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Speaker 1: Thank you for your coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 1: But what.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that I'm like you said, you had

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Speaker 2: people that you were cool with until you started making money,

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Speaker 2: until million dollars worth of game took off, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, as long as we right here,

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Speaker 2: Gilly and Wallow right here and everybody else right here,

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Speaker 2: we cool. Heydt by dog while on Gilly go here,

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Speaker 2: they still there.

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Speaker 1: While Gilly go here and you go here, you go here.

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Speaker 3: Man, I hate no, not just that people don't understand. First.

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Speaker 3: Once the money's cut off, then it's the time you

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Speaker 3: don't kick it with me no more. You fake no, bro,

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Speaker 3: It wasn't about me kicking, which is about the money.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it be that, but a lot of times new levels,

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Speaker 3: new devils. Man, You understand, this is a year, real deep.

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Speaker 3: A lot of things change. When you build an infrastructure,

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be people that's gonna be like, man, shan

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Speaker 3: I need you to do I can't do that right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm building my stuff because people stop stopping, stop worrying

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Speaker 3: about what you got. Personally, you don't have the people

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Speaker 3: that hit you up. You all right, ainything cool, You're

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Speaker 3: taking rest.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're eating right, what's going on? How you

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Speaker 3: you don't have it no more? It just be about

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Speaker 3: paper sometimes. And I ain't saying anybody about that, but

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Speaker 3: that shit get lonely because now you become sometimes you

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Speaker 3: can become paranoid because out here everybody want to live

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Speaker 3: that lifestyle. Social media sees.

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Speaker 1: You got yeah, because I mean, I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: They say six percent of only six percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: make over us make six figure. I say, man, everybody,

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Speaker 2: every profile I go on on ig making six figure,

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Speaker 2: that's a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's deep. I think it more like ninety percent making

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Speaker 1: six figure. Its gotta be on. It's deep.

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Speaker 2: It's deep, or somebody lied. I mean either either a

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Speaker 2: the economists or no.

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Speaker 3: The problem is people don't know how to prioritize. What

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Speaker 3: people would do is they'll be spending outside of their

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Speaker 3: means and then they want somebody else to take care

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Speaker 3: of the responsibility. That's the that's the game we live

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Speaker 3: in People would do anything for a picture man to

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Speaker 3: take that picture and post Yes, why you.

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Speaker 2: Go rind of three four five hundred dollars just to

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Speaker 1: No good will. You know why they do that?

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Speaker 3: Wallow, Yeah, you spend all that money where you could

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Speaker 3: have just jumped in and got a uh got a

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Speaker 3: nice ticket for nine hundred dollars the first class man

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Speaker 3: them private jets to me because that little area, the

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Speaker 3: little excuse me, the flight of see I went some

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Speaker 3: of Cranberrge. Do you see.

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Speaker 2: Now that you would come into some money so you're comfortable,

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Speaker 2: You're beyond comfortable. What is the first thing when you

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Speaker 2: got some money? You're like, damn, what's the first thing

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Speaker 2: you bought?

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Speaker 3: I was in my you know, it was crazy. I

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Speaker 3: didn't even realize it because it was so unreal. I

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Speaker 3: was driving in my uh I tested my uh uh

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Speaker 3: PRIs yep, you know about that. That's my baby driving

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Speaker 3: in that thing. And I was driving from Atlantic City

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Speaker 3: to Baltimore and uh a PRIs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How long did you take your day? No?

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Speaker 3: Bro ho one thing about the price one of the

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Speaker 3: best cars in the world, a PRIs fifty seven miles

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Speaker 3: per gawn. I had no unbelievable one of the one

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Speaker 3: of the smoothest cars I drive. That's how I came

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Speaker 3: up being Gill. We used to be in a priest,

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Speaker 3: went it back and forth to New York, bought all

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Speaker 1: But go to you, fad, No, we don't.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot. Prince is one of the best cars

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Speaker 3: that I ever had in my life. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: I mean? It was. It was just great prius high

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Speaker 3: the DOCU sign come across for the dreamt sign. It

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Speaker 3: I'm just driving. I forgot about it, man, And then

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Speaker 3: it was like me and the Gil was in land.

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Speaker 3: That's when I first caught COVID. Right, I caught the COVID.

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Speaker 3: I ain't know what it was. I was just in

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Speaker 3: atlant I was sweating in the bed all night. I

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Speaker 3: my account to she Shine. I fell out the bed.

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn. The first thing I thought about,

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold I said, I gotta.

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Speaker 1: Put some money up the little box.

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Speaker 3: And shit, right, they're always hitting people off. Grandma Mom

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Speaker 3: hit people off and stuff like that. But it was like,

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Speaker 3: of months later, I called one of my advisors, John

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Speaker 3: up with John Man, shout out to uncle west too Man.

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Speaker 3: I called him. I said, listen, what's up with taxes man?

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Speaker 3: How did that go? He said, come to my office. Well,

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Speaker 3: I went to his office. He said, I'm gonna get anything.

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Speaker 3: He called me like a couple of days later, I

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Speaker 3: me that I gotta give somebody name saying all this money,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know them what I was I was.

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Speaker 3: I was so mad at John. I'm sorry. John was mad.

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Speaker 3: He knew I was mad because any type. He called

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Speaker 3: me and I was like, what John? Every time I

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Speaker 3: seen this number, I got scared because I'm like, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 3: y'all get these people all this money? He said, you

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Speaker 3: down and put it up. Make sure we're gonna pay early.

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Speaker 3: That's how you know you get real money when you

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Speaker 3: gotta pay quarters. Oh yeah yeah. So I'm like I'm

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Speaker 3: in the car. I'm just holding my heart. And anything.

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Speaker 3: I ain't know what I was like George Jefferson because

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Speaker 3: I'm like all this money, so you know, but your

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Speaker 3: you buy a ship, man, you buy shit, you do

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Speaker 3: your thing. Then it's like you bought anything out, you

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Speaker 3: did anything, You got a watch, you got all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's just it don't mean it like I ain't evenna front.

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Speaker 3: I only look at the money. No more like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm more excited about just getting a deal and just

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Speaker 3: negotiating shit. That's forgetting me, just to see that I've

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Speaker 1: What's the dating life life? Now? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Dating is Dayton could be real easy and it could

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Speaker 3: be real hard because you're a meal ticket out this

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Speaker 3: like that. But that's that's always been easy for me,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I ain't date when

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Speaker 3: I was broke.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Man, I ain't remember one time Gil called me right,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the crib right and two to his wife.

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Speaker 3: They laughed, I ain't know she I ain't know. He

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Speaker 3: was on speakerphone. So he said, damn, what you doing?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: Ready going to date? Real quick?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: He said, damn where you going?

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Speaker 1: Right here?

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Speaker 3: I'm on this computer.

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Speaker 1: Man going on the date.

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Speaker 3: Man, I got a little little X and xx y.

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Speaker 3: I'm she like, what well are you? So when I

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Speaker 3: first came home, I used to shake the dice a lot.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You're gonna shake my dice

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Speaker 3: because it was like, man, you need money to date

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Speaker 3: and all that shit. Yeah, And he was like, man,

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Speaker 3: you I said, no, bro, I ain't got time to

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Speaker 3: be sitting on nobody's face when I got to get

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Speaker 3: my life together. See, I'm one of them boards as extreamist.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get my paper together, just like I tell

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Speaker 3: my nephews. Listen, nephew, get your money focused on yourself

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Speaker 3: forties you can live the greatest life of your life. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but dating is easy, man, And that's that ain't that's man,

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Speaker 3: It ain't. You ain't got to do too much.

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Speaker 1: You want kids?

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Speaker 3: I got a kid from my old relationship, right, my

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Speaker 3: ex fiance I took on day day I love you

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Speaker 1: Wow, she graduated too. I mean.

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Speaker 3: I think about it sometimes in there, like have another

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Speaker 3: you know, But I ain't in no rush you want

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Speaker 3: to get married. I don't know yet. I don't believe

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Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if that you know? Can

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Speaker 3: Separating with my paper man. I thought I was married

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Speaker 3: to my paper man. Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: the courtroom talking about date, talking about this that and

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Speaker 3: and you just gonna come and knock because you're gonna

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Speaker 3: sign this this But I don't even it's deep, man,

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Speaker 3: But but I you know, commitment, I ain't got no

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Speaker 1: Childhood. What is your childhood like?

