WEBVTT - How to Make a Scottish Tartan (Without Going to Scotland!)

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<v Speaker 1>Glascope.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to part time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 2>and iHeartRadio. Guess what, Well, what's that mango? So if

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<v Speaker 2>it weren't for a nineteenth century Scottish scientist, my career

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<v Speaker 2>right now would be completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this particular invention is something you hear mentioned at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of all the podcasts I work on these days. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kaleidoscope, right, that's right, it's the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast network I co founded. And it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>the kalidoscope was invented by a guy named David Brewster.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born in the southern Uplands of Scotland and

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<v Speaker 2>attended the University of Edinburgh. He actually became a minister

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<v Speaker 2>at first, but his lifelong passion for science, particularly the

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<v Speaker 2>science of light, inspired him to study optics, and in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen fourteen, while doing an experiment that involved bouncing light

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<v Speaker 2>between plates of glass, he noticed that if the glass

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<v Speaker 2>was placed at specific angles, it actually created the striking

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<v Speaker 2>symmetrical patterns, and he decided to see if he could

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<v Speaker 2>recreate this effect in different way, so he tried again,

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<v Speaker 2>this time beaming all this polarized light across gold and

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<v Speaker 2>silver plates, and the result was this stunning, colorful array.

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<v Speaker 2>So he set out to create, in his words, a

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<v Speaker 2>new optical instrument for creating and exhibiting beautiful forms.

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<v Speaker 3>So, if I'm understanding this right, this is really my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite kind of invention because it sounds like he's not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to invent something practical, like he just thought these

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<v Speaker 3>light patterns were pretty, Is that right exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And after a few months of tinkering, he actually built

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<v Speaker 2>a proto kaleidoscope, and the device had angled mirrors with

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<v Speaker 2>colored glass fastened around them to cast all these reflections.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first people to view it were members of

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<v Speaker 2>the Royal Society of Edinburgh, and they loved it. But

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<v Speaker 2>Brewster wasn't done. His final stroke of genius was making

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<v Speaker 2>the colored glass pieces rotate in order to create all

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<v Speaker 2>these different shapes and patterns, you know, like the kalidoscopes

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<v Speaker 2>we know today. But while the instrument itself might have

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<v Speaker 2>been a novelty, the principles behind it were actually really advanced.

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<v Speaker 2>So in eighteen fifty eight, Brewster wrote a book about

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<v Speaker 2>the science of kalidoscopes, summarizing what he'd learned in the

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<v Speaker 2>process of making his invention, everything from like the geometry

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<v Speaker 2>of kaleidoscopic forms to the physics of light, and in

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<v Speaker 2>chapter sixteen he made a reference to a compound known

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<v Speaker 2>as ido quinine sulfate, the crystals of which he said

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<v Speaker 2>were remarkably good at polarizing light. Almost seventy years later,

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<v Speaker 2>a Harvard student named Edwin h. Land would read this

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<v Speaker 2>and get the idea for a new kind of polarizing

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<v Speaker 2>filter that could be used for photography, and he called

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<v Speaker 2>it polaroid.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing, and they think it all began with the

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<v Speaker 3>minister who just kind of liked pretty colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I know, I mean the idea of this toy

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<v Speaker 2>turning into a camera, it was just like stunning. But

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<v Speaker 2>more specifically, it all began in Scotland. And today we're

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<v Speaker 2>discovering nine surprising facts about the northernmost country in the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>from a once in a lifetime fossil fine to the

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<v Speaker 2>shocking truth behind bagpipes. So why don't we dive in?

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<v Speaker 1>Heay their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my

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<v Speaker 3>good friend mengeshat Ticatter and over there in the booth

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<v Speaker 3>all tuckered out. I'm having walked five hundred miles and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not it, and then five hundred more. That's our

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<v Speaker 3>palent producer, Dylan Thing and his dedication. He never ceases

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<v Speaker 3>to amaze.

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<v Speaker 2>It is incredible. You walked to Daton, Ohio and back

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<v Speaker 2>again just so we could make a ten second reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the proclaivers bitch. I love, Thank you Dylan for

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<v Speaker 2>getting us into this Scottish spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, speaking of impressive physical feats, mango my

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<v Speaker 3>first fact is also a new item on my bucket list.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to bag some Monros.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that legal?

