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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? You welcome into it.

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Speaker 2: A Friday edition of Texans All Access from the Today

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: John Harris football sideline reporter for your.

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans, alongside the voice of the Texans who's blowing

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Speaker 2: into his hands as if it's cold in here, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Cold in how you doing, Johnny? It's cold in the stadium.

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Speaker 3: This is the little known secret of NRG Stadium that

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Speaker 3: the air conditioning blasts. I'm not complaining. Yeah, it's actually

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Speaker 3: really good in the summer, although when you come in

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Speaker 3: from the one hundred degree heat, you can, you know,

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Speaker 3: get the polarizing effect and you got to watch that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not complaining. But you were asking why I

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Speaker 3: was blowing into my hands. That's why.

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Speaker 1: No, I know you're not complaining. I get that. I

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Speaker 1: just this. This room is always sort of hot to me.

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Speaker 1: But then again, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's cooling off.

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Speaker 1: It was getting warmer a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Things happen temperature wise here that are great mysteries of

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Speaker 3: life and we don't really have control over them, which

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Speaker 3: is trying again, not complaining. One thing that is notable

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Speaker 3: is the smell has returned to more of a football

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Speaker 3: oder than the rodeo. If you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: I don't mind the rodeo smell, because ah, it's the rodeo.

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Speaker 3: It's here. I love the rodeo. But then the rodeo leaves.

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Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, it's time for the rodeo to go.

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Speaker 3: And now we're back to football, okay.

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Speaker 2: And football is where we're going tonight. Obviously, we are

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Speaker 2: going to talk with Jimmy Ward here in just a second,

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Speaker 2: but we're also gonna have Christian Harris who joined Drew

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Speaker 2: Dorty last week as well, So we got a few

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Speaker 2: minutes with Christian.

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Speaker 1: And in the lab that's Drew Dordy and myself.

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Speaker 2: We did our mock draft exercise and we obviously did

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Speaker 2: some trades and some things moved around, et cetera. But

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Speaker 2: we're gonna start with Jimmy Ward right here first because

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Speaker 2: we had a chance to catch up with him and

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Speaker 2: he just rocketed up the list of interviews that we

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Speaker 2: would do a second time, a third time, one hundredth time.

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Speaker 1: Here's Jimmy Ward with Mark and I.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy here, you are salty veteran, but after your first

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Speaker 3: year with the Texans going into year two. What are

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Speaker 3: your feelings thoughts off season? How's it all going?

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Speaker 4: Off season is going great? Just you know, been working

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Speaker 4: out and watching the ESPN and seeing all the you know,

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Speaker 4: the amazing moves that we're making right now for your agency.

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Speaker 4: You know, getting me excited, you know, rated from ot

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Speaker 4: as you know the you know, play play with your

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Speaker 4: new team, play with my new teammates and see some

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Speaker 4: familiar faces. And speaking of familiar faces, asease, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: get to play with him again. So that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So put on your general manager hat and give

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Speaker 2: us a scouting.

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Speaker 5: Reporter of disease.

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Speaker 1: Now, we saw him twice last year. We know he

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Speaker 1: could ball.

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Speaker 2: But you've been around him, you know him. What can

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Speaker 2: you tell us about his ease?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: He loves football, He cares about football a lot, and

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Speaker 4: he's he's real angry.

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Speaker 5: He's real, real angry. He plays with a chip on

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Speaker 5: the shoulder. Uh.

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Speaker 4: I just Mico really Uh. He coached him. He coached

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Speaker 4: him from from a young pup all the way until

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Speaker 4: he was older. Because Miko was his position coach and

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Speaker 4: he got the best out of him. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 4: And I know in front of asease. It was Drake

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Speaker 4: green Law and Fred Warner. But anytime he had his opportunity,

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Speaker 4: as he's had his opportunity, he went in and he

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Speaker 4: did what he needed to do. And that's the reason

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Speaker 4: why he ended up getting that starting job for Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 5: And he went over there Bald and.

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Speaker 4: Migo was I think Migo was trying to get him

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Speaker 4: that year before, and I don't know what happened with him,

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Speaker 4: Nick and Miko whatever, they couldn't get the deal done.

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Speaker 5: So he still had that chip on.

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Speaker 4: His shoulder, so he he left that chip on the

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Speaker 4: shoulder when he played against us. That's why he was

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Speaker 4: a tackling machine. And next thing you know, we're signing disease.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Jimmy Ward with us, all right. More general

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Speaker 3: manager scouting reports stuff on Daniel Hunter, who was.

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Speaker 4: Also acquired Danille Hunter. I watched a little bit of

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Speaker 4: his game. I feel like he feels the hole. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what we needed. Obviously, he's been seeing how

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Speaker 4: free agents have been going for us. Yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 4: interested to play with him. I haven't watched too much

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Speaker 4: FAM on it, but I heard good things about him,

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Speaker 4: like around other players around my piers around the lead.

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Speaker 5: So I really think it was a great pickup.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy from a safety's perspective in the NFL, and you've

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Speaker 2: been around for a little bit, so you know some

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Speaker 2: stuff when you play behind a pass rush that when

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Speaker 2: you add dan Neil Hunter to Will Anderson Penniko Autry

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Speaker 2: coming in, when you're playing as a safety behind that

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Speaker 2: pass rush, are you taking a few more calculated risks

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Speaker 2: because you know those guys are getting to the quarterback

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Speaker 2: or you trying to play it as straight up as possible.

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Speaker 4: Well, in this type of defense, all you got to

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Speaker 4: do is just do your job. But the crazy thing

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Speaker 4: is like eventually the quarterbacks either gonna get tired or

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Speaker 4: getting hit or it's just gonna, you know, get hit.

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Speaker 4: So that's when sometimes the balls just go crazy and

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Speaker 4: somebody gonna catch a pick. Whether it's the second level,

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Speaker 4: whe that's the cornerbacks, of whether that's the safety, it

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Speaker 4: just depends on It just depends on the play call.