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna tell you something. Man, I had a

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Speaker 3: crazy childhood, man, because I ain't want to listen mom,

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Speaker 3: great mom, great Grandmam. But I was so impressionable, man,

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Speaker 3: I ain't really. I don't even think I had a childhood,

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Speaker 3: to be honest with you, because I was always institutions.

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Speaker 3: I got locked up June thirty of nineteen ninety. I

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Speaker 3: was eleven years old for a couple of days, and

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Speaker 3: then I went on to spend five years with Juvee. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I spent five years in the juvenile system. Then I

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Speaker 3: I mean nineteen and a half to fifty two years.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I spent more time.

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Speaker 1: Inside hol hold up hood Up?

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Speaker 3: Did I catch up? I spent I did twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm forty five. No, I ain't catch up yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I spent more time in the sal than I did

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Speaker 3: the free world.

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Speaker 1: You named after your father Wallace Junior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wallace Roundstree. No, I ain't a junior. His name

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Speaker 3: was Wallace Rowntree. My name Wallace People's.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this did. What type of

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Speaker 1: relationship did you have with your father?

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Speaker 3: I just remember my father. He disappeared like around boring

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Speaker 3: seventy nine, probably like eighty one. We never knew what happened.

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Speaker 1: Is he alive.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's alive.

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Speaker 1: He never so, you guys have never reconnected. You have

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Speaker 2: Have you tried to find out what happened to where

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Speaker 2: he is? Are you okay? Are you cool with not reconnecting?

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Speaker 3: No, we thought he was.

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Speaker 1: He thought he was.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we think he did, but we don't know. But

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Speaker 3: I would like to have it. I would like to

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Speaker 3: kick it with him. I'm not the one that hold on.

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Speaker 3: If I see that nigga today, I'd be like, dag,

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Speaker 3: what's up?

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Speaker 1: Man? Would you know what he looked like? If you

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Speaker 3: I think I would. I think we'll connect, He'll probably

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Speaker 3: if you're watching me out there. I love to just

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Speaker 3: holding on to what happened. It didn't happen. Wow, what's up?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: And you know I'll just kick it with he. Make

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Speaker 3: sure you see my sisters and brothers and go from there.

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Speaker 1: What about your mom Oh my mom.

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Speaker 3: Right she right there, my mom. I'm gonna be watching this.

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Speaker 1: My mom.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me see what Jackie Money called Jackie

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Speaker 3: real quick. Man, she gonna be like you're on shake shake.

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Speaker 1: She know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: My mom might say something to you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what she might say because she oh man,

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Speaker 3: let me call my mom. Man, let me see because

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Speaker 3: she's something else. This is gonna be deep.

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Speaker 1: Now. You know she ain't busy.

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Speaker 3: Noah, she gonna answer watch this. She'd be ready. She

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Speaker 3: will so she kn'ta be like she better if she

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Speaker 3: don't answer this joint.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Mom?

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Speaker 3: Look you know him?

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Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. How you doing? I'm doing amazing?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: How you put your sexy voice?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: I told you when I'll be calling you don't be

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. How are you today? Your son dropping knowledge

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Speaker 2: on us? He got he does a great interview. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching the twenty seventeen egos because you know they're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna kick Hey mom, Hey mom, I told you this

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Speaker 3: will hold up. I told you by putting your sexy

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Speaker 3: voice on when I call you with people, you did that.

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Speaker 3: You did that with d I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: You did that with Prime till you tell me, hey

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Speaker 3: shaying it? I know what you I know how you play.

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Speaker 3: I know what's it's the difference with Prime.

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Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 3: Or you liked that activated he had in his head?

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Speaker 3: You like you used to like the balls with Jerry

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Speaker 3: Curls back in the day. Who was the bull you

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Speaker 3: he had the Jerry curll used to spray the activated.

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Speaker 3: Yes you did, Mom, I thought, you know why you

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Speaker 3: know you listen? You know I told Gil that you

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Speaker 3: was talking to random cutting hand because it was a

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Speaker 3: everything I love the only reason don't listen. Don't listen

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Speaker 3: on every day. I loved Gill. See he wasn't no

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Speaker 3: random cutting hen because he was walking. He left the crib.

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Speaker 3: He was walking. I said, man that my mom was

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Speaker 3: talking a ring. All right, man, whatever, alright, camera Mom

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Speaker 3: say hi to the camera. Mam, say mom, not the camera,

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Speaker 3: just say how to shave shape? People see you always

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Speaker 3: trying to get you, always try to get right. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna call you mom, when'm out here, let me handle

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Speaker 3: this all right, love you, I'm gonna call you all right.

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Speaker 3: I got you, man, I know I got you. Look

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Speaker 3: see she gets started. She like he's going, but I

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Speaker 3: got it.

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Speaker 1: Whatever. You were really close to your grandmother. I was

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Speaker 1: really close to my grandmother.

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Speaker 3: Whoo Nanny, Yes, Nanny special man Nanny. And you say

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Speaker 3: she's ninety, right, Nanny ninety, Nanny the matriarch. She holds

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Speaker 3: the family down. She was something special. Nanny is different though,

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Speaker 3: Nanny notter the ninety. Do you think I caught nanny?

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Speaker 3: Nanny was up baby, where you at? I'm downtown moving

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Speaker 3: and growl and said, old Nanny. Did you drive down there?

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Speaker 1: Wallace?

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Speaker 3: Why would I drive down? I can't put listen? So Nanny,

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Speaker 3: you caught the sub down there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What you think?

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Speaker 3: I remember by one time? I said, Nanny, just sit down.

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Speaker 3: Why you ain't got to I get you o. She said, Baby,

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Speaker 3: all my friends that stopped moving, stop moving. I can't

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Speaker 3: stop moving.

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Speaker 1: They died.

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Speaker 3: So she's now when she'll walk in here. I just

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Speaker 3: got some first new balance. She's like, boy, go get

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Speaker 3: me some new balances. I want some. I said, all right,

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Speaker 3: you know she'd be moving. But that's my baby.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's a problem like community, because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of talk that they're not enough black powerful

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of levels man. Section eight. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot of things that broke it up, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Broke it up, man, And a lot of

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Speaker 3: things that broke up the household. And you know the

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Speaker 3: problem is, shann I ain't gonna hold you man. We

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Speaker 3: think we don't need each other. That's our whole problem

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Speaker 3: is an ego. It's so we think we could do

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Speaker 3: everything by ourself, yes, and it's like we can't do

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Speaker 3: it by yourself. I can't do it by myself. You

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Speaker 3: ain't doing this? Is not if they knew all the

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Speaker 3: we beef too much to black women and brothers. We

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Speaker 3: just always find a way not to deal with each other.

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Speaker 3: But the way it's just not like each other to

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Speaker 3: be mad at each other and it's like, it ain't

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Speaker 3: that deep. We gotta be here for the babies, right,

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Speaker 3: I just think we just gotta work it out on

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Speaker 3: some type of way and stop looking at Instagram and

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Speaker 3: think everybody swear they could do that shit by themself.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here by myself. I got a team, right,

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Speaker 3: I got people that believe in me, and that's the

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Speaker 3: whole thing. But everything, you know, raising a kid is

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Speaker 3: very important. I don't think you could do it. Nobody

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Speaker 3: could do that by therself.

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Speaker 2: You know what was what led you to first become

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Speaker 2: you a juvie at nine? I think you first came

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Speaker 2: in contact with the authority at the age of nine.

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Speaker 1: What what? What? What did you do?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Robbery?

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Speaker 3: Snatch some snatching? Jury. I wanted to be Shannon. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to be a criminal because that's the only people

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Speaker 3: that got respect in the neighborhood. I told you the

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Speaker 3: story about like them, the only people that got respect

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Speaker 3: of the crown game. And when I seen people come

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Speaker 3: on from the penitentiary, the love they was getting, it

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Speaker 3: was like damn, Like they get more loved to the

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Speaker 3: people that come on from college. So I needed to

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Speaker 3: be somewhere in that ecosystem. Of dumb stuff, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't understand what it was because I'm just a kid,

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Speaker 3: and I'm impressionable and I'm trying to be down.

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Speaker 2: So at nine, you go you you you basically now,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you in juvie.

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Speaker 1: Was that the first time? Was that the first time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first time I was in jevy

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Speaker 3: that year they sent me away for a year, But

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Speaker 3: that was the first time. June thirty of nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: was the first time I got arrested, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? And it was it was just it was

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Speaker 3: a roll that I never got. It was like this

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Speaker 3: was it was like I was being prepared each step

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Speaker 3: for the penitentiary.

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Speaker 1: Right, what do you remember a boy, Julie, because you're eleven.