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is it legal, it's actually encourage mango. So

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<v Speaker 3>in Monroe is any mountain in Scotland that's over three

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<v Speaker 3>thousand feet tall? And I was curious how many of

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<v Speaker 3>these there were. There are two hundred and eighty two

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<v Speaker 3>Monros in total, and if you make it to the

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<v Speaker 3>top of one, you've bagged it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you may be thinking that a Monroe is a

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<v Speaker 3>scientific term or a word derived from Gaelic, but actually

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<v Speaker 3>their name for Sir Hugh Monroe, who surveyed and catalog them.

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<v Speaker 3>This was way back in eighteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, first of all, I love this terminology. Bagging a

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<v Speaker 2>Monroe is ridiculous, a great term. It is ridiculous. But

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<v Speaker 2>but did this guy just wake up with day decide

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<v Speaker 2>to make like like a huge list of mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was actually an assignment. He was asked to

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<v Speaker 3>do it by the editor of the Scottish Mountaineering Club Journal,

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<v Speaker 3>and mountain climbing and hillwalking were and of course still

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<v Speaker 3>are popular past times in Scotland, and that's, of course

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<v Speaker 3>thanks to the country's rugged terrain. So Monroe had co

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<v Speaker 3>founded the club a few years earlier, so he was

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<v Speaker 3>clearly qualified for this. But he had something else going

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<v Speaker 3>for him. According to a biography written by the Monroe Society,

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<v Speaker 3>he was known as a compulsive note taker and quote

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<v Speaker 3>he flung himself with enthusiasm into everything he undertook. So

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like a super interesting guy. But although he

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<v Speaker 3>worked tirelessly to catalog them all, Monroe didn't bag all

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<v Speaker 3>the Monroes himself. He actually sadly died of pneumonia in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineteen with only three mountains left on his climbing list.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just such a bummer.

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<v Speaker 3>That is really tragic, I know, and it means that

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't qualify as a completer. That's the official term

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<v Speaker 3>for people who reach the top of every single Monroe,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a lot like that is a lot of climbing,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of walking, and so doing so gains you

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<v Speaker 3>membership into the Monroe Society, which says there are just

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<v Speaker 3>over seventy six hundred registered completers. And I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>think that Sir Hugh would be especially proud of Jamie Errens,

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<v Speaker 3>who holds the fastest record from Monroe, completing in a

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<v Speaker 3>single self propelled round, meaning she didn't use any form

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<v Speaker 3>of motorized transportation. She bagged the whole list in thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one days, ten hours, and twenty seven minutes, traveling on foot,

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<v Speaker 3>by bike, and by sea kayak to reach them all. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>out of the I can match Jamie's record or even

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<v Speaker 3>come closed. But one of these days I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Scotland and put at least one Monroe in

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<v Speaker 3>my back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to overdo it one. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>that's impressive enough. Yeah, you gotta do it for Sir Hugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Also, that's incredible. Jja's that really sunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been to Scotland before?

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<v Speaker 1>I have not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely on the list of places I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get to and you know the coming years, how about you.

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<v Speaker 2>We went with my family. My dad organized a trip,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, my mom does most of organizing, and

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<v Speaker 2>so this was a very poorly organized trip and we

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<v Speaker 2>went to a farmhouse and there are all these generations

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<v Speaker 2>of family and we basically saw none of Scotland. No

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<v Speaker 2>one could get coordinated and everyone wanted to do their

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<v Speaker 2>own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's but a nice farmhouse, I hope, so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like the land was beautiful. Everyone was so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to go back to Scotland, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>been once. I haven't really seen it, so okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>back to this. In nineteen eighty four, a Scottish paleontologist

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<v Speaker 2>named stan Wood made a remarkable discovery in this old

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<v Speaker 2>limestone quarry and this is in West Lothian. Would by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, it wasn't a trained scientist. He actually never

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<v Speaker 2>finished a school and worked at a shipyard and then for

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<v Speaker 2>an insurance company. But he became this like really respected

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<v Speaker 2>diy fossil collector and in fact he eventually amasked such

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<v Speaker 2>impressive finds that the Royal Museum in Scotland began buying

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<v Speaker 2>them from him, all of which led to this faithful

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<v Speaker 2>day in the quarry would actually uncovered the fossil that

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<v Speaker 2>would turn out to be the oldest known tetrapod, which,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't know what a tetrapod is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a class of animals that emerge from the water and

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<v Speaker 2>involved into familiar things like you know, mammals or amphibians.