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Speaker 4: But with that rush right now that we got and

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Speaker 4: then not only there are the rush plays the past,

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Speaker 4: but you know they're they're they're two sided. You know

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Speaker 4: they're gonna play the run first, you know. So that's

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Speaker 4: what I'm very you know, happy about just being able

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Speaker 4: like to have defensive linement, defensive ends, to play the

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Speaker 4: run first.

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Speaker 3: In the past, all right, so you were a part

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Speaker 3: of teams in San Francisco that would make the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: have some success and get back and do it again.

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Speaker 3: What's the key to getting back there, to getting back

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Speaker 3: to the big stage the divisional round. I know you

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Speaker 3: want to go beyond that, but it's hard to even

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Speaker 3: get there. So for a team, a pretty young team

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Speaker 3: that got there last year, what are these guys need

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Speaker 3: to remember everybody needs to remember to get back and beyond.

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Speaker 4: Just just remember that we you know, we didn't win

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really it, Like we didn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: And even if we did win the super Bowl, it's

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Speaker 4: a new year. So everything that you did in the

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Speaker 4: previous year, it doesn't matter, you know why, because everybody's

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Speaker 4: gonna forget that all that happened last season.

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Speaker 5: So now is about what you did this season.

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Speaker 4: Okay, everybody got a clean slate, no matter if you

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Speaker 4: had a bad season, no matter if you had a

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Speaker 4: good season, no matter if he was unhealthy, matter view healthy. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you get to do it again. So this time, that's

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Speaker 4: what people gonna remember. People gonna remember the last game

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Speaker 4: you played. So what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Jimmy and I talked to you after the Jacksonville game.

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Speaker 2: I asked for you as a player of the game.

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Speaker 2: You kind of looked at me like why, and I said,

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Speaker 2: because this defense plays different when you're in it.

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Speaker 1: This defense seems to play.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's your edge, whether it's your fearlessness, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: this defense sort of channels it with the way that

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Speaker 2: you played. And it was like Week three against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: You could see it on the field with you flying around.

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Speaker 2: Did you sense and do you sense how valuable that

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Speaker 2: is just that alone to this defense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't realize it because it was just

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Speaker 4: me being me and just me being around like uh

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Speaker 4: San Francisco where I played at a year before, and

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Speaker 4: I just remember like pregrame work, during the pregame season,

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Speaker 4: it was just we you know, when the DBS came

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Speaker 4: out with the fullbacks, you know, somebody said something. It

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Speaker 4: used to be juice juice to say something fullback from

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Speaker 4: tight end to say something.

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Speaker 5: Then we go back out there.

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Speaker 4: And then sometimes it's Kiddle that say something, it's Fred

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Speaker 4: that say something. But it's so many multiple guys that's

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Speaker 4: just talking and just you know, saying something. Sometimes you

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Speaker 4: that you're that you're talking about, that you're giving and

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Speaker 4: it might pick another guy up.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I was never a big robro guy at all. And

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Speaker 4: then it just when I got I just start started

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Speaker 4: to develop as I got older. But when I got

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, this is not this is not

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Speaker 4: gonna work. We need music and we need some guys

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Speaker 4: And when I did it, and I sat back down

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Speaker 4: in my locker and Shack never forget Shack Mason was like,

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Speaker 4: hey man, yeah, you're gonna have to start doing that

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Speaker 4: every game. I was like yeah, Lee. I was like

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Speaker 4: So now I was telling him, man, we got to

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Speaker 4: get some more people to talk. You know, it's cool

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Speaker 4: to hear somebody else, hear somebody else's voice.

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Speaker 5: So I was trying.

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Speaker 4: I've been trying to get Kristin to do it. I

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Speaker 4: to get Steve to do it. Just you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of nudge him, you know, push him a little bit, like, man,

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Speaker 4: just say something. You can say anything, like guy's gonna

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Speaker 4: live here, listen. You can keep it short, you can

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Speaker 4: keep it sweet, it doesn't matter. But when it's time

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Speaker 4: to break it down to the team, like in front

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Speaker 4: of the team right before the game, it's not It's

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Speaker 4: not many guys that want to do that or like

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Speaker 4: at like obviously you don't want to lose, but you know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes you gotta be that guy to break it down,

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Speaker 4: you know, after loss. And that's that's never it's never good.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't you don't know what you don't know

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Speaker 4: what to say. You don't know what to say to

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Speaker 4: a team, you know, to pick them up. But I guess,

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Speaker 4: you know, I play so much ball. It's like, hey man,

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Speaker 4: this is not the last game of the season. Uh,

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Speaker 4: we still got a lot of football left. And man, yes,

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Speaker 4: just you know, get back to the playbook. Go practice

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Speaker 4: hard and just win.

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Speaker 5: The next one.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Ward with us after was that the Denver or

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals game? When you got on the microphone with

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Speaker 3: Drew's it was Denver and you said, stand up, h Town,

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Speaker 3: we did this for you. It was great. It was

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Speaker 3: a very memorable post game live in the stadium interview

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Speaker 3: and uh. And I remember that moment and I think, well,

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Speaker 3: how is it for you, h Town? The whole spirit

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Speaker 3: of the city and seeing everybody respond to what the

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Speaker 3: Texans are doing, and how.

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Speaker 5: Do you like it here? Basically, Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 4: If you get back and on what you was saying,

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Speaker 4: I remember I said that, and you know what I said,

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Speaker 2: Exactly Jimmy's you go into what's this gonna be for you?

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Speaker 2: You were twenty fourteen, so this is year eleven. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 4: Uh, just to be around the guys, you know, That's

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Speaker 3: All right, Jimmy, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you for having me Mark. Jimmy is

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Speaker 1: It would be good.

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Speaker 5: In the lab.

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Speaker 3: But later on the podcast, right.

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Speaker 3: The Final Coaches Show, Final Coaches Show O'Brien. We actually

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Speaker 2: See if you remember twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, we did

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Speaker 2: We recorded two shows in case we got Tyron Matthew.

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Speaker 1: So we had that one. Hey, we've signed Tyron Matthew.

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Speaker 2: That night we signed Tyron Matthew, show was over, so

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Speaker 3: Sometimes we record the show, sometimes we record it.