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Speaker 2: You say you're eleven, You go in for five years,

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Speaker 2: so you got five years to think about.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I ain't going for exactly five year. I

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Speaker 3: you understand this. Since June thirty of nineteen ninety, all

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Speaker 3: the way up until December, like twenty first, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: I'd never been out of the system. I'd never been

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Speaker 3: off probation, parole, like from that Jay June thirty, nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety Listen, I just got parton. Shout out to the

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Speaker 3: great Governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro. I just got parted.

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Speaker 3: I was supposed to be on parole to twenty and

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Speaker 3: forty eight. He just partned me because I got since

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Speaker 3: in nineteen and a half the fifty two years I

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Speaker 3: Like listen, I'm so used to being in the system

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Speaker 3: I found myself texting my parole agent, like listen, I

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Speaker 3: got to you know, boom boo boom, and I forgot

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Speaker 3: that I was off parole because I'm so used to

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Speaker 3: being on them. I forgot that I was off papers. Wow,

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Speaker 3: because I've never been off papers. So you got to

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Speaker 3: think about it. I've been through this whole process since

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Speaker 3: that day the.

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Speaker 2: Red School of psychologists and councilors labeled you criminal minded.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you a kid. But these the people that look

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Speaker 3: over our lives, that don't come from our community, that

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Speaker 3: don't know us and don't care to know us. They

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Speaker 3: just did to hear you out, I'm a kid, but

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Speaker 3: this is this is what they dmi. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know where they at, but I

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Speaker 3: know where I'm at.

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Speaker 1: Were you og in your neighborhood?

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Speaker 3: Never was I og?

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Speaker 1: No? I never.

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Speaker 3: I never reached the level. I was always a kid.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't get a chance to get that status

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Speaker 2: because by the time you like, how old were you

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Speaker 2: when you got incarcerated?

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Speaker 3: Eleven? The first time when you went to prison. When

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Speaker 3: I went to prison, I was seventeen. They certified me

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Speaker 3: as an adult. So what did you do on robbery?

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't enough to just snatch You had to

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Speaker 3: go in there with that piece. Yeah, because the peace

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Speaker 3: changed the game. I ain't but my stepfather shused to

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Speaker 3: tell me from the jail, don't mess with that piece.

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Speaker 3: It changes because that piece, that piece changed everything. Who

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Speaker 3: that piece changed everything, you know, and that changed anything

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Speaker 3: for me. But uh, Channing, it just was a lot

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Speaker 3: of I wanted to be down, man. The average person

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Speaker 3: in the street game wanted to be down, and they're

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Speaker 3: afraid to be themselves. They not no leader. Everybody told

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Speaker 3: me you're not no leader. You ain't dose shit. What

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Speaker 3: did you start new crime been here before we existed.

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Speaker 3: The average person is impressionable. I was impressionable. I wanted

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Speaker 3: I said, man, what I'm really not even built like that.

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Speaker 2: You got seventeen, you got sent away for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: When you woke up that day, tell me if you

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Speaker 2: can remember while, tell me when you got up that day,

439
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,720
Speaker 2: whether the typical day age morning got up, you know,

440
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if your grandma, your mom cooked breakfast

441
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,800
Speaker 2: or something. So what was different about that day? When

442
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,200
Speaker 2: did you decide to do what you were going to do?

443
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,960
Speaker 3: No? No, that day when I got you're talking about

444
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 3: the big bit. What happened was I kept getting away

445
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 3: with other robberies. I was already doing robberies.

446
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

447
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 3: I used to hit.

448
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 1: I used to hit.

449
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 3: I ain't never regular people. I used to hit establishments,

450
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,920
Speaker 3: all those regular joints, going there, get the manager to

451
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,360
Speaker 3: open up to save for the weekly earned, usually be fifteen, twenty.

452
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 1: Five or whatever.

453
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 3: So I already was getting away with it. So the

454
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 3: day that I did that was just a normal day

455
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,439
Speaker 3: of me doing it. It's just that day day I

456
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 3: got caught. So I thought I was invincible because I'm

457
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: making some money. I'm like, man, I'm making some What

458
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 3: are you doing with the money? Nothing? Just buying a

459
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,360
Speaker 3: bunch of dumb stuff, buying clothes, gambling? Uh, giving money

460
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 3: away to the homies? My all that type shit.

461
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 2: Bro, you running too the status. They chased you for

462
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 2: ten blocks, They hit you with the car, they take you.

463
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't run no faster than that. No, send the

464
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,920
Speaker 2: comp catch you with all that girl. He got a ball,

465
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 2: he got a gun. He gotta know what happened once.

466
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 2: What happened was, Man, that adrenaline hit.

467
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 1: Man.

468
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't in a good getaway.

469
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 2: Man.

470
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be like I thought it

471
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 3: was like the movies and shit, I was gonna jump

472
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 3: over a car and man, that shit ain't work.

473
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 1: Man.

474
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 3: And they came from anywhere. I was like, damn, where

475
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 3: they where you come from? Cuff me up, through me behind,

476
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 3: it threw me in the joint. I was like, Damn,

477
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm gonna get about it. I mean, I'm

478
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 3: a juvenile.

479
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: You juviet your seventeen year, they're gonna try to I got.

480
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 3: To that district and the lady said, he understands third.

481
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you're gonna go up you gotta they said.

482
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 3: She said, yeah, You're gonna go up to the State Road.

483
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm going to U study said, why

484
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 3: am I going to State Road? Oh no, that's where

485
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 3: they sent a juveniles just certified as adult.

486
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: Who who who you talking about?

487
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: But where I'm not no doubt, I'm a kid now,

488
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 3: I'm a kid. She had my life changed that day.

489
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: I said, oh shit, they sent me to the big house.

490
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: But they put me with the other juveniles. So I

491
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: had to have a hearing to get decertified. When I

492
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: go to get de certified, Denise Leerto, this was an

493
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: habitual offender probation officer that I had my whole my

494
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: whole juvenile time. There's a certain unit because I always

495
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: always got locked up.

496
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: Right.

497
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: She walked in that courtroom. H I think she was

498
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: an FBI agent by then, and she talked about me

499
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: in that courtroom like, yeah, I think it's the juvenile

500
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: system can't serve him any good. I don't think he

501
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 3: needs to be going back that way. What I was like, Damn, Man,

502
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: I went in that show that day and cried.

503
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 4: Man.

504
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I want to be a boy again.

505
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 3: I want to be a kid again. He said, no,

506
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna deem you adult. And then then I knew

507
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: I was gonna get real prison time. That's when it

508
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: got real. Shanning, we scared. Listen. I was shaking like

509
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: a leaf in a windstorm. I was scared to death

510
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: because I'm thinking about the movies. I'm thinking about I'm

511
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: a little, small little guy. What I'm gonna do. I'm

512
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: telling me. I was scared, like I'm talking about, scared

513
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: team to death. It was a different type of fear.

514
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: You know.

515
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: Yes, you mentioned that you didn't take a shower with anyone,

516
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: and you wore boxes.

517
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: Y'all wore boxes. When I went down there, I didn't

518
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 3: know it was a gun show. I go down there,

519
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: everybody you know like like y'all locker rooms. Yet y'all

520
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: locker rooms is like PENITENTI I didn't know. Yeah, y'all

521
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: be on some shit and that sports joint. Y'all button

522
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: neckd ass. Now, come on, man, y'all on the same thing.

523
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 3: As a penitition. So I'll go down there and got

524
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: a boxing on. They're looking at me, like, what you doing?

525
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: Man?

526
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: It was just scared then that day I told like

527
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: I told Charlton, and I said, man, I realized the

528
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: shower wasn't that important. After that, I could just wash

529
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: up in my saint for a while, so I get

530
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 3: use to this going down there. Right, it was scary, man,

531
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: I was scared to death.

532
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: Shannon, you met your day. Did you get in any

533
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: fights in prison?

534
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: Nah?

535
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: I never got in a fight in prison because I

536
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: was too scared to get in a fight, meaning I

537
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: wasn't I wouldn't make no confrontation. I'm not doing no

538
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: damn shit for what for what?

539
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: There ain't nobody try you. I thought you had to

540
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: fight like No.

541
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 3: It ain't like that. Ain't nobody gonna go with you

542
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: like that. I had this one dude, this old head dude. Man,

543
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: he washed my laundry one time. Right, I didn't know

544
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: what that was about. I'm like, damn, I told you

545
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 3: he'll tyke aveying joys. I said, Yo, I come back

546
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: my laundry nights, my stuff all folded up, it's on

547
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: my bed. I'm like damn, because when you come in

548
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: the yard, the laundry boys come out. So I didn't

549
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: know if I wasn't suposed to get my laundry wash Shannon.