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<v Speaker 2>And the creature he discovered was about like seven inches long.

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<v Speaker 2>It had four stumpy legs and a lizard like tail,

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<v Speaker 2>so he nicknamed it Lizzie the Lizard, even though scientists

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<v Speaker 2>have since pointed out it's a not really lizard, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact that they don't really know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>The best guest seems to be some kind of ancient

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<v Speaker 2>relative of the salamander. But even though everyone referred to

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzie as she, we also don't know whether the critter

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<v Speaker 2>was a female.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny how you can take a fossil which

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<v Speaker 3>is really just a rock, right, and the minute you

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<v Speaker 3>give it a name, you start to think of it

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<v Speaker 3>as this cute creature.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It just always amuses me. But but anyway, how old

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<v Speaker 3>is Lizzi?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, based on the ages of the rocks in which

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<v Speaker 2>she was found, everyone's best guess was that Lizzie was

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<v Speaker 2>around three hundred and thirty one million years old, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty old. But last year, a University of Texas

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<v Speaker 2>PhD student and his name is Hector Garza, he decided

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<v Speaker 2>to get more specific, and so he used this technique

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<v Speaker 2>called radiometric dating, and Garza found that Lizzie is actually

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and forty six million years old, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge deal because that means she lived during Romer's Gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Roamers Gap is this mysterious gap in the fossil record

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<v Speaker 2>that runs from about three hundred and forty five to

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty million years ago, And so when

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<v Speaker 2>you home in on Lizzie's true age, it actually gives

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<v Speaker 2>scientists this better understanding of when vertebrates emerged from the

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<v Speaker 2>water and went on the land, and it also gives

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<v Speaker 2>them a clue about what might have prompted that huge change.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, my next fact is also about an animal,

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<v Speaker 3>and it may be less scientifically important, but I dare

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<v Speaker 3>say it is cuter than a fossil. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Scottish Terrier, or as it's often known.

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<v Speaker 1>The Scotti.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like Toto and the Wizard of Oz right well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually pretty close.

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<v Speaker 3>So the dog who played Toto in the old Judy

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<v Speaker 3>Garland movie was actually a Cairn Terrier. But I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>you did bring that up, because there are several terrier

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<v Speaker 3>breeds that originated in Scotland, including the Cairn, the Sky,

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<v Speaker 3>the Dandie Denmont which definitely sounds like it's in Scotland,

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<v Speaker 3>and the West Highland White, but none have captured the

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<v Speaker 3>public imagination quite like the Scotti, which has become a

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<v Speaker 3>symbol of its native country.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is the one. They call it Scottish terrier.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, that's a fair point. But although the Scotti

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<v Speaker 3>is an icon now, it's got a pretty humble origin.

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<v Speaker 3>So historians believe the breed originated with dogs brought over

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<v Speaker 3>from Europe by the early Celts, and then by the

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<v Speaker 3>fourteenth century it was common for farmers in the Scottish

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<v Speaker 3>Islands to have these short legged dogs that they used

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<v Speaker 3>to hunt rats and foxes and sort of other vermin.

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<v Speaker 3>But these folks were pretty busy with day to day survival,

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<v Speaker 3>so they didn't spend much time writing down the descriptions

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<v Speaker 3>of dogs or determining if this dog counted as a

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<v Speaker 3>different breed from that dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, all they cared about was was this

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<v Speaker 2>dog catching a rat? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it actually wasn't until the eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>that the Scottish terrier became widely known as this unique

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<v Speaker 3>type different from other terriers in Scotland. It was sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>referred to as an Aberdeen terrier, so one theory is

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<v Speaker 3>that the breed emerged from the Highlands via the city

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<v Speaker 3>of Aberdeen, which is to the east and any rate.

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<v Speaker 3>People began compiling these proper breed records in the eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds and eventually they held dog shows, which further popularized

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of distinct breeds with these desirable traits. Back then,

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<v Speaker 3>sleek hunting dogs or tiny fluffy toys were all the rage.