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Speaker 2: So we always especially on a day in like April,

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Speaker 2: that that Friday. No, I did that show alone. I

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Speaker 5: You know what it was?

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Speaker 6: What it was?

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Speaker 1: It happened on like a Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I happened on Friday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Either way.

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Speaker 2: Everybody ready for that? No, you know what, I don't

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Speaker 1: Let's just play. We'll call it the scale.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a statement. You give me one

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Speaker 2: no way in hell ten absolutely rock solid guarantee. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: number one. The Texans will absolutely pick at both forty

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Speaker 1: Scale one to ten. Oh so one is ten is

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Speaker 3: I would say it's a two, okay, it's a two.

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Speaker 3: One of those two is going One of those two? Okay,

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Speaker 3: Next year, Hey, how about it forty four there's another

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Speaker 3: One of those to it the very least is gonna.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably there, But more I think about it

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Speaker 2: So here's the second one. Okay, the Texans will trade

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say one to ten one, No, way in

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Speaker 2: Okay, So just so kind of aware to get to

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Speaker 2: the Texas have picked forty two. That's four hundred and

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Speaker 3: That to me would be a seven or eight. But

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Speaker 3: in the draft trade prospects, these value charts, they're a guideline.

439
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Speaker 3: They're not the ultimate track.

440
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Speaker 1: Correct.

441
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Speaker 3: What was the what was the work up on the

442
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 3: Will Anderson deal? I mean, I know that was a

443
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 3: completely different animal. You're moving up to number three overall

444
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 3: in the Yeah, I mean because you had Did they

445
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 3: overpay in terms of points?

446
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 2: I believe so I think they did. Yeah, based on points.

447
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 2: But you you know, how do you at that point

448
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: and when you did the trade at that point? The

449
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: calculus for the Texans first round pick, So just to

450
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: show you there's a discount. I think it's like a

451
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: ten or fifteen percent discounting points when you go to

452
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 2: a future year, Well, if you think, if you think

453
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Speaker 2: that the Texans, as a lot of people did, we're

454
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 2: going to be one of the three worst teams in

455
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: the league. So to split the middle, say they say

456
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Speaker 2: they ended up with the number two overall pick. Okay,

457
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Speaker 2: that's twenty six hundred points. So even if you discount

458
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Speaker 2: that at ten percent, you're talking about two hundred and

459
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 2: thirty points or sorry, twenty three hundred points. Yeah, well

460
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: the Texans ended up at twenty seven. The difference in

461
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: points that's six' eighty. So by the math of what

462
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: was happening at that time, Yeah, you probably lost the

463
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: points because you people weren't considering that first round pick.

464
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 3: Do you have the start in front? I do what's

465
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Speaker 3: a fifth round pick, A fifth round pick, mid fifth

466
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 3: round pick.

467
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's just say, mid fifth round pick is worth nothing.

468
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: It's like, well it's nothing, it's thirty one points. So

469
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: thirty oh, thirty one point thirty point? What's a fourth worth?

470
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: Mid fourth would be double that, like sixty four sixty,

471
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: sixty two sixty, that's it.

472
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: So you really don't get value until you get up

473
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: to these higher rounds. You got it, Yep, that's how

474
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: it's perceived. Yeah, that's how it's perceived. So it makes

475
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 3: sense because you're not gonna it's it's like those calls

476
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 3: you get when you're doing talk radio with the phone

477
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: lines open, Hey, let's trade our entire team for this guy.

478
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way because that one player that

479
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: you want from the other team is worth way more

480
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 3: than a bunch of individuals who are not superstars or

481
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: at least star level players. So that's how it works.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and look at the value of

483
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Speaker 2: that that Arizona trade points wise, just to see how

484
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Speaker 2: it came out, because I guarantee you when people were

485
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: doing the math on that, they were anticipating, Oh hey,

486
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 2: we're anticipating the text is not being so good, so

487
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a really valuable pick. And then they

488
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: ended up being number twenty seven. And now you look

489
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: and go, wait a second. First of all, you kind

490
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: of know what kind of you know, the player that

491
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: Will Anderson's turning out to be. Yeah, but you also

492
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Speaker 2: know that they got the twenty seventh pick. So I'm

493
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Speaker 2: gonna go back and do the I love how all.

494
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: This stuff has worked out because you look at the

495
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: Cleveland situation where, yeah, we all know what happened. Once

496
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: you beat them in the playoffs, you assured yourself a

497
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Speaker 3: better selection and you did the right thing, give it

498
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Speaker 3: up your pick instead of there absolutely in that deal.

499
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Speaker 2: Last one on the scale picks forty two to fifty nine,

500
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Speaker 2: say that the end up staying there. Those two picks

501
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: will be a corner and a wide receiver scale of

502
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Speaker 2: one to ten, one being no way, ten being absolute

503
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Speaker 2: locke one.

504
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, everyone is.

505
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: So high on receiver, and as I say this, they'll

506
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Speaker 3: probably take a receiver. I don't see it.

507
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Speaker 1: I do not see it change my mock draft.

508
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: You might, you might. You're talking rounds two and three.

509
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: Now forty two and fifty nine. You're two second rounders.

510
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh, no way, no way, nope, not going there. I

511
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: don't believe it. I don't believe it too high. I

512
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 3: would say in the third round, you're gonna go.

513
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Speaker 1: A wide receiver.

514
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Texans have the eighty six pick overall, that is,

515
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: you know decently that it's about two thirds of the

516
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: way down in the third round. So you say no

517
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: to receiver at fifty nine. I haven't locked anything in.

518
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Talk me out of it, Talk me out of it.

519
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: I have a corner at forty two. Do you agree

520
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: with that?

521
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Speaker 1: Look?

522
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Speaker 3: Hang on, yeah, I do agree with it. Okay, I

523
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: think that looks good. Yeah, I think with cornerback right now. Look,

524
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: they have a lot of things that could work out.