550
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: So he washed my laundry and it was a little

551
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: goodies on the bed too. So I'm like, damn, this here.

552
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 3: He put some goodies on the nutty bars. It was

553
00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: a nice little package. But listen, listen. I'm like, damn.

554
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: So I tell my old head, damn man, it's John Man.

555
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: They be fouring your clothes, he said, who folds your clothes?

556
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: So I go to the joint. I show him the

557
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: whole spread and anything. I'm like, man, cause I'm like,

558
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: as soon as they lock, damn, i'ma eating my little snacks.

559
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: I'm cool, right, I'm thinking. I'm like, it's it's up man,

560
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: shiit my old head with what's his name? All of

561
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: the old head, don't don't be the young boy boy

562
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: no I had. So he was lining me up. I

563
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 3: ain't know he was lining me up. I ain't know

564
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: what was going on. Them snacks looked mighty good on

565
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: that on that bed, though.

566
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: Who gives Let me ask your question, who giveaway free

567
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: stuff on the outside? What makes you think it's gonna

568
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: be free stuff on the inside.

569
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 3: Man, I wasn't thinking, man, I just was hungry.

570
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: Good thing.

571
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: I didn't even get the commensay because I wait for

572
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: the money to come from and get on my counsel.

573
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I was gonna eat it though. But

574
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't.

575
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: Been over for you. Bro.

576
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 3: No, my old head probably got me. Old g probably

577
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: got me out of it. But it was crazy.

578
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: You ever have beef with the guards?

579
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the back and forth. I used to

580
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 3: have back and forth for guards and stuff. But it

581
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: wasn't like it wasn't nothing like you know what I mean,

582
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: Like the one that told me what he told me

583
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: I said, But it wasn't nothing crazy. I was trying

584
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: to get out of jail. I wasn't in jail. I

585
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to be in jail to get deeper in jail.

586
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Being the whole.

587
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to do all that shit. What's the

588
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: craziest thing. I mean, So, what's a typical day. What

589
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: was a typical day.

590
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: Like for you? You get up at what time?

591
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 3: I get up early in the morning, five o'clock four.

592
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: I used to work in the kitchen, especially later on

593
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: in my time. This By the time I get seasoned

594
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: in prison, I'm getting up working during the morning breakfast.

595
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: Before then, I was doing the night breathf I'm in

596
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: the night dinner. But I just get up early. I

597
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: always get up early. Go to the chowd hall. At

598
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 3: the chowd hall, you go back, lockdown. They run yard.

599
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: After they run yard, y'all come back in, lock back down.

600
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: You can come back in shower, do whatever. After working out,

601
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: lock back in, do count, lunch, after lunch, yard. After

602
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: that you come back in shower, get ready for mail.

603
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: They passed the mill around, lockdown, do count, then the time,

604
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: come back yard, block out, whatever. But usually in between that,

605
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 3: somebody might get hit in the head with a wait.

606
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: Somebody might get stabbed, somebody might get raped, somebody may

607
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: kill herself. There's multiple things that might happen in the day.

608
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: And you seeing all this, and you like, lord, yeah. Uh.

609
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: When I first seen somebody, first seen somebody get stabbed

610
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: in the yard, I ran in the cell and I

611
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: was in the cell with a brother named Umar. He

612
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: told me, man, you're looking at this stuff with a

613
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: with a nenked mind. Huh, I said, what you mean,

614
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: so basically educated me that I had to go insane

615
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: in order to stay sane and to protect my mind

616
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: in prison. And it was it was it was a

617
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: It was a blessing that he educated me about that,

618
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: because now when I seen somebody getting stabbed, I didn't

619
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: look at it like Damn White's stare. I looked at

620
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: it like, man, that's day, got a problem, that's their business,

621
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: keep walking. You became desensitized like that you had to become.

622
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: If I did not have been done, my brain would

623
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: have been cooked, probably have been on medication. All the

624
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: stuff I seen from anked from looking at it from

625
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: a nick and eye that have been different. Wow.

626
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: So the craziest person are the crazy people in prison

627
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: or I mean there's people that are like mental like

628
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: they really need something in that particul people that pretend

629
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: so you don't bother them, or no one bothers them.

630
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: I think I didn't seen people going there that wasn't

631
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: crazy to start getting on medication and they be on,

632
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: they be gone. I knew people that I knew personally

633
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: on the streets get on medication. Don't even know who

634
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: you are no more. Because a lot of people trying

635
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: to escape the reality of life. And but you got

636
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: people that is mentally ill, they got mentally al blocks

637
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: already for them. That people that's really like you know

638
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: what I mean.

639
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: Prison food. You said you worked in the kitchen.

640
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's the typical meal?

641
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: What's so you for breakfast? What are you getting for breakfast?

642
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: Like me? You know, I was talking to one of

643
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: my homies other day. You get bulled eggs, some grits, toasts,

644
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: some jelly, some jelly packs, some butter packs. Any other

645
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: time it might be some some liquid eggs, I mean

646
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: they scrambled, you might get them sometimes, it depends. They

647
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: might get Friday is out. It depends what institution you at,

648
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: but it's mostly oatmeal stuff like that. Do you get seconds, No,

649
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 3: you ain't supposed to get seconds, but sometimes somebody might

650
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: just go down and give you the trade. And it

651
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: depends on all who in the line and if they

652
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: shaking the dip or if they giving you a heavy ration.

653
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: It depends what prison you at. Stuff like that.

654
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: You you say you worked in the kitchen, so yees,

655
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: you're cooking yourself. Yeah, I cooked it myself too, but

656
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 2: I was a chef. I'm really a chef like I'm

657
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 2: a train.

658
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: Do you cook like? Now? Do you cook for you? Cook? Now?

659
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: I cook? Now I cooked for myself. I went to

660
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: Corney School. Shout out to Steve Delly from South Philly.

661
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: He was my instructor. He was a chef in the navy,

662
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: and he taught me how to do my thing. And

663
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: me and my homeboy Psycho from Uptown Philly, we used

664
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: to be the night cooks and greatest for a penitentiary.

665
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: We used to be in there cooking a real meal.

666
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: You gotta cook for five thousand men, so you might.

667
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: We got pounds and pounds and pounds and pounds and

668
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: pounds of beef, big kettles, big paddles I'm talking about.

669
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: But you kept a little something for yourself. Take back

670
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: to the.

671
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: Always we canna make something on the side, and then

672
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: I canna make something in myself. So it was it was,

673
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, I good.

674
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Did you get tattoos while you were in prison?

675
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: No, I ain't getting no tattoos while I in prison.

676
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: All my stuff already, I ain't messing with that.

677
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: So while you're in prison, So let me ask you.

678
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: So you have a TV. You had a television room, radio, cable.

679
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: When you're watching television, what do you dream about? What

680
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: do you think about when you're watching television in yourself?

681
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: I used to be watching Anthony Berdein or Anthony Bourdain.

682
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: I used to be thinking about traveling the world and

683
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: just seeing everything because I was like, damn, this dude,

684
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: this dude used to be on drugs and anything, got

685
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: his life together. He moving around. So I used to

686
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: watch him like, yo, man, I said, man, I gotta

687
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: get out there. I want to see the world. You

688
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean, That's what. And then I used

689
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: to always watch the Food Channel, I mean the travel channel.

690
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: These at a the hundred best Ride. So I used

691
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: to be looking at food like damn, you know what

692
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: I mean. But it was about, you know, getting out,

693
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: being with your family and just seeing life.

694
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Do you have pimpals? Did you have girlfriends that write

695
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: you letters and listen?

696
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: I was on Friends Beyond the Wall, Meeta Inmate dot com,

697
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: I was. I was on all of them joints.

698
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: Man, did anybody come see you?

699
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: No, I ain't come see me, but they'll send me books.

700
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: We'd be writing love letters back and full lying to

701
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: each other.

702
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Did you meet did you did you see any of

703
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: them once you got out.

704
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: No, because because it'll be like all right, it'll be

705
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: like this, you'll put a picture up there, right, and

706
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: then a lot of times this before catfish was catfish. Okay,

707
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: somebody catfish because they've never seen your pictures. Sometimes you

708
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: don't know who you're writing. Right, So I'm in Pennsylvania prison.

709
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: They'll put you on the jaw me meet an inmate,

710
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: or because you'll pay, take the money off your books.