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<v Speaker 3>The Scotti, with its wiry code and muscular chests, just

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that appealing at that time, and that all changed

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<v Speaker 3>in the twentieth century. Scotti clubs and breeders started popping

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<v Speaker 3>up across Scotland. And across the US actually for that matter,

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<v Speaker 3>and this former farmhand became known as a wonderful family pet.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's because of their person They've been described as

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<v Speaker 3>almost human like in their intelligence and their incredible loyalty.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Scotty's were so beloved that they were actually

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<v Speaker 3>immortalized as a game piece in Monopoly. You remember this, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course? Yeah, and then of course famous owners like

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<v Speaker 3>Fdr Dwight, the Eisenhower and Humphrey Bogart.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, I know. I mean when you are next

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<v Speaker 2>to a top hat and a thimble, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you know you've made it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big deal. Like it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Well we have to take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>but when we come back, I'll tell you what it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to make a Tardan of your own. Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to a very Scottish part time genius. If

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to close your eyes and imagine a

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<v Speaker 2>kilt your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's long pleated I think made of wool, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course it's plaid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not bad, but technically you can open your eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>But technically speaking, the pattern most of US Americans call

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<v Speaker 2>plaid is tartan. In Scotland, the word plaid refers to

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of tartan fabric used as a blanket or

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<v Speaker 2>worn over the shoulder. But right now we're just talking tartan.

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<v Speaker 2>So Scottish tartan has a long storied history. In the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth century, these patterns became popular as military uniforms, and

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<v Speaker 2>many clans or families adopted signature tartans of their own.

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<v Speaker 2>But the patterns used in Scotland goes back even further.

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineteen eighties, a scrap of wool tartan fabric

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<v Speaker 2>was found in a peat bog in glen Afric, and

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<v Speaker 2>radiocarbon dating suggested it was made in the fourteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>and although it was stained by pete, the die analysis

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<v Speaker 2>showed that its true colors included green and brown stripes

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<v Speaker 2>on yellow and red backgrounds. And so I know about

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<v Speaker 2>the glen Affric tartan because I actually looked it up

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<v Speaker 2>on the Scottish Registry of Tartans, and I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>this existed before, but it's this incredible database that the

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<v Speaker 2>country is collected. It's the Official Database of Tartan Designs

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<v Speaker 2>and it was established by Parliament in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It contains thousands of searchable tartan patterns.

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<v Speaker 3>So how does this actually work? Like, can anybody register

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<v Speaker 3>a tartan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyone can, but there are three conditions. So first,

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<v Speaker 2>that has to meet the government's definition of a tartan,

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<v Speaker 2>which is quote, a design which is capable of being

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<v Speaker 2>woven consisting of two or more alternating colored stripes which

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<v Speaker 2>combine vertically and horizontally to form a repeated checkered pattern. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so it just kind of has that plaid like feel. Second,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be unique. It can't be the same

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<v Speaker 2>as any other registered tartan. And finally, there has to

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<v Speaker 2>be a clear link between the person registering the tartan

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<v Speaker 2>and the proposed tartan name. Right, So anyone can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of people have, and even corporations, schools, nonprofits have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten into this game. I've spent maybe too much time

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<v Speaker 2>browsing the register, but I found that there are official

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<v Speaker 2>tartans for the University of Delaware, the Canadian Police College,

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<v Speaker 2>British Airways, Hello Kitty, the New York Jets, and my favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>a tartan created by an Ohio man to raise money

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<v Speaker 2>for cats with cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're curious, that pattern is ten black and blue

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<v Speaker 2>to mimic the coat and eyes of his late companion JD.

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<v Speaker 2>The Siamese cat.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's kind of sweet. But actually, now that you

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<v Speaker 3>say this, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely I want a part time genius tartan.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what we would do with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just seems like such an amazing thing to have.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just in fact, I think I need two

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean if Hello Kitty got one, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we should.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a fair point, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>My next fact involves another symbol of Scotland, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>no registry for this one. That's because it's a mythical creature.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is, of course the unicorn.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I noticed that when I was doing my research.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a unicorn on the Scottish coat of arms, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure why that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, unicorns are obviously great. We need to

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<v Speaker 3>stop for a moment just to acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>That unicorns twenty seconds of silence to just think about

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<v Speaker 2>how great they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Recognize the unicorn. But also it has to do with history.

