny, let's admit,

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Speaker 1: every one of us has at least seen one Johnny

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Speaker 1: Depp movie. It's impossible to find people on the planet,

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Speaker 1: It's so hard, isn't it. Mark, Have you ever been

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Speaker 1: on a jury? Have been? Once? For a smart claim

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Speaker 1: I didn't take it, you know, as a joke. I

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Speaker 1: I thought I'd be silly. I mean, I'm silly and

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything I do. And so when I turned

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Speaker 1: about the court, I wore all black. I walked in

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Speaker 1: like the Queen of Shiva. And then within minutes, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I figure out, you know, this isn't about you, Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 1: This is really important, and I got really serious about it.

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Speaker 1: And it was not a celebrity trial. But had it

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Speaker 1: want to live in a world where celebrities get away

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Speaker 1: with stuff. I'm not saying Johnny did here, but certainly

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Speaker 1: Amber Amber feel so. So they both issued statements. Hers

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Speaker 1: happens next now, Mark, I think you're right. I think

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Speaker 1: the damage has been done to both of them, Like

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Speaker 1: know about anybody's, particularly movie stars. I can't see Disney

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Speaker 1: can't stop thinking of this quote. This is a case

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be flippant about this too, though, because women's

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Speaker 1: rights advocates have come forward saying that this is a

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Speaker 1: let's move on. So land Serpass I love land Spass, Landspass.

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Speaker 1: It's a chatty catty. Land Spas is a member of

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Speaker 1: end Sinc. Who still gossips to the press, like Justin

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Speaker 1: forget it, never is never going to tell us anything.

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Speaker 1: Lance can't shut up. So Lance's saying that he still

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Speaker 1: can't get in touch with Britney Spears and there's a

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Speaker 1: It's always an event. I love it. We get in

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Speaker 1: the business. It's called a tip sheet and it tips

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Speaker 1: us off to which celebrities are going to events. Always

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Speaker 1: Landspass is something every event. I worry for him when

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Speaker 1: said to pr reallys Bethanie Fragg culture land Spass. They're

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Speaker 1: six and they asked him about Brittany. Remember he grew

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Speaker 1: and then Justin and Brittany dated, so there was sort

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Speaker 1: it's true. I only hear about Lance Bass when he's

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Speaker 1: just enjoy all his money, like he's so rich, he

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Speaker 1: he would just chat chat chat chat chat chat chat,

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Speaker 1: asked him anything you want. He's always around. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: I do like him, but I don't really think about

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Speaker 1: pole question of the day, and it's a cheeky on Lance.

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Speaker 1: She's sitting at home Ring Ring. You look down at

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Speaker 1: your phone, Landspass, Now you know you know whatever you're

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Speaker 1: Hey LUPI, what are you working on? More nottiness to camera?

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Speaker 1: So Jada Pickett Smith is reflecting on the relationship between

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Speaker 1: after Will struck the comedian in the face at Academy Awards. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Rob. At the beginning of Wednesday's Red Table Talk,

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Speaker 1: Jada said into the camera, quote about Oscar Night, my

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to heal, to talk this out and reconcile,

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Speaker 1: she said. With the state of the world today, we

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Speaker 1: than ever. Well, first of all, your impersonation is fantastic,

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Speaker 1: and I love it it is. I don't know, Jada,

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Speaker 1: Do we do? I need them? I like, I don't

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Speaker 1: But we need them. We need them both together, do we?

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Speaker 1: They're not Zelenski in Ukraine? Like, do I really need

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Speaker 1: Will Smith? Jada the arrogance and I get it to

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Speaker 1: and also doing it on your own show is clever.

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Speaker 1: That that's clever because she wants to promote her own show.

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Speaker 1: this at our you know, robbed to your point. You

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Speaker 1: would you think this is the way to approach it?

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Speaker 1: I would say to address it, I wouldn't do it

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Speaker 1: lou Hey, Loopy. Let's get to the polls. Yesterday we

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