711
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: You write a little bio. My name Mike. My favorite

712
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: color is blue. I like horseback riding. I like to

713
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: listen to the whispers. Likes right, so you you know. So,

714
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: so what happened is you will send the picture off

715
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: and the money and they'll put you on and then

716
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: people just be searching it. And then you might be

717
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: talking to you in Pennsylvania. You might be talking to

718
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: a woman from Parkland, Portland's he'll write you and then

719
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: you had to do you know what I mean. You

720
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 3: have some dudes that will be on there. They'll get

721
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: a picture. One of these dudes. Pay a dude in

722
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: new Yard when he's husky muscled up. Yeah we goo,

723
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: swabby boy, let me get a picture. Man, I pay

724
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: they'll send that picture and all the women to be

725
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: writing now and they'd be, you know, doing anything off that.

726
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: It was deep? Did men? Did you? Did you?

727
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: Did you ever see or hear or notice that the

728
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: inmates having sex with women female guards?

729
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: I did? I had, I had, I had, you did

730
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: without a doubt. Come on, I had my shot. You know,

731
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: I ain't you know, talk about the facility. But I

732
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: had a shot and it was, it was, it was,

733
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: It was great.

734
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: So once you did that one time.

735
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: No, it was a couple of times.

736
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: But nasty rats.

737
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: What I supposed to do? I was shaking the dice

738
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: my whole bit. What I supposed to do?

739
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: How you look? You looked good, She was all right,

740
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: she was all right. You reach out. Once you got out,

741
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: it got.

742
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: A little roughie, it got a little crazy. But you talk,

743
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: you know.

744
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: She had a man?

745
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Did you something like that?

746
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I know, I know it, I know it.

747
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was getting excus meant thinks he did least

748
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,560
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Speaker 1: The gillis breakwomen the prison.

773
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: He brun somebody for me one time and I ain't

774
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: even know.

775
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Can't you go a visit? No?

776
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: No, So listen, we had this one spot and he

777
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: brung He brung somebody there. She had his dress on, right,

778
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: But we kicking it. I'm so excited to seeing we

779
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: kicking it so much. He will really tell me till

780
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: like the end of the visits, like damn man, you

781
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: know that, because because it was like they'll let you

782
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: go up in the in the porter potties. Heah, dizzy

783
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: real quick. Really, it wasn't like you supposed again you

784
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: had to shoot him a little sub Yeah, he tell me, yo, man,

785
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: you know what. I'm like, nig why are you telling

786
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: me it's almost over now?

787
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: The joint the potty should have laid off with that

788
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: hit wallow yep.

789
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. He did that.

790
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: He did it being raised visit you in prison.

791
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came to see me. He came up one time.

792
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: I called Gil. They was together. He's like, man, I'm

793
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: gonna come see you brother. I'm like, this is me. Yeah, yeah, brother,

794
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm a bother to be up there. He came through

795
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: these Holly used to come out kick. We used to

796
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: be laughing. And he just was a good brother man.

797
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: And then we you know, connected on the outside, always supportive.

798
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Man.

799
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: He's a good person man.

800
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: When you had you say you had your brother, was

801
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: inn you share a sale with your brother? You said

802
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: you share a sell with your stepfather? Did you ever

803
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: look like what kind of life is this?

804
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

805
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: It was embarrassed. I remember one time when I called

806
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: Nanny and me and my brother was in there, and

807
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, Nanny, Steve up being there, we

808
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: even sell. The call was real different. It was real difference.

809
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: He said. That was embarrassing. Like it was like it

810
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: was real different, you know. And I always thought about

811
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: him when I was in jail. Like my grandma ain't

812
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: got nothing to brag about with her grandson's you know

813
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: how people be at the church and all that. Yeah, yeah,

814
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: my grand baby going to college. You gotta get quiet

815
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: about us, you know what I mean, because we is

816
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: always in some shit.

817
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: You know, when did you realize that? You know what,

818
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: when I get out of here, ain't coming back.

819
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: Them conversations with Nanny's really done. It you know, you

820
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: think about that, and then especially my brother died. I

821
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: knew I had to step up. I knew it was

822
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: game time. But the craziest thing is the most scariest,

823
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: the most the scariest day of my prison bit was

824
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: the day I walked out of jail. Really, man, that

825
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: was the scariest shit of my life because everything that

826
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: I told my grandmam, my mom, my family that I

827
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: was and I became, it wasn't proving yet because I

828
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: didn't have no temptation to see if I'm really who

829
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: I am now. So I'm coming home, I'm like, I

830
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: gotta stick to the script. Don't on fall victim to

831
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: the temptation, on fall victim to the bus.

832
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: Stay focused.

833
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at nineteen ninety seven. When you

834
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: went in, you had a you're a kid, you're seventeen,

835
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: you're a teenager. Yeah, now you come at your thirty seven.

836
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: The world is different, the word is really really different

837
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: since you last was outside.

838
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Of those walks. Yeah, what was the scariest thing that

839
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: you encountered?

840
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Because now you you're not really free, You're just on

841
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: the outside.

842
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: They still got that paper when you wallop.

843
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know what was the hardest thing

844
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: outside of that, And this was crazy and Nanny and

845
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: you know, you know, Nanny was Nanny was messed up

846
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 3: because first of all, everything looks small when you get

847
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: home because I'm in these wide yards, big big, So

848
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: I'll get to the block and after you know, abody

849
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: anybody go, anybody leave me and Nanny in the house.

850
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm sitting there and we talked, we

851
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: laughing about something, and I'm gonna step. I'm gonna step

852
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: in the house and Nanny sitting in that chair and inside

853
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: of the house, I'm gonna step, and I don't know

854
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: what it was. It is out of nowhere. I said, Nanny,

855
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: where Steve at? Well, I ain't coming, and I caught myself.

856
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: See I never went to my brother funeral, so it

857
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: just was a reaction. And now the way Nanny looked,

858
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: it was like, cause I'm talking to Nanny. Nanny sitting

859
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: in the sitting on the chair, the chair right next

860
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: to the door when my brother died that he died

861
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: right there in the doorway. But it just that was

862
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: so hard because I realized I went upstairs and I

863
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: was like, dam And it was for a while I

864
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: used to walk the streets in Philadelphia listening to Sanfra,

865
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: greatest artist ever Sanfra, and I used to be looking

866
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: for Steve because I used to be preparing myself for

867
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: the conversations or the funny shit I might see him,

868
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: like wait till.

869
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: I tell you.

870
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I always just say that I'm gonna tell Steve, gonna

871
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: be tripping off this shit. And it went on for

872
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: a while, It went on for a minute. But I

873
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: used that was hard. That was like one of the

874
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: hardest things coming home, like realize, like damn, because I'm

875
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: so used to him and he just so this dude

876
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: was funny. He was a nut. I'm talking about you

877
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: think Gil's a nut. They like right on night and day,

878
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: like there's always on some great shit right straight out,

879
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: will say all types of shit like he was crazy.

880
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: So but that was like the hardest thing. Everything else

881
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: was like I had a supportive agent crew Lock. I

882
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: had a supportive parole agent. She It was crazy. I

883
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: never knew somebody would believe in the person, like She's like,

884
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm not worrying about you. I got a caseload, I

885
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: got other people. I really got to worry about you.

886
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna be no problem. She just told me that

887
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: shit out of nowhere, I'm damn it. And anything I

888
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: want to do anytime I wanted to travel, she supported me. Wow,

889
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about She had my picture when I got

890
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: on a fill up her daily news from she had.

891
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: I went in the office one time, she had my

892
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: picture on the wall that art. She's like, you're gonna

893
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: do great. I've been looking for it for years. I

894
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: can't find I think she moved somewhere a supervisor, but she.

895
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Was that.

896
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: How difficult was it for you to get re immigrated

897
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: into society after being away for two.