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<v Speaker 3>So in Celtic mythology, unicorns symbolized strength, purity and of

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<v Speaker 3>course innocence, and in art and in legends, unicorns are

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<v Speaker 3>depicted as independent and difficult to capture, and that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>why in the twelfth century, King William the First added

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<v Speaker 3>a unicorn to the Scottish Royal coat of arms. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as the years rolled on, unicorn legends grew in the

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<v Speaker 3>Middle Ages, people believe that only a king could capture one.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's no surprise that in the early fourteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>Scotland's King James the Second kept the unicorn symbolism going

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<v Speaker 3>and from then on the Scottish throne and the unicorns

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<v Speaker 3>were inextricably linked. Now the country's next kings, these were

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<v Speaker 3>James's three, four and five super original. They went unicorn crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>putting the reachers on coins, seals, other emblems, and eventually

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<v Speaker 3>the Scottish Royal coat of arms included a shield supported

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<v Speaker 3>by not one, but two unicorns who were draped in

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<v Speaker 3>gold chains at least until the Union of Crowns in

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen oh three. That's when King James the sixth became

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<v Speaker 3>the King of England and Ireland as well as Scotland,

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<v Speaker 3>and at that time one of the unicorns was replaced

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<v Speaker 3>by a lion to represent England, of course, so today

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<v Speaker 3>you'll find unicorn imagery all over Scotland, and every April ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>Scott's along with the rest of the world, celebrate a

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<v Speaker 3>National Unicorn Day, which is coming up soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny. If I was looking for a unicorn or

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<v Speaker 2>a lion, I feel like the last two places I

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<v Speaker 2>would go are Scotland, and that's probably fair. So while

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the subject of sty wait, I got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask you, where where do you think you would go

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<v Speaker 1>to look for a unicorn? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel I think maybe there are parts of Scott's

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<v Speaker 2>got than like the Islis Sky or something that you

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<v Speaker 2>might go to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where unicorn's natural habitats should be, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure of Scotland's fair. So while we're on

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<v Speaker 2>the subject of Scottish heritage, let's turn our attention to language.

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<v Speaker 2>After English, the most widely spoken language in Scotland is Scots.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, across the UK more people speak Scots than

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<v Speaker 2>Welsh or Gaelic. You may know some yourself, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever called a small child a we baarn, that's Scots.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you've ever sung all leanth sign that is

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<v Speaker 2>also Scots.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have sung all lanth sign, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>never thought about what those words actually mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, You learned something like this as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You just kind of go along with it and you

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<v Speaker 3>just keep saying and don't really think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you just like mumble along to the lyrics

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<v Speaker 2>as other people are singing it on New exactly. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>it's Scott's for the good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it even sounds like old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the old and the old, right. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one challenge. The Scots language is actually face because

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<v Speaker 2>modern Scots share some similarity and overlap with English, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people even in Scotland don't recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>it is a language. It's often referred to as a

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<v Speaker 2>dialect of English, and in a twenty ten survey of

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish adults, sixty four percent of the people agreed with

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<v Speaker 2>the statement I don't really think scots is a language,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more of a way of speaking. And while most

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<v Speaker 2>respondents felt Scott's was an important part of national identity,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six percent of people equated it with slang, saying

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound nice or proper. Now. I actually read

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<v Speaker 2>a study from twenty twenty two that looked at perceptions

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<v Speaker 2>of language, and it concluded that people are more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to consider a language legitimate if it's unrelated to other languages,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's written, and if it's spoken widely, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to in a limited geographic area. You know, Scotts only

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<v Speaker 2>passes one of those tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so interesting and also admittedly kind of sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I mean it's funny, right, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, there's so many similarities between like

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<v Speaker 2>French and Italian, or Spanish and Portuguese. Right, there are

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<v Speaker 2>plenty words that are mutually intelligible, but no one would

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that they aren't distinct languages.

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<v Speaker 1>So their efforts to encourage the use of Scott's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are. It's part of Scotland's national curriculum and

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifteen, the Scottish government released a Scots Language

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<v Speaker 2>Policy in which it pledged to promote the use of Scots.

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<v Speaker 2>The Scottish Book Trust has also done a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>support Scott's language, education and literature, and speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a growing number of modern Scottish authors writing in Scots.

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<v Speaker 2>That includes Irvine Welsh, who you might remember from Trainspotting,

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<v Speaker 2>but also James Kellman, Emma Gray, Alan Bassett and a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, I was rapidly trying to look up how

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<v Speaker 3>to say that's great news in Scots and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>quite get there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just say that's great news.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure everyone i'll understand.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So for my last fact, I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>about the googa hunters of Nests.