525
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: I think between the two Marquee guys, I bill them

526
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: as Marque players because they were drafted high. I know

527
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: they worked out for them. But when you look at

528
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: those players, the hope is I'm thinking one of those

529
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: two works out for us. Right, one of those two

530
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: has to come through and play the way the team

531
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: that drafted him envisioned. So there's that, yes, but you're

532
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: still going to insure against that. You're still gonna draft

533
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: Ben Tate. You know, yeah, Ben Tate, knowing that Arian

534
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: Foster was probably going to be pretty good, not as

535
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: excellent as he turned out to be, right, but probably

536
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: pretty good. But you still needed to get that stalwart

537
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: in there. How about running back? They haven't addressed that

538
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: beyond Joe Mixon and Damien who. I want to see

539
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: Damien return to his twenty twenty two form, but I

540
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: think running back along the way is a position they'll

541
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 3: definitely look at.

542
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Speaker 1: So you know what I have happening in my mock draft.

543
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: I have RB one.

544
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: Well he's actually not RB one for me, but I

545
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: just the more I thought about it, the team that

546
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: I have taking a running back and I and I'm

547
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: not totally set on this. I've looked at it a

548
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: few times and I'm not totally sure, but when you

549
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: look at the depth chart, you realize, Man, there's one

550
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: guy and that's it.

551
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: I have the Indianapolis Colts taking running back in the

552
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Speaker 1: second round.

553
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: What wait?

554
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why they had?

555
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: John listened to the running back depth chart for the

556
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts.

557
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Yeah?

558
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Than Taylor heard him? Yes, yeah, he's pretty good. You

559
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: heard it, Evan Hall? Not much you heard of?

560
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: Well?

561
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: You know of Tyler Goodson because he dropped the ball.

562
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: You know what happened, Tray Sermon, Xavi, you'er Scott. For

563
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: a team that you would think wants to run the ball,

564
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: they're gonna run Taylor in't he.

565
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: Was it a Goodson and Sermon who ran the daylights

566
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: out of it against who was it? Pittsburgh in one game?

567
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: For they were they were on the march man, they

568
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: were running the ball well with that old line.

569
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: I would look at it.

570
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: Guys that they drafted a back if any team could afford. Now,

571
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: look you have mix in here, and you have the

572
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: prospect of Damian Pierce returning to twenty twenty two form.

573
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: I was having this conversation with Vander Kidd. He said, dude,

574
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: what makes you think Damian Pierce? You know he loves Damien,

575
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: but he's wanting to know. I said, look, he's got

576
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: so much talent. He's got enough talent where he touched

577
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: the ball and a kickoff goes seventy five yards for

578
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: a touchdown. Talent ran away from everybody. Yeah, I mean,

579
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: come on, total, he's got the talent. Got to figure

580
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: it out.

581
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: Okay, make me redo this cool thing one.

582
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: I still want one. I want a running back somewhere

583
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: along the way, and that might be too early as well,

584
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: and maybe.

585
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: You're making me think about it. I'll put it this way.

586
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: The guy that I have penciled in at fifty nine

587
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: for the Texans looks more like a running back than

588
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: he does a wide receiver. And I think he could

589
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: play that kind of wide back position that they kind

590
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: of use Deebo Samuel in.

591
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: So he's got some running back abilities.

592
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: He's got tremendous running back abilities, but he's more a

593
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: receiver type. I don't know if I should tell you

594
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: this because now I'm now I'm thinking about changing it.

595
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking about putting Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky

596
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: there five eleven, two point fifteen, really good runner after

597
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: the Cats, Like you could play him at running back

598
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: if you wanted to.

599
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: So he gives you kind of both.

600
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: That's why it's going to be a big element of

601
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: this offense. I think that's going to be an added dimension.

602
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: So a good move your number? Do you move your

603
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: number from one up a little bit if I leave

604
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: Malkai Corley there just because the way you can run

605
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: the ball. Wait, but I said one based on receiver

606
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: and he's a receiver.

607
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: He's a receiver, but he's kind of gonna play like

608
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel eh two one and a half.

609
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: Two.

610
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So if I put a running back there, So

611
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: if I go cornerback, running back, how would you feel?

612
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: Feel fine? I think receiver. Third round?

613
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so one to ten cornerback and running back, you

614
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: would say seven?

615
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: No, I would say, because the field is more likely

616
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: to happen. They're gonna get you know, somebody you're not expecting.

617
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a great punter that Now they're not

618
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: gonna do that.

619
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just.

620
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: About the spot where the running backs start coming off

621
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: the board though, you know, yeah, you can get the

622
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: number one running back there.

623
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 7: I think because the Colts are picking. I can't remember

624
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 7: where I have the Colts picking, but.

625
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: All I know is Friday night is gonna be so frustrating.

626
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: When the night begins and you're see a name after

627
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: name the board, You're wondering, are they gonna move up?

628
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: Are they gonna move up? Because we're gonna know all

629
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: the we're gonna be talking about those names available that

630
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: didn't get picked in the first round. All day long,

631
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: and we're gonna be on pins and needles. But look,

632
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: let Nick cook and figure it out.

633
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: That's why I went with Malachi Corley. But I don't know.

634
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: You might be changing my mind, might be changing my mind.

635
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: I just don't like the defense tackle value there. I

636
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: think the edge value there is not there. I feel

637
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: like the value is wide receiver running back. I think

638
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: those two for sure. All right, we get back. We're

639
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Christian Harris. Well, Drew Doherty's gonna talk

640
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: to Christian Harris and that'll happen next on Texans All Access.

641
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Speaker 1: What's happening everybody?

642
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Friday edition of Texans All Access.

643
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, Football on a Sideline Reporter.

644
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate Jimmy Ward for being by And by the way,

645
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Speaker 2: if you want to check out my mock draft, it'll

646
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Speaker 2: be probably posted on Monday.

647
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Speaker 1: I gotta refine some things. I don't know if I'm

648
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Speaker 1: gonna change my mind on.

649
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Who I selected, because I feel pretty good about the

650
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver that I picked for the Texans.

651
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Speaker 5: But who knows.