898
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: Decades twenty thirteen and fourteen, I had a cell phones

899
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: that's when I first started Wild Tuesday seven, Instagram and

900
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: a joint So that helped me see the world for

901
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: years straight a eighteen mins sumption, but I wound up

902
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: getting caught got a charge for that. They added some

903
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: time to me, but they ran a concurrent. But that

904
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: helped me see the world. So it prepared me a

905
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: lot to see what was out here. But one thing

906
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: that I seen that was out here, I said, man,

907
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: people out did playing games. And I realized from that

908
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: cell phone looking at social media and anything. It's more

909
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: people in prison than it is in prison on the

910
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: free world. People minds wasn't expanded. I said, I'm gona

911
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: kill them when I get out here, because I always

912
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: thought about my content on what I was gonna do,

913
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: because I already had a social media page, and I

914
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: remember I used to be in the lard yard talking

915
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: to people, and I was a part of a brotherhood

916
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: called Real Street Talk. Shout out to them Brothers in

917
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: Greatest for a prison where we would talk to the

918
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: inmates when they first come in, that's coming in and

919
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: basically give him a real street talk about listen, man,

920
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: make this your last time in the joint Boomo boom

921
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: with some good brothers Shannon Ike, Shakur Sharif, a bunch

922
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: of a bunch of just good brothers. And I was

923
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: a part of that, brother Rob Ecks Hick and I

924
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: was a part of that. And I was so used

925
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: to talking to people. So when I got on Instagram,

926
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm just do my thing on air. But I knew

927
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 3: I was gonna do it different. I'm gonna run across

928
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: the street when I do it, I'm gonna lay on

929
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: the ground head catch up on my hair like I

930
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: got shot, and I'm gonna do it because it's a

931
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: battle of the timeline. When I'm in jail looking at

932
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: the time, I'm like, oh, so you only look at

933
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: this person because she buttonneck it. You look at him

934
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: because he a rapper, You look at him because you athlete,

935
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: this one because he got money and jury. But we're

936
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: the regular people connecting with the regular human connection. So

937
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: I got a battle with all this shit. I got you.

938
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: I'm run across the sweatway, have my my try power

939
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: right here in my phone. I'm gonna do my You're

940
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: gonna think that you see the eighteen will come. I

941
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: knew I had to do different type of content with

942
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: my messaging, but I had some great messaging, I said.

943
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: I got the different departments on my page. I got

944
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: the messaging. I got the marketing side where I'm advertised businesses.

945
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: Then I got to speaking branch. While I do speaking

946
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: to get so I'm looking at that joint I'm building business. Artist.

947
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: When you're on probation, what are some of the things

948
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 2: par I mean, parole, what are some of the things

949
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: that you can't do?

950
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to be around feelings? Okay, sometimes your

951
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: family might be feelings. You ain't supposed to be around

952
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: drugs and all that. So me, I'm it was a

953
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: thin line because I'm like, damn, I'm playing by the

954
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: book best way I can. Because you know, Gil's smoking

955
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: that good weed all day. So I said, okay. At

956
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: the same time, I said, you know, I got to

957
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: make sure I got a marijuana card so I could

958
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: be a lot you know. It was a lot of things,

959
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: you know, But I always had parole officers that was

960
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: that that that appreciated what I was doing. Shout out

961
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: the agent Cruise, my last parole agent, that just was

962
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: so supportive.

963
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: Man.

964
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: She was she was. She was so happy to call

965
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: me to let me know that I was all parole.

966
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: She's like, she was so excited. It was unbelievable. Man, sister,

967
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: what does two sixty seven mean to you? Two sixty seven.

968
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: That's my prison number. My prison number was DG two

969
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: six seven.

970
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

971
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: When I go to set up my Instagram page, whiler

972
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: was taken. So I added the two sixty seven off

973
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: my prison number so I could remember where I came

974
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: from and where I ain't going back to. It just

975
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: so happened that since I was in jail, the Philadelphia

976
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: area code turned to two sixty seven two, so people

977
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 3: thought that, but no, that's my prison and my prison

978
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: number is d G two six seven er.

979
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: Is there something that a habit quirk tick that you

980
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: developed in prison that you just can't shake down?

981
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Are you a light sleeper? But do you sleep or

982
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: are you a peaceful sleeper? Or man?

983
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: I sleep like it ain't nothing. I was sleeping like

984
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: that in jail. It no matter, did you Yeah, because

985
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: the door was locked, sharing it ain't get up and

986
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: they can't get me. Then they locked that door. Everybody

987
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: locked down. But I was always up before the door open,

988
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So you wasn't doing I'm

989
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: laying there, you know what I mean. So I ain't

990
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 3: want to you know what I mean. I ain't want

991
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: to do that. I said, no, you ain't gonna take

992
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: my goodies. But I'm saying this, h like. I always

993
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: found myself preparing the conversations. So a lot of times,

994
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: and Gied will always see me doing that when I'm

995
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: ready to do a video or something. You say, ain't

996
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: mean you over there talking to yourself? Said no, I'm

997
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: just getting ready, you know what I mean? And but

998
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 3: not not too much outside of that.

999
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: When you came home, what was the conversation. What do

1000
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: you remember your first conversation with Gilly? Soon as I

1001
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: came home he picked you up? Did he pick you up?

1002
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: No?

1003
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: He picked me up. Shout out to my sister lot TV.

1004
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: She picked me up. But Gil, when I come home,

1005
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: I get because as soon as I get with him,

1006
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: he like, cuz do you.

1007
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Do you?

1008
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: And he looked me. He looked me in the eyes.

1009
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: He said, cuz you done? Wow, he said, let me

1010
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: he said, He said, is you done?

1011
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Man?

1012
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: You know how he talked smoking this?

1013
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: You done? Man? You done?

1014
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: Nigga?

1015
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: Like you tired?

1016
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: Yet like I'm saying, I said, because I'm done man

1017
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: and ship he said, he said, man, I've seen the

1018
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: seeing they broke you in your eyes. I knew he

1019
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: was done because I was just like, I'm done because

1020
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Because because a lot of times we see

1021
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: our family members go in and out and you ain't tired.

1022
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: To you tired? And everybody lom clock come on different time.

1023
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: My loarm clock came on. It was game time. That

1024
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: shit over with.

1025
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, acting, you want to get an acting I.

1026
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: Don't know if I could act I don't know what

1027
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1028
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Bro, you went away for basically for twenty five or

1029
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: your forty plus years. You've been inconstrated. You come out

1030
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: and you can do anything. You just said. You can

1031
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: do anything that you wanted that you set your mind too.

1032
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was on a shout out to

1033
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: Easta Ray. She had me on our show. Rap shit,

1034
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: I did a roll on there. You know, everything is possible.

1035
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: You seem to be of a situation where like you

1036
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: don't care. I mean, somebody might say something foul to

1037
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: you off the cufor to.

1038
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: You, and you just let that thuff wrong.

1039
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I gotta go. I gotta keep Like my

1040
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: whole thing is this. I understand that everybody is entitled

1041
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: to a bad day, Yes, and sometimes they may have

1042
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: a bad day and I might just be there. I

1043
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: might just be there. It ain't got nothing to do.

1044
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: It ain't got nothing to do with me. Like alright,

1045
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 3: Fenson's you might get with this woman and she might

1046
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: come at you to try to play you or try

1047
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: to get you for money. It ain't got nothing to

1048
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: do with you. Was personally channing. We take things personally

1049
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: from people that we don't know. Personal It ain't got

1050
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with you. If it was me, if

1051
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: it was him, it was just the game. It ain't

1052
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: got nothing to do. So I don't be looking at

1053
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: things like because listen, you're not gonna provoke me to

1054
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: do thathing crazy. I ain't gonna do nothing crazy to you.

1055
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do it.

1056
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: You're the chief marketing officer of Reform Alliance with Jay

1057
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: z Meek, Mel, Michael Rubin, and Robert Kraft. Talk to

1058
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: us a little bit about this program. I was, I'm

1059
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: a former. Okay, there's a program. One thing about reform

1060
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: is passed.

1061
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: A lot of bills, the reform the prison of the

1062
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: probation and parole system right right, and a lot of

1063
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: people is on probation and parole. Let me tell you

1064
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: something about this. I could be on probation and parole

1065
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: and it's offered me to find a job. They'll send

1066
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: me back. I might have a dirty owin, they'll send

1067
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: me back. I'm talking about technical violations. But I didn't

1068
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: catch no new case. The police ain't locked me up.

1069
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: I might have a parole man or a probation officer

1070
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: that's riding me. Now you're riding me because of whatever

1071
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 3: you ride me because there's some people that's do transportation wise,

1072
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: I might can't get the way I need to get to.

1073
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: I might be late here. I might You didn't have

1074
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: people go back to prison for all types of things.

1075
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: So Reform Alliance is doing this. They're trying to reform

1076
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: this system to make it better that people is not

1077
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: going back to jail based off of technical violation. Okay,

1078
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: And that's what it's about, man, And they they doing

1079
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: a great job.

1080
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: When Gil's son passed away, Oh Man, you were the

1081
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: one that broke the news, and you knew, you know,

1082
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: not only did you know, you knew how close Gilly was.