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<v Speaker 2>First year bagn Monrose and now you're hunting gougas.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the best. This has been my favorite. This

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<v Speaker 3>is fantastic. Now I'm not hunting googas. In fact, no

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<v Speaker 3>one does, except for ten men from Ness. It's this

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<v Speaker 3>remote community and the northernmost tip of the Isle of

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis in the Outer Hebrides. Now, in recent years the

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<v Speaker 3>population of nests has dwindled to about thirteen hundred as

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<v Speaker 3>young people leave to find jobs elsewhere. Now, meanwhile, some

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<v Speaker 3>urban newcomers have moved in looking for a less hectic lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>That means the social fabric is changing pretty quickly and

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<v Speaker 3>locals are trying to preserve their traditions. Now, the most

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<v Speaker 3>famous tradition in Ness.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the annual Googa hunting.

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<v Speaker 3>Googa is a Gaelic word referring to a juvenile seabird

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<v Speaker 3>called a ganet. In every August, ten men from Nests

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<v Speaker 3>sail a rough stretch of the Northern Atlantic to a

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<v Speaker 3>tiny uninhabited island. There they haul their gear up steep

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<v Speaker 3>cliffs and set up camp and these ancient stone huts.

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<v Speaker 3>And no one knows for sure how old these huts are,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Ness men have hunted google on this island

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<v Speaker 3>since the fifteen hundreds and maybe even earlier than that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't realize it was still legal to

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<v Speaker 2>hunt these sort of like wild sea birds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually not, but in this case, UK law makes

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<v Speaker 3>an exception for the googa hunt because of its cultural

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<v Speaker 3>significance here. And you know, the hunt hasn't changed much

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<v Speaker 3>over the years. The men don't use guns or traps. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>they use these long poles to grab the googas by

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<v Speaker 3>the necks, and then they use rocks to deliver a

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<v Speaker 3>blow to the head, killing the birds almost instantly. Now

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<v Speaker 3>the carcasses are cleaned, they're salted, they're stacked along these

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<v Speaker 3>cliffs until it's time to sail back, and so when

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<v Speaker 3>the hunters arrive home, they're greeted at the docks by

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<v Speaker 3>friends and family. They're all eager to claim their share

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<v Speaker 3>of the spoils. Googa is actually a local delicacy, boiled

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<v Speaker 3>and then served with potatoes and a glass of milk. It's,

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<v Speaker 3>of course in acquired taste, and it sounds sort of

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<v Speaker 3>weird to think about all this combination here, but one

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<v Speaker 3>report I read described it as a cross between rotten

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<v Speaker 3>leather and fishy beef.

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<v Speaker 1>So once you hear that, you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all in on this, but definitely totally, But fans

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<v Speaker 3>say it's closer to to like salted mackerel.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way.

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<v Speaker 3>The days of google feast on nests maybe coming to

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<v Speaker 3>a close. So after an outbreak of avian flu, the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two hunt was canceled, and last year Scotland's

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<v Speaker 3>Conservation Agency reduced the harvest from two thousand birds to

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred. But the biggest threat is actually political. Opponents

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<v Speaker 3>of the hunt say it's cruel and barbaric, and a

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<v Speaker 3>petition calling for its end was sent to Parliament with

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<v Speaker 3>eighty five thousand signatures, So a lot of people behind this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's always that tension right between tradition

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<v Speaker 2>and what feels barbaric, like killing birds with rocks feels

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<v Speaker 2>a little awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that's true. But you know, as supporters have

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, the reality of factory farm poultry isn't great either, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and things like feazen and partridge shooting have been popular

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<v Speaker 3>past times for the UK's upper class for century. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a real concern, as is the matter of conservation.

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<v Speaker 2>So where does this stand today?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as of this recording, this is still TBD. The

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<v Speaker 3>petition remains open but won't be considered until after the

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<v Speaker 3>Scottish Parliament election in May.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm curious to see what happens. Well, it is

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<v Speaker 2>time for our final fact well, and I thought we'd

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<v Speaker 2>kick it off with some music, So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have you take a listen here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm standing on a Scottish more, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with the wind and my hair, you know, pretending I

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<v Speaker 3>have hair this wind in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I can remember what that feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you should not, because what you just heard

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<v Speaker 2>was a clip from a Slovak folklore fest. Well the

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<v Speaker 2>instrument was a guide or Slovak bagpipe.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you wait until the end of this episode

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me that bagpipes aren't Scottish.