652
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Speaker 2: So I got the weekend, but go check it out

653
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Speaker 2: Football takeover dot Com. If you've been checking my Twitter

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Speaker 2: position breakdowns I wrote up Ony Gautry, I wrote up

658
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Speaker 2: on Tooni Hunter, So make sure you're checking all that

659
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Speaker 2: out as well. Now, one of the guys that we

660
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: have got it over the last man, it's weird. He's

661
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 2: going into this third year. It feels like he's been

662
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Speaker 2: here forever. And then it's only his third year, so

663
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Speaker 2: it feels like he hasn't been here forever. And that's

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Speaker 2: Christian Harris. He sat down with Drew. They waxed poetic

665
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Speaker 2: about the season and a lot of other things. Let's

666
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Speaker 2: hear from Christian Harris with our man, Drew Dodwerty.

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Speaker 6: You've seen some of the moves that have been made

668
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Speaker 6: by this team. How excited are you right now?

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Speaker 5: Man? I'm stoked.

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Speaker 8: I've been at the facility since February nineteenth for a

671
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Speaker 8: lot of the guys working out, and I mean we're excited,

672
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Speaker 8: you know, just really just extra motivation for all of

673
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Speaker 8: us coming into this season. You know, focus with one

674
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Speaker 8: thing on our mind, which is that Super Bowl.

675
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Speaker 6: I know you wanted to get right, get healthy, et cetera,

676
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 6: et cetera. But talking to a lot of these guys

677
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Speaker 6: that you play with, you guys were ready to rock

678
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 6: the day after the Ravens game, and you wanted to

679
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Speaker 6: play again.

680
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Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta love this sport.

681
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Speaker 8: And I mean, obviously it's tough to take a loss,

682
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 8: you take a couple of weeks off, but you got

683
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Speaker 8: to get right back to it. You don't start winning

684
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Speaker 8: like that in January or at the end of January.

685
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Speaker 8: So those things kind of starting the offseason right now.

686
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Speaker 8: You know, February March, what.

687
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Speaker 6: Were you doing besides working out the facility? Did you

688
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Speaker 6: get away and get to any time yourself?

689
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Speaker 8: Me and my girlfriend took a little trip for like

690
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Speaker 8: four days, got to wait for a little bit, and

691
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Speaker 8: really after that we just came back here. It's kind

692
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 8: of been chilling out in Houston the whole time, staying

693
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Speaker 8: close to the facility.

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Speaker 6: Linebacker Christian Harris. A couple of weeks ago, Demico Rans

695
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Speaker 6: was at the Combine. He was asked about you, and

696
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Speaker 6: he said last year was a bit like a rookie

697
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Speaker 6: year for you, and you started coming on. How excited

698
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Speaker 6: are you in this defense? Let's talk about some of

699
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Speaker 6: these other editions later, but just this defense in year two.

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Speaker 8: No, yeah, man, I'm really excited to see really as

701
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Speaker 8: a defense for everybody as a whole, to see how

702
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Speaker 8: far we go, as far far we can come together

703
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Speaker 8: as a unit. You know, we got some new pieces,

704
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Speaker 8: so we obviously all got to jail together, get that

705
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Speaker 8: chemistry rolling, and you know, I think we'll be able

706
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Speaker 8: to do some really great things. So I'm obviously, for

707
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Speaker 8: short looking forward to it.

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Speaker 6: Danil Hunter, Denico Autry to in tan with Will Anderson?

709
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Speaker 6: What's that do for a guy like you?

710
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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 8: It makes it a lot easier for me or my

712
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Speaker 8: job cleaning it up for me. You know those guys,

713
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Speaker 8: they really just let them go and disrupt, and they've

714
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Speaker 8: had a lot of success.

715
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Speaker 5: In this league.

716
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Speaker 8: Will already being the young guy ready to sown, you know,

717
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 8: he can do a lot of great things, so, you know,

718
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 8: just really making my job easier.

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Speaker 6: When you heard the news that we were getting Denil Hunter,

720
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Speaker 6: what was your first reaction?

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Speaker 8: I was just like, man, I'm trying to go to

722
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Speaker 8: the super Bowl. I mean, really, what everybody is seeing

723
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 8: around the whole league right now. It's a lot of

724
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Speaker 8: big moves being made. So I don't know if it's

725
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 8: you know, just because you know we're in it now,

726
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Speaker 8: I'm paying more attention that it seems more crazy or as.

727
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Speaker 6: He's asha hear that guy can play too well. He

728
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Speaker 6: plays in that he's gonna be in the linebacker room

729
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Speaker 6: with you too.

730
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 5: High energy, high energy. He has a motor with him.

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Speaker 8: I've seen a couple of the high lights, and obviously

732
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Speaker 8: I was watching throughout the season to learn well about

733
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Speaker 8: how coach Mko wants to his linebackers to play. I

734
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Speaker 8: watched a lot of the San Francisco film as well,

735
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Speaker 8: so I was a guy I've had my own for

736
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Speaker 8: a little while.

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Speaker 6: Linebacker Christian Harris. How about Derek Stingley, You obviously have

738
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Speaker 6: a connection with him, you weren't just you know, he

739
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Speaker 6: goes back, you know, back expect. What's that like going

740
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Speaker 6: into year three with him?

741
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Speaker 5: Man, it's crazy, we said it.

742
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Speaker 8: Actually, I think this first or second week we started

743
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 8: working out just like man this year three.

744
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

745
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Speaker 8: We just keep going one day at a time, one

746
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Speaker 8: year at a time. You know, you never know where

747
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 8: God could take it.

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Speaker 9: The optimism is high. What do you want fans to

749
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 9: know were working.

750
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 8: And were ready, promise you were hungry as ever, and

751
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 8: just know that last year that's the built, like the

752
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: bottom of the floor, the foundation that were building. We've

753
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Speaker 8: got a lot of greater things, a lot of more

754
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Speaker 8: great things coming in the future.

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Speaker 6: Linebacker Christian Harri's good to be with you, my friend,

756
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Speaker 6: best of luck in the off season number.

757
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Speaker 3: Forty, Thank you.

758
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: A lot of commotion and chaos and noise in the background,

759
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: but still it was good to get Christian on with Drew.

760
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Always great stuff with Christian Harris. So how about that

761
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: little Jimmy Ward and a little Christian Harris. We've dominated

762
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Speaker 2: this week with players. Man, it's been awesome. We had Will,

763
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: we had Tank, we had Jimmy Ward, we had Christian Harris, We've.