1083
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Was that one of the hardest thing you've ever had

1084
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: to do.

1085
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: It was hard because I knew it was gonna be

1086
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: a struggle because we was at the radio station in Philadelphia,

1087
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: right and I'm in the bathroom of me like lo, like, yo,

1088
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: what's uping? Man? Jee's got shot? I said, what opened

1089
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: the door? I said, what who? Jee's got shot? So

1090
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: immediately I jump on the phone. I called, you know,

1091
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: a call a family to fill up your police department.

1092
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, I put guilt on the phone. Right,

1093
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: So we drive he driving this car. We're flying up

1094
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: to the hospital. So here on the point. He's like,

1095
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm a check it to it.

1096
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm on it.

1097
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: This an other third boom boom boom boom bang. So

1098
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: when we hang up, meet him and Gil, he said,

1099
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm on the Gil. Hang up.

1100
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: People called me back and said call me by yourself.

1101
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: Keep Gil off the phone.

1102
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: I said, damn. So were driving.

1103
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: We get to the hospital. So we're in the hospital

1104
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: guild there cheege mom there, heybody up there, bunch of

1105
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: the homies there. I had my phone on vibrate. People

1106
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: call me, he said, listen. He ain't make it. So

1107
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm like this. I put the phone down, put in

1108
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: my pocket. I attempted to walk out of the emergency room.

1109
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: You see what happened, because it's up, because what's going on?

1110
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: Because and I'm walking and he keep following me. He said,

1111
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 3: cause what's up?

1112
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: What's up?

1113
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: And I grabbed him. I said, he gone, damn dam

1114
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: That was the most craziest shit I ever had to do,

1115
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: you know, because I said to myself, I'm gonna slide

1116
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: out of this door. And the people because the people

1117
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: was back there playing games like the hospital people. They can't.

1118
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 3: So when our people called this the police, they telling

1119
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: me what it is, I'm like, so, I'm like, I

1120
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: can't tell him this. And I never seen Gil like that.

1121
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: After that, it was just it was it was it

1122
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: was crazy. It was it was crazy, you know. But

1123
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm thankful that we got a strong family

1124
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: and uh, you know it was hard. It was hard.

1125
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: Man, Where are you on this man?

1126
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: Because you know, we heard a lot of talk about

1127
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: this illuminati and when Gilly lost his son, people were like, well,

1128
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: he had to sacrifice his son because that's why he

1129
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: came into all of this. I mean, white people say

1130
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: bulljib like that.

1131
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: Black people love black failure and black success is only

1132
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: it only come Black success only come when you do

1133
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 3: something crazy. White success says, Oh he's great, he's smart.

1134
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Bill Gates, he's smart. Jeff Bezo, he's smart. You know

1135
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: what I muss, he's smart.

1136
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: You're black.

1137
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: You sold your soul in our community. There's so much

1138
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: hatred with success because so many people that want to

1139
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 3: be stars and they ain't make it. You think people

1140
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: was happy for me all that. No, people ain't always

1141
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: happy for you. When you went that's a package deal.

1142
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: The package deal is when the excitement that comes from

1143
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: black failure of people not winning is unbelievable. Like, so

1144
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: people are sitting back like, damn, you had to do something. No, No,

1145
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: Shannon had to do some shit all because you gave

1146
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: up on your dreams and you abandoned your dreams and

1147
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: you ain't strong enough to the next level. So you

1148
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: don't even believe that it's possible. A lot of our

1149
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: people don't believe that they could be millionaires. They don't

1150
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: believe that this shit is possible. They don't even believe

1151
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: that shit. They believe the only way you get to

1152
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: the next level is you go in some magical room.

1153
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen them joints yet. I've never seen

1154
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: the parties or none of that shit. I just know

1155
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: hard work will pay off because you know you put

1156
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: the hard work in, God gonna bless you. But a

1157
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 3: lot of people don't believe that shit. So certain conversations

1158
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: they don't believe. Like I had a conversation on Gilbert

1159
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: Arenas podcast and I said, you can make basketball contracts. Damn,

1160
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: there a hundred million office sitting behind the screen this

1161
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: that the third is a new game. Just so he

1162
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: understand that me and Gilbert understand that. Yes, you probably

1163
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: understand that. But one of the homies called me he

1164
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 3: was already in the barbershop, sa, yo, he be tripping,

1165
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: Wallow said, I said. He said, damn, man, I want

1166
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: you man, I'm trying to take your face out and that.

1167
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: I said. No, it's not my job to check them.

1168
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: They're not in this world, so they don't understand the

1169
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: mechanics to that correct. People don't know what just know

1170
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 3: how to say, Damn, I ain't know that was going on,

1171
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 3: or damn I don't know that world.

1172
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: It's hard for people to just see farther than what

1173
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: they can touch. Yo.

1174
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: In a lot of times, it's hard for people to understand.

1175
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: It's painful to see that. Damn Gilling and Wallow making

1176
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: all that money just being them. That's hard. There ain't

1177
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: no football players, they ain't no actors, They just them.

1178
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: That's hard. So you know ship like that, come.

1179
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: What's your NFL and basketball teams? Who you root for them?

1180
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: Whoever wins. But I'm gonna take this, I'm gonna say this.

1181
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this this year. My favorite player in

1182
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: the world is say Kwan Barkley. Uh, and you know what,

1183
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: it's a little chrisy he call you bad wagon. He

1184
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: said it was a little shot. I'm like, damn, man,

1185
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: you're my favorite player. What type of why would you do?

1186
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: You a favorite player?

1187
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: Now? No, no, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this.

1188
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: This is the first time in the history of life

1189
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: that I never I spent the whole season groom for

1190
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: a team. You see what I'm saying, Like, I never

1191
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: do that. You know, playoffs, I go back and forth,

1192
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But this that's my team day,

1193
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: my team, Boston Celtics, my team.

1194
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Right now we want last, I mean right now, we

1195
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: want I told you, I told you, I told my enough.

1196
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: Don't act up.

1197
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: You know how I get y'all get goofy I leave. No,

1198
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: you gotta earn, you know, listen, listen, you gotta earn

1199
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: for me to be a fan. That's that's losing ship.

1200
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: How do y'all people be staying with these teams and

1201
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: they don't win. I don't understand that ship. I told

1202
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 3: Dave and them there, I said, y'all are losers. Y'all

1203
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: Dave telling us a while or you got a new

1204
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: team all the time, I said, dave y'all losers holding

1205
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: on the teams. That's disappoint yall. I'm not dealing with

1206
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: this ship.

1207
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: I move around. Talk to you. Talk about your relationship

1208
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: with coach Prime.

1209
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: You've got a very good relationship, very close relationship with

1210
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: coach Pran, coach Brian Will.

1211
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: Little lot of people in it, Sir.

1212
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm one of the first people in the world that

1213
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: Coach Crime told that he was going to. It was

1214
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl Atlantic, Atlanta. Me and him came. We

1215
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: had to talk on my show Where's Wallow? But on

1216
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: the side, I'm one of the first people he see

1217
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: he was coaching. I said, coach, if you coach because

1218
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: it was another teammate, I said, me and Gil coming weather.

1219
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: He said, my dogs, you know heal my dogs. And

1220
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: when he got Jackson stage on he cuched face timed

1221
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: me and Gil. He said, man, you know I'm going

1222
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: onto Jackson. So matter of fact, we was talking on

1223
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: the call, and we were talking on the call, I said, damn, man,

1224
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 3: I was hiring at my brother Matt Burns and Matt

1225
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: Burns and them, and I was I was trying to

1226
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: get him a deal at barstool, right. That didn't go

1227
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: through whatever because they had other things going on. So

1228
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling Prime. I'm like, damn, man you, Prime said,

1229
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: what get me a show? Over the dog? I called

1230
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: Dave Yo, Dave listen, I think you need to talk

1231
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: to Prime. He said, well, Prome, you know what I'm

1232
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: saying this Prime Time. Oh he won't do an interviewers. No,

1233
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: he trying to get a show each time. Get the

1234
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: out of here wild though, Man, Yeah, you know you

1235
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: get out of here Prime Time. Then I said, yeah,

1236
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: I said, hold on, let me mardere you man put

1237
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 3: he man Erica, he listen. Pro put him on. Next

1238
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: day Eric can come. He said, I'm on. I'm on

1239
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: the jat right now. I'm going to see Prime right now.