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<v Speaker 2>We always save the most surprising for last, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's true. Bagpipes are a truly global instrument. You'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>them across Europe, North Africa, parts of Asia, the Balkans,

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<v Speaker 2>even the Middle East. It is hard to pinpoint exactly

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<v Speaker 2>when and where they were invented, but the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>attaching a bag or a reservoir of air to a

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<v Speaker 2>set of pipes goes back to ancient times. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>archaeologists in Turkey found a Bronze Age carving of what

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<v Speaker 2>appears to be an early bagpipe. The ancient Egyptians, Greeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and Romans had bagpipes as well, and as the Roman

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<v Speaker 2>Empire expanded, bagpipes followed, which is how they came to Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Now along the way the instrument evolved. They added drones,

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<v Speaker 2>which are those pipes at the top that hold a

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<v Speaker 2>single tone, and also chants, which allow pipers to play

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<v Speaker 2>melodies by opening our closing holes. The first confirmed reference

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<v Speaker 2>to Scottish bagpipes, however, dates back to thirteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is from an account of a clan battle

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<v Speaker 2>which mentions the presence of war pipes. And for the

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<v Speaker 2>next several centuries, bagpipes played a huge role in Scottish warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not the easiest instrument to march into battle with,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are definitely loud, so they are ideal for

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<v Speaker 2>signaling troops forward, raising morale and frankly intimidating opponents. By

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<v Speaker 2>the late sixteenth centuries, Scotland had created the bagpipe most

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<v Speaker 2>of us know today the Great Highland bagpipe. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>two tenor drones, one bass drone and a chanter. Great

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<v Speaker 2>Highland pipers actually accompany British troops on the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>of World War One and World War Two? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know that?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa Can you imagine just like standing there in a

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<v Speaker 3>trench playing a bagpipe while these bullets are flying all

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<v Speaker 3>around you so strong sometimes like the parts of war,

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<v Speaker 3>like this are just so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>It is insane to imagine. And it's actually estimated that

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<v Speaker 2>about one thousand pipers died in World War One, and

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<v Speaker 2>part way through World War I to the frontline, piping

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<v Speaker 2>was banned to reduce these fatalities. But there's actually a

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<v Speaker 2>famous story about one exception. So during D Day, a

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish commander named Simon Fraser asked his piper, Bill Millen,

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<v Speaker 2>to play as the troops charged onto the beach, and

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<v Speaker 2>Millan pointed out that the War Office had forbade this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, to which Fraser replied, that's the English

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<v Speaker 2>War Office. You and I are both Scottish and that

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<v Speaker 2>does not apply. So Millan marched along the beach playing

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<v Speaker 2>his pipes under a hail of German fire, and both

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<v Speaker 2>he and Fraser lived to tell the tale. Is that incredible?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that definitely is an incredible story. And for that, Mango,

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<v Speaker 3>and for all the time you spent digging through the

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<v Speaker 3>official Tartan register, I decided at that moment, right then,

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<v Speaker 3>right here, you deserve today's trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I will take it. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>knew this, but on my tennis team in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>one of our best players used to play the bagpipes

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<v Speaker 2>and would play them during practice and warm ups to

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<v Speaker 2>annoy other teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's actually pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those one of those instruments that sounds amazing

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<v Speaker 3>from like a football field.

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<v Speaker 1>The way and you get a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Closer, You're like, that's a little that's a little close.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do have to say I'm a little disappointed

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't heard a real Scottish bagpipe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had a feeling you might say that,

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<v Speaker 2>so I came prepared. Here you go. That is the

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo and Annual performance held outside Edinburgh Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>What a great way to close out the episode. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe one day we can go see it in person

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<v Speaker 3>wearing the Part Time Genius tartan.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love that. But before we go, remember to follow

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. That's Hi, Geniuses at gmail dot com. We

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<v Speaker 2>always love hearing from you. Now. We'll be back with

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<v Speaker 2>another new episode next week. But in the meantime from Will, Dylan, Gabe, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>and myself. Thank you so much for listening. Part Time

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<v Speaker 2>Genius is a production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. It is

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<v Speaker 2>hosted by my good pal Will Pearson, who I've known

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<v Speaker 2>for almost three decades now. That is insane to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the other co host, Mangeshatikular aka Mango. Our producer

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<v Speaker 2>going to fix that in post. Our writer is Gabe Lucyer,

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