764
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Speaker 5: Had all kinds of people.

765
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: Jaylor Petrie I think joined Drew at some point. So

766
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Speaker 2: we've had a lot on the show and we appreciate

767
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: those guys for being by. All right, a little bit

768
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: of news on the Texans. This happened last night.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to get into it with Mark. Forgot about that.

770
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Speaker 1: The Texas added defensive back that is CJ.

771
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Speaker 2: Henderson, drafted into twenty twenty draft by the Jacksonville Jaguars,

772
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Speaker 2: ended up moving to Carolina. There's a trade that Carolina

773
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Speaker 2: made to acquire CJ. Henderson. So doesn't mean he's a starter.

774
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Speaker 1: Because of the former first rounder. Well, I think he

775
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: was ninth overall in the same draft. Jeff Acuda was

776
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Speaker 1: number three overall.

777
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Speaker 2: So look, the Texans over the last couple of years,

778
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Speaker 2: you've kind of seen the I don't want to say

779
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: if it's a philosophy, but they've kind of bet low

780
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: and it pays off.

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Speaker 1: Man, Let's roll.

782
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Speaker 2: I mean, how many players did they take over the

783
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: last few years And you're like, boy, they sent that

784
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: guy to a one year contract and well he turned

785
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: to a really good player. Now, I don't know if

786
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: you'd say that was a risk to go sign Steven Nelson,

787
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: but you didn't pay Steven Nelson a whole lot really

788
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: on a two year deal, and Steven Nelson was one

789
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: of your better defensive players the last couple of years.

790
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Speaker 2: So hopefully one of these guys, Jeff Acuda or CJ.

791
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Henderson pans out played at big time universities.

792
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 5: Jeff A.

793
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Speaker 2: Cudah from Texas and at Plain, Ohio State CJ. Henderson

794
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: playing at the University of Florida. I've met some friends

795
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: around the Florida program over the years, and they spoke very,

796
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: very highly of CJ.

797
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Speaker 5: Henderson.

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Speaker 2: So look, sometimes it's the right fits, the right situation.

799
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: It's the right defense, it's the right city. It's the

800
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: right head coach, it's the right defensive backs coach, it's

801
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: the right defensive coordinator, it's the right way of saying things,

802
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: and all those things click and you're like, man, wow,

803
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: look at that. Thinking about kendnerck Green last year, Man,

804
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: I can't tell you the number of things I heard

805
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: about Kendrick Green. Oh Man, he was one of the

806
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: worst players ever seen in Pittsburgh. There's a there is

807
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: a national reporter who said some things to people in

808
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: Houston about him that he was the word just really

809
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean crushed him. And kender Green turned out to

810
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: be a really good player for the Texans for the

811
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Speaker 2: first three games of the year. I just hated the

812
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Speaker 2: fact that he was. He got hurt in Game four,

813
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: but hopefully Kendrick will be back. But the point being,

814
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: because the guy's been great somewhere, or he's been horrible

815
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: somewhere doesn't mean that he'll continue to be that way.

816
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: And you know, take Daniel Hunter.

817
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd like to believe that he's gonna continue

818
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: his sixteen and a half sacks twenty three TfL ways, right,

819
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: you'd like to think that. But new situation, he's back home.

820
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more, maybe it's less, maybe it's right at it,

821
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: who knows, but hopefully.

822
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Speaker 1: The Texans get what they pay for. With Jeff Akuda

823
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Speaker 1: and CJ.

824
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Henderson, you kind of you know, you take that lottery

825
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: scratch off ticket and you think, okay, let's see what happens.

826
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Speaker 2: It costs a whole lot, let's see if it. If

827
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: it hits, we don't expect it to, but maybe we

828
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: can get something out of it. And hopefully that's what

829
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: happens with both Jeff Akuda CJ.

830
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Speaker 5: Henderson.

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Speaker 1: As Car Holman was released, so they've added a couple

832
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Speaker 1: of former first rounders and we'll see.

833
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: If one of those can click. Could be kind of nice. Now,

834
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: what did the Texans do in the draft? Well, Drew

835
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: and I did an exercise in the lab. Wants you

836
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Speaker 2: to take a listen. That's next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: We all find a segment this Friday issue of Texans

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Speaker 2: All Access. I'm your host John Harris Football had on

839
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Speaker 2: a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. I'm also one

840
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Speaker 2: half of the In the Lab podcast with Drew Doherty

841
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: and myself.

842
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: Now this weekend on in the Lab or this Weekend

843
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Speaker 1: in the Lab. We kind of, I don't know if

844
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: we meant for it to come out this way, but

845
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: we just had kind of two parts to it.

846
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: We kind of talked a lot about what maybe the

847
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: Texans might do defensive tackle, kind of how first week

848
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: or so free agency had gone. The second part was, well,

849
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: it's our exercise, as we call it. We went to

850
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: the mock draft simulator and we put together a mock

851
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Speaker 2: draft based on some of the trades that were presented.

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Speaker 1: How many did we take?

853
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Speaker 5: Who did we draft?

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Speaker 2: We did that right here, So why not on a Friday,

855
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: let's go through that mock draft simulator.

856
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: See who Drew and I came.

857
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: It's time to do the exercise. What you and I

858
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 6: haven't done the exercise in weeks and the exercise if

859
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 6: you haven't been with us before, is we go to

860
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Speaker 6: Pro Footballnetwork dot Com their mock draft simulator. Because the

861
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 6: Texans have. They've moved around, they've shed some picks. They

862
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 6: don't have a first rounder anymore, but they also got

863
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 6: rid of a seventh. They also added a one eighty eight,

864
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: So it's jiggled up. I've got the thing going. You

865
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 6: always want to do seven rounds, you always want to

866
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 6: go fast, and you always want to choose the Houston Texans.

867
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Speaker 6: So the Texans are on the board now at forty two.

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Speaker 6: But John, before I tell you who's available, just keep

869
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 6: this in mind. Cleveland wants forty two and one eighty

870
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: eight in exchange for fifty four. Oh, that's okay, and

871
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 6: next year's second rounder. That's enticing. So you've moved back

872
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 6: twelve and you still have another second rounder this year,

873
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 6: but you're forty two and one eighty eight. Go you

874
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: get fifty four next year second and then also on

875
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 6: the table, I'm not wild about this one forty two

876
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 6: and a seventh. You're two four seven for seventy six.

877
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 6: It's a big move back, and Denver's second and Denver's

878
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 6: third next year.

879
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Let's get jiggy with Let's do the first one.

880
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 6: Okay, so the first trade, But but before we do,

881
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 6: I just want to let you know who's on the board, Okay,

882
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 6: wide receiver from Texas, Adam I and Mitchell Pennix is available, yep,

883
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 6: to Andandre Sweat at forty one.

884
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 9: He's third on the board. He's available.

885
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

886
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 6: You also have an edg Rusher at Dieze, Isaac Troy Franklin,

887
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 6: the receiver from Oregon Ruc ro row Man.

888
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: This is jimimme pause.

889
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 9: Edrin Cooper is available as well, and he seems like

890
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 9: a killer.

891
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 7: Okay, people know how much I like Drin Cooper. Yeah,

892
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 7: Blnebacker one and Harris one hundred from forty two overall. Ironically,

893
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 7: in the Harris one hundred, my cop for him is

894
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 7: Christian Harris.

895
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: Is that too redundant? If you were to add a

896
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 6: guy like that, that's exactly right. Okay, you don't want him, Okay,

897
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: Malachi Corley, Leonard Taylor defensive tackle.

898
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 7: Okay, swet thing. You've said about four or five names

899
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 7: that I that I kind of like. So let's make

900
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 7: the deal. Let's get that second next year as well.

901
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: So now we got three seconds next year, a first

902
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 7: and three seconds next year.

903
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: I like that, So let's do it.

904
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 6: Okay, We've made the deal, and there's another deal Bruin

905
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: with the Browns. They want fifty four in exchange for

906
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 6: eighty five one to fifty six next year's third and fourth.

907
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 6: I say no, thank, no, no, no, Let's stay at

908
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 6: fifty four. Okay, Pennix is still available, de and Andre

909
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: Sweat still available. Bang it sweat, let's over, Ruka ro

910
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: row Yeah, let's go sweat. Okay, so sweat, let's get

911
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: some fifty four.

912
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

913
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 6: Pal, he's a Texan. Now we're picking again. You've got

914
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 6: fifty nine. Cleveland's back. They want fifty nine and two

915
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: three eight, eighty five, one five, six, three and four.

916
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 6: I say no, no, yeah, and then the Vikings want

917
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: the same and they want to give you one o

918
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 6: eight one two nine one five seven.

919
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 9: Okay, here's three and four. I don't.

920
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Well, you say no to that.

921
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 7: Before you say no real fast, Let's let's hear who's

922
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 7: on the board and see if there are few names

923
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: that dude.

924
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Okay, then let's bet you. Now we're coaching ems on.

925
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: That's cancel it.

926
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, no, let's listen. Let's let's hear it out. Okay,

927
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 6: Penis is still there a row row Taylor Jatavian Sanders

928
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: tight end for Texas, but he's kind of a move

929
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 6: tight end. And yeah, Texans have that.

930
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: We have that.

931
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 6: Raylan Trice an edge from Washington. Max Melton corner is available. Ooh,

932
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: linebacker Cedric Gray is available.

933
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: I like both those guys. I like Melton a lot.

934
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 6: Raydon Fiskey is available from Florida State. Bro Braid safety

935
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 6: out of Maryland.

936
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 9: Do you like him?

937
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: It's okay, he's a box safety, okay, and this is.

938
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 6: One that makes me pause down he's seventieh but I

939
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: bet he flies off. Roman Wilson wide receiver, Michigan Wilson.

940
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 6: We need wide receiver. Yeah, okay, so we're not taking

941
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 6: the deal. He's not anywhere near like the top of

942
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 6: this board, but I like him, and yeah, you love him.

943
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Wilson studless.

944
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 6: So we've added Roman Wilson. Now we're into the third

945
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: round eighty six. All right, this is an intriguing offer

946
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 6: eighty six and two four seven, which you always want

947
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 6: to kind of dump your seventh, don't you seemingly to

948
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 6: move back ten spots to ninety six with Jacksonville and

949
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 6: you get their fourth next year. But let me let

950
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 6: you know who's available. Marshawn Neeland, an edge is available.

951
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 6: Jalen McMillan, receiver from Washington's available. You just took Roman Wilson.

952
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 6: Do you like Braylan Allen, the running back from Wisconsin.

953
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 6: Do you like Trevin Wallace, the linebacker from Kentucky? Those

954
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 6: are some possibilities.

955
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Who else you got below that?

956
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 9: Down? Down lower at ninety at heart?

957
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Wait, did you say Marshawn Neilan Nelan's there?

958
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 9: Marshaw Niland is top of your board.

959
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

960
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: I like that guy a lot.

961
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 10: He would be a steal at eighty six my my opinion. Yeah,

962
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 10: let's do it. Okay, add to add to strength, to

963
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 10: the strength. Okay, So we got that. Now we're dipping

964
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 10: into the fourth round. You got a couple there. You

965
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 10: got one two three pick one two three. Saints are

966
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 10: offering one fifty one sixty eight one ninety I I'm

967
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 10: not interested. You've got Cade Stover. I want to CJ.

968
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 10: Stroud's old targets. Ohio State is a tight end, but

969
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 10: a move tight end. Yeah, another defensive tackle Mason with

970
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 10: two A Smith out of LSU, Dadrian Taylor Demerson safety

971
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 10: from Texas Tech. Now here's an intriguing name. We've taken

972
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 10: this name before and we like it. One's seventeen running

973
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 10: back from New Hampshire, Dylan Lobby. And when you have

974
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 10: a running back from New Hampshire available on your board,

975
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 10: you almost always take it. Isn't that the rule? That

976
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 10: is the rule, hard and fast. But also another linebacker

977
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 10: from Texas. I don't know if you like him, Jalen Ford. Uh,

978
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 10: those are some possibilities. Ray Davis running back from Kentucky.

979
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 10: I have Ray Davis, Ahanna Lobby. I would go Ray Davis,

980
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 10: Go Ray Davis. Ray Davis is picked at one twenty three.

981
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 10: Now one twenty seven and two thirty eight. I like

982
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 10: this move here from the Vikings for one two nine,

983
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 10: So you move back two spots and you flip two

984
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 10: thirty eight into one seventy seven.

985
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 9: I want to do that.

986
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 6: So you've only you're picking it one twenty seven and

987
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: Jared Wiley, the tight end is still way down on

988
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 6: the board available for you.

989
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 9: I want to do it.

990
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's do Jared Wiley.

991
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 9: All right, So we're taking we're taking the deal and

992
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 9: then taking Wiley.

993
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Yep, let's do it.

994
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: Okay, Oh wait, now you got one twenty nine and

995
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 6: two forty seven in exchange for one thirty six and

996
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 6: two A three. But I think you miss out on

997
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 6: Wiley if you do that. Mm So you want to

998
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 6: move back seven but then move up forty three.

999
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: No, no, let's not move Let's just take Wiley, all right,

1000
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: we just go Wiley.

1001
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 6: Okay, So we've added a big tight end, Jared Wiley's

1002
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: six foot seven, man's legit size, and it seems like

1003
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 6: all his highlights him just settling down in space all

1004
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 6: by his lonesome and catching the ball. Okay, first pick

1005
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: of the sixth round is one seventy seven. We've acquired

1006
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 6: that in a trade. Top of the board right now,

1007
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: says Javon Cohen, a guard out of Miami. No, Evan

1008
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 6: Williams is safety from Oregon.

1009
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 9: Yes, I love him. You want to do that? Yes,

1010
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 9: I like he's a Texan.

1011
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: Now, as we cycle through all of our picks, we've

1012
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 6: got one remaining seventh rounder at two forty seven overall.

1013
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: Top of the board tight end AJ Barner, tight end, McCallan,

1014
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 6: Castle's tight end, Tip Ryman, defensive tackle John Rie Chroma.

1015
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: James Madison.

1016
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 6: Yep, I mean there's a bunch of name what do

1017
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 6: you have a corner? Well at corner and that's one

1018
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 6: of the fun things. You go to defense and you

1019
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 6: can click on cornerback. You've got Micah Abraham from Marshall,

1020
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 6: Marcellus Dial from South Carolina, Alblade Junior out of Duke.

1021
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 6: Oh okay, here's a name, Quantes Stiggers.

1022
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 9: Yes, cornerback of the CFL from Toronto.

1023
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: Do it.

1024
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 9: He's probably not gonna last that long.

1025
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he is.

1026
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 9: So we'll adam.

1027
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: Okay, so our tremendous story. By the way, our draft

1028
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 6: is complete. To rewind, we trade it back. We've got

1029
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 6: Big bad To and Andre Sweat. He's a fullback who

1030
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 6: moonlighted as a defensive tackle or vice versa. We've got

1031
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 6: Roman Wilson, mister separator out of Michigan. Marshawn Neeland. He

1032
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 6: was a guy who fell to us an edge, really

1033
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 6: nice player out of Western Michigan. Ray Davis is a

1034
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 6: running back that you like a lot from Kentucky. Jared

1035
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: Wiley an enormous tight end from TCU, the safety in

1036
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 6: Evid Williams, and a quarter in Quantest Stigger plus next

1037
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: year's Brown's second. I think the Browns regress myself. So

1038
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 6: I think that's going to be a decent pick. Now

1039
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 6: you have three second rounders, but go a little bit

1040
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: more into quantest stiggers please.

1041
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 7: He ended up going to the CFL, and for whatever reason,

1042
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 7: there's some NFL rules such that I guess he never

1043
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: entered a draft at any point, so he's still draftligible.

1044
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 7: So he decided, okay, I'm a you know, put my

1045
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 7: name into the into the draft mix. After I want

1046
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 7: to say, he was Rookie of the Year for the

1047
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 7: Toronto Argonauts and the CFL.

1048
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: So he ends up going to the Shrine Bowl.

1049
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 7: East West Shrine Bowl had a really really good East

1050
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 7: West Shrine Bowl, and before you know it, his name

1051
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 7: is kind of out there is Hey, this guy's got

1052
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: professional football experience. I mean, I know it's it's the CFL.

1053
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 7: I know, it's a little bit different game.

1054
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 9: That matters.

1055
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: It really matters exactly when you're a pro.

1056
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 9: It a different sports basically, but it still matters.

1057
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: It absolutely matters, and that's I mean, that's that's tremendous stuff.

1058
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 7: So from that standpoint, getting him in the seventh round,

1059
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 7: I think he's there're gonna be enough teams that are

1060
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 7: have to dig in his background.

1061
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: You kind of wonder, like, why did he end up

1062
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: kind of going this route? You know, is there something?

1063
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: Is there something else there?

1064
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 7: But man, he is a heck of a player, a

1065
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 7: really really good player and one of the best names

1066
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 7: you're gonna find.

1067
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Quantes Stiggers.

1068
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: Yes, very interesting prospect and on in the Lab we

1069
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: kind of geek out.

1070
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 5: So there you go.

1071
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being with Mark and I and Drew today.

1072
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: A big thanks to Christian Harris, A big thanks to

1073
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy Ward who joined us in the first segment.

1074
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 5: If you missed it, if.

1075
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: You just turn on go oh man, I miss Jimmy Ward.

1076
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: Just go get our podcast page. Check out Vamer's view

1077
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: in the Lab.

1078
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: We got all of that right there, and obviously all

1079
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: of our all access shows we got those for you

1080
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: as well. Appreciate you guys being here. Have a great weekend.

1081
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful night. Enjoy it. We'll see you on Monday,

1082
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: everybody from the owners meetings.

1083
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Mark will be there interviewing all the luminaries that you

1084
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: want to hear from. That will be next week. Appreciate

1085
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: you guys being here as always, Go Texans.