1240
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: I got to deal them and the process of that

1241
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 3: getting done, He said, Jackson, you gotta take like five

1242
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: planes to get to Jackson, Mississippi. Man, we get down

1243
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: Jackson right So when we get down there, all type

1244
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: of shit happened, the water not working, Prim and Prim

1245
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: and the kids in the pool taking had to wash

1246
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: up in the pool. All this type of stuff getting

1247
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: real though. Prim say, it's a job, dog, I gotta

1248
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: do it, though, Man, I gotta take care of these

1249
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: baby these kids down here. Man, I'm talking of the

1250
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: locker room. Was old it everything was prom took his

1251
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: own pocket, called some friends up. Got it done. Were

1252
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: going down there a game can every time we're going

1253
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: down there, many times possible. Gilly for some reason, I

1254
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: thought he was a player on the team and the coach.

1255
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: This is what happened. So so we're on the sideline.

1256
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: Boy take off running. Gill start running with him. So

1257
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: I always got I gotta watch him, so I want

1258
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: I go down running with him. Dude, throw gild the ball.

1259
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: He spike it.

1260
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: He don't spike the ball? Right all right? Dancer? He snapping, Yeah,

1261
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: I said, cuz they just got a flag for you

1262
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: spiking the ball. Man, he said, he gave me the ball.

1263
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 3: What I said, because you wasn't supposed to spike the ball?

1264
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 3: What he said, No, Man, I was in there. That's

1265
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: a part of the game. You did it. I said,

1266
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: you're not playing though, Yeah, you're not a part of

1267
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: the gay prime say, wowlow, come here, he said, what's

1268
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 3: the matter with Gilly?

1269
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: Man? Gil?

1270
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: Come there and coach my bad? You know what I mean?

1271
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: So they tell you. So now every time we come

1272
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: to a game. I gotta watch Gil. But we went

1273
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: down there and put we had to put love around

1274
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: prime Man. We had to make it and nobody was

1275
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 3: going down there but us, and we was like man,

1276
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: we coming and it turned into something man.

1277
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: Advice, Give me a couple of pieces of advice that

1278
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: you want to impart upon black men, black women, our

1279
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: community twenty five and beyond.

1280
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: Learn how to communicate. Learn how to communicate. That's number one.

1281
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: Communication is the glue to keep relationships. Is the better together,

1282
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: and it's also the glue to growth. Understand that everything

1283
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: is not gonna go your way in life, and when

1284
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: it don't go your way, you don't have to buck,

1285
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 3: you don't have to snap. Work on your composure because

1286
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: a lot of time the look is the hook. How

1287
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: you react to things is very important. And a lot

1288
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: of times that know that know what mean next opportunity

1289
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: some of the greatest. It's a lot of information. Decide

1290
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: to know because once the no's come in your life,

1291
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: figure out why is the know is there? Move around

1292
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: the world is your playground, so go play. The world

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: is bigger than your neighborhood. The world is bigger than

1294
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: the mentality that you might have based on the environment

1295
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: that helped produce you and the things that you know.

1296
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: It's a lot of information out there. Save your money

1297
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: and your money and save you all the fun that

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: you want where you at, being with your boys and

1299
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: all that shit, A lot of that stuff you want

1300
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: to outgrow. So right now, work on yourself. While you

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: in the twenties coming into the work on yourself. So

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: I'm telling you because when you get into your late thirties,

1303
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: you want to be in a position where though you

1304
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: got something that you could lay on, you got something

1305
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: you could call your own, and then you position to

1306
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: travel the world do what you want to do or

1307
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: however you have it. Don't you want to be able

1308
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: to count on you. Get out your mama house, all

1309
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: your basement warriors out there that's staying in the basement,

1310
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: staying with your get your own get your own stuff, dog,

1311
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: get all your own stuff, folks, I'm talking about get

1312
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: your own stuff. Say, get your credit together, get your

1313
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: identification together, save your money, get your own place, get

1314
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: your own vehicle, and explore. The more stuff you see,

1315
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: the more new relationships you have, the more new conversations

1316
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: you have, is gonna help you get to the next

1317
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: levels of life.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for stuffing by.

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: Hold up, I got some more stuff to say. Sham,

1320
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: what do you want to say? Go ahead right here,

1321
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: piafew listen. We got a lot of things going on.

1322
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: Check out million dollars worth of game. Check out Gillian

1323
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: Wallow's Adventure. We got another Gillian Wallow knockout party coming.

1324
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: We got some more shows coming. We ain't gonna announce

1325
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: them yet. There's a lot of stuff coming. But check

1326
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: out anything man, perre a few man, go out there

1327
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: and get my book on Good Intentions everywhere. Books are

1328
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: so instant New York Times bestseller. Go ahead, go ahead

1329
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: and saying then you go, but you're gonna listen. You're

1330
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: gonna bench press like six hundred. Now it's different. I'm

1331
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: going to go bitch press this pillow. Oh man, that's

1332
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: up ral strip club video where he was preaching.

1333
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: To the Yes, oh yeah, you went viral. You were

1334
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: preaching to women in the script club.

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Speaker 3: No, what happened is I went in the strip club

1336
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: with Gil. I was down Baltimore and just so happened.

1337
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: I'm in there drinking me a ginger rale on the rocks,

1338
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 3: light rocks, not too many and uh just so happened.

1339
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: A couple ladies start talking to me, so we start talking,

1340
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: and then and willow that shoe, So we start talking,

1341
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: we start kicking it. So I'm talking to him doing

1342
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: my thing, and I'm just seeing Gil talking to the

1343
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: manager dude like like basically saying what I'm doing, like

1344
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: I gotta like go get wildow. So Gil, come on,

1345
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: don't even know when they work it. No, we were

1346
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: just having a conversation. I'm listening there having a conversation

1347
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: about life, about next levels and just stuff like that.

1348
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Speaker 1: That's the right time to have that conversation.

1349
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: They wanted to have it.

1350
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Speaker 1: I was drinking.

1351
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: I was minding my business because I wasn't there throwing

1352
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 3: the dollars and none of that. I was chilling, you

1353
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Matter of fact, the one girl

1354
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: paid for my ginger round. So I don't know what

1355
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: was going on. I just was in there minding my business.

1356
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: Got kicked out of the strip club because I was

1357
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Speaker 3: having the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I thought you supposed to go there to have conversations

1359
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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened. I had the conversation about seven dancers.

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: It was a great night. And then he went picking

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Speaker 3: a girl up on a rough rawdy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bro, what's going through your mind? I mean

1364
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: you keep talking about it. You talking about gillies spiking

1365
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Speaker 2: the ball, Bro?

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Speaker 1: I mean this boxing. I mean, bro, what's going through

1367
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: your mind when you picked up young lady up?

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Speaker 3: No, see what happened was let me break she. See

1369
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: what happened is I was minding my business. You always

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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: buy your bit. So when she came over there and

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01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: she was doing some dancing. So me back in the day,

1372
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Speaker 3: they used to call me dim this before the DM

1373
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: dancing machine. So it just hit in my mind. They say,

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Speaker 3: you know she was in the air, just throw the

1375
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: girl in the air. It's spinned it like you just

1376
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: don't care. So I got flashbacks back in the day

1377
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: and it was on. I thought I was at a

1378
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: block party, you know what I mean. I just I'm

1379
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: just doing my thing.

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Speaker 1: Threw your hands in the air.

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: No, it was throw the girl in the air, waving

1382
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: and spinner like you just don't care. So I spun her,

1383
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: grabbed her, threw her back up. It was it was

1384
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: I missed that version of the song. No, that was

1385
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: a remix. I did it myself. It was in my mind.

1386
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: But it is what it is, man. The thing when

1387
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: he was in prison, who was y'all select and.

1388
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: Crush everybody that's on the outside.

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: Pinky was my celebrity crush. I actually met her, Pinky

1390
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: the Point Star. She was on my wall.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Pinky.

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: You knew Pinky, you meant him with the pink here, Man,

1393
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: you knew the other girls? That one, he says, that girl.

1394
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: I said, Man, he knows something here, the one girl

1395
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: with the short head, man the star, she was a

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: you know, come on, Shannon, you know.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know me. I'm o unt boy. Man, I

1398
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: just stayed in my life.

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Speaker 3: That's the one that's them being dangerous, the most dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for stalking about, bro.

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01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: Well, appreciate you, man, Thank you man, appreciate you. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: you all.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, muscle.

1405
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: Paid the price.

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 4: One slice got the brother All my life. I'll be

1407
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 4: grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice,

1408
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: Muscle paid the price, one slice.

1409
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: Got the brother.

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01:02:32,200 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 4: All my life. I've been grinding all my life.