WEBVTT - Miranda Inside and Out with Cynthia Nixon... 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:10.040 you a Charlotte? So when you think about I mean, 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.000 I have so many questions, I don't even know where 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:12.320 to start. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:13.200 But like, if you. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.480 Think about, can you remember before Miranda and you would 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.160 just go about your life and no one would recognize 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.720 you or people would randomly recognize you from different things. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.560 What was it like in terms of being in the 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.799 world you mean before our show? 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.120 Yeah, yes, I feel like again because I was in 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:36.040 this pretty successful movie when I was twelve, right, I 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.879 have no no, no little darlings later Also, I mean 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:46.560 Oscar Oscar, right, So I always had a certain, very 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.519 manageable number of people got it recognizing. But so it 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.840 was lianforable. It was like a little a little salt. Sure, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.240 it wasn't like an entire meat loaf. It was like 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.080 a little sauce, right seasoning. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:00:59.400 Yes. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.679 And then do you remember when the show started to 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.160 air and people started to watch it, more than like 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:10.960 three quarters of the people that would come up to 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:11.800 us were black men. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.560 No remember this? No, it was so I mean fascinating. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.160 And I don't think it was just me because we've 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.679 all we all used to talk about it. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.120 It was weld in the very beginning days. Uh huh. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.960 It was like, surely you're not our demographic, right, what's 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:29.640 going on? 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.840 What amazing? But it was fantastic. Maybe it was the 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.240 guys who wanted to watch the boxing on HBO, That's 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:35.600 what it was. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.840 Oh wow, it was the live sports event, so it 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.160 had a very bail And I don't know. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.680 So let me ask you this because this is something 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.920 I think about when I watch it, like in terms 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.960 of the sexuality stuff, like the actual sex scenes, you know. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.000 And I struggled with this myself, which is coming up 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:54.560 is when I locked myself in the dressing room but 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.320 it hasn't happened yet. Did you think about I mean, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:01:59.760 you were. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.760 Very Are you fearless and not? 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.840 I'm afraid at all times in the sex scenes to 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.440 the point where I would be like, maybe I need 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.280 to go when Cynthia is filming sex scenes so that 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.480 I can tell Eigenberg do not grab her breast like that. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.560 You remember this? I was like, why do you grab 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.200 your breast like that? You're like, what are you talking about? 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.040 I'm like, it's not attractive, it's like too hard. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.440 I eded to tell him that you were like whatever, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.920 you know, which I love about you, but you know, like, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.600 did you think about, like, what, what what. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:27.520 Are we doing here? 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.840 Is this for the male audience or is this for 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.040 the female audienced? What I'm saying, like, yeah, I guess 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.280 I always. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:44.720 I always thought it was kind of I always thought 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.600 that it was for the female audience primarily, but I 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.920 thought it was like it's like maybe this is a 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:58.480 crazy similar but it's kind of like birth control, right, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.720 It's like really important for us as women to have 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.160 birth control, right, Like, and the guys are like, you've 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.120 got birth control, this is fantastic. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.840 We can have sex. You're interested in having sex? 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.320 Right, this is you know, it's kind of like, I mean, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.680 I feel like it was so empowering and maybe it 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.560 was a little on steroids from the reality for most women, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.600 but it was happening out there, and so men, you know, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.040 I think for men it was like a like it 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:35.640 was not only a wonderful peek into the secret world, right, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:40.240 which was fascinating, but it was also like there is 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.280 this very old and it has some truth to it, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.040 but it's not the entire truth, right, there is some 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:52.400 sense of like women use sex as a tool to 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.240 get commitment, right, and it's like for men to be 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.160 shown this world and these people, it's like, actually, you 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.800 know what, you also just really like having sex with 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.360 you right, right. It's sort of, I think, a wonderful 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.320 thing for men to learn because they had been told 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.560 the opposite so many times. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:19.039 It's true, and I do feel, unfortunately weirdly like that's 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.200 still out there in a strange way. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.920 Well, and it's not completely untrue. I mean it's yeah, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.800 I mean that there are you know, I mean, both 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:31.599 things are true. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:32.360 I guess that's true. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:33.960 I Mean the thing that's funny to me though, is 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.640 like if you think about then and then you think 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.920 about now, like you know, hook up culture like young right, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.480 it's very very more advanced, like the dating apps, you know. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.320 Whatever, even much more so. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.240 Right. Obviously, I don't know really anything about the hookup 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.320 culture that's happening now right right, And And I guess 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:59.440 my my thing that seems to me different than our show, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.400 right is like women can and always have had a 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.400 lot of sex, but I think not one hundred percent 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.200 of the time, but by and large the sex that 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.760 these four women were having. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.680 Was not was not to try and get men like 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.000 that that's a good point. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.400 Yeah, And so that's what I worry about the hookup 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.560 culture now. It's like, you think you're very liberated because 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.919 you're having a lot of sex, but are you do 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.560 you want to be? 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.560 Are are you having sex because you want to? Or 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.440 are you having sex to try to get something? 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.400 To try and get like a different version of like 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.080 trying to get a ring. It's like, does he like me? 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.760 Willly really not call me. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.159 If I don't? My god? 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.760 Yeah? Which is like so Charlotte also with the with 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.359 the off the butt thing, right, Like she because she 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.400 doesn't want to do it, you know, right, she really 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.919 likes that guy, you know, and then and she thinks 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.200 like he's just going to break up with her or 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.000 not marry her or whatever. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.960 It's like so crazy, but it's both, right, It's interesting. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.320 It's like she worries he's going to break up with 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.000 her if she doesn't do it, but also she's not 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.880 really at the moment interested in it right as a 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:08.840 thing in and of itself. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.720 But also it's like. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.960 But if I do do this, will he respect me? 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.800 Will he he will never marry me? 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.680 Right? And also because Samantha very smartly in the car 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.200 is like in the cab, she's like you know, and 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.160 you talk about the power dynamics like it's super fascinating. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.760 I mean we're touching on all of it, you know, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.400 in such a good way that I do feel like 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.960 is still true, you know, like are you doing it 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:30.760 because you want. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:30.960 To do it? 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.440 But also you need to think about like someone's going 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.559 to give up the power and you might have more power, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.760 but you might have less power. Like it's super fascinating 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.280 and still I think so interestingly true. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.040 Right right, And I think you know, if you think 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.919 about Samantha, who is like the most empowered, right, the 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.400 most sexually free, but also just the most empowered, yes, right, yes, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.840 but there are you know you see the pain that 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.920 she had, like particularly when she's dating Richard. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.920 Yeah, you know you know that that there is even 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.520 for the strongest character. You know, well even in Valley 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:10.560 of the twenty something guys. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.280 You know she's with the chef guyd Do you remember 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.640 that he's like lanky, he's got like long, choppy hair, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:15.560 and then. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.280 She'll always be older. Yes? Right? That cut right? That 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.080 cut for me? That cut deep? 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.320 You know, I mean it's so interesting how many small 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.760 moments we have in almost every episode that I'm. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.320 Like, oh, well, that's and that's the thing that was 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.160 so great about the show, you know, is that because 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.760 again people saying, like, did a feminist show, but you're 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.040 wearing high heels and sexy outfits. Like right, It's like 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.520 one of the great things about the show is that 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.680 all of the characters, not the least of Carrie, you know, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.360 are all deeply flawed and make bad decisions. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.400 And so, you know, I love wonder Woman. I've always 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.280 loved wonder Woman. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.440 Yes, we love that you love, but I have my 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.120 wonderfolan backsack here today. But I know, and I have 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.560 always known, that Wonder Woman is a very two dimensional figure. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:10.440 Good point. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.320 She's perfect, right, she's loving, she's strong, she's you name it, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.360 she's gotting getting an A plus definitely, and I enjoy her, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.760 But I understand she has no dimension, and she's really 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.160 not that interesting. Right, And that's the thing about all 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.760 of our both in the writing and in the playing, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.160 the thing that you were talking about before the contraction. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.679 You have the headline of who the character is, but 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.720 right below the headline they're all the the contradictions and 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.880 the price to be paid, even like for Charlotte. Charlotte 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.480 is trying so hard to buy into the fairy tale 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.920 of being the perfect girl and doing the right thing 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.480 and winning the gold ribbon. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.720 Of the of the engagement, ransom husband and the ring right. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:03.880 But she, you know, she's constantly having that myth kind 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.439 of eaten away, most definitely, and also when particularly when 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.640 she tries to get married and then doesn't know no, I. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.400 Work out the pie in the face, you know. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.280 Michael and I talked a lot about the pie in 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.000 the face and how all of us get our own 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.440 version totally of the pie in the face. We also 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.360 talked about the complexities of the character, because I do 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.040 feel like there's this crazy thing about carry not being likable, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.680 which is, you know, kind of insane, because I don't 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.760 know why we would still be, you know, like, well. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.520 But it's why it's so we're so lucky to have 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.360 Sarah Jessica. Yeah, It's like, it's why we're so lucky 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.480 to have you playing Charlotte, because in someone lesser hands, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.040 she would have been more. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.960 Two intentions, right, I mean I think so all I 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.959 remember at the time, because, as you know, my life 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.960 is not like Charlotte's life. No, basically at all. There 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.600 are some crossovers, but I was never interested in getting married, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.120 so like that took a lot of work on my 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.280 part to be like, ah, you know, but I do 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.480 think I mean, they didn't know this, you know, like 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.320 this is kind of the magic. There's a certain element 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.720 of magic and all of our coming together, you know 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.120 that they didn't, you know, like we never read together. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.880 We never really met, you know. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.719 There's no chemistry reading, I know, no, nothing, So thank 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:11.480 god it worked out. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.280 But we do have these characteristics that are very good 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:15.920 for our character. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.680 We've got the characteristics, but then we're also very complex 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.200 people and also very different people coming together from different places, 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.840 which I think contributed in a positive way to what 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.760 was on screen. You you don't need to know that, right, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.679 You just feel it when you're watching it, right. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.720 You know what my mother used to say about the show, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.720 She said, you know what I like about your show, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:41.199 and watch it. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.960 I can tell who everyone is. They don't all look alike. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.079 I'm not confused, that's true. I don't know what. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.040 I think she's talking about, how television, because I was 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.839 talking about this a little bit too, like there was 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.520 a homogeny, you know, like a. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.440 I mean, we're all white obviously, and we're all of 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.559 an age. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.000 But even that was different, right because we were all 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.760 of an age. There was no other show other than 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.840 the Golden Girls, you know which I mean people. I 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.160 remember going to an interview. I can't remember, Oh, I 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.680 do remember who it was. I shouldn't even say this, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.920 but I walk out. It's a guy. It's a late 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.760 night thing, and he goes, oh, you know, you guys 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.440 are the new Golden Girls, and I was like mad. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.320 I was so mad, and I was like, now I'm 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.440 gonna have to go through this whole interview, mad, And 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.560 then he asked me about penis size. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.840 And I was just like, we're on Earth. Like I 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:31.640 just remember. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.640 Getting put through so many bizarre, like embarrassing and complex 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:36.920 things where you will want to be like, do you 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.640 not know that that's kind of like offensive? Like I 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.480 guess you're trying to be nice, but like, really were 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.280 the Golden Girls? 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.720 Like really like okay, but that there. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.840 Was just nothing to comparison to. There's just nothing. There 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.600 was just nothing. And because we weren't twenty five, and 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.480 because there were four women, right, even though it wasn't 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.559 clear at the beginning, but it became more and more clear. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.480 You know that each of us were going to kind 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.360 of get fleshed out and have that and have our 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.880 own lane, right, and she would connect us, you know, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.920 with the with the voiceover and all that. Oh, let's 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.360 ask you this, what did you think about talking to 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:06.840 the camera. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.480 I love the top of the camera. That is why 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:11.240 we love Cynthia. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.240 I know I always hated it. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.160 Yeah, I love it. Why. I don't know. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.600 I always, whether it's on film or on stage, when 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.480 a character turns and talks to me. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.640 You love to break the fourth wall. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.160 I like to do it myself, but I love to 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.000 have it happened to me as an audience. Okay, okay, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.520 and you know you now you see it's slightly different. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.520 But you see all those shows like like The Office 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:42.000 and Modern Family and right where they're constantly like looking 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.480 at the look at the camera. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:44.640 Right while they're doing interviews. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.600 They're doing interview documentary right right right. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.640 It's a cute little Yeah. I never mind, I never 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.440 mind it. I mean, I know why I enjoy those 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.560 I don't really miss it in our show. I don't 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.040 really miss it once it's. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.280 Gone, right, No, I don't either. But I but I 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.920 I liked it. I mean, I think it's interesting. I 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:03.920 think it was hard. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.120 For Sarah, uh, partly because she's in a massim Yeah, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.680 and also because of the Mathew thing with it, which 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.640 I didn't even remember, but it makes total sense. But 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.120 like when you watch her, I think it's the pilot 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:14.160 of the first episode. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.439 She's in a scene and then the guy gets in 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.240 the cabin. She turns and talks to the camera like 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.080 it's a very heard that I never did. I never 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.520 have to know that, but I would do that. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.880 I mean, we would just we'd have our scene where 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.439 we were talking to the camera and you're so funny 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.360 in the pilot when you're talking to the camera with 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:29.120 the chicken. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.520 With the chicken yeah, oh so you know. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.040 I think also I think it was her unhappiness and 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.000 maybe other people's unhappiness with that that made it go away. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.520 But also when we used to do all those like 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.880 Man on the Street, Woman on the Street, Yeah, giving 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.240 their opinion about whatever the subject at hand. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:51.800 Way, I feel like they partly cut those because they 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.400 were just time consuming. They were hard to do, they were. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.320 Hard to do, and you always had to oh, we 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.559 had to cast it and then find a location. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.560 It's true, right, it's true. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.320 I mean that's why I love the basketball one because 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.640 they're in one place and it's all these different guys. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.240 And it's the guys in the episode. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.600 It's also not some random person that you're never going 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.680 to see again in the episode or anywhere. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.800 And that's a good point as well. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.400 Like as a as a you know, convention or whatever 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.679 you would call it, it was clunky in the beginning 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.960 because like you had to find different people to come 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.880 in and say X, Y or Z. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.080 There is in the pilot. Right, It's like it's a 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.560 way of being introduced to all of us, which exactly, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.640 which makes perfect sense. But yeah, it was hard to 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.120 keep it going. It was hard to keep it going. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.680 From our conversations, like two things that occurred to me 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.040 that I wanted to bring up. One was, you know, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.440 you were talking about the time when they asked us 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.360 what was like the body part that we felt about 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.120 or would like to change or whatever. And you know, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.320 there were, however many episodes there were before we had 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.600 any female writers. We just had Darren and then we 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.880 had and Michael Patrick. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.120 I think there was a female writer in La I 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.680 can't remember her name, Terry something, but we never met that, right, right. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.360 But so what I remember is there was I don't 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.720 remember what episode it is, but it's pretty early where 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.760 were we're talking about blowjobs and who likes them and 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.640 who doesn't like them? Yes, and remember they came and 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.600 interviewed us all no what because they were, you know, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.560 they were gay men, so they have their own opinions 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.440 about blowjobs, right, and their own relationship to it. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:31.200 Oh my god. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.800 But they really they were really kind of a little sheepish. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.160 But they felt like when you say they, do you 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.200 mean Darren and Michael, Darren and Michael, I remember Michael 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.080 specific Okay, okay, maybe. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.280 They might have come. I think they might have come together. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:45.960 Wow. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.280 Now, And they wanted to know, like, I mean, the 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.040 baseline question is. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.280 Women enjoy blowjobs? 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.920 Is it just something you just do to you know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.360 get along, you know whatever. So they went and then 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.960 they put different things that people upset or whatever, not 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.280 necessarily in the the person who had said it, but 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.640 right because they were like, remember this, because I think 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.560 every once in a while before we had female writers 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.600 that were in New York, you know, it was like, really, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.640 should we have women here. We really should ask them 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.640 because we actually don't know. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.280 I'm so glad that they did. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.480 On my flight yesterday, I was losing my voice, so 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.280 I was really trying to be on vocal rest because 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:32.040 I really wanted to have a. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:32.680 Voice to talk to you. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:37.880 Today, I'm watching Blue's you're watching what Blue? 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:38.720 Do you know? Blue? 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.960 Your kids are too old? Blue is in Australian cartoon. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.760 Do you mean like Blues Clues. It's new. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.000 It's really really good, Cynthia. Oh yeah, bluis dogs their dogs. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.480 Well like Blues Clues. No, it's not like Clues. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.760 It is a thing. It's a phenomenon. My kids are 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.320 fully obsessed. We've seen them all. But okay, it's the 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.800 type thing where I want to rewatch it. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:04.000 Wow. Yeah, it used to be for us, Yes, in 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.320 the early days, Yes, early SpongeBob. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.920 There's nothing better. I think it's true. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.760 SpongeBob had It was the one thing that our whole family, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.199 with all of our children at very different ages, we 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:15.200 would all watch it. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.200 It's a little lighter than SpongeBob. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.000 SpongeBob has kind of a verse of humor underneath. This 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.879 is more like somehow they're writing for the parents and 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.399 the kids. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:26.120 It's really good. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.960 So I'm watching that because I'm watching something like a 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.760 feel good thing, that's my feel good thing. And it's dark, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.840 you know, when everyone's sleeping around me, and these two 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.640 adorable young flight attendants come up to me and kneel down, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.480 and I'm like, you know, because I'm in the middle 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.399 of the Blue's right, So I pause the bluies, I'm 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.000 like yes, and they give. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.080 Me this note and then they skit her off and 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.000 the note. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.679 Is so sweet and I meant to bring it, but 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:55.639 it basically says, we just want to thank you because 0:17:55.680 --> 0:18:02.639 we were raised for better or worse on sex, and. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.639 And I was like, it's so gives me chills. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.720 It's like an incredible and bizarre thing to think about. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.080 Well, I write, I think we talked a little bit 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.200 about you know, boyfriend's girlfriends, husband's wives together watching it 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.800 being kind of a springboard for talking about sex. And 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.240 I think a lot of mothers and daughters too, and 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.879 again a great springboard. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.480 For like absolutely and who I mean, it just boggles 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.160 my mind to think about the origins of us, right, 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.320 and I mean, thank god, we I think all had 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:39.919 a sense of the wonderfulness, the power or whatever it was, 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.239 and we were hoping that everyone else would also get it, 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.800 you know what I'm saying, Like, and clearly HBO, thank God, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.520 did and let us, you know, have the space to 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.479 grow and continue. And then the reviewers you know, didn't 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.760 really which was also really interesting, but we kind of 